In this episode of the Disorganized Productions podcast, host Rob welcomes back recurring guest Eric Finnäs for a lively and insightful conversation. They dive into a variety of topics, including the challenges Eric faces with his living situation in the Netherlands and his search for a new home. Eric shares his experiences of living in a motor home provided by his boss and the difficulties of finding a permanent place to stay.
The discussion takes a philosophical turn as Rob and Eric explore the idea of reality and perception, touching on conspiracy theories, the power of media, and the influence of societal narratives. They ponder the concept of truth and how it shapes our understanding of the world.
Rob and Eric also reflect on personal growth and achievements over the past year, discussing the importance of presence, patience, and finding purpose in life. They share personal stories and insights on dealing with past traumas and the journey towards self-improvement.
The episode is filled with humor and camaraderie as Rob and Eric reminisce about their past experiences, including Eric's music career and Rob's adventures in Peru. They discuss the creative process, the challenges of producing music, and the joy of performing live.
Throughout the episode, Rob and Eric emphasize the importance of community, connection, and supporting one another in the pursuit of personal and collective growth. They express gratitude for their friends and collaborators and look forward to future projects and collaborations.
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Skip me bridge like squirrel, baby.
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What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect for the lore.
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Welcome fellow human to the disorganized productions podcast. The show that fuels your spirit, ignites your potential, and helps you become the best version of yourself. I'm your host, Rob, and each episode, we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you, tap into your limitless potential, and conquer life's challenges. Hey there, fellow human. Welcome to another episode of Disorganized Productions. If you wanna get get in contact with me, please be free and write an email to disorganized productions at gmail dot com.
If you want to check out more stuff that I'm doing, please check my link tree, which is also slash disorganized productions. And for all you producers out there that helped the show, that liked and subscribed, and even donate to the show, thank you. Without any further ado, enjoy the show. Ladies and gentlemen, fellow human, welcome to another special episode of disorganized productions. Today's guest is the returning guest. It's I think it's the 3rd time now. And we had a we had a threesome. We had a right? With with the snake turban hat. And my guest today is, the special, the mister Eric Phineas.
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What's up, my brother? How are you?
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Oh, challenging, to be honest with you. Yeah? A lot of people know a little bit about my situation. Wanna talk a little bit about it, and then we can, we can have a good ramble on. Because, eventually, I had to, get out of my trailer. Yeah. Sold I sold for only very, very little price, the, my home, basically. And now I was searching for a mobile home. But, it comes too challenging, especially here in the Netherlands, because it's too cold. There's no place that you can stand, or you have to pay for it. And if the car breaks down, you're basically fucked.
Right. So, everyone that's listening here in the Netherlands, especially in the region of Limburg, which is my, on the countryside here, on province of Limburg. I'm looking for a a a place to stay for, like, a room or whatever with the shower and the bath. That's, that's all I need. So I can do my podcasts with all, rest. Because last time when I did a podcast, I did it in the cantina of the work where I'm at. And, people buy bashed in because it's a cantina. So I had to say, shut up. I'm doing a podcast. It was with, Skunkle Phil. Yeah. So, yeah, challenging times. I'm I'm now I have the the luxury that, I'm in a very big, motor home, which is property of my boss.
I can sleep here. I got it warm. That's that's really cool. I'm really,
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thinking. Yeah. I saw that. When you were doing the unchanged church that you were in a a camper van or motor home. I didn't know if that was yours, if you'd bought it, or or what that?
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Oh, no. If I can afford this, I could afford a a fucking island. Right. But I just to be honest with you, Eric, I was talking to my buddy who is on a bike, on a motorcycle from the Netherlands to New Zealand. And he's now stuck for a couple of weeks, a couple of strongs as I prefer to say, in Iran. And he said, it's beautiful here. And it doesn't cost a dime. So if you have a pizza and a and a and a Coke on the sides, it's gonna cost you, like, $1. Petrol, diesel is like 25¢.
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Well, that's why they're the bad guys. Right? Because they're living, outside of our matrix, and they're probably all happy and not under our thumb. You know what I mean? Absolutely.
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Absolutely. And I really liked it when we just, hopped on disorganized productions. You are wearing this shirt of disorganized productions. Wow. Look at that. You can purchase it in my shop for for those who will look at it. And, of course, in in in my link tree, there's a there's a a link to my web shop. And I'm and it was what what it's coincidence. This is the art that Eric made.
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With the where's the squirrel with the squirrel on the side. Oh, wait. I gotta figure that out. Yep. And branches like a squirrel. And and and if you look at the moon I mean, you can't see it, but it's perfect. Like, it looks like the Mortal Kombat dragon in the moon, and that's a real picture I took of the moon on my crappy phone.
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Wow. Well, how are you doing, man? Because it's been it's been, like, 6 months or something like that that we talked what what we talked to our on, on our Telegram groups. But since we really got into a conversation, it's been a while.
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Yeah. It's been quite a few strongs.
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Yes. And,
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so I'm great, man. First off, happy Thor's Day. Happy Thor's Day. I don't have anything with me. I'm Yeah. All those all good. This is my cost. This is my custom cup I made with the hammer and Wow. Skull. Got my got my rune on it and Yeah.
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I love that. Yes. Because your are your your ancestors are coming from up here. Right? So from the Scandinavian. Yeah. We're sweetfins. Sweetfins.
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Sounds good. Or a mixture of both. Yeah. Some some Swedish and some Laplanders and yeah. No. I've been great, dude. I was surprised. I I really thought you were gonna be down there in South America for a little bit longer. I was like, I didn't pending on I knew you had to come back and deal with your with your trailer and all your property and stuff, but I was like for a while, I was like, I was just thinking, like, I could see him saying, fuck it. I'm staying down here for, like, a month or 2 and just gonna live in as an Indian and and, you know, go all native and and then come back. But that's a lot of coordination. You know what I mean? That's
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That was the whole issue because, eventually I wanted to stay longer and I had the money to stay longer. Because when you're already there, the the the life is not that expensive. But I had to, I had to burn some bridges here, especially with my trailer. And, that was last last minute work. And I did it all by myself. So not only the the the selling, but also the, the movement. So I got 3 friends. One of them sits on a motorcycle on his way to New Zealand. The other one said last year, he said, well, you have different points of view about life, and I want And another friend of mine, he has 2 beautiful daughters, young girls.
He went through his back, so he he could pick up a screwdriver and give it to me. And that's that's a little bit that. So I had to break down everything. But, hey, it worked out. It took me about 2 strongs to get my back a little bit more back in shape because it was so fucked up. It was really fucked up. But, yes, everything has been so everything that I possess is now scattered all over 3 or 4 addresses. Yeah. And I'm I'm basically, I have the the stuff that I really need in my in my little car, which is, I think, one of the smallest car you can purchase from Volkswagen. But, hey, it's driving. I got my gear with me, and and now I got very lucky to, to have a good friend and a good boss that, provides me this awesome, awesome place to be here.
So, but I'm, yes. This is just for, occasionally for for for a few, you know, few few days or maybe a few strongs. But, eventually, I'm looking for a a room or a little apartment and stuff like that to, to get my shit done. And of course, 2025 is going to be a big year. Because I'm I'm I don't know how, but, I figured that out a few times. I'm go I'm coming back to America for sure. Yes.
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Well, let me know if you're somewhere close so we can see you or whatnot. Or I can sure. I can figure out a place for you to stay if you come through Utah for a day or 2 or whatever. You know? You are on the list.
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Alright. You're on the list.
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So if you look man. If you look to all of our all of our friends, shout them out. And all the chats, all the creators, you know, you all know who you are. There's so many now. How can we name them all? You know? It's like Shall we try? Shall we try? So we got Ben from Unchanged Brain.
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We got Davey Wavy from the Rat Pill Cartel podcast. We've got Stein, which is a Dutch guy with a beautiful English podcast, the Greyhorn Pagan podcast. Then we got Milton with, life is a dream, death is awakening. I love that motherfucker. Well, not a motherfucker. Probably a daddy fucker. Right? Inside joke, baby. So I think yes. These are the the content creators when it goes to podcasting. And, of course, we got some beautiful individuals that make everything happen. Like you, you are one of the philosophers in in our group that that, glues everything together with beautiful, beautiful writings and beautiful thoughts in your mind, together with Rob Sales and Mormon Rishi.
Joost, of course, my my favorite fanboy, our brother from the Netherlands here. He's gonna be on a podcast today with, Max, with the Mad Max, part 2. He's very excited about that. Probably he's gonna fly away in the night tonight. You know? That's right. And of course, the the thing that happens right now when the group and, we we can talk a little bit about it. But, we're combining our powers so we can make something very, very interesting and very big in 2025 to rock the fuck out of podcasting world. That's for sure.
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That's for sure. I like it. I hope it all comes together. I'm rooting for all y'all and, you know, whatever I can contribute, you know, I'm here.
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Well, if if you're just there, that that's that's that's one. Right? And to participate, that's number 2. So, Eric, if you look back to, well well, let let me say this. Today is, 27 December. For us, it's in the middle of mid winter. So we do not celebrate within 3 or 4 days, New Year's Eve. Yeah. I don't probably you don't either. Right? 1st April is normally, for me, my new year. But if you look back through this year for a lot of people that are listening to this podcast who think, what the fuck is he talk talking about? If you look back through this year, what, what is your biggest achievement this year?
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First off, it is the 27th December. That's my mother's birthday, so shout out to my mom. She's one of my biggest supporters. Congratulations. Okay. I love you. She'll she'll probably listen. She listens to most of my shows. My father's was, 8 days ago on 19th. He just turned 70. So 70 68. And what's awesome is they don't look like when we were kids, like, late sixties and 7 year olds, they don't. It's different. People are I don't know if we're finding our, youth again or something or the poisons aren't working like I planned, but they they don't look like the old decrepit white haired folks that were old when we were young. I don't know. Right. Oh, I just wanna shout them out. My biggest achievement. I think maybe getting over I mean, I still deal with a lot of crap. It's hard for me to just to let go. I have, you know, past traumas and just crap that's in my mind all the time, but being able to let go of that some more, I think being a little more present in the moment with my family and, really been working hard on my patients, not trying to get upset so easily and so quick, you know, because they're children. They don't know. It's my job to teach them not, you know, not punish them, but to teach them. And just being there and and and and sacrificing so much of my personal things that I I would like to do and and want yeah.
Interests for them, you know, and putting all my time into the into their growth and development, I would say, is probably my biggest achievement. Nice.
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And they they were champion. Right? Because you're coaching your, one of your daughter's team?
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Yeah. So my my oldest daughter well, they both played, my oldest daughter, she's been playing softball for a couple years now. She's 12. My youngest is 6. She played she played a summer softball and then a t ball league. But my oldest, yeah, she made an all star team this summer that I helped coach, and we won a couple tournaments. We won a state championship tournament and a couple other ones. And then she, substituted for, a com a competition, a competitive team, an advanced team, and they just asked her to join the team. So now she's had a few practices with them. She's on that new team. So I'm excited for this next spring and summer to to be in this higher competitive level to see how that go.
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Wow. She's kicking butt. Yes. And and Go and of course, with with the achievements, also some some stuff that's that's, a little bit negative. Did this year, I thought that, dear, it was your uncle that passed away with with the music. My grandfather. Your your grandfather. Wow. Yeah. And, I was listening to his music. Dude, that that that guy, Rock Tom, man.
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That's so and it's so Oh, that song. Oh, that song I posted. No. That was okay. That was my grandfather did pass on this year. He was 98, so shout out to gramps. He he kicked ass. But, no, that song I posted was was my dad's really good friend, Brad Bateman. I'll shout him out. RIP. He, yeah, he was like an uncle to me growing up. He had they put a little band together and he, you know, he got frustrated that how hard it is in the music industry and stuff, and and he's just really he was just the coolest guy, like, such a badass downhill snow skier and the most amazing water skier. And so, at work, I have my old Ipod hooked into a little radio that I play every once in a while when I'm bored of other stuff. And so I have a couple of his songs on there, and that one just popped in that day, and I was getting all emotional. I was like, I gotta share this with the group and Yeah. You know, get it out there. Let them hear his you know, because he has, you know, some cool songs and yeah, it's just yeah. He was cool. Yeah. Yeah. I felt bad.
This, you know, dealing with death, it's it's a hard thing for a lot of people. And so this was the first, Christmas, you know, like I said, my my father's father just passed away, and my stepmother, his wife, her father passed away, like, literally 2 months later. So this was their first Christmas without their fathers. Oh. Both of the mothers had previously passed, but now both parents and so I could tell they're having a rough time. And so my friend, that song I posted, when his parents died, he really couldn't handle it.
And he was he was deep into a lot of the conspiracy stuff that we are too. That's that's why it's another bummer he's not around because he would be in the group getting down probably too. You know what I mean? Right. And he'd be 70 now. And yeah. So it was just really rough. Every time I'd see him, I try and try and tell him, like, come on. You need to come back up sometimes in the winter, and let's go ski it, and let's go, you know, let's do some stuff because he was like that cool uncle as a kid. You know, like I said, such a awesome athlete.
You know? And he he would smoke weed and shit. You know? So when I was a older man in our twenties and we'd, you know, smoke wood and stuff, he was just a cool guy. You know? And so yeah. It was a it was a sad loss and, you know, I've had a quite a few I mean, everyone, we all have, and I just try to I think about them all the time, almost every day. All my you know, because his was his was the suicide, and I've had a bunch of I've had, you know, I've had probably 10 or more from that. And Wow. Ben brings up all the time all the veterans, like, what, 22 a day? It's just it's such a sad thing, and it's I don't know I don't know if it's natural or not or if it's something of the system that we're placed in that they've created that people find it so hard and that's such an easy exit. I know I know, like, in the ancient samurai culture, it was, you know, death before dishonor, so they would sometimes commit suicide because it would be better than dying in a crappy way in their eyes, I guess. But, yeah, suicide, it's a tough it's a tough thing, and and I've had quite a few, and I remember them all the time, and I just try to when they pop in my mind, you know, say their name out loud and and give them positive vibes, let them know I'm thinking about them, and, you know, and keep them keep them alive. You know? Yes. They're still
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yeah. They're still in here. You know? I think I think that's the that's the the best thing you can do. Think about them. That's the energy that connects to you with with them. And then that keeps them alive. That's that's right. And, shouting out their names. Yes. And they're the the thing is it's I was talking to a friend the other day. He's a he's an Aquarius too, and he has a a great philosophy and a great, look at the world. And he said, you know, we can blame a lot about the system, but if you if you really know how the system works, we know that a lot of things are rigged and a lot of things are are stupid or fucked up. And it's too it's too amateuristic what they try to do even with the with the with the host of the of the moon landing. So he said, I really like that. It's like, what if they want you to know that everything is fake? So they give you, like, a big, what what's it called? What is this called in the Not a wink.
Yeah. Not a wink. Just like boo. You know? And if you look at that, that doesn't mean that if you come back from from battle and you saw some horrendous things and saw some of your bodies dying and stuff like that, or maybe when you realize when you come back that nobody gives a shit about you, especially the system where you fought for their freedom, for all these corrupt idiots. Damn. I think that's a very hard pill to swallow, to be honest with you. And, when there's no one well, you know, okay. When you're going on the train station or on a bus, they say, thank you for your service. That's not gonna cut it. You know, that's not gonna pay your bills. You you ain't you know, it's not that if you have 100 blessings that all your pain goes away or all your trauma.
And I think that's that's that's really hard for a lot of people.
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And and the the purpose aspect too. I think I think it was for mental Raul who had his buddy on. It was a a returning vet, and he said it was the purpose, like, you know, when you're when you're deployed and you're enlisted, you have a title, a job, a purpose, a duty. You know, you know what you need to do, and then you get back, and you you're kinda lost, and you don't fit in. And and, you know, the condition you know, they've trained you to be a soldier. They've brainwashed you, basically. Not I mean, that's kind of a crappy word, but they've trained you. They programmed you to think and look at things a certain way and to deal with things a certain way.
And that's for the battlefield, not for society. Mhmm. You know what I mean? And when you don't have a maybe a a reprogramming or a deprogramming to help them, you know, come back, that that makes a big thing. And and they might have them, and they might not wanna do them just for a ego or pride reason, like, oh, I don't need that. And then also finding them jobs or duties or purposes to fulfill to, you know, to help society. You know what I mean? There's a million security positions and different things and, you know, that they could be or even even something that's complete opposite of that. Like, a lot of them might if they don't wanna be in that battle mode anymore, you know, because some guys love it and are addicted to it, and some guys just wanna get away from it.
Help them out with being a farmer. You know what I mean? A trail guide, you know, a a park ranger in nature. You know what I mean? Something that they could find peace where it's not they have to deal with so many people in that stressful environment that triggers them or you know what I mean? Right.
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What about if you look at the news, a lot of people do, and you see that everything is so fucking rigged that everything you fought for in that country is manipulated on the news. And you have a completely different point of view of reality when you were there about the people, about the the country, about your your service, and all that stuff. You know? And then you come back, and and everyone is gonna tell you that, these bad people, and they they do that, and they do you know, that fucks around with your mind, man. And and just like you said, you know, if you are in the mental ward or you are imprisoned, you have some, reintegration programs to get back into society.
And, if you deployed on I I I don't know. I'm just rambling. But I think if you deployed as an American soldier, you come back. It's just like, okay. You're back. Well, you got some money in your pocket, and, good luck. You know?
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It's funny. I've I've, you know, I've known a few people that have gone to prison as well, and it's almost like you have a easier time getting back into society from going to prison than going in the military. Like, almost everyone a lot of the people I know that went to prison and came out are successful and doing well, have turned their lives around and and are really kicking ass. And I know so many people that came out of the military, they're struggling, and it's how fucked up is that? Like
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It's it's unbelievable.
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Yeah.
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And I think, especially if you if you go to, to the military with the purpose to help to free the country or to help, basically to defend your own country, and you see how rigged the game is. I mean, I have a big problem with authority. So, when someone tells me what I have to do, I'm going to be on error. You know? I, me come you. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, okay. Sit down, motherfucker. I'm the fucking king. So who the fuck are you?
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I have that on there. You could send a People going in. Think about, like, 911, just one case. How many people they said the recruiting offices were just you know, because everyone they they get hit with this event, and they're told it's one thing, and and the enlistment numbers were down because of the previous Iraq war and what was going on and people like, why are we over here? This isn't defending our freedom. This isn't what I signed up for. And then you have this event and they think it's, oh, now we gotta go get these bad guys. And then they go through this hell for years. You know what I mean? There were 20 years in Afghanistan after that.
And then while you're there or when you come back, you realize all this new information and data that possibly wasn't at all what you thought it was and why you signed up for, and you watched all these people die and all this havoc and wreckage. How does that mess with your mind? Right?
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Or when you wake up and all of a sudden you got from orders from above, like, we're going. What the fuck do you mean? Yeah. We're going. Take your bags. Plane is gonna land, 5 PM or whatever the fuck, and you're going back home. What do you mean, officer? You know? Yeah. We're going back home. We'll leave everything behind. Just like how. Yeah. Why? Yes. And why? That's the I think that really messes with your head. I think it will be the same issue if people are realizing, let's call them normies or, you know, whatever the fuck.
If they realize like, oh, shit, these guys that are, the conspiracy, whatever, you know, are been telling the truth. Yeah. And we do not know. You know, a lot of things, there's some there's not like a real concrete fact that you can say, well, this is the shape of the earth. You know? That the okay. There are some implications that you could say, oh, for me, it's a little bit more my plausible, truth will be on flat or on globe. You know? William Duffy, I had him in my podcast. He was telling about the, 24 hour sun. So I told him what you're gonna prove with the CGI or whatever they they did is that there's a 24 hour sun.
That's it. You you're not gonna prove the the the shape of the Earth. The only thing you could do is, you know, make a rocket that's better built than, Jeff Bezos' dick and and better built than Elon Musk's dig that been flying into space for 65 kilometers. Well, you still miss 238 something miles, thousand to go to the moon. So let's say if you can go 10,000 kilometers up, probably you could see a little bit of the the shape of the Earth. But until then, you know, it's just like you against me with an with an argument and and and with discussion and and with the conversation probably, but that's it.
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Yeah. My wife don't give me shit, you know, about the the flat earth stuff, you know. You guys are just arguing over shit you can never prove, and I'm like, it's not about that. It's it's still it's just about the exchange of ideas. We see holes. There's plenty of holes in the helocentric model. There's plenty of holes in the flat earth model. There's plenty of holes in the hollow earth model. We're trying to expose as many holes to try and find whatever the truth could possibly be. You know? Yeah. Like I said, until we can get that high, we're never gonna know. And anything that's gone that high hasn't shown any curvature so far. And like you said, the exposure of a 24 hour sun in this one particular area doesn't expose the shape.
That just expose is that, and and it doesn't expose that. It could still be the same sun going around in a circle on the flat earth model, and it's that's just what you're seeing. It doesn't and it could expose that it's on the globe model. It was funny, and that how they how it was all themed to the final experiment. There is no final experiment. Not on how science works. Okay. This group of people went to this part of Antarctica. The the normal parts you can go to. Right? Where did they go? Rothschild or Deception Island? The normal parts where everyone can go? Yes. No. They went to a restricted zone. Nope. They went off of the south tip of South America. They didn't go off of New Zealand or Australia or off of Africa or off of Russia or China or India. They went to the same place everyone goes. You want the final experiment would be going to, like, 20 more other places and seeing if you get the same results because that's what scientists are doing it again and getting the same results. You've only done this thing one time and you know what I mean? It doesn't it it proved I don't know if it proved anything because we don't know if it was true or not. That's that's the thing.
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The the funny thing also, and and it's really fascinates me is if you see the sun as they saw for 24 hours, where the hell is the sun from Africa that gives you a lot of warmth, which is the same size? The sun in South Africa, South America. Where's the sun from Sweden, which is basically on the other side of a globe or Australia? I mean, if that could be the same sun. Well, maybe they they prove that there is a sun in Antarctica. But you can't tell me that this sun is the same sun as we see here, or that I experienced in Peru or that has been there in Australia. That makes no sense to me at all.
[00:30:39] Unknown:
Here's the thing too. So I've been fortunate enough to go up above the Arctic Circle in the north, in Lapland up in Finland. I went up to the they have the I can't it starts like a r. It's a weird name where they have the Santa Claus workshop and stuff. Right. And I was up there in the summer. This was in July, and we had it almost a 24 hour sun. It would, like, dip below the horizon for, like, 2 hours, but it wouldn't get dark. And but there was no snow. I understand that Antarctica is the highest elevation, but the reason it's there's no sun in the wintertime for the north, you know, and it and it works out on both that's what I'm saying. It works out on both a heliocentric model and a geocentric model.
But in the summertime in up there in the north, there's no snow. Then in the wintertime when the sun only comes out for a couple hours, there's snow. So I sent, the one video, one of the first ones that posted. I sent it to Alex. I said, hey. Have you seen this yet? And he's like, no. But check this out. Here's my coordinates in the north, and here's the almost exact opposite coordinates in South America. Now at my time in the summer of this year, I'm only getting this many hours of darkness. You know? Right now, they're getting twice as many hours of darkness. Shouldn't they be having the same effect if it's a globe? And And I was like, wow. That's a very interesting point. You know? That's not. You know, there there's it's weird how it never works out. Either way, it's so you know what I mean? I just it's
[00:32:10] Unknown:
Especially when it's when it's, an organized trip from a from a millionaire, which was actually, he was millionaire at the age of 33. Wow. Oh. And he said as a as a minister, as a priest, or what is it called? He said, it's okay to lie. Yeah. What? What? What? You know, Duffy, I'll call you out, man. Let's get into a conversation.
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You Well, it's weird. You know, he's a minister. Right? So that means he went to bible school and learned how to study it and preach it a certain way. And I don't know if you saw that one. I I shared a video the other day of these guys discussing it. And the guy in the video, he went to the same bible school, and he said, what they teach you is to see it from, I think, believe it's Paul's point of view, which Paul never even met Jesus. Never was you know, he was around years later Uh-huh. And went and was kind of the Vatican's boy, you know, the Roman Catholic boy to help spread their style. And what he preaches is not the word of Jesus. And so the whole church and all the pastors and all these people spreading this religion are preaching it from this point of view that's not their idle savior's point of view. Uh-huh. How does that make any sense?
[00:33:35] Unknown:
Oh, is is on my end that the data is a little bit stuck? I have a You're fine on my end. Everything's Okay. Yeah. Well, well, you you it was just a a a glimpse because sometimes my my my data is is not working because I'm streaming my data from a cell phone to to my computer. But now now you're fine. But it's it's really, fascinating that, I call him out on my podcast. Like, okay. So you're minister. What's been written down in Genesis? I mean, one of the first pages of the whole book says something. So you don't believe in that? So how could you be a minister of something that you don't believe? Yeah. Could you question the the name of whatever? You know?
That's it.
[00:34:21] Unknown:
I mean Like, I'm not even a Christian, but the the the who was it that had that big debate in the tent where they got all ugly?
