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Welcome to another episode of the Disorganized Productions Podcast, where we explore the depths of human potential and the mysteries of the universe. In this episode, I, your host Rob, am joined by Nick from the Occult Rejects. We delve into the fascinating world of occultism, discussing Nick's journey from being a member of the Ordo Templi Orientis to becoming a prominent figure in the Occult Rejects collective. Nick shares his experiences with magic, meditation, and the power of the mind, offering insights into how these practices can unlock hidden potentials within us.

This is what Chat GPT has to say about Nick:
Nick from Occult Rejects is a prominent figure within the Occult Rejects collective, a group known for their blend of occult themes with personal and artistic expression. While detailed public information about him may be sparse, Nick’s involvement in this collective centers around his creative contributions, typically in music, art, and perhaps other forms of expression tied to occultism.
The Occult Rejects is often associated with underground or niche communities that blend occult, esoteric, and countercultural elements. Members of the group may explore topics such as mysticism, philosophy, and spirituality in their work, often challenging mainstream beliefs and providing alternative perspectives.

We also touch on the intriguing connections between occultism and historical events, such as the ties between Nazis and occult practices, and how these themes are reflected in popular culture, like video games and movies. Nick provides a unique perspective on how symbols and rituals are used in the occult, and how they can be misinterpreted or misused in modern times.

Throughout the episode, we discuss the importance of meditation and self-discovery, and how these practices can lead to profound personal transformations. Nick emphasizes the significance of understanding the symbolism in our world and how it can guide us to a deeper understanding of ourselves and the universe.

Join us as we explore these captivating topics and more, offering a thought-provoking journey into the realms of the unknown.

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Skip me bridge like squirrel, baby.  

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What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect for the lore.  

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Welcome fellow human to the disorganized   productions podcast.   The show that fuels your spirit,   ignites your potential,   and helps you become the best version of yourself.   I'm your host, Rob,   and each episode,   we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you, tap into your limitless potential,   and conquer life's challenges.   Hello fellow human, and welcome to another episode of Disorganized   Productions.   If you wanna contact me,   please shoot me an email at [email protected].   Same goes if you want to check out all the stuff that I'm doing. Check my link tree, which is link tree   slash disorganized   productions,   and please support my brothers in crime from   the   Unchained Brain podcast,   the Rat Pill Cartel,   the Life is a Dream, Death is Awakening,   and the Greyhorn Pagan Podcast.  

Without any further ado,   please enjoy this show.   Ladies and gentlemen, fellow human,   special warm welcome   to Nick from the Occult Rejects   coming from North Carolina. And I just   asked   Chad GPT,   tell me something about Nick. And of course, afterwards, we can ask Nick to introduce himself a little bit. But this is what Chad GPT said about Nick. Nick from Occult Rejects is a prominent figure   within the Occult Rejects collective.   A group known for their blend of Occult Teams   with personal and artistic expression.   While detailed public information about him may be sparse,   Nick's involvement   in this collective   centers around his creative contributions,   typically,   typically in music,   art, and perhaps other forms of expression tied to occultism.  

The occult   rejects is often associated   with underground or niche communities that blend occult,   esoteric   and cultural elements.   Members of the group may explore topics such as mysticism,   philosophy, and spirituality   in their work,   often challenging mainstream beliefs and providing   alternative   perspectives.   Welcome, Nick.  

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What's going on, man? I have to say I really love that intro. That was impressive.   We're gonna have chat I gotta I gotta have I gotta date that and put it in my, my podcast description.  

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I'm gonna send it to you. Right?   So, yeah, I was gonna copy paste that. And and   it also asked me that that's a weird part of,   AI nowadays. Is there something specific you want to know about Nick or from the, or cold rejects that I can help you clarify?   Like, is there more, Nick?   Help the audience.   Is there more?  

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I could give a little bit of introduction, I guess, about Please do. Yeah. Yeah.   This is something I mean, again, I guess I'm mentioning it right away, but it was something that I kind of focused on a lot when I first came out. But, like, I am an ex member of the Oro Temple Orientis.   I was in there for about, you know, 5 or 6 years and and left. I wasn't happy with the place.   But, like, right now,   I would still consider myself a magician and an occultist. I,   you know, I don't do rituals and all that stuff anymore, but I still study the occult, and I study you know, I I meditate and do all that stuff, and I, in some sense, I still mess with magic. I'm just not doing ritual work. Mhmm. But I still have a I have a podcast.   My experience with the OTO, and I just, you know, I kinda came out when everything was getting crazy with, you know, the COVID and just, you know, political stuff. Right. And,   I left around then, and   I just saw a lot of, like, in my opinion, magic being used on the people   at that time that I was like, I'm gonna start a podcast and try to explain, you know, magic and occultism,   you know, from my experience. And,   yeah. So I started that. I had the NY Patriot show because I originally did live in New York, and I had the occult rejects.  

And, you know, I did have a cohost for about the 1st year and a half on the occult rejects, and then, you know, stings things just happen between people. Right. So we split up, and then, eventually, I started,   you know, just getting doing a lot of guest stuff or doing topics with guests. And   probably within about 2 years after that, I found myself with about 8 to 10 people that come on the show regularly that are all we're all the occult rejects. It's not just me anymore. Right. There's a list of people. And whenever we do an episode, we probably do anywhere from 4 to 7 people at a time. So, you know, everybody and everybody has their own like, you know, my theme might be big into Kabbalah and ceremonial magic. I might have somebody who's big into Greek stuff, somebody's real big into Buddhism. Uh-huh. I have somebody on my show that's a Catholic. I mean, but she's into occultism. I I would consider her more of a gnostic, but, you know, her she can look at it and add her Catholicism, you know, I have views to it. I have somebody else who's   is on the show. I mean, they understand occultism and and spirituality and all that stuff, but, like, their main thing is is science. Mhmm. To try to show how physiology and science, I actually think, is some of the deepest secrets in the occult. So, I mean, we got people   that just their their specialties are all over the place, and then we come together and try to show everybody's,   angle from it. Right.  



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So what's your favorite, topic when it comes to occultism?  

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Yeah. One of my favorite ones that I just if you were to go and look at my shows, you're probably like, damn. He's covered a lot on the Mormons and Nazis. I do Oh, cool. I do find them interesting because it's just like there's always just something new about them or something new you can find. You know? It's just the Mormons and Nazis. They're always up to something.   But, I mean, honestly, when it comes down to it, it's probably me trying to explain, like, a cult symbolism with   the eyeballs and the Uh-huh.   And occult symbolism with,   you know, the experience of death and stuff when it comes to actual magic. Right. That might seem a little out there, but, you know. Dude, you just brought it up because  

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I had a highly love I had on about Ormism. Right? And she's she's cool. She's so cool. Shout out to a highly love.  

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But also show not too long ago. Sorry? Yeah. Me? I was on her show not too long ago, actually. Right. She has a cool show. Right? See,  

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damn. I lost my train of thought with her   Unfiltered eyes. Unfiltered eyes. Exactly.   But I also listened to one of the last episodes. Now you're gonna freak fucking out. I know that's for sure, but it was a great show.   El Borialis   did a thing about Nazism   and deal cult.   What's Sam Tripoli?   Snake told me, don't don't don't call that name. I don't know. No. That's funny that he even knows that I've  

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listen. I've, yeah, I've had issues with Sam in the past. It is what it is. You know what I mean? You know what's funny is that last night, I   I saw somebody on Twitter. Somebody retweeted it that I know. Somebody was actually shooting at Sam and saying that he has a cult symbolism in his logo. The guy was completely off. That's just my opinion. I do think the guy was completely off.   I think he has done that, but that not with that logo. And I actually, like, I posted up my own occult logo, and I said, this is how you do it, Sam.   He's probably like, what the fuck is going on here? I don't understand this. Right. Yeah. I just mind fucked him because he's like, he's not making fun of me, but he's saying he's the occultist. Like, that probably screwed him all.  



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Right. Right. And the thing is,   I I I really like the show, but   I never met the guy. So I so I Yeah. And so it's all He's the understand.   Right. Right. So so,   you know, I don't know. Let's I mean, I I really honestly have no problem with the guy. He's he's just with No. The no. And not not with the guy, but I I have sometimes a problem well, not a problem with the show, but I I I hate it when the advertising comes around. And we just talked briefly before we went on the show. You're now, for 4 years, podcasting.   You got more sick 600 episodes in. It costs you a lot of time, energy, and also some money to get shows on. Right? To get it in the ether, to get people to listen to it. But we don't make any   dime out of it. Not that we wanna make 1,000,000 of dollars or whatever the fuck, but it would be cool if we we should pay the little bit, you know, to keep the gas going and stuff like that. Yeah. No. I totally agree. I totally agree.  

And and just before we hopped on the show, I showed you that I'm at Yos' place. Yos has been in several podcasts.   Shout out to Yos because I'm in his place because I'm homeless, basically.  

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Oh, wow. Okay. And I don't know the podcaster that's kind of going through the same situation. So you're not alone. He,  

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he he knows a lot. So he was a few cults too.   He Yeah. Yeah. You were saying that earlier. Deep dive deep dives into the Hollywood, occultism and vampirism about Hollywood.   He was on a few podcasts like, David Wave, we talked about it before. Ben from the Unchained Brain,   Mad Max.   So he's been tossed around like a little slut.  

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Well, it happened to me when I first came out, actually. Right? I feel like I was yeah. I was getting tossed around like a homecoming chick or some shit. Right. But you push chess on his.  

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But it is fascinating.   Like,   do you know the game probably, you know the game Wolfenstein?   Yeah. It's old. Yes. But that's all criticism in Nazism. Right? Oh, for sure. Yeah. Clark. And I think it's really it's   really fascinating if you see nowadays   this collective about people that are saying like Al Borale is on the show from Sam Tripoli about the ties of the Nazis   and occultism. And they will still rule the world, go into Argentina, all that stuff. But when you play the game,   return to Karl Wolfenstein, it's about occultism in the Nazis that they're gonna dig   some some graves up and and make an Uber mansion, stuff like that.  

