In this episode of the Disorganized Productions Podcast, host Rob welcomes special guest Heidi Luv from the Unfiltered Rise podcast. Together, they delve into the intriguing and often controversial topic of Mormonism, exploring its occult origins and connections to Freemasonry and other secret societies. Heidi shares her personal journey of leaving the Mormon faith, discussing the challenges and revelations she encountered along the way. The conversation touches on the influence of Mormonism in modern society, its historical ties to powerful figures, and the hidden rituals and symbols within the religion. Heidi also discusses her research into the broader implications of religious and occult practices, including their connections to historical events and figures like Aleister Crowley and John Dee. The episode provides a deep dive into the complexities of faith, belief systems, and the hidden truths that lie beneath the surface of organized religion.
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Welcome fellow human to the disorganized productions podcast. The show that fuels your spirit, ignites your potential, and helps you become the best version of yourself. I'm your host, Rob, and each episode, we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you. Tap into your limitless potential and conquer life's challenges. Hello fellow human. This is a emergency broadcast. If you wanna sponsor the show and keep the lights going, please take a look at my link tree where there are a lot of links to my websites are available. My web shop, some health products, some wisdom products, and all all sorts of stuff.
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And, today, we're gonna talk about mormorism. Is it called mormorism? Right?
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More Mormon. Mhmm. Mormon. Mormon. Mormon. Yes. Okay. We're gonna talk about Mormon
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Occult's religions and, basically, about, a little bit about life. May maybe we're gonna touch down base a little bit on Paris also because we were talking about that. Please, a warm welcome for my guest, Heidi Love. Thank you.
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Hey. I'm happy to be here. That is my real name. My parents are raging hippies, for I'm a seventies baby. So, yep, Heidi Love is my real name. And I started a podcast on accident. I didn't even know this was ever gonna happen to me. So here I am. And, I went on one podcast because I wanted to tell him something. I've been a researcher my whole life. It was Josh Monday from the Christian Conspiracy Podcast. And love Josh. Yes. Hi, Josh. And he said, come on my show and tell me about this because I sent him an idea. And I said, no. You you do it. You do it. Here you go. He said, no. It doesn't work like that. You come. And I said, I don't do this. And he said, yeah. You can do this. And I said, no. I don't think so. And so then we got talking on the show because he talked me into it. I had my phone, my son's puzzle light, the little light he has to do puzzles.
And I'm just this mom. I'm, you know, what? I was, like, 47 at the time. This, you know, mom of 6 kids out of Mormonism. And I said, I just don't know that I have anything to say, you know, that anybody would care about. Because my whole life as I told you, I've been told to shut up. So, just because I talk too much. Right? And he said, no. No. Come back about Mormons. And I said, oh, why? And he said, well, because people wanna know about him. And I live in Utah. And I said, but everybody knows. And he said, no. No. They don't.
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There are still some people under a rock. But shout out to Josh Mande. He's like, and you were also on the, with Alexander Roll. Yeah. Talking Stitt. Truth to faith. You were there Yeah. Inquires of reality.
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Yep. Yep. Oh, Davey. Busy. And on Davey. Yeah. Davey Wavy is one of my first. Still got to tell. Yes. Yes. And my family thinks I'm crazy. That's Mark. Yes. Mark. I I would love to go on, Sam someday, but I have been on Mark, and that was awesome because I you know, going on some of these shows, as I said, I was an avid podcast listener, but I never thought I would meet some of these people. And I think my biggest one that I was scared of the most and the most excited for was William Ramsey. I really look up to William Ramsey. So
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Even listening.
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Shout out. You know, just test the credentials, and we'll make Yes, William. Yeah. He's he he was so gracious, and and it was a wonderful conversation, but I was scared. You know, he's an attorney. I mean, I really wanted to be an attorney my whole life. So when I talk to attorneys, I get a little nervous, but, you know, it was it was fun. It's been fun. It's been a wild ride. Wow. Yeah. I like it.
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So so since, since when did you realize, wait a minute. I'm in this this occulting
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religion, and I wanna get out. And how did you me tell you. Yeah. How to get out? I am so by DNA, my actual ancestry DNA says Mormon settler. It it literally says that in my blood. And my family settled this area with the branches with that came from Joseph Smith. Like, this is like like, my people are, like, deep in this. And when you're when you're raised like that, it's, it's almost impossible. You do lose your family. I did lose my family. And I lot my I had my mom. She had also done the same thing. We had a dichotomy at my house. It that's very rare in Mormonism because my grandma fell in love with a not a Mormon.
And so, yeah, he was a Chicago gangster from the south side of Chicago, and he was hell on wheels. He was a biker. He was a 1 percenter. He was very, yeah. He was wild. In fact, I remember being my grandpa was 6060 maybe, and he actually beat the shit out of a guy on the freeway because he cut him off at 60. And and the guy was, like, 35. I mean, I I'm telling you, you didn't wanna fight with my grandpa because he loved it, because he came from the streets. You know? Right. So Right. He if you hit him, sometimes he'd laugh. And then that would really piss people off. And so yeah.
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He thought it was funny because he's like, you have to learn to love it because if you're afraid, then you won't win. Yeah. Then you walk away. But if you if you're dealing with the pain and you you know what's going on, you you have this little twinkle in your eyes just like, oh, yeah. Let's get it on. Let's go. Yep. He was always
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he was always down down to fight. And I'm like, okay. So I saw this growing up, and I thought, you know, these people are going to jail every weekend. My family that was in the sundowners and is wild. And I thought, I'm not gonna do that. My grandma over here, she seems her and her family, the Mormon people, they seem, like they have it together. You know, they're they're very good. And, you know, you want, normalcy when you come from crazy. And my family was my dad was in prison. My mom was in an abusive marriage. Like, all these bad things that I went through when I was really young. So I just wanted a normal life. Like, a very normal life. And Mormonism can give that to you. So, you know, plus I'm making everyone happy. Right? Like, my whole family is like, yay. Like, she's good. You're good. You're a good girl. You know? Right.
And so when you're the first grandkid and, you know, all the things, you just wanna you wanna do all the things that make people happy. And so I did for a long time. But I don't know that I made me happy, but I don't think you care about that when you're younger. You know? You don't understand yet how to, like, individuate. You know? The individuation comes later in life. And I got married so young. I was 17.
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Wow.
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And, yeah, he was 25, almost 26. And it wasn't arranged or anything weird. No polygamy in the mainstream. It was just I fell I fell in love with him, and I just didn't wanna sin, if you know what I mean. So Right.
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Yeah. Oh, and and now you've got 6 children.
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Yeah. 6 kids. Well and I had, so this is not the same husband because he went a little crazy off the rails, but he got really into drug addiction. And for anybody that struggles with drug addiction, you know, I just always tell people now I'm a mental health nurse now. I don't shame him for his past. My brother did die of an accidental overdose, so I always tell people reach out. You know? Don't stay suck in a cycle. People are there to help you. I love helping people, and that's what I do now. So Right. Because you're a nurse too. Right? Yes. Yes. I'm a mental health nurse now. I've been a nurse 26 years. So Wow.
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Wow. You must have seen so much, and especially if you have that background. Right? Because, little bit back, you you went through the the to the. This is that's a crazy word. You're okay. How long is Mormon been around, like, as a
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The 1800 is when Joseph Smith, first came out with, you know, the whole Mormonism business, and I don't have the exact date. Let me let me Google that. But for me, I was in it for 34 years. I did everything I was supposed to. I did, you know, whatever they wanted me to do, and I just wanted to make everybody happy. And so let's see. 18 twenties in, Western New York, and so he was that was when 18/20 was when Joseph Smith claimed to receive the visions from God, and we'll I'll show you a little slideshow about that. But that was a good question because I've never been asked that before. So and I've done a lot of interviews. So So I need to put that in my wheelhouse, but I did jump out at 34. I decided, you know, I'd gone through all that with my ex husband.
He was really, having you know, he basically got hooked on drugs and took off, and I couldn't even find him to get a divorce. It was really crappy because I couldn't divorce him. So Oh, shit. Yeah. I was I was like this guy. And finally, I was gonna run a newspaper article, and he finally popped up for a half a second. And I was able to send the papers and say, just behind them, let me go. Like, come on now. Nice. But in Mormonism, that's not true. In Mormonism, I am married to him for time and all eternity. Time and all eternity.
I will show you some I don't believe in that anymore, and I've renounced it. But, he yeah. He had a little hold on me there like that. And he even told me when I got remarried, he said, it doesn't matter. You're still my wife. Wow. Yeah. It was weird. It got weird. But I knew in my heart that couldn't possibly be, like, the real way the world must work. Right? Because even in the Bible, it says, tell what? Tell death do you part. And and it says in the Bible also that there will be no male nor female in heaven. There will be no marriage in heaven because we won't need it. We'll be as the angels. And so angels don't care about all that stuff unless they do, and then they become fallen angels. Now you got a whole problem. But
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It's a whole different story.
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That's a different that's the Nephilim angels. Right? Yeah. But, you know, we get 2 fallen angels and their children at a different chapter of this. But we we just were kinda stuck like that for some time. And like I said, I I didn't wanna upset my family. I my mom left, but she never went through the whole thing. She never went through the temple. She never did all the things. So she, you know, what my grandma would say about her is just, oh, well, she just doesn't know. You know, she's kinda forgiven. You know? Right.
Whereas I am an apostate. An apostate is where you have done all the things that I'm gonna show you here in a minute. And, you do know, and then they consider you going to outer darkness. And so I am up in their standards, doomed to outer darkness, in nothingness, very similar to purgatory of the Catholics. And I will remain there, without god or anyone else for the rest of my life in Mormonism. Why don't we roll that?
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The funny thing oh, no. Oh, I gotta I gotta get rid of that that that sentence. I I said that yesterday in in a podcast with Davey all the time. Like, oh, the funny thing the funny thing well, it's not funny anymore when you talk about funny thing funny thing. But that's that's my little ego that's a narcissistically talking to myself right now. But the, the fascinating thing, that's a better word, is if you look at Abrahamic religions, like, Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. They are basically built upon other religions, my belief.
Yep. Yep. What but but this Mormon stuff seems to be, like, also, like a franchise commercialized method to get people into No.
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Yeah. They became a corporation. You're not un unwise about this. And I'll show you the occult beginnings here in a minute. But the corporation side of things, I actually do a show called the Mormon mafia. And, this is a real thing that happened, and they started corporatizing very early. In fact, the story of the Mormons is, okay. They're gonna run away from the government. They're gonna go west, and they're gonna go to Mexico, which was Utah at the time. So they were actually in Mexico. And the first thing they do here as they're running for their lives is call the government and say, hey, government. Do you want us to help you build a railroad? Does that seem like that makes sense to you? Oh, wow.
Yeah. It doesn't. Yeah. And so they are actually the Mormons have infiltrated every facet of the three little actually the Mormons have infiltrated every facet of the 3 little letter agencies, including the NSA, FBI, CIA. They are very knee deep and have I I have proof that there are multiple people even clear up to Watergate. And, you know, you can't prove anything nowadays because they've gotten so good at hiding their tracks, but the Mormons are, number one draft pick for the CIA, just so you know.
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Do do do we have any names of of, like, famous Mormons?
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Yes. So some of the people that were involved with the Mormon mafia, like the gays, gay, They are very famous up to this day. Their corporations live on through the Howard Hughes industry. Howard Hughes, the actor. And also the Huntsmans, are through that, the Bennetts. All of these people, like, have become senators, the Rob Romneys. Mitt Romney is involved in this whole thing. You guys, like, this goes deep. Like, when you when you get into the Mormon mafia end of things, and even when the Mormons don't, like, coexist and combine, like, together as Mormon brothers, they're still freemasons.
Don't forget. And then also, you know, minus even the freemasons part, people say, oh, well, freemason. You know? Okay. Whatever. But here's the other thing. There are a lot of them involved in the Rotary Club International.
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Right. That must be so it's a very powerful and very wealthy club of people with a belief system that could screw us up.
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Well, I always like to mention this, in my Mormon mafia, like, presentation is, do you know who the largest farmland owner in the United States is? I think it was Bill Gates. Right? Right. And do you know who number 2 seed is? The Mormons. The Mormon church. And do you know who the number one shareholding portfolio 2024 and before is of the Mormon church? Microsoft.
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Yeah. I listened to your podcast with Derek's dead. Tesla. Yep.
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Yep. Tesla's 10. Tesla's 10, but Microsoft is number 1. So they are definitely in cahoots with old Billy boy. And the thing about Bill is is everybody likes to talk about Bill Gates' dad because he was a eugenicist and he's an easy pick. You know, it it's kinda like saying, oh, the Rothschilds. Right? When there's a 100 other names that are way more important. 1, you can't even say on air. We'll get, like Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Coming in. Yeah. Starts with a p starts with a p and ends with an r. So we'll just put that out there, but the same thing here going on. Right? Okay. So on all of this stuff, when you're looking at it and you say, okay. Well, why is Tesla's number one financial adviser, Jared Burchall, even though he doesn't have all of the backings for that, he really doesn't fit. Well, Jared Burchall is a Mormon.
And he has been Elon Musk's guy for years years since 2006. And so I find it very interesting that every time you turn around, the Mormons are popping up, especially with money. And I do think they are going to be part of the silent overtaking of a new world order plan. They're very into this stuff, you know, and people can call me a crazy conspiracy theorist, but when I show you some stuff in their holdings, like, especially look up the enzyme peaks enzyme peaks problem that they had a few years back. And the fact that they were finally allowed to build a temple in Rome right next to the Vatican, not in Vatican City, but right next door. That something.
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Yeah. That's That's, like, big. That's, like, even for people with a religion that know is, like, that's a big one. Yep. Because they've never done it before. Yeah. Exactly. But but what is it that that, is your belief that it's a bad thing that of course, a lot of people that are in in the top of the world power and financial have a religion, whatever that religion is. But why should we be very careful with people that are, Mormons?
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Well, I feel like, you know, regular people, the regular grandma down the street or my family or or me, they don't tell us this stuff. All the stuff I'm gonna show you today is hidden. It's a cultic. And they don't want you to know, by the way, like, they don't want anybody to know. But these powerful powerful people, these powerful companies, they they have turned their religion into a corporation. And anytime you do that with power, like, how how the old joke is all all roads lead to Rome. Right? Like, it's no longer about God. That isn't about God. That's about mammon.
So, Harvey, now let's be honest. You know? And I'm gonna show you some stuff today that's gonna show you exactly what I'm talking about with mammon, which is funny enough. But I just feel like they are lying about what they represent, and I got out of Mormonism and just believe in God. I just believe in God and the Bible, and I read all the extra canonical books. I believe in the book of Enoch. I believe in all kinds of things. And, you know, I I don't, go to a church. I I don't believe in organized religion. It's corrupt. I I just feel like and I'm sorry for anybody that really likes that. I know there's traditions involved with it and stuff, but I just step back and look at the history of whatever you're in. It will probably be corruption.
Yeah.
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And it's funny because we've just talked about it. You see, there there it is again. Funny. Funny. I'm the funny man. But, we talked about briefly before we hopped on this podcast about paganism, which I consider more my kind of if if you call the belief system, it's not like a religion. It's something like I know I can point out my source of creation out there. It's a source of creation. It's a source of of debt and construction the same way. You know? But,
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oh, now I lost my train of thought. That's cool, Rob. Coffee. But it yeah. But it's not corrupt. I mean, they can't corrupt a a feeling. They can't corrupt a a thought or even a a book because you're gonna read a book and I'm gonna read a book and I'm gonna say something different than you're gonna say because we have different brains. You know what I mean? Jeez. So they can't corrupt that. Perception and stuff like that. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And so they can't really corrupt the core belief per se, but they can tweak things to make it just so good, and they have. And so the Mormonism that began, which I'm gonna share in just one moment on my screen, is not the Mormonism of today. I do not believe, because somebody came in and corrupted it. And it started very, actually, I mean, it was very interesting. It was not, you know, it's very solomonic.
We'll say that. They were practitioners of magic. And I can prove it. And they don't want that out there because they want to, did you ever watch Family Ties when you were younger, the shows? Yes. Say they Alex Geek Heaton did. Okay? They be a very suit and tie. You know, where this not we're not weird. You know, they didn't wanna be weird anymore. And so Right. They corporatized it, and and they made it very respectable. They made it very, admirable, but not at the top level. They're doing whatever the hell they want. You know? They're just hiding it. It's just like government. It's it's the same thing. You know? And you talked about in in talking still about, the the Mormon mafia that, they were perfect because they didn't drink.
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They didn't gamble. So they were very straight edged. Yes. Right? Yes. But is is it a little bit comparable with, with Yamash?
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I would say a little a lot different because they are they are not they tell us as we grow up as Mormons, be in the world, but not of the world where the Amish are not in the world. They don't want to be. They are out of the world. And so that. Yeah. And so we would always be told that, right, that we we had to be the example that we were not saved by grace. They do not believe in that. They believe that you are saved by works, and that is a really shitty thing to tell people. Okay? Like, you have to the reason why there's so many overachieving Mormons is because we're used to trying to earn our way to heaven. I mean, that's just the truth. And there is no free ride ticket to heaven on Mormon train. No. Okay.
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So it's it's basically involved with a lot of money or some things you have to do.
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Very much. And so There you I think this would be a great time to show you something, and I will feed it through us. Wait. You're
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I just sent it. Oh, you did that already? Oh, that's good because I was struggling to find it.
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You're good. How? There we go.
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Alright.
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Yes. You are. Okay. Perfect. I think it's ready to share. And let me try to pull this up really quickly here. And it's very interesting, like I said, that the Mormons, you know, you have to know something about who they are and what they are about to know anything about them because everybody has a past. Right? Right. And so you have to know about people's families. This is why they study in, like, you know, different things like sociology and stuff or psychology. Like, where did you come from? Oh, it's all your mother's fault. Like, okay. So let's that.
Yeah. So we'll talk about his mother. We'll go there first. Just add to just Smith. Sorry to interrupt you. Really quick, you probably you know that. I got here,
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the, what's it called in English? So you got a loudspeaker. You get gallery, more speakers. How can I how can I adjust this one so when you talk that the that you're full screen?
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Oh, it might not right now only because I'm doing a presentation. So it'll just yeah. It'll make me little right now, but that's okay. Okay. And so this is Joseph Smith's family, and this is his genealogy record. And Mormons are obsessed with genealogy. So his parents, the the parents of his dad are named something that I found very curious. Now I do not ever, condemn anyone for their beliefs. Like, I do not condemn if you wanna be a satanist, go ahead. Like, just don't lie to me about it and tell me that I'm gonna be a Christian, and I'm gonna go to heaven for doing these certain things. Okay? So this is my problem, you know.
So when we look at this name for Joseph Smith's dad's dad, Azael. Sound familiar like Azazel? Like Azazel. Like the Wow. Yeah. And so Are you already,
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sharing your screen now? Oh, yes. Is there a can't see anything. Uh-oh. Okay. Let me let me go back. But Azazel, yes. That's a very familiar name if you know a little bit about the demonic gods.
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Yes. For sure. Oh, why did it did it kick me out? Maybe it did. Let's see. Okay. Let me try that share one more time. Oh, there it goes. Okay. It did. It kicked me out. Sorry about that. I was like but I'm in here now. I can see. Okay. So
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let's do entire screen. Yeah. I got same problem with my telephone. So, I I think some, 2 or 3 letter organizations are not that happy with the the the news that it's doing sometimes. Yeah. They probably about it, but some somehow it's just like, okay. Let's see. Why is it Yes. Now I see your,
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Okay. You can see the the the oh, just zoom. That's so strange. Why is it? Okay. Let me go back to this and see if this will work. No. Oh, no. No. No. No. Stop that. Okay. It's being silly. There we go. Hopefully can you see Joseph Smith now? Yes. Okay. Perfect. Okay. So his dad's dad's name is Azael, and his dad mom's name is Mary. So that's interesting. And then we've got another the mother's side who is a Mac. And you being from another country, you probably recognize that last name. Mac is a a Scottish last name usually.
They're there, and they're not papered, so it's hard to know. But I also found it strange and interesting that the dad's name was Solomon being if he's if he's Irish or Scottish. Right? Like Yes. Because that's a very Jewish name. I mean but, you know, whatever. Yeah. So we can we can make some conjectures here and maybe wonder, did he change his last name to be more fitting maybe to her last name? We don't know because they're not papered. But Solomon is a curious name for for a Scottish or Irish man. So this is a drawing of his mother, and this is Lucy Mack Smith.
And this paper I show her simply because I'm gonna read you something, and I think you'll probably catch it. Now this says and this was just a letter to her friend and it is in the church history museum. I like to bring receipts because Mormons will often say I'm lying. She's lying. She's full of it. Blah blah blah. Okay. Well, this is why I do this. So it says, let not my readers suppose I shall pursue another topic for a season that we stopped our labor and went at trying to win the faculty of a brac, drawing magic circles, or soothsaying to the neglect of all business. So she is saying, I'm not lazy. That's not all we're doing. Right? But she said some interesting things there.
Right? Right. So the faculty of Abraak is I mean, you cannot unassociate it with the god Abraxas, and it is where the term abracadabra comes from. And abracadabra, you know, if you're drawing these pyramids, these abracadabra triangles, they're very associated with freemasonry, but let's remember, she is a woman. So why on earth is Lucy Mack talking about such things? Right? Magic? Witchcraft. And witchcraft, and she is known as a folk healer. Well, okay. So now we know a little about what's going on in the kitchen at home, you know, basically. And he's in this burned over district full of the new revival of religion at the time.
Everybody's got a new religion, and it's it's all over the place. And he says to God, he prays out in the woods, is the story. God, where should I go to church? What church is correct? I don't know what to do. So that's a good thing. That's not bad, but he has a fit of darkness come over him. Now that is curious. Remember that for a moment because we'll talk about it again. But he wakes up to see God the father and the son, which are separate entities for the Mormon church and so is the holy ghost. Mhmm. And so they they believe in 3 separate people and no trinity.
No trinity. Not the trinity. Okay. Yes. And so he's talking to them and they say, do not join any of them for we will send you a messenger and he will give you more information about about what you're supposed to do. Well, he does. So they send him a quote unquote angel Moroni. Now here's the thing I want to tell you. Moroni once lived upon the earth. He was a part of a native American clan that was here, but now he's turned white and delightsome. He's the most white native American ever now. But Wow. If somebody has lived on the earth before, are they an angel?
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No. Question could be.
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Well, according to the bible, angels never had bodies. Right? Never ever have they had a body. They're spirits. Spirits can live and be on the earth, and then die and come back. But like they're not really here here, and they're considered spirits. So Yeah. We get into this curious thing at this point already. Because actually, Joseph Smith says God's name is Elohim. Mhmm. Well, that's curious. Elohim isn't a God. Elohim is many things.
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Yes.
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Yes. So it is a title. You know? It's a title. And it's basically, anything that lives outside of this realm. Okay? Not in our physical realm. True. And so it's curious to me that all of this stuff comes up with Joseph because they say it happened just he was just praying, and that's how it happened. Right? Like, he's just praying and boom, it happens. But that's not really what happened. And I'm gonna tell you guys the true story. And this is Moroni, and he's usually on top of every temple that the Mormons build. And the temples are not churches. They are a special place. You have to have, like, special credentials to go in there. And what is he blowing? He's blowing a trumpet, which is really interesting when you go into Solomonic magic. Because what do they use to bring the spirits forth?
They use a trumpet. And so, you know, I dare say many people want to talk about how Joseph Smith was a freemason. Well, that is true. He was a master mason.
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However He was a master mason.
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He was. He actually attained his master masonry in one day in one day. And so his brother's name is Hiram. His brother. Yeah. So this is obviously a freemasonic family. And I mean, you don't just name your brother Hiram, like the parents knew some freemasonry there. Right? Like Hiram Abiff. And so I dare say that this family was actually not just freemasons. I think they were something called Martinus. Now this is a conjecture on my end, and I will always tell you when it's a conjecture or a fact. But I've done a fair amount of research on this, and I really think there's some good, examples for it, and we'll get there in the future. But but anyways, in Martinism, it is a practitioner, craft. They actually practice Solomonic magic. They don't just learn about it. They don't do it just by signals or hand things. They invoke.