[00:34:28] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:34:31] Unknown:
Yeah. And, it's like your book that you're selling, that you're worshiping, that you're preaching from pretty much says that it isn't a heliocentric model. So how, as a person who represents that, can you go against it? You know, that's a contra huge contradiction.
[00:34:50] Unknown:
Yes. The but that's the perfect franchise stuff because it's like flipping Wendy's burgers with, a lot of other ingredients, but you still can call it Wendy's and you can make money out of it. Oh, Rob. Don't say something like that. That's very controversial. But it's like a commercial. Right? It's like, okay. We got you know, if you if you if you got oh, man. It's it's so, fascinating to me how it's really easy to make things like that go. And then and a lot of people, especially in America, because we got some, stations here that we can see on a TV, you know, like 100, whatever the fuck, stations. Also, the priests on TV, they look evil as fuck, fly around in planes, drive a Rolls Royce, and they're preaching for God.
[00:35:41] Unknown:
And they got that collection plate. Dude, give them that money for God. Oh, man. Let's let's go. Money what does God need money for? I don't.
[00:35:53] Unknown:
I need my my immune. Oh, this is this yes. Alright. My last my last 2. So I also Shout out to another.
[00:36:02] Unknown:
King now. He's he's killing it too. I gotta get some of that stuff. Shout out to.
[00:36:07] Unknown:
Definitely. Because this will be my 60 60th day. So I I purchased a new one, and I really I I can't tell you about Aloe Vera. For me, it really works. I I'm more pumped up. I'm I'm having more, of less issues with my, with my back. So I I destroyed my back with going into a cellar with heavy, heavy crates up to an attic and all by myself, putting it in a car, all that stuff. You know? I'm probably thousands of kilograms that I did by myself. So that that screw my back up because my back is not that good. But I popped 2 or 3 of these in the evening.
And in the morning was like, okay. That's not too bad. Be careful a little bit. But, also, my, my energy my energy level is very high, man. Very, very high. Awesome. Yeah. And I want to chase more of this, of of Aloe Vera, but, I just have to figure out how how to do it. And, yes, King Bao, if you're listening, I would love to have you on my show. And, I think, it's very good to see, especially nowadays, that there are companies that working in for the benefit of our health with proven facts and not like, okay, we got a green leaf on a on a packaging, which has been bought by some big companies, and they give you crap with sugar, but there's a green green leaf on it, so it would be bio.
No. No. Get the real stuff, man.
[00:37:50] Unknown:
Well, and I work for a company, Vox Nutrition. So and they make a bunch of different products. You know, everything from protein powder to, prenatal vitamins, all, you know, every all sorts of different supplements. Well, they have their own mixtures that they make, and then, you know, 20 different companies buy that, put their own label on it. It's the same shit. It's the same shit, different label. Meaning, you can you can go in there and and say, okay. I want this multivitamin, then please add some of this to it. You know, you can make a custom mixture for more money. Right. Right? But it's still it's all coming from the same place, the same vats, the same someone else will buy be able to buy that mixture too and put their label on it. You know? So, like, watch the guys, I would receive in all the products from all over the world, the different ashwagandha and and citru citrulline and all the different things and and, then they'd the guys would come and get all the different ingredients, go in there, mix it up, and then it go to the next room and it get it it'll get put into a a jug for, like, protein powder or capsulated for pills. And then then all the bottles would come out after bottling, and it go to labeling, and then this many that for this company, that many for that, and it's all the same thing. Just so and as we work there, we could just buy the non label stuff.
[00:39:06] Unknown:
Oh, that's good. Ashby Wanda is so powerful also that because you mentioned it. They they told me in Peru to to to have some, and you put it on your eyes, the stuff that they have, they put it on your eyes. You're gonna trip your balls off, but your sight will be better. But, because I only have one and a half day because I, before I flew back, I flew back. So I had something like, oh, maybe this is not the the best thing to do right now, you know, going to the airport. But
[00:39:39] Unknown:
Get your eyes off.
[00:39:41] Unknown:
Yes. Or not. You you know, just like, oh, shit. But did you hear the story of the stick? The stick? Yes. So I was in Peru and, normally I walk with the stick, you know? Yeah. But you know, you can't bring your stick in a fucking plane. You don't do that. You did there's no way. You gotta have a medical license to bring a crane or whatever in in in a plane. So I was walking around. I think it was the second day when we were on the, in the in the community. And I said, oh, man. I just need a stick because I had to go very steep uphill to my tambo. And when it rained, it was really slippery. And I was walking bare feet, because that's better than than having your shoes totally with mud flooded and stuff like that. So, I asked for a stick and there he was. He was there on the roadside or on a on a on a path. I took the stick and I, walk with it for almost 2 strongs.
Nice. But I was so attached to my stick. So I said, I wanna bring it, with me to the Netherlands. How do how you gonna do that with the stick in a plane? This is normal. It's a no go. So what I did, I carved some
[00:40:57] Unknown:
sorry? How much would the shipping be to ship it? Oh,
[00:41:03] Unknown:
the the the the 50, €60, minimum. If it's if it's gonna be there, no. It's just no way to do that. So what I did is, I pretended to be a cripple. And I walked to Equitos crippled. And then, this lady, she, she was telling me some stuff in in in Spanish. And I said, no no So she, she translate then. She said, special assistance. So I said, oh, shit. Now I have to drop my pants, and they're gonna search me for drugs or whatever the fuck. You know? But then all of a sudden someone with a wheelchair came, and he put it on my ass. So just like, what the fuck? So I was sitting there with my stick. So, okay. What now? So they drive you through the, to the terminal.
Yeah. And they they put you right in front of the gate. So I was sitting there. Priority lane is next to me. First task is next to me. I was sitting there with my stick just like, okay. Just pretend to be a fucking crip, Rob. That's all you gotta do. Now comes the fun part. So I this happened two times because my first flight was canceled. So I got back, but I rolled back with my wheelchair. Then all of a sudden, one of the stewards came and helped me, and and put me on the desk. Blah blah blah. 2nd time, same thing was on front. They call out, like, gates are open. All of a sudden, I feel movement, and I look up. And in the back, there was this steward driving me completely alone as the first one who enters the fucking plane.
I thought this is gonna be a good trip. So I put my stake aside. I was normally, I should had 4, transfers, but only had 3. So I was flying to, what's what's what's the what? Oh, to, to Brazil, Sao Paulo, Sao Paulo, Madrid Madrid, Dusseldorf. And all of them air, air, air, air, air, air, airplanes. No. And other airports, I did this trick.
[00:43:12] Unknown:
That's awesome. So did you get it home? Yes.
[00:43:15] Unknown:
Nice. And as I was, getting my stick in the plane from, from Spain to Germany. This old lady comes up to me. She said, why do you wearing a stick? And I thought, oh, fuck. Now, I'm busted. So I said, for walking? Okay. So but when I entered the airport, I was thinking about this, movie with Kevin Spacey, like the usual suspects when he walks out to the, police office that he just walks normal. And I'm gonna pull this trick off too. So they were standing a lot of, police and all that stuff, you know, because you have an international flight from whatever the fuck or they were looking for some terrorists. And here came Rob with the steak. Hey, guys. Good good day.
But I got it. Yes. Yes. Ultimate souvenir. Ultimate souvenir. Yes. That that and it's something like if you work with wood I love wood. Somehow, if you if you're feeling that the the feeling that it's gonna get when you are grounding all the time, the warmth that it's gonna I love sticks. I love sticks. So that's been sad. Dude, you have trimmed your beard so good. Yeah. Milton says I look better, but I you know? Because I don't know.
[00:44:38] Unknown:
My wife likes it better too. She she doesn't like the big wild man, but I love it. I miss it. Oh, okay. I like looking like a werewolf.
[00:44:49] Unknown:
Have you met built in in in personal? Yes. Right? Not yet. Not yet. No. Not yet. Oh.
[00:44:55] Unknown:
We've we've been trying to coordinate. So I told him because he wants me to go out there, and I just don't have my father was talking about maybe doing a trip, like a family trip to San Diego next year, but I don't know if that's gonna happen or not. And I was like, oh, if we do that trip, dude, that's only an hour drive. We can meet up anywhere for a day or 2 or go to the beach or whatever. And then, I don't know. So I'm not completely planning on that, and then he of course, he wants me to just come and stay where you guys did and hang out. And I was like, it's just I don't it's just a far trip for my family and stuff where I was like, we could meet in the middle because, if he went to Vegas, there's another place an hour, like, north of Vegas, called Mesquite.
And small town, like, 3 little casinos and whatever. And my dad has property down by there, and so it's kind of the same distance. We each have to go, like, 5 hours. I'm all then we could hang out and I could take him out in the desert on the 4 wheelers, you know, go shoot some guns, whatever, you know, hang out and sit by the campfire, have a, you know, not have a nice tour relaxing under the stars. Right. Hang it. You're gonna go not not a big city. You know what I mean? Yeah. Something new for him, easier for me. It would just be, I think, easier and cheaper for both of us, maybe. I don't know. Mhmm. So we've been trying to coordinate something like that.
[00:46:20] Unknown:
Oh, man. The the I think that's, that that really pumped my, everything. When when when he he he was arranging this, okay, just come to LA. Just like, what? Yeah. Come to LA. And, the bond you get with with all the people. And, yeah, some of them, of of course, things happen. And and, everyone has his own personality, his own individual, like, train of thought and stuff like that. And that it's not always the the the easiest way, to be honest with you. I I was feeling like, yeah, a little bit the devil in the the devil in the stack. You know, the joker in the stack will also live with the devil in the stack. But, yeah, great friendships. And, eventually, I think when you are, having all these people together and that gives you such such a, a bond, you can't do that online virtual. Because even now, we we have the urge in the group that we are now to hang around with each other in real life once. Meet 100%. You know, just to get that feeling going to, to see each other, to hug each other, hug the fuck out of each other and, you know, look each other right in the eyes and, and do some crazy stuff. And I'm I'm I'm sure it's gonna happen for 2025.
That's, otherwise, I have to call, Greg, the the doctor, about numerology and say you you you were talking shit. And I think he he isn't. I think he isn't. So, yeah. Let's make things happening, man. So Yeah. The first hug always makes a difference. Right? Yes. Yes. What's, what's your favorite, what's your favorite conspiracy?
[00:48:19] Unknown:
I don't know. Right now, I I'm enjoying, just the, the presidential one, how they're all connected and how I you know, it's just a game, you know, 2 wings of the same bird, and I just it's it's such a interesting one, but at the same time, it'll be such a letdown, you know, because right now here, it's, you know, the Trump people won and their savior is about to come in and they just both sides do this. They they just ignore all the signs. Like, I I had a discussion with my friend the other day. He was at so he contacts me and asks me kinda what I think about what's going on, so I let him know. And then he kinda gets upset with my answer. Not okay. We have disagreements. We think different on different things, which is fine. Right. And I'm like, well, dude, you contacted me and asked me. I'm just telling you what I think. You can't be upset that I don't think the same as you.
And he's trying to he's trying to sell me of that that that Trump's a a bigger demon than Biden. I'm going, Trump's been around in the political game for a few years. Biden's been in there longer than I've been alive and doing nothing good. All the shit shit's done. All the shit he's done is bad. And I'm going, so how can his 4 years of presidency, what did he do that was good erase his previous 40 years of of nastiness, like, of, like, a corrupt, you know, shit hole. And I was like, yeah. And Trump didn't really do anything in his 4 years, and they blame it on, oh, he didn't know. He he put the wrong people around him. Well, now he's saying this is gonna be my secretary of this. This is gonna be this. None of these people are good people. They're still all the swamp that he said he's gonna drain, and they're still all warmongering, you know, Zionist. It's just like, I don't know.
It's like you guys don't have an excuse this time. So when it when he's not your savior and it doesn't work out for our better, what is it then? You know, are we us conspiracy guys, it's that's an I told you so. We don't want we don't look into conspiracies because we wanna be right. We look into them because, one, it's it's mind stimulating and it's and it's fun and it's crazy and scary, but also because, like, hey, these are questions you should ask and these are things you should look at. And when you, intentionally ignore them, be ignorant. That's terrible for everyone. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. No. No. That's, you know, the the project blue beam stuff, like, you know, all these drones they got flying around is pretty hilarious. It's not it's just kind of dumb to me, like, it's obvious, you know, oh, they don't shoot any of them down, blah blah blah. They're overall the military bases because that's where they're being launched from. It's their Right. Don't shoot your own shit.
They're testing out some new shit. If it wasn't theirs, believe me, they'd be shooting it down. Like
[00:51:16] Unknown:
Yes. Oh, but that's that's the philosophy that that, that the friend of mine has. Like, they they put it so in plain sight, so amateuristic, like a c movie, not not even a b movie. Like, look, we're we're a clumsy clown comes in, and don't you see it? It you really do not see it? You don't question this kind of stuff. Then you're fucked because we have more to play. But if you see it just like, oh, come on. Come on. Because just like you said, it's the same bird with the of, a different wing of the same bird. But in the end, how many times do you really have to deal with it if you do not listening to the radio, you do not look at Internet, You do not look at TV.
My life is fucking fine, man. I can I mean,
[00:52:15] Unknown:
if you don't see it There's some people here that do, so, you know, they they there's, you know, the new bull crap they're spreading now is the bird flu? And I posted a thing about this way back at the beginning of the year because one of the farms in Texas or some shit oh, 33 cases just like just like our shit in 2020. Oh, 33 cases everywhere. It was 33, 33. So then so I posted a thing about it. You know it's fake because here we got 33 cases. So now, the new angle of it is the first person contracted it in Louisiana. It went from a, you know, it went from the the livestock to a person, you know, and they've been here, they've been killing tons of livestock over this crap. You know, they're they're completely messing with the food supply.
And so they don't tell you how old this person is, the same things. The person didn't die, and they didn't tell you what other ailments they have. You know what I mean? They got this person's, like, 70 something with all these, you know, things they got issued. It's like, come on. But since that happened, of course, the the California governor, that Newsome retard, he's been messing with a bunch of their stuff. Like so it doesn't affect us, but it's over there, I guess, if in your certain areas, you know, there's been, you can't get milk and you can't get certain things and things have skyrocketed in prices and stuff. Mhmm. And so it's just you know, I thank my lucky stars. I have somewhat of a self sufficiency.
And I think, like you said earlier, with the the wink wink, they they're showing it to everybody. I think they're testing it now to where look. We've been doing this for so long, and so many people don't see it whereas more and more and more starting to see it. What's it gonna take to get them to react? Mhmm. Or will they even react?
[00:54:10] Unknown:
Right.
[00:54:12] Unknown:
Will they even you know? And they want us to react in a negative violent way because they would rather us mad max kill each other off for them instead of peacefully walking away and creating our parallel system that they have no control over.
[00:54:27] Unknown:
To where they would That's the question. Yeah. Or do they wanna see it show you in plain sight so you can eventually leave that shit behind and purchase the better version of yourself and get into the higher frequency if you let lose all that shit? Because that's, of course, another question. Like, oh, they're killing everyone. Well, I haven't seen anyone killed. Of course, people die. You know, that's that's one of the things when when you wake up, you have to realize, okay. I'm still there, but people around me could eventually not wake up or or, you know, be killed or whatever. But and it made me think it it was a such a great conversation because he has such, great mind. Also a guy who doesn't look at TV and the all the TV. What the fuck is that? I'm not gonna look at a black mirror. But, he had some great points about that. Like, okay.
You know, if I if I have a door, a normal door, and I put a sign on it, freshly paint, how many people would treat that door completely different? You know, that's the whole fucking thing. You know? Nothing happened to the door. Yes. And then just we have to do this in the show because otherwise, I don't know what they what what what whatever they're gonna do. Right? So but 666 and then 333. Oh, daddy. Oh, Freemasons. I'm gonna clip that. And the funny thing is that he said is, like, okay. So what if you really know what's left, right, what's bullshit, or whatnot? And then you come home and some people are lined up with some white, gloves with with the Masonic stuff on. So so it's an, inauguration for to get to the highest level because you see all the bullshit.
And then it all fades away. You're working on your higher self. Then you achieved the 33, you know, the the master step. Like, okay. You figure it out. Now you can go to the next. What about that? So I was thinking, like, that's so fucking great to think and on a completely different level. And, oh, they wanna kill us. Oh, no. No. It's just like
[00:56:47] Unknown:
Yeah. So Davy made a great, I don't know, analogy or whatever. He said, you know, the when he was when he was going into the bible, one of the dreams he had and what what someone said to him, you know, the book either will set you free or imprison you. So all this shit they're doing can either wake you up and set you free to where you'll be your savior and work on yourself and get your shit together or imprison you into their digital prison. And then here's the thing too, like, you're just saying, are they seeing who is intelligent and who is a dumb sheep, who will just be the slave, follow the instructions, or who will question it and has the the mental capacity to understand and break free. So maybe, like you're saying, on a positive note, because everything that's always gets put on a a negative evil blanket.
And, yes, some of it is and some of it how many stupid people do you meet in life? Some shit just happens because they're stupid. That's no nefarious and they're just stupid and make a mistake. But, anyway, so what if, yeah, they come in and they they see all these people like us, for instance, that are rep showing this higher level of intelligence questioning it, trying to figure out solutions. These are the people we want. They're gonna round us up and throw us in a prison. That's just the next stage. Can you survive here for a minute and show us that you can keep that mentality while you're locked up here? While we get rid of all the sheep out here, while we call the herd, and then bring you back in to repopulate a more better intelligent next level way of life or who knows? Like, I mean, there's so many ways to look at it. You have to be open to it can't you know what I mean? It could go it could be the opposite of what we're seeing because so much is already. Right? Exactly.
[00:58:41] Unknown:
And and to be honest with you, if you if you talk about conspiracies, there's always this this, oh, satanic and and what you know, whatever the fuck. And it keeps you on a low balance. It's it's like the root chakra has been filled with fear and, oh, what about this? And if you look at it in a different way so, you know, maybe that's the whole thing. You know? People were telling about satanic stuff. And all of a sudden, all concerts have been satanic, like, right in the eye. Just like, okay. You want that? Because we create the reality with our set with our own brains. You know, when I open up my eyes and the things that I think go in the ether, and then I create my own reality. So when I'm thinking about satanic stuff or rituals or whatever the fuck, okay, Dave got it. You know? Yeah.
And the the the the fascinating thing is, like, every program has been has been broadcasted right now on TV. But on what program have you been digged into? And if you look at a lot of, movies where they recruit people, They go through this recruit program and all of a sudden you don't know if it's real or not. From Jason Bourne, especially that he has to shoot this guy and then he shot it or not. I can't remember, but then that's also part of the program. So did you stick to the program about your belief system, or did you did you now faded away with your belief system? So that's a good I think it's a very good question to think about that.
[01:00:18] Unknown:
You know, they talk about what you know that the deep population. They talk about the deep population. Why would they wanna depopulate the intelligent people?
[01:00:28] Unknown:
Right? Why would they Would you would you be around with 500,000,000
[01:00:32] Unknown:
stupid people? I mean, I guess if that you really are that psycho and you just want that many slaves, I guess. That could be one angle. But on the other angle too, you're gonna have to to repopulate or have the continuation of humanity. So you're gonna want this it's like the idiocracy where now they talk about when you know that deep population. They talk about the deep population. Why would they wanna depopulate the intelligent people? Right? Would
[01:01:04] Unknown:
you would you be around with 500,000,000
[01:01:06] Unknown:
stupid people? I mean, I guess if that you really are that psycho and you just want that many slaves, I guess, that could be one angle. But on the other angle too, you're gonna have to to repopulate or have the continuation of humanity. So you're gonna want this it's like the idiocracy where the smart people stop breeding and the dumb people kept breeding, and then they obviously don't want that to happen. So I don't know. It's just and, like, the the predictive programming they talk about in the movies. So many people don't even see that. They don't even they're not even aware of it. So we went to for my daughter's birthday, she wanted to go see the new Wicked movie.
And it's about the creation of the Wicked Witch from Wizard of Oz and stuff. How she was born, how she got labeled wicked when she's actually the good one. You know, it's all backwards. Uh-huh. And I'm watching the movie, and I see all this shit now because I watch stuff different. You know what I mean? There's you got one of the main supporting people is a super, you know, flaming way feminist gay person, you know, like, you know, purse coming out of his mouth, you know, over exaggerated where it's like, yes, there are some gay people like that, but not the majority. Mhmm. You know what I mean? It's just like the stereotype of all that all throughout the nineties of the black ghetto movies. All these people they tried to create this culture, they manufactured. This is what black people from the hood are like. It's like, no, they're not. Yes. Some people that buy into that shit act that way. And a you know what? A whole shit ton of fucking stupid little white boys trying to fucking be Right. People do the same thing. So nothing you know, it's a it was a a narrative they they created and tried to push and it worked. So I'm watching this film and they got a bunch of it's like at a the school they go to. It's like a like one of those private schools or a preparatory school where you wear a uniform.
Well so they got some of the dudes that wearing pants and, like, a half of a girl skirt because the girls would wear, like, a Catholic school, the skirt, and the guys would wear pants. Right. So you got no one wearing the they got the pants on, but then they have, like, a half of a skirt on. And it's like, what is this trying to represent? What are they trying to say with this? Like, is this person non binary, bi, gay? Like because I don't recall any of the dudes wearing a full skirt, but I remember a bunch of them wearing and you couldn't tell if they were straight or gay. Like, it was it was almost you know, so I was like so I brought it up after the movie with anyone. No. Not one person in our group even noticed it, especially the kids didn't even didn't even register in their mind. Wow. You know what I mean? So it's like is that how they do it? Is it it is it subliminal? So, like, in a couple years when they try to introduce that, it will be normal, and they won't even know to question it or where it came from. So it was just I find it funny. I've I've watched a couple things we've watched recently. I'll see some things and I'll bring it up and no one even sees it that way or, you know, have I been programmed through this last 20, 30 of of blowing up conspiracies to see shit in a a way where I'm where I'm disconnecting myself from people.
[01:04:20] Unknown:
Yes. And what what does it bring us? Yeah. When we talk when we keep on talking about the same stuff, like, okay. Oh, I have a conspiracy podcast. Well, then then, well, 10 episodes in, I'm done. You know? Because everyone has a different point of view about the same bullshit. But I wanna get in a conversation and talk about thing things like Wicked. If you have that in the mirror, it's Mickey. It's Disney. Yeah. Yeah. It just like, oh. And and, of course, that and again, it's hide in plain sight. So, you know? Yeah. It's it's really there. But is it something, like, to make you aware, like, oh, this is another stupid stuff, so keep away from it?
Or is it something, like, you can bite on, like, conspiracy and ramble on, whatever channel that you want on social media. Oh, you you seen this? Well, it's the same fucking negative energy. Yeah. No. If you don't see it or you see it and and especially about the shape of the earth. We're on it, and we can't get off. That's a fact. You know, that that that's something that we should think about. Like, okay. I'll I'll be getting drunk. And I don't care if it's a if it's a glass, if it's a cup, if it's a bottle, I'm gonna get drunk. That's a fact. And, it it how I pour it, it would it, you know, drench the tampon and and and and and put it out your ass. You're gonna get drunk. You know? Oh, yeah. It doesn't matter.
Oh, oh, so, and what's your, what's your oh, yeah. Let's say that. What's your most wicked, let's say, conspiracy?
[01:06:05] Unknown:
Wicked? I don't know. I won't see. I mean, it's hard. It's like, they wanna the you know, all fingers are pointing to a certain group of people that are supposedly in control of the world and, you know, are trying to you know, that look at all of us as Goyam and and less than an animal, and it's okay to to rape children to a certain age. And, they wanna you know, like I said, they we're not on their human level, so it's okay to do whatever to us. That one's pretty wicked, but is it true or not? I mean, they they do say they are the chosen people. They do give us the 3 Abrahamic, versions of religion, and it seems to be that that they control them and they they direct them to achieve their goals.
I don't you know, if you look at it that way, it is pretty wicked. I mean, it's pretty evil. What but is any of it true? Like, that's the thing, you know, like, you we can look at it as wicked, you know. Right. And then, you know, obviously, they want us to know that aliens exist before we'll know anybody off of Epstein's list or Diddy's list, and and it's like, you know, I was I I blew my my stepfather's mind on Christmas because he said something about it, and I said, well, is Epstein even dead? And he hadn't he hadn't even thought about that. He was like, my he could just be on another island. That's all He lists. And then you get you get approved people that they give you part of the list. Okay. These people are good enough that we can sacrifice. They can they're they've done the job we needed them for. Now they can go away. They're expendable.
And They're actors. Yeah. They're all actors. I mean, it's they say the world's a stage. I mean, you look at all these people and, you know, people can can look the same without being the same person or related. You know? Like, I can I can make one of those videos of the same face with my nephew and his great great grandfather on his father's side that we were never alive together, never met, but I could do one of those videos that you think is the same person? Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, that's a software. They say we all have a doppelganger somewhere throughout the world that's not even related to us. I mean, that's possible. We're all humans. I mean, that's a species.