It really fascinates me.   Why would they make a game   that's so close maybe to reality?  

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Well, people would probably never guess it's reality. That's what they'll think too.   Right. I think, yeah, I think a lot of times they actually show us the truth and fantasy or stories,   so then we would never even believe that's even possible.   It gives the skewed look whenever we look at something. I mean, they even do that with occultism, I think. A lot of times they take occult ideas and archetypes,   and they kinda screw around with it and make it seem like something else, so you get confused.  

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Yeah. But it's also like we told you so.  

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And I was talking to Bill Nevin the other day.  

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I was I was hopping on a podcast, and I was thinking like,   maybe it's not like, oh, we told you so. But maybe it's like, watch out.   Because you can prepare   yourself for what's coming.   So not in a negative way, but in a positive way. Mhmm.   And a lot of shit is coming down, man. Damn.   We're   2025   right now.  

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Oh, I think that's gonna get crazy.  

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What's crazy?  

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It's gonna get crazy the next few years, I think, in my opinion.  

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Yeah. We got UFOs. We're flying around.   There was something going on in LA with these, Nephilim, stuff like that.   What do you what what is your thought? Is is it all staged, or is it maybe there's another realm that gonna   bleep through our reality and, we have to face them?   What's your thought in it? I do think well,  

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I think AI is gonna become even more of an issue. I think precrime is gonna become a huge thing.   But when it I do I I in my opinion, I do think   it will be something that's staged that's false. I don't know if it's gonna be aliens or if it's gonna be an assassination of somebody,   but I do think there'll be something that   will be staged and not real to try to get people   under, like, one world government.   At least I'm like like,   I, again, I probably   would prefer a republican   president over a democrat,   but I I this is my opinion. I I don't think we're gonna go in in a better direction with Trump. Like, I think, actual I think it's gonna get fucking nuts.   Right. Same bird, different wing? Yeah. I mean, again, I I'm not saying this because, like, believe me, I'm not a democrat. Fuck from it. You know? I am not a libtard at all. But just there are certain things. And, again, I voted for Trump the first time. This time, I didn't even vote because I think it's fucking pointless. Right. Right. All the but just the stuff with his agenda   and and the people that he's working with is a little nerving to me. Right. Especially with Peter Thiel being being involved, and Peter Thiel's funding so many people around him accepting him. It's just weird. You know, he's funded Hulk Hogan. And you had Hulk Hogan out there talking about him.  

You know, the reason the reason Hulk Hogan even ever had a lawsuit against Gawker is because Peter Thiel funded it. It's, like, just so weird. It's like, why is Peter people that Peter Thiel's given money to all around Trump?   Right? And Peter Thiel's big thing is precrime, and Sean Trump, one time, people I don't think caught it when they were talking about gun laws   and talking about you know, you have Biden talking about, oh, I'm gonna do all this shit that nobody wants to hear. You know, limiting guns. And is like, well, I'm not gonna do that. I'll be more into precrime. And then just, you know, nobody said it. Like, what what the fuck do you mean by precrime? Peter Thiel is huge into precrime.   Just connecting the dots. Right? Yeah. I guess it's just, you know,   it's boring. Did you ever see Handmaid's Tale?  

No. No. I have a feeling if you just get we might get to that that extent where it's like we're gonna have another pandemic that I believe. We're gonna have another pandemic, and I think between pandemics   and illegal aliens, they're gonna have a reason for us to accept the chip.  

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Oh, for sure.  

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So so to know that you're a you're a legal alien with the chip, and I hope you're okay with your vaccinations with the chip. Well, the the the really funny stuff is I asked Chetcheapiti  

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not long ago before I hopped on a plane to Peru.   I don't know what the question was, but it said,   like, oh, it should be no problem   with flying to Peru, but you have to be aware of COVID registrations.   Like, wait a minute, that's been 2 years or 3 years   ago. Why would you pop up that kind of stuff now? I think they're gonna So something is going on. Right? Something is going on. I've even noticed YouTube censoring me more with COVID stuff recently. You're still on YouTube?  

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Yeah. Fuck on wood. It's my 4th account.   But it's less this one's lasted 2 years.   So yeah. But the only time I just got this my first strike   last Thursday night   because somebody brought up,   it wasn't even so much COVID. We were bringing up SV 40 or SV, whatever that is. It's Uh-huh. This thing that causes cancer,   it was a thing that they used to make the, polio vaccine that caused cancer, and it's used in COVID 19. So, like, we already knew it caused cancer.   Why did you use it again in this one? We didn't necessarily talk about COVID 19 vaccination, but we talked about the problem. And it and it fucking hit us with a strike.   And it was, like, for 2 seconds because it wasn't even on topic. It was just, like, something that somehow we brought up for a few seconds and then went back into topic that she it got me. Getting this break. I was like, what the fuck?  



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I had 40 episodes uploaded on fucking YouTube. And I love YouTube because   when I upload an episode, within one day,   there will be a transcript.   When I'm gonna put that transcript within 5 or 6 minutes, I can   edit it with all the subtitles that I want. So I would really like to put every subtitle in. So Chinese,   Spanish, whatever the fuck. You know why? Because my show will be   broadcast all around the world, and people know what we were talking about even if they do not speak our language. Right?   But,   I had within   I think it was it it 2 episodes.  

So I raped the community guidelines. Oh my god, Rob. Oh, how dare you. So I got 2 strikes, and I'm very, very careful now that they're not gonna put the AI with some new trendy words on every episode because, otherwise, it will be strike free, and I will be out. So all the money and all the time and all the energy will be gone.   That's my point of view. So that's why I went to Rumble. Rumble is a great platform.   It's not yet   censored.   But the thing is, it's not like that fancy as YouTube with all the transcriptions and all the, the language,   subtitles and stuff like that so that, you know,   you should,   yeah, you you should find that sweet spot of balance   on both of them.  

But I'll  

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never sense on my show Due to YouTube, I'll just not drop the show on there.   You know what I'm saying? Live streams, I can't help that sometimes, whatever comes up. But, yeah, I could always take it down right afterwards, but   yeah. I mean, YouTube is   listen. I know a lot of people hate it. For me, it has actually   grown exponentially for me in, like, the last year, and I've gotten a lot you know, thousands of new listeners from it. Wow. And so, I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean no. I'm not bragging, but, like, you know, for for what I do, getting 5,000 views a video, I mean, that's kind of impressive for me. And that's just on video. My audio is, you know, whatever. The DV actually higher than that. I'm not trying to brag. But for me, like, that's impressive. Like, for me to make that type of reach on YouTube,   considering it's a platform that I think is hard to actually find decent shit, no offense.  

Like, I would do wanna   I guess I just wanna stay on there as some sort of voice of opposition. Some people have Why is it your 4th account? Why do you give a shit? You're not even monetized.   Giving up to me means they won. Like Right.   It just I know it sounds silly, but it's like and it and it I have reached  

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people. You know what I'm saying? It's made a difference in in new people hearing. Right. The funny thing is I got, like, 40 videos uploaded on YouTube. I got 116   subscribers.   Wow.   How? Now comes the now comes the the really the really fascinating part.   I had a a show with David Wise. That that man attracts a lot of people. You know? It was a really cool show. He posted on his flat earth stuff. You know? So you can see every single video of every podcast that he'd been ever on. Yeah. He did that with me.   Yeah. He's cool. Right? So he had, like, every video before I hopped on a podcast with him is, like, 50,000   k views. No.  

60,000,   30,000.   Mine, 5,000.   Afterwards   so after after he did my show, he was on several other shows, also, like, unknown.   40,000 fuse. 20,000 fuse. What's   what's that? Is that is that because I'm a Dutch guy and nobody knows how to speak English or what? I don't know what's happening. I'm like, bro. I'm used to I will say, though, when I was on he did that for me.  

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I'm just saying it didn't actually make much of a difference for my son.   This is my experience too. Because I was all excited because he didn't even show me. He's like, look. I dropped it on my own site because I think he drops everybody that Right. And I go, that's awesome. Fuck yeah. I was like, oh, maybe I'll get you know? And I was like, I didn't see much of a spike.   Right.  

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So   so so what what's it gonna be, Nick? Is it the content? Is it the topics we we're gonna talk about? Is it is it the the hashtags?   What makes a show a great show to to look at or to listen to for the audience for from your perspective?  

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I think for me, and I I it just seems to have gone hand in hand. I don't know if that's what did it, but   probably I, honestly, I haven't really listened to a podcast. Maybe I might listen to certain things on YouTube because it's a topic that I I thought of looking into and then try to find something on it. Right. I'm not big in listening to podcasts, believe it or not, probably in the last 2 years because, one, I don't want to get influenced on topics.   From my opinion, once my views started going up, especially on YouTube, it was because it was really I mean, maybe not everything's original,   but it was kind of original content. Uh-huh. Like, it's not particular topics you're seeing everybody else do. Right. You know? And I and I just try to also   do as best as I can with the information that I can in the time that we do the show. But for me, I think, like, kind of   there's a problem, I think. I don't know how it's happening or why it's happening, or maybe it's just human nature. But I think in the the   the community,   conspiracy and even the occult, I'll put them both together,   seem to regurgitate a lot of the same shit.  

We all have the same guests on. Like, there's a certain part of like, you'll see certain areas. There's different communities within the conspiracy community. Like, you'll see, like, certain patches of you know, sometimes in those groups, you'll see them revolve the same few guests, and it's just like, if I listen to that one, why did I even have to listen to these other 12?   Right. And and I think that does   doing topics that you're like, I've never even heard of someone talk about this, or I've never even thought about that.   I think that stuff actually helps.  



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Yes. And our cold is something that a lot of people are diving into, especially nowadays with,   awakening or awoke. I don't know. I I hate these words, but people that want to know more about what's happening here in the world.   I saw that with with the app sort of date with Yoast.   The dark side,   dude, that was, like, 600, 700 views. That was like, woah.   A big spike. Big spike. Yeah. Because it's like, normally, they they listen, like, 30 or 40 views on my show on on on YouTube or Rumble. So that's fine. You know? I I hope to,  

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I do listen to certain topics. I think we have Yes. That we covered on purpose,   you'll probably get a lot of views. But then it's like, was that really me? Am I selling myself just for clicks?   But, I mean, I think we all know there is certain hot topics that if it catches, you know, it's it's big. But Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who who wants to do, you know,  

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specifically do stuff like that? Yes. You have to you had already,   Nathaniel Gilles on?  