They evoke. They, actually you have talismans. They do all kinds of things. They are practicing magic. And so, you know, I think this might have been what Joseph Smith was probably used to. But for years years, over 200 years, the official church history said, there was nothing about seer stones. This was the picture they told me as a child that he found these plates on a hill, because the angel told him where to go and he dug them up. Eventually he got them, and now he's translating them with something called the Urim and Thummim, which is very Abrahamic. Okay. That's like an Abrahamic thing. The chest plate of righteousness.
And so that's the story I got told. Okay. Well, the true story is this was channeled. This was channeled no different than John d channeled his Anokian workings. It was channeled by blocking out all of the light, by putting a seer stone in a hat. Well, this hat comes out of nowhere. None of us Mormons that are older, like, knew anything about a hat except on South Park. On South Park, they said it and we all laughed and said, isn't South Park stupid? They got it all wrong. Right? They got it all right. Right. So here is the prophet of the church right now. The prophet, seer, and revelator of the church. Is that Russell?
Title. Russell m Nelson. Yes. And he is a 100 years old. Russell on Nelson is a 100. And he pulled this hat out of the I don't know. They've got special tunnels and things. They pull it out of the vault and do this photo stunt, you know, with him. And the funny thing is they've never done this before. But Russelon Nelson isn't your typical prophet, and I have to tell you, he is a member of Skull and Bones, and the Skull and Bone Society of Utah. And the Stolen Bone Society of Utah was set up and formed by actually sanctioned members of Yale.
So this was a sanctioned chapter where Yale actually went and set this up for the University of Utah. Now I'm gonna ask you again. Why the hell would such a prestigious university care 2 shits about what a crazy bunch of polygamous Mormons running for their life are doing out in Utah? Doesn't make sense. Again, doesn't make sense. So he is a member of this. He is also a member of the University of Utah's Owl and Key. At the bonesman at Yale, it's scroll and key. But there, it's owl and key like an owl.
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Right. Like Bohemian Grove. They got your skull and bones again.
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Again. Yes. And so I I put this little picture in there because some people aren't familiar with, the different utensils of magic. And this shows a few of them. Right? We've got a wand. We've got a sword. Well, a dagger. We've got Elektra. And all yeah. All these things. And so I'm gonna show you some things that are very curious about Joseph Smith including the hat, and he was known to be a treasure digger. He was known as a scryer. He would scry for his father and tell them where to go, and and and, you know, the angels that would help him, and help him find the treasure and all this stuff. So he sucked at it, just so you guys know. He actually went to court because he sucked so bad that they took him to court over it. Wow. So, yeah, this family was kind of known as, like like, a magical folk, a rip off family, basically.
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Is this a real picture of of him or or drawing?
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This this is a rendition of him with his magic hat and his layman pouch, which is very important if you know anything about magic, but this layman pouch on his chest. And then the seer stones. So somebody recreated this. And we put it in there to show that these seer stones, they advertise them now. They show them now. None of this was ever exposed to us as kids ever. And they literally dug this up on another person's property, Willard Chase, and he asked to borrow it. He never gave it back. So Mormonism is built upon a stolen rock. He never gave the rock back. It's special. So he had more than one. He had multiple. They say that brown one was his favorite. This was a green one that he used often.
This white one, I believe is the the magical one because of two reasons. Number 1, the church has it and won't let a picture be taken of it. This is a drawing. And number 2, they sit there and say, oh that brown one was the best one, but it's not made of anything overly awesome. This is made of quartz. This has properties of quartz. And I do believe if anything was going to have magical properties, it would be a crystal type substance. Right? Right. So, you know oh, it went crazy. It likes to do that now. Anyways, so I do wanna say that Joseph Smith didn't immediately get those plates like it shows and like my church told me, like, they just basically got them one day and, oh, it was miraculous and easy. No. It didn't didn't happen like that. So I will tell you the story now of how it actually happened. On the fall, on the fall, like, equinox, the last day, at the middle of the night, he had to dress all in black. He had to invoke spirits by actually channeling them with sigil magic, and I'll show you guys some stuff here in a minute. And he had to do this at a specific time and place every year for years years, and talk to the angel, which is the spirit, you know, that he could bring back only at that time of the year. Now this is again where Martinism comes in. Martinists believe that they can speak to spirits and bring them back to the earth twice a year on the fall and spring equinox. Well, that's curious. Isn't it? So knowing what I know about that and knowing this story about one of the times that he tried to go get the plates and a and a toad, something like a toad was guarding them.
What do we know about toads? They are witches familiars. You know, oftentimes toads are associated with magic. And this toad turns into a man and punches him in the face, and says you cannot take him because you're not ready. Because it's it's you're doing it wrong. So bring your brother next year, bring your brother here. And in the middle of the night again, like, this doesn't sound very Christian. Like, in the dark of the night, dressed all in black, sounded ominous. Yeah. So he says, okay. I'll bring my brother next year. Well, problem is his brother dies suddenly.
After this whole thing happens, his brother dies before the next year comes about of constipation. Very interesting. He is the oldest son of Joseph Smith's dad. And that is also very interesting as we talk about magic and sacrifice and faustianism and different things. So okay. So this kid dies of an accidental overdose of constipation medication, which is weird. That's very,
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very weird.
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Yes. And so I want you to remember that as well because we're gonna get to the time where he actually does get the plates, but here we are setting up a story. So this is an actual rendition. Remember how I told you they sucked at treasure digging? Well, this is a rendition from the neighbor, Willard Chase, about what happened one night when they went treasure digging with them. These are the actual symbols that were written. And the funny thing about Willard Chase is they wanna say Willard Chase just lied. Okay? But remember what I told you. This wasn't just, hearsay. This was from a court case, and this is an affidavit.
So if you're going through and going to court back in the day, court really meant something and they're throw your ass in jail if you lied. You know, I just find it very unlikely that he lied about this fantastical story because it's fantastical. Right? It's it's not normal. And so he also said the part they left out, they love to leave out, is they slit a black sheep's throat with their magical dagger that I'm gonna show you in a minute and bled it all around this circle. Okay? So Wow. He oh, yeah. He also was known for sacrificing dogs, and they hate when that gets out. So this is all documented, Willard Chase affidavit in the Glasslicker case. You guys can go look it up. I'm not full of shit. Like, this is real. This is all the history. These sigils, are they moon sigils?
I'm gonna show you all about them. They're actually more than that. And so this is the ticket, the real ticket and the date of his court case. So if anybody would like to fact check me, I recommend it. That's great. Here is his little fine that he never paid. So, these are the Smith family magic relics. And they like to lie and say this belonged to the brother, because the brother and Joseph died at the same time in the same place. However, I'm gonna prove to you by well I can't prove it, but I can give you some examples of why I think it isn't. His brother was the one that was off at college.
He they wanna say these people were stupid lay folk that that didn't do anything but work the land, and that they didn't know how to read and write, and that they didn't know anything about schooling, but his brother went to Dartmouth. You heard me, Dartmouth College. And so that is a very prestigious school. On top of that when Joseph became ill when he was a child with typhoid fever, his mother called in surgeons from Harvard University. Now who the hell is she to be calling in physicians from Harvard? I'm sorry. That is connected. You don't just call people up if you're the dumb farmer down the road. No. To be real. No.
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So I think it's weird. But but that'd be funny if you go back one slide, please.
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I'm gonna show you up close even more. I'll show you Because I see a lot of,
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symbolic that's like, wow.
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Yeah. And we are gonna get into it right now. And Joseph died with this Jupiter talisman in his pocket. And the reason why they can't say this was the brothers is because his wife wanted it back. It was his most prized possession. It was a Jupiter talisman. And if you look it up and you actually zoom in on these tables and markings, and you've ever looked at something called the greater and lesser keys of Solomon, you are already understanding where I'm going with this. Now to make a talisman, you have to be a magical practitioner for some time. You can't just whip it out. You can't just pass by all of the other things you need to learn. He was an adept person at magic. I I promise you guys he is a magician and I don't really give a shit other than the fact they make Mormonism alive. Like, if they just would stop it, like, that cool. You know?
So this is what is on that talisman that I showed you, and this is the 3rd pentacle of Jupiter. This is in the lesser and greater keys of Solomon. This is how I found it by putting it in a reverse lookup because I didn't know what it was. I I'm not a magic practitioner. I don't even I didn't even know anything about the occult before I started podcasting. Right. And so, you know, I came about this pretty innocently, you know. I I wasn't trying to prove anything. I just was learning. And so I wanted to know what the hell I did, to be honest. Because I I I I read in the bible you shouldn't make any oaths. Well, I had made a lot of oaths. So I wanted to fix it. That was all I was trying to do. And so when I found this, I was a little taken back because now I'm looking for things that I have to study that are scary to me. Right? Because at the time, I was terrified.
Like, we're getting into doctor John d, Enochian magic. I didn't even know who that was. I didn't even know what that was. I didn't even know there was anything more than one type of magic in my whole entire life. Like, black magic, white magic, that's it. Right? Right. No. But I I didn't know anything. So this my mom is freaking out at this point. You have to understand, my mom lost her ever loved mind. She's like, you are buying the scariest books. You better cut it out. You know? And I'm like, no. I really feel like I should I need to do this. I I I know I do. And so I did. And I'll tell you this this particular talisman that he had says something very important on it. It says what? It says it protects and defends those who invoke.
Now that word is not those who are getting attacked, those who are having spirits sent at them. That isn't what it says. It says invoke, which means they are causing the spirits to come. They say this right here. And also Joseph Smith freely admits that he was channeling and talked to 26 dead people and or spirits and or angels, and he admits this including John the Baptist. So do you think as as an example with everything do you know about doctor John d's workings very good?
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No. Not yet.
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Okay. Well, doctor John d devoted his whole life. He was a Christian mystic. He was, somewhat of a, counselor type to queen Elizabeth the first. He wasn't part of court. He wasn't actually in the court, but his dad was. And so he is by her side always until she dies. Well, he is a mystic and he is doing magic. And he is doing, you know, the actual invoking with the black scrying mirror and an assistant. Well, he does this for upwards of 15 years. He loves God. He thinks he's talking to angels. He thinks that they're helping him. And then all of a sudden one day they throw him a curve. Okay? They're already throwing him lots of weird stuff, like like, do this, do that, and they're doing it. But, like, his assistant is getting sick of it because they're, like, you gotta get married. And he's, like, I don't want to. I don't know. And they were, like, yeah. You have to. And so he did it because they tortured him. They kept, like, poking him with swords coming out of books and all kinds of crazy stuff. And so he tries to run away twice.
And they people say he was a swindler. He was a liar. No. This guy is trying to escape. He doesn't even wanna play anymore. He's done. He's scared. He's got a wife now that he hates. Like, he doesn't want anything to do with any of this anymore, but he is stuck. He is stuck at the behest of these angels, and I put that in quotes. Now here's the thing, when you invoke a spirit, do you think it can lie to you? No. They can. They can lie to you. And not only and it says in the bible what? To be careful. To be careful of spirits. Even the verse that it says, go away, seraphim. I want nothing to do with you. Why do we have that? Because there are things that have been messed with that lie. They say they're angels. I don't think a true angel could lie, but I do think a a demon, a lesser lower level demon in the string.
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Yes. It reminds me of so. It reminds me of a podcast that I did, too with the Natalia Nathaniel, Gilles about demonology that they can eventually, have a different kind of, that they can show you what you want to see, but they're not.
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So they oh, wow. That's exactly true. Because why? If you believe in the heavenly realm, okay, if you believe that you have a guardian angel, people. Mhmm. If you believe in the spirits that are good, okay, Rob, knowing what you know as a pagan thought process, what's on the other side of that? What's on the other side of good?
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Bad. Right? Yes. We because Rob wants to
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Yes. We cannot have light without darkness. We cannot have any of it. So we have to know that there are things that we do not understand in this world that are being messed with and possibly lying to you. But here's the fun part. They know that you miss your dead grandpa more than anybody else on the planet because they've been watching you just like your guardian angel for all of your life. And they know you better than you know you, and they know the wants of your soul. They know all these things because what? We're constantly tested. Right? I mean, it's just part of life. And so even in duality, there's tests. Even if you don't believe in Jesus, there's tests. So we constantly are faced with these choices in life, and this I believe was a dark spirit that lied to these people because I'm gonna tell you why. All of a sudden they're in the midst of, like and they're mean to them all the time. They're, like, you smell bad, You need to take extra bath before we see you. We hate human beings. You guys are disgusting.
Like, they're just mean all the time. And so all of a sudden they're, like, hey. We have an idea. Remember they made the one guy get married. They're like, you need to share everything, and we do mean everything. So swap some lives up, swap them lives, and we want to have that happen. Now do you think anything from a benevolent being would have you do this?
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It doesn't sound right. I know. It doesn't It it no. Also, in the bible, there are some I think it's Nephilim that are having intercourse with women.
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Yes. Nephilim. But they're already fallen. And so, of course, that's my conjecture is this is probably fallen angels screwing with these guys. Right? Right. It. So all of a sudden, John Dee is faced with 15 years of his life. He has devoted everything to this. This is something he wants more than anything on earth. And what does he do? He knew at that point this becomes faustian. He knew at that point, this is probably not right. You know, this isn't really something that we should probably do, but he does it. And when he does it, there's the price to be paid. And guess what? His wife gets pregnant. And he has to raise this guy's kid forever until and they both end up breaking up. They don't end up finishing any more workings. They both die in obscurity.
The one dies with his legs cut off and being a prisoner, jumping out a window, and the other one dies his family, he watches everyone he loves. I daresay his was worse. Everyone he loves dies first. All from the from the plague and, like, they're tortured. And so it's horrible. You know? Well, we get into other religions because remember how I told you to put the spinning in the darkness in your back pocket? Well, what we know about Mohammed, let's do another one. Mohammed would go out in the desert. He had these scribes and they would go walking and different things, and he would have fits of darkness come over him. He would fall down and pass out. And when he would wake up, he would say Gabriel told him a, b, c, d, and they would memorize it because they were a nonwritten people. And then they wrote it down eventually, and it became a religion. But then shortly after all this, what does Mohammed do? What does he do that's distasteful to many?
He marries a 9 year old girl. He marries a 9 year old girl and says it's okay because she has precocious puberty. Because she already has, you know, womanly attributes. And so now we have, the price to be paid that isn't heavenly. And also what is he in state? Polygamy. And hell holding women down and, you know, kind of making sure that there's no real light coming from these women, which is again, it's not right. Duality always exists. We need one with the other. So Right. You know, he he does that. Well, Joseph Smith is in this for the same things. He's he ends up doing what and stating polygamy. We can do a fun one. You'll probably get this one more right or know of it, but same thing happens to Aleister Crowley.
Crowley goes to Egypt. And yes, he encounters Ewas. Everybody goes to lamb, but Ewas is more important because why? The book of the book of the law comes from Ewas. He says write all this stuff down in a book and it becomes a religion. Every one of these things I'm telling you became a religion. And all of them had a price to be paid sexually or otherwise. Crowley's was easy. He was already playing Faustian all day long. He didn't give a shit. He didn't care. I mean, you know, he was yeah. I mean, he's doing man on planet. Right? Yeah. He didn't, mom. Dressed up all the school orgies, all that stuff. Although, I will say it hurt him very badly when he lost his daughter, and I do wonder if that was part of the bargain. But because most of these people have lost their children in this process. So he did lose a daughter that hurt him extremely badly.
And so, you know, but, again, let's do another one. Let's do L. Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons doing Babylonian workings in the desert. They're already paying the sexual price right then and there. We know because if you've studied that, you guys know what's up in there. And they're doing some weird stuff. And then all of a sudden what? They come out of it and they write it all down and it becomes Scientology. So there's nothing new under the sun. These things continue. John d's workings become a big crooks for the continuation of the crusades, and the Christianity movement, and all the things that happened there. So, like, when I speak of all this stuff, you know, I just don't believe that anything that comes in the in the essence of goodness, in in God's pure love would give us these horrible fasting things. They he he wouldn't. No. And so, you know, I say that because this leads into some weird places, and I think these men had to have known at some point.
At some point, they made the bargain because at some point when they say, hey, swap wives, you know you're not dealing with God anymore. I'm sorry. Yeah. Demons. And so yeah. Exactly. They're getting their rocks off and it is what it is, you know. But to do magic, we know there are certain things, including a dagger, that are extremely important. Now a dagger can be, not used to kill. It can be used, like, kind of as a wand, but, also, it can be used to kill when it's a ceremonial dagger. And I like to explain, you know, this can be a prayer that's already on the knife.
So, keeps doing that. Prayer that's already on the knife so that it they don't have to stop and say anything when they when they do the sacrifice.
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So when we're talking
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and and not just the seal of Mars, the bottom row is even more important. The intelligence of Mars. Now it doesn't sound like anything. Intelligence of Mars sounds like I'm just talking fancy talk. That means demon. Intelligences are demons.
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And Mars is also related to war. Mhmm. Like Tir Yeah. Like Tuesday?
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Yes. Yep. Wow. And all of this stuff is happening at this time. And these tables are Solomonic tables. Now this table that I'm showing you and and this translation of it from the knife handle is from Barrett. Barrett wrote what? The magus. The magus. This is not, from the bible. This is not from something heavenly. This is from a witchcraft book, you guys. This is, you know, that's I'm sorry. That's just what it is. This is
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you wanna go back? Yeah. If if if you a few slides back yeah. Don't do it. But a few slides back, I saw also the so the occult, thing that, Himmler was doing with the SS tribes here in in Weevilsburg. Well Black Sun is old. It was very dark, occult.
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The Mormons symbol. The Mormons are very involved with the Nazis, and we will Oh, okay. We can talk about right now. Another time. Yeah. It gets complicated, and I do believe they're part of the one world order from all of this stuff, but they hide it. And this is a nowadays picture. This picture is current. This is a Martinist order. These are Martinist freemasons. They are a French magical order. Now let me tell you something that people will tell you is they'll say, oh well, he was in the Scottish right of freemasonry. Bullshit. Wanna know why I say it's bullshit?
Because he got his whole revelation in 18/20, and he's dead by, like, 18 fifties, sixties right in there because they murder him. So I have to tell you guys, like, that by this point in the 18 twenties, Scottish Rite Freemasonry was barely being organized maybe 50 years, maybe. So this French order, however, it had been going for a long time. And the funny thing is is I was I was researching like, well, who who did he know that went to France? Like, who where's the connection? Like, what where is this at? You know? And again, like I mentioned, the the Mormonism was very ingrained in the Welsh community, first of all.
And the first book of Mormon ever translated outside of English was in Welsh very early on because there were so many members that were Welsh. But also you have to understand he looked up to this guy that was basically his teacher named Lumen, which is hysterical like light giver. Walters. And so Lumen Walters came back just recently from France and then hooks up with Joseph Smith. Well, they said he came back a little different and he was this doctor, but he really wasn't a doctor and he was very known to be an occultist. And so he came back without god. Literally, they said godless and cultic.
So I do believe that Lumen Walters was either in an order such as this or this particular faction. And actually, I have to tell you, this goes on to this day. Ike Baker was just on tinfoil hat and said he is a Martinist. So Bro.
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So what you see here in the picture for the people that are listening to this podcast, people are in in in ropes and in, cloaks. They blinded their eyes with some, what's it called? What's the English word of, like, the blindfold? Yeah. The mask. Yeah. Mhmm. They they have wide long gallons under their cloak. And, we we see see some few, things like a sword, and also a black and white and a red and white, like a candy, which is squirreled. You see also that one in the background. Right? So did the the red and white and the black and white. Can you tell me a little bit about that? What it what does it mean? What
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What Martinism is, I can tell you. I'm not sure about the background, but I do know this about Martinism because I did a show on Martinism, and it is a branch of actual magical working masonry. It did come from France, and they are magical practitioners actually using Solomonic magic with the lesser and greater keys of Solomon. So Martinism was started by this guy here in the middle called Pasquale, and then to the left is Saint Martin, and to the right is Willemos. These three men were critical. They are this is a Kabbalistic arts order. Mhmm. And actually, this guy here, Saint Martin, he's known as the unknown philosopher, and he really didn't want anything to do with angels ever again after he did this. First, he said, yes. Talk to the angels twice a year, blah blah blah. And then he must have had a bad experience. I don't know. But then he said, no. Don't do it.
It's all should be internal. And he started something else called the order of the heart, which means, yes, study it, but don't don't do it. And he actually is one of the ones quoted as saying, get away, Seraphim. I want nothing to do with you, basically, from the bible. So it scared him to death. And, this also, Willermo's here, he reorganizes things into the CBCS, which is critical for the future of masonry. Like, I mean, this goes on to today. But also it it has a very Templar, Knights Templar infusion into all of this. And Pasquale as well was known to get some of this magic from Haiti.
He was over in Haiti, and from black magical arts is where he learned a lot of this. And this seal up here is their seal.
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And it is you know? I mean, it's so fascinating that you just point out so many things about religion that has been commercialized. It's been been brought up by people just like, okay. We're gonna do it, on this spectrum. They're gonna have a lot a lot of funding, a lot of people involved in it. Yeah. But it's not like one of them. All their fucking religions are based on that. I tell all together. They're all together. Yeah. And it doesn't mean, that that that you you should believe in the in in good things,
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and do good for others and stuff like that. But They've corrupted it. With religion, man, because Yes. Yes. The they've corrupted it. The Bible is not corrupt. The things that, you know, you can pray. The reason why God says in the Bible so many times to what? Pray about this. Use discernment. Think about things yourself. The reason why god gave us critical thinking skills is because of men like this. They're using you guys, you know, the there's nothing better than religion to organize men. I'm sorry. Like Oh, yeah. If you got yeah. And look at the guy in the middle picture how how he looks
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so nice.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's very regal. And also this goes into Cagliostro. If you know anything about Cagliostro and the order that goes back to Egypt for the freemasonry. So these guys all knew each other, and guess who else they hung out anew? Swedenborg. So I'm just saying, like, this stuff is not new. This stuff is old, and they revitalized it. And so magic has been here for as long as the Earth has been here. You guys, like Yeah. Is Some is it crazy to say that
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mankind has been corrupted by all religion or politics, and both go hand in hand together?
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Absolutely. Yeah. But well, I think the best quote to ever, say anything about is absolute power corrupts absolutely. And anytime you get, you know, all the free thinkers out and you make anything mainstream and you say his way is wrong, you're wrong, this is wrong, that that's wrong. You know, I don't know that God does that. You know? God just doesn't doesn't do that. And so, I just think that that's just that's just not how it works. You know? And so I I don't know. I just now I just believe in God, and I pray to God, and I believe in Jesus. But I I believe in the Bible, but I just don't believe in any religion.
I'm I'm not a partaker of it. I I just do my own thing. I'm over I actually got rebaptized, but I made sure it was in a reservoir, and it wasn't by a a churchy person really. I mean, it just I I just don't do anything like that.
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So So I I just forgot what when we hopped on, I forgot to ask you 14 questions, which I normally do at the end of the podcast. I'm gonna do that anyways. But, yeah. No. No. It's just just me
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skipping branch like screwing good. Calmly. You're you're good. You're good. So when I was looking up and trying to figure out things about the greater and lesser keys of Solomon, This is what I found was a free PDF. It has been digitized by Brigham Young University. How fun is that? By Mormon College. So I just think that the and and with funding
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from Brigham Young Young. Why do they care about magical books? Why do they care about that? Right. I don't know. And the the I think the Ling is very fascinating.
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Us is being crazy. Stop. Stop. It went cuckoo. Okay. So for that matter, I just think it's funny that they they like to fun things that have nothing to do with their religion. And this is just some cards and some pictures from Solomonic magic practitioners. It's just showing people kind of what that looks like. Mhmm. And this, to prepare them for remember when I told you to remember about the layman holder around his neck? Yes. Was this this is what was inside of it. Exactly. So this is a this is called the holiness to the Lord parchment. This is actual direct workings and sigil magic period. These things either come from Francis Barrett's magus, Sibley's book of witchcraft, occult sciences.