[01:08:43] Unknown:
That that's just a species so you can line up everything if you want to, especially with AI. I mean, AI will will will take care of that. Yeah. And and just I've been on that. Let let's say that the world's a stage and that, all of a sudden 2025, they they gonna tell you, like, Trump has been played by, Keanu Reeves. You know, Biden has been the Jim Carey. All these these so there there's someone who's who's writing the script, the script of unbelievable stuff. And, I think that a lot of people that are in the, in the game of money and and power. So first of all, if you have a lot of power and a lot of money, if if someone tries to sew your footstool, you know, like, oh, they are all eating babies in this blood. You would say, oh, get rid of that motherfucker. Just like that overnight because you're so powerful and you have a lot of money.
And if you are looking at the plan like, okay, they wanna kill us ever. They wanna kill everyone. Wouldn't you be stupid to do that over such a long period? I mean, if you have the power and the and the stuff, you could do it. Okay. I'm I'm done.
[01:10:06] Unknown:
I mean, we they or, you know, they is that how they want us to think about it? Oh, it's stupid to to drag it out that long, but what do they care? That just keeps them in power longer.
[01:10:16] Unknown:
Yes. But it keeps us in fear. Oh, the spray in the skies again. Oh, the food is rigged. Oh, the the water has been poisoned. Oh, the it's it's like, okay. I'm I'm I'm awake as a conspiracy terror terrorist, therapist, whatever. But I'm still afraid of everything because they wanna poison me. Yeah. That's what I realized 2 days ago. Just like, holy fuck. That it keeps me although I think I'm I'm, you know, I'm I'm on the right path with with a lot of stuff that I did and a lot of stuff that I do, just like, let that be.
[01:10:52] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:10:53] Unknown:
Because and it's really hard, especially in this world, you know. Hey. You heard about this, or you you you take Instagram before you know you are 2 or 3 reels, you know, and you see some stuff or you see some, you know, this happened or that happened. I've I've tried to get a filter out of it. Like, I don't I don't give a shit. I don't care. But still, you're human, so you're very curious about stuff.
[01:11:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I saw a good one in the day. Said if it's out of your control, it should be out of your mind.
[01:11:25] Unknown:
Yeah. But it's hard. It is really hard. It's it's it's I think that they and and especially if you think, like, that the the people that the powers that be, you know, if you if you it's so easy to pull off, like, something like a Hollywood production. And these Hollywood productions are so crap nowadays compared to the eighties nineties when there was real movies. So that's a fake station. And, realizing that probably the powers that be have 20 to 30 years of more advanced technology. I mean, 150 years ago, we were supposedly having no, power, no toilets, horse and buggy. And look at us now, you know, in in 100 let's say 100 years how advanced we think that we are.
Imagine that you are ahead 20 or 25 years with technology. That's that's a tremendous, huge leap of of of stuff that you can do.
[01:12:40] Unknown:
I mean, we're talking on a Zoom. Right? Supposedly, did the Nazis have that in World War 2?
[01:12:47] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. I suppose I mean, it's a real Are you willing to do it in Africa or not? I want it all burned down. Yeah. Right. But our fear, we can do that because we have no troops. They get the troops all over there. I think they did, and they had, what was it Bluetooth already? Something like that?
[01:13:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Something. It's crazy.
[01:13:10] Unknown:
Yes. But they were it now. Yeah. And they they were also very specialized. It's 150 kilometers from here in Paderborn. You got the Extianstein. And in, near Paderborn, there's Wewelsburg. Now Wewelsburg is a a tripod castle, And that was from, from Himmler. So the SS was trained there. And he had in the center of that, castle, that's the the black sun. Yeah. So the the the Nazis were very occult and they were very interested in the occult stuff, so secret stuff or hidden stuff. When you're playing, I love the game, return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein New World Order.
Oh, oh, the end boss looks like Schwab. Oh, no kidding. And it's about an advanced Nazi regime that won World War 2 and is now in reign of the earth. What did you
[01:14:17] Unknown:
yeah. Did you so that goes with, the man in the high tower. Have you ever heard of Yes.
[01:14:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. And Iron Sky. That's a little bit more, ludicrous and a little bit more fun, which is a really good good movies, 2 of them. So and, especially, I was listening to, Tinfoil Hat. And he had Al Borriada's own. And and I think that he had someone on, about the knots. Oh, fuck. I can't remember the name. But it was 2 episodes about, pointed out that the knots were still in, in power right now because they flew to Argentina and all that stuff. So that that was very interesting. Like, okay. So they make a game out of it, about crazy technology that the Nazis are ruling this world. And now all of a sudden, like, connecting the dots. Oh, they probably did still do. And he had, a list of more than 100 companies, Coca Cola, Porsche, VW, McDonald's, Media Market, Action oh, you name it. They were still involved with Nazi money. So okay.
What if, right, what if they never lost? I think that's a fair question that I always said, like, they never lost. What what what do you think? I think that's spot on. You look at history too. Like
[01:15:45] Unknown:
so we had, here in America, the revolutionary war where we created the declaration of independence that we're gonna be separate from England, and we're gonna be our own country, and we're not gonna, you know, and you see the factors of why they went to war, which are nothing in compared to today of what's going on. And then you see the our supposed civil war, which was, you know, the north versus the south, and they've labeled it all about slavery when it had nothing to do with slavery. It had to do with tariffs and the the banks of New York controlling and fleecing the south, and there was slave labor in both the north and the south.
And you see that the the slave narrative isn't what has been sold. You know, there, you know, there was the first, slave owner was actually a black Angolan royalty guy, and there was only certain super rich people had slaves. I mean, there's still slavery today in a bunch of Muslim controlled countries. And then ever since the revolutionary or the civil war, you know, England came and got involved and helped the north win. Whereas Russia was trying to help the south, then they did, like, a tariff and a blockade and and pass all the stuff where Russia couldn't help about the south. Yeah. England could help the north. And then America's been one giant, hey, buddy. We're back with England now ever since then. So it was like, did they ever are those wars even real? Did they ever separate? Or is it just a story created to tell us to build a false sense of pride and patriotism and that were these people so we'll be, you know, enslaved without even looking at it and be a product of them because England doesn't create or produce anything. They just have banks and they control other people's production and capital investments. You know what I mean? How does the tiny island have so much power?
The if they weren't Makes no sense. If they weren't in control of other places that were bigger with the actual power. So, yeah, I can see the Nazi thing for sure. Why not? We we we're in league with England. We make this fake war and where real people are gonna die because we don't care. We can sacrifice people. We don't they don't give a shit. They're not they don't have that part of humanity where they care. Mhmm. And we'll create this new state of Israel, and then some of us will adopt that religion to go into hiding, and they can't ever question us or because we're the victims of these evil people that we actually were before we switched switched into the victims. Yes. You know? Yes. Yes.
[01:18:30] Unknown:
That's that's like I can totally see it. It's it's a genius plan, but be careful because there are some geniuses working on this plan for a long time.
[01:18:41] Unknown:
For a long time. I mean, it's nothing new. It's the same shit with Rome.
[01:18:47] Unknown:
Yes. What about Russia? I mean, Russia took care of Berlin. It took when you see band of brothers, the the the the this movie, when they landed on d day, they took a year a year to go to Berlin. A year. That's crazy. Insane. So without the Russians, we were doomed. Yeah. So why would you eventually, when they when they did their part, they they took care of the the Nazis or whatever, say, oh, now you're the bad guy. Now I don't wanna do anything with you because you are the just like, what? That that makes no sense. That makes no sense to me. So you're gonna you help us out and know you're the bad guy. Why does nobody think about that? Probably, we can talk about it because it's not censored yet. We know about the other thing other things, you know, the these ethnical groups that are very on the fire, literally and figuratively, nowadays.
You can't talk any that's red flag number 1 when you can't talk about a topic or a subject and someone says, no. It is not allowed to talk about it. That's like, okay. I'm done. This is all fake. Yeah. Then it's Because, otherwise, you you would come with facts and with, normal, you know, train the you know, normal brilliant minds that come together and talk about some stuff. And you can say, now you're talking stupid because facts here, that and that and that. But all the facts that you have nowadays have been lined up just like against that narrative.
[01:20:23] Unknown:
Yeah. And and if you can't talk about it, you can't solve the problem. So they don't want a solution.
[01:20:30] Unknown:
No. It's it's it's very it's very discriminating against every other religion or belief system to say, no. We are the only ones that have been protected by law. Fuck you. But, yeah, fuck you. But why should you be protected by law? That makes no sense at all. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. No. No. But, I mean,
[01:20:53] Unknown:
lots of it doesn't make sense. We'll go we'll circle back to you you brought up Genesis earlier with Will Duffy and stuff. Here here's one that I've been tripping on. You know, it it talks about the it tells the whole creation story, and the creation story in that one is similar to so many creation stories. Here's one I need a a more advanced researcher than me to look into. It always talks about like it says, in the beginning, God hovered over the waters, plural. You know what I mean? The waters, plural, then created it and separated the waters from the waters, but it never says that god created the waters.
That's the one thing it didn't create. The waters were already there.
[01:21:38] Unknown:
Right.
[01:21:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Who created the water? And we've seen how magical you know, we brought up the the the Japanese author's book, you know, the hidden messages in the water, and and all these things of of how intelligent water is and what it holds and how it is the key ingredient for all of life. And so one thing that goes in you and comes out the same, you know what I mean? It doesn't change. It doesn't even though it water can change from a solid liquid gas, it has all the, but it's still when he goes in you, it still comes back out water. It just brings out crap with it. Yeah. That's just something I've been tripping on is is there any of those creation stories that say that something created the water? There's none.
Not that I know of. I don't That's a good one. My own personal I've been tripping on that, like, the water is such a key thing. Yes.
[01:22:34] Unknown:
What created the water? I think somebody pointed out that, the water, and he he he talked about it very, very nicely that what if, god is water? Yeah. It all makes sense. It all makes sense. Yeah. And especially if you, looking at all the things you can do with water. Without water, there's no life. That's for sure. So that's that's that's a good fuel to start with. You know? And and consciousness, oh, yeah. It has consciousness. If you talk to it and you say shitty shit, you you're gonna enter yourself a shitty water. So did it it all comes together when you when you have water. And, of course, I think, Dan Pena pointed out in one of these, things that, the royal family and and the the the big corporations are are buying water rights since the beginning of time.
That's something to be very, very, you know, oil. Okay. You can drive your fucking car. That's okay. So go to Iran. It's gonna cost you 0.5 25¢ for a liter of, diesel. I don't think 0.40¢ for 4 for for liter of gasoline. So what happened to my prices with €2 something for 1 liter?
[01:23:52] Unknown:
Well, in here, there's always a drought, yet they're selling the water to other places. Like, in Arizona. Arizona is a desert, but it has a lot of water. But there the farmers and people can't get it because, Middle East people are buying it to feed their to grow alfalfa that because they can't grow alfalfa. It's illegal because it takes so much water. So they they can buy our water and our land to grow it here and ship it over there to feed the camels. Oh, that's the livestock suffer. How backwards is that?
[01:24:23] Unknown:
It may it makes no sense. It's the same with, I was working in the anguaric, sector here in the Netherlands, and and we have the the best tomatoes. We have greenhouses, you know, glasshouse, greenhouses. So the the it's state of the art. You know, you have, especially with the with the with the greenery, for for example, tomatoes. In the early days, you have this it was a vibration staff, and you you you, you put it on a flower so that will, fruit or or or will, make new new, blossoms. I don't know what's it called. But would you like the electro culture with the copper wires? No. No. You you have a a like a dildo, but but let it with yeah. But it looks like like like a very small dildo, and you you point it on the flower of the tomato plants. So it will the, ah, fuck. The the the shit. What's the what's the word?
Pollination? Or Yep. Yeah. Yes. What the bees normally do, but you don't have bees in the in the so so you do that unnaturally, but to to pollinate? Is is that the right word? Pollinate. Yeah. Yeah. The the the flowers. But, of course, when you have so much crop, there is also some bugs. But you have other, insects that take care of these bugs. So I was taking for natural killers. So they have, and it's called Athipar. And also, nowadays, they do it not with the stick, but they do it with, not with bees, but with, the the little the humble humble bees. Yeah. Humblebee. That's a good word. So they they they, it's all natural. But we have the most beautiful tomatoes and cucumbers and stuff like that. Well, we're gonna export them, and we're gonna take back all the stuff that's been DTP or whatever the fuck from Spain and all that shit. So what it makes no sense.
[01:26:32] Unknown:
It would make I mean, I understand you wanna make the money for your country, but at the same time, why do you wanna feed your people the crap stuff? Why would you not keep you know what I mean? Enough why would you not make sure your people are satiated before you export for the money?
[01:26:51] Unknown:
Right? Why is Heineken export a better beer than normal Heineken?
[01:26:57] Unknown:
It it doesn't make any sense to me. No. The Heineken here sucks. When I went to Amsterdam, I've been there twice. The Heineken in Amsterdam is 10 times better than here. Heineken is not good there. It's cleaner water. I know. I went to the Heineken Brewery and did the tour when I was, like, 18. And but it was compared to the Heineken we get in America, 10 times better. Oh, wow. By the time it gets here, it's so skunky and pissy and just nasty and not
[01:27:27] Unknown:
not smooth and and good. Dude, when you are in Europe and you come to Netherlands, I'm gonna drive you here, like, few miles away from the brewery of, Hertogen, which is natural brewed beer. It's only one of the only distilleries or, what's it called, that they do, naturally, because most like Heineken is chemical. Yeah. And that makes a lot of difference. And if you see the process here, which is a very tiny brewery, it's it's awesome. And we have, a beer that's called, Grand Prestige, which is, has a very high alcohol level. But, boy, that's so good. And, especially, this one of the only beers that you can you can, lager for more than 20 years. It's gonna be better.
The longer it takes to ripe, the better it gets. It's gonna be like port. Yeah. I want to grab myself some beer before we hopped on this podcast, and then I will think like, why should I? Because how long have you been sober now, Eric?
[01:28:35] Unknown:
So on the December 11th, so 16 days ago was 3 years.
[01:28:41] Unknown:
Wow.
[01:28:42] Unknown:
3 years of no no drugs and alcohol, I mean, other than sugar and caffeine.
[01:28:48] Unknown:
I take I take it to a lot of caffeine, sugar, fish. These don't get tired. I'm turning tricks. So you would have sent that your body blues seems all our ears were born to lose. Guns and Roses right next door to hell. Right.
[01:29:01] Unknown:
Do a lot of caffeine. I have I make my tea every day.
[01:29:06] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:29:07] Unknown:
And it's one tea bag, so I don't know how much caffeine's in that. I I mean, I do one, like, a big coffee cup full when I make the tea, and then I pour it in here, and I mix it with a little bit of pineapple juice, apple juice.
[01:29:20] Unknown:
Oh, wow. That sounds good. Cinnamon and turmeric. So you mix your tea And raw and juice.
[01:29:28] Unknown:
And raw honey. Raw unfiltered honey because I used to like those Arizona teas. Mhmm. In, like, a big can. Yeah. They they're so full of high fructose corn syrup and so much other crap. Like so now I have my simple one that way cheaper and more healthy and Oh, it makes so much sense. It makes so much sense. I'll drink this one jug throughout the day, like, at work. You know, I'll finish it by the time I work. I work from 7 AM till 5 PM. I'll drink it during that time. And then I make my wife coffee every morning, and then what I'll do is when I wake up in the morning, I do my Himalayan salt with some water shot, you know, to get my salt. And then I'll pour out the leftover from the coffee I made her the day before, just like a, you know, half a cup or whatever, and I'll shoot that. That's what I have in the morning.
And then on the on the strong ends, like, on, you know, on Saturday and Sunday, then I'll make a big pot and I'll have a a coffee with her. But I try not to I you know, that's that's all the caffeine. Every once in a while, I'll have, like, a a Red Bull or something when I'm dragging at I mean, yes. Yeah. Yeah. I tried not to, but that's about it. And then I've been doing really good on my sugar. Like, I used to reward myself with a piece of chocolate, like, every day or this is you know? And it's just I've been trying not to because I I'll and I love dark chocolate. The darker, obviously, the better. And Uh-huh. And I've been try like, what I've been really bad lately is is peanut butter because I know the peanuts are GMO, and then they put the oils in there.
I mean, the one I buy says there there's less than 2%, but I don't know. And not nuts. No. And I love to take, like, a piece of that dark chocolate and put a little peanut butter on it. Oh,
[01:31:22] Unknown:
dude, it reminds me, we we have, haggleslark. Haggleslark is, oh, you know that? No. Oh, so it's a little chips of, chocolate. You're gonna put it on your sandwich. Okay. They they look like if if if you spread some on your kitchen counter and you have a mouse, you can see the difference because of a mouse mouse turd or like Hagelslag. But it's like that with, with peanut butter. Oh, fuck. Yes. Right? Yes. I have to be honest with you. I was almost 3 months sober. Well well, yeah, in in in in phases. Right? So I came back from Peru. I, treated myself, for some red wine when it was, done with the with the with the retreat.
And, of course, everything we do in life has to do we have to do with the intention. You know? Is is the intention to get drunk? You're gonna drink more than one bottle. My intention is not to be drunk either way. Well, I smoked some cigars, some real cigars, not like the the cigars that I normally smoke like over the lungs. So that's, that's my fucking excuse, to be honest with you. I like that. Sugar. No. Don't get me into chocolate or ice cream because I'm I I will be yes. I'm alright. Shit. So I don't buy it. No smoke. Well, alcohol. I yesterday, we were at a sushi restaurant because it was Christmas for most people.
And, I had a a nice Belgian beer, like a triple triple, Latrobe, which is a very new nice and a strong beer. So, that and we we we, when we ended, the food, we were drinking, Irish coffee. Yes. One of my favorites. But just to tell you what I did in the early days. In the early days, like, say 10, 5th say 15 years ago, I will have a bottle of Jameson Whiskey always on the side for the weekends. Then it was weekends. Now it's strong hands. Then it was weekends, to get it on Sunday morning, with an Irish coffee and maybe 2 or 3 when I wasn't driving my motorcycle. And 1, 700 milliliters of rum.
That was for the weekend just to get started with Coca Cola. But, oh, boy, oh, boy, when on Friday night, hit it and there was no rum. I would well, I wasn't going mad, but that there there was other ways to to, to get myself fucked up. Wasted. Nowadays, I really enjoyed the dinner yesterday. I really enjoyed the company, and I really enjoyed the beer. But it's not like, oh, today, I'm gonna get, you know, just like I said, I don't need the beer to have a great time with you.
[01:34:34] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:34:35] Unknown:
The so the intention of why you're doing something and my mom, she I was with my mom today. She said, oh, I thought you were you stopped with this and this. I said, no. Well, I was stopped at the moment, but I'm never gonna tell you. I will never ever no. No. No. I'm Rob, man. I'm I'm just, you know, when you're having a good time and some things come, come to you, then there could be a good intention to, to do some stuff. Right?
[01:35:08] Unknown:
Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. I was wondering how your sobriety was going, and mine's not to be a permanent. Mine was to rebalance. So I have 3 more years. After 3 more years, then I will be the same amount of years alive sober as fucked up. Right. And then and and it's and it it it is a learning and a conditioning thing because I've, I'll give I'll give Joe Rogan credit on this. He does have one you know, I mean, he's had some funny jokes, but this quote or or analogy he made is is good. He's you know, they're tools. Right? And you can either use you know, if it's a hammer, you can use that hammer to build a house or just hit yourself in the dick. Well, that's what I was doing with alcohol and weed and and whatever. I was just punching myself in the dick and not, you know, not enjoying it. You know, I I couldn't wait to get home. I'd I'd chug down 2 beers real quick to get that little buzz going. That way when I would hit my bong, it would hit faster and a little harder. I'd get that extra level, you know, because you can smoke, but if you're a little bit got a little alcohol in there, your blood's a little thinner. Yeah. Getting me to the spirits is open a little bit more That weed will come in and really you know? So, when I'm when I hit my rebalance, you know, and that was the thing with everything. Like like, when I used to party, I'd buy a big bottle of Jagermeister and half of it Friday with a whole bunch of beers and smoking, and then and sometimes we'd pop a pill or something. And then the other half Saturday and same thing and, you know, and then when you're young, you can recover on Sunday, halfway through Sunday, you feel fine again. And then as you get older, like, it doesn't work that much. And and you just lose I don't know the the intention. I, even right before I I went on my my my sobriety, I really wasn't partaking that much. I was smoking a lot. You know, I would I would go through quite a bit, in a in a strong you know?
But, as far as the alcohol wise, I was way down. I wasn't it wasn't that, oh, I gotta get boom, boom, boom. Let's go. Let's go. Because I was always the first one puking or the last one standing. Like, I would just put it away.
[01:37:27] Unknown:
Good balance.
[01:37:29] Unknown:
Just that I I can drink more than you and and half the time it worked and half the time no. Right. Right. No. I just wanna complete my this this rebalance and then slowly maybe go back, and I want it to be for, hey. I met up with Rob or Milton or or one of my other good friends that's local and had maybe one just an enjoyment of of you know what I mean? Right. What actual purpose, not for just the trickery or the fake reward of of, you know Right. Okay. I went to work all this week. I deserve this. Well, why why should my reward be poisoning or toxin? Why can't it be, you know, something that's actually beneficial,
[01:38:14] Unknown:
you know? Yeah. I I love to kick around my ego just like this little voice in myself, like, oh, can I please have a joint? Nope. And then all of a sudden, the the so so the the, the intrinsic motivation now is completely different than it was. So even if I come back home here, well, hear me saying as a as a as a as a homeless back home. But if I go back to on Fridays on on work and they're drinking a beer, I can make up my mind to do that. But I don't have to. And I always said to myself, especially when I was, starting live, I never ever want to be, dependent on someone or something.
And so I always said when I figured out, like, oh, you're smoking quite a lot. It was not like my dad or my mom said, oh, you're quite smoking a lot, but just like, oh, wait a minute. Oh, I I gotta bring this down to to to to 0 or to you know? You you you have to be responsible, for your own deeds and your own stuff in life. You know? It's it's like finger pointing and still do that sometimes because it's very easy. You know? Oh, everyone is to blame that I'm fucked up. Well, it's you, Rob. It's look in the mirror. You you made the wrong choices. You you made the wrong or or you you haven't learned the lesson. You screwed up. You know, lick your wounds and get back to it again.
That's all and and that's it's not like, oh, I figured it out. Oh, no, man. This this is still a journey of, you know, getting down, you know, dust off and and hold your head up high and go and try to do it again. Yeah.
[01:40:03] Unknown:
Yeah. And I know exactly like it. Just like anything in life, it's your choice around it that creates the connection or the separation. And I created a lot of separation, passed up a lot of experiences and opportunities because I was in such that mode of I don't want like, I enjoyed, you know, smoking weed so much that I only wanted to do things that I could do while doing that. Or you know what I mean? Like, oh Yeah. We're gonna go do go to a movie or we're gonna go do this or that. We have to have time or coordinate where we can get high first. We can't, you know oh, you're gonna go do that? I don't wanna go do that because it's with people that might judge me for being high.
Up here around. So I don't enjoy doing that while still and and I don't wanna do it like so. And that wasn't anything's fault, but my own, my own choice for creating that mindset, that weak mindset.
[01:41:01] Unknown:
Right.
[01:41:02] Unknown:
I can't just go do this and enjoy this because, you know, I wanna do it stoned or something. You know, just stupid, like and it's funny how certain things you can do stoned and certain things you can't. I mean, I'm not sure. Snowboarding? Stoned. Like Right. Skateboarding? No. Silver. You like, it's still weird. So weird.
[01:41:27] Unknown:
We we were we were driving. Oh, man. I don't know. What's the felony? When when does it, eventually go goes way? How many years? Oh, like a drunk driving? It's probably different everywhere here. No. Drunk driving is something that I never did. No. But driving stone oh, dude, I was smoking like, oh, like like a chimney. Every my my eyes, I don't have that big eyes, but they were they were almost close to me. And I and I'm just like, oh, man. What are you doing? Oh, man. Smoking a joint. Oh, yeah. Let's hang around. You know? Stuff like that. I would nowadays?
Oh, dude. I I I would be almost panicking with all the cameras and all that stuff, you know, and and and traffic. No. And and I I think I I wouldn't I wouldn't feel that comfortable. I don't know what happened in 20 or 4, 30 years time because that at that that time, it wasn't allowed either. But it was just normal for for me. Well, what's normal anyways. Right? But drunk, no. I I once once, was a friend of mine, and, he had some stress with this girl. And we came back drunk as fuck. And I said, oh, man. I'm gonna drive you to the end of town, so you can, check your girlfriend out and stuff like that. So I I entered the car.
I put it in, in the first gear, but I thought it was in reverse. So first, I hit it, some, some greenery. Right? And before I I was, out of the street, I I hit it some things, and I I I was really drunk to and I said, this is not gonna work. So I entered the entered the car, and I I walked back home. And the car was, parked in the middle of the streets, going back stoned several times. Then my mom said, are you stoned? I said, why? Well, look at your car, and I and I looked back and just like it was parked perfectly in the middle of the street.
So, you know yeah. That but that that's, but we were talking about so many things today, Eric. What is the topic that you wanna touch base on today?