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Yes. He was, was he the one that, was talking he did, like, the lane lines and stuff. Right? No. Demonology.  

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Oh, okay. Oh, god. I'm sorry. You gotta connect to him. We're gonna,   shout out to to Snake Turbanhand who arranged this So that's what we just talked about about no script. You know, you don't you don't want to be involved with too much topic about making your own sense about stuff. Right? So I was eating here with Yoast, and then all of a sudden, I saw something popping up on my phone. And just like, oh, somebody,   put on your Calendly. So I oh, that's cool. Let me see when.   Fuck. Within the how how an hour. Right?   So that's how we roll, man. That's just what we do. But I love to do that without any script.  

Although I had to ask chat chat GPT a little bit of an introduction. So who am I talking to? Right? Now I do think it's really fascinating about the occult,   especially when you wanna take it back to,   Wolfenstein.   Wolfenstein,   the game   is mentioned after,   return to castle Wolfenstein   that you are in the year 20 40 or something like that, 2050.   And imagine the Nazis won. And   now all of these topics coming out like, oh, did you saw the ties that, Hitler wasn't dying and Mengele and all these big big guys in the Nazis?  

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They went to Argentina, and here's the proof and all of that. In the game? It says that in the game too.  

[00:24:54] Unknown:

Well, not that they go to Argentina, but that they won. That the Nazis so you put the when it actually said they went to Argentina. I was like, oh, that's crazy. You probably did. Oh, good. Probably you did. And you know what? 1 of the end bosses   looks like Klaus Schwab. No kidding.   I made a video out of that on TikTok, and   it been taken down twice. So I think that's, you know?   Wow. Yes.   You said that looks like Klaus Schwab, and he took it down. Yes. I swear to let me see if I can put it up. This is so funny.   And boss,   Wolfenstein.  

Well, and there's, of course,   a lot of them.   Is it 3 d? No. This one.   Let me see.   Yeah. Dearest   little fucker.   1 of oh, no. Wait. This is the complete   how can I see? Oh,   shit.   Oh, this is bark.   I don't oh, this is all YouTube. So I I did I no. I said   leave it leave it there because otherwise   it's it's not good to listen to. But he he he really looks like, you know, with the same hat, with a little bit that that it's it's like   That's funny.   It's really weird also because they are saying, like, what if the Nazis want so you wake up as as agent Blazkowicz   in a in a new age world with the new world order. 1 fuck that.  

1 of the,   Wolfsteins,   the second or the third one is called the new world   order.   No kidding.   No kidding.  

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You know, that's the mass. You know, believe it or not, the mass that most Catholic churches use now is actually considered the new world. Like,   it's the new world mass.   What the hell, man? You see, when they take took away the Latin version,   and they put in the new world.  

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Oh my god.   But, you know, the church also it's so it's so interesting, though? When we talk about this new world order  

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what is the old one that we're even moving out of? Do you even know that one? Like, let's think about that. Do we even know the one we're in now?  

[00:27:15] Unknown:

Oh, dude. Figure out where we're going into then. Oh, dude. That brings me to to, like, okay. There is no past because that's been something that you've been through.   So there's no past. You can't grab it. Right? You can't grab the future because it's a dream. It's it's something that you can't grab. So the there's only the now.   Yes. Right? So we are living in the now world.   They pretend to have the new world order. And just like you said, what the fuck is the old world order then?  

[00:27:43] Unknown:

But I can't even take credit to that. My cohost   no. I think she said the same thing. My cohost, Teresa, happened to say that when we covered the Saint Galla mafia, which was a, masonic a bunch of Masons and, you know, shady dudes that actually infiltrated   the the Vatican and   got pope France. You know, they got the pope that's in now. Supposedly, they helped put him in there. Uh-huh. And they were talking about how they wanted to get rid of the Latin mass, and, you know, eventually, they did.   And it's just like, she had even said, like, you know, going on about how it's a new world mass. And it's like, well, do we even know the old world that you know, what's the one we're in now if we're going into a new world order?   And I had never thought of that before. And I was like, you know,   I was like, this is a pretty fucking interesting question.  

Right? I gotta give a shout out to Therese from spiritual gangsters and equal rejects for that one because I was like, fuck.   Right. But if it's I'm like, we're trying to figure out what they're trying to put us in next, but we don't even understand the prison we're in now.  

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Right. But that's the whole fucking thing. Right? So, okay, we wanna explore,   the moon. We went there once, and that's it. And we we explored everything.   We want to go to Mars.   Depends on how many mushrooms or what kind of mushrooms you take when you go there to Mars. But here's the thing. Oh, we figured out, like, 5% of the, the oceans. Okay. So fucking retards,   if you do not know 100%,   how can you tell me that it's 5%?   When you don't know what's 100%,   you can't So it's   You hear the dogs?   Dudes. Oh, I just heard it for a second. Yeah. Some dogs are outside the door talking like shit. But, you know, it's so crazy.   We spent   1,000,000 and 1,000,000,000 of dollars into some kind of worlds that we do not know,   but we don't know anything about our world.  

That's it. That's   I think if you go to to Belize,   and when you are, like,   investigating   the the flora and fauna, every single day, they they they figure out new species of flora and fauna.   That's   that's the level on the on the earth that we are. Just like, wow. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Unbelievable.   Let's go to the moon   with a landline. Hey, guys. How are you doing? You know? And if I'm,   I always always take talk to a snake when I'm gonna cross border to Germany or to Belgium,   the line's been cut off. There's no reception.   Like but how did you do that with the moon? It's only 230,000   miles away. So   that makes no  

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sense. Dude, you know I don't believe anything out there. You know the movie,  

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Iron   Sky? Yeah. That's old. That's old, but that's so   cool too because that's what when,   there's a Nazi base on the other side of the moon that we do not see.   That's what they say on there? Or I don't remember the Yeah. There's old movies about that. It's like, 3 people from the America going to the moon, and then they've been watched. They've been taken prison. 1 of them has been taken prison,   which is who is, a Thinking of an alien accident. Or not. And and even Steve Jobs comes across there and and and and dinosaurs and all that stuff. Like, that's so funny to me.   That's crazy.  

So that   what's happening on the run? There's something happened   on our way to the moon.  

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Yeah. That's that's stuff out there. I don't even that is one thing   that maybe some people don't know that I always do try to bring up that when it comes to outer space, believe it or not, the   the the model that we have that we revolve around the sun and the model that we had before that with everything revolving around us was actually given to us by occultists,   like, open occultists.  

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Oh, wow.  

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So you should really question what they're saying, really,   about what's up there. Right? Yeah. I mean, if you were to go look into these people, you will see that they practice alchemy within the weird shit in here called. It's not even hidden.   I'd be sorry.   Yeah. But The other thing, a lot of people we got telescopes from, Kepler, an occultist.   Kepler was influenced by Empedocles, was an occultist.   All these people that are that that tell us what this technology, these these telescopes, and what's out there are fucking occultists.   So you you really should start to wonder,   what are you saying? And and is it code or cipher to something else? Because Right.  

They're not gonna tell you right out in the open.  

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And No. They have to skew it. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Yeah. So I'm not denying that there isn't planets. I'm just saying, like, whatever whatever we're told, it's probably not we're not understanding it correctly.  

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So so if if you if you take that as a as example for for, you know, everything has been put it onto us on TV and media and stuff like that,   is it it that it's something that that baffles my mind   the the last couple of months. Like, everything is so fucking fake.   What's real? The only thing that's real is that I'm here right now.   And my senses tell me that there's a couch over there that's probably in my perspective, it's red. But other people would say, like, oh, no. The dead scream. And then, you know, color blind.   It's something like that. So you have a different perspective. But the thing is,   what is real? You know? And and especially if you see   how   fake everything is that you're trying to stage and to wanna, you know, put a world believe on. Like, we're going to the moon or or Kennedy. Everything that you point out, just like,   damn, it's so badly staged.  

What are they trying to tell us? Oh. What are they trying to tell us? Yeah. Some things are so, like, in my opinion, so blatantly bad.  

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Yeah.   I think it's gotten worse. Like, the the psyops are the Right.   The psyops are like the storylines. It's starting to get blatant. Or not even so much blatant like you understand what's going on, but just the facts and shit just don't even add up.   There's certain things in my opinion that, like, what they tell you is almost total contradiction about, like, what actually happens. Right.  

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But then   So so are we are we really living in a fake world?  

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Well, I think the TV is probably, like, a huge issue.  

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Yeah.   The news We don't watch TV. Don't listen to to to radio, whatever the fuck.  

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Yeah. You know, it's interesting. I think it was the 1500 to 1600. Anthony Athanasius Kircher was an occultist and a Jesuit priest. Uh-huh. He had said back then that he believes that   in the future, we'll be able to transport demons and spirits through light and crystals.   And if you think about exactly how all of this stuff works, we have crystals in our phones and our computers,   and the type of cable that we use, a optical cable   or optical Internet,   is light.   Right. Now maybe when it turns into Wi Fi, it gets changed, but, technically, at some point, what we're using or this wire that's plugged I'm plugged straight into my router. That's light with information.   Right. What Ethernet.  

So, technically, this guy was correct   because you this this this this computer screens of these phones will act make people act crazy. Right. It will make them do things like burn down buildings when it will make a white person burn down a building for a black motherfucker.   Right. That's just stupid shit it will make people do.   Right. That's it. Human life. Couldn't have been wrong. That motherfucker was on to something.  

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And everyone is carrying that black mirror.  

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It's like a monolith.   Where exactly.   And the crazy thing, it's like,   in my opinion,   magic boils down to electricity and magnetism.   Mhmm. Really wanna get crazy with. And that's exactly what your phone is. It's a huge magic magnet with electricity in it. Oh, yeah.  