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Oh, there we go. God. That's okay. You can combine them. You can combine them. Yes. Well, I I won't edit anything normally, but, I don't know what's what's happening. I just screwed up. I know. Mine just went crazy too. Yeah. You don't want to bring this out. Yeah. I'm certain of that. I am certain of that. So this on Sibley's book of witchcraft, which by the way, if you try to buy that book, it's, like, very expensive nowadays. But when this says they should pay him homage, the spirits, that's very strange. And when they're locked in a seal like this, this is this is like a jail for them. They have to do what is said. Okay? But again, when we look back at this paper, not everything has a seal around it. Not everything does. And these are all calling down. Like, this is Raphael. And I put this in here so people can deep dive it or look at it, but we're gonna there's more, up close slides here in a second.
But, obviously, everything on here is not I mean, would you ever see this at a church? I don't think so. No. You see this, probably on supernatural,
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when they are dealing with angels and when they are dealing with the demonic kind of stuff.
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That's right.
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Yes. And and the it's also very fascinating that's it looks a little bit like ruins, which are very, very old, of course. And, yeah, it it these are sigils. So these are Sigil magic. Yes. Yes. They they are for a purpose of magic with a k.
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And this star, remember, they didn't have the circle around the star. So that means he is working with these things. Okay? He is specifically working and has a working exchange relationship with some of these things. And so when you're looking at that, and all of these ones that didn't have it around it, it that means he has a a working relationship with them. Because there's more angels than 1, and demons for that matter. So these are some of them that are on there. Polly paw, Juban Lades, funny enough, that's actually a freemason password on one of their passwords.
Like, they know this stuff. You know, the now gob. All of these things are are and people will say, well well, that doesn't look bad because it's trying to make sure he doesn't get attacked by evil spirits. Well, you have to remember who was invoking the evil spirits to begin with, and that was Joseph Smith. Oh, wow. So It can go one backwards. Yes. So
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So Nel Gapp protects the mind and senses of a petitioner of infernal magic from the attacks of witches and evil spirits. He is thought sought on specific astrological dates by and by blood. He has a bow, shield, and spear to protect the wearer from his sigil, from witchcraft, and suicide. So right there, what you just read, you know and I know that there was more to it than even just this weird magic. Now we're talking about blood magic. Oh, yes. Exactly. That's what I wanna point it out. And it's not only like the witchcraft that you you you you practice, but also for suicide from demons that could do things with you. Like hang on doorknob in some kind of way.
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And so people wanna say, you know, these things are not necessarily bad if if he's going to go talk to these or whatever. But if they're not bad ones, they're protection ones. But here's my question for you all. If you are a Christian, you do not do that. You do not commune with spirits to do these things. Who do we go to? We go to God. So my problem with the whole thing is is he's already said God for him was Elohim. He is obviously working with multiple spirits. He is not a Christian. And I don't really care. If he wants to go do a satanic powwow, I just really don't give a shit. But I don't think he was doing that. I'm just saying, I don't think it's right that they are misleading 100 of 1000 of people into something that they do not understand.
You should have the ability to understand what you do. That's what my point is. And so, you know, when you're talking about this stuff, this is how everything was made in Mormonism. That he was directly communing with spirits. And he was invoking them. It's not like they were showing up. Like they weren't just coming out of nowhere. This is the second one. This is his next parchment called the Jehovah, Jehovah, Jehovah parchment. And he's got a pentacle there. He's got the sign for Jovan Ladace. He's got the seal in the middle. And actually, if I remember correctly, it's Venus, which isn't necessarily a good one. People think that it is, but it isn't. And and you can look into all this stuff with the lesser and greater keys of Solomon. That's why I did put in there where you can get the free PDF because it's a lot of homework. I did a ton of homework for this. Wow. And and I'm telling you guys, just because it says Jehovah, it doesn't always mean what we say it means. Right? Just like Zeus has a different name in other places. Just like Yes. What yeah. And be careful because words are spells. So maybe they want you to say some pronouncing some names
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because you are, dealing with some spirits that you call upon, that you do not know. That's exactly what they do nowadays. Oh, wow. When I
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when I get you to the part where we go to the temple, which we're coming up on, I I'm telling you pre prewarning, I truly believe that the Mormon church uses the sheep just like the Jewish people. Like they get used they they use the goyim, and they say, oh, okay. We're gonna use them for magic. Just like what happened with that freaking tie Tyson fight. That was nothing but a power grab loose. Well, that was a loose grab. It was all orchestrated to get everyone to have a lot of energy to power something. And people that don't believe in that, I don't know what to tell you guys, but it's real. Like, when he, you know, it's just the universe we are batteries. Like, why can they put a pacemaker in someone and have the battery last for years years years years years because it's running off your electrical conduction.
Right? And so when we are talking about things like that, and it does have a battery as well, but I'm saying it lasts astronomically long. And so when we look at this, you know, you can't say that that the the universe doesn't have energy. I'm sorry. Like, that is one part where if you're an atheist or whatever and you don't wanna believe in stuff like that, like, that's okay. But, it it doesn't make a lot of sense. You know? Even if you don't believe in God, you have to believe that something has energy. The sun has energy that's, you know, rounding all kinds of things. So Yes. When we're talking about this stuff, I like to bring that up, and they use necromancy. And I do wanna bring up that most of the church, almost all of the church practices that we do are highly gone to necromancy, and I'll show you guys. But this was an actual I like to bring the real details and the real receipts.
This is a actual publication from Joseph Smith senior, the dad of Joseph Smith, which he ran in the Palmyra in September of 18 24 saying, and I'm gonna paraphrase. If you saw if you saw us dig up our dead son, Alvin, well, that's because we were checking because you guys said we dug him up and we didn't dig him up. So we're gonna prove to you that we didn't dig him up by digging him up. Well, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But, you know, I'm not Joseph Smith. But I am saying this, I don't think it's very, it doesn't make any sense. It's just basically covering their ass so that if some people saw them, you know, messing with a grave, and they could say, oh, well, we were fixing stuff because we were showing you that the body hadn't been disturbed.
Well, I don't know about that. Oh my god. So we're gonna get into what we do in the temple. And one of my favorite things to show at this point, this is a real church paper.
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And I know that guy.
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Yep. And guess what? They did his work in the temple. Now somebody attacked me last night on a show that I did because they said, oh, you have to be related to them to submit their stuff. Well, then how come all these they did all the Jewish people that were in the holocaust, they did Anne Frank, and they did Hitler. And so I'm just wondering, like, who was related to all those people? That's such a lie. Like, nowadays, maybe they put some stipulations on it because of this. Because when this happened and they started doing the Jews and Anne Frank specifically, the Jewish people got pissed off. They were like cut your shit.
Stop touching our dead people. Like knock it off. Now, you know, they said they would, but they didn't. And so they did all of Hitler's work to get him to heaven. All of it. To their Mormon heaven. Oh, wow. So, yes. They baptized him as a Mormon in this font right here, not this exact, but this is a replica. Right. With the oxen 12 oxen to represent the 12 lost tribes of Israel, they say. However, you and I both know what else oxen represent. And who do you put in the bowl? You know, you put children in here to do the baptisms. Well, that just sounds like Moloch to me, but, you know, whatever. Tomato tomato.
Okay. Sure. Yeah. But the this is done mostly by kids that are 12 to 16. You can do it if you're an adult, and you do this by proxy. And when I say by proxy, I literally mean you get in there and you are the dead person. They say, whatever George Gray, you know, you are George Gray today. You are the purse and so it often makes me wonder, first of all, are they attaching things to people? And second of all, you know, what exactly is the real reason for this? Although people will cite that there's baptisms for the dead in the bible, but you also have to remember about intention.
And what is happening here? Yeah. And so the magical stuff that we know already, it makes me wonder because then we get into more dead people stuff here. This is a cane made from the actual coffins of Joseph and his brother. After they were all gross and falling apart in these coffins for some amount of time before embalming was really a big deal. They took the wood, the rot the nasty disgusting leaked on wood, and made canes out of these. And then if that wasn't bad enough, they took hair from their heads, and they braided it, and they put it in the top of these. And so, you know, I just am telling you guys, like, sometimes when you have a wand, it's a small wand. But sometimes you have what did Gandalf have? He had a staff. Well, staff is a lot like a cane. You know? And these prophets, later on, they say these are hugely important and will become, like, a big, big deal in the end days and all this stuff. So, I mean, it is what it is, but it's still pretty creepy.
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I lost ash, though, and cranes because I make them myself.
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Right. But not out of dead people's stuff. No. Not not nuts. No.
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And I don't have any hair, so that's No. No. You know, that's not gonna fit.
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Yeah. No dead people stuff is in there. And so when we're talking about connections with the dead, it happens again and again. And this was Joseph Smith's actual staff. Now the interesting thing that I find about this is not only that the godhead is represented by multiple all seeing eyes, there's 3. And then it has his his initials j s. Right? Joseph Smith. But the one thing about Mormons that you have to know is they absolutely hate crosses. They hate the cross. And here we have an upside down cross. And I find that very fascinating.
Got it. I do not believe that these people were Christian in the way that we say Christian. And I do believe they are worshiping a god, but I do not believe it's god, like, of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Exactly. This is not like a a good fellow that's that's been looking down from the sky and have good intentions. No. No. And he and he's obviously worshiping multiple gods because he talks about this. You know? And so Josephine's cane was, shaped as a serpent. And he says it's a serpent cane, but I have to tell you something and you'll catch it. Doesn't it look a lot like the drawing of lamb from Aleister Crowley?
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Yes. Yes.
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I can't prove that. I'm just saying I'm gonna put a side by side in this slideshow because And it also looks a little bit like an alienated
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face. Yes. Especially the the, down of and which we all should know is, a lot of times when we have representations of the eagle and a snake, which I have as tattoo also, The snake is represented for wisdom, knowledge. So it doesn't have to be like a a a demonic kind of thing. But think about when you have more knowledge than the average people, the average Joe, and you walk around with that just in plain sight. Like, I got more knowledge than you. So what shit? Wow. Wow.
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Oh, you you muted, Heidi. There we go. Sorry about that. And so I do like to tell people another thing at this point is that Joseph Smith was once quoted as saying he had done more for mankind than any person ever had. And so I feel like you're right on that knowledge thing. I can't move this. I don't know why it moved. And so I there we go. I I just find it very interesting that he was already kind of full of himself, kind of like you're explaining, that he literally said that. He said, I have done more for the world than anyone else ever has. Oh, wow. Yeah. It that's really humble.
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Yes. And and and he was like a 33 degree mason within one day.
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One day. Yes. He rose. You you basically go to,
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to your, college and say, okay. Give me any exam that you are having here, and I can prove you that I have the knowledge.
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Absolutely. And when you're talking about somebody that's kind of got that, well, how do you think that happened? Right? Like, usually, it's not natural. It's a download. Usually, it's downloaded from who? Angels or something. You know, fallen angels, I dare say. I'm gonna show you a reenactment here. That's a very small clip of what we do in the temple. This is a reenactment, but it is accurate. There are changes because it is an old reenactment, but I will tell you which changes have happened. So here we go. I'm gonna show you this little clip. You knew it.
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Can you hear it okay? Yes. Yeah. I do. Yeah. Perfect. What you will see is an authentic first time ever on film reenactment of secret Mormon temple ceremonies that even most Mormons have never seen. And those who have,
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have sworn never to reveal these secrets under penalty of death. The execution of the penalty is represented by placing the right thumb under the left ear, drawing the thumb quickly across the throat to the right ear, and dropping the hand to the side. All of us who've been through the temple have sworn solemn oaths,
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consenting to having our throat slit and our
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heart and our vitals throat torn out. The execution of the penalty is represented by drawing the thumb quickly across the body and dropping the hands to the side. In the Mormon temple marriage,
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the partners are sealed to each other for time and all eternity in mason like rituals. And without this ceremony, no one can enter the presence of Joseph Smith and become a god.
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They lay heir. Brother Pratt, having authority, I wash your preparatory receiving your anointings for and in behalf of John Kimball, who is dead, that you may become clean from the blood and sins of this generation.
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Mister Bradford, I wash your preparatory to you receiving your anointings for and behalf of Eliza Barrett. Eliza Barrett, who is dead, that you may become clean from the blood and sins of this generation.
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I wash your head that your brain and intellect may become clear and active.
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Your eyes that you may see clearly and discern between truth and error. Thousands of occultic ceremonies each day are performed for the dead,
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so that they too can receive the benefits of Mormonism. Mormons are encouraged to have encounters with the dead, and it's not uncommon for demons impersonating the dead to appear to mormons stating that they've been converted to the Mormon church in the spirit world
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and now want their family history traced. Your loins, that you may be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth, that you may have joy in your posterity.
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Your vitals and bowels, that they may be strong and healthy and perform their proper function.
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Your breast that it may be the receptacle of pure and virtuous principles.
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Okay. So Wow. We'll unpack that little piece. Of course, that is just a snippet. There is it's a 2 hour long ceremony with creation story and freemasonry stuff, but Mhmm. They don't grab your they don't grab your boob. They don't touch you in a sexual way. I like to make sure people know this. You are naked. You are naked underneath that little poncho thing. But they changed it because enough people complained. And I understand because I was naked under mine. It was very it's it's open like a poncho, you know, you're just exposed. But you are alone with just swimming or just men, and it's done kind of in a private area at that part. And then it goes forward and the penalties for death have been taken out because I truly believe it was because of a certain case here.
This book under the banner of heaven is also a movie now on Hulu, a miniseries. And it is really good, but I will say there are parts of it that are lies because I've spoken to the surviving husband of the murder victim. And his brothers got really into, the old teachings of Joseph Smith, and they went and blood atoned and slit the throat of his wife. And then it was changed the next year. So no, I do not believe that was an accident. I think they had a horrible PR problem. Blood atonement was part of the Mormon church and still is in the FLDS, which is the polygamy groups. Because they just make it look like an accident,
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basically. And it's really fascinating that when you're looking to, masonic rights, There are some some rumors that they also have, like, if you are willing to talk or whatever outside of the, society Yes. You're gonna be killed and stuff like that. And all They are the same. They are the same. Exactly.
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And I have spoken to many Masons, upwards of 32nd degree Masons. And they concur that this was done. But I will tell you, they took out their death oaths. Now here's an interesting thing. The Mormons took theirs out, and then the masons followed. Isn't that interesting? Why would the masons follow a church? Right. Right. Very interesting. I I don't know who's running who. Yeah. How many years are there,
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are the interference of the the freemasons and the, the Mormons
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when it comes to states? There are a lot of similarities, and there is similarities in the outfits. This is a one breasted robe. It's it's blending into their white t shirt, but you can see it's a one breasted robe. It is a green apron. The apron is similar. The women actually shield their faces back in the past, but they do not anymore. So that is updated. I like to be as fair as I can be about all of this stuff. But this regalia is very similar of the OTO and of the Masons. And and here's the thing, you know, and the women can be Masons. Remember how I said to you, why would Lucy Mac Smith be doing masonic things? Because Martinists allow women.
They always have. It's a coed. It's coed masonry. And Mormons are coed as well. So it's very interesting to me that all of that is accepted, and we do the same signs and tokens. These signs and tokens that I'm showing you, you have to know these to get past the handshakes, the secret handshakes. We have very similar ones, to masonry. You have to know them to get past the angels and sentinels to get to heaven, to the top heaven. They believe in 3. So, you know, all of this is done. And like I said before, works works works works works. Right? This is works. This is actually a real temple ceremony. Somebody snuck in and and got this on Google Glasses called new name Noah. Shout out new name Noah. He got in deep shit for it, but way to go. And I like to point out something.
When we're gonna talk about the OTO in just one second. Mhmm. And it's gonna be brief. But I want to remind people that it is newer than Mormonism. So Joseph Smith couldn't have got this from Aleister Crowley, as you notice the typhonian hand. Right. But but you know that these gods and their symbols have been there is nothing new under the sun. This comes from Babylon. This isn't just because people will say, well, that's to you know, Crowley came later. Crowley stole everything he did. Everything he did. Just like Hitler.
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Yes. Exactly. A lot a lot of people still think fast and say that there's a new thing. The thing is, is this something like and, Heidi, please please clear me up. Is this something like that some people think really that it's a nice and cool religion? But once they get in, they never ever gonna get out. Like, if you are in a 1% Michael Gang, let's say.
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Yeah. My grandpa. Yeah. Well, I mean, like I said, it's very difficult to leave. They do give you the chance even in the Mormon Temple ceremony to leave, but, like, your whole family is there, ma'am. Like, your whole family is there, and you're just and then and then if you do leave, I lost all of my extended family. They think I'm a heretic, you know. So you have to understand it comes at a price. Like I only have my mom and my dad, and he passed, and my brother, and he passed. So I have very few people. And even my husband's family that I would say, they tolerate me because they're all active LDS. You know, we are neither one of us want anything to do with this, you know. But he, again, is forgiven because he knows not what he does. He never made it the whole way. Whereas I did, and he accidentally let that cat out of the bag once. And ever since, it's been very difficult for me. Wow. So And you were living in, like, deep part of America.
Yes. Mormonism is is is still, like, a big thing, right, in Utah? Yes. Utah is, I would say they say it's half and half now, but come on. It's not. The Mormonism runs the state, you know, this state. And and the things that they don't know, these patronage people do not they do not understand. They are being hoodwinked, if I can use the best word. And and and they're doing this to such a degree that that they're, 1% people that run this state that do know they're harnessing it. I promise you. This is called the beehive state. They, talk about this being the land of milk and honey. They talk about, you know, being all all about the bees. That goes back to goddess worship too. Like, none of this stuff none of this stuff makes sense in a Christian denomination.
And so when when you're in there, and you're doing all this, you know, you wear these green aprons and they represent fig leaves. Okay? Well, there's a part in the ceremony where you get the apron and it's sitting by you, and and Satan comes. Satan's in the movie because Satan is, Lucifer is Jesus's brother according to the Mormons. Mhmm. Also, Jesus was born just like any other man, so they actually had sex to create him. They don't believe that that he was benevolent, but that, like, literally Mary got it on with, you know, and did the deed. And so very interesting, but they do believe in a mother in heaven, and they speak of mother in heaven. And I I'm having a new show come out with, Ed Mabry speaking all about just who is mother in heaven, because they say she's so holy they won't say her name. Well, that's really convenient when you're trying to hide things. Right? It's a very patriarchal order. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But when you get to the top, when you get to the tippy tippy top, and you get something called the second anointing.
The last part of the second anointing. A woman cannot hold the priesthood until she gets the second anointing. And once she gets the second anointing to seal the second anointing, you have to go home, not in the temple, to your marital bedroom sex magic all over the place in that you you know. Places have energy just like we said. So in your marital bedroom and she lays hands on your head instead of the other way around and seals that blessing. At the top of this whole thing, I truly believe they oppress women to then later harness the women that transform into goddesses in their in their eyes. Because it says, you will become gods and goddesses, priests and priestesses.
And that your place is made sure, and that you will now be going to heaven no matter what you do. No matter what you do, except murder. You can't murder. Well, at these top levels, once these people get this information, some of them go crazy. Like that guy I just told you that cut his sister in law's head off. Like, some of these people mentally are not prepared for the things because they are not doing what what normal magic practitioners do, which is step by step. There's a reason why these things. You know? You don't just throw somebody at the top. And But but it's it's something that comes up when you're thinking about secret societies,
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like criminal organized crime. And not not to be be be, offended against people, but there are some organizations that, have some rituals that you do not know when you enter them. Like, for example, like the 1 percenter, if you are with with some kind of group, you have to do some really shitty things to get in it and to be on it. Right? And if you wanna step out, there's no fucking way to gonna step out. You They kill you. They kill you. You. Yes. That's the other thing. My uncle my uncle tried to leave the Sundowners,
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and they one time found him. He had to flee for his life. They one time found him and tattooed him out because he did hold a really high position that they didn't kill him. But but I will tell you, he did not live long, very long after that. And, I'm just telling you guys, like, this kind of stuff, you don't understand it. You know not what you do. And I know what is happening here, because I've studied it. And I didn't even know anything. But these nice grandmas and grandpas are there in the temple, and here comes Satan and he says and Adam looks up and says, what is that? And he points to his apron which used to be a very masonic apron with, all, like, all the symbols on it. The all sing I and all the things. But they changed it because there was so much lapping their mouth about it to just a black one. And he answers and says this, this is a sign of my powers and priesthoods.
And then he says to Adam, you need one too. You should make one of fig leaves. And then everyone stands, they say, please stand and put on your apron. Why are we doing something the devil commands in the middle of a a god fearing place? In the middle of a god centered place? I'm not I'm not saying people can't do what they want. Even if you do get lied to, like you said about the 1 percenters, or like in the mob, You know deep you kind of know though that you're gonna have some price to pay, but you just don't know what. But even freemasonry, they, like, lied to you, but then but you kinda know that. That's why there's so many stories about being hoodwinked or whatever. Yes. So All it takes to
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all of these Yeah. Big organizations where you think that's something like secret society stuff, even CIA or whatever. I don't think you wanna get out if you want when you're in. Maybe you are getting in with the right purposes. Like, I wanna help people across the world and stuff like that. But once you're in, you're just basically screwed. You can't.
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And and on top of it, you are doing things that you don't understand. And that is huge, you know. You don't know who you're paying homage to. And again, to my point. Okay. We've got these mirrors in the temple, and they are called forever mirrors. And if you know anything about mirror magic, which by the way, Zachary King, he was an egg satanic wizard, told me in our interview together, the first magic I ever did was with Amir playing Bloody Mary. So you guys it's not just, kitty stuff basically. It's not. And this looks like a portal because they face the mirrors.
See how it goes on forever? Yeah. And they they do this on purpose. See how they're, facing one another, which is powerful. And, you know, people talk about this even in the in the medieval times, like covering mirrors, not facing them this way, you know, about them being portals. And you saw how it goes forever. Will you kneel over this altar, which God knows what's in it? Like, I don't even you know, the brother that died and they dug him up, well, what what do you think they did with the bones? Same thing with the other Joseph Smith and his brother, like, you know, the the current prophet is a bonesman. Like, I don't think that that their bones are where they say they are, in my opinion.
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And the same with the mirror thing with with the with the magic, like, candles and mirrors.
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Mhmm. Yes.
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And and mirrors can trap souls also. But, also That's right. Mortal to another dimension. People don't do not oh, it's just a mirror. Oh, fuck. No. Well No. No. There's a reason why they wanna hang it in every single house. Think about that. Getting married. You're getting married this day, supposedly
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being a virgin. Right? You haven't had sex because you're you're you're qualified to go in here. You have to be qualified to go in here. That you've done, you know, good things and haven't been having sex and all this stuff. So again, they know what's gonna happen that night when you go home because you're getting married. You're gonna make sex magic and you don't even know what you're doing. Like, you really don't. And they tell you to look into these mirrors and promise that you'll be married for time and all eternity. And so I just think that there's a lot going on there. Especially when you take into place, you know, you're not getting married in a tuxedo and, your wedding dress. You're getting married in that stuff I showed you with the green apron.
Yeah. And then you've got these on. You've got your magical underwear on. It's not like sexy shit. It's like No. No. It's not. No. It's a boxer shorts and a t shirt, and it's it's but it's got symbols, and here's something I think that is strange. It has the symbols, the square compass and ruler over things that have openings. Your nipples have openings. Your belly button has an opening. Now there isn't yes. And there isn't one in the crotch, so they say, but there's tons of seams, you know, all these seams in the panty area. If I zoom it in, you'll see like, look at all the seams. You could easily put a mark in there that nobody knew. Nobody.
[01:42:12] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. Why would you do that? And of Well It's like a it's like a talk. You know? If if you go in boxing, like, to protect your your your,
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your balls and stuff like that. Yeah. Yep. And they could easily slip it in in just like one of those tiny, portions where it comes together. The other seam I find very interesting is on the right knee. Well, they say it's because every knee shall bow for Jesus and God. But here's the thing, if you know anything about slavery and Egypt, what do they say? The slave will serve, and they bow. What about this whole take any shit for the NFL? You guys gotta be more paying attention to the things that they make us do. Because every yeah. Right. We're goyim. Do not forget that they they care less about us than bugs. I mean, literally. And so when you're talking about this, you know, it makes you wonder, are you channeling things and pledging to serve at the same time?