[01:43:50] Unknown:
I'm not sure. I we've been you know, we like to jump branches like squirrels. You know? I like I like everything. You know? It's it's great. I'll talk it's funny talking about intoxicated driving. The time I got in trouble for it was probably one of the least intoxicated times I ever was. You know? It's like, you got caught when you probably shouldn't have and then the times you should've got caught, you didn't. Oh, tell me. Like, times we got pulled over, we're hiding beer cans and liquor bottles and throwing weed out the car and okay, kids. Have a good night. All underage. And then the one time I got pulled over, I probably was more fucked up than I thought, but I had only had a couple couple beers and a smoke, and then I had to drive, the girl I was dating at that time back home, and then I had to drive back up. And then I was a smart ass to the cop, and he was a new cop, and so I spent the night in jail and just I silly. You know? Like, you learn life lessons. You know? It's just funny.
It's just funny how it is it's just one of those things. And then one thing that always gets me today too is is how normalized they've made, drinking and stuff. And I and I wonder if it was always that way, if that was another thing that they've changed or manipulated, like, the the celebration of alcohol. Did we always drink like that? Did we always is it true in the history books with all the wine and all the monks with the mead and all the or is that manipulated to get us to this society where it's so based around alcohol? Like Oh, yeah. Because people still are looking at me weird that I'm not partaking. Like, my stepdad on Christmas, I didn't wanna I'm like, no. I'm not having a bloody Mary. I'm so and he's like like, I'm some weirdo space alien. Right?
[01:45:38] Unknown:
Only if you say that, oh, I got a disease, and when I'm gonna drink alcohol, I'm I I will drop that. Oh, oh, no problem. For Eric, Koda. Just like, why do I need an excuse not to drink? That always fascinates me. Oh, wait. Oh, don't be, you know, oh, you're you're not like, what what's it called? In in Netherlands to say, you know, oh, come on. It's a it's a great party. Yeah. Still having a great party. Dude, I was once at a at a rave, and I was sober for more than 2 months. No alcohol, no weed, no nothing. Right?
So, I I was going to this party and this guy on the door, he he he looked me in the eyes. He said, you are having a great time. I said, damn. I'm having a great time. Alright. Spry your legs. I think you got something on you. I said, okay. Dude, come on. Bring it on. So he checked me, and he said, why the fuck are you looking so so funny and you're smiling? I said, because I'm having a great time. And my girlfriend said, dude, every single time when you were trying to to to, to check him, you would probably find something if you if if you didn't stack it too much. But now I I'm 100% sure. I'm 100% convinced Rob is sober.
But now comes this thing. I go to the party. I I I, you know, I dance like crazy. Everyone in the room that I know came up to me like, hey, man. What's your wrong? You got something left? Right? And I said, no, man. I'm just having a fucking great time around here, and I'm sober. No. You're not so damn. I'm fucking sober. You can you can check me out. How how that's so so strange how stuff like that goes.
[01:47:28] Unknown:
That's so strange. People can't believe that you can just have a good time.
[01:47:34] Unknown:
They they don't. Hire on yourself. You know? That's like, even, like, especially in in my in my, in my trailer, I really like to dance and to, you know, play guitar, stand up, and do some stuff. We should do that more because adrenaline, all good stuff is gonna be in entering in your brain. You're feeling good. You know, when you have this rock music or whatever music that you like, you know. By the way, people that are listening to this episode right now, Eric is a phenomenal rapper. Dude. Where where where can people, dig some stuff up?
[01:48:15] Unknown:
I have a a SoundCloud. Bunch of my stuff's on SoundCloud, under Eric Finis, and then, Reverb Nation. That's another little site that it used to be kinda connected to Facebook. I don't know if it is or anymore. I started getting a Bandcamp going, but, I don't have I need to buy the the ASCAP or whatever, like, that $100 fee to make you, like, a legit artist. That's tough. And then and then Bandcamp works a little bit more better for that. And it's a one time thing. I need to just do it, because then, I can license my stuff more and do, you know, whatever the fuck with it better if if someone wants to wanted the if someone wanted to pay me and use it, like, legitimately, like, in a commercial or or something. I mean, obviously, if one of my friends wanted to use a song or something, yeah, use it. You wanna give me bucks? I don't give a shit. But you wanna use it? It's free. Use it. You know?
Those would be the 2 best places to to to find where you can listen to it. And I think on Reverb Nation, it's reverb nation dot com. I think most everything on there, you can download it. I don't I thought it was set up on SoundCloud, but I don't think you can. I think Snake said he had to pay for a membership to to be able to download it. But if if someone listening to this, if you hear a song you like or whatever, hit me up. I'll send you I'll send you the m p 3 or whatever, and and you can have whatever straight to your phone. Like, I'm not it the I made the one album, like, 12 years ago, and then I've had I did, like, 3 singles, like, the year after that. And then and then I just got too busy with my my kids and and life. And and the people that we were kinda working with, it kind of all blew up. And my one friend, he's still gone with it. He's still working hardcore. Shout out to my brother, Patches.
Patches say Patches on Instagram. He has a Linktree on there. He raps, sings, makes, beats, produces music. He's killing it. And then I've done and this year, I released 3. I think I did 3 tracks this year, 3 songs this year, and then the year before I did 1 or 2. So I'm still doing it. It's just not it's, you know, time time and effort. You know what I mean? It's just Oh, yeah. It's hard grind out the time. Like, I got it's not my priority anymore. Like, before I was married and had kids, that was like, I just need bart and that was the thing. I was bartending at my father's bar. We would do a hip hop night once a month.
And then after my shifts, you know, I closed down the bar on a Thursday night, Sunday night. No one's in there. I can go up on stage, put my stuff on, rehearse. So I had, like, a 40 minute set that I was doing back then. Wow. But I could practice all the time. So when I would go to the show, I'm on point. Like and everyone's like, damn. Like, I'm like, well, I practice. That that's how it is. Like, what do what do you think these rock stars are doing? They're not just sitting around getting high all the time. I mean, part of their time there, but the other time, they're working and practicing and Oh, yeah. And then held down, like, you know? I mean Yeah. You gotta perform. Yeah. You gotta get it down. So, yeah, appreciate you. Yeah. Shout out to snake, our brother snake, the our magical wizard behind the scenes. He's he's probably my biggest fan. Love that, guys.
[01:51:33] Unknown:
Do you got a a another name as a as an artist?
[01:51:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Filbert Mohair is is the name. Filbert Mohair. It's just a silly name me and my friend came up with when we were messed up. And, probably
[01:51:47] Unknown:
At least it's original. No one's gonna have that name. And then And it's crazy that that you, when you're looking back to it, that you, you brought out an album. Right? Yeah. Yeah. It was fun. It was a good that we did 2 albums. Nice. And sometimes, you know, you don't think about it. But but, a few strongs ago, we were talking about something like that, and someone asked me about music and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Do something on TikTok, and, oh, you never brought something. I'm just like, no. Oh, wait. Yeah. I was in the band, and we we we made 2 albums.
She's like, oh, yeah. Wait a minute. That's me. But it's it it, so you do, still produce some stuff? Yeah. Yeah. He like everything yourself to piece the whole
[01:52:35] Unknown:
no. I don't know. I usually get those from other people. So, like, my album so we when I made my album, we had a little a little crew going a little group. There was, like, 5 of us. And, so I did an album. 2 other guys did a album, and then we had a group album we released. And then we were trying to do it, and then right when, my album got released the end of that summer, they did a little tour, like, only only one guy from our group went. The other guy was one guy that would produce some of the the music and the beats. He was still young. He was only 19. And I was gonna go on that tour, and my wife was pregnant at the time, was really against it. You know, just worried. She thinks I'll go on tour and be with all these girls and all these, you know, whatever.
The the the booze and the babes and the ass. Yeah. No. Those being bump ups. I don't think that was ever gonna happen, but, you know, for her sake, I didn't go on the tour, which whatever. And, just kept doing some local shows here and there. Our big huge summer jam music festival, we we got to perform there. And, and then it was just I liked doing the shows. Like like I said, I had a 40 minute set of just my stuff, and then I would kinda choreograph our group sets, what we were gonna do together, because we usually get depends. When you're first starting out, you don't get a lot of time. You get maybe 15, 20 minutes. Oh, yeah. And you gotta you gotta spit it out. You gotta try and cram it all in there. So we did a couple of those things, and then it seemed like I was the only one really putting in the effort to make the live show, and that's where you do it. I mean, that's you know what I mean? You gotta represent the live show, sell your merch, get it going to keep keep it going. And it seemed like those guys didn't like doing it. They just liked making the music. I'm like, well, it's not really ever gonna go anywhere if you're not if you don't put in the effort and do the tour. You know, you gotta suck it up and live in a van for a few days.
Do a show for one of your shows there's gonna be a 100 people. One of your shows there's gonna be 10. Yes. You know? And I did all those. I did shows for 100, and I did shows for 5 people. And you gotta bring the same energy every time. Yep. You know? Just because there's 5 people that you can't suck. Yeah. Exactly.
[01:54:53] Unknown:
I don't know. Maybe the one guy that that maybe could could be the the the universe, you know, for you.
[01:55:01] Unknown:
Yeah. So we're not doing it. I was just writing my own lyrics to different, music I would acquire. Like, I bought 4 songs from a guy in Warsaw. So one of my songs on my album is actually one of his beats from Poland. And then, and then the other ones were from a kid in our group, and they were just hey. I don't these are kinda some ones I'm not doing anything with. I don't really care about them. Use them if you want to. Okay. Sweet. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Yeah. Of course. Buddy that's still way into it, he'll he'll get I'll ask him, like, hey. Can I use this one? Yeah. Yeah. And then I try and compensate him for it, you know. And I have some other producers I know, but I mean, it's it's kind of expensive and and, like I said, priorities. I'm I you know, so I used to go to the, like, professional studio and do all that and but the lately, the last three songs I've done, I've done them all on my phone, on an app on my phone and did them all, Claude, from Fermental. He helped, regulate the levels on 1, like, did did some stuff on it, and and I appreciate that. He did did it for free here. Here, I'd Right. We have the same app, and so he can I can, share a project to him and make it available that he can work on it with me?
[01:56:14] Unknown:
Oh, but that's that's that's just something that that that came to my mind. Like, can you imagine that, like, 15 years ago that you would be your own producer? It was, you couldn't do that. Not with the studio equipment of tens of 1,000 of dollars. Nowadays, you just have your phone, you record the shit and you just put it out. That's that. I mean, and even if you, if you take some, some, some, software to, to, to slice it up or to make it more, listenable, like I do with my shows, not on Rumble for a time, but for, audio, I put it in in the enhanced, podcasting, software. So it it it it sounds better for listening to on YouTube. You know? Okay. That this is it, what you're gonna get. But, I I was I was really happy with my, with my setup that I have. Like, I got the Arturia, the mini lap, so I can put every sound that I have in it if everything has been set up.
And with my loop station, because I I I you know, making a sound is 1, but producing it all over again, that's that's 2. You know? And then you need your drums and all that stuff. I was working a lot of lot of that, but it takes, like you said, so much time. The easiest way is just to have, free people, hang around together, have a good time, and just play some play some tunes and record it, and and let's see what's happening. And if you're alone, like like me, this organized production, just like, okay. When I got my loop station, hey.
Magic happens.
[01:57:52] Unknown:
Oh, we had a we had a few guys that would come around to the bar with a loop station solo act. He'd get a couple sounds going and make badass songs and play and, you know, do covers and stuff too. Like, you know Oh, yeah. Slap out a, like, slap out a simple beat on his guitar, loop it, and then lay down kind of the baseline. And then he'd play the regular guitar part and do solos and sing. You know? It was awesome. It was it was it was legit. It was cool. It was I can do, like,
[01:58:22] Unknown:
probably more than 1 hour, but let's say 1 hour. So people, if you, if you wanna, if you wanna see more disorganized, just just book me. I don't have a home, so you only have to pay me some food and a and a roof above my head and have a great time together. No matter where on this beautiful plane planning. You you you call me out. I mean, just just make this organized production show. You know? I was talking to snake about that.
[01:58:48] Unknown:
Yeah. How does how does the those coffees work? When I sent you those coffees the other day, do you actually get that money? Or
[01:58:56] Unknown:
I I I have to check it out. I saw it. I I thank you. I don't know if it's gonna probably, it's like, it should be, like, above, like, let's say, $10 or or $100 before you pay out. Because otherwise, the trend probably, I have to figure it out because I was very excited that, Eric is also one of my producers. Yes. Shout out to all the producers of, Dzored Edge Productions. Having that beautiful shirt on. I I and it I I think that it's, that the quality wasn't, quite as as expected. But I figured out that some t shirts have several, so so you can add some qualities.
Yeah. So so probably maybe, you know, because I was that was one of my first, shirts. But, I have uploaded some some others which are cool. Snake has one on sun Sundays with the church, like, Psalms, whatever the fuck. You made one too, with the book. I I uploaded that one too.
[02:00:07] Unknown:
So I'm gonna get one of those too eventually. I was just wondering with the coffee because, I didn't know how that worked. And then and after I did it, I was like, well, yeah, maybe I should've just sent you PayPal or whatever. But I don't have PayPal, but, like, I think I can just do it one time on the card or whatever. But I was just like, if if there's you know, because I actually wanted to help you and you know? Because I know you're going through it right now. You know, you're trying to get it together. So I was like, you're my brother. Love you. Wanna spread the love. Little holiday cheer. So I was like and then I thought about it. I was like, is he even gonna be able to use this, or is it you know what I mean? So I was like, ah, maybe I should have just sent it the other way because I'd rather have you have a couple bucks in your pocket. You know? Right.
[02:00:47] Unknown:
Thanks, man. Thanks. Well, I think eventually it will work, but, I have to dig into it. That's the that's the only thing as a content creator and as a, well, let's say, producer, writer, whatever the fuck they're gonna call it. You have to be aware of so many things. That's like just like you said, you know, it's it's the time. It's not the time like, oh, I I have a great beat, and I just wanna and I make a you know? It's like you have to record. Then you have need software. Then you need a software update. Then you have to create a new account. Then you have to fill it in a new account. Dude, dude, oh, it's something like the the, I want to make a movie out of that, like a short clip of in the early days when you got a letter, when you saw a postman that comes up to your briefcase, like, someone wrote a letter.
Yep. Nowadays, when you open up your mailbox, just like It's advertised. Shitload of shit. Just like, don't even look at your spam. I mean,
[02:01:54] Unknown:
what the hell happened? You know? And creating too, you have to be you know, it's all vibrations. Right? So if you're in that low vibe, it's not gonna come out. Like, I I've I remember time spending so many strongs, you know, so many, you know, so many so much time on one song, like, just being almost sometimes too much of a perfectionist. Mhmm. And then it then I got to a point of it's never gonna be perfect. You know? And I'm and I'm a human, and I want it to be real. I'd like something that I hate of any kind of music. You hear this so perfect produced studio song Uh-huh. That cannot recreate live.
You see it live and it's like, what is this? And so when I made that first album, I tried to make it, hey. You know, my producer would get mad. You're not giving me a lot of stuff to do. I'm like, well, I don't I want it simple. That way, when I go do the live show, it sounds the same. Like Or better. Right? Yeah. Or better. Like, I just you know, I don't need a lot of sound effects. I don't need a lot of reverb. I don't need a lot of whatever. Like, I just want my rap. I want the beat. That way when you make my my show disc, you just tell them that, like because that was a thing too. Like, so many rappers lip sync and shit, and it was like Oh, let let me leave in the lip sync. And I was a dick, and I would I would talk shit to him and and because my when I would do my show, when I'd have him make my show disc, you know, I'd have him take out all the lyrics and and then just leave maybe a little bit of the chorus, you know, or or the hook part to where when it was the time I'm rapping, it's me. You're hearing my voice. Like Right. Right. All me. And then then when it comes to the chorus, I can take a break a little bit, have one of the other people in the group do that part Uh-huh. Then come back focus on my next verse. And then but I wanted it because we would go to so many shows and they'd be rapping over themselves.
And sometimes it would be off rhythm and off timing, and it was so terrible. And then and just that's just something that we I'm sure all artists of all genres make fun of lip syncing and and not doing it live, like and so many artists do. I mean and I understand sometimes in big things, it's hard to get the sound proper and right, but still I think if that's your product, bring it as real as you can and you know what I mean? Yeah.
[02:04:24] Unknown:
You know, Adam Curry? Yeah. Shout out to Adam Curry, but I still want you on my podcast. Goddamn it. But he was, presenting, one of the first, m not one of the first music shows in the Netherlands, which it was count, Countdown, which is called Countdown. And, I think it was on that show or on TopHOP, where there was the first real international bands playing live in the studio. Well, live between air hooks because, Iron Maiden was there with I think it was Wasted Years. And they thought, like, we're always play live. We're fucking Iron Maiden. Right?
But they were in in this little, studio. They they they you know, with with the audience and all that stuff, and they had to lip sync. So Okay. That was the funniest lip sync you ever gonna see because all of a sudden, Bruce Dickinson is behind the drums. Nico is, is pretend to sing. The bassist are switching, with the guitarist. And it was one big mess. Why? Well, we're gonna lip sync. So everything is fake. Just like So let's fuck around with it. You guys fuck around. Like, you you're not gonna screw it up because it's it's on tape. Right? Right. It's so funny.
But, yes. If you if you, and I I know what you mean with the perf, with the perfection. I was dealing with my with myself, especially with my own ego for more than 3 years, I think, that I I did stuff and I didn't put it on the Internet. Eventually, now, sometimes it's just like, oh, When I came back from Peru, I got so much stuff that I could add in and stuff like that. Life took a toll on me. You know, with with things that I have to set up first, some bridge that I had to burn. All this stuff takes so much energy. Feel like a chase rabbit, because there's no real place that I can go to to be on my ease, you know. Close the door and just like, oh, fuck everyone. Or or just lay down.
So that that that's really hard. But with, with the perfection because of that perfection, I I wanted to have it perfect so it doesn't come out. Then all of a sudden, I had a conversation with someone on a zoom and they said, like, it's never going to be perfect. Especially if you are a perfectionist, it never will be perfect. So bring it out and see how it goes because then you have authenticity. I probably wrote a few songs. I, write my own music most of the time, and I can't remember the fucking shit. It's disorganized productions. Remember? But, you know, it's just like, oh, if I'm in a groove, I really have to sit down. Like you say, you have to sit down and practice all that shit. Like and sometimes out of the guitar, it comes. But if I have to do it all over again with the chords, I'm gonna fuck it up. Yeah. But that's that's that's me.
I'm I'm not like, oh, I'm sorry. No. That's me. I'm, I'm the one that fucks it up. But if you don't like it, don't listen to it. You know? And if I redo my best and it comes out great with, the song at the end of the podcast also, that that's it's it's in one take, but it takes me a lot of time to get that one tape ready. And then when I listen to it, how man do when I when I when I will record it once in the studio, dude, that that's a song that a lot of people can sing along with because they they're feeling the same. And that was just like a production with my telephone, just like, you know, put it here on record. I've been running for all my life.
[02:08:24] Unknown:
I love
[02:08:25] Unknown:
that. Thanks. Thanks. I love your music, man. Because, after you post that one, I'll start to rap too. Just like pop. I love to do that shit. Look. Freestyling.
[02:08:37] Unknown:
Oh, good. Like, it gets sometimes some of the best highs I've ever had were driving in the car and just all of a sudden you'd hit it and spit out a bunch of stuff, and it just you you you got the right connections you wanted. Uh-huh. And then you just that head rush, and you're just like, yeah. Yeah.
[02:08:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I really like that when I hear a song that I don't know, and I feel like this vibe of the song and then just, you know, randomly randomly take my old lyrics. Yeah. And when they fit, just like you said, you're gonna be, fuck, yeah. That's better than than the original.
[02:09:14] Unknown:
And I used to be so bad, like, I'd you know, a a a a couple lines would come to me. And I'm like, okay. I'm gonna write that down later. Hey. Forget them. So I've been really you're like, now if I if I hear something, I'll grab my phone and put it in. And one of my one an artist I really like, he said, write it all down no matter how corny it sounds. Because the second you write it down, you have it. Yes. And then when you go back to it, it might not be exactly what you want, but you have a foundation to build off or change from. And then because always too, I'm the master of 10 minutes later, someone says something then 10 minutes later, like, oh, I have the perfect answer, and now I don't have you know what I mean? Oh.
[02:10:00] Unknown:
Like, touch cast him all the time.
[02:10:03] Unknown:
Yeah. The last one I did with Milton after, like, you know, half hour after we're off, I'm like, oh, I was gonna say this, and I didn't. And then this I had this answer for that, and I didn't say it. And it's like, oh, well, next time.
[02:10:16] Unknown:
Yeah. She gotta make make notes, man. I I I was writing a lot in, a few songs back, actually, especially, one one script, of of Peru. Just like writing down all all your thoughts and all the stuff, and then it all comes together. And, especially, I think there's something going on. If you write something down, you imprint it in your brain. Yep. And you can't figure it out. And sometimes, especially when you have some like, oh, dude, write it down or or no matter what, but but but take notes of it because 5 seconds in, just like, oh, what was it? You know, it it maybe it's one word or so that you're gonna fuck it up that that doesn't make any sense.
Wow.
[02:11:02] Unknown:
It's like you have multiple multiple points of manifestation. You you know, the thoughts come and go, and then you can even say it. But even, you know, there's been things I've been at work, had a little thing I've been singing all morning for, like, 2 hours. Didn't write it down. 2 hours later, no don't recall exactly the words or the rhythm. Oh. And then it's like, so when you you say it out loud, then you write it down. Then now you've got multiple points of where you can help connect it and then, you know.
[02:11:33] Unknown:
Yeah. I got it with the guitar. I'm playing a riff. And someone said, oh, wait. That's cool. I said, what? You know, I stopped. He said, play it again. And I started just, like, totally different. He said, no. No. The the the other I just, like, that that's why I like to play along with with, you know, when there's a blues or or, you know, like a backing track. Yeah. I can oh. Oh, here here it goes. But but if I do the the own song that didn't need the the loop station, you just like click. Oh, now I got it down, and now I can perfect it, and I can listen to it again. Then I have to be very careful not to delete it.
Oh, that happens so much. Oh, that's just like, oh, that was cool. What was it again?
[02:12:21] Unknown:
Accident accidental deletion is the worst. I had a one of the trips we went to Europe on, my whole video camera full of pictures, and I didn't understand about formatting. And it asked if I wanted to format the card, and I lost every picture from, you know, 3 weeks in Europe. Yeah. She's not back. The visual memories and I have film, but, like, all these cool pictures I took gone forever.
[02:12:50] Unknown:
Oh, fuck. You gotta come back. Got it. Yes. Let's let's do it. Dude, what what if we do with this for another, let's say, 3 minutes? Because then, on my time is 22/22. Just sort of whatever the fuck they do. You know? Just for the freemasons to then Tyler can make a new episode out of pee.
[02:13:17] Unknown:
Oh,
[02:13:20] Unknown:
but that's so funny how it goes, man. That's so funny how it goes. I know that you do not like to be on shows. Not anymore because of some stuff that happened in the past, and and everyone deals with that. Right? Because when you want to say something from the bottom of your heart without any without, kicking someone in the groin or whatever. I know that you are not that person. Absolutely not. But it's really, really, shitty sometimes when when when shit hits the fan, you wanna speak like you want to speak and you will be silenced. I think that that ties in good with with all the stuff that we talked about because a lot of stuff that we talked about is about, you know, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, Fuck up.
And we we can be silenced. We can be. We're on the Zorn Ranch production, so we can be silenced.
[02:14:13] Unknown:
And it doesn't do any good. No.
[02:14:17] Unknown:
No. What's, what's the last train of thought that you have to, or or message that you wanna put out in this, in the ether? Well,
[02:14:32] Unknown:
last you know, I was on once solo, then we did the our little threesome. And then now you have your new questions. So my, definition of value is, you know, it has to something that resonates with you. It makes you feel good, and I think can uplift and help help others. Right? And success is finding that value. Your success is if if you can achieve that value of of, you know, of finding it, like how you can help people beside yourself. And I my last one was like, you know, treat people better than you wanna be treated. But also now it's just try and make the extra effort to be present, to help people, to to not be outcast.
[02:15:24] Unknown:
Wow. And credits to you, Eric, bringing up these questions because you told me like, oh, Rob, you gotta ask these questions. And I integrated them. And, sometimes most of the times I think about it like, okay. First thing I gotta do is introduce my guest and and to write and to ask the questions. I think that that works the best because then you you got a feeling like who is there with you. Right? You know? So thank you, Eric, for, for your time and energy to hopping on this organized productions for part 3. And, probably is gonna be a part 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 1. You know? Yeah. And we're gonna talk to each other, in in the app. It's a 22, 22 right now here in the Netherlands.
So thank you. I have a great time again, and I hope you enjoyed yourself too. Big kudos to you, man. And let's let's, make 2025 the best year ever. Yep. Let's do it. Okay. Big virtual hug to you, my friend. Always. Love you, bro. Alright. Thank you, man. I will see you. Alright. Dreams. He's a pain in the ass. Black as a night, god showed me the light. He's a pain in the ass. Black
Skip me bridge like squirrel, baby.