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And it fucks with your mind. So that's why the demons are could possess you if you think about it or the plausible truth.  

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Using these using this technology in a sense is pretty much like black magic in my opinion. Right.  

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And just what you said about the crystals. You know, you can program crystals. Without programming crystals, you don't have   every receiver   or telephone or   TV. Everything works on crystals.   Fascinating stuff.   Have you ever encountered any   demons or or stuff from the other realms?  

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No. I don't think so. I also do think that to an extent   that there could be I'm not denying that there isn't, like, energetic things that would be considered demons, but I do think a lot of it is actually   the negative parts of our own mind   that we have to, like, kind of, like,   render or, you know, change. Right.   And   yeah. I mean, and that that they're trying to disregard. You know? No. But Yeah.  

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I think you're down to the ground guy. Like, okay. What you see is what you get.   So if you if you know,   most of the things that we see and,   and touch base on, we can   make up our own mind like that's real or not.   So even like,   I like to look at, some some poltergeist and stuff like that on on on YouTube.   There are 2 channels that I follow, Tim Morozov,   who goes in in,   the vast plain of Poland to these, witches,   to villages where were something happened. And he's recording with EMF and all that stuff, you know.   And so real shit is happening right there. I mean, it's not trickage.  

So, yes, I think exactly what you say. But I I think also that this energy could be trapped   in a situation or in this time loop.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it I think, like, I   guess I would consider that.   I  

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see   Water.   No. It's okay. My computer is here. There's the water. So that's why I'm here. Fuck. No. I thought maybe you knocked over a guitar or something.  

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No.  

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No. You play guitar?  

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Yeah. I used to back in the day. Yeah.   Back in the day. Why not now? I need to go get another one.   What kind of guitar? Thought about that because I I, yeah, I wanna start producing, like, my own music for the podcast, and a guitar would help. I could put that over some, like, beats or electronic stuff somewhere. Dude, you got my that's my concept. Don't do it.   Yes.  

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But I got some charts right there. Right?   Okay. Yeah.   This is my Black Beauty Epiphone. I can't afford it yet. The Gibson.   That's an acoustic guitar. Oh, that's so strange.   And I got a,   SG. That's an Epiphone 2, but I love that. Dude, that's such a good guitar.   And I just have them because I can't afford the real ones, because the real ones are, like, $1500   for SG.   Yeah. Well, that's true. With it, you know, Gibson. And then the Black Beauty, I think it's, like,   5, 6000.  

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Yeah. Real? Yeah. Good guitars are Oh, but   They do sound different.  

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Yes. Although I have to say, like, I got,   I got a pedal board, like some pedals. You know? I got a Wawa.   I got a Boss loop station, so that's where I make most of my tunes with. So I I go and play something, and then it's gonna loop. Loop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a cool thing to do, you know, especially if you're, like, a solo musician just like I am. You you and it's still and it has a drum computer in it. So you can tap your beat and stuff like that. So you go   just so you can jam on it. It's cool.   So and I've got,   Arturia.  

That's a mini   lap, so I can put, like, a synthesizer sound or whatever sound. Oh, really? Yes.   But the thing is, just like we said before we hopped on, we we do not monetize yet. So I would love to do that, but I work. I do podcasts.   And, you know, it's it's like 2 hours of podcast. Then you do 2 hours of editing and stuff like that. You're gonna upload it. Then I go to edit the video. I'm gonna upload it. It's gonna take another   6 hours probably. So I have to do it at night when everything is a little bit, you know,   settled down and everybody's going to sleep because otherwise, my data sucks like hell. Oh. So it's just Yeah. But because there's more people. Yeah. There's more people pulling. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Sundays, no go. Leave it at  

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night. I've even noticed it's just it's crazy. It's just turning taking my phone off the Wi Fi and turning off the TV because it runs on through the thing will actually make a difference if I'm trying to stream live sometimes.   Yeah. Deal I mean, like, I actually have a good service. I get, like, 1 gigabyte.   You know? That's that's pretty freaking That's good. Yeah. And when I go to test it, it actually reads that, believe it or not, which is surprising.   Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Normally normally, if you pay for, like, a gig, you're gonna get, like, 500.   Right? You get, like yeah. But I was like, wow. I'm actually getting the right speed. I got everything from my hot spot on my telephone.  



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So I do not have a connection at home, so I have to hot spot my telephone to I did that for a while. Dude, that's I did that for about 2 months before I moved when I'm in between moving from North New York to North Carolina.  

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There was just it was like concerts and just things that I had planned in other states. So it was like I kind of was just going from Airbnb's   for a while and then came to North Carolina.   Uh-huh. And, like, you go to these you know, I'm booking these places, and they say, like, the Wi Fi is supposed to be, like, amazing or great or there's some term that they use to make it sound better. Right. I'd be like, yo. Like, I this this fucking shit sucks, and I'd had to I'd had to hotspot my own phone   just just to be able to podcast for, like, a month and a half, 2 months. Oh, god. It sucked. But but take it back 10 years, 50 years ago.  

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You you you still know when you had to dial in.   Dude Like in War Games days, dude. Oh, dude. That that was when I was getting off of porn because it took so long to take a fucking image to download. You know? 2 MB was like, oh my god.  

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That is funny. Remember that. Yeah.  

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And But the game stuff.   Yes. But the game's also, like, if you did did, like, a normal game, you know, you had, Command and Conquer and stuff like that. All the the bleeps and the stuff. And nowadays, when you oh, I got, 10, 50 years now advanced technology into gaming.   I mean,   nowadays, they're gonna make movies out of games because the games are so fucking wow.   It's I think there's one game. It's called body   body cam or something like that.   It is really like you are moving into a real world. It's, like,   so fucking awesome. Scares the shit out of you.  

That's that's it's not not like, oh, I'm I'm I'm playing in a cartoonish   game, you know, and try and say here, but just like, oh my fuck. This is like a movie, like reality.   That's cool. It's cool. If yes. I think it's cool too. But if I would know, Nick,   10, 20 years ago that I would wear a bikini and doing games and have a Twitch account and OnlyFans, I make, like, 20, $3,000   a fucking month, I would do that. I I I I did not know that there was a money making thing.  

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I, yeah, I will say I never would have thought   what's acceptable today   in certain things ever would have fall when I was   in my teens or early twenties.  

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Dude, probably the girls I have well, not not the girls I have, probably. But, I think a lot of men are you know, when they get home and they were playing a game, like, oh, you you think a game is more important than me, and you don't give me any attention. Blah blah. These girls are now battling in a fucking bikini with OnlyFans, with Twitch,   doing their stupid fucking games that they said to their guys. Like, oh, you shouldn't play FIFA or whatever the fuck.   I'm making tons of money. What the fuck happened, man? Yeah.  

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It's it's wild. It's   it's what I'm saying. Like, this It's crazy.   Like, you yeah. You can go back, like, 20, 25 years, and if you took an image of today and said this is what was coming, people would have been like, oh my god. Like, the world must be, like, satanic.  

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Right?  

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That's, you know, what you know, whatever. But that's the way we would have viewed it back then.   Oh, 100%.   You know, like, satan took over the world. Like, how how could this be normal now or be accepted?  

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I'm still struggling with it with the idea that it should be accepted, to be honest with you.   I cut down all my   my, let's say, my outside world   communication. So I do podcast. Okay. Not not everyone is too listening to 2 guys talking on a, you know, on a podcast about some topics or whatever. But the thing is,   I don't listen to,   radio.   I can't stand the news.   So when I'm in a building and somebody plays the radio and the news comes, I just look,   I got hearing aids where I got Spotify. So I play a sound of Iron Maiden just like, oh, blast that through my fucking ears instead of the the news. But the thing is,   you know, back in the days, you had, like,   hear me, hear out, old man. 3   radio   3 TV stations and, both well, some of them provided something. But nowadays, you have, like,   thousands   and thousands of channels.  

Probably, if you're gonna sit down on your couch and you're gonna skip them 1 by 1, second by second,   But you you will be doing the same shit for, like, a couple of days before you would just enter all of them. And then you think, oh, that was a great program.   Can't find   it? Or it's over and it just it's starting a new one. It's crazy shit, man.   Or or are we getting getting old? Or are we just like the guys that work pick up You guys do that's one of it too. I didn't want   We just wanna pick up a pick up a guitar and and play some stuff, you know? That's that's what we we would love to do, you know, make more content about that.   I was on TikTok for quite a while, live.  

You know, and just like, okay.   I'm disorganized, so just just play a song   or ask for a song. I'm gonna play over it on my disorganized way. And it it worked out   quite well.   But the community strikes that I get all the time, like, oh, you just said something wrong. Like, what?   Oh, I said fuck. Oh, I'm sorry for that. Then I was drinking a beer. Oh, no alcohol allowed. Then I was smoking the cigarette. Oh, you smoke. That's not oh, what the hell? Come on, dude.   I'm just I'm a rock and roller. Come on. What what what do you expect? You know, just just sitting down like,   I can't do that. I just can't do that.  

That is weird. It's the same with podcasting, man. If you see how how easy it is to get a community striker to get the channel off. I mean, you told me, like, 4 times now?  

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Yeah. On YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've even had believe it or not, I've had stuff   only once on BitShoot and Rumble,   and even Spreaker actually took down something.   Wow. Yeah. But, I mean, it was it was ice.   I covered, like, the first three initiations in the OTO, the first four.   Like, believe it or not, this is how they get away with with you not allowing to really repeat it. Believe it or not, that shit's copyrighted.   Their stuff will be in a book. There probably is neither one or a few actual books of it printed that might be at the lodges, or it's, like, photocopies of the original, but it is something that's copyrighted.   So when you start running your mouth about it and if you're actually, like, you know, word for word or reading something, they should be like, yo. That's copyright infringement.  