This is
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yeah. This is the They they perverted this so much that you don't even think about it. Pop music, pop culture, they do it nowadays. Every single thing that they do nowadays, it has a purpose to,
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us The changing of the megahertz. The changing of the Yes. The megahertz.
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432 to, 420. What is it? Purple, was in the in the early days, it was royal. But nowadays, if you go to a to a to a concert, it's black and red. Well Mhmm. What do you think that these colors are? It's not like the bright star. No. No. It's it's all, like, demonic kind of stuff. Yeah. It's dark. Even if you don't believe in
[01:44:03] Unknown:
God or or, Satan, you there's some part of people that have to believe in light and dark. And so when you're talking about that, like, there is not all these hoops to jump through for regular people. Like, come on. This is a lot. You know? This is like I mean, down to your damn underwear, people. This is a lot. And so they did don't wear any. There you go. Yeah. But they don't have any weird marks on them. I'm sure of that. And, you know, who knows what they're doing to them before they get to you? Are they praying over them? Are they doing some weird sigil? Who even knows? We don't know. We just know that they come do not realize that I was having a a, podcast with Joost, a Dutch guy about the light and the dark side. He was in both cults.
[01:44:53] Unknown:
People can give you, like, a lighter, but they they they had, like, magic over it. They put some intentions in this lighter or whatever Right. They're gonna give you. That's right. Never ever Coin. Yes. Coin. Exactly. Got goosebumps again. Thank you. Yes. Yes. It's crazy. Oh, this is so deep.
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They did update them for the first time ever and made them sleeveless. See how it's more of a a sleeveless than the cap sleeve, which is nice. But also women were having problems because you have to understand about these garments. You never take them off except they have to touch your bare skin. You have many pairs of them just like you do underwear. Like many many many pairs. So you take them off to change them out, like for the next day to shower, to go to the gym. They have allowed to go to the gym because you get very hot. And to make more Mormons. Right? To make more Mormons and bathe. So the thing is though, they have to come right back on. You have to put the right leg in first, the right arm in first. There's a certain way to take them off. And back when my grandma was young, they kept one leg in while they were in the tub and would just have the sopping wet garment on the floor. And you don't wash them with other clothes.
These are holy, and they have to touch your skin, and your bra goes over the top. If you wanna wear underwear, it has to go over the top. Like, you cannot yeah. You can't just, willy nilly be treating these like nothing. So why is that so important? It goes back to the fact that I wonder, are you carrying something with you? They say it's to guard you, to protect you, that it's a holy, you know, protection. Let's see. Fabric. What's it made of? Like cotton? Or There's many, many, many fabrics you can do. Most people don't do cotton anymore because it's so hot, but there's, like, spandexy type stuff now. They've upgraded them very much. Okay. And polyblend and nylon blend and So they've got I'm asking that because
[01:47:02] Unknown:
I I know a lot of unknown, not a lot of fabrics, but I know that a wool linen, and cotton have a very high frequency. But they they, frequent each other out when you are wearing, like, for for a girl, for example. Right. A skirt from from Leinen, and you have a a wooden sweater, it's gonna be 0. It's gonna be But these are often,
[01:47:30] Unknown:
mixed now with Lycra, which also has, like, the same correspondence on electricity as a dead person, and nylon, and and these all artificial fabrics because nobody wears the cotton ones anymore because they're hot. And they used to make a collie cotton poly blend. So they're always some kind of blend. And so I do wonder about the frequency of these. This is, an interesting picture. And I have to re I guess retract some things I've said in the past before. But this is one of the prophets of the church, Thomas S. Monson and baby Bush, and they're doing a secret handshake. And I used to think it was free masonic, but I I did talk to a mason, the other day. And he said, it's not close enough. So I started researching. This is actually a secret society handshake.
This is either for fraternities, certain secret societies. So it could be even deeper than that because we all know all the bushes are in Skull and Bones. All of them. Yeah. They're bonesmen. Yeah. I don't know if Thomas s Swanson was, and I have to try and find out. But it's interesting. Nonetheless, this is not a natural handshake.
[01:48:43] Unknown:
I mean, come on. They're talking. The way you look to each other, it seems like they they know some secrets from each other.
[01:48:51] Unknown:
Yes. And this is again the current prophet, and he is holding the keys to the kingdom. And it is literally the keys to the kingdom in apostle Peter's hand. This is in Rome. This is in Rome, Italy when they did the temple there. And I'll tell you what, they kept that on a hush because this has been done for I gotta put a picture of it. It's been done for years, and nobody said a damn word Wow. About I saw that directly when I saw the picture. First of all, this guy, this chap looks really good for 100 year old guy. Oh, for sure. But, also, he's doing a weird masonic grip on that key. Look at that closely. Yes. Yes. Mhmm. It's like harassing something that normally is a little bit more down button. Yep. Yep. He's pinching it in a specific way. Yeah. And I dare I dare say that I recognize that pretty quickly.
Now this is my favorite one to show, especially to someone like you that has some knowledge. So this sign here, the star at the bottom where it says Melchizedek priesthood, that is the high priesthood of the Mormon church. There is the Aaronic priesthood, and then there is the Melchizedek priesthood. And then men only can hold them. Only the men, until the women get the second anointing. But anyways, this is on the temple. As you can see it's specifically on the temple. Well, this is literally the mammon sigil or mammon. The yeah. In the later lesser and greater keys of Solomon.
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And I'll also see the star Identical.
[01:50:27] Unknown:
Yes. It's identical. It's the exact same one. And they can't put this symbol in there, obviously, because then people would like know it's something's up. Right? But why would you make something that is representing the God of money, right, as your priesthood most holy holy thing. Now that money has nothing to do with God. K. Actually, it's an abomination. It's abomination. So why would they do that? Well, they are one of the richest churches. I think they did that very purposely. And people just don't know what they're doing. We get back to that again.
[01:51:08] Unknown:
Can you go one slide back, please? Uh-huh. Yep. Because what I figured out, if you see the, the triangle, on the mammon sigil, the upside down triangle is, the opposite of fire, which is water. So it's currency.
[01:51:26] Unknown:
Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. So And it does not it does not surprise me. And, also, remember what I said about having the circle around? That means they're controlling the demon, or the god, or angel, whatever. But they don't have the circle. Right? There is no circle, which means what? They're working directly with this spirit. We'll just call it spirit.
[01:51:51] Unknown:
And Oh, that makes also much sense.
[01:51:54] Unknown:
Yes. And, also, for them to hide it in plain sight, I bet that that this gives them so much you know, they're probably just laughing their asses off. I mean Yes. And they hate it when they're listening to us talking about it and figuring things out. Yes. That's right. And then I get called out and called all kinds of names, but I don't really care because I'm I'm a bringer of truth, and that truth to me does not matter what religion you are. You deserve to know the truth that are out there that are older than religion. Some of these things are older.
[01:52:29] Unknown:
And I like to say with with my podcast, I like to bring up some subjects that you maybe think about and maybe you dive into and make your own plausible truth. Yes. Yes. And that's so important in this world. You know? Yes. A lot of people that are looking or or listening to some shit, they can't back it off. Although there are so much, things been that you can write or that you can read, that you can look at. But Mhmm. You know, people don't do that. People are people are lazy. But in the mean For sure. Meanwhile, they're just been, you know
[01:53:10] Unknown:
Well, they want you busy. What it is is and you know what? There's no one busier than a Mormon. Let me tell you what. You got 6 kids. You're everybody has 6 kids. They really recommend having children. And what does that go back to? Again, you're paying homage every time you have childbirth to that mother in heaven. I bet a1000000 on it. But here's the thing, they also are super obsessed with certain things like genealogy. And Mhmm. All of our genealogy to these, 23andme and ancestry.com things started actually from another company.
It is a company well, a website, but it comes from the Mormon church. They started this first. Yes. And and this dumps into their website, dumps into these websites, and the way they get away with it is they say, we don't own that. What are you talking about? We own familysearch.org. We didn't do that. We what? We we're innocent in the corner. Okay. Well, you're giving all your records to everybody else, and they have many, many records. But I always am watching for certain things, and you know how your phone algorithm knows. So the day p Diddy got arrested, this popped up on my phone. And I took a screenshot of it. And it says, Anne Warchiki of 23 and me, all of her board, every single person on the board resigned on the day p Diddy got arrested.
[01:54:39] Unknown:
Oh, shit.
[01:54:41] Unknown:
So I was like, who's this lady? Like, who's this Anne Warchicki? And her her history is very interesting, but her sister is even more interesting because her sister was the CEO of YouTube until her untimely death the month before of a sudden rapid cancer, and she was only 50 something. Oh. And and her son committed suicide right before that. So whenever you have a trail of death, you should probably follow it. You know, it's interesting to me that it just happened to happen. People are like, well, it's just a coincidence because she was, gonna go under, and it was gonna go bankrupt. And I'm like, uh-huh. Oh. Oh,
[01:55:21] Unknown:
nothing is coincidence. It's actually not at these higher ranks.
[01:55:26] Unknown:
I do a whole episode. Well, I did one on p Diddy and the connections that I found. And funny enough, wouldn't you know it, all of them were connected. Big, big actors like ash Ashton Kutcher and different things. They were all involved in save the children type things, but they all included genealogy. And and, like, uploading your kids' DNA and all these weird things. And I'm just, like, I don't buy it, guys. Like,
[01:55:52] Unknown:
I I I'm sorry. There there's fucker fuckery about. Right? Yes. I when you when you go back to his slides with the schedule, you see the the the the symbol of yes. In the middle, you see the symbol of Venus or the symbol of, vagina also.
[01:56:08] Unknown:
Once again, paying homage to what? The thing that they hide. The hidden secret is Yeah. Is that this all goes back to more of a womanly goddess worship than it really does about men. Not that they don't include it, and if you've ever met a Mormon guy or a Mormon high up person, they teach them some things that are interesting. Go watch a little tiny clip of Mormon LDS conference. You'll hear they they talk like women. They talk in a sing song voice. It's almost mesmerizing. It's like and it's very effeminate. And it used to bother me so much when I was a kid. I just think I've always been a little bit different because of my family and the bikers and stuff. I was always like, this is weird. I don't like this. This is feminine. You know? I don't like it. Like, I date guys that are very like, my husband now. He he works in a mine. You know, like, hardcore guys, you know. And, you know, I just don't like stuff like that, basically, because it it's pushed on you from your youth. It's this way, like a doctor, like a lawyer, like, they they're very, professionally almost effeminate sometimes. Not all of them, but, many. And and it's very strange. But I, again, go back to the goddess worship on a lot of that because why? They hold the priesthood. Well, what did Asherah surround herself with?
Men. Castrated men.
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Castrated men. Mhmm. So not like, which was the the the the old lady? Come on. Oh.
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Many of the women had their, their people and queens. They always were these castrated men that formed their courts. Why weren't they just women? Why weren't they just women? You know? Makes you wonder. Who's pulling energy from who as well? Exactly. So this is where all of those records that I told you about just a minute ago are stored in Utah. This is called the granite genealogical vaults. They literally blew out the side of a mountain to put their stuff in there, and this is like Fort Knox. You there's one road in, one road out. It's very small. It you cannot get to it. There's razor wire everywhere. It is protected like Fort Knox, and I'm not they literally blew a hole in a mountain to do this. And they're they look at the side of the mountain.
[01:58:44] Unknown:
Holy shit.
[01:58:45] Unknown:
Yeah. And they say that there's over 3,000,000,000 with a b, genealogical records in there. And it isn't just of Mormons, you guys. Anybody that they put in their little baptism font, like Hitler and the Jews that I told you about and all these people, they're in there too. And people say what store that? Well, they have the deets on everybody. Why would they store that? So we get into some weird questions. Right? Like Wow.
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Mormons. 35. Trust you. They
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They believe in, living forever. Now I will say this association is not directly related with the LDS church. However, they the ideas come from them. Really, they say what? Eternal life. You will be married for eternity, you will become a god, blah blah blah blah blah. Right? So this again is one hallway, just one tiny hallway in their giant freaking granite thing in the side of the mountain. Holy shit. Yeah. This gets crazy. Look at how they're shaped like, a letter box. They're not big like a file box. They're small like a letter, like an envelope.
And when I look at these, I often wonder because in 1962, something started in America that they started requiring something called a PKU test. I gotta add a slide for this. But the PKU test, curiously enough, is a blood test that every baby has to have that's born in a hospital period. Anywhere in America or even if it's accidentally born at home, their first baby visit, they're gonna get this done. And this is supposedly to test for a milk allergy. And so all of this work for this milk allergy, okay, that can make people handicapped. Cool. I'm saying that the stats on the PKU business are very small. There is not that many people that actually had this disease for them to go to this length.
Right? This is a very big length of testing every human being period. And I'll tell you what they do. About the size of a dime, there is 5 little bubbles on this card and they prick your heel, and then they fill those bubbles up and they send them off to, I don't know where, to the government. They have litmus paper and they have it bleeds through to multiple copies of this. I believe a total of 3 copies of this. Why would you need so many, first of all? 2nd of all, it is a perfect medium to store that blood forever forever.
And why is this box shaped identically to it? I mean, like a letter. It's very curious to me, and I'm not saying that it is or is not. I just find it curious. And I do think that with their their ancestry stuff, with their genealogical stuff, with everything that I've told you, I just, also with all of like, here from my house in Northern Utah, I have within 40 mile radius of me, the supercomputer storage that that all everything downloads to all information that goes in any computers downloads up here. I have a CIA building. I have a FBI building. That building, the supercomputer building that stores all the files, that's the FBI one. There's another FBI recruitment one. And then we have the IRS, the NSA, and an air force base.
[02:02:23] Unknown:
Wow. You need a big magnet. Yeah. Computers can figure out what magnets. They they they go blind. They go off. But the thing is odd. If you look at the the transhumanism agenda of, Klaus Schwab and his and his criminal friends Yes. They want, like, a population of 500,000,000 people. That's what they say. So what if they store, like, data as they do now? And and let like, picking out the cherries of the best humans with the genes, and maybe eventually can make new humans. Like, oh, we have Adolf Hitler's. Oh, yeah. There you got it. Oh, well Don't forget. Don't forget that they were very racist
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until 1978. Black people could not go to heaven according to the Mormon church, that they would always be a slave and a servant to the white man. Do not forget that they also believed all brown people also had a curse. They also are not, well, there's actual. I'm doing a little deep dive on Hitler right now. And Hitler once said, let me find it. How much he loved Mormons because he loved the way that they were picking through their lineage, basically. Because they kept it so white and delights them. Mhmm.
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And we see now a picture of Lorenzo Snow with which was the 5th president of the LDS church. And he quotes, as humanity now is, god once was. As god now is, humanity may become. Well, that that suits perfectly in that what I said just before what Yep. Trying to do.
[02:04:14] Unknown:
Absolutely. So don't forget that also Joseph Smith once claimed that he was related to Jesus Christ himself, which means there's a bloodline if he thinks that. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that has been speculated often. Right? Like by multiple people about the bloodline of Jesus, and that he possibly had a family. But he does say this, God was once as we are now, and is now an exalted person, who sits enthroned in yonder heavens. And that is the great secret. And he died shortly after this sermon. Wow. So, you know, do I think it was, you know, just by chance? I mean, he was letting a lot of cats out of the bag. Right? He wasn't exactly, keeping things to himself.
[02:05:00] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Could like back and, the pentagram and stuff like that.
[02:05:05] Unknown:
Exactly. And what did they tell Mormons all to breed a whole bunch of kids, but yet they used to have a one drop rule that if you even had one drop of black person's blood in you, you could not go to heaven. So I'm just saying, of course, Hitler loved the Mormons. Yeah. They have the same agenda. So it does worry me, like you said, about picking creams of the crop. If you come to Utah, you will see more redheads and blond headed people than anywhere you probably ever seen.
[02:05:34] Unknown:
Oh, wow. I would think that would be Welsh.
[02:05:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. And there is some darker people, but, yeah, these are very fair. I'm like a very white, skinned person. Like, very fair people, a lot of green eyes, a lot of blue eyes, a lot of really light people. You know? And I find that interesting. We have a ton of redheads here. I I find that interesting. Like, we just have a different community.
[02:06:02] Unknown:
And, you know, people say, well, that's inbreeding and polygamy. Okay. No. I think the redheads, for me as a European guy, redhead redheads like Ireland, Welsh, which is well, not collected. Ireland is a is a is a is an island itself. But, of course, you got Welsh and you got, Britain. Yes. When you go back, like, I think it's in the Da Vinci Code. They track down, like, Jesus had ancestors because he may love people. And there's a sister Mary, which is one of the bloodlines traced back to England.
[02:06:39] Unknown:
Now he had many come. Yes. Many people that came here including my family members were of multiple of those dissents. Both English, French, a little bit of French, a little bit of German, a little bit of everything. Right? These are people that came from these places including Welsh. And Welsh was one of the biggest ones. And so he this is a direct quote from Adolf Hitler. The Mormon is the highest of the Ubermensch. For their religion is against I can't say that word. It would make Europe basically mixing blood. It would make Europe a continent full of your of Mormons. I most certainly would if I could, Adolf Hitler.
[02:07:23] Unknown:
Wow.
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So when you're talking about this, and there is a book out about this called Moroni and the Swastika. And, there are multiple prophets and presidents of the church that actually supported Hitler. In fact, after the world war was over, one of the main people that sent help over to Germany or the Germans was the LDS church. So Wow. I don't put it past them to be creating and excluding certain blood bloodlines. Why do they need all that genealogy? You're right.
[02:08:00] Unknown:
Why indeed? Yeah. And they were creating the Romansh. You know? Yes. If we have to, believe history because that's also a part of me nowadays that that is very skeptic about what what they say and what's the truth. But as as as I have ancestors from Germany, Right. Country, White Rail. There's some some things that I really can relate to. Like, if you have, like, an a good ideology, not not with killing other people, but with, like Mhmm. What they do now with the transhumanism agenda 2045. There you got 45 again. It it was 100 years ago when there was World War 2 about transhumanism of the Ubermensch.
Wake the fuck up, people. I mean, I'm just a, a country boy from the Netherlands, from Europe, and I can fix these points just like that together. Why can't we all do that? But the thing
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is we are
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so so, Halo basically tried to make an areas Aryan race, which is very strong and and wouldn't be, let's say, polluted by other races or other, diseases and stuff like that. That that's what Klaus Schwab wants to do. He could be his his grandfather.
[02:09:29] Unknown:
He could be an SS guy. Just be all I think he is. Here's my question to you. Like, what if it isn't about people being white? What if that was just about one thing? And I'll tell you what I think it is, is what about the fact that they may have figured out what the Nephilim, their bloodline was? Because the Nephilim, if you remember in the bible when Noah was born, they were scared of Noah because he was utterly white. And they said we think he's a fallen angel. And they were scared of him because he was exceedingly pale and exceedingly white.
And they were worried about this. Now the original man, Adam, okay? Adam means ready of the the dirt. Okay? And ready of the color. Yes. And it's a color, and it and it isn't pale or white. What if and this is just a conjecture. The wiping out of brown people, and it is an utter, like, you can go anywhere. They get here, it's native Americans. Wipe out the native Americans. They get here, it see slavery, wipe out the black people. They get here I mean, they're constantly, you know, sacrificing these people even in my end days. Like like, find the whitest one that was the better one. Right? Like, all these things before the white man even showed up on the scene. So why was that? Maybe they saw something that was speaking to them like these native American tribes that say these indigo children are made by what? A god coming down and sleeping with these virgin girls and making these babies.
So what if it is a gene that they have isolated? And guess what else I found when I was researching some things and this conjectured bloodline of the Nephilim. They have the actual DNA code they say, And one of the the traits for that is exceedingly pale, exceedingly light. Also the fact that they can tolerate milk for all of their life. They are never lactose intolerant. Now what was the test I just told you about? It had to do with milk. Now what if they're trying to procure that because Hitler was not just looking for whiteness, he was measuring people's canine teeth.
Why do you have canines and some people don't? Well, at what point did carnivores come into our bloodline and make some of us have more prominent carnivore features. Right? The original man didn't need that. He was eating, you know, vegetables in the Garden of Eden. He didn't need those. So they they were doing a lot of things that don't make any sense as far as, like, just race alone. Like, not just white, black, brown. It didn't make any sense. Why teeth? Why this? Why that? But here they are. I definitely wonder if they knew about, you know, what that race was, and are they doing that now? Like think of test 2 babies. Think of all kinds of things. And I do a whole presentation on this, and and how I feel the brave new world of America was infiltrated at that time, because they were ordering babies through the mail. And also, we had a ton of kids here that we didn't know what the hell to do with them all. Right. And putting them the orphan trains and the babies that doctor Cooney and the the little preemie babies and the incubator babies. Yes. This is a cure curious thing. Why save these babies if we have so many kids that we can't we don't even know what to do with them. They're going to work at 5, and they're all out in the streets. Why would you save babies that would naturally pass away on their own?
Why do we have things like Tulum and and finding in, you know, these Catholic places, 100 upwards of 800 infant babies, and people are like, well, that was from the women and they just aborted them or whatever. No. A woman can only have one baby a year. 1. Maybe I mean, twins or triplets, but come on. Like, it's rare. And back then, even more rare. My conjecture is what if the reason why we know so much about test tube babies and know so much about all of this stuff, and actually, it's been nothing new under the sun. Look up Diana of Ephesus. They've known about this stuff for a long time. Oh, it's Impure. Yeah. Indy will tell you that they figured this out long ago.
But what if these were, you know, the mistakes? Like, why did we used to have so many deformed people in the world and now we don't? Vitamins? Okay. Well, our food is lacking nutrition. Our food is lacking everything nowadays. They at least have that. But, like, they'll say diseases, they'll say this, they'll say that. But, like, honestly, when you look at it, we're bigger, we're taller, we're, you know and America specifically gets hit with certain things that everybody else kinda doesn't. Like, certain diseases, like, that they, you know, it makes you wonder. It really does when you step back away from it and you go,
[02:14:47] Unknown:
like, what if? I'm just saying it's just Right. Off. So it could be fabricated, but it could also be, like, if you have too many rabbits in a forest, you're gonna have mixed doses. So like a disease. Right? So I think that we are very capable of of, ruining our own lives with the stuff that we're doing. Because just like you pointed out, the food is poison, that the air is poison, the water is poison. If you're living in a city, you're fucked. No matter what happens, if you are in the city, you're fucked. You can go out. When shit hits the fan, look at all the disasters. If it's gonna be tsunami, if it's gonna be a power, outlet, whatever the fuck it is. If you are in a city, you are screwed.
[02:15:36] Unknown:
Yeah. And and it makes you wonder, like, are they meddling with genetics? Are they isolating things like when they sent all these certain people to America for their religious freedom? Did they hand select these people and make sure and of course, you can't say, well, no to the Italian guy down the road, because it looks sketchy. Right? Let looks bad. So but you would know where they are if you're the freemason guy that ran the orphan trains, which he was by the way. And I'm like, you know, it's very curious to me all of these children.
Like, where the hell are they all coming from? Where they need to be? Something in me. You just trigger something. Like,
[02:16:22] Unknown:
10, 15 years ago, if I was walking down the street, I could probably a little bit figure out what I am walking upon, what what country, what the people look like. Mhmm. Then all of a sudden, when I walk down the streets, now they're just like, where the fuck do these people come from? How do they react? How are they not humans in my perspective? Not not that I'm a different human, but they they it's like there are too many people that are not in this in the good spot of of the city. Right. You know what I'm trying to say here?
[02:17:05] Unknown:
Like, NPCs in a game. You know? Like, these people Yes. Yeah. These people But he but he accidentally
[02:17:12] Unknown:
hit the enter button too much time. Like Mhmm. In the early days, it was maybe 1 or 2 people on the train that like, oh, they're they're they're not these nonplaying characters. But nowadays, you're just like, oh, shit. Somebody fucked it up.