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What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect for the lore.
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Welcome fellow human to the disorganized productions podcast. The show that fuels your spirit, ignites your potential, and helps you become the best version of yourself. I'm your host, Rob, and each episode, we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you, tap into your limitless potential, and conquer life's challenges. Hey there, fellow human. Welcome to another episode of Disorganized Productions. If you wanna get get in contact with me, please be free and write an email to disorganized productions at gmail dot com.
If you want to check out more stuff that I'm doing, please check my link tree, which is also slash disorganized productions. And for all you producers out there that helped the show, that liked and subscribed, and even donate to the show, thank you. Without any further ado, enjoy the show. Ladies and gentlemen, fellow human, welcome to another special episode of disorganized productions. Today's guest is the returning guest. It's I think it's the 3rd time now. And we had a we had a threesome. We had a right? With with the snake turban hat. And my guest today is, the special, the mister Eric Phineas.
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What's up, my brother? How are you?
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Oh, challenging, to be honest with you. Yeah? A lot of people know a little bit about my situation. Wanna talk a little bit about it, and then we can, we can have a good ramble on. Because, eventually, I had to, get out of my trailer. Yeah. Sold I sold for only very, very little price, the, my home, basically. And now I was searching for a mobile home. But, it comes too challenging, especially here in the Netherlands, because it's too cold. There's no place that you can stand, or you have to pay for it. And if the car breaks down, you're basically fucked.
Right. So, everyone that's listening here in the Netherlands, especially in the region of Limburg, which is my, on the countryside here, on province of Limburg. I'm looking for a a a place to stay for, like, a room or whatever with the shower and the bath. That's, that's all I need. So I can do my podcasts with all, rest. Because last time when I did a podcast, I did it in the cantina of the work where I'm at. And, people buy bashed in because it's a cantina. So I had to say, shut up. I'm doing a podcast. It was with, Skunkle Phil. Yeah. So, yeah, challenging times. I'm I'm now I have the the luxury that, I'm in a very big, motor home, which is property of my boss.
I can sleep here. I got it warm. That's that's really cool. I'm really,
[00:04:03] Unknown:
thinking. Yeah. I saw that. When you were doing the unchanged church that you were in a a camper van or motor home. I didn't know if that was yours, if you'd bought it, or or what that?
[00:04:12] Unknown:
Oh, no. If I can afford this, I could afford a a fucking island. Right. But I just to be honest with you, Eric, I was talking to my buddy who is on a bike, on a motorcycle from the Netherlands to New Zealand. And he's now stuck for a couple of weeks, a couple of strongs as I prefer to say, in Iran. And he said, it's beautiful here. And it doesn't cost a dime. So if you have a pizza and a and a and a Coke on the sides, it's gonna cost you, like, $1. Petrol, diesel is like 25¢.
[00:04:50] Unknown:
Well, that's why they're the bad guys. Right? Because they're living, outside of our matrix, and they're probably all happy and not under our thumb. You know what I mean? Absolutely.
[00:04:59] Unknown:
Absolutely. And I really liked it when we just, hopped on disorganized productions. You are wearing this shirt of disorganized productions. Wow. Look at that. You can purchase it in my shop for for those who will look at it. And, of course, in in in my link tree, there's a there's a a link to my web shop. And I'm and it was what what it's coincidence. This is the art that Eric made.
[00:05:28] Unknown:
With the where's the squirrel with the squirrel on the side. Oh, wait. I gotta figure that out. Yep. And branches like a squirrel. And and and if you look at the moon I mean, you can't see it, but it's perfect. Like, it looks like the Mortal Kombat dragon in the moon, and that's a real picture I took of the moon on my crappy phone.
[00:05:47] Unknown:
Wow. Well, how are you doing, man? Because it's been it's been, like, 6 months or something like that that we talked what what we talked to our on, on our Telegram groups. But since we really got into a conversation, it's been a while.
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Yeah. It's been quite a few strongs.
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Yes. And,
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so I'm great, man. First off, happy Thor's Day. Happy Thor's Day. I don't have anything with me. I'm Yeah. All those all good. This is my cost. This is my custom cup I made with the hammer and Wow. Skull. Got my got my rune on it and Yeah.
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I love that. Yes. Because your are your your ancestors are coming from up here. Right? So from the Scandinavian. Yeah. We're sweetfins. Sweetfins.
[00:06:34] Unknown:
Sounds good. Or a mixture of both. Yeah. Some some Swedish and some Laplanders and yeah. No. I've been great, dude. I was surprised. I I really thought you were gonna be down there in South America for a little bit longer. I was like, I didn't pending on I knew you had to come back and deal with your with your trailer and all your property and stuff, but I was like for a while, I was like, I was just thinking, like, I could see him saying, fuck it. I'm staying down here for, like, a month or 2 and just gonna live in as an Indian and and, you know, go all native and and then come back. But that's a lot of coordination. You know what I mean? That's
[00:07:10] Unknown:
That was the whole issue because, eventually I wanted to stay longer and I had the money to stay longer. Because when you're already there, the the the life is not that expensive. But I had to, I had to burn some bridges here, especially with my trailer. And, that was last last minute work. And I did it all by myself. So not only the the the selling, but also the, the movement. So I got 3 friends. One of them sits on a motorcycle on his way to New Zealand. The other one said last year, he said, well, you have different points of view about life, and I want And another friend of mine, he has 2 beautiful daughters, young girls.
He went through his back, so he he could pick up a screwdriver and give it to me. And that's that's a little bit that. So I had to break down everything. But, hey, it worked out. It took me about 2 strongs to get my back a little bit more back in shape because it was so fucked up. It was really fucked up. But, yes, everything has been so everything that I possess is now scattered all over 3 or 4 addresses. Yeah. And I'm I'm basically, I have the the stuff that I really need in my in my little car, which is, I think, one of the smallest car you can purchase from Volkswagen. But, hey, it's driving. I got my gear with me, and and now I got very lucky to, to have a good friend and a good boss that, provides me this awesome, awesome place to be here.
So, but I'm, yes. This is just for, occasionally for for for a few, you know, few few days or maybe a few strongs. But, eventually, I'm looking for a a room or a little apartment and stuff like that to, to get my shit done. And of course, 2025 is going to be a big year. Because I'm I'm I don't know how, but, I figured that out a few times. I'm go I'm coming back to America for sure. Yes.
[00:09:17] Unknown:
Well, let me know if you're somewhere close so we can see you or whatnot. Or I can sure. I can figure out a place for you to stay if you come through Utah for a day or 2 or whatever. You know? You are on the list.
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Alright. You're on the list.
[00:09:32] Unknown:
So if you look man. If you look to all of our all of our friends, shout them out. And all the chats, all the creators, you know, you all know who you are. There's so many now. How can we name them all? You know? It's like Shall we try? Shall we try? So we got Ben from Unchanged Brain.
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We got Davey Wavy from the Rat Pill Cartel podcast. We've got Stein, which is a Dutch guy with a beautiful English podcast, the Greyhorn Pagan podcast. Then we got Milton with, life is a dream, death is awakening. I love that motherfucker. Well, not a motherfucker. Probably a daddy fucker. Right? Inside joke, baby. So I think yes. These are the the content creators when it goes to podcasting. And, of course, we got some beautiful individuals that make everything happen. Like you, you are one of the philosophers in in our group that that, glues everything together with beautiful, beautiful writings and beautiful thoughts in your mind, together with Rob Sales and Mormon Rishi.
Joost, of course, my my favorite fanboy, our brother from the Netherlands here. He's gonna be on a podcast today with, Max, with the Mad Max, part 2. He's very excited about that. Probably he's gonna fly away in the night tonight. You know? That's right. And of course, the the thing that happens right now when the group and, we we can talk a little bit about it. But, we're combining our powers so we can make something very, very interesting and very big in 2025 to rock the fuck out of podcasting world. That's for sure.
[00:11:25] Unknown:
That's for sure. I like it. I hope it all comes together. I'm rooting for all y'all and, you know, whatever I can contribute, you know, I'm here.
[00:11:32] Unknown:
Well, if if you're just there, that that's that's that's one. Right? And to participate, that's number 2. So, Eric, if you look back to, well well, let let me say this. Today is, 27 December. For us, it's in the middle of mid winter. So we do not celebrate within 3 or 4 days, New Year's Eve. Yeah. I don't probably you don't either. Right? 1st April is normally, for me, my new year. But if you look back through this year for a lot of people that are listening to this podcast who think, what the fuck is he talk talking about? If you look back through this year, what, what is your biggest achievement this year?
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First off, it is the 27th December. That's my mother's birthday, so shout out to my mom. She's one of my biggest supporters. Congratulations. Okay. I love you. She'll she'll probably listen. She listens to most of my shows. My father's was, 8 days ago on 19th. He just turned 70. So 70 68. And what's awesome is they don't look like when we were kids, like, late sixties and 7 year olds, they don't. It's different. People are I don't know if we're finding our, youth again or something or the poisons aren't working like I planned, but they they don't look like the old decrepit white haired folks that were old when we were young. I don't know. Right. Oh, I just wanna shout them out. My biggest achievement. I think maybe getting over I mean, I still deal with a lot of crap. It's hard for me to just to let go. I have, you know, past traumas and just crap that's in my mind all the time, but being able to let go of that some more, I think being a little more present in the moment with my family and, really been working hard on my patients, not trying to get upset so easily and so quick, you know, because they're children. They don't know. It's my job to teach them not, you know, not punish them, but to teach them. And just being there and and and and sacrificing so much of my personal things that I I would like to do and and want yeah.
Interests for them, you know, and putting all my time into the into their growth and development, I would say, is probably my biggest achievement. Nice.
[00:13:52] Unknown:
And they they were champion. Right? Because you're coaching your, one of your daughter's team?
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Yeah. So my my oldest daughter well, they both played, my oldest daughter, she's been playing softball for a couple years now. She's 12. My youngest is 6. She played she played a summer softball and then a t ball league. But my oldest, yeah, she made an all star team this summer that I helped coach, and we won a couple tournaments. We won a state championship tournament and a couple other ones. And then she, substituted for, a com a competition, a competitive team, an advanced team, and they just asked her to join the team. So now she's had a few practices with them. She's on that new team. So I'm excited for this next spring and summer to to be in this higher competitive level to see how that go.
[00:14:39] Unknown:
Wow. She's kicking butt. Yes. And and Go and of course, with with the achievements, also some some stuff that's that's, a little bit negative. Did this year, I thought that, dear, it was your uncle that passed away with with the music. My grandfather. Your your grandfather. Wow. Yeah. And, I was listening to his music. Dude, that that that guy, Rock Tom, man.
[00:15:12] Unknown:
That's so and it's so Oh, that song. Oh, that song I posted. No. That was okay. That was my grandfather did pass on this year. He was 98, so shout out to gramps. He he kicked ass. But, no, that song I posted was was my dad's really good friend, Brad Bateman. I'll shout him out. RIP. He, yeah, he was like an uncle to me growing up. He had they put a little band together and he, you know, he got frustrated that how hard it is in the music industry and stuff, and and he's just really he was just the coolest guy, like, such a badass downhill snow skier and the most amazing water skier. And so, at work, I have my old Ipod hooked into a little radio that I play every once in a while when I'm bored of other stuff. And so I have a couple of his songs on there, and that one just popped in that day, and I was getting all emotional. I was like, I gotta share this with the group and Yeah. You know, get it out there. Let them hear his you know, because he has, you know, some cool songs and yeah, it's just yeah. He was cool. Yeah. Yeah. I felt bad.
This, you know, dealing with death, it's it's a hard thing for a lot of people. And so this was the first, Christmas, you know, like I said, my my father's father just passed away, and my stepmother, his wife, her father passed away, like, literally 2 months later. So this was their first Christmas without their fathers. Oh. Both of the mothers had previously passed, but now both parents and so I could tell they're having a rough time. And so my friend, that song I posted, when his parents died, he really couldn't handle it.
And he was he was deep into a lot of the conspiracy stuff that we are too. That's that's why it's another bummer he's not around because he would be in the group getting down probably too. You know what I mean? Right. And he'd be 70 now. And yeah. So it was just really rough. Every time I'd see him, I try and try and tell him, like, come on. You need to come back up sometimes in the winter, and let's go ski it, and let's go, you know, let's do some stuff because he was like that cool uncle as a kid. You know, like I said, such a awesome athlete.
You know? And he he would smoke weed and shit. You know? So when I was a older man in our twenties and we'd, you know, smoke wood and stuff, he was just a cool guy. You know? And so yeah. It was a it was a sad loss and, you know, I've had a quite a few I mean, everyone, we all have, and I just try to I think about them all the time, almost every day. All my you know, because his was his was the suicide, and I've had a bunch of I've had, you know, I've had probably 10 or more from that. And Wow. Ben brings up all the time all the veterans, like, what, 22 a day? It's just it's such a sad thing, and it's I don't know I don't know if it's natural or not or if it's something of the system that we're placed in that they've created that people find it so hard and that's such an easy exit. I know I know, like, in the ancient samurai culture, it was, you know, death before dishonor, so they would sometimes commit suicide because it would be better than dying in a crappy way in their eyes, I guess. But, yeah, suicide, it's a tough it's a tough thing, and and I've had quite a few, and I remember them all the time, and I just try to when they pop in my mind, you know, say their name out loud and and give them positive vibes, let them know I'm thinking about them, and, you know, and keep them keep them alive. You know? Yes. They're still
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yeah. They're still in here. You know? I think I think that's the that's the the best thing you can do. Think about them. That's the energy that connects to you with with them. And then that keeps them alive. That's that's right. And, shouting out their names. Yes. And they're the the thing is it's I was talking to a friend the other day. He's a he's an Aquarius too, and he has a a great philosophy and a great, look at the world. And he said, you know, we can blame a lot about the system, but if you if you really know how the system works, we know that a lot of things are rigged and a lot of things are are stupid or fucked up. And it's too it's too amateuristic what they try to do even with the with the with the host of the of the moon landing. So he said, I really like that. It's like, what if they want you to know that everything is fake? So they give you, like, a big, what what's it called? What is this called in the Not a wink.
Yeah. Not a wink. Just like boo. You know? And if you look at that, that doesn't mean that if you come back from from battle and you saw some horrendous things and saw some of your bodies dying and stuff like that, or maybe when you realize when you come back that nobody gives a shit about you, especially the system where you fought for their freedom, for all these corrupt idiots. Damn. I think that's a very hard pill to swallow, to be honest with you. And, when there's no one well, you know, okay. When you're going on the train station or on a bus, they say, thank you for your service. That's not gonna cut it. You know, that's not gonna pay your bills. You you ain't you know, it's not that if you have 100 blessings that all your pain goes away or all your trauma.
And I think that's that's that's really hard for a lot of people.
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And and the the purpose aspect too. I think I think it was for mental Raul who had his buddy on. It was a a returning vet, and he said it was the purpose, like, you know, when you're when you're deployed and you're enlisted, you have a title, a job, a purpose, a duty. You know, you know what you need to do, and then you get back, and you you're kinda lost, and you don't fit in. And and, you know, the condition you know, they've trained you to be a soldier. They've brainwashed you, basically. Not I mean, that's kind of a crappy word, but they've trained you. They programmed you to think and look at things a certain way and to deal with things a certain way.
And that's for the battlefield, not for society. Mhmm. You know what I mean? And when you don't have a maybe a a reprogramming or a deprogramming to help them, you know, come back, that that makes a big thing. And and they might have them, and they might not wanna do them just for a ego or pride reason, like, oh, I don't need that. And then also finding them jobs or duties or purposes to fulfill to, you know, to help society. You know what I mean? There's a million security positions and different things and, you know, that they could be or even even something that's complete opposite of that. Like, a lot of them might if they don't wanna be in that battle mode anymore, you know, because some guys love it and are addicted to it, and some guys just wanna get away from it.
Help them out with being a farmer. You know what I mean? A trail guide, you know, a a park ranger in nature. You know what I mean? Something that they could find peace where it's not they have to deal with so many people in that stressful environment that triggers them or you know what I mean? Right.
[00:22:34] Unknown:
What about if you look at the news, a lot of people do, and you see that everything is so fucking rigged that everything you fought for in that country is manipulated on the news. And you have a completely different point of view of reality when you were there about the people, about the the country, about your your service, and all that stuff. You know? And then you come back, and and everyone is gonna tell you that, these bad people, and they they do that, and they do you know, that fucks around with your mind, man. And and just like you said, you know, if you are in the mental ward or you are imprisoned, you have some, reintegration programs to get back into society.
And, if you deployed on I I I don't know. I'm just rambling. But I think if you deployed as an American soldier, you come back. It's just like, okay. You're back. Well, you got some money in your pocket, and, good luck. You know?
[00:23:34] Unknown:
It's funny. I've I've, you know, I've known a few people that have gone to prison as well, and it's almost like you have a easier time getting back into society from going to prison than going in the military. Like, almost everyone a lot of the people I know that went to prison and came out are successful and doing well, have turned their lives around and and are really kicking ass. And I know so many people that came out of the military, they're struggling, and it's how fucked up is that? Like
[00:24:05] Unknown:
It's it's unbelievable.
[00:24:07] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:24:08] Unknown:
And I think, especially if you if you go to, to the military with the purpose to help to free the country or to help, basically to defend your own country, and you see how rigged the game is. I mean, I have a big problem with authority. So, when someone tells me what I have to do, I'm going to be on error. You know? I, me come you. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, okay. Sit down, motherfucker. I'm the fucking king. So who the fuck are you?
[00:24:44] Unknown:
I have that on there. You could send a People going in. Think about, like, 911, just one case. How many people they said the recruiting offices were just you know, because everyone they they get hit with this event, and they're told it's one thing, and and the enlistment numbers were down because of the previous Iraq war and what was going on and people like, why are we over here? This isn't defending our freedom. This isn't what I signed up for. And then you have this event and they think it's, oh, now we gotta go get these bad guys. And then they go through this hell for years. You know what I mean? There were 20 years in Afghanistan after that.
And then while you're there or when you come back, you realize all this new information and data that possibly wasn't at all what you thought it was and why you signed up for, and you watched all these people die and all this havoc and wreckage. How does that mess with your mind? Right?
[00:25:37] Unknown:
Or when you wake up and all of a sudden you got from orders from above, like, we're going. What the fuck do you mean? Yeah. We're going. Take your bags. Plane is gonna land, 5 PM or whatever the fuck, and you're going back home. What do you mean, officer? You know? Yeah. We're going back home. We'll leave everything behind. Just like how. Yeah. Why? Yes. And why? That's the I think that really messes with your head. I think it will be the same issue if people are realizing, let's call them normies or, you know, whatever the fuck.
If they realize like, oh, shit, these guys that are, the conspiracy, whatever, you know, are been telling the truth. Yeah. And we do not know. You know, a lot of things, there's some there's not like a real concrete fact that you can say, well, this is the shape of the earth. You know? That the okay. There are some implications that you could say, oh, for me, it's a little bit more my plausible, truth will be on flat or on globe. You know? William Duffy, I had him in my podcast. He was telling about the, 24 hour sun. So I told him what you're gonna prove with the CGI or whatever they they did is that there's a 24 hour sun.
That's it. You you're not gonna prove the the the shape of the Earth. The only thing you could do is, you know, make a rocket that's better built than, Jeff Bezos' dick and and better built than Elon Musk's dig that been flying into space for 65 kilometers. Well, you still miss 238 something miles, thousand to go to the moon. So let's say if you can go 10,000 kilometers up, probably you could see a little bit of the the shape of the Earth. But until then, you know, it's just like you against me with an with an argument and and and with discussion and and with the conversation probably, but that's it.
[00:27:55] Unknown:
Yeah. My wife don't give me shit, you know, about the the flat earth stuff, you know. You guys are just arguing over shit you can never prove, and I'm like, it's not about that. It's it's still it's just about the exchange of ideas. We see holes. There's plenty of holes in the helocentric model. There's plenty of holes in the flat earth model. There's plenty of holes in the hollow earth model. We're trying to expose as many holes to try and find whatever the truth could possibly be. You know? Yeah. Like I said, until we can get that high, we're never gonna know. And anything that's gone that high hasn't shown any curvature so far. And like you said, the exposure of a 24 hour sun in this one particular area doesn't expose the shape.
That just expose is that, and and it doesn't expose that. It could still be the same sun going around in a circle on the flat earth model, and it's that's just what you're seeing. It doesn't and it could expose that it's on the globe model. It was funny, and that how they how it was all themed to the final experiment. There is no final experiment. Not on how science works. Okay. This group of people went to this part of Antarctica. The the normal parts you can go to. Right? Where did they go? Rothschild or Deception Island? The normal parts where everyone can go? Yes. No. They went to a restricted zone. Nope. They went off of the south tip of South America. They didn't go off of New Zealand or Australia or off of Africa or off of Russia or China or India. They went to the same place everyone goes. You want the final experiment would be going to, like, 20 more other places and seeing if you get the same results because that's what scientists are doing it again and getting the same results. You've only done this thing one time and you know what I mean? It doesn't it it proved I don't know if it proved anything because we don't know if it was true or not. That's that's the thing.
[00:29:51] Unknown:
The the funny thing also, and and it's really fascinates me is if you see the sun as they saw for 24 hours, where the hell is the sun from Africa that gives you a lot of warmth, which is the same size? The sun in South Africa, South America. Where's the sun from Sweden, which is basically on the other side of a globe or Australia? I mean, if that could be the same sun. Well, maybe they they prove that there is a sun in Antarctica. But you can't tell me that this sun is the same sun as we see here, or that I experienced in Peru or that has been there in Australia. That makes no sense to me at all.
[00:30:39] Unknown:
Here's the thing too. So I've been fortunate enough to go up above the Arctic Circle in the north, in Lapland up in Finland. I went up to the they have the I can't it starts like a r. It's a weird name where they have the Santa Claus workshop and stuff. Right. And I was up there in the summer. This was in July, and we had it almost a 24 hour sun. It would, like, dip below the horizon for, like, 2 hours, but it wouldn't get dark. And but there was no snow. I understand that Antarctica is the highest elevation, but the reason it's there's no sun in the wintertime for the north, you know, and it and it works out on both that's what I'm saying. It works out on both a heliocentric model and a geocentric model.
But in the summertime in up there in the north, there's no snow. Then in the wintertime when the sun only comes out for a couple hours, there's snow. So I sent, the one video, one of the first ones that posted. I sent it to Alex. I said, hey. Have you seen this yet? And he's like, no. But check this out. Here's my coordinates in the north, and here's the almost exact opposite coordinates in South America. Now at my time in the summer of this year, I'm only getting this many hours of darkness. You know? Right now, they're getting twice as many hours of darkness. Shouldn't they be having the same effect if it's a globe? And And I was like, wow. That's a very interesting point. You know? That's not. You know, there there's it's weird how it never works out. Either way, it's so you know what I mean? I just it's
[00:32:10] Unknown:
Especially when it's when it's, an organized trip from a from a millionaire, which was actually, he was millionaire at the age of 33. Wow. Oh. And he said as a as a minister, as a priest, or what is it called? He said, it's okay to lie. Yeah. What? What? What? You know, Duffy, I'll call you out, man. Let's get into a conversation.
[00:32:42] Unknown:
You Well, it's weird. You know, he's a minister. Right? So that means he went to bible school and learned how to study it and preach it a certain way. And I don't know if you saw that one. I I shared a video the other day of these guys discussing it. And the guy in the video, he went to the same bible school, and he said, what they teach you is to see it from, I think, believe it's Paul's point of view, which Paul never even met Jesus. Never was you know, he was around years later Uh-huh. And went and was kind of the Vatican's boy, you know, the Roman Catholic boy to help spread their style. And what he preaches is not the word of Jesus. And so the whole church and all the pastors and all these people spreading this religion are preaching it from this point of view that's not their idle savior's point of view. Uh-huh. How does that make any sense?
[00:33:35] Unknown:
Oh, is is on my end that the data is a little bit stuck? I have a You're fine on my end. Everything's Okay. Yeah. Well, well, you you it was just a a a glimpse because sometimes my my my data is is not working because I'm streaming my data from a cell phone to to my computer. But now now you're fine. But it's it's really, fascinating that, I call him out on my podcast. Like, okay. So you're minister. What's been written down in Genesis? I mean, one of the first pages of the whole book says something. So you don't believe in that? So how could you be a minister of something that you don't believe? Yeah. Could you question the the name of whatever? You know?
That's it.
[00:34:21] Unknown:
I mean Like, I'm not even a Christian, but the the the who was it that had that big debate in the tent where they got all ugly?
[00:34:28] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:34:31] Unknown:
Yeah. And, it's like your book that you're selling, that you're worshiping, that you're preaching from pretty much says that it isn't a heliocentric model. So how, as a person who represents that, can you go against it? You know, that's a contra huge contradiction.
[00:34:50] Unknown:
Yes. The but that's the perfect franchise stuff because it's like flipping Wendy's burgers with, a lot of other ingredients, but you still can call it Wendy's and you can make money out of it. Oh, Rob. Don't say something like that. That's very controversial. But it's like a commercial. Right? It's like, okay. We got you know, if you if you if you got oh, man. It's it's so, fascinating to me how it's really easy to make things like that go. And then and a lot of people, especially in America, because we got some, stations here that we can see on a TV, you know, like 100, whatever the fuck, stations. Also, the priests on TV, they look evil as fuck, fly around in planes, drive a Rolls Royce, and they're preaching for God.