So somebody from the OTO, they do have their own lawyers. It was you know, it's fucked up. It was a chick that I knew from my lodge.   It was a it was a girl that I knew from my lodge that was in charge of that shit, and then I found out was the one who ended up doing it anyway,   was the one who ended up, contacting and getting all my stuff taken down.   Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. Spreaker took it down. Rumble took it down. Took it down. I was really surprised.   Oh, dude. I can imagine that. I did not think Rumble a bitch would. I've you know? I really thought that they'd be okay, and they came down.  

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Oh.   I know that you have to   say or it's for entertainment purse versus,  

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only only for entertainment purposes only, or just like a shout out to the copyright of whatever the fuck. Right? But the thing is too is, like, I'm surprised, like, with copyrights, I could be wrong. But, like, if I'm not making money off of it, what's the problem?   There was no commercials in my podcast and nothing. You know, it wasn't monetized. So, like Right? Yeah. Like,   you're just being dicks.  

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But but the same thing is that there are several topics out there that you can talk about. Yeah. We we just talked about the Nazis and stuff like that. That's that's like, okay.   Could oh, maybe some sensors go off in the FBI and stuff like that. But if you talk some subjects about that  

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I noticed with Nazis, if you cover old shit that's, like,   I guess, accepted as true,   and you don't start accusing people who are still alive today being a Nazi, you or if you say it in different ways, you're actually kind of okay on YouTube. Yeah. That's actually another issue that I have had with calling Elon Musk. 1,   anytime I've ever actually gone on for, like, a few seconds calling him a Nazi, I'll then I end up getting a warning or a strike. That's happened to me too. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, damn. Neither Elon or just specifically, like, calling people Nazis that are still alive. I guess they don't like that. They don't like that? I I was I was thinking about where does the  

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the Nazi   come from? Is it National   Zionist?  

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I think so. Yeah.   I think the Nazis are actually,   the Ashkenazis   Right. Of, of Judaism, and I I do actually this is not crazy. I think that they're actually having kind of a even fucking with the Sephardic ones.   Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I don't know what if it that's why you will see Jewish people and Nazis, but yet they're killing other Jews is because they're not killing the same one. COVID 19, believe it or not, Ashkenazis   are immune to   it's even it's a scientific fact   that the Ashkenazis'   DNA   with COVID is different.   Or at least it was the vaccination that they're they'll be they would have been immune to it was something to do. You can look it up. I you   it's fucking weird, dude. It's it's actually weird. Like, how does one specific Jewish race happen to be okay with this stuff?  



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Isn't that why,   I think highly love talks about that that   the the big fault where they they have all the the DNA of the people   that they wanna find out, like, that this string of DNA, like, that's the perfect string.   I think that ties into that. Right?   And it's fascinating because I'm living here in the Netherlands.   We had Anna Frank and all that stuff. You can't talk about that stuff either,   which I do not like. But when somebody says, oh, you you you so what my mom says, cut down the the subject. I'm not gonna talk about it anymore, or you can't ask me any questions about it. Then I have a   big, like, oh, we gonna look at that a little bit more. Because   when your story and when your facts add up,   why don't you talk about it? Yeah.  

Or and and I think eventually, they brought down now the the the people that died in World War 2,   in Auschwitz, for example.   That's strange. You know, when when you when you defend this number of this this holy number of whatever the fuck it is. And then all of a sudden,   oh, no. We we we brought it down, but you can't talk about it either. What?   What's what's happening there?   That's crazy.   Especially when you think, like, okay. We make, we make a PC game   about what if the Nazis would still rule the world. Oh, yeah. And then you got all these ties connected to to Argentina,   where they find swastikas   all over the place.  

I think in in one of the of Sam's,   podcast with El Boriales that that talks about it. It's it's like crazy shit, man. Like a swastika in a in a swimming pool.   Like,   hey, dude. Here I am. What the fuck?   And it's fascinating because he also took one of the oldest symbols that has so much power within it.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's   like fuck.  

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You know what? This   is this is just my experience and my opinion.   You know, I don't know if you listened to the episode on Heidi when I talked about my experience messing with magic.   Not yet.   I have I always have the same visuals   and feelings, experiences that's it goes, like, pretty much in order before I have a magical experience. It's always, like, the same thing.   And there'll be it always starts off with, like, a white dot and eventually turns into an eclipse. It's very much like, one of the logos that I use. Mhmm.   There will be a point   where you will see that symbol   because you'll have lines coming out of the eclipse, and it starts to spin. It'll start to look just like the swastika.  

And the thing is is this is how I look at it.   For me,   when I start seeing these visions before I have a magical experience, it's a beautiful thing for me. It's a beautiful image. It's it's it's amazing for me to be witnessing what's about to happen. Mhmm. Have a magical experience.   That guy took a symbol   to me   of beauty   and fucked it off to where now nobody ever can use that shit again or they'll think that they hate Jews.   He co opted a beautiful fucking symbol and fucked it up.   It's it's It's   one of the images you see. Technically, this is the crazy thing.   When it comes to magic, and I didn't have to, like, go out there right now, but when it comes to magic and my experience with magic with a k, real magic, you have to actually die.  

If you want to have a rebirth, you're going to actually have to physically die to an extent.   Mhmm. And those are visions that I constantly see before   I die.   So now, of course, like, you know, as a beautiful image for me that I have an experience with God after the fact, that guy took an image that is associated with death, but used it here.   And fuck you know what I'm saying? Like, he perverted the fucking   thing and fucked it off. And it's like, if I ever wanted to use that imagery and an experience to try to, you know, explain it, I'd be looked at, like, fucked up.   Right? And that makes no sense. Kinda hard to explain, but if people see what I'm getting at, he just kind of, like, take an image and actually, like, really shit on it and make it not usable by anybody else now unless you wanna be considered crazy.  



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I think that's the agenda to to,   ridicule and to to take that symbol down because it's so powerful for people. You see it in Angkor, what, like 1000 of years old temples.   You see also in Hebrew, there it's a sign. It's a it's a symbol about,   the the wheel of life. It's the It's so many things. So many things. There's, you know, the 4 season, all all that stuff. And you have several. You have, inverted ones.   And he only flipped it a little bit. That makes it like but the things same thing is a lot of people do not know that it's the the greeting like the the Hitler salute.   Eventually, it was the,   Olympic   salute.  

So before he did in Munich, I think it was in Munich or in Berlin,   the Olympic games where he was shouting out with this Hitler,   salute.   Everyone did that with the Olympic salute   that that, you know, that gesture.   But he took it and he perverted it so that no one now can do that. Well, you don't have to, but,  

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you know Interesting. If you if you do ceremonial magic, there is certain hand gestures or symbols that you can do to represent,   the elements.   Mhmm. And like this one, everybody knows that. That's that's for fire. Yes. And then you go like this upside down. That that's for water. Water? Right? This is for air.   And then   this,   putting one hand out like that and the other one back a little bit, basically doing the same thing Hitler does. That's Uh-huh. You  

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said the same is the is around. Right? Earth.  

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It's a fucking arm move.   But you just put your other one back a little bit, and you put your arm up like that, just like you're saluting Hitler. That's the symbol for   Earth. Like, a lot of his stuff is very close.  

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Danny was such a good painter, they say.  

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Oh, yeah. I've heard of him.  

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And he took that symbol. That's so stupid. You know, if you if if you can make beautiful logos and stuff like that, we but you but you steal something from some from so many other cultures. But I think it's   basically, on on   in every single country or or, hemisphere has been found like the the the swastika,   which is not bad at all. But you just told, like, magic experience.   When do you have that? Or do you meditate to get one? Or please explain. Yes.  

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That is a great question.   I'd like to actually, yeah, preface that if we go into any more of it.   These magical experiences that I had,   1, I did not actually use any rituals to do it, and I do not believe that you actually need to do rituals to have these experiences that I've had, you know, if if it's what I think I'm having.   And,   at the time, believe it or not,   I had probably stopped smoking weed for about 15 to 17 years. I didn't start again until COVID came because I was like, yo, if I gotta go out with these crazy lunatics that are, like, oozing with anxiety   Right. I'm like, I gotta get stoned and just heal.  

I was like, I can't. I was like, I'm gonna have to go back to smoking weed to deal with this crap. Right. If you still use it as a coke need somebody to go back to smoking weed. I went back to smoking weed, but I already had my magical experiences before then. So what I can even say is that no drugs or alcohol were even used. Mhmm.   So I just I would like to make that very, you know yeah. There was no rituals used, and there was no,   drugs and alcohol. And, basically, for me,   it's all done through deep meditation and maybe some chakra work. But for me, I all I do is I will close my eyes.   I will try to meditate. I have, like, maybe certain practices that I will do with visuals and just thoughts about my body and certain energies.  

I'll play around with that for a while, and then eventually, I just try to, like, ease my mind and   focus.   And if it happens you know,   funny thing is is, like, sometimes if I'm lusting it to happen, it won't. So it's, like, almost I kinda have to just be like, I'm just gonna go meditate, or whatever happens happens. Uh-huh.   If, if I find myself in this situation,   I can go very deep into a meditation to where I do believe that that's that's all you need to actually do it across the abyss.   Right? I I have not you know, of course, in the past, I have done   high thousands of rituals. You know? And it could just be as basic as me just banishing constantly just to remove any influences on me. That's not   my ritualistic work was. But, you know, I have done that plenty of times. I have done rituals to make talismans and all that stuff, candle magic.  

But when it really came down to me having what I believe is real magical experience,   No rituals, though.  

[00:59:35] Unknown:

Wow.  

[00:59:36] Unknown:

Yeah. That's something that But it has to do with the ease of the mind. Right? Yes. Yeah. I think,   basically, you're gonna put yourself into a deep meditation to where   I think, like, your body will kinda, like, slowly start to, like you you ever hear of, like, these bunks of these people living out somewhere, and they go into such meditation that they seem to be dead? Uh-huh. Like, I do think, like, that stuff's real. Like,   you know, even the   movie flatliners, maybe for some people to understand what I'm really trying to get at, that would be like a cheat code where they're using science to knock each other out. They kill each other. They have an experience, and then they bring them back, and then they know   you know, you just you don't come back the same.  