[02:17:28] Unknown:
Yep. And maybe that was what 2020 was all about. Like, maybe that was a big, you know, calling calling of of people for a specific reason. You know? And they had to make all the antennas to,
[02:17:43] Unknown:
this is just just conspiracy Ramble thought. You know? They had to make all these antennas in 2020 when when when shit hit the fan 2020. Because, otherwise, they they what they did is with some people, they're just like, drop dead in the street. Yeah. Probably they were out of reach of their battery and their whatever.
[02:18:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Well and it's very it's very concerning if you look at the, proportions of people that got hit with with 2020 difficulty is they were a lot of brown people and a lot of black people were hit with it extra hard. And even Bill Gates' wife, when she came out with the whole cure for it, she was so creepy when she said, and give it to the black people first because they deserve it the most. And the way she said it, though, was weird. It was like, they deserve it. Like, it wasn't like, they deserve it. You know? They're better. No. It was weird. There wasn't a
[02:18:42] Unknown:
Hillary's skeleton. I mean, Hillary Clinton.
[02:18:45] Unknown:
Right. No. It was Bill Gates' life, and it was scary. And I I've I'm just saying, like, this all this stuff, like, makes you wonder certain things. Like, you know, is there not enough people awake because they're literally programmed, or are they tainted, or were they tainted at birth? Like, who even knows? Like, who even knows? You know? And it's a scary situation, but I'll tell you. I I think someday we're gonna know. Just like the Tuskegee event sounds crazy back then, now we know. We know. And so this is kind of my last thing and the last conjecture I have on spirits in the temple. This is on the temple, and it's on many temples. But if you notice, you know, the pentagram isn't necessarily evil in it. No. But it is very nice symbol, but when it's
[02:19:29] Unknown:
upside down Mhmm. But the pentacle the pentacle
[02:19:39] Unknown:
is encased in a seal here. This is again, we're getting back to seals. So what if one is bringing things in? Remember, we talked about, you know, invoking and bringing spirits in through mirrors in different ways. Right. All these things, and one is locking them in there.
[02:20:00] Unknown:
Oh, shit.
[02:20:02] Unknown:
That makes you really question when they have been doing so much work and they push it on people. They say you should go to the temple as much as you can even multiple times a day. It takes 2 hours of time for each person. So Right. A day. Each time they go to our session. Yes. For each dead person. And so you are literally having Mormon people spend like, that are retired, like every single day there. And so I'm curious, you know, what just what if they are using all of this energy, Rab, including dead people? Like, I mean, it's concerning. You know?
[02:20:43] Unknown:
Yes. But that's the link I got directly because it's it's it's witchcraft, like the the the magic with the k. Mhmm. It's the dark side. So a bow well, he got he he or she or whatever got a lot of names, but the goat, you know, Baphomet. Mhmm. So if you Crazy. Yes. It's really crazy. And especially if you are leaving your own identity as who you are, your name as a dead person. You're gonna have a new name.
[02:21:20] Unknown:
You do have a new name as well. You do even get another new name in the temple for yourself. Exactly. That's what I'm trying to say. So you leave the dead
[02:21:28] Unknown:
entity, but you're still there as a flash and
[02:21:33] Unknown:
fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's scary because not only do you do that, as a representation of a dead person, but you also get a new name when you go through for yourself the first time. It's your heavenly name. And so, yeah, that happens too.
[02:21:50] Unknown:
Wow.
[02:21:52] Unknown:
And so, you know, all of these things, and you're never supposed to reveal that name ever until you die. And your husband doesn't ever tell you his, but you tell him yours because you are saved by your husband's priesthood. Oh. And so yeah. And and again, like I said, like, minus the patriarchal part, it doesn't bother me as much as the lies. But this whole religion is something different than what they say that it is. And when they are are trying to say this, all this, we're just like every other Christian. We believe in, you know, God the fa but we believe in 3 separate ones. But but but but it goes all the way down the line and it makes you really question things. And I'm like, you know, I I don't really care, Mormons. Like, if you want to do all these things, then come out with it with the truth. You can still keep your secrets, some secrets, and say, we are not just Christian. We actually, started out with a cultic Solomonic magic. Right? Like, at least be honest. I mean Right.
Yeah. It's just it's crappy.
[02:22:58] Unknown:
But but if if you do that, all the other religious
[02:23:03] Unknown:
with with the same thing. You know? Right. Then, you know, that's one big fuck up. And Wow. Part of it, you stepped into that fucking lie. That's that's the thing they do. Exactly. Because the Catholics too. What? What Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. They worship yeah. They worship a mother in heaven. They worship Mary. They call her the queen of heaven. Like, all these things, like you said, like, they have perverted the Bible. Yeah. And the Bible, if it wasn't really
[02:23:33] Unknown:
important, why would they give a shit? They wouldn't. Right. If if Jesus The thing is that we we we are in a group like gods on the spectrum on Telegram. We we are very special people that say that with a disability and ability. Let's Yeah. But we we are, talking a lot about this kind of stuff. And, so if you look at Abrahamic religions, we which were probably 2 1000 years ago invented by someone with an intention to write down some shit. Over more than, 125 years or longer, several authors that I would say if you looking to a movie with several directors and several screenwriters, you're gonna be seeing a very fucked up movie. Mhmm. But so we go back to Mormonism Mormonism oh, I hate that word.
You're good. Is, like, 200 years basically old.
[02:24:33] Unknown:
Mhmm. But it is a hermetic. It is hermetic. It Right. They they want to lie. And the thing about it is is even Joseph Smith has been told saying, there are people that live on the moon. And Brigham Young, his his successor said there are people that live on the sun. What what the hell are you trying to tell me it's not hermetic?
[02:24:54] Unknown:
You're full of shit. Although your hermetic laws are very fascinating. And they're not all bad, but he but that's still not Christian. Yeah. They're not but may you have someone like, like a guy like Crowley, which was like the most wicked man in the world. And I think he's very fascinating, not not because he he's like that dark, but he figured out so many things like Jesus did, like Yes. So many religions and so many belief systems. I think it's really fascinating. And I think that if you dealing into that kind of stuff and it's really interested you, that you're gonna Mhmm. You know, do some stuff about it. Well, maybe it was imparted on him just like this knowledge was imparted on Joseph by a fallen angel
[02:25:44] Unknown:
when he ran into Ewas, you know. It's very curious that later in life, he actually said that Ewas was a liar. And that he regretted writing the book of the law, which is one of his best works according to people, you know. I'm looking at the,
[02:26:00] Unknown:
the book or the cover, just on the right right side of you,
[02:26:07] Unknown:
which is a man with a beer. Is is that room? No. John Dee. John Dee. John Dee. That oh, that's John Dee? John Dee. Yes. K. The Queen's Conjurer. And there's some really good books about him. And so, also another one, by Jason Louve, l o u v e, I think. And he has a really good book too. Is it a joke? This one's also I think so. I would love to he's an occultist. He's an occultist, and he wrote the book. He's probably one of these guys from from Weevilsberg from from Hemelary. Yeah. Maybe so. But it's very interesting. And they all talk about this angel stuff, and not all angels are bad. I'm not saying that. Like, I'm not saying, like, throw the baby out with the bath water. But some of these things, they're lies. You know?
I mean, we can't know being on this earthly planet field, like, what is truth and what is not, but I do think some of this stuff was imparted like a download onto these people like Crowley, like Joseph Smith, like Mohammed. How did they get that much information? There's just no way. You know?
[02:27:09] Unknown:
That's fascinating because I was doing, a retreat or retreat in Peru just like 3 3 strongs ago as I prefer to say. And I met mother Ayahuasca. And, people would say it's a spirit. I saw some visuals. Like, not not too much. Not not like we see each other right now, but I saw some stuff that, the Shipiba, Indians draw down on on on fabrics and stuff like that. Really fascinating. You see that stuff. But you are basically connecting to, spiritual realm. And we we're thinking like, or we're now into the the second dimension. We go to the 3rd. We go to the 5th. Whatever the fuck. I think there are much, much more of them. And one should dig into with maybe some magic, black magic Mhmm. Or with some, psychedelics.
Because at that time, they had psychedelics too. Or maybe throughout prayer or meditation. You could just touch base on some of these entities that are also here, but you can't see them right now.
[02:28:25] Unknown:
Right. Well, the Jewish people actually say doctor Justin Sledge, I, went on had him on from Esoterica, the channel Esoterica, which he is a doctor of Esoterics and Esoteric study. And he literally said that the Jewish people would rather speak to a demon any day of the week. They are surrounding us if we could see that we are like, there are tons and tons and tons of them. And they said that the reason why they would rather speak to a demon is because they're somewhat controllable, whereas an angel is militant. When you're talking to an angel, if you say, okay, Gabriel, I wanna stop drinking and never drink again. And the angel will say, are you sure about that? And he'll say, yes. I wanna be sober forever. And then they put you in jail for the rest of your life. Right. But it gives you a hard time.
Yeah. And and and then you're just, you know yeah. You're sober, but now you're in prison. Like, great. Cool.
[02:29:21] Unknown:
Yeah. They Be careful. Careful. That's that's one of the things that I really learned. And a lot of our words are spells. I pronounce that a lot of times in my podcast. Be careful what you say. What you you were doing the the presentation. We we talked about it before. What they say that's good could be a a very bad intention, but you are like Lucifer. Lucifer is the line bearer. What's what's wrong with that? You never know. You never know. Know. And and and, you know, and and it it really fascinates me, and I really liked your presentation, Heidi. And I think,
[02:29:58] Unknown:
I connect a little bit more dots. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they don't call it spelling for nothing, guys. Oh, exactly.
[02:30:05] Unknown:
It's like what I say. Like, the a few of them, I wanna share with you. Like, you are not the mommy or the mom of 6 children. You are the mother. Mhmm. You're not wrapped around in, whatever in Egypt dying, stuff. There's a father, not a dad. Mhmm. I mean, these are just like stupid things that you say almost every single day. Hi, dad. How are you doing? Well, pretty dad.
[02:30:38] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:30:40] Unknown:
Like, good morning. That's why I don't like to say, I got weekdays. You know, what what did you do next week? I'm not doing next week. I'm good doing next strong motherfuckers. I don't have Stop. I have strong ends.
[02:30:54] Unknown:
Right. Right. Yep. We have to be careful. Yeah. Intention is everything. And it's a very
[02:31:00] Unknown:
interesting language because a lot of people a lot of people all over the world are pronouncing these words in the ether.
[02:31:08] Unknown:
Well, do you notice? I don't know in the Netherlands if this happened, but this happened here in America. My son started coming home as a teenager, and he's like, that's so funny. I'm dead. And I'm like, don't say that. And he's like and it it went like wildfire. Everybody says it now. If it's funny, really, really funny, like, I got you good, like, I got you. They say I'm dead, and they send a skeleton. I'm like, do not send that to me. Don't don't say that over your life. Don't pronounce death over your your life. Like, you are cursing yourself every single time you do this. You know? Not fulfilling prophecy.
Yeah. I'm like, do not say that.
[02:31:46] Unknown:
I don't like that. It may yeah. I think, Heidi, that that's something that's the program that's running in the background with the, pop culture, with all the bands that come out, with all the the solo artists, with the red and all that stuff. Look. I got purple. How? Yeah. The pronunciation street would see motherfuckers.
[02:32:06] Unknown:
Yep. The pronunciation of death over their lives is is really drastic. You know? Yeah. And I don't like that. And, mine is green. My favorite is green. Oh, good. What's it is? My mic is green. Yes. There you go.
[02:32:22] Unknown:
Heidi, I will not let you go before you're gonna ask, answer me 14 questions. I how do I do that? So That's I I think I I should 80 episodes in, and I still do not know what these are. Well, I know them, but I want to be 100% sure. Otherwise, my ADHD taking in and stuff like that. I have it too. So Okay. Good. Good. Good. Okay. And I'm gonna pronounce them in in a in a slightly different way because, otherwise, you're gonna have the the real hard ones just upfront.
[02:33:00] Unknown:
That's okay. I don't mind.
[02:33:03] Unknown:
Alright. Bring it on. Right. Are you are you ready? What's your favorite color?
[02:33:09] Unknown:
Green.
[02:33:10] Unknown:
Yes. You you pronounce that alright. What's your favorite music?
[02:33:14] Unknown:
Oh, I am a collector of musical, things. I I like everything. I like but I will say if I'm gonna listen to something, it has to have a fast tempo. Fast tempo. I don't like slow.
[02:33:27] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:33:28] Unknown:
I'm a hip I'm an old hip hop head too. So Oh, wow. Yeah.
[02:33:34] Unknown:
I think that you you said that your, your husband was a great, big fan of Queensryche?
[02:33:41] Unknown:
He loves every anything that is like any kind of metal, any kind of music. He's he's goes from Grateful Dead to, like oh, boy. He's all over the place. He goes to hair bands. Yeah. He loves the all music. I love that shit. Rush Rush is his favorite band, probably.
[02:34:01] Unknown:
Oh, we had this, this album from Rush, which oh, fuck. It's it's a story Rush. And there's a great video clip with it. And it's, sorry, snake turned how to love you, man, but I I can't. Oh, I gotta figure it out because it's really something something that Rush did. And I 100%, I got it on my favorites. So rush. Right? And then it's Yeah. Yeah. The new gold, I think it
[02:34:41] Unknown:
is. Makes sense. Makes sense. They have some good ones. I really they have some some really good music. No. Here it is. I'm all over.
[02:34:49] Unknown:
2,112. That's the album.
[02:34:53] Unknown:
Oh, 2012. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's his favorite too. I don't know how to pronounce it. Yeah. Yeah. That's his favorite also. So yep. He loves 2012.
[02:35:02] Unknown:
Okay. What's your favorite, movie or series?
[02:35:07] Unknown:
Oh, man. Movie. Like, right now because it's Christmas time. Right? The family stone. But I also really love I love all Christmas view movies in general. So I'm I'm a big Christmas movie dork.
[02:35:22] Unknown:
What's your favorite book?
[02:35:24] Unknown:
Books are let me think. Something that I actually like to read and don't have to read. The bible.
[02:35:33] Unknown:
Okay. What's your favorite, drink?
[02:35:38] Unknown:
Pepsi. I am I I've got a serious problem.
[02:35:44] Unknown:
Oh. Oh. It is to say that Pepsi drinkers do not like Coca Cola and the other way around.
[02:35:51] Unknown:
I like Coke, but I prefer Pepsi, but I limit myself to 1 a day because they're not good for you. Or, you know, they're not. Yeah. Me me me. But I will say other countries, they're way better. In Italy, the little ones, they only give you the little ones. Right. But they're so much better that that's all you really need anyway. They're great. I think they've They've favor it down to every single country. They they do less artificial
[02:36:17] Unknown:
sugars and stuff for you guys. Is is so they have regulations with with Pepsi and all that stuff? So much better. That stuff because I don't drink that stuff. The only thing when I drink when I drink Coca Cola, it will be, on the side with the, Jack Daniels because it's a Lammy from Lammy Kilmister from Motorhead. Up you are in Heaven, mister, or wherever you are. But, if you say that to me, like, I would like to have a a Coke or Pepsi. I would think about
[02:36:48] Unknown:
a line of Coke with a Pepsi. Yeah. They I mean, that that's a good one too. A good combination too. I mean, but Yeah. There you go. Oh. On the bands too since we got off track. I even though I love hip hop, like, some of my other favorites are, like, Nirvana, dirty heads. I love the dirty heads. I don't know. Dirty head. I don't know if I'm gonna find them. They're really great. Dirty heads are great. They're like a reggae rap compilation. I really like them. I go to their concerts every single year.
[02:37:16] Unknown:
So So so if you like a little bit, up volume and stuff like that, check out Yeah. I think it's really funny. The here we got it. Funny again, Rob. The, Shaolin Afronauts. Oh, okay. It's it's uptempo most of the time, and it's a really fascinating for me quite quite music. I like to listen to them. Awesome. Where are we? Okay. So what's your favorite food?
[02:37:44] Unknown:
Oh, boy. I love food. Let's see. Probably a really good pasta or soup. Like, it has to be homemade, though. It can't be Pasta. I homemade everything. So yeah. Oh,
[02:37:58] Unknown:
wow. Is is that a little bit of the Italian menu?
[02:38:03] Unknown:
No. I don't have any. I don't have any. I tell this. But I do love it. Right? Maybe that. I think it's and I love I love to have anything that's, like, from scratch. I mean, I just think cooking is kind of a lost art anymore. That's my son said to me the other day, I I'm always gonna be thankful because you taught me how to cook. And I'm like, good. 100%.
[02:38:23] Unknown:
100%. It's it's it's like just like you said, a lost art.
[02:38:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I love cooking.
[02:38:30] Unknown:
And real cooking totally like to wear the most.
[02:38:33] Unknown:
Anything that's soft. I hate scratchy, stiff, yucky feeling clothes. It has to have some kind of stretch in it or something like it. Even jeans, even the jeans, like, they have to be comfy enough. But I still like to look nice. You know? But I love the color red, and I love the color green when I'm wearing clothes just because I have green eyes. So But helps. Them 2 together is like Not together. Together. No. But I'm not your typical girl. Like, I don't like wearing you'll never see me in anything hot pink. This is about as pink as I get. Oh, wow. You look. I don't like it. Beige. Right? What's it called? Yeah. Like, a beigey pink. And then I like blues or like, most of my closet, my kids laugh and say, you look like you're from New York because it's grays and black. And I don't wanna go well, whatever.
[02:39:23] Unknown:
Okay. I got the last, well, easiest question. Then I got a few that's that's designed. So, what's your favorite holiday destination?
[02:39:34] Unknown:
Oh my gosh. Holidays, I like to be home, but I will say, like, traveling wise, I really loved when I went to Paris because I thought I would love Italy more, but the history is so just both places, it's just mind boggling. Like, it's it's literally so beautiful. Like, seeing all the relics and stuff, it's crazy. I don't know. It was beautiful. It's it's I did get to see Notre Dame before it burned down. So Oh, wow. Before it burned down. Yeah. I mean, they're fixing it, but you know? Yeah. But Yeah.
[02:40:09] Unknown:
Have you been to Florence? Uh-uh. It's the oh, man. Off. The there are these cathedrals just like I got one here just like 100 kilometers in cologne. Oh, wow. Which is like like the real stuff. Right? So they're gonna tell you, like, oh, they build it from 1400, whatever the fuck, until now. Like, how did he did it in the 1500 when there were no cars, no trucks? Thing. Yeah. No no sense at all. Right. That's a different that's a different podcast. I love it. Alright. What's the definite what's your definition of,
[02:40:49] Unknown:
God? The God for me is is an Abrahamic God. I mean, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. But I also feel like it's a lot different than what they make of it, obviously, from our talk. Right? Like, and it and God is love. And, I mean, it's different than I the one thing Jesus said after everything was hung on the cross was love one another, and we still can't figure it out. So Yes. Yeah. That's for me. Yeah.
[02:41:17] Unknown:
I think, to connect with each other and respect each other in full way, which is the hardest part. Yeah. That's the first connection to love.
[02:41:28] Unknown:
Yeah. We have to stop being so different.
[02:41:31] Unknown:
Yeah. You for doing that, but I still love you.
[02:41:34] Unknown:
Well, hating the thing is different than hating the person, and that's what we need to figure out. Because you can hate something somebody does all day long, but you really don't know that person inside enough to hate them. That's pretty that's pretty bad. That's hard. No. I don't Yes. Yeah. I don't believe in that. Did you pronounce it with the with the,
[02:41:57] Unknown:
podcast on state that you have a relative that's is not gonna change, but now you you like him because he doesn't change?
[02:42:04] Unknown:
Yeah. I do have some like that. And I'm like, well, that's fine. Like, I have respect for people that are different than me. It doesn't mean anything. And one of my really good friends is an atheist, and I just you know, it doesn't matter. This kind of stuff, it it it really shouldn't. You should just love the person for who they are. That isn't who they are. That's what they're doing. You know?
[02:42:27] Unknown:
I love to talk to an atheist and say them like, oh, I love that you have a religion. And they would say, no. I don't believe in a religion. Well, that's a religion. Is it a religion? Don't believe.
[02:42:38] Unknown:
Yes. Yep. That's so true. That's funny.
[02:42:41] Unknown:
What's your definition of the devil, Heidi?
[02:42:44] Unknown:
That would be adversary. The adversary. I don't think the devil is per se what it is in religion. Right? Like, even for Job, even when Job talks about adversary, there wasn't a Satan really at that time. Right? Like, it is different than we think. Do I think there's one that's over all the many? Yeah. For sure. But, it is adversary. We have to it's dark and light once again. We're back to duality. Yeah. Absolutely.
[02:43:16] Unknown:
Yep. And we gotta pick we gotta pick. And that's what happening is to us. Yes.
[02:43:22] Unknown:
Absolutely.
[02:43:23] Unknown:
What's your interpretation or definition of value?
[02:43:28] Unknown:
Value is, like, not of the world, but what you are, what you can bring to the world. You know? I don't think that money I mean, we all have to have it. It's necessary because, you know, they've enslaved humanity. But I feel like it's important that we know who we are Mhmm. And that we share that with others. Even if they don't need something else that maybe they don't like 5 things out of 10 you said, maybe you're gonna help them. That's why they used to have people sit around and talk like we do now. But Right. You know, where where is all that gone? Where are the philosophers gone? So, you know, what are you doing for others? What are you you know, I'm not saying self worth isn't important, but I I think most of my life has been disservice. I mean, I'm a nurse and a mom, and and I feel happy about that. I don't feel like drugged down or like, oh, I had to do this. Yeah. Like,
[02:44:22] Unknown:
we're supposed to do that for one another, really. I mean Yeah. But you can't help others if you can't help yourself. You can't love others when you don't love yourself. That's that's something I I came across, and it was really hard when I was figuring out, like, with, with a burnout. And I walked, you know, down the bathroom. I saw saw myself in the mirror. We got your your portal. Just like, who the fuck are you, man? I just had to introduce myself. You know? Who who are you?
[02:44:54] Unknown:
You do. You have to know yourself and fill up your tank because if you constantly don't do that, you're gonna be worn out. And I did that for Sears.
[02:45:04] Unknown:
Yeah. I did that too. You're gonna be drained. It's like a battery. You have to re recharge it every single time.
[02:45:10] Unknown:
Yep. And you will never be enough for some people. You know? That's the sad thing. It's no matter how good and gracious and loving and and whatever you've tried to do, you know, you're always somebody's villain in their story. Oh, yeah.
[02:45:25] Unknown:
What's your interpretation or, definition of success?
[02:45:31] Unknown:
Success. Definitely not money. I mean, it is what it is. We all need it like I said. Or or Yeah.
[02:45:39] Unknown:
Money is something like, okay. This is the value that I'm gonna give you about what you did.
[02:45:45] Unknown:
Right? Yes. It it's more about being able to sleep with yourself at night. You know? You if you do not have that, then you're not very successful, in my opinion. You know? You have to be able to love what you are, who you are, what you're doing. You can change it tomorrow too. Like, if you don't, then now it's easy. So
[02:46:06] Unknown:
that's It's very important what you just said. Because when you change, I do also coaching. When you change, it's not more tomorrow. It's like now. In the moment when I change myself right now or wanna change, I do it now, not tomorrow.
[02:46:20] Unknown:
Right. Right. Yep. You have to do it again. Been it's been there. It's been you know? Don't one thing. Change one thing.
[02:46:28] Unknown:
Don't get overwhelmed. Change one thing. Yeah. Change his life before it changes. She was on a motto. Last two questions. Last two questions. What's your favorite quote?
[02:46:41] Unknown:
Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. That is my favorite quote. Yes. 100% coming from what I came from for sure. Yeah.
[02:46:52] Unknown:
What's your life's motto, Heidi?