[00:35:41] Unknown:
And they got that collection plate. Dude, give them that money for God. Oh, man. Let's let's go. Money what does God need money for? I don't.
[00:35:53] Unknown:
I need my my immune. Oh, this is this yes. Alright. My last my last 2. So I also Shout out to another.
[00:36:02] Unknown:
King now. He's he's killing it too. I gotta get some of that stuff. Shout out to.
[00:36:07] Unknown:
Definitely. Because this will be my 60 60th day. So I I purchased a new one, and I really I I can't tell you about Aloe Vera. For me, it really works. I I'm more pumped up. I'm I'm having more, of less issues with my, with my back. So I I destroyed my back with going into a cellar with heavy, heavy crates up to an attic and all by myself, putting it in a car, all that stuff. You know? I'm probably thousands of kilograms that I did by myself. So that that screw my back up because my back is not that good. But I popped 2 or 3 of these in the evening.
And in the morning was like, okay. That's not too bad. Be careful a little bit. But, also, my, my energy my energy level is very high, man. Very, very high. Awesome. Yeah. And I want to chase more of this, of of Aloe Vera, but, I just have to figure out how how to do it. And, yes, King Bao, if you're listening, I would love to have you on my show. And, I think, it's very good to see, especially nowadays, that there are companies that working in for the benefit of our health with proven facts and not like, okay, we got a green leaf on a on a packaging, which has been bought by some big companies, and they give you crap with sugar, but there's a green green leaf on it, so it would be bio.
No. No. Get the real stuff, man.
[00:37:50] Unknown:
Well, and I work for a company, Vox Nutrition. So and they make a bunch of different products. You know, everything from protein powder to, prenatal vitamins, all, you know, every all sorts of different supplements. Well, they have their own mixtures that they make, and then, you know, 20 different companies buy that, put their own label on it. It's the same shit. It's the same shit, different label. Meaning, you can you can go in there and and say, okay. I want this multivitamin, then please add some of this to it. You know, you can make a custom mixture for more money. Right. Right? But it's still it's all coming from the same place, the same vats, the same someone else will buy be able to buy that mixture too and put their label on it. You know? So, like, watch the guys, I would receive in all the products from all over the world, the different ashwagandha and and citru citrulline and all the different things and and, then they'd the guys would come and get all the different ingredients, go in there, mix it up, and then it go to the next room and it get it it'll get put into a a jug for, like, protein powder or capsulated for pills. And then then all the bottles would come out after bottling, and it go to labeling, and then this many that for this company, that many for that, and it's all the same thing. Just so and as we work there, we could just buy the non label stuff.
[00:39:06] Unknown:
Oh, that's good. Ashby Wanda is so powerful also that because you mentioned it. They they told me in Peru to to to have some, and you put it on your eyes, the stuff that they have, they put it on your eyes. You're gonna trip your balls off, but your sight will be better. But, because I only have one and a half day because I, before I flew back, I flew back. So I had something like, oh, maybe this is not the the best thing to do right now, you know, going to the airport. But
[00:39:39] Unknown:
Get your eyes off.
[00:39:41] Unknown:
Yes. Or not. You you know, just like, oh, shit. But did you hear the story of the stick? The stick? Yes. So I was in Peru and, normally I walk with the stick, you know? Yeah. But you know, you can't bring your stick in a fucking plane. You don't do that. You did there's no way. You gotta have a medical license to bring a crane or whatever in in in a plane. So I was walking around. I think it was the second day when we were on the, in the in the community. And I said, oh, man. I just need a stick because I had to go very steep uphill to my tambo. And when it rained, it was really slippery. And I was walking bare feet, because that's better than than having your shoes totally with mud flooded and stuff like that. So, I asked for a stick and there he was. He was there on the roadside or on a on a on a path. I took the stick and I, walk with it for almost 2 strongs.
Nice. But I was so attached to my stick. So I said, I wanna bring it, with me to the Netherlands. How do how you gonna do that with the stick in a plane? This is normal. It's a no go. So what I did, I carved some
[00:40:57] Unknown:
sorry? How much would the shipping be to ship it? Oh,
[00:41:03] Unknown:
the the the the 50, €60, minimum. If it's if it's gonna be there, no. It's just no way to do that. So what I did is, I pretended to be a cripple. And I walked to Equitos crippled. And then, this lady, she, she was telling me some stuff in in in Spanish. And I said, no no So she, she translate then. She said, special assistance. So I said, oh, shit. Now I have to drop my pants, and they're gonna search me for drugs or whatever the fuck. You know? But then all of a sudden someone with a wheelchair came, and he put it on my ass. So just like, what the fuck? So I was sitting there with my stick. So, okay. What now? So they drive you through the, to the terminal.
Yeah. And they they put you right in front of the gate. So I was sitting there. Priority lane is next to me. First task is next to me. I was sitting there with my stick just like, okay. Just pretend to be a fucking crip, Rob. That's all you gotta do. Now comes the fun part. So I this happened two times because my first flight was canceled. So I got back, but I rolled back with my wheelchair. Then all of a sudden, one of the stewards came and helped me, and and put me on the desk. Blah blah blah. 2nd time, same thing was on front. They call out, like, gates are open. All of a sudden, I feel movement, and I look up. And in the back, there was this steward driving me completely alone as the first one who enters the fucking plane.
I thought this is gonna be a good trip. So I put my stake aside. I was normally, I should had 4, transfers, but only had 3. So I was flying to, what's what's what's the what? Oh, to, to Brazil, Sao Paulo, Sao Paulo, Madrid Madrid, Dusseldorf. And all of them air, air, air, air, air, air, airplanes. No. And other airports, I did this trick.
[00:43:12] Unknown:
That's awesome. So did you get it home? Yes.
[00:43:15] Unknown:
Nice. And as I was, getting my stick in the plane from, from Spain to Germany. This old lady comes up to me. She said, why do you wearing a stick? And I thought, oh, fuck. Now, I'm busted. So I said, for walking? Okay. So but when I entered the airport, I was thinking about this, movie with Kevin Spacey, like the usual suspects when he walks out to the, police office that he just walks normal. And I'm gonna pull this trick off too. So they were standing a lot of, police and all that stuff, you know, because you have an international flight from whatever the fuck or they were looking for some terrorists. And here came Rob with the steak. Hey, guys. Good good day.
But I got it. Yes. Yes. Ultimate souvenir. Ultimate souvenir. Yes. That that and it's something like if you work with wood I love wood. Somehow, if you if you're feeling that the the feeling that it's gonna get when you are grounding all the time, the warmth that it's gonna I love sticks. I love sticks. So that's been sad. Dude, you have trimmed your beard so good. Yeah. Milton says I look better, but I you know? Because I don't know.
[00:44:38] Unknown:
My wife likes it better too. She she doesn't like the big wild man, but I love it. I miss it. Oh, okay. I like looking like a werewolf.
[00:44:49] Unknown:
Have you met built in in in personal? Yes. Right? Not yet. Not yet. No. Not yet. Oh.
[00:44:55] Unknown:
We've we've been trying to coordinate. So I told him because he wants me to go out there, and I just don't have my father was talking about maybe doing a trip, like a family trip to San Diego next year, but I don't know if that's gonna happen or not. And I was like, oh, if we do that trip, dude, that's only an hour drive. We can meet up anywhere for a day or 2 or go to the beach or whatever. And then, I don't know. So I'm not completely planning on that, and then he of course, he wants me to just come and stay where you guys did and hang out. And I was like, it's just I don't it's just a far trip for my family and stuff where I was like, we could meet in the middle because, if he went to Vegas, there's another place an hour, like, north of Vegas, called Mesquite.
And small town, like, 3 little casinos and whatever. And my dad has property down by there, and so it's kind of the same distance. We each have to go, like, 5 hours. I'm all then we could hang out and I could take him out in the desert on the 4 wheelers, you know, go shoot some guns, whatever, you know, hang out and sit by the campfire, have a, you know, not have a nice tour relaxing under the stars. Right. Hang it. You're gonna go not not a big city. You know what I mean? Yeah. Something new for him, easier for me. It would just be, I think, easier and cheaper for both of us, maybe. I don't know. Mhmm. So we've been trying to coordinate something like that.
[00:46:20] Unknown:
Oh, man. The the I think that's, that that really pumped my, everything. When when when he he he was arranging this, okay, just come to LA. Just like, what? Yeah. Come to LA. And, the bond you get with with all the people. And, yeah, some of them, of of course, things happen. And and, everyone has his own personality, his own individual, like, train of thought and stuff like that. And that it's not always the the the easiest way, to be honest with you. I I was feeling like, yeah, a little bit the devil in the the devil in the stack. You know, the joker in the stack will also live with the devil in the stack. But, yeah, great friendships. And, eventually, I think when you are, having all these people together and that gives you such such a, a bond, you can't do that online virtual. Because even now, we we have the urge in the group that we are now to hang around with each other in real life once. Meet 100%. You know, just to get that feeling going to, to see each other, to hug each other, hug the fuck out of each other and, you know, look each other right in the eyes and, and do some crazy stuff. And I'm I'm I'm sure it's gonna happen for 2025.
That's, otherwise, I have to call, Greg, the the doctor, about numerology and say you you you were talking shit. And I think he he isn't. I think he isn't. So, yeah. Let's make things happening, man. So Yeah. The first hug always makes a difference. Right? Yes. Yes. What's, what's your favorite, what's your favorite conspiracy?
[00:48:19] Unknown:
I don't know. Right now, I I'm enjoying, just the, the presidential one, how they're all connected and how I you know, it's just a game, you know, 2 wings of the same bird, and I just it's it's such a interesting one, but at the same time, it'll be such a letdown, you know, because right now here, it's, you know, the Trump people won and their savior is about to come in and they just both sides do this. They they just ignore all the signs. Like, I I had a discussion with my friend the other day. He was at so he contacts me and asks me kinda what I think about what's going on, so I let him know. And then he kinda gets upset with my answer. Not okay. We have disagreements. We think different on different things, which is fine. Right. And I'm like, well, dude, you contacted me and asked me. I'm just telling you what I think. You can't be upset that I don't think the same as you.
And he's trying to he's trying to sell me of that that that Trump's a a bigger demon than Biden. I'm going, Trump's been around in the political game for a few years. Biden's been in there longer than I've been alive and doing nothing good. All the shit shit's done. All the shit he's done is bad. And I'm going, so how can his 4 years of presidency, what did he do that was good erase his previous 40 years of of nastiness, like, of, like, a corrupt, you know, shit hole. And I was like, yeah. And Trump didn't really do anything in his 4 years, and they blame it on, oh, he didn't know. He he put the wrong people around him. Well, now he's saying this is gonna be my secretary of this. This is gonna be this. None of these people are good people. They're still all the swamp that he said he's gonna drain, and they're still all warmongering, you know, Zionist. It's just like, I don't know.
It's like you guys don't have an excuse this time. So when it when he's not your savior and it doesn't work out for our better, what is it then? You know, are we us conspiracy guys, it's that's an I told you so. We don't want we don't look into conspiracies because we wanna be right. We look into them because, one, it's it's mind stimulating and it's and it's fun and it's crazy and scary, but also because, like, hey, these are questions you should ask and these are things you should look at. And when you, intentionally ignore them, be ignorant. That's terrible for everyone. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. No. No. That's, you know, the the project blue beam stuff, like, you know, all these drones they got flying around is pretty hilarious. It's not it's just kind of dumb to me, like, it's obvious, you know, oh, they don't shoot any of them down, blah blah blah. They're overall the military bases because that's where they're being launched from. It's their Right. Don't shoot your own shit.
They're testing out some new shit. If it wasn't theirs, believe me, they'd be shooting it down. Like
[00:51:16] Unknown:
Yes. Oh, but that's that's the philosophy that that, that the friend of mine has. Like, they they put it so in plain sight, so amateuristic, like a c movie, not not even a b movie. Like, look, we're we're a clumsy clown comes in, and don't you see it? It you really do not see it? You don't question this kind of stuff. Then you're fucked because we have more to play. But if you see it just like, oh, come on. Come on. Because just like you said, it's the same bird with the of, a different wing of the same bird. But in the end, how many times do you really have to deal with it if you do not listening to the radio, you do not look at Internet, You do not look at TV.
My life is fucking fine, man. I can I mean,
[00:52:15] Unknown:
if you don't see it There's some people here that do, so, you know, they they there's, you know, the new bull crap they're spreading now is the bird flu? And I posted a thing about this way back at the beginning of the year because one of the farms in Texas or some shit oh, 33 cases just like just like our shit in 2020. Oh, 33 cases everywhere. It was 33, 33. So then so I posted a thing about it. You know it's fake because here we got 33 cases. So now, the new angle of it is the first person contracted it in Louisiana. It went from a, you know, it went from the the livestock to a person, you know, and they've been here, they've been killing tons of livestock over this crap. You know, they're they're completely messing with the food supply.
And so they don't tell you how old this person is, the same things. The person didn't die, and they didn't tell you what other ailments they have. You know what I mean? They got this person's, like, 70 something with all these, you know, things they got issued. It's like, come on. But since that happened, of course, the the California governor, that Newsome retard, he's been messing with a bunch of their stuff. Like so it doesn't affect us, but it's over there, I guess, if in your certain areas, you know, there's been, you can't get milk and you can't get certain things and things have skyrocketed in prices and stuff. Mhmm. And so it's just you know, I thank my lucky stars. I have somewhat of a self sufficiency.
And I think, like you said earlier, with the the wink wink, they they're showing it to everybody. I think they're testing it now to where look. We've been doing this for so long, and so many people don't see it whereas more and more and more starting to see it. What's it gonna take to get them to react? Mhmm. Or will they even react?
[00:54:10] Unknown:
Right.
[00:54:12] Unknown:
Will they even you know? And they want us to react in a negative violent way because they would rather us mad max kill each other off for them instead of peacefully walking away and creating our parallel system that they have no control over.
[00:54:27] Unknown:
To where they would That's the question. Yeah. Or do they wanna see it show you in plain sight so you can eventually leave that shit behind and purchase the better version of yourself and get into the higher frequency if you let lose all that shit? Because that's, of course, another question. Like, oh, they're killing everyone. Well, I haven't seen anyone killed. Of course, people die. You know, that's that's one of the things when when you wake up, you have to realize, okay. I'm still there, but people around me could eventually not wake up or or, you know, be killed or whatever. But and it made me think it it was a such a great conversation because he has such, great mind. Also a guy who doesn't look at TV and the all the TV. What the fuck is that? I'm not gonna look at a black mirror. But, he had some great points about that. Like, okay.
You know, if I if I have a door, a normal door, and I put a sign on it, freshly paint, how many people would treat that door completely different? You know, that's the whole fucking thing. You know? Nothing happened to the door. Yes. And then just we have to do this in the show because otherwise, I don't know what they what what what whatever they're gonna do. Right? So but 666 and then 333. Oh, daddy. Oh, Freemasons. I'm gonna clip that. And the funny thing is that he said is, like, okay. So what if you really know what's left, right, what's bullshit, or whatnot? And then you come home and some people are lined up with some white, gloves with with the Masonic stuff on. So so it's an, inauguration for to get to the highest level because you see all the bullshit.
And then it all fades away. You're working on your higher self. Then you achieved the 33, you know, the the master step. Like, okay. You figure it out. Now you can go to the next. What about that? So I was thinking, like, that's so fucking great to think and on a completely different level. And, oh, they wanna kill us. Oh, no. No. It's just like
[00:56:47] Unknown:
Yeah. So Davy made a great, I don't know, analogy or whatever. He said, you know, the when he was when he was going into the bible, one of the dreams he had and what what someone said to him, you know, the book either will set you free or imprison you. So all this shit they're doing can either wake you up and set you free to where you'll be your savior and work on yourself and get your shit together or imprison you into their digital prison. And then here's the thing too, like, you're just saying, are they seeing who is intelligent and who is a dumb sheep, who will just be the slave, follow the instructions, or who will question it and has the the mental capacity to understand and break free. So maybe, like you're saying, on a positive note, because everything that's always gets put on a a negative evil blanket.
And, yes, some of it is and some of it how many stupid people do you meet in life? Some shit just happens because they're stupid. That's no nefarious and they're just stupid and make a mistake. But, anyway, so what if, yeah, they come in and they they see all these people like us, for instance, that are rep showing this higher level of intelligence questioning it, trying to figure out solutions. These are the people we want. They're gonna round us up and throw us in a prison. That's just the next stage. Can you survive here for a minute and show us that you can keep that mentality while you're locked up here? While we get rid of all the sheep out here, while we call the herd, and then bring you back in to repopulate a more better intelligent next level way of life or who knows? Like, I mean, there's so many ways to look at it. You have to be open to it can't you know what I mean? It could go it could be the opposite of what we're seeing because so much is already. Right? Exactly.
[00:58:41] Unknown:
And and to be honest with you, if you if you talk about conspiracies, there's always this this, oh, satanic and and what you know, whatever the fuck. And it keeps you on a low balance. It's it's like the root chakra has been filled with fear and, oh, what about this? And if you look at it in a different way so, you know, maybe that's the whole thing. You know? People were telling about satanic stuff. And all of a sudden, all concerts have been satanic, like, right in the eye. Just like, okay. You want that? Because we create the reality with our set with our own brains. You know, when I open up my eyes and the things that I think go in the ether, and then I create my own reality. So when I'm thinking about satanic stuff or rituals or whatever the fuck, okay, Dave got it. You know? Yeah.
And the the the the fascinating thing is, like, every program has been has been broadcasted right now on TV. But on what program have you been digged into? And if you look at a lot of, movies where they recruit people, They go through this recruit program and all of a sudden you don't know if it's real or not. From Jason Bourne, especially that he has to shoot this guy and then he shot it or not. I can't remember, but then that's also part of the program. So did you stick to the program about your belief system, or did you did you now faded away with your belief system? So that's a good I think it's a very good question to think about that.
[01:00:18] Unknown:
You know, they talk about what you know that the deep population. They talk about the deep population. Why would they wanna depopulate the intelligent people?
[01:00:28] Unknown:
Right? Why would they Would you would you be around with 500,000,000
[01:00:32] Unknown:
stupid people? I mean, I guess if that you really are that psycho and you just want that many slaves, I guess. That could be one angle. But on the other angle too, you're gonna have to to repopulate or have the continuation of humanity. So you're gonna want this it's like the idiocracy where now they talk about when you know that deep population. They talk about the deep population. Why would they wanna depopulate the intelligent people? Right? Would
[01:01:04] Unknown:
you would you be around with 500,000,000
[01:01:06] Unknown:
stupid people? I mean, I guess if that you really are that psycho and you just want that many slaves, I guess, that could be one angle. But on the other angle too, you're gonna have to to repopulate or have the continuation of humanity. So you're gonna want this it's like the idiocracy where the smart people stop breeding and the dumb people kept breeding, and then they obviously don't want that to happen. So I don't know. It's just and, like, the the predictive programming they talk about in the movies. So many people don't even see that. They don't even they're not even aware of it. So we went to for my daughter's birthday, she wanted to go see the new Wicked movie.
And it's about the creation of the Wicked Witch from Wizard of Oz and stuff. How she was born, how she got labeled wicked when she's actually the good one. You know, it's all backwards. Uh-huh. And I'm watching the movie, and I see all this shit now because I watch stuff different. You know what I mean? There's you got one of the main supporting people is a super, you know, flaming way feminist gay person, you know, like, you know, purse coming out of his mouth, you know, over exaggerated where it's like, yes, there are some gay people like that, but not the majority. Mhmm. You know what I mean? It's just like the stereotype of all that all throughout the nineties of the black ghetto movies. All these people they tried to create this culture, they manufactured. This is what black people from the hood are like. It's like, no, they're not. Yes. Some people that buy into that shit act that way. And a you know what? A whole shit ton of fucking stupid little white boys trying to fucking be Right. People do the same thing. So nothing you know, it's a it was a a narrative they they created and tried to push and it worked. So I'm watching this film and they got a bunch of it's like at a the school they go to. It's like a like one of those private schools or a preparatory school where you wear a uniform.
Well so they got some of the dudes that wearing pants and, like, a half of a girl skirt because the girls would wear, like, a Catholic school, the skirt, and the guys would wear pants. Right. So you got no one wearing the they got the pants on, but then they have, like, a half of a skirt on. And it's like, what is this trying to represent? What are they trying to say with this? Like, is this person non binary, bi, gay? Like because I don't recall any of the dudes wearing a full skirt, but I remember a bunch of them wearing and you couldn't tell if they were straight or gay. Like, it was it was almost you know, so I was like so I brought it up after the movie with anyone. No. Not one person in our group even noticed it, especially the kids didn't even didn't even register in their mind. Wow. You know what I mean? So it's like is that how they do it? Is it it is it subliminal? So, like, in a couple years when they try to introduce that, it will be normal, and they won't even know to question it or where it came from. So it was just I find it funny. I've I've watched a couple things we've watched recently. I'll see some things and I'll bring it up and no one even sees it that way or, you know, have I been programmed through this last 20, 30 of of blowing up conspiracies to see shit in a a way where I'm where I'm disconnecting myself from people.
[01:04:20] Unknown:
Yes. And what what does it bring us? Yeah. When we talk when we keep on talking about the same stuff, like, okay. Oh, I have a conspiracy podcast. Well, then then, well, 10 episodes in, I'm done. You know? Because everyone has a different point of view about the same bullshit. But I wanna get in a conversation and talk about thing things like Wicked. If you have that in the mirror, it's Mickey. It's Disney. Yeah. Yeah. It just like, oh. And and, of course, that and again, it's hide in plain sight. So, you know? Yeah. It's it's really there. But is it something, like, to make you aware, like, oh, this is another stupid stuff, so keep away from it?
Or is it something, like, you can bite on, like, conspiracy and ramble on, whatever channel that you want on social media. Oh, you you seen this? Well, it's the same fucking negative energy. Yeah. No. If you don't see it or you see it and and especially about the shape of the earth. We're on it, and we can't get off. That's a fact. You know, that that that's something that we should think about. Like, okay. I'll I'll be getting drunk. And I don't care if it's a if it's a glass, if it's a cup, if it's a bottle, I'm gonna get drunk. That's a fact. And, it it how I pour it, it would it, you know, drench the tampon and and and and and put it out your ass. You're gonna get drunk. You know? Oh, yeah. It doesn't matter.
Oh, oh, so, and what's your, what's your oh, yeah. Let's say that. What's your most wicked, let's say, conspiracy?
[01:06:05] Unknown:
Wicked? I don't know. I won't see. I mean, it's hard. It's like, they wanna the you know, all fingers are pointing to a certain group of people that are supposedly in control of the world and, you know, are trying to you know, that look at all of us as Goyam and and less than an animal, and it's okay to to rape children to a certain age. And, they wanna you know, like I said, they we're not on their human level, so it's okay to do whatever to us. That one's pretty wicked, but is it true or not? I mean, they they do say they are the chosen people. They do give us the 3 Abrahamic, versions of religion, and it seems to be that that they control them and they they direct them to achieve their goals.
I don't you know, if you look at it that way, it is pretty wicked. I mean, it's pretty evil. What but is any of it true? Like, that's the thing, you know, like, you we can look at it as wicked, you know. Right. And then, you know, obviously, they want us to know that aliens exist before we'll know anybody off of Epstein's list or Diddy's list, and and it's like, you know, I was I I blew my my stepfather's mind on Christmas because he said something about it, and I said, well, is Epstein even dead? And he hadn't he hadn't even thought about that. He was like, my he could just be on another island. That's all He lists. And then you get you get approved people that they give you part of the list. Okay. These people are good enough that we can sacrifice. They can they're they've done the job we needed them for. Now they can go away. They're expendable.
And They're actors. Yeah. They're all actors. I mean, it's they say the world's a stage. I mean, you look at all these people and, you know, people can can look the same without being the same person or related. You know? Like, I can I can make one of those videos of the same face with my nephew and his great great grandfather on his father's side that we were never alive together, never met, but I could do one of those videos that you think is the same person? Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, that's a software. They say we all have a doppelganger somewhere throughout the world that's not even related to us. I mean, that's possible. We're all humans. I mean, that's a species.
[01:08:43] Unknown:
That that's just a species so you can line up everything if you want to, especially with AI. I mean, AI will will will take care of that. Yeah. And and just I've been on that. Let let's say that the world's a stage and that, all of a sudden 2025, they they gonna tell you, like, Trump has been played by, Keanu Reeves. You know, Biden has been the Jim Carey. All these these so there there's someone who's who's writing the script, the script of unbelievable stuff. And, I think that a lot of people that are in the, in the game of money and and power. So first of all, if you have a lot of power and a lot of money, if if someone tries to sew your footstool, you know, like, oh, they are all eating babies in this blood. You would say, oh, get rid of that motherfucker. Just like that overnight because you're so powerful and you have a lot of money.