You know, you come back with different understanding and experiences.   Something very close to that, but you're doing it on your own. Like, you're actually, like as crazy it is, I think you're almost, like, kinda making your soul and your body okay with separating.  

[01:00:28] Unknown:

Right. You know? And and also a little bit astral traveling and lucid dreaming. Right? Yeah. I would say astral travel, it's like you're kind of already on your way to blasting off. Right. But the but but the real fascinating thing for me is if you see how many   things that are on the radar right now with all the impulses and all the Wi Fi signals and all the stuff that we don't see and all the stuff that we've been putting into our eyes and body   Yeah. That makes, like, our crystal, because our pineal gland is a crystal too,   less vibrating.  

But if you are, like, comfortably   at ease at home, and you're just, like, you know, when you go and   come back from work, you go down on the couch, you're feeling like, you know, you're drifting away, but you're still, like,   aware of, like, I gotta get up at, like, 6 o'clock to to to get some dinner, stuff like that. So you still have consciousness there, but your body falls asleep after a long day of work,   then that magic probably could happen.  

[01:01:27] Unknown:

Mhmm. Right?   I think so. I mean, I think we even kind of experience,   believe it or not, a little bit of magic dreaming.   You know? Because I think that is a way of like, I think our soul might kind of tether when we do that.   That's what I think. I don't know. Something to that extent. But  

[01:01:45] Unknown:

what what do you think you like the ether is? Because that's one of the elements that took out that took out.  

[01:01:51] Unknown:

I would say, you know, when it when it comes down to my my experiences with magic,   I do think that you're   for me. You're tapping into,   I guess, like, kind of an old an old consciousness and all knowing.   You know? And I and I do believe, like I mean, it's it may seem like a cheesy cheesy way to explain it out, but, I mean, in some sense, it makes it a little bit more crazier in my opinion. I think that's why we might have pyramids all over the world at different times when they never communicated with each other because they tapped into the same source. They had a magical experience. Right. And if and if every possibility   is possible wherever you go,   you know, for that, that's everything. Who's to say you just didn't catch the same fleeting idea that somebody else caught over there? Right. And it'd be found all over the world. I mean Yeah. Yeah. I just I think that's why you have a lot of symbolism you will see.  

Same all over the world at times when how did you even talk? And you start, like, trading ways of how somebody must have gotten across the seas. No. It's because you guys saw the same shit, and you're in Right.   You like I said before, and I know for a fact that's with other people, the visions that I see before I have a magical experience, people have seen them too. They fuck with   magic. So I I mean, and I'm not saying that this is the case,   but how does the Vatican deem people who have had experiences with God?   They go and question them and they give them their experience, and there has to be certain things that hit, that is known, that that is even real.  

So like even seen the same thing with me and other occultists,   some of us share the same exact visuals and experiences before we blast off. That's how I know   someone's real because there's ways that you'll have to explain this because there is no words for a magical experience. You will That's all. It's all like archetypes   or feelings or visuals that you have to string along to even give somebody an idea of what you experienced.   You could tell between somebody who really had one and didn't the loss for words and wave that you're even trying to explain it.   But, like, that's why I say, like, in in symbolism.  

You know, I use that eclipse stuff all the time. I mean, other occultists   due to the symbolism and I that I use and the things that I say, they will understand that I've had the same experience.   That's a lot of that's a lot of shit even with celebrities. In my opinion, they're just boasting.   Yes. When they take, like, crazy pictures,   they don't give a fuck because they understand. I've experienced something that 93% of the planet never will. They think they're above us because they understand more, and I'm just advertising what I know to everybody else.  

[01:04:22] Unknown:

Yes. And the other thing is like people live among us.   Yes. The the other thing is if if you are seeing how many of these,   celebrities are doing the occult stuff, you know, with the eyes and stuff like that. So the question is, do you wanna tell us, like,   look further?   Or you know, nowadays, you you got a narrative. Oh, that's all, satanism and all that stuff. No. No. Wait a minute. That comes from something. Right?   So that that comes from 1,000 of years. Satanism isn't isn't there since the Bible is there, probably. You know? Satan and God are are the same to fall in, but that that's the that's the biblical story.   You still have,   the   and stuff like that where they have to tell you that there's a godlike person when you got Shiva, the destroyer,   you know. So there's all these entities within you. You know, you have to battle within you. So where does this come from? So what's the agenda? Like, are they saying, like, look away?  

Or are they saying, like, look further?   Who are you? So what's the what's the real god that you are?   So so so if you take the the statue of liberty, everybody thought assuming it was a woman.   It seems to be midrash like the the the the Lucifer.   And the thing is, it looks like a man, like the same   as they pointed out as midrash, I think in this midrash.   So it's really fascinating, like, okay. So everyone believed   that this was a woman,   and now it turns out to be a man, which is a light bearer.   Oh, now we're gonna gee get interesting.   So Satan was a light bearer, but Jesus was also a light bearer.  

So who is who? Who are we talking to? So is it maybe that Hollywood tries to tell us, like, don't look away, but look further into it because maybe you're gonna see the truth. Are we saying   the truth, but you don't look at it?  

[01:06:24] Unknown:

Mhmm. One one thing I do wanna add, this is just my opinion, and it's something that, I talk about a lot. And it's one of the things that I guess I focus a lot on the echo rejects, one of my   more interesting topics as well besides Nazis and Mormons.   The eyeball.   My opinion, a lot of Catholicism, a lot of the Bible is actually   talking about the inside of your eye and how light works.  

[01:06:45] Unknown:

That yes. And   all light Yeah. Like, that's why we're all spoken about someone being a liar because you need 1. You need someone's gonna have to be. Right. But the thing is too, when you got no light in your eyes, your consciousness does not create this reality as a universe as you are.  

[01:07:02] Unknown:

My opinion,   falling in love   with all of this   is being in Lucifer's world.   Oh,   yeah.   You you this because because all you're doing is finding things to fall in love with besides God if we wanna start getting all religious.   So he's got he's got a fishhooks in our eyes. He's got us fucking stuck here. I love this. Right. Right.   Close your eyes, man, and find God.  

[01:07:31] Unknown:

Because the kingdom of God is with It's in you.  

[01:07:34] Unknown:

You. Yes. Close your eyes and find that in this home, man. I'm telling you.  

[01:07:38] Unknown:

Oh, damn. Yes. That's why I love this, doing this podcast. I learned so much, and there are so many, you know, crumbles just like, oh, I wanted to deep more into that, and then you figure out some stuff or not. You know?   Oh, this is great, man. Meditation is so, so important.  

[01:07:54] Unknown:

You have to silence the mind, and I think you can finally start to hear God whispering to you.  

[01:07:59] Unknown:

Oh, yes. But but it's also like   when I do meditation,   the the thing is it's it's quite cold here in the Netherlands.   I have my hammock always with me and my rucksack to go, you know, hang around in nature.   I've been walking since now since, like,   one strong. I do not have weeks. So weekends, I have strongs   strong hands. So I would try to reprogram myself.   But I walk around with my rucksack, and the best thing to meditate for me is under the trees.   Just hang in there and and feel the breeze and and and listen to   nature.  

But it's really hard now here in the Netherlands because,   we're so dense. So even if you go deep into the forest, you hear, like, far away, you hear some noises from from   the beast of society, I would call it. Like, you know, a highway or stuff like that. It's it's the roaring beast of society.   But,   yes.   Nick, I'm having a great time, but time flies later on in disorganized productions, man. Right.   What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna ask you   I think it's 14 I always screw up with this one. Fourteen questions that I have for my guests.   Sure. And,   sometimes I figure out, like, I do it in the beginning, and then I wanna do this in the beginning, but then my name pops up disorganized, and I fucked it up, and I'm just doing afterwards.  

But,   dude, there are so so many topics I wanna   deep dive more into it, and I just had a great time just just to be,   you know, scheduling this   the the this is like  

[01:09:38] Unknown:

a close call. Right? There's no cliff angle. Bam. Like I said, I felt bad anyway because I was off. Gifted this guy, like, 6 hours notice. I'm a grown man. I can see.  

[01:09:48] Unknown:

But I'm like, the option was there. He had a 2 o'clock open. Fuck it. I'll see if he see if he go   Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. Because, you know, I felt bad because it was like either it was gonna be now or it'd been, like, 2 weeks from now possibly. And I was like, let me see if it's if it works now. So Dude, it worked. It worked.   I'm I'm definitely gonna listen to you on on Heidi's podcast. I'm gonna check out more of your stuff. If you like that topic, I could definitely come on and cover that. That, you know, that was something, that would probably take an episode in itself, really, talking about my magical experience. But Right. It's something maybe we could talk about in the future if you ever want. Yeah. Yes, please. Yes. I I love this kind of topic,  

[01:10:23] Unknown:

especially, you know, to to to expect some bean for myself. Like, oh, wait. I got some maybe, like, an experience a little bit like that, or you can talk about more about that. Because it's all very,   fasting for a lot of people. And and especially if you are on a quest of some questions that you have. We do meditation. We do chakras. We do breath work. We do all that stuff, you know, to be a better person or to get a better version of yourself.   You you just need more and more answers somehow, and you're not gonna find them all by yourself. Maybe you can ask chat gpt, but that's been programmed by some   people that want you to stuck into the narrative.  



[01:11:02] Unknown:

Yeah. They gave me a good introduction.  

[01:11:05] Unknown:

Then they did. Yeah. I don't know. I never figured out my own name to put it in, but I think,   yes, it the the snake did it, and it was a great,   ups   great sum   of stuff. So, Nick, I'm gonna ask you 14 questions. The the first ones are a little bit easier, and then it goes a little bit harder.   Right. What's your favorite color?  

[01:11:28] Unknown:

Oh,   it might be I guess I'll probably go with blue for right now.  

[01:11:32] Unknown:

And and a deep blue or a light blue?  

[01:11:35] Unknown:

Probably a deeper blue. I mean, a dark dark darker blue, kind of. Would she kinda favor music?   Might be like,   maybe electronic because that will kind of encompass a lot.  