[02:46:56] Unknown:
To be able to help as many people as I can. To to find the light, to find love, to find healing, to help broken people heal broken people. Because, honestly, I don't think there's any other way. I don't think the person that has all their shit together, we don't wanna hear from them. You know? Like, that's not really the person you go to for help. I mean, all of us that have been through the ringer, we've been through the ringer for a reason. And if you keep it, it's just like the guy that buried his gold talon in the bible. Right? And he did nothing with it, and God was really pissed. Like, Jesus was like, what are you doing? Why did you do that? You know? He didn't waste it. He didn't spend it. He didn't do anything. I don't wanna die not doing anything.
I wanna be brave enough to change some things. So
[02:47:44] Unknown:
I think this is a perfect way to, to stop this podcast. I had a really fun time with you, Heidi. Awesome.
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Thank you.
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3 hours in?
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Yeah. Yeah. I told you I'm chatty.
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Yes. Yes. And I I always say to my people when they are on my podcast, it's like, oh my god. You know? And just like, oh, this is Man, time is not in existence. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of something they make up. And, but I just had a really good time. I learned a lot. I did too. Yeah. And, yep. Feel free to, to contact me. And and and how can people contact you?
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Awesome. Yes. I am Heidi Love. I'm everywhere podcasts are served. I do have my own website now. It's the unfilteredizedpodcast.com, and they should update on there on or lead you to the link, but I think they are direct. Spotify, I drop twice a week, and YouTube gets what they get, like, every 7 to 9 days because they hate me, and they censor everything I do. I can't I I don't know what else to do. Like, it's very frustrating. Yeah. Or too simple. It's so maddening. Right? And Spotify lets anything through now. So I'm like, just It's strange.
[02:48:57] Unknown:
It's I think it's really strange. As a podcaster, I thought, oh, I'm I'm gonna be banned within a few seconds on Spotify. But then I'm listening to a lot of episodes from my fellow podcasters. Just like, oh, I can say whatever the fuck I want. You can. Yeah. Or Joe Rogan. You you can say whatever you want. Mhmm. I love it. I was 40 episodes in with, with my podcast on YouTube, which I really like because YouTube has this easy way to translate your, your stuff, you know, with subtitles in all languages.
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Oh, nice. And,
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basically, 2 times a, a community strike because they update every single every time I release an episode, they're gonna release some new community guidelines.
[02:49:41] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. It feels that way sometimes. I'm like, okay. And I didn't even talk about, like, anything major, like, on the times that I I I was actually surprised, which which things got me in trouble. I took their dumb little class, you know, whatever.
[02:49:56] Unknown:
Yeah. That's why I'm on Rumble. Not anymore on YouTube because I don't want to, you know, when I have another strike on YouTube, they will fucking delete every 40 episodes. That's why I'm so careful what I put on there now. Yes. It's so much work and time, and it's not not for me. It's and I did it with all my pleasure. It's for people to listen to Yeah. Other information than that they wanna put up. You know? Yeah. Listen to it and and and dig dig dive into some stuff that's really fascinating. And that that is also a little bit, you know, awake.
And, not awake at night of or awoke, but but awake like, oh, wait a minute. If I see it through all these kinds of psyops and lies, my life is quite good.
[02:50:47] Unknown:
Right. Right. Yep. We are we are some of the lucky ones. You know? I mean, it's hard to to see people surrounding you that fall for the narrative. And sometimes you're just like, I'm so black pilled at this point that I'm like, this is a fake. You know? Like, the elections or whatever. I'm like, oh, come on. You know? Just and and it it is. But I guess people need a king. That's why they killed Jesus after all. Right? So Yes.
[02:51:16] Unknown:
Yeah. And as I like to say to my, to my, listeners, I am the king of my kingdom because you're my temple. This This is my kingdom. Yeah. And I am the king. Yep.
[02:51:28] Unknown:
We should all be so lucky. We should all. Yeah. And it would change things. You know? It would change things, I think, for many people.
[02:51:35] Unknown:
Stop trying to please everyone. If I could do that with 1 person listening to one of my episodes, then then mission accomplished. Right. Yes. Absolutely. Not in for the money. I'm not in for I mean, I do the I I work just, like, 10 hours today and, ate something, had my coffee with me, jumped on a podcast, and we're 3 hours in. I'm gonna edit the stuff and all that stuff with a with a I wanna get It's a lot of time. Out today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so much time. But I do think it's a calling for some of us. Right? Like, I mean, I know. I feel it is. So, hopefully, like I'm the messenger of things, and, I got the ability to communicate in a different language.
And I got the ability to communicate with a lot of different people. And that's, that's something that that really that's really what what what I like about myself that I can do this. No? Yes. And so you got a lot of reach to a lot of people. And, I'm I'm I'm just doing the stuff that I like to do because, just like, say, if normal with a normal job and you would say to me, would you, work another hour or 2 hours? I would say, oh, hell no. Not for the money. You know? I wanna be, be dumbed down with a beer, cigarettes, and some, Netflix or some porn. You come on. I'm a guy. Nowadays, I just do the did this kind of stuff, and I'm putting on some music in a in a few minutes, and I'm gonna edit the stuff out. And then probably tomorrow gonna raise release the, the video.
[02:53:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Higher vibrational things. Right? Like, it's a higher I mean, that's what they want us to do is sit in front of Netflix. They want us to be dumbed down. They don't want you reading books. They don't want you looking up stuff. They don't you know? And it is what it is. I mean, we can all see. You can have the eyes to see and ears to hear, but also be blind at the same time. So Yeah. It's and you've had to interact. A lot.
[02:53:32] Unknown:
Cool. Yes. You know, not like, oh, how you how you do and message him. Just like we're we're just talking. You know, you give some information. Try to listen. Mhmm. For me, the hardest part in when I when I start with podcasting, don't be too much critical to yourself. I was listening to the episode from yesterday. I was so tired. I couldn't make up anything of the words that I pronounce in English. Just like, what the fuck are you saying? So I said that on on the Telegram, they say, oh, you're fine. We know people from America that can't pronounce their own fucking language. So what they can Yeah. Oh my god. So, yeah, keep up the good work.
Thank you. Let's keep in contact because I I really like things that you say. Probably gonna do a part 2 because there's a lot of stuff we can deep, deep dive into. You bet. Sounds good to me. I'm excited for it. Let's do it. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Heidi Love on this organized productions. And for all my listeners, your fellow humans out there, have a beautiful morning, a beautiful day, or beautiful evening no matter where you are on this beautiful plain planet. Thank you. Namaste, motherfucker.
Skip me bridge like squirrel, baby.
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What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect for the lore.
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Welcome fellow human to the disorganized productions podcast. The show that fuels your spirit, ignites your potential, and helps you become the best version of yourself. I'm your host, Rob, and each episode, we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you. Tap into your limitless potential and conquer life's challenges. Hello fellow human. This is a emergency broadcast. If you wanna sponsor the show and keep the lights going, please take a look at my link tree where there are a lot of links to my websites are available. My web shop, some health products, some wisdom products, and all all sorts of stuff.
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And, today, we're gonna talk about mormorism. Is it called mormorism? Right?
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More Mormon. Mhmm. Mormon. Mormon. Mormon. Yes. Okay. We're gonna talk about Mormon
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Occult's religions and, basically, about, a little bit about life. May maybe we're gonna touch down base a little bit on Paris also because we were talking about that. Please, a warm welcome for my guest, Heidi Love. Thank you.
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Hey. I'm happy to be here. That is my real name. My parents are raging hippies, for I'm a seventies baby. So, yep, Heidi Love is my real name. And I started a podcast on accident. I didn't even know this was ever gonna happen to me. So here I am. And, I went on one podcast because I wanted to tell him something. I've been a researcher my whole life. It was Josh Monday from the Christian Conspiracy Podcast. And love Josh. Yes. Hi, Josh. And he said, come on my show and tell me about this because I sent him an idea. And I said, no. You you do it. You do it. Here you go. He said, no. It doesn't work like that. You come. And I said, I don't do this. And he said, yeah. You can do this. And I said, no. I don't think so. And so then we got talking on the show because he talked me into it. I had my phone, my son's puzzle light, the little light he has to do puzzles.
And I'm just this mom. I'm, you know, what? I was, like, 47 at the time. This, you know, mom of 6 kids out of Mormonism. And I said, I just don't know that I have anything to say, you know, that anybody would care about. Because my whole life as I told you, I've been told to shut up. So, just because I talk too much. Right? And he said, no. No. Come back about Mormons. And I said, oh, why? And he said, well, because people wanna know about him. And I live in Utah. And I said, but everybody knows. And he said, no. No. They don't.
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There are still some people under a rock. But shout out to Josh Mande. He's like, and you were also on the, with Alexander Roll. Yeah. Talking Stitt. Truth to faith. You were there Yeah. Inquires of reality.
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Yep. Yep. Oh, Davey. Busy. And on Davey. Yeah. Davey Wavy is one of my first. Still got to tell. Yes. Yes. And my family thinks I'm crazy. That's Mark. Yes. Mark. I I would love to go on, Sam someday, but I have been on Mark, and that was awesome because I you know, going on some of these shows, as I said, I was an avid podcast listener, but I never thought I would meet some of these people. And I think my biggest one that I was scared of the most and the most excited for was William Ramsey. I really look up to William Ramsey. So
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Even listening.
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Shout out. You know, just test the credentials, and we'll make Yes, William. Yeah. He's he he was so gracious, and and it was a wonderful conversation, but I was scared. You know, he's an attorney. I mean, I really wanted to be an attorney my whole life. So when I talk to attorneys, I get a little nervous, but, you know, it was it was fun. It's been fun. It's been a wild ride. Wow. Yeah. I like it.
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So so since, since when did you realize, wait a minute. I'm in this this occulting
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religion, and I wanna get out. And how did you me tell you. Yeah. How to get out? I am so by DNA, my actual ancestry DNA says Mormon settler. It it literally says that in my blood. And my family settled this area with the branches with that came from Joseph Smith. Like, this is like like, my people are, like, deep in this. And when you're when you're raised like that, it's, it's almost impossible. You do lose your family. I did lose my family. And I lot my I had my mom. She had also done the same thing. We had a dichotomy at my house. It that's very rare in Mormonism because my grandma fell in love with a not a Mormon.
And so, yeah, he was a Chicago gangster from the south side of Chicago, and he was hell on wheels. He was a biker. He was a 1 percenter. He was very, yeah. He was wild. In fact, I remember being my grandpa was 6060 maybe, and he actually beat the shit out of a guy on the freeway because he cut him off at 60. And and the guy was, like, 35. I mean, I I'm telling you, you didn't wanna fight with my grandpa because he loved it, because he came from the streets. You know? Right. So Right. He if you hit him, sometimes he'd laugh. And then that would really piss people off. And so yeah.
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He thought it was funny because he's like, you have to learn to love it because if you're afraid, then you won't win. Yeah. Then you walk away. But if you if you're dealing with the pain and you you know what's going on, you you have this little twinkle in your eyes just like, oh, yeah. Let's get it on. Let's go. Yep. He was always
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he was always down down to fight. And I'm like, okay. So I saw this growing up, and I thought, you know, these people are going to jail every weekend. My family that was in the sundowners and is wild. And I thought, I'm not gonna do that. My grandma over here, she seems her and her family, the Mormon people, they seem, like they have it together. You know, they're they're very good. And, you know, you want, normalcy when you come from crazy. And my family was my dad was in prison. My mom was in an abusive marriage. Like, all these bad things that I went through when I was really young. So I just wanted a normal life. Like, a very normal life. And Mormonism can give that to you. So, you know, plus I'm making everyone happy. Right? Like, my whole family is like, yay. Like, she's good. You're good. You're a good girl. You know? Right.
And so when you're the first grandkid and, you know, all the things, you just wanna you wanna do all the things that make people happy. And so I did for a long time. But I don't know that I made me happy, but I don't think you care about that when you're younger. You know? You don't understand yet how to, like, individuate. You know? The individuation comes later in life. And I got married so young. I was 17.
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Wow.
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And, yeah, he was 25, almost 26. And it wasn't arranged or anything weird. No polygamy in the mainstream. It was just I fell I fell in love with him, and I just didn't wanna sin, if you know what I mean. So Right.
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Yeah. Oh, and and now you've got 6 children.
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Yeah. 6 kids. Well and I had, so this is not the same husband because he went a little crazy off the rails, but he got really into drug addiction. And for anybody that struggles with drug addiction, you know, I just always tell people now I'm a mental health nurse now. I don't shame him for his past. My brother did die of an accidental overdose, so I always tell people reach out. You know? Don't stay suck in a cycle. People are there to help you. I love helping people, and that's what I do now. So Right. Because you're a nurse too. Right? Yes. Yes. I'm a mental health nurse now. I've been a nurse 26 years. So Wow.
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Wow. You must have seen so much, and especially if you have that background. Right? Because, little bit back, you you went through the the to the. This is that's a crazy word. You're okay. How long is Mormon been around, like, as a
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The 1800 is when Joseph Smith, first came out with, you know, the whole Mormonism business, and I don't have the exact date. Let me let me Google that. But for me, I was in it for 34 years. I did everything I was supposed to. I did, you know, whatever they wanted me to do, and I just wanted to make everybody happy. And so let's see. 18 twenties in, Western New York, and so he was that was when 18/20 was when Joseph Smith claimed to receive the visions from God, and we'll I'll show you a little slideshow about that. But that was a good question because I've never been asked that before. So and I've done a lot of interviews. So So I need to put that in my wheelhouse, but I did jump out at 34. I decided, you know, I'd gone through all that with my ex husband.
He was really, having you know, he basically got hooked on drugs and took off, and I couldn't even find him to get a divorce. It was really crappy because I couldn't divorce him. So Oh, shit. Yeah. I was I was like this guy. And finally, I was gonna run a newspaper article, and he finally popped up for a half a second. And I was able to send the papers and say, just behind them, let me go. Like, come on now. Nice. But in Mormonism, that's not true. In Mormonism, I am married to him for time and all eternity. Time and all eternity.
I will show you some I don't believe in that anymore, and I've renounced it. But, he yeah. He had a little hold on me there like that. And he even told me when I got remarried, he said, it doesn't matter. You're still my wife. Wow. Yeah. It was weird. It got weird. But I knew in my heart that couldn't possibly be, like, the real way the world must work. Right? Because even in the Bible, it says, tell what? Tell death do you part. And and it says in the Bible also that there will be no male nor female in heaven. There will be no marriage in heaven because we won't need it. We'll be as the angels. And so angels don't care about all that stuff unless they do, and then they become fallen angels. Now you got a whole problem. But
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It's a whole different story.
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That's a different that's the Nephilim angels. Right? Yeah. But, you know, we get 2 fallen angels and their children at a different chapter of this. But we we just were kinda stuck like that for some time. And like I said, I I didn't wanna upset my family. I my mom left, but she never went through the whole thing. She never went through the temple. She never did all the things. So she, you know, what my grandma would say about her is just, oh, well, she just doesn't know. You know, she's kinda forgiven. You know? Right.
Whereas I am an apostate. An apostate is where you have done all the things that I'm gonna show you here in a minute. And, you do know, and then they consider you going to outer darkness. And so I am up in their standards, doomed to outer darkness, in nothingness, very similar to purgatory of the Catholics. And I will remain there, without god or anyone else for the rest of my life in Mormonism. Why don't we roll that?
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The funny thing oh, no. Oh, I gotta I gotta get rid of that that that sentence. I I said that yesterday in in a podcast with Davey all the time. Like, oh, the funny thing the funny thing well, it's not funny anymore when you talk about funny thing funny thing. But that's that's my little ego that's a narcissistically talking to myself right now. But the, the fascinating thing, that's a better word, is if you look at Abrahamic religions, like, Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. They are basically built upon other religions, my belief.
Yep. Yep. What but but this Mormon stuff seems to be, like, also, like a franchise commercialized method to get people into No.
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Yeah. They became a corporation. You're not un unwise about this. And I'll show you the occult beginnings here in a minute. But the corporation side of things, I actually do a show called the Mormon mafia. And, this is a real thing that happened, and they started corporatizing very early. In fact, the story of the Mormons is, okay. They're gonna run away from the government. They're gonna go west, and they're gonna go to Mexico, which was Utah at the time. So they were actually in Mexico. And the first thing they do here as they're running for their lives is call the government and say, hey, government. Do you want us to help you build a railroad? Does that seem like that makes sense to you? Oh, wow.
Yeah. It doesn't. Yeah. And so they are actually the Mormons have infiltrated every facet of the three little actually the Mormons have infiltrated every facet of the 3 little letter agencies, including the NSA, FBI, CIA. They are very knee deep and have I I have proof that there are multiple people even clear up to Watergate. And, you know, you can't prove anything nowadays because they've gotten so good at hiding their tracks, but the Mormons are, number one draft pick for the CIA, just so you know.
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Do do do we have any names of of, like, famous Mormons?
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Yes. So some of the people that were involved with the Mormon mafia, like the gays, gay, They are very famous up to this day. Their corporations live on through the Howard Hughes industry. Howard Hughes, the actor. And also the Huntsmans, are through that, the Bennetts. All of these people, like, have become senators, the Rob Romneys. Mitt Romney is involved in this whole thing. You guys, like, this goes deep. Like, when you when you get into the Mormon mafia end of things, and even when the Mormons don't, like, coexist and combine, like, together as Mormon brothers, they're still freemasons.
Don't forget. And then also, you know, minus even the freemasons part, people say, oh, well, freemason. You know? Okay. Whatever. But here's the other thing. There are a lot of them involved in the Rotary Club International.
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Right. That must be so it's a very powerful and very wealthy club of people with a belief system that could screw us up.
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Well, I always like to mention this, in my Mormon mafia, like, presentation is, do you know who the largest farmland owner in the United States is? I think it was Bill Gates. Right? Right. And do you know who number 2 seed is? The Mormons. The Mormon church. And do you know who the number one shareholding portfolio 2024 and before is of the Mormon church? Microsoft.
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Yeah. I listened to your podcast with Derek's dead. Tesla. Yep.
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Yep. Tesla's 10. Tesla's 10, but Microsoft is number 1. So they are definitely in cahoots with old Billy boy. And the thing about Bill is is everybody likes to talk about Bill Gates' dad because he was a eugenicist and he's an easy pick. You know, it it's kinda like saying, oh, the Rothschilds. Right? When there's a 100 other names that are way more important. 1, you can't even say on air. We'll get, like Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Coming in. Yeah. Starts with a p starts with a p and ends with an r. So we'll just put that out there, but the same thing here going on. Right? Okay. So on all of this stuff, when you're looking at it and you say, okay. Well, why is Tesla's number one financial adviser, Jared Burchall, even though he doesn't have all of the backings for that, he really doesn't fit. Well, Jared Burchall is a Mormon.
And he has been Elon Musk's guy for years years since 2006. And so I find it very interesting that every time you turn around, the Mormons are popping up, especially with money. And I do think they are going to be part of the silent overtaking of a new world order plan. They're very into this stuff, you know, and people can call me a crazy conspiracy theorist, but when I show you some stuff in their holdings, like, especially look up the enzyme peaks enzyme peaks problem that they had a few years back. And the fact that they were finally allowed to build a temple in Rome right next to the Vatican, not in Vatican City, but right next door. That something.
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Yeah. That's That's, like, big. That's, like, even for people with a religion that know is, like, that's a big one. Yep. Because they've never done it before. Yeah. Exactly. But but what is it that that, is your belief that it's a bad thing that of course, a lot of people that are in in the top of the world power and financial have a religion, whatever that religion is. But why should we be very careful with people that are, Mormons?
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Well, I feel like, you know, regular people, the regular grandma down the street or my family or or me, they don't tell us this stuff. All the stuff I'm gonna show you today is hidden. It's a cultic. And they don't want you to know, by the way, like, they don't want anybody to know. But these powerful powerful people, these powerful companies, they they have turned their religion into a corporation. And anytime you do that with power, like, how how the old joke is all all roads lead to Rome. Right? Like, it's no longer about God. That isn't about God. That's about mammon.
So, Harvey, now let's be honest. You know? And I'm gonna show you some stuff today that's gonna show you exactly what I'm talking about with mammon, which is funny enough. But I just feel like they are lying about what they represent, and I got out of Mormonism and just believe in God. I just believe in God and the Bible, and I read all the extra canonical books. I believe in the book of Enoch. I believe in all kinds of things. And, you know, I I don't, go to a church. I I don't believe in organized religion. It's corrupt. I I just feel like and I'm sorry for anybody that really likes that. I know there's traditions involved with it and stuff, but I just step back and look at the history of whatever you're in. It will probably be corruption.
Yeah.
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And it's funny because we've just talked about it. You see, there there it is again. Funny. Funny. I'm the funny man. But, we talked about briefly before we hopped on this podcast about paganism, which I consider more my kind of if if you call the belief system, it's not like a religion. It's something like I know I can point out my source of creation out there. It's a source of creation. It's a source of of debt and construction the same way. You know? But,
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oh, now I lost my train of thought. That's cool, Rob. Coffee. But it yeah. But it's not corrupt. I mean, they can't corrupt a a feeling. They can't corrupt a a thought or even a a book because you're gonna read a book and I'm gonna read a book and I'm gonna say something different than you're gonna say because we have different brains. You know what I mean? Jeez. So they can't corrupt that. Perception and stuff like that. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And so they can't really corrupt the core belief per se, but they can tweak things to make it just so good, and they have. And so the Mormonism that began, which I'm gonna share in just one moment on my screen, is not the Mormonism of today. I do not believe, because somebody came in and corrupted it. And it started very, actually, I mean, it was very interesting. It was not, you know, it's very solomonic.
We'll say that. They were practitioners of magic. And I can prove it. And they don't want that out there because they want to, did you ever watch Family Ties when you were younger, the shows? Yes. Say they Alex Geek Heaton did. Okay? They be a very suit and tie. You know, where this not we're not weird. You know, they didn't wanna be weird anymore. And so Right. They corporatized it, and and they made it very respectable. They made it very, admirable, but not at the top level. They're doing whatever the hell they want. You know? They're just hiding it. It's just like government. It's it's the same thing. You know? And you talked about in in talking still about, the the Mormon mafia that, they were perfect because they didn't drink.
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They didn't gamble. So they were very straight edged. Yes. Right? Yes. But is is it a little bit comparable with, with Yamash?
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I would say a little a lot different because they are they are not they tell us as we grow up as Mormons, be in the world, but not of the world where the Amish are not in the world. They don't want to be. They are out of the world. And so that. Yeah. And so we would always be told that, right, that we we had to be the example that we were not saved by grace. They do not believe in that. They believe that you are saved by works, and that is a really shitty thing to tell people. Okay? Like, you have to the reason why there's so many overachieving Mormons is because we're used to trying to earn our way to heaven. I mean, that's just the truth. And there is no free ride ticket to heaven on Mormon train. No. Okay.
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So it's it's basically involved with a lot of money or some things you have to do.
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Very much. And so There you I think this would be a great time to show you something, and I will feed it through us. Wait. You're
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I just sent it. Oh, you did that already? Oh, that's good because I was struggling to find it.
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You're good. How? There we go.
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Alright.
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Yes. You are. Okay. Perfect. I think it's ready to share. And let me try to pull this up really quickly here. And it's very interesting, like I said, that the Mormons, you know, you have to know something about who they are and what they are about to know anything about them because everybody has a past. Right? Right. And so you have to know about people's families. This is why they study in, like, you know, different things like sociology and stuff or psychology. Like, where did you come from? Oh, it's all your mother's fault. Like, okay. So let's that.
Yeah. So we'll talk about his mother. We'll go there first. Just add to just Smith. Sorry to interrupt you. Really quick, you probably you know that. I got here,
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the, what's it called in English? So you got a loudspeaker. You get gallery, more speakers. How can I how can I adjust this one so when you talk that the that you're full screen?
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Oh, it might not right now only because I'm doing a presentation. So it'll just yeah. It'll make me little right now, but that's okay. Okay. And so this is Joseph Smith's family, and this is his genealogy record. And Mormons are obsessed with genealogy. So his parents, the the parents of his dad are named something that I found very curious. Now I do not ever, condemn anyone for their beliefs. Like, I do not condemn if you wanna be a satanist, go ahead. Like, just don't lie to me about it and tell me that I'm gonna be a Christian, and I'm gonna go to heaven for doing these certain things. Okay? So this is my problem, you know.