And if you are looking at the plan like, okay, they wanna kill us ever. They wanna kill everyone. Wouldn't you be stupid to do that over such a long period? I mean, if you have the power and the and the stuff, you could do it. Okay. I'm I'm done.
[01:10:06] Unknown:
I mean, we they or, you know, they is that how they want us to think about it? Oh, it's stupid to to drag it out that long, but what do they care? That just keeps them in power longer.
[01:10:16] Unknown:
Yes. But it keeps us in fear. Oh, the spray in the skies again. Oh, the food is rigged. Oh, the the water has been poisoned. Oh, the it's it's like, okay. I'm I'm I'm awake as a conspiracy terror terrorist, therapist, whatever. But I'm still afraid of everything because they wanna poison me. Yeah. That's what I realized 2 days ago. Just like, holy fuck. That it keeps me although I think I'm I'm, you know, I'm I'm on the right path with with a lot of stuff that I did and a lot of stuff that I do, just like, let that be.
[01:10:52] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:10:53] Unknown:
Because and it's really hard, especially in this world, you know. Hey. You heard about this, or you you you take Instagram before you know you are 2 or 3 reels, you know, and you see some stuff or you see some, you know, this happened or that happened. I've I've tried to get a filter out of it. Like, I don't I don't give a shit. I don't care. But still, you're human, so you're very curious about stuff.
[01:11:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I saw a good one in the day. Said if it's out of your control, it should be out of your mind.
[01:11:25] Unknown:
Yeah. But it's hard. It is really hard. It's it's it's I think that they and and especially if you think, like, that the the people that the powers that be, you know, if you if you it's so easy to pull off, like, something like a Hollywood production. And these Hollywood productions are so crap nowadays compared to the eighties nineties when there was real movies. So that's a fake station. And, realizing that probably the powers that be have 20 to 30 years of more advanced technology. I mean, 150 years ago, we were supposedly having no, power, no toilets, horse and buggy. And look at us now, you know, in in 100 let's say 100 years how advanced we think that we are.
Imagine that you are ahead 20 or 25 years with technology. That's that's a tremendous, huge leap of of of stuff that you can do.
[01:12:40] Unknown:
I mean, we're talking on a Zoom. Right? Supposedly, did the Nazis have that in World War 2?
[01:12:47] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. I suppose I mean, it's a real Are you willing to do it in Africa or not? I want it all burned down. Yeah. Right. But our fear, we can do that because we have no troops. They get the troops all over there. I think they did, and they had, what was it Bluetooth already? Something like that?
[01:13:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Something. It's crazy.
[01:13:10] Unknown:
Yes. But they were it now. Yeah. And they they were also very specialized. It's 150 kilometers from here in Paderborn. You got the Extianstein. And in, near Paderborn, there's Wewelsburg. Now Wewelsburg is a a tripod castle, And that was from, from Himmler. So the SS was trained there. And he had in the center of that, castle, that's the the black sun. Yeah. So the the the Nazis were very occult and they were very interested in the occult stuff, so secret stuff or hidden stuff. When you're playing, I love the game, return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein New World Order.
Oh, oh, the end boss looks like Schwab. Oh, no kidding. And it's about an advanced Nazi regime that won World War 2 and is now in reign of the earth. What did you
[01:14:17] Unknown:
yeah. Did you so that goes with, the man in the high tower. Have you ever heard of Yes.
[01:14:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. And Iron Sky. That's a little bit more, ludicrous and a little bit more fun, which is a really good good movies, 2 of them. So and, especially, I was listening to, Tinfoil Hat. And he had Al Borriada's own. And and I think that he had someone on, about the knots. Oh, fuck. I can't remember the name. But it was 2 episodes about, pointed out that the knots were still in, in power right now because they flew to Argentina and all that stuff. So that that was very interesting. Like, okay. So they make a game out of it, about crazy technology that the Nazis are ruling this world. And now all of a sudden, like, connecting the dots. Oh, they probably did still do. And he had, a list of more than 100 companies, Coca Cola, Porsche, VW, McDonald's, Media Market, Action oh, you name it. They were still involved with Nazi money. So okay.
What if, right, what if they never lost? I think that's a fair question that I always said, like, they never lost. What what what do you think? I think that's spot on. You look at history too. Like
[01:15:45] Unknown:
so we had, here in America, the revolutionary war where we created the declaration of independence that we're gonna be separate from England, and we're gonna be our own country, and we're not gonna, you know, and you see the factors of why they went to war, which are nothing in compared to today of what's going on. And then you see the our supposed civil war, which was, you know, the north versus the south, and they've labeled it all about slavery when it had nothing to do with slavery. It had to do with tariffs and the the banks of New York controlling and fleecing the south, and there was slave labor in both the north and the south.
And you see that the the slave narrative isn't what has been sold. You know, there, you know, there was the first, slave owner was actually a black Angolan royalty guy, and there was only certain super rich people had slaves. I mean, there's still slavery today in a bunch of Muslim controlled countries. And then ever since the revolutionary or the civil war, you know, England came and got involved and helped the north win. Whereas Russia was trying to help the south, then they did, like, a tariff and a blockade and and pass all the stuff where Russia couldn't help about the south. Yeah. England could help the north. And then America's been one giant, hey, buddy. We're back with England now ever since then. So it was like, did they ever are those wars even real? Did they ever separate? Or is it just a story created to tell us to build a false sense of pride and patriotism and that were these people so we'll be, you know, enslaved without even looking at it and be a product of them because England doesn't create or produce anything. They just have banks and they control other people's production and capital investments. You know what I mean? How does the tiny island have so much power?
The if they weren't Makes no sense. If they weren't in control of other places that were bigger with the actual power. So, yeah, I can see the Nazi thing for sure. Why not? We we we're in league with England. We make this fake war and where real people are gonna die because we don't care. We can sacrifice people. We don't they don't give a shit. They're not they don't have that part of humanity where they care. Mhmm. And we'll create this new state of Israel, and then some of us will adopt that religion to go into hiding, and they can't ever question us or because we're the victims of these evil people that we actually were before we switched switched into the victims. Yes. You know? Yes. Yes.
[01:18:30] Unknown:
That's that's like I can totally see it. It's it's a genius plan, but be careful because there are some geniuses working on this plan for a long time.
[01:18:41] Unknown:
For a long time. I mean, it's nothing new. It's the same shit with Rome.
[01:18:47] Unknown:
Yes. What about Russia? I mean, Russia took care of Berlin. It took when you see band of brothers, the the the the this movie, when they landed on d day, they took a year a year to go to Berlin. A year. That's crazy. Insane. So without the Russians, we were doomed. Yeah. So why would you eventually, when they when they did their part, they they took care of the the Nazis or whatever, say, oh, now you're the bad guy. Now I don't wanna do anything with you because you are the just like, what? That that makes no sense. That makes no sense to me. So you're gonna you help us out and know you're the bad guy. Why does nobody think about that? Probably, we can talk about it because it's not censored yet. We know about the other thing other things, you know, the these ethnical groups that are very on the fire, literally and figuratively, nowadays.
You can't talk any that's red flag number 1 when you can't talk about a topic or a subject and someone says, no. It is not allowed to talk about it. That's like, okay. I'm done. This is all fake. Yeah. Then it's Because, otherwise, you you would come with facts and with, normal, you know, train the you know, normal brilliant minds that come together and talk about some stuff. And you can say, now you're talking stupid because facts here, that and that and that. But all the facts that you have nowadays have been lined up just like against that narrative.
[01:20:23] Unknown:
Yeah. And and if you can't talk about it, you can't solve the problem. So they don't want a solution.
[01:20:30] Unknown:
No. It's it's it's very it's very discriminating against every other religion or belief system to say, no. We are the only ones that have been protected by law. Fuck you. But, yeah, fuck you. But why should you be protected by law? That makes no sense at all. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. No. No. But, I mean,
[01:20:53] Unknown:
lots of it doesn't make sense. We'll go we'll circle back to you you brought up Genesis earlier with Will Duffy and stuff. Here here's one that I've been tripping on. You know, it it talks about the it tells the whole creation story, and the creation story in that one is similar to so many creation stories. Here's one I need a a more advanced researcher than me to look into. It always talks about like it says, in the beginning, God hovered over the waters, plural. You know what I mean? The waters, plural, then created it and separated the waters from the waters, but it never says that god created the waters.
That's the one thing it didn't create. The waters were already there.
[01:21:38] Unknown:
Right.
[01:21:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Who created the water? And we've seen how magical you know, we brought up the the the Japanese author's book, you know, the hidden messages in the water, and and all these things of of how intelligent water is and what it holds and how it is the key ingredient for all of life. And so one thing that goes in you and comes out the same, you know what I mean? It doesn't change. It doesn't even though it water can change from a solid liquid gas, it has all the, but it's still when he goes in you, it still comes back out water. It just brings out crap with it. Yeah. That's just something I've been tripping on is is there any of those creation stories that say that something created the water? There's none.
Not that I know of. I don't That's a good one. My own personal I've been tripping on that, like, the water is such a key thing. Yes.
[01:22:34] Unknown:
What created the water? I think somebody pointed out that, the water, and he he he talked about it very, very nicely that what if, god is water? Yeah. It all makes sense. It all makes sense. Yeah. And especially if you, looking at all the things you can do with water. Without water, there's no life. That's for sure. So that's that's that's a good fuel to start with. You know? And and consciousness, oh, yeah. It has consciousness. If you talk to it and you say shitty shit, you you're gonna enter yourself a shitty water. So did it it all comes together when you when you have water. And, of course, I think, Dan Pena pointed out in one of these, things that, the royal family and and the the the big corporations are are buying water rights since the beginning of time.
That's something to be very, very, you know, oil. Okay. You can drive your fucking car. That's okay. So go to Iran. It's gonna cost you 0.5 25¢ for a liter of, diesel. I don't think 0.40¢ for 4 for for liter of gasoline. So what happened to my prices with €2 something for 1 liter?
[01:23:52] Unknown:
Well, in here, there's always a drought, yet they're selling the water to other places. Like, in Arizona. Arizona is a desert, but it has a lot of water. But there the farmers and people can't get it because, Middle East people are buying it to feed their to grow alfalfa that because they can't grow alfalfa. It's illegal because it takes so much water. So they they can buy our water and our land to grow it here and ship it over there to feed the camels. Oh, that's the livestock suffer. How backwards is that?
[01:24:23] Unknown:
It may it makes no sense. It's the same with, I was working in the anguaric, sector here in the Netherlands, and and we have the the best tomatoes. We have greenhouses, you know, glasshouse, greenhouses. So the the it's state of the art. You know, you have, especially with the with the with the greenery, for for example, tomatoes. In the early days, you have this it was a vibration staff, and you you you, you put it on a flower so that will, fruit or or or will, make new new, blossoms. I don't know what's it called. But would you like the electro culture with the copper wires? No. No. You you have a a like a dildo, but but let it with yeah. But it looks like like like a very small dildo, and you you point it on the flower of the tomato plants. So it will the, ah, fuck. The the the shit. What's the what's the word?
Pollination? Or Yep. Yeah. Yes. What the bees normally do, but you don't have bees in the in the so so you do that unnaturally, but to to pollinate? Is is that the right word? Pollinate. Yeah. Yeah. The the the flowers. But, of course, when you have so much crop, there is also some bugs. But you have other, insects that take care of these bugs. So I was taking for natural killers. So they have, and it's called Athipar. And also, nowadays, they do it not with the stick, but they do it with, not with bees, but with, the the little the humble humble bees. Yeah. Humblebee. That's a good word. So they they they, it's all natural. But we have the most beautiful tomatoes and cucumbers and stuff like that. Well, we're gonna export them, and we're gonna take back all the stuff that's been DTP or whatever the fuck from Spain and all that shit. So what it makes no sense.
[01:26:32] Unknown:
It would make I mean, I understand you wanna make the money for your country, but at the same time, why do you wanna feed your people the crap stuff? Why would you not keep you know what I mean? Enough why would you not make sure your people are satiated before you export for the money?
[01:26:51] Unknown:
Right? Why is Heineken export a better beer than normal Heineken?
[01:26:57] Unknown:
It it doesn't make any sense to me. No. The Heineken here sucks. When I went to Amsterdam, I've been there twice. The Heineken in Amsterdam is 10 times better than here. Heineken is not good there. It's cleaner water. I know. I went to the Heineken Brewery and did the tour when I was, like, 18. And but it was compared to the Heineken we get in America, 10 times better. Oh, wow. By the time it gets here, it's so skunky and pissy and just nasty and not
[01:27:27] Unknown:
not smooth and and good. Dude, when you are in Europe and you come to Netherlands, I'm gonna drive you here, like, few miles away from the brewery of, Hertogen, which is natural brewed beer. It's only one of the only distilleries or, what's it called, that they do, naturally, because most like Heineken is chemical. Yeah. And that makes a lot of difference. And if you see the process here, which is a very tiny brewery, it's it's awesome. And we have, a beer that's called, Grand Prestige, which is, has a very high alcohol level. But, boy, that's so good. And, especially, this one of the only beers that you can you can, lager for more than 20 years. It's gonna be better.
The longer it takes to ripe, the better it gets. It's gonna be like port. Yeah. I want to grab myself some beer before we hopped on this podcast, and then I will think like, why should I? Because how long have you been sober now, Eric?
[01:28:35] Unknown:
So on the December 11th, so 16 days ago was 3 years.
[01:28:41] Unknown:
Wow.
[01:28:42] Unknown:
3 years of no no drugs and alcohol, I mean, other than sugar and caffeine.
[01:28:48] Unknown:
I take I take it to a lot of caffeine, sugar, fish. These don't get tired. I'm turning tricks. So you would have sent that your body blues seems all our ears were born to lose. Guns and Roses right next door to hell. Right.
[01:29:01] Unknown:
Do a lot of caffeine. I have I make my tea every day.
[01:29:06] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:29:07] Unknown:
And it's one tea bag, so I don't know how much caffeine's in that. I I mean, I do one, like, a big coffee cup full when I make the tea, and then I pour it in here, and I mix it with a little bit of pineapple juice, apple juice.
[01:29:20] Unknown:
Oh, wow. That sounds good. Cinnamon and turmeric. So you mix your tea And raw and juice.
[01:29:28] Unknown:
And raw honey. Raw unfiltered honey because I used to like those Arizona teas. Mhmm. In, like, a big can. Yeah. They they're so full of high fructose corn syrup and so much other crap. Like so now I have my simple one that way cheaper and more healthy and Oh, it makes so much sense. It makes so much sense. I'll drink this one jug throughout the day, like, at work. You know, I'll finish it by the time I work. I work from 7 AM till 5 PM. I'll drink it during that time. And then I make my wife coffee every morning, and then what I'll do is when I wake up in the morning, I do my Himalayan salt with some water shot, you know, to get my salt. And then I'll pour out the leftover from the coffee I made her the day before, just like a, you know, half a cup or whatever, and I'll shoot that. That's what I have in the morning.
And then on the on the strong ends, like, on, you know, on Saturday and Sunday, then I'll make a big pot and I'll have a a coffee with her. But I try not to I you know, that's that's all the caffeine. Every once in a while, I'll have, like, a a Red Bull or something when I'm dragging at I mean, yes. Yeah. Yeah. I tried not to, but that's about it. And then I've been doing really good on my sugar. Like, I used to reward myself with a piece of chocolate, like, every day or this is you know? And it's just I've been trying not to because I I'll and I love dark chocolate. The darker, obviously, the better. And Uh-huh. And I've been try like, what I've been really bad lately is is peanut butter because I know the peanuts are GMO, and then they put the oils in there.
I mean, the one I buy says there there's less than 2%, but I don't know. And not nuts. No. And I love to take, like, a piece of that dark chocolate and put a little peanut butter on it. Oh,
[01:31:22] Unknown:
dude, it reminds me, we we have, haggleslark. Haggleslark is, oh, you know that? No. Oh, so it's a little chips of, chocolate. You're gonna put it on your sandwich. Okay. They they look like if if if you spread some on your kitchen counter and you have a mouse, you can see the difference because of a mouse mouse turd or like Hagelslag. But it's like that with, with peanut butter. Oh, fuck. Yes. Right? Yes. I have to be honest with you. I was almost 3 months sober. Well well, yeah, in in in in phases. Right? So I came back from Peru. I, treated myself, for some red wine when it was, done with the with the with the retreat.
And, of course, everything we do in life has to do we have to do with the intention. You know? Is is the intention to get drunk? You're gonna drink more than one bottle. My intention is not to be drunk either way. Well, I smoked some cigars, some real cigars, not like the the cigars that I normally smoke like over the lungs. So that's, that's my fucking excuse, to be honest with you. I like that. Sugar. No. Don't get me into chocolate or ice cream because I'm I I will be yes. I'm alright. Shit. So I don't buy it. No smoke. Well, alcohol. I yesterday, we were at a sushi restaurant because it was Christmas for most people.
And, I had a a nice Belgian beer, like a triple triple, Latrobe, which is a very new nice and a strong beer. So, that and we we we, when we ended, the food, we were drinking, Irish coffee. Yes. One of my favorites. But just to tell you what I did in the early days. In the early days, like, say 10, 5th say 15 years ago, I will have a bottle of Jameson Whiskey always on the side for the weekends. Then it was weekends. Now it's strong hands. Then it was weekends, to get it on Sunday morning, with an Irish coffee and maybe 2 or 3 when I wasn't driving my motorcycle. And 1, 700 milliliters of rum.
That was for the weekend just to get started with Coca Cola. But, oh, boy, oh, boy, when on Friday night, hit it and there was no rum. I would well, I wasn't going mad, but that there there was other ways to to, to get myself fucked up. Wasted. Nowadays, I really enjoyed the dinner yesterday. I really enjoyed the company, and I really enjoyed the beer. But it's not like, oh, today, I'm gonna get, you know, just like I said, I don't need the beer to have a great time with you.
[01:34:34] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:34:35] Unknown:
The so the intention of why you're doing something and my mom, she I was with my mom today. She said, oh, I thought you were you stopped with this and this. I said, no. Well, I was stopped at the moment, but I'm never gonna tell you. I will never ever no. No. No. I'm Rob, man. I'm I'm just, you know, when you're having a good time and some things come, come to you, then there could be a good intention to, to do some stuff. Right?
[01:35:08] Unknown:
Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. I was wondering how your sobriety was going, and mine's not to be a permanent. Mine was to rebalance. So I have 3 more years. After 3 more years, then I will be the same amount of years alive sober as fucked up. Right. And then and and it's and it it it is a learning and a conditioning thing because I've, I'll give I'll give Joe Rogan credit on this. He does have one you know, I mean, he's had some funny jokes, but this quote or or analogy he made is is good. He's you know, they're tools. Right? And you can either use you know, if it's a hammer, you can use that hammer to build a house or just hit yourself in the dick. Well, that's what I was doing with alcohol and weed and and whatever. I was just punching myself in the dick and not, you know, not enjoying it. You know, I I couldn't wait to get home. I'd I'd chug down 2 beers real quick to get that little buzz going. That way when I would hit my bong, it would hit faster and a little harder. I'd get that extra level, you know, because you can smoke, but if you're a little bit got a little alcohol in there, your blood's a little thinner. Yeah. Getting me to the spirits is open a little bit more That weed will come in and really you know? So, when I'm when I hit my rebalance, you know, and that was the thing with everything. Like like, when I used to party, I'd buy a big bottle of Jagermeister and half of it Friday with a whole bunch of beers and smoking, and then and sometimes we'd pop a pill or something. And then the other half Saturday and same thing and, you know, and then when you're young, you can recover on Sunday, halfway through Sunday, you feel fine again. And then as you get older, like, it doesn't work that much. And and you just lose I don't know the the intention. I, even right before I I went on my my my sobriety, I really wasn't partaking that much. I was smoking a lot. You know, I would I would go through quite a bit, in a in a strong you know?
But, as far as the alcohol wise, I was way down. I wasn't it wasn't that, oh, I gotta get boom, boom, boom. Let's go. Let's go. Because I was always the first one puking or the last one standing. Like, I would just put it away.
[01:37:27] Unknown:
Good balance.
[01:37:29] Unknown:
Just that I I can drink more than you and and half the time it worked and half the time no. Right. Right. No. I just wanna complete my this this rebalance and then slowly maybe go back, and I want it to be for, hey. I met up with Rob or Milton or or one of my other good friends that's local and had maybe one just an enjoyment of of you know what I mean? Right. What actual purpose, not for just the trickery or the fake reward of of, you know Right. Okay. I went to work all this week. I deserve this. Well, why why should my reward be poisoning or toxin? Why can't it be, you know, something that's actually beneficial,
[01:38:14] Unknown:
you know? Yeah. I I love to kick around my ego just like this little voice in myself, like, oh, can I please have a joint? Nope. And then all of a sudden, the the so so the the, the intrinsic motivation now is completely different than it was. So even if I come back home here, well, hear me saying as a as a as a as a homeless back home. But if I go back to on Fridays on on work and they're drinking a beer, I can make up my mind to do that. But I don't have to. And I always said to myself, especially when I was, starting live, I never ever want to be, dependent on someone or something.
And so I always said when I figured out, like, oh, you're smoking quite a lot. It was not like my dad or my mom said, oh, you're quite smoking a lot, but just like, oh, wait a minute. Oh, I I gotta bring this down to to to to 0 or to you know? You you you have to be responsible, for your own deeds and your own stuff in life. You know? It's it's like finger pointing and still do that sometimes because it's very easy. You know? Oh, everyone is to blame that I'm fucked up. Well, it's you, Rob. It's look in the mirror. You you made the wrong choices. You you made the wrong or or you you haven't learned the lesson. You screwed up. You know, lick your wounds and get back to it again.
That's all and and that's it's not like, oh, I figured it out. Oh, no, man. This this is still a journey of, you know, getting down, you know, dust off and and hold your head up high and go and try to do it again. Yeah.
[01:40:03] Unknown:
Yeah. And I know exactly like it. Just like anything in life, it's your choice around it that creates the connection or the separation. And I created a lot of separation, passed up a lot of experiences and opportunities because I was in such that mode of I don't want like, I enjoyed, you know, smoking weed so much that I only wanted to do things that I could do while doing that. Or you know what I mean? Like, oh Yeah. We're gonna go do go to a movie or we're gonna go do this or that. We have to have time or coordinate where we can get high first. We can't, you know oh, you're gonna go do that? I don't wanna go do that because it's with people that might judge me for being high.
Up here around. So I don't enjoy doing that while still and and I don't wanna do it like so. And that wasn't anything's fault, but my own, my own choice for creating that mindset, that weak mindset.
[01:41:01] Unknown:
Right.
[01:41:02] Unknown:
I can't just go do this and enjoy this because, you know, I wanna do it stoned or something. You know, just stupid, like and it's funny how certain things you can do stoned and certain things you can't. I mean, I'm not sure. Snowboarding? Stoned. Like Right. Skateboarding? No. Silver. You like, it's still weird. So weird.
[01:41:27] Unknown:
We we were we were driving. Oh, man. I don't know. What's the felony? When when does it, eventually go goes way? How many years? Oh, like a drunk driving? It's probably different everywhere here. No. Drunk driving is something that I never did. No. But driving stone oh, dude, I was smoking like, oh, like like a chimney. Every my my eyes, I don't have that big eyes, but they were they were almost close to me. And I and I'm just like, oh, man. What are you doing? Oh, man. Smoking a joint. Oh, yeah. Let's hang around. You know? Stuff like that. I would nowadays?
Oh, dude. I I I would be almost panicking with all the cameras and all that stuff, you know, and and and traffic. No. And and I I think I I wouldn't I wouldn't feel that comfortable. I don't know what happened in 20 or 4, 30 years time because that at that that time, it wasn't allowed either. But it was just normal for for me. Well, what's normal anyways. Right? But drunk, no. I I once once, was a friend of mine, and, he had some stress with this girl. And we came back drunk as fuck. And I said, oh, man. I'm gonna drive you to the end of town, so you can, check your girlfriend out and stuff like that. So I I entered the car.
I put it in, in the first gear, but I thought it was in reverse. So first, I hit it, some, some greenery. Right? And before I I was, out of the street, I I hit it some things, and I I I was really drunk to and I said, this is not gonna work. So I entered the entered the car, and I I walked back home. And the car was, parked in the middle of the streets, going back stoned several times. Then my mom said, are you stoned? I said, why? Well, look at your car, and I and I looked back and just like it was parked perfectly in the middle of the street.
So, you know yeah. That but that that's, but we were talking about so many things today, Eric. What is the topic that you wanna touch base on today?
[01:43:50] Unknown:
I'm not sure. I we've been you know, we like to jump branches like squirrels. You know? I like I like everything. You know? It's it's great. I'll talk it's funny talking about intoxicated driving. The time I got in trouble for it was probably one of the least intoxicated times I ever was. You know? It's like, you got caught when you probably shouldn't have and then the times you should've got caught, you didn't. Oh, tell me. Like, times we got pulled over, we're hiding beer cans and liquor bottles and throwing weed out the car and okay, kids. Have a good night. All underage. And then the one time I got pulled over, I probably was more fucked up than I thought, but I had only had a couple couple beers and a smoke, and then I had to drive, the girl I was dating at that time back home, and then I had to drive back up. And then I was a smart ass to the cop, and he was a new cop, and so I spent the night in jail and just I silly. You know? Like, you learn life lessons. You know? It's just funny.