[01:11:50] Unknown:

Okay. So let me know. Oh, that's cheap. Or maybe more like Rammstein?  

[01:11:55] Unknown:

And see, that's the whole thing. I go anywhere from indust I could go anywhere from industrial to techno with that. Because it so that's where I would go. So it really it was really a cheesy answer.   I mean, I don't know. Honestly, probably, to tell you the truth, there'd probably be some sort of, like, rock or old metal.  

[01:12:11] Unknown:

Right.   Good. But if you like some techno, I did some with my DJJ   400 Pioneer,   DG equipment.   It's on YouTube on this organized productions. There are, like, 4 or 5 things that I drop with some pictures on. And I'm just, you know, I always have a great time, like, 4 or 5 hours that I played, and I mixed some stuff together, and then just, like, fuck.   I forgot   to hit the record button.   And then I do it just, like, you know, briefly. I thought I figured some things out. But, yeah, you it's good. It's a good listener, I think.   What's your favorite,   movie or series?  



[01:12:49] Unknown:

Oh, favorite movie or series?   What? A damn series? Oh, you know what? I'll go with series, Twin Peaks.  

[01:12:58] Unknown:

I heard that lasts   a couple times a few times, so I have to poke it because it's very cold. Right? Yeah. You know, it's a shame.  

[01:13:06] Unknown:

During during this during this episode, I actually found out that the guy who made that show died  

[01:13:12] Unknown:

today. Today?  

[01:13:13] Unknown:

Yes. Yeah. Somebody texted to me while we're on the show app, and I noticed, like, I saw, like, a pop up, and I was like Wow.   Like, fuck.  

[01:13:20] Unknown:

Damn.  

[01:13:21] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really I know this sound crazy because he well,   he I was in New York for a while, but I might have actually gone back. But, like, he had a thing out there, and I actually did want to meet that dude before he died because I know he's an occultist.   Well, he has a whole transcendental meditation stuff. Like,   I could put it I could go to him and tell him my experiences, and he would know that I have he would know. I just know because the way he even explains his own style of meditating. The guy's fucking explaining the same thing that I experienced.   Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I him. You know, because because you could have actually probably. I it sounds cheesy, but if you woulda went to one of his events, that might have cost you a 100 to $200.  

You could have actually personally meddled. Right. Right. And I was, like, willing to go that far to be like, would you please call my fucking podcast? We're getting old. And, like Yes. It woulda said that, and it woulda dropped dead now.  

[01:14:10] Unknown:

Oh, fuck.  

[01:14:11] Unknown:

No. But I was like because I not to not to joke. I mean, the guy was 78. I knew it was getting late. But still, come on. And, like, he I was he's I'm I'm a huge fan of him, and it was, like, it's kinda was a bucket list. I did one day wanna get David Lynch on my show. I mean,   And I was like, fuck. I'll go to that extent if I have to actually   personally meet him and beg him on.  

[01:14:31] Unknown:

Dude. But, you know, I guess But 78, come on. Yes. You could still be, like,   well, a few years ago, you could still be, like, the president of the United States.  

[01:14:44] Unknown:

I know how Oh, he was much better. He's much sharper than both of us. Oh, 100%.  

[01:14:49] Unknown:

Oh, yes. 100%. But I I'm just trying to say, like, if you're 78, you still can make it to the president of the United States. If you're a retard, shit your pants, go to ice cream van, and sniff people. I mean, that's just   Right. And you'll still live on. Yeah. Oh, you still live yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And just you just said your your your goodbye speech You somebody wrote.   But okay. So what's your favorite book?  

[01:15:19] Unknown:

That's a tough one. Favorite book?   You know what? So, actually, it will one of my favorite ones I can easily mention right now is intensity by Dean Coombs.   Intensity.   Yeah. From page 1 to the end, it will feel like your heart is racing the whole time. Like, it just starts off intense   and stays like a page turner the whole fucking   book. It is like a nonstop hang like cliffhanger.   It blew me away when I read it. I was like, wow. That's why you called it intensity. Right. And what's the author?   Dean Dean Koons. Dean Koons.   And some good stuff that I think is even kind of a cult, possibly.  

Okay. See, is a very good author. You saw the the movie,  

[01:15:59] Unknown:

nefarious?   Yeah. That's a good one too. Damn.   Okay.   What's your favorite booze or drink?  

[01:16:10] Unknown:

Oh, favorite booze.   I do like Blue Moon with some beer.  

[01:16:16] Unknown:

Blue Moon and beer. Beer. Yeah. Yeah. It's a beer. Is it like an ale or like strong one or Pilsner?  

[01:16:22] Unknown:

I think it's, what I think it's   Good. Way of some chili. I don't know.  

[01:16:28] Unknown:

So Blue Moon. Okay. Got it. When when I'm gonna I got a big Blue Moon. I'll be on the drag one. What counts, sir?   What's your favorite food?  

[01:16:37] Unknown:

Oof.   Man,   probably some sort of chicken.   Uh-huh. Okay. And I I I do I mean, I love Italian food, but I'm I do love some Chinese as well. But, I mean, I'm a big chicken eater. That's Are you are you you have some, Italian roots?  

[01:16:53] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that. I thought that. A little yes. I can see it in my eyes.   What, kind of clothing you like to wear the most?  

[01:17:03] Unknown:

Believe it or not, like,   like, probably, like, I do have I have a lot of polo clothes   clothes.   Them them and Banana Republic, believe it or not. But you know what the crazy thing is? I go to the outlets.   Cool. So it's like a no lie, but I know it sounds crazy. And it's like, oh, why are you promoting them? Well, the the shirts will last longer, and it's the same price as going to Walmart and Target once you go to a fucking outlet. Believe me. Right? You get a T shirt for 15, $20. And I could wash it 20 times, and it hasn't fallen apart.  

[01:17:30] Unknown:

Wow.   So so is is it something like, Ben Sherman and and,   Fred Perry? Is is the real thing here? Like, the the the the,   it's,  

[01:17:41] Unknown:

British   style, polos, you know? Yeah. Probably that, but I would say, like, that equivalency is, I guess,   you know, not style, but the way it's made. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:17:54] Unknown:

It's it's it's just good quality. And it looks good. It looks looks really decent.   What's your favorite holiday destination?  

[01:18:04] Unknown:

So far, I've been to Italy.  

[01:18:07] Unknown:

Where you've been in Italy? Like, Toscana  

[01:18:09] Unknown:

or Florence? I went I went to, Rome.   Mhmm. I went to Venice.   I did see,   the Colosseum,  

[01:18:18] Unknown:

then, Ravello in the Maffei Coast I went to. Oh, that's cool. I can tell you. It is beautiful.  

[01:18:25] Unknown:

Oh, I videotaped so much. I mean, I probably have, like, a 2 or 3 part documentary on just the occult architecture in Italy, but, yeah, it'll probably take me forever to get to it. But  

[01:18:34] Unknown:

so much stuff. It was unreal. So Dude, I swear to god, one of the best games ever, I think, is one of the first   illustrative thoughts.   Easy, oh, fuck.   With the knives and stuff like that.   Assassin's Creed. Right. And they have one episode, it was in Venice and Florence and stuff like that, but they made everything   exactly   like it is right now. So you got all these old temples and you have to get into there, and you have to collect some art. So I have the art house and stuff that's where you have a big villa. You have all these daggers and all that stuff. But,   when you have a painting and you saw it, it's gonna be in your house   and all the artifacts, and you can   you can walk through the gallery and click on it and see everything that who painted it, where it was, and stuff like that. But it's so awesomely made. It's been like Venice and Florence   back in in 1200 or whatever the fuck. So fucking cool.  



[01:19:37] Unknown:

Okay. There's a lot of stuff I got.  

[01:19:40] Unknown:

Yeah. What's your definition of the devil?  

[01:19:46] Unknown:

Damn. Oh, shoot. That's hard.   Man, itself could be the devil if he ever wants to be.   Yes.   I mean,   that's a cheesy answer,   but   I do think a lot of that stuff is all within ourselves.  

[01:20:06] Unknown:

I I think that that that's   a  

[01:20:09] Unknown:

lot more Or or an an option or an archetype that man can choose from.  

[01:20:14] Unknown:

Oh,  

[01:20:16] Unknown:

more like that one. Yeah. It's it's it's a character that we've been gifted   the allowance to choose and play with.   That's that's true. That's true. Yeah. I mean, you think about it, and I'm not denying there isn't a hell, but man can make hell on earth anytime he wants.  

[01:20:32] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.  

[01:20:34] Unknown:

Grab some PayPal on some motherfuckers. They'll think they're in hell. Well, not only that. If you see, like,  

[01:20:39] Unknown:

if you if you could you can create your own hell by just, like, sitting down on your chair and think that everything's fucked up.  

[01:20:48] Unknown:

Anybody else. Yep. That's true. That is our true. Yeah. Never even looked at it like that. And only when I say that, it's like people doing horrible things to other people, but you could do horrible things to yourself. Oh, yes, exactly.  

[01:20:58] Unknown:

It's,   the easiest part to be in your hell, you know, and everybody around you is is like, oh, they they are living in paradise. No. You you choose to be in hell.   I like to dig dig deep into that conversation one   one time. What's the definition of God?  

[01:21:17] Unknown:

Both, I guess.  

[01:21:22] Unknown:

So and what's your interpretation of value?  

[01:21:29] Unknown:

Truth, maybe?   Mm-mm.  

[01:21:33] Unknown:

What should this, interpretation of success?  

[01:21:37] Unknown:

Oh,   Oh,   doing something that you love doing.  

[01:21:47] Unknown:

What's your favorite quote?  

[01:21:51] Unknown:

Well, that's a hard one.   You maybe have to come back to  

[01:22:01] Unknown:

Yeah.   Okay. For this answer, ladies and gentlemen, you have tuned in part 2.   Sorry. You got one. You don't have to answer it. Right? There's no Right.   So if if it's too hard to answer, you don't have to answer it. So what's your life's motto?  