So when we look at this name for Joseph Smith's dad's dad, Azael. Sound familiar like Azazel? Like Azazel. Like the Wow. Yeah. And so Are you already,
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sharing your screen now? Oh, yes. Is there a can't see anything. Uh-oh. Okay. Let me let me go back. But Azazel, yes. That's a very familiar name if you know a little bit about the demonic gods.
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Yes. For sure. Oh, why did it did it kick me out? Maybe it did. Let's see. Okay. Let me try that share one more time. Oh, there it goes. Okay. It did. It kicked me out. Sorry about that. I was like but I'm in here now. I can see. Okay. So
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let's do entire screen. Yeah. I got same problem with my telephone. So, I I think some, 2 or 3 letter organizations are not that happy with the the the news that it's doing sometimes. Yeah. They probably about it, but some somehow it's just like, okay. Let's see. Why is it Yes. Now I see your,
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Okay. You can see the the the oh, just zoom. That's so strange. Why is it? Okay. Let me go back to this and see if this will work. No. Oh, no. No. No. No. Stop that. Okay. It's being silly. There we go. Hopefully can you see Joseph Smith now? Yes. Okay. Perfect. Okay. So his dad's dad's name is Azael, and his dad mom's name is Mary. So that's interesting. And then we've got another the mother's side who is a Mac. And you being from another country, you probably recognize that last name. Mac is a a Scottish last name usually.
They're there, and they're not papered, so it's hard to know. But I also found it strange and interesting that the dad's name was Solomon being if he's if he's Irish or Scottish. Right? Like Yes. Because that's a very Jewish name. I mean but, you know, whatever. Yeah. So we can we can make some conjectures here and maybe wonder, did he change his last name to be more fitting maybe to her last name? We don't know because they're not papered. But Solomon is a curious name for for a Scottish or Irish man. So this is a drawing of his mother, and this is Lucy Mack Smith.
And this paper I show her simply because I'm gonna read you something, and I think you'll probably catch it. Now this says and this was just a letter to her friend and it is in the church history museum. I like to bring receipts because Mormons will often say I'm lying. She's lying. She's full of it. Blah blah blah. Okay. Well, this is why I do this. So it says, let not my readers suppose I shall pursue another topic for a season that we stopped our labor and went at trying to win the faculty of a brac, drawing magic circles, or soothsaying to the neglect of all business. So she is saying, I'm not lazy. That's not all we're doing. Right? But she said some interesting things there.
Right? Right. So the faculty of Abraak is I mean, you cannot unassociate it with the god Abraxas, and it is where the term abracadabra comes from. And abracadabra, you know, if you're drawing these pyramids, these abracadabra triangles, they're very associated with freemasonry, but let's remember, she is a woman. So why on earth is Lucy Mack talking about such things? Right? Magic? Witchcraft. And witchcraft, and she is known as a folk healer. Well, okay. So now we know a little about what's going on in the kitchen at home, you know, basically. And he's in this burned over district full of the new revival of religion at the time.
Everybody's got a new religion, and it's it's all over the place. And he says to God, he prays out in the woods, is the story. God, where should I go to church? What church is correct? I don't know what to do. So that's a good thing. That's not bad, but he has a fit of darkness come over him. Now that is curious. Remember that for a moment because we'll talk about it again. But he wakes up to see God the father and the son, which are separate entities for the Mormon church and so is the holy ghost. Mhmm. And so they they believe in 3 separate people and no trinity.
No trinity. Not the trinity. Okay. Yes. And so he's talking to them and they say, do not join any of them for we will send you a messenger and he will give you more information about about what you're supposed to do. Well, he does. So they send him a quote unquote angel Moroni. Now here's the thing I want to tell you. Moroni once lived upon the earth. He was a part of a native American clan that was here, but now he's turned white and delightsome. He's the most white native American ever now. But Wow. If somebody has lived on the earth before, are they an angel?
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No. Question could be.
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Well, according to the bible, angels never had bodies. Right? Never ever have they had a body. They're spirits. Spirits can live and be on the earth, and then die and come back. But like they're not really here here, and they're considered spirits. So Yeah. We get into this curious thing at this point already. Because actually, Joseph Smith says God's name is Elohim. Mhmm. Well, that's curious. Elohim isn't a God. Elohim is many things.
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Yes.
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Yes. So it is a title. You know? It's a title. And it's basically, anything that lives outside of this realm. Okay? Not in our physical realm. True. And so it's curious to me that all of this stuff comes up with Joseph because they say it happened just he was just praying, and that's how it happened. Right? Like, he's just praying and boom, it happens. But that's not really what happened. And I'm gonna tell you guys the true story. And this is Moroni, and he's usually on top of every temple that the Mormons build. And the temples are not churches. They are a special place. You have to have, like, special credentials to go in there. And what is he blowing? He's blowing a trumpet, which is really interesting when you go into Solomonic magic. Because what do they use to bring the spirits forth?
They use a trumpet. And so, you know, I dare say many people want to talk about how Joseph Smith was a freemason. Well, that is true. He was a master mason.
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However He was a master mason.
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He was. He actually attained his master masonry in one day in one day. And so his brother's name is Hiram. His brother. Yeah. So this is obviously a freemasonic family. And I mean, you don't just name your brother Hiram, like the parents knew some freemasonry there. Right? Like Hiram Abiff. And so I dare say that this family was actually not just freemasons. I think they were something called Martinus. Now this is a conjecture on my end, and I will always tell you when it's a conjecture or a fact. But I've done a fair amount of research on this, and I really think there's some good, examples for it, and we'll get there in the future. But but anyways, in Martinism, it is a practitioner, craft. They actually practice Solomonic magic. They don't just learn about it. They don't do it just by signals or hand things. They invoke.
They evoke. They, actually you have talismans. They do all kinds of things. They are practicing magic. And so, you know, I think this might have been what Joseph Smith was probably used to. But for years years, over 200 years, the official church history said, there was nothing about seer stones. This was the picture they told me as a child that he found these plates on a hill, because the angel told him where to go and he dug them up. Eventually he got them, and now he's translating them with something called the Urim and Thummim, which is very Abrahamic. Okay. That's like an Abrahamic thing. The chest plate of righteousness.
And so that's the story I got told. Okay. Well, the true story is this was channeled. This was channeled no different than John d channeled his Anokian workings. It was channeled by blocking out all of the light, by putting a seer stone in a hat. Well, this hat comes out of nowhere. None of us Mormons that are older, like, knew anything about a hat except on South Park. On South Park, they said it and we all laughed and said, isn't South Park stupid? They got it all wrong. Right? They got it all right. Right. So here is the prophet of the church right now. The prophet, seer, and revelator of the church. Is that Russell?
Title. Russell m Nelson. Yes. And he is a 100 years old. Russell on Nelson is a 100. And he pulled this hat out of the I don't know. They've got special tunnels and things. They pull it out of the vault and do this photo stunt, you know, with him. And the funny thing is they've never done this before. But Russelon Nelson isn't your typical prophet, and I have to tell you, he is a member of Skull and Bones, and the Skull and Bone Society of Utah. And the Stolen Bone Society of Utah was set up and formed by actually sanctioned members of Yale.
So this was a sanctioned chapter where Yale actually went and set this up for the University of Utah. Now I'm gonna ask you again. Why the hell would such a prestigious university care 2 shits about what a crazy bunch of polygamous Mormons running for their life are doing out in Utah? Doesn't make sense. Again, doesn't make sense. So he is a member of this. He is also a member of the University of Utah's Owl and Key. At the bonesman at Yale, it's scroll and key. But there, it's owl and key like an owl.
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Right. Like Bohemian Grove. They got your skull and bones again.
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Again. Yes. And so I I put this little picture in there because some people aren't familiar with, the different utensils of magic. And this shows a few of them. Right? We've got a wand. We've got a sword. Well, a dagger. We've got Elektra. And all yeah. All these things. And so I'm gonna show you some things that are very curious about Joseph Smith including the hat, and he was known to be a treasure digger. He was known as a scryer. He would scry for his father and tell them where to go, and and and, you know, the angels that would help him, and help him find the treasure and all this stuff. So he sucked at it, just so you guys know. He actually went to court because he sucked so bad that they took him to court over it. Wow. So, yeah, this family was kind of known as, like like, a magical folk, a rip off family, basically.
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Is this a real picture of of him or or drawing?
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This this is a rendition of him with his magic hat and his layman pouch, which is very important if you know anything about magic, but this layman pouch on his chest. And then the seer stones. So somebody recreated this. And we put it in there to show that these seer stones, they advertise them now. They show them now. None of this was ever exposed to us as kids ever. And they literally dug this up on another person's property, Willard Chase, and he asked to borrow it. He never gave it back. So Mormonism is built upon a stolen rock. He never gave the rock back. It's special. So he had more than one. He had multiple. They say that brown one was his favorite. This was a green one that he used often.
This white one, I believe is the the magical one because of two reasons. Number 1, the church has it and won't let a picture be taken of it. This is a drawing. And number 2, they sit there and say, oh that brown one was the best one, but it's not made of anything overly awesome. This is made of quartz. This has properties of quartz. And I do believe if anything was going to have magical properties, it would be a crystal type substance. Right? Right. So, you know oh, it went crazy. It likes to do that now. Anyways, so I do wanna say that Joseph Smith didn't immediately get those plates like it shows and like my church told me, like, they just basically got them one day and, oh, it was miraculous and easy. No. It didn't didn't happen like that. So I will tell you the story now of how it actually happened. On the fall, on the fall, like, equinox, the last day, at the middle of the night, he had to dress all in black. He had to invoke spirits by actually channeling them with sigil magic, and I'll show you guys some stuff here in a minute. And he had to do this at a specific time and place every year for years years, and talk to the angel, which is the spirit, you know, that he could bring back only at that time of the year. Now this is again where Martinism comes in. Martinists believe that they can speak to spirits and bring them back to the earth twice a year on the fall and spring equinox. Well, that's curious. Isn't it? So knowing what I know about that and knowing this story about one of the times that he tried to go get the plates and a and a toad, something like a toad was guarding them.
What do we know about toads? They are witches familiars. You know, oftentimes toads are associated with magic. And this toad turns into a man and punches him in the face, and says you cannot take him because you're not ready. Because it's it's you're doing it wrong. So bring your brother next year, bring your brother here. And in the middle of the night again, like, this doesn't sound very Christian. Like, in the dark of the night, dressed all in black, sounded ominous. Yeah. So he says, okay. I'll bring my brother next year. Well, problem is his brother dies suddenly.
After this whole thing happens, his brother dies before the next year comes about of constipation. Very interesting. He is the oldest son of Joseph Smith's dad. And that is also very interesting as we talk about magic and sacrifice and faustianism and different things. So okay. So this kid dies of an accidental overdose of constipation medication, which is weird. That's very,
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very weird.
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Yes. And so I want you to remember that as well because we're gonna get to the time where he actually does get the plates, but here we are setting up a story. So this is an actual rendition. Remember how I told you they sucked at treasure digging? Well, this is a rendition from the neighbor, Willard Chase, about what happened one night when they went treasure digging with them. These are the actual symbols that were written. And the funny thing about Willard Chase is they wanna say Willard Chase just lied. Okay? But remember what I told you. This wasn't just, hearsay. This was from a court case, and this is an affidavit.
So if you're going through and going to court back in the day, court really meant something and they're throw your ass in jail if you lied. You know, I just find it very unlikely that he lied about this fantastical story because it's fantastical. Right? It's it's not normal. And so he also said the part they left out, they love to leave out, is they slit a black sheep's throat with their magical dagger that I'm gonna show you in a minute and bled it all around this circle. Okay? So Wow. He oh, yeah. He also was known for sacrificing dogs, and they hate when that gets out. So this is all documented, Willard Chase affidavit in the Glasslicker case. You guys can go look it up. I'm not full of shit. Like, this is real. This is all the history. These sigils, are they moon sigils?
I'm gonna show you all about them. They're actually more than that. And so this is the ticket, the real ticket and the date of his court case. So if anybody would like to fact check me, I recommend it. That's great. Here is his little fine that he never paid. So, these are the Smith family magic relics. And they like to lie and say this belonged to the brother, because the brother and Joseph died at the same time in the same place. However, I'm gonna prove to you by well I can't prove it, but I can give you some examples of why I think it isn't. His brother was the one that was off at college.
He they wanna say these people were stupid lay folk that that didn't do anything but work the land, and that they didn't know how to read and write, and that they didn't know anything about schooling, but his brother went to Dartmouth. You heard me, Dartmouth College. And so that is a very prestigious school. On top of that when Joseph became ill when he was a child with typhoid fever, his mother called in surgeons from Harvard University. Now who the hell is she to be calling in physicians from Harvard? I'm sorry. That is connected. You don't just call people up if you're the dumb farmer down the road. No. To be real. No.
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So I think it's weird. But but that'd be funny if you go back one slide, please.
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I'm gonna show you up close even more. I'll show you Because I see a lot of,
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symbolic that's like, wow.
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Yeah. And we are gonna get into it right now. And Joseph died with this Jupiter talisman in his pocket. And the reason why they can't say this was the brothers is because his wife wanted it back. It was his most prized possession. It was a Jupiter talisman. And if you look it up and you actually zoom in on these tables and markings, and you've ever looked at something called the greater and lesser keys of Solomon, you are already understanding where I'm going with this. Now to make a talisman, you have to be a magical practitioner for some time. You can't just whip it out. You can't just pass by all of the other things you need to learn. He was an adept person at magic. I I promise you guys he is a magician and I don't really give a shit other than the fact they make Mormonism alive. Like, if they just would stop it, like, that cool. You know?
So this is what is on that talisman that I showed you, and this is the 3rd pentacle of Jupiter. This is in the lesser and greater keys of Solomon. This is how I found it by putting it in a reverse lookup because I didn't know what it was. I I'm not a magic practitioner. I don't even I didn't even know anything about the occult before I started podcasting. Right. And so, you know, I came about this pretty innocently, you know. I I wasn't trying to prove anything. I just was learning. And so I wanted to know what the hell I did, to be honest. Because I I I I read in the bible you shouldn't make any oaths. Well, I had made a lot of oaths. So I wanted to fix it. That was all I was trying to do. And so when I found this, I was a little taken back because now I'm looking for things that I have to study that are scary to me. Right? Because at the time, I was terrified.
Like, we're getting into doctor John d, Enochian magic. I didn't even know who that was. I didn't even know what that was. I didn't even know there was anything more than one type of magic in my whole entire life. Like, black magic, white magic, that's it. Right? Right. No. But I I didn't know anything. So this my mom is freaking out at this point. You have to understand, my mom lost her ever loved mind. She's like, you are buying the scariest books. You better cut it out. You know? And I'm like, no. I really feel like I should I need to do this. I I I know I do. And so I did. And I'll tell you this this particular talisman that he had says something very important on it. It says what? It says it protects and defends those who invoke.
Now that word is not those who are getting attacked, those who are having spirits sent at them. That isn't what it says. It says invoke, which means they are causing the spirits to come. They say this right here. And also Joseph Smith freely admits that he was channeling and talked to 26 dead people and or spirits and or angels, and he admits this including John the Baptist. So do you think as as an example with everything do you know about doctor John d's workings very good?
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No. Not yet.
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Okay. Well, doctor John d devoted his whole life. He was a Christian mystic. He was, somewhat of a, counselor type to queen Elizabeth the first. He wasn't part of court. He wasn't actually in the court, but his dad was. And so he is by her side always until she dies. Well, he is a mystic and he is doing magic. And he is doing, you know, the actual invoking with the black scrying mirror and an assistant. Well, he does this for upwards of 15 years. He loves God. He thinks he's talking to angels. He thinks that they're helping him. And then all of a sudden one day they throw him a curve. Okay? They're already throwing him lots of weird stuff, like like, do this, do that, and they're doing it. But, like, his assistant is getting sick of it because they're, like, you gotta get married. And he's, like, I don't want to. I don't know. And they were, like, yeah. You have to. And so he did it because they tortured him. They kept, like, poking him with swords coming out of books and all kinds of crazy stuff. And so he tries to run away twice.
And they people say he was a swindler. He was a liar. No. This guy is trying to escape. He doesn't even wanna play anymore. He's done. He's scared. He's got a wife now that he hates. Like, he doesn't want anything to do with any of this anymore, but he is stuck. He is stuck at the behest of these angels, and I put that in quotes. Now here's the thing, when you invoke a spirit, do you think it can lie to you? No. They can. They can lie to you. And not only and it says in the bible what? To be careful. To be careful of spirits. Even the verse that it says, go away, seraphim. I want nothing to do with you. Why do we have that? Because there are things that have been messed with that lie. They say they're angels. I don't think a true angel could lie, but I do think a a demon, a lesser lower level demon in the string.
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Yes. It reminds me of so. It reminds me of a podcast that I did, too with the Natalia Nathaniel, Gilles about demonology that they can eventually, have a different kind of, that they can show you what you want to see, but they're not.
[00:49:35] Unknown:
So they oh, wow. That's exactly true. Because why? If you believe in the heavenly realm, okay, if you believe that you have a guardian angel, people. Mhmm. If you believe in the spirits that are good, okay, Rob, knowing what you know as a pagan thought process, what's on the other side of that? What's on the other side of good?
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Bad. Right? Yes. We because Rob wants to
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Yes. We cannot have light without darkness. We cannot have any of it. So we have to know that there are things that we do not understand in this world that are being messed with and possibly lying to you. But here's the fun part. They know that you miss your dead grandpa more than anybody else on the planet because they've been watching you just like your guardian angel for all of your life. And they know you better than you know you, and they know the wants of your soul. They know all these things because what? We're constantly tested. Right? I mean, it's just part of life. And so even in duality, there's tests. Even if you don't believe in Jesus, there's tests. So we constantly are faced with these choices in life, and this I believe was a dark spirit that lied to these people because I'm gonna tell you why. All of a sudden they're in the midst of, like and they're mean to them all the time. They're, like, you smell bad, You need to take extra bath before we see you. We hate human beings. You guys are disgusting.
Like, they're just mean all the time. And so all of a sudden they're, like, hey. We have an idea. Remember they made the one guy get married. They're like, you need to share everything, and we do mean everything. So swap some lives up, swap them lives, and we want to have that happen. Now do you think anything from a benevolent being would have you do this?
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It doesn't sound right. I know. It doesn't It it no. Also, in the bible, there are some I think it's Nephilim that are having intercourse with women.
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Yes. Nephilim. But they're already fallen. And so, of course, that's my conjecture is this is probably fallen angels screwing with these guys. Right? Right. It. So all of a sudden, John Dee is faced with 15 years of his life. He has devoted everything to this. This is something he wants more than anything on earth. And what does he do? He knew at that point this becomes faustian. He knew at that point, this is probably not right. You know, this isn't really something that we should probably do, but he does it. And when he does it, there's the price to be paid. And guess what? His wife gets pregnant. And he has to raise this guy's kid forever until and they both end up breaking up. They don't end up finishing any more workings. They both die in obscurity.
The one dies with his legs cut off and being a prisoner, jumping out a window, and the other one dies his family, he watches everyone he loves. I daresay his was worse. Everyone he loves dies first. All from the from the plague and, like, they're tortured. And so it's horrible. You know? Well, we get into other religions because remember how I told you to put the spinning in the darkness in your back pocket? Well, what we know about Mohammed, let's do another one. Mohammed would go out in the desert. He had these scribes and they would go walking and different things, and he would have fits of darkness come over him. He would fall down and pass out. And when he would wake up, he would say Gabriel told him a, b, c, d, and they would memorize it because they were a nonwritten people. And then they wrote it down eventually, and it became a religion. But then shortly after all this, what does Mohammed do? What does he do that's distasteful to many?
He marries a 9 year old girl. He marries a 9 year old girl and says it's okay because she has precocious puberty. Because she already has, you know, womanly attributes. And so now we have, the price to be paid that isn't heavenly. And also what is he in state? Polygamy. And hell holding women down and, you know, kind of making sure that there's no real light coming from these women, which is again, it's not right. Duality always exists. We need one with the other. So Right. You know, he he does that. Well, Joseph Smith is in this for the same things. He's he ends up doing what and stating polygamy. We can do a fun one. You'll probably get this one more right or know of it, but same thing happens to Aleister Crowley.
Crowley goes to Egypt. And yes, he encounters Ewas. Everybody goes to lamb, but Ewas is more important because why? The book of the book of the law comes from Ewas. He says write all this stuff down in a book and it becomes a religion. Every one of these things I'm telling you became a religion. And all of them had a price to be paid sexually or otherwise. Crowley's was easy. He was already playing Faustian all day long. He didn't give a shit. He didn't care. I mean, you know, he was yeah. I mean, he's doing man on planet. Right? Yeah. He didn't, mom. Dressed up all the school orgies, all that stuff. Although, I will say it hurt him very badly when he lost his daughter, and I do wonder if that was part of the bargain. But because most of these people have lost their children in this process. So he did lose a daughter that hurt him extremely badly.
And so, you know, but, again, let's do another one. Let's do L. Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons doing Babylonian workings in the desert. They're already paying the sexual price right then and there. We know because if you've studied that, you guys know what's up in there. And they're doing some weird stuff. And then all of a sudden what? They come out of it and they write it all down and it becomes Scientology. So there's nothing new under the sun. These things continue. John d's workings become a big crooks for the continuation of the crusades, and the Christianity movement, and all the things that happened there. So, like, when I speak of all this stuff, you know, I just don't believe that anything that comes in the in the essence of goodness, in in God's pure love would give us these horrible fasting things. They he he wouldn't. No. And so, you know, I say that because this leads into some weird places, and I think these men had to have known at some point.
At some point, they made the bargain because at some point when they say, hey, swap wives, you know you're not dealing with God anymore. I'm sorry. Yeah. Demons. And so yeah. Exactly. They're getting their rocks off and it is what it is, you know. But to do magic, we know there are certain things, including a dagger, that are extremely important. Now a dagger can be, not used to kill. It can be used, like, kind of as a wand, but, also, it can be used to kill when it's a ceremonial dagger. And I like to explain, you know, this can be a prayer that's already on the knife.
So, keeps doing that. Prayer that's already on the knife so that it they don't have to stop and say anything when they when they do the sacrifice.
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So when we're talking
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and and not just the seal of Mars, the bottom row is even more important. The intelligence of Mars. Now it doesn't sound like anything. Intelligence of Mars sounds like I'm just talking fancy talk. That means demon. Intelligences are demons.
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And Mars is also related to war. Mhmm. Like Tir Yeah. Like Tuesday?
[00:57:01] Unknown:
Yes. Yep. Wow. And all of this stuff is happening at this time. And these tables are Solomonic tables. Now this table that I'm showing you and and this translation of it from the knife handle is from Barrett. Barrett wrote what? The magus. The magus. This is not, from the bible. This is not from something heavenly. This is from a witchcraft book, you guys. This is, you know, that's I'm sorry. That's just what it is. This is
[00:57:35] Unknown:
you wanna go back? Yeah. If if if you a few slides back yeah. Don't do it. But a few slides back, I saw also the so the occult, thing that, Himmler was doing with the SS tribes here in in Weevilsburg. Well Black Sun is old. It was very dark, occult.
[00:57:57] Unknown:
The Mormons symbol. The Mormons are very involved with the Nazis, and we will Oh, okay. We can talk about right now. Another time. Yeah. It gets complicated, and I do believe they're part of the one world order from all of this stuff, but they hide it. And this is a nowadays picture. This picture is current. This is a Martinist order. These are Martinist freemasons. They are a French magical order. Now let me tell you something that people will tell you is they'll say, oh well, he was in the Scottish right of freemasonry. Bullshit. Wanna know why I say it's bullshit?