It's just funny how it is it's just one of those things. And then one thing that always gets me today too is is how normalized they've made, drinking and stuff. And I and I wonder if it was always that way, if that was another thing that they've changed or manipulated, like, the the celebration of alcohol. Did we always drink like that? Did we always is it true in the history books with all the wine and all the monks with the mead and all the or is that manipulated to get us to this society where it's so based around alcohol? Like Oh, yeah. Because people still are looking at me weird that I'm not partaking. Like, my stepdad on Christmas, I didn't wanna I'm like, no. I'm not having a bloody Mary. I'm so and he's like like, I'm some weirdo space alien. Right?
[01:45:38] Unknown:
Only if you say that, oh, I got a disease, and when I'm gonna drink alcohol, I'm I I will drop that. Oh, oh, no problem. For Eric, Koda. Just like, why do I need an excuse not to drink? That always fascinates me. Oh, wait. Oh, don't be, you know, oh, you're you're not like, what what's it called? In in Netherlands to say, you know, oh, come on. It's a it's a great party. Yeah. Still having a great party. Dude, I was once at a at a rave, and I was sober for more than 2 months. No alcohol, no weed, no nothing. Right?
So, I I was going to this party and this guy on the door, he he he looked me in the eyes. He said, you are having a great time. I said, damn. I'm having a great time. Alright. Spry your legs. I think you got something on you. I said, okay. Dude, come on. Bring it on. So he checked me, and he said, why the fuck are you looking so so funny and you're smiling? I said, because I'm having a great time. And my girlfriend said, dude, every single time when you were trying to to to, to check him, you would probably find something if you if if you didn't stack it too much. But now I I'm 100% sure. I'm 100% convinced Rob is sober.
But now comes this thing. I go to the party. I I I, you know, I dance like crazy. Everyone in the room that I know came up to me like, hey, man. What's your wrong? You got something left? Right? And I said, no, man. I'm just having a fucking great time around here, and I'm sober. No. You're not so damn. I'm fucking sober. You can you can check me out. How how that's so so strange how stuff like that goes.
[01:47:28] Unknown:
That's so strange. People can't believe that you can just have a good time.
[01:47:34] Unknown:
They they don't. Hire on yourself. You know? That's like, even, like, especially in in my in my, in my trailer, I really like to dance and to, you know, play guitar, stand up, and do some stuff. We should do that more because adrenaline, all good stuff is gonna be in entering in your brain. You're feeling good. You know, when you have this rock music or whatever music that you like, you know. By the way, people that are listening to this episode right now, Eric is a phenomenal rapper. Dude. Where where where can people, dig some stuff up?
[01:48:15] Unknown:
I have a a SoundCloud. Bunch of my stuff's on SoundCloud, under Eric Finis, and then, Reverb Nation. That's another little site that it used to be kinda connected to Facebook. I don't know if it is or anymore. I started getting a Bandcamp going, but, I don't have I need to buy the the ASCAP or whatever, like, that $100 fee to make you, like, a legit artist. That's tough. And then and then Bandcamp works a little bit more better for that. And it's a one time thing. I need to just do it, because then, I can license my stuff more and do, you know, whatever the fuck with it better if if someone wants to wanted the if someone wanted to pay me and use it, like, legitimately, like, in a commercial or or something. I mean, obviously, if one of my friends wanted to use a song or something, yeah, use it. You wanna give me bucks? I don't give a shit. But you wanna use it? It's free. Use it. You know?
Those would be the 2 best places to to to find where you can listen to it. And I think on Reverb Nation, it's reverb nation dot com. I think most everything on there, you can download it. I don't I thought it was set up on SoundCloud, but I don't think you can. I think Snake said he had to pay for a membership to to be able to download it. But if if someone listening to this, if you hear a song you like or whatever, hit me up. I'll send you I'll send you the m p 3 or whatever, and and you can have whatever straight to your phone. Like, I'm not it the I made the one album, like, 12 years ago, and then I've had I did, like, 3 singles, like, the year after that. And then and then I just got too busy with my my kids and and life. And and the people that we were kinda working with, it kind of all blew up. And my one friend, he's still gone with it. He's still working hardcore. Shout out to my brother, Patches.
Patches say Patches on Instagram. He has a Linktree on there. He raps, sings, makes, beats, produces music. He's killing it. And then I've done and this year, I released 3. I think I did 3 tracks this year, 3 songs this year, and then the year before I did 1 or 2. So I'm still doing it. It's just not it's, you know, time time and effort. You know what I mean? It's just Oh, yeah. It's hard grind out the time. Like, I got it's not my priority anymore. Like, before I was married and had kids, that was like, I just need bart and that was the thing. I was bartending at my father's bar. We would do a hip hop night once a month.
And then after my shifts, you know, I closed down the bar on a Thursday night, Sunday night. No one's in there. I can go up on stage, put my stuff on, rehearse. So I had, like, a 40 minute set that I was doing back then. Wow. But I could practice all the time. So when I would go to the show, I'm on point. Like and everyone's like, damn. Like, I'm like, well, I practice. That that's how it is. Like, what do what do you think these rock stars are doing? They're not just sitting around getting high all the time. I mean, part of their time there, but the other time, they're working and practicing and Oh, yeah. And then held down, like, you know? I mean Yeah. You gotta perform. Yeah. You gotta get it down. So, yeah, appreciate you. Yeah. Shout out to snake, our brother snake, the our magical wizard behind the scenes. He's he's probably my biggest fan. Love that, guys.
[01:51:33] Unknown:
Do you got a a another name as a as an artist?
[01:51:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Filbert Mohair is is the name. Filbert Mohair. It's just a silly name me and my friend came up with when we were messed up. And, probably
[01:51:47] Unknown:
At least it's original. No one's gonna have that name. And then And it's crazy that that you, when you're looking back to it, that you, you brought out an album. Right? Yeah. Yeah. It was fun. It was a good that we did 2 albums. Nice. And sometimes, you know, you don't think about it. But but, a few strongs ago, we were talking about something like that, and someone asked me about music and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Do something on TikTok, and, oh, you never brought something. I'm just like, no. Oh, wait. Yeah. I was in the band, and we we we made 2 albums.
She's like, oh, yeah. Wait a minute. That's me. But it's it it, so you do, still produce some stuff? Yeah. Yeah. He like everything yourself to piece the whole
[01:52:35] Unknown:
no. I don't know. I usually get those from other people. So, like, my album so we when I made my album, we had a little a little crew going a little group. There was, like, 5 of us. And, so I did an album. 2 other guys did a album, and then we had a group album we released. And then we were trying to do it, and then right when, my album got released the end of that summer, they did a little tour, like, only only one guy from our group went. The other guy was one guy that would produce some of the the music and the beats. He was still young. He was only 19. And I was gonna go on that tour, and my wife was pregnant at the time, was really against it. You know, just worried. She thinks I'll go on tour and be with all these girls and all these, you know, whatever.
The the the booze and the babes and the ass. Yeah. No. Those being bump ups. I don't think that was ever gonna happen, but, you know, for her sake, I didn't go on the tour, which whatever. And, just kept doing some local shows here and there. Our big huge summer jam music festival, we we got to perform there. And, and then it was just I liked doing the shows. Like like I said, I had a 40 minute set of just my stuff, and then I would kinda choreograph our group sets, what we were gonna do together, because we usually get depends. When you're first starting out, you don't get a lot of time. You get maybe 15, 20 minutes. Oh, yeah. And you gotta you gotta spit it out. You gotta try and cram it all in there. So we did a couple of those things, and then it seemed like I was the only one really putting in the effort to make the live show, and that's where you do it. I mean, that's you know what I mean? You gotta represent the live show, sell your merch, get it going to keep keep it going. And it seemed like those guys didn't like doing it. They just liked making the music. I'm like, well, it's not really ever gonna go anywhere if you're not if you don't put in the effort and do the tour. You know, you gotta suck it up and live in a van for a few days.
Do a show for one of your shows there's gonna be a 100 people. One of your shows there's gonna be 10. Yes. You know? And I did all those. I did shows for 100, and I did shows for 5 people. And you gotta bring the same energy every time. Yep. You know? Just because there's 5 people that you can't suck. Yeah. Exactly.
[01:54:53] Unknown:
I don't know. Maybe the one guy that that maybe could could be the the the universe, you know, for you.
[01:55:01] Unknown:
Yeah. So we're not doing it. I was just writing my own lyrics to different, music I would acquire. Like, I bought 4 songs from a guy in Warsaw. So one of my songs on my album is actually one of his beats from Poland. And then, and then the other ones were from a kid in our group, and they were just hey. I don't these are kinda some ones I'm not doing anything with. I don't really care about them. Use them if you want to. Okay. Sweet. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Yeah. Of course. Buddy that's still way into it, he'll he'll get I'll ask him, like, hey. Can I use this one? Yeah. Yeah. And then I try and compensate him for it, you know. And I have some other producers I know, but I mean, it's it's kind of expensive and and, like I said, priorities. I'm I you know, so I used to go to the, like, professional studio and do all that and but the lately, the last three songs I've done, I've done them all on my phone, on an app on my phone and did them all, Claude, from Fermental. He helped, regulate the levels on 1, like, did did some stuff on it, and and I appreciate that. He did did it for free here. Here, I'd Right. We have the same app, and so he can I can, share a project to him and make it available that he can work on it with me?
[01:56:14] Unknown:
Oh, but that's that's that's just something that that that came to my mind. Like, can you imagine that, like, 15 years ago that you would be your own producer? It was, you couldn't do that. Not with the studio equipment of tens of 1,000 of dollars. Nowadays, you just have your phone, you record the shit and you just put it out. That's that. I mean, and even if you, if you take some, some, some, software to, to, to slice it up or to make it more, listenable, like I do with my shows, not on Rumble for a time, but for, audio, I put it in in the enhanced, podcasting, software. So it it it it sounds better for listening to on YouTube. You know? Okay. That this is it, what you're gonna get. But, I I was I was really happy with my, with my setup that I have. Like, I got the Arturia, the mini lap, so I can put every sound that I have in it if everything has been set up.
And with my loop station, because I I I you know, making a sound is 1, but producing it all over again, that's that's 2. You know? And then you need your drums and all that stuff. I was working a lot of lot of that, but it takes, like you said, so much time. The easiest way is just to have, free people, hang around together, have a good time, and just play some play some tunes and record it, and and let's see what's happening. And if you're alone, like like me, this organized production, just like, okay. When I got my loop station, hey.
Magic happens.
[01:57:52] Unknown:
Oh, we had a we had a few guys that would come around to the bar with a loop station solo act. He'd get a couple sounds going and make badass songs and play and, you know, do covers and stuff too. Like, you know Oh, yeah. Slap out a, like, slap out a simple beat on his guitar, loop it, and then lay down kind of the baseline. And then he'd play the regular guitar part and do solos and sing. You know? It was awesome. It was it was it was legit. It was cool. It was I can do, like,
[01:58:22] Unknown:
probably more than 1 hour, but let's say 1 hour. So people, if you, if you wanna, if you wanna see more disorganized, just just book me. I don't have a home, so you only have to pay me some food and a and a roof above my head and have a great time together. No matter where on this beautiful plane planning. You you you call me out. I mean, just just make this organized production show. You know? I was talking to snake about that.
[01:58:48] Unknown:
Yeah. How does how does the those coffees work? When I sent you those coffees the other day, do you actually get that money? Or
[01:58:56] Unknown:
I I I have to check it out. I saw it. I I thank you. I don't know if it's gonna probably, it's like, it should be, like, above, like, let's say, $10 or or $100 before you pay out. Because otherwise, the trend probably, I have to figure it out because I was very excited that, Eric is also one of my producers. Yes. Shout out to all the producers of, Dzored Edge Productions. Having that beautiful shirt on. I I and it I I think that it's, that the quality wasn't, quite as as expected. But I figured out that some t shirts have several, so so you can add some qualities.
Yeah. So so probably maybe, you know, because I was that was one of my first, shirts. But, I have uploaded some some others which are cool. Snake has one on sun Sundays with the church, like, Psalms, whatever the fuck. You made one too, with the book. I I uploaded that one too.
[02:00:07] Unknown:
So I'm gonna get one of those too eventually. I was just wondering with the coffee because, I didn't know how that worked. And then and after I did it, I was like, well, yeah, maybe I should've just sent you PayPal or whatever. But I don't have PayPal, but, like, I think I can just do it one time on the card or whatever. But I was just like, if if there's you know, because I actually wanted to help you and you know? Because I know you're going through it right now. You know, you're trying to get it together. So I was like, you're my brother. Love you. Wanna spread the love. Little holiday cheer. So I was like and then I thought about it. I was like, is he even gonna be able to use this, or is it you know what I mean? So I was like, ah, maybe I should have just sent it the other way because I'd rather have you have a couple bucks in your pocket. You know? Right.
[02:00:47] Unknown:
Thanks, man. Thanks. Well, I think eventually it will work, but, I have to dig into it. That's the that's the only thing as a content creator and as a, well, let's say, producer, writer, whatever the fuck they're gonna call it. You have to be aware of so many things. That's like just like you said, you know, it's it's the time. It's not the time like, oh, I I have a great beat, and I just wanna and I make a you know? It's like you have to record. Then you have need software. Then you need a software update. Then you have to create a new account. Then you have to fill it in a new account. Dude, dude, oh, it's something like the the, I want to make a movie out of that, like a short clip of in the early days when you got a letter, when you saw a postman that comes up to your briefcase, like, someone wrote a letter.
Yep. Nowadays, when you open up your mailbox, just like It's advertised. Shitload of shit. Just like, don't even look at your spam. I mean,
[02:01:54] Unknown:
what the hell happened? You know? And creating too, you have to be you know, it's all vibrations. Right? So if you're in that low vibe, it's not gonna come out. Like, I I've I remember time spending so many strongs, you know, so many, you know, so many so much time on one song, like, just being almost sometimes too much of a perfectionist. Mhmm. And then it then I got to a point of it's never gonna be perfect. You know? And I'm and I'm a human, and I want it to be real. I'd like something that I hate of any kind of music. You hear this so perfect produced studio song Uh-huh. That cannot recreate live.
You see it live and it's like, what is this? And so when I made that first album, I tried to make it, hey. You know, my producer would get mad. You're not giving me a lot of stuff to do. I'm like, well, I don't I want it simple. That way, when I go do the live show, it sounds the same. Like Or better. Right? Yeah. Or better. Like, I just you know, I don't need a lot of sound effects. I don't need a lot of reverb. I don't need a lot of whatever. Like, I just want my rap. I want the beat. That way when you make my my show disc, you just tell them that, like because that was a thing too. Like, so many rappers lip sync and shit, and it was like Oh, let let me leave in the lip sync. And I was a dick, and I would I would talk shit to him and and because my when I would do my show, when I'd have him make my show disc, you know, I'd have him take out all the lyrics and and then just leave maybe a little bit of the chorus, you know, or or the hook part to where when it was the time I'm rapping, it's me. You're hearing my voice. Like Right. Right. All me. And then then when it comes to the chorus, I can take a break a little bit, have one of the other people in the group do that part Uh-huh. Then come back focus on my next verse. And then but I wanted it because we would go to so many shows and they'd be rapping over themselves.
And sometimes it would be off rhythm and off timing, and it was so terrible. And then and just that's just something that we I'm sure all artists of all genres make fun of lip syncing and and not doing it live, like and so many artists do. I mean and I understand sometimes in big things, it's hard to get the sound proper and right, but still I think if that's your product, bring it as real as you can and you know what I mean? Yeah.
[02:04:24] Unknown:
You know, Adam Curry? Yeah. Shout out to Adam Curry, but I still want you on my podcast. Goddamn it. But he was, presenting, one of the first, m not one of the first music shows in the Netherlands, which it was count, Countdown, which is called Countdown. And, I think it was on that show or on TopHOP, where there was the first real international bands playing live in the studio. Well, live between air hooks because, Iron Maiden was there with I think it was Wasted Years. And they thought, like, we're always play live. We're fucking Iron Maiden. Right?
But they were in in this little, studio. They they they you know, with with the audience and all that stuff, and they had to lip sync. So Okay. That was the funniest lip sync you ever gonna see because all of a sudden, Bruce Dickinson is behind the drums. Nico is, is pretend to sing. The bassist are switching, with the guitarist. And it was one big mess. Why? Well, we're gonna lip sync. So everything is fake. Just like So let's fuck around with it. You guys fuck around. Like, you you're not gonna screw it up because it's it's on tape. Right? Right. It's so funny.
But, yes. If you if you, and I I know what you mean with the perf, with the perfection. I was dealing with my with myself, especially with my own ego for more than 3 years, I think, that I I did stuff and I didn't put it on the Internet. Eventually, now, sometimes it's just like, oh, When I came back from Peru, I got so much stuff that I could add in and stuff like that. Life took a toll on me. You know, with with things that I have to set up first, some bridge that I had to burn. All this stuff takes so much energy. Feel like a chase rabbit, because there's no real place that I can go to to be on my ease, you know. Close the door and just like, oh, fuck everyone. Or or just lay down.
So that that that's really hard. But with, with the perfection because of that perfection, I I wanted to have it perfect so it doesn't come out. Then all of a sudden, I had a conversation with someone on a zoom and they said, like, it's never going to be perfect. Especially if you are a perfectionist, it never will be perfect. So bring it out and see how it goes because then you have authenticity. I probably wrote a few songs. I, write my own music most of the time, and I can't remember the fucking shit. It's disorganized productions. Remember? But, you know, it's just like, oh, if I'm in a groove, I really have to sit down. Like you say, you have to sit down and practice all that shit. Like and sometimes out of the guitar, it comes. But if I have to do it all over again with the chords, I'm gonna fuck it up. Yeah. But that's that's that's me.
I'm I'm not like, oh, I'm sorry. No. That's me. I'm, I'm the one that fucks it up. But if you don't like it, don't listen to it. You know? And if I redo my best and it comes out great with, the song at the end of the podcast also, that that's it's it's in one take, but it takes me a lot of time to get that one tape ready. And then when I listen to it, how man do when I when I when I will record it once in the studio, dude, that that's a song that a lot of people can sing along with because they they're feeling the same. And that was just like a production with my telephone, just like, you know, put it here on record. I've been running for all my life.
[02:08:24] Unknown:
I love
[02:08:25] Unknown:
that. Thanks. Thanks. I love your music, man. Because, after you post that one, I'll start to rap too. Just like pop. I love to do that shit. Look. Freestyling.
[02:08:37] Unknown:
Oh, good. Like, it gets sometimes some of the best highs I've ever had were driving in the car and just all of a sudden you'd hit it and spit out a bunch of stuff, and it just you you you got the right connections you wanted. Uh-huh. And then you just that head rush, and you're just like, yeah. Yeah.
[02:08:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I really like that when I hear a song that I don't know, and I feel like this vibe of the song and then just, you know, randomly randomly take my old lyrics. Yeah. And when they fit, just like you said, you're gonna be, fuck, yeah. That's better than than the original.
[02:09:14] Unknown:
And I used to be so bad, like, I'd you know, a a a a couple lines would come to me. And I'm like, okay. I'm gonna write that down later. Hey. Forget them. So I've been really you're like, now if I if I hear something, I'll grab my phone and put it in. And one of my one an artist I really like, he said, write it all down no matter how corny it sounds. Because the second you write it down, you have it. Yes. And then when you go back to it, it might not be exactly what you want, but you have a foundation to build off or change from. And then because always too, I'm the master of 10 minutes later, someone says something then 10 minutes later, like, oh, I have the perfect answer, and now I don't have you know what I mean? Oh.
[02:10:00] Unknown:
Like, touch cast him all the time.
[02:10:03] Unknown:
Yeah. The last one I did with Milton after, like, you know, half hour after we're off, I'm like, oh, I was gonna say this, and I didn't. And then this I had this answer for that, and I didn't say it. And it's like, oh, well, next time.
[02:10:16] Unknown:
Yeah. She gotta make make notes, man. I I I was writing a lot in, a few songs back, actually, especially, one one script, of of Peru. Just like writing down all all your thoughts and all the stuff, and then it all comes together. And, especially, I think there's something going on. If you write something down, you imprint it in your brain. Yep. And you can't figure it out. And sometimes, especially when you have some like, oh, dude, write it down or or no matter what, but but but take notes of it because 5 seconds in, just like, oh, what was it? You know, it it maybe it's one word or so that you're gonna fuck it up that that doesn't make any sense.
Wow.
[02:11:02] Unknown:
It's like you have multiple multiple points of manifestation. You you know, the thoughts come and go, and then you can even say it. But even, you know, there's been things I've been at work, had a little thing I've been singing all morning for, like, 2 hours. Didn't write it down. 2 hours later, no don't recall exactly the words or the rhythm. Oh. And then it's like, so when you you say it out loud, then you write it down. Then now you've got multiple points of where you can help connect it and then, you know.
[02:11:33] Unknown:
Yeah. I got it with the guitar. I'm playing a riff. And someone said, oh, wait. That's cool. I said, what? You know, I stopped. He said, play it again. And I started just, like, totally different. He said, no. No. The the the other I just, like, that that's why I like to play along with with, you know, when there's a blues or or, you know, like a backing track. Yeah. I can oh. Oh, here here it goes. But but if I do the the own song that didn't need the the loop station, you just like click. Oh, now I got it down, and now I can perfect it, and I can listen to it again. Then I have to be very careful not to delete it.
Oh, that happens so much. Oh, that's just like, oh, that was cool. What was it again?
[02:12:21] Unknown:
Accident accidental deletion is the worst. I had a one of the trips we went to Europe on, my whole video camera full of pictures, and I didn't understand about formatting. And it asked if I wanted to format the card, and I lost every picture from, you know, 3 weeks in Europe. Yeah. She's not back. The visual memories and I have film, but, like, all these cool pictures I took gone forever.
[02:12:50] Unknown:
Oh, fuck. You gotta come back. Got it. Yes. Let's let's do it. Dude, what what if we do with this for another, let's say, 3 minutes? Because then, on my time is 22/22. Just sort of whatever the fuck they do. You know? Just for the freemasons to then Tyler can make a new episode out of pee.
[02:13:17] Unknown:
Oh,
[02:13:20] Unknown:
but that's so funny how it goes, man. That's so funny how it goes. I know that you do not like to be on shows. Not anymore because of some stuff that happened in the past, and and everyone deals with that. Right? Because when you want to say something from the bottom of your heart without any without, kicking someone in the groin or whatever. I know that you are not that person. Absolutely not. But it's really, really, shitty sometimes when when when shit hits the fan, you wanna speak like you want to speak and you will be silenced. I think that that ties in good with with all the stuff that we talked about because a lot of stuff that we talked about is about, you know, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, Fuck up.
And we we can be silenced. We can be. We're on the Zorn Ranch production, so we can be silenced.
[02:14:13] Unknown:
And it doesn't do any good. No.
[02:14:17] Unknown:
No. What's, what's the last train of thought that you have to, or or message that you wanna put out in this, in the ether? Well,
[02:14:32] Unknown:
last you know, I was on once solo, then we did the our little threesome. And then now you have your new questions. So my, definition of value is, you know, it has to something that resonates with you. It makes you feel good, and I think can uplift and help help others. Right? And success is finding that value. Your success is if if you can achieve that value of of, you know, of finding it, like how you can help people beside yourself. And I my last one was like, you know, treat people better than you wanna be treated. But also now it's just try and make the extra effort to be present, to help people, to to not be outcast.
[02:15:24] Unknown:
Wow. And credits to you, Eric, bringing up these questions because you told me like, oh, Rob, you gotta ask these questions. And I integrated them. And, sometimes most of the times I think about it like, okay. First thing I gotta do is introduce my guest and and to write and to ask the questions. I think that that works the best because then you you got a feeling like who is there with you. Right? You know? So thank you, Eric, for, for your time and energy to hopping on this organized productions for part 3. And, probably is gonna be a part 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 1. You know? Yeah. And we're gonna talk to each other, in in the app. It's a 22, 22 right now here in the Netherlands.
So thank you. I have a great time again, and I hope you enjoyed yourself too. Big kudos to you, man. And let's let's, make 2025 the best year ever. Yep. Let's do it. Okay. Big virtual hug to you, my friend. Always. Love you, bro. Alright. Thank you, man. I will see you. Alright. Dreams. He's a pain in the ass. Black as a night, god showed me the light. He's a pain in the ass. Black
Introduction and Host's Welcome
Guest Introduction: Eric Phineas
Eric's Current Challenges and Living Situation
Reflections on Past Year and Achievements
Family and Personal Growth
Dealing with Loss and Suicide
Military Service and Reintegration Challenges
Flat Earth and Scientific Exploration
Political Conspiracies and Presidential Politics
Wicked Conspiracies and Media Influence
Historical Narratives and Power Structures
Sobriety and Personal Choices
Music and Creative Process
Perfectionism and Authenticity in Art