[01:22:22] Unknown:

Don't fear.   Oh, wow. Yes. I say that I say that a lot. I mean, maybe that's might even be one of my favorite quotes. It's just but I even do try to explain that a lot on my show. And even, like, I I do make a cult art and, like, a cult intros for my show. And sometimes a a thing that,   you know, don't you know, when I even say that, it's like I even mean, like, don't fear god either.   Right.   You know?   Go go go   in my opinion, we have to we have to do the work to go back to him. He didn't walk away from me. I walked away from him.   So I gotta turn my head around. I gotta turn my ass around, not fear the repercussions, and just   go.  



[01:23:00] Unknown:

Is it like if the if the mountain doesn't come to moment moment, it has to move to the mountain?  

[01:23:07] Unknown:

Right? Don't fear the journey. Just do it.  

[01:23:10] Unknown:

Right. You know, dude, it oh, and and embrace every challenge you got because that that's that makes life interesting. Right?   The lessons to be learned. Oh, yeah. Nick, I had a great time. Nick from your cold rejects, where do people can find you?  

[01:23:26] Unknown:

Again, I'm on YouTube still, Bitchute and Rumble for video and then all major podcast hosts. And, we do have   occultresearchinstitute.org,   which is a website that   has me, has a bunch of the occult rejects, and has other people that we're very,   cool with. You know, 7 Degrees of Wisdom, Megan Mario from Symbolic Studies. You know, there's people on there that may not technically be an occult reject because they got their own things going on and then, you know, whatever. Right. No. And,   associates, you know, that that have contributed   a lot of stuff on there. So it's not even to brag for me or, like, my, you know, my cohost Lisa or any of my other cult rejects. There's a lot of information on there by other people that on different topics.  

It's a good, like, beginner's place probably too, and there's some deep stuff.   And there's a lot of, like, information on old occultists and old grimoires.   And there's stuff in there that I think people can definitely learn from, get an idea of what magic is really about.  

[01:24:26] Unknown:

I'd love to dig more into that. Practice  

[01:24:29] Unknown:

it. That is one thing. You're not gonna know how to practice it, but you'll get the understanding of the whole  

[01:24:34] Unknown:

Yes.  

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Because people have to be very, very I'm not how to tell people. I'm not here to tell people how to practice. No. No. No. No. No. I besides meditate.   I'm not telling you how to do rituals.  

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There are books out there. You gotta listen to my podcast with Yost.   He's talking about some books where you can find some stuff in it, but Oh, yeah. Fucking careful. It's it's out there, you know, but Yeah. It's No. It yeah. You have to be very careful. It's very powerful stuff that that, you can   conquer and and that you can see and that you can eventually  

[01:25:09] Unknown:

could take over you. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's one thing too. It's like, how do we know where these rituals even put us to begin with?   Right. No. Maybe you know, believe it or not,   again, just just maybe to, because we're wrapping up. This is something I do like to try to promote. I don't know if I really said at the beginning. But, like, you know, a lot of the secrets of secrets has to do with the eyeballs and stuff. Mhmm. And I highly stress people. Please go look at the eyeball and learn how it works and look at all different angles and different parts of your eye. You'll start seeing some weird stuff.  

[01:25:37] Unknown:

But, I I do think, fuck. Where were we again? I'm so sorry. With the eyeballs. Yeah. We'll we'll Yeah. I know. Little bit. With the meditation?  

[01:25:45] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. With the,   fuck. I I had a train of thought, and I just lost it. Damn.  

[01:25:51] Unknown:

It's So sorry. Dude, it happens to me all the time when I'm doing.   Like, the stupidest  

[01:25:56] Unknown:

mind fart is like, fuck. I haven't done that one in a few shows.   Oh. Well  

[01:26:03] Unknown:

That go I think that goes natural when you are   eve's the way you ice recording. Right?   We record, but I'm not gonna cut it in and and edit those   stuff out. But every time I'm going, like, on a camera,  

[01:26:16] Unknown:

I know shit happens. Shit happens. I still get nervous podcasting. I don't get nervous really as a guest. But my own show, I guess, I feel like I have to, like   you go live especially, I go live a lot, so it's like I gotta read a chat. I gotta I could have 5 or 6 people on it. It's just like Oh, so you go live on YouTube? Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. We go live a lot, believe it or not. Wow. So it's gonna be recorded directly on YouTube, and it's gonna be out there right away?   Yeah. Like alright. Like, I drop 2 shows a week, but, like, sometimes, like,   maybe,   like, if you catch a live, like, it's only, like, one show out of the 2 that are eventually gonna drop. It's hard to explain. I go live about every other show. I don't go live every show. Right. Right. Right. Because the thing is if I go live, odds are a month and a half from now, that show's gonna drop in my regular podcasting video rotation.  

So you're gonna so sometimes I only you know what I'm getting at? Like, I I do I do the lives end up getting recorded and used as my podcast, and I'm probably about a month and ahead already scheduled.   So, like, it'll it'll drop again. So sometimes on my lives, I will actually, like, only keep it up a few days and then actually make it private or just take it down. It's almost like a sneak peek for the series.   Right. Video fans. That's all it really is, to tell you the truth. I hope there was a platform  

[01:27:33] Unknown:

then that you could do a live show, and that's been spread it out to all the platforms like   Rumble and Bitchute and and YouTube and stuff like that. I think it is what we have. Apple,   Max I use StreamYard. Joel Baumann.   So so King Bao, they work with it, but it's it's not flawless  

[01:27:52] Unknown:

yet. I stream out to, like, I think, 7 places at once, actually. With streamer?   Streamyard. Yeah. It's because of the package I have. Yeah. I could stream out to 8, but I think I only stream out to 7.   Yeah. Because of Twitter now. Oh. Yeah. I stream out, to Facebook. I have a Facebook, the call rejects, and I have, like, I had to make an account just to make the group. So I made John Ocular.   So it streams out through John Ocular's Facebook,   then it goes out to Twitch, then it goes to BitShoot. It goes to Rumble. It goes to   YouTube.  

And then I think there's, like, maybe one other one in there. I'm forgetting or something. Or maybe it's only 6. But, yeah, it should have been out to a lot of places at once. Oh, that's not too bad. But it's gonna cost you, like,   quite some money. Right? $800 a year.   Fuck. Because of the 4 k recording too. This is what sucks. It's it I I was using the 10 80. There was no 4 k for StreamYard, but it made the package.   And it was, like, 450. And I still thought that. I was like, goddamn. You're robbing me. But it's like, I I do want decent video quality, and I do their their shit is just easy for me to use. So I dealt with it. Then they jumped up to 4 k and just assumed, I guess, since I was in the highest package, you're just gonna move me up with the to the next highest package. Right. And I can pay with a 800 and something dollar bill in stream and I see it on my bank. I'm like,   yo. What the hell happened with StreamYard? And I go in, and I'm like   I go to, like, open up StreamYard, and I'm like, oh, now it's telling me I got 4 k capabilities and all this shit. I'm like, yo, these cocksuckers just signed me up automatically when my bill renewed for the top pot package.  

Oh, shit. Yo. What if you had $600 in your bank account? This shit just bounced? Oh. And you know what I'm saying? Like,   you have the balls. Come on.   You have the balls to do that to somebody. Oh, yeah. We're just gonna let it fly.  

[01:29:37] Unknown:

Oh, dude. And then you have to deal with the fact that you do not have probably a 4 k camera.  

[01:29:43] Unknown:

No. I do have a 4 k camera, but the thing is is I'm the only one on my show who does. So what the fuck's the difference? Oh, shit.   So I'll look good, and everybody else looks 10 k or 7  

[01:29:57] Unknown:

Like, pixelized.   Yeah. Like, it doesn't mean You got a pixelized gas on the left. You got a pixelized gas on the right. K. You're very good. Doesn't make a difference anyway.   Oh my god. Yeah. But that's a struggle too, man. I I use Zoom. I think it's but I I I have to do a lot of things before I'm gonna, you know, edit the show and stuff like that.   I figured it out. I I I got some sponsors, and and I got some great, producers that that sponsor me some stuff. So I can do that with the computer, for example,   with my phone to do all that stuff. But it takes quite some time. And every time it's a single   thing that you have to deep into,   deep dive into, you know, with software.  

I I use CapCut now because it's easy. I want to do it with DaVinci, but it's, you know, it takes some time to to get through it. So because I work   and I do this show 2 hours,   then I have to add it 2 hours. If I do it on on DaVinci, probably gonna take me 3 hours, 4 hours to figure out all the stuff, but I could make it much more fancy stuff like that. And the funny thing is every single day, I'm gonna receive 3 to 5 emails, like, hello. I want to,   check you out because your SEO sucks. Nobody can find your, website. And I think, like, you find my fucking   disorganized   production atgmail.com   address. So you figure out   who I am, why I am, and what I'm doing. Right? So what's up with, nobody can find your SEO, you know, the website.  

I don't   know.  

[01:31:28] Unknown:

You can spend a lot of money. I mean, this is like a money spending game somehow. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But Sure. Thanks, Nick, for hopping on. Oh, hell yeah. No. No. Thank you for, again, like, I was the one who chose, like, to book you, you know, whatever the option was there. I was like, let's see if it works. Thank you for sure. Damn. It works.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good time too, man. I really had a good talk with you, bro. Yeah. Thanks, man. Just talk about it every time you want. My time. I know.  

[01:31:52] Unknown:

Not like in a half an hour before, but we just made it happen. That's   all it's about. And great connection again, and great talks that we had about, well, so many things. And I think there are a lot of topics that you can take out and go deep dive into like in half an hour or maybe 45 minutes or whatever,   because there's a lot to talk about in this world. It's this crazy.  

[01:32:15] Unknown:

Sure. I agree with that. Yeah.  

[01:32:17] Unknown:

Nick, thanks for helping on. And for everyone who's listening to the show, thank you for, for listening to the show, and have a beautiful   grand rising, a beautiful day or beautiful evening, no matter where you are in this beautiful lane planet.   Thank you.  

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He's a pain in the ass. Black as   a night,   god show me the light and hope you're tired.   For I'll be running through all my life,   where the devil won my heels.