Because he got his whole revelation in 18/20, and he's dead by, like, 18 fifties, sixties right in there because they murder him. So I have to tell you guys, like, that by this point in the 18 twenties, Scottish Rite Freemasonry was barely being organized maybe 50 years, maybe. So this French order, however, it had been going for a long time. And the funny thing is is I was I was researching like, well, who who did he know that went to France? Like, who where's the connection? Like, what where is this at? You know? And again, like I mentioned, the the Mormonism was very ingrained in the Welsh community, first of all.
And the first book of Mormon ever translated outside of English was in Welsh very early on because there were so many members that were Welsh. But also you have to understand he looked up to this guy that was basically his teacher named Lumen, which is hysterical like light giver. Walters. And so Lumen Walters came back just recently from France and then hooks up with Joseph Smith. Well, they said he came back a little different and he was this doctor, but he really wasn't a doctor and he was very known to be an occultist. And so he came back without god. Literally, they said godless and cultic.
So I do believe that Lumen Walters was either in an order such as this or this particular faction. And actually, I have to tell you, this goes on to this day. Ike Baker was just on tinfoil hat and said he is a Martinist. So Bro.
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So what you see here in the picture for the people that are listening to this podcast, people are in in in ropes and in, cloaks. They blinded their eyes with some, what's it called? What's the English word of, like, the blindfold? Yeah. The mask. Yeah. Mhmm. They they have wide long gallons under their cloak. And, we we see see some few, things like a sword, and also a black and white and a red and white, like a candy, which is squirreled. You see also that one in the background. Right? So did the the red and white and the black and white. Can you tell me a little bit about that? What it what does it mean? What
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What Martinism is, I can tell you. I'm not sure about the background, but I do know this about Martinism because I did a show on Martinism, and it is a branch of actual magical working masonry. It did come from France, and they are magical practitioners actually using Solomonic magic with the lesser and greater keys of Solomon. So Martinism was started by this guy here in the middle called Pasquale, and then to the left is Saint Martin, and to the right is Willemos. These three men were critical. They are this is a Kabbalistic arts order. Mhmm. And actually, this guy here, Saint Martin, he's known as the unknown philosopher, and he really didn't want anything to do with angels ever again after he did this. First, he said, yes. Talk to the angels twice a year, blah blah blah. And then he must have had a bad experience. I don't know. But then he said, no. Don't do it.
It's all should be internal. And he started something else called the order of the heart, which means, yes, study it, but don't don't do it. And he actually is one of the ones quoted as saying, get away, Seraphim. I want nothing to do with you, basically, from the bible. So it scared him to death. And, this also, Willermo's here, he reorganizes things into the CBCS, which is critical for the future of masonry. Like, I mean, this goes on to today. But also it it has a very Templar, Knights Templar infusion into all of this. And Pasquale as well was known to get some of this magic from Haiti.
He was over in Haiti, and from black magical arts is where he learned a lot of this. And this seal up here is their seal.
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And it is you know? I mean, it's so fascinating that you just point out so many things about religion that has been commercialized. It's been been brought up by people just like, okay. We're gonna do it, on this spectrum. They're gonna have a lot a lot of funding, a lot of people involved in it. Yeah. But it's not like one of them. All their fucking religions are based on that. I tell all together. They're all together. Yeah. And it doesn't mean, that that that you you should believe in the in in good things,
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and do good for others and stuff like that. But They've corrupted it. With religion, man, because Yes. Yes. The they've corrupted it. The Bible is not corrupt. The things that, you know, you can pray. The reason why God says in the Bible so many times to what? Pray about this. Use discernment. Think about things yourself. The reason why god gave us critical thinking skills is because of men like this. They're using you guys, you know, the there's nothing better than religion to organize men. I'm sorry. Like Oh, yeah. If you got yeah. And look at the guy in the middle picture how how he looks
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so nice.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's very regal. And also this goes into Cagliostro. If you know anything about Cagliostro and the order that goes back to Egypt for the freemasonry. So these guys all knew each other, and guess who else they hung out anew? Swedenborg. So I'm just saying, like, this stuff is not new. This stuff is old, and they revitalized it. And so magic has been here for as long as the Earth has been here. You guys, like Yeah. Is Some is it crazy to say that
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mankind has been corrupted by all religion or politics, and both go hand in hand together?
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Absolutely. Yeah. But well, I think the best quote to ever, say anything about is absolute power corrupts absolutely. And anytime you get, you know, all the free thinkers out and you make anything mainstream and you say his way is wrong, you're wrong, this is wrong, that that's wrong. You know, I don't know that God does that. You know? God just doesn't doesn't do that. And so, I just think that that's just that's just not how it works. You know? And so I I don't know. I just now I just believe in God, and I pray to God, and I believe in Jesus. But I I believe in the Bible, but I just don't believe in any religion.
I'm I'm not a partaker of it. I I just do my own thing. I'm over I actually got rebaptized, but I made sure it was in a reservoir, and it wasn't by a a churchy person really. I mean, it just I I just don't do anything like that.
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So So I I just forgot what when we hopped on, I forgot to ask you 14 questions, which I normally do at the end of the podcast. I'm gonna do that anyways. But, yeah. No. No. It's just just me
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skipping branch like screwing good. Calmly. You're you're good. You're good. So when I was looking up and trying to figure out things about the greater and lesser keys of Solomon, This is what I found was a free PDF. It has been digitized by Brigham Young University. How fun is that? By Mormon College. So I just think that the and and with funding
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from Brigham Young Young. Why do they care about magical books? Why do they care about that? Right. I don't know. And the the I think the Ling is very fascinating.
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Us is being crazy. Stop. Stop. It went cuckoo. Okay. So for that matter, I just think it's funny that they they like to fun things that have nothing to do with their religion. And this is just some cards and some pictures from Solomonic magic practitioners. It's just showing people kind of what that looks like. Mhmm. And this, to prepare them for remember when I told you to remember about the layman holder around his neck? Yes. Was this this is what was inside of it. Exactly. So this is a this is called the holiness to the Lord parchment. This is actual direct workings and sigil magic period. These things either come from Francis Barrett's magus, Sibley's book of witchcraft, occult sciences.
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Oops. What's happening? Oh, no. What's happening? Oh, no. No. No. What's happening? Shitty shit shit.
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Hey. Bear with me a second. What's happen my Internet you
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Oh, there we go. God. That's okay. You can combine them. You can combine them. Yes. Well, I I won't edit anything normally, but, I don't know what's what's happening. I just screwed up. I know. Mine just went crazy too. Yeah. You don't want to bring this out. Yeah. I'm certain of that. I am certain of that. So this on Sibley's book of witchcraft, which by the way, if you try to buy that book, it's, like, very expensive nowadays. But when this says they should pay him homage, the spirits, that's very strange. And when they're locked in a seal like this, this is this is like a jail for them. They have to do what is said. Okay? But again, when we look back at this paper, not everything has a seal around it. Not everything does. And these are all calling down. Like, this is Raphael. And I put this in here so people can deep dive it or look at it, but we're gonna there's more, up close slides here in a second.
But, obviously, everything on here is not I mean, would you ever see this at a church? I don't think so. No. You see this, probably on supernatural,
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when they are dealing with angels and when they are dealing with the demonic kind of stuff.
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That's right.
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Yes. And and the it's also very fascinating that's it looks a little bit like ruins, which are very, very old, of course. And, yeah, it it these are sigils. So these are Sigil magic. Yes. Yes. They they are for a purpose of magic with a k.
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And this star, remember, they didn't have the circle around the star. So that means he is working with these things. Okay? He is specifically working and has a working exchange relationship with some of these things. And so when you're looking at that, and all of these ones that didn't have it around it, it that means he has a a working relationship with them. Because there's more angels than 1, and demons for that matter. So these are some of them that are on there. Polly paw, Juban Lades, funny enough, that's actually a freemason password on one of their passwords.
Like, they know this stuff. You know, the now gob. All of these things are are and people will say, well well, that doesn't look bad because it's trying to make sure he doesn't get attacked by evil spirits. Well, you have to remember who was invoking the evil spirits to begin with, and that was Joseph Smith. Oh, wow. So It can go one backwards. Yes. So
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So Nel Gapp protects the mind and senses of a petitioner of infernal magic from the attacks of witches and evil spirits. He is thought sought on specific astrological dates by and by blood. He has a bow, shield, and spear to protect the wearer from his sigil, from witchcraft, and suicide. So right there, what you just read, you know and I know that there was more to it than even just this weird magic. Now we're talking about blood magic. Oh, yes. Exactly. That's what I wanna point it out. And it's not only like the witchcraft that you you you you practice, but also for suicide from demons that could do things with you. Like hang on doorknob in some kind of way.
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And so people wanna say, you know, these things are not necessarily bad if if he's going to go talk to these or whatever. But if they're not bad ones, they're protection ones. But here's my question for you all. If you are a Christian, you do not do that. You do not commune with spirits to do these things. Who do we go to? We go to God. So my problem with the whole thing is is he's already said God for him was Elohim. He is obviously working with multiple spirits. He is not a Christian. And I don't really care. If he wants to go do a satanic powwow, I just really don't give a shit. But I don't think he was doing that. I'm just saying, I don't think it's right that they are misleading 100 of 1000 of people into something that they do not understand.
You should have the ability to understand what you do. That's what my point is. And so, you know, when you're talking about this stuff, this is how everything was made in Mormonism. That he was directly communing with spirits. And he was invoking them. It's not like they were showing up. Like they weren't just coming out of nowhere. This is the second one. This is his next parchment called the Jehovah, Jehovah, Jehovah parchment. And he's got a pentacle there. He's got the sign for Jovan Ladace. He's got the seal in the middle. And actually, if I remember correctly, it's Venus, which isn't necessarily a good one. People think that it is, but it isn't. And and you can look into all this stuff with the lesser and greater keys of Solomon. That's why I did put in there where you can get the free PDF because it's a lot of homework. I did a ton of homework for this. Wow. And and I'm telling you guys, just because it says Jehovah, it doesn't always mean what we say it means. Right? Just like Zeus has a different name in other places. Just like Yes. What yeah. And be careful because words are spells. So maybe they want you to say some pronouncing some names
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because you are, dealing with some spirits that you call upon, that you do not know. That's exactly what they do nowadays. Oh, wow. When I
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when I get you to the part where we go to the temple, which we're coming up on, I I'm telling you pre prewarning, I truly believe that the Mormon church uses the sheep just like the Jewish people. Like they get used they they use the goyim, and they say, oh, okay. We're gonna use them for magic. Just like what happened with that freaking tie Tyson fight. That was nothing but a power grab loose. Well, that was a loose grab. It was all orchestrated to get everyone to have a lot of energy to power something. And people that don't believe in that, I don't know what to tell you guys, but it's real. Like, when he, you know, it's just the universe we are batteries. Like, why can they put a pacemaker in someone and have the battery last for years years years years years because it's running off your electrical conduction.
Right? And so when we are talking about things like that, and it does have a battery as well, but I'm saying it lasts astronomically long. And so when we look at this, you know, you can't say that that the the universe doesn't have energy. I'm sorry. Like, that is one part where if you're an atheist or whatever and you don't wanna believe in stuff like that, like, that's okay. But, it it doesn't make a lot of sense. You know? Even if you don't believe in God, you have to believe that something has energy. The sun has energy that's, you know, rounding all kinds of things. So Yes. When we're talking about this stuff, I like to bring that up, and they use necromancy. And I do wanna bring up that most of the church, almost all of the church practices that we do are highly gone to necromancy, and I'll show you guys. But this was an actual I like to bring the real details and the real receipts.
This is a actual publication from Joseph Smith senior, the dad of Joseph Smith, which he ran in the Palmyra in September of 18 24 saying, and I'm gonna paraphrase. If you saw if you saw us dig up our dead son, Alvin, well, that's because we were checking because you guys said we dug him up and we didn't dig him up. So we're gonna prove to you that we didn't dig him up by digging him up. Well, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But, you know, I'm not Joseph Smith. But I am saying this, I don't think it's very, it doesn't make any sense. It's just basically covering their ass so that if some people saw them, you know, messing with a grave, and they could say, oh, well, we were fixing stuff because we were showing you that the body hadn't been disturbed.
Well, I don't know about that. Oh my god. So we're gonna get into what we do in the temple. And one of my favorite things to show at this point, this is a real church paper.
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And I know that guy.
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Yep. And guess what? They did his work in the temple. Now somebody attacked me last night on a show that I did because they said, oh, you have to be related to them to submit their stuff. Well, then how come all these they did all the Jewish people that were in the holocaust, they did Anne Frank, and they did Hitler. And so I'm just wondering, like, who was related to all those people? That's such a lie. Like, nowadays, maybe they put some stipulations on it because of this. Because when this happened and they started doing the Jews and Anne Frank specifically, the Jewish people got pissed off. They were like cut your shit.
Stop touching our dead people. Like knock it off. Now, you know, they said they would, but they didn't. And so they did all of Hitler's work to get him to heaven. All of it. To their Mormon heaven. Oh, wow. So, yes. They baptized him as a Mormon in this font right here, not this exact, but this is a replica. Right. With the oxen 12 oxen to represent the 12 lost tribes of Israel, they say. However, you and I both know what else oxen represent. And who do you put in the bowl? You know, you put children in here to do the baptisms. Well, that just sounds like Moloch to me, but, you know, whatever. Tomato tomato.
Okay. Sure. Yeah. But the this is done mostly by kids that are 12 to 16. You can do it if you're an adult, and you do this by proxy. And when I say by proxy, I literally mean you get in there and you are the dead person. They say, whatever George Gray, you know, you are George Gray today. You are the purse and so it often makes me wonder, first of all, are they attaching things to people? And second of all, you know, what exactly is the real reason for this? Although people will cite that there's baptisms for the dead in the bible, but you also have to remember about intention.
And what is happening here? Yeah. And so the magical stuff that we know already, it makes me wonder because then we get into more dead people stuff here. This is a cane made from the actual coffins of Joseph and his brother. After they were all gross and falling apart in these coffins for some amount of time before embalming was really a big deal. They took the wood, the rot the nasty disgusting leaked on wood, and made canes out of these. And then if that wasn't bad enough, they took hair from their heads, and they braided it, and they put it in the top of these. And so, you know, I just am telling you guys, like, sometimes when you have a wand, it's a small wand. But sometimes you have what did Gandalf have? He had a staff. Well, staff is a lot like a cane. You know? And these prophets, later on, they say these are hugely important and will become, like, a big, big deal in the end days and all this stuff. So, I mean, it is what it is, but it's still pretty creepy.
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I lost ash, though, and cranes because I make them myself.
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Right. But not out of dead people's stuff. No. Not not nuts. No.
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And I don't have any hair, so that's No. No. You know, that's not gonna fit.
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Yeah. No dead people stuff is in there. And so when we're talking about connections with the dead, it happens again and again. And this was Joseph Smith's actual staff. Now the interesting thing that I find about this is not only that the godhead is represented by multiple all seeing eyes, there's 3. And then it has his his initials j s. Right? Joseph Smith. But the one thing about Mormons that you have to know is they absolutely hate crosses. They hate the cross. And here we have an upside down cross. And I find that very fascinating.
Got it. I do not believe that these people were Christian in the way that we say Christian. And I do believe they are worshiping a god, but I do not believe it's god, like, of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Exactly. This is not like a a good fellow that's that's been looking down from the sky and have good intentions. No. No. And he and he's obviously worshiping multiple gods because he talks about this. You know? And so Josephine's cane was, shaped as a serpent. And he says it's a serpent cane, but I have to tell you something and you'll catch it. Doesn't it look a lot like the drawing of lamb from Aleister Crowley?
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Yes. Yes.
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I can't prove that. I'm just saying I'm gonna put a side by side in this slideshow because And it also looks a little bit like an alienated
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face. Yes. Especially the the, down of and which we all should know is, a lot of times when we have representations of the eagle and a snake, which I have as tattoo also, The snake is represented for wisdom, knowledge. So it doesn't have to be like a a a demonic kind of thing. But think about when you have more knowledge than the average people, the average Joe, and you walk around with that just in plain sight. Like, I got more knowledge than you. So what shit? Wow. Wow.
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Oh, you you muted, Heidi. There we go. Sorry about that. And so I do like to tell people another thing at this point is that Joseph Smith was once quoted as saying he had done more for mankind than any person ever had. And so I feel like you're right on that knowledge thing. I can't move this. I don't know why it moved. And so I there we go. I I just find it very interesting that he was already kind of full of himself, kind of like you're explaining, that he literally said that. He said, I have done more for the world than anyone else ever has. Oh, wow. Yeah. It that's really humble.
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Yes. And and and he was like a 33 degree mason within one day.
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One day. Yes. He rose. You you basically go to,
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to your, college and say, okay. Give me any exam that you are having here, and I can prove you that I have the knowledge.
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Absolutely. And when you're talking about somebody that's kind of got that, well, how do you think that happened? Right? Like, usually, it's not natural. It's a download. Usually, it's downloaded from who? Angels or something. You know, fallen angels, I dare say. I'm gonna show you a reenactment here. That's a very small clip of what we do in the temple. This is a reenactment, but it is accurate. There are changes because it is an old reenactment, but I will tell you which changes have happened. So here we go. I'm gonna show you this little clip. You knew it.
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Can you hear it okay? Yes. Yeah. I do. Yeah. Perfect. What you will see is an authentic first time ever on film reenactment of secret Mormon temple ceremonies that even most Mormons have never seen. And those who have,
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have sworn never to reveal these secrets under penalty of death. The execution of the penalty is represented by placing the right thumb under the left ear, drawing the thumb quickly across the throat to the right ear, and dropping the hand to the side. All of us who've been through the temple have sworn solemn oaths,
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consenting to having our throat slit and our
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heart and our vitals throat torn out. The execution of the penalty is represented by drawing the thumb quickly across the body and dropping the hands to the side. In the Mormon temple marriage,
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the partners are sealed to each other for time and all eternity in mason like rituals. And without this ceremony, no one can enter the presence of Joseph Smith and become a god.
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They lay heir. Brother Pratt, having authority, I wash your preparatory receiving your anointings for and in behalf of John Kimball, who is dead, that you may become clean from the blood and sins of this generation.
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Mister Bradford, I wash your preparatory to you receiving your anointings for and behalf of Eliza Barrett. Eliza Barrett, who is dead, that you may become clean from the blood and sins of this generation.
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I wash your head that your brain and intellect may become clear and active.
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Your eyes that you may see clearly and discern between truth and error. Thousands of occultic ceremonies each day are performed for the dead,
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so that they too can receive the benefits of Mormonism. Mormons are encouraged to have encounters with the dead, and it's not uncommon for demons impersonating the dead to appear to mormons stating that they've been converted to the Mormon church in the spirit world
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and now want their family history traced. Your loins, that you may be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth, that you may have joy in your posterity.
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Your vitals and bowels, that they may be strong and healthy and perform their proper function.
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Your breast that it may be the receptacle of pure and virtuous principles.
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Okay. So Wow. We'll unpack that little piece. Of course, that is just a snippet. There is it's a 2 hour long ceremony with creation story and freemasonry stuff, but Mhmm. They don't grab your they don't grab your boob. They don't touch you in a sexual way. I like to make sure people know this. You are naked. You are naked underneath that little poncho thing. But they changed it because enough people complained. And I understand because I was naked under mine. It was very it's it's open like a poncho, you know, you're just exposed. But you are alone with just swimming or just men, and it's done kind of in a private area at that part. And then it goes forward and the penalties for death have been taken out because I truly believe it was because of a certain case here.
This book under the banner of heaven is also a movie now on Hulu, a miniseries. And it is really good, but I will say there are parts of it that are lies because I've spoken to the surviving husband of the murder victim. And his brothers got really into, the old teachings of Joseph Smith, and they went and blood atoned and slit the throat of his wife. And then it was changed the next year. So no, I do not believe that was an accident. I think they had a horrible PR problem. Blood atonement was part of the Mormon church and still is in the FLDS, which is the polygamy groups. Because they just make it look like an accident,
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basically. And it's really fascinating that when you're looking to, masonic rights, There are some some rumors that they also have, like, if you are willing to talk or whatever outside of the, society Yes. You're gonna be killed and stuff like that. And all They are the same. They are the same. Exactly.
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And I have spoken to many Masons, upwards of 32nd degree Masons. And they concur that this was done. But I will tell you, they took out their death oaths. Now here's an interesting thing. The Mormons took theirs out, and then the masons followed. Isn't that interesting? Why would the masons follow a church? Right. Right. Very interesting. I I don't know who's running who. Yeah. How many years are there,
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are the interference of the the freemasons and the, the Mormons
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when it comes to states? There are a lot of similarities, and there is similarities in the outfits. This is a one breasted robe. It's it's blending into their white t shirt, but you can see it's a one breasted robe. It is a green apron. The apron is similar. The women actually shield their faces back in the past, but they do not anymore. So that is updated. I like to be as fair as I can be about all of this stuff. But this regalia is very similar of the OTO and of the Masons. And and here's the thing, you know, and the women can be Masons. Remember how I said to you, why would Lucy Mac Smith be doing masonic things? Because Martinists allow women.
They always have. It's a coed. It's coed masonry. And Mormons are coed as well. So it's very interesting to me that all of that is accepted, and we do the same signs and tokens. These signs and tokens that I'm showing you, you have to know these to get past the handshakes, the secret handshakes. We have very similar ones, to masonry. You have to know them to get past the angels and sentinels to get to heaven, to the top heaven. They believe in 3. So, you know, all of this is done. And like I said before, works works works works works. Right? This is works. This is actually a real temple ceremony. Somebody snuck in and and got this on Google Glasses called new name Noah. Shout out new name Noah. He got in deep shit for it, but way to go. And I like to point out something.
When we're gonna talk about the OTO in just one second. Mhmm. And it's gonna be brief. But I want to remind people that it is newer than Mormonism. So Joseph Smith couldn't have got this from Aleister Crowley, as you notice the typhonian hand. Right. But but you know that these gods and their symbols have been there is nothing new under the sun. This comes from Babylon. This isn't just because people will say, well, that's to you know, Crowley came later. Crowley stole everything he did. Everything he did. Just like Hitler.
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Yes. Exactly. A lot a lot of people still think fast and say that there's a new thing. The thing is, is this something like and, Heidi, please please clear me up. Is this something like that some people think really that it's a nice and cool religion? But once they get in, they never ever gonna get out. Like, if you are in a 1% Michael Gang, let's say.
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Yeah. My grandpa. Yeah. Well, I mean, like I said, it's very difficult to leave. They do give you the chance even in the Mormon Temple ceremony to leave, but, like, your whole family is there, ma'am. Like, your whole family is there, and you're just and then and then if you do leave, I lost all of my extended family. They think I'm a heretic, you know. So you have to understand it comes at a price. Like I only have my mom and my dad, and he passed, and my brother, and he passed. So I have very few people. And even my husband's family that I would say, they tolerate me because they're all active LDS. You know, we are neither one of us want anything to do with this, you know. But he, again, is forgiven because he knows not what he does. He never made it the whole way. Whereas I did, and he accidentally let that cat out of the bag once. And ever since, it's been very difficult for me. Wow. So And you were living in, like, deep part of America.
Yes. Mormonism is is is still, like, a big thing, right, in Utah? Yes. Utah is, I would say they say it's half and half now, but come on. It's not. The Mormonism runs the state, you know, this state. And and the things that they don't know, these patronage people do not they do not understand. They are being hoodwinked, if I can use the best word. And and and they're doing this to such a degree that that they're, 1% people that run this state that do know they're harnessing it. I promise you. This is called the beehive state. They, talk about this being the land of milk and honey. They talk about, you know, being all all about the bees. That goes back to goddess worship too. Like, none of this stuff none of this stuff makes sense in a Christian denomination.
And so when when you're in there, and you're doing all this, you know, you wear these green aprons and they represent fig leaves. Okay? Well, there's a part in the ceremony where you get the apron and it's sitting by you, and and Satan comes. Satan's in the movie because Satan is, Lucifer is Jesus's brother according to the Mormons. Mhmm. Also, Jesus was born just like any other man, so they actually had sex to create him. They don't believe that that he was benevolent, but that, like, literally Mary got it on with, you know, and did the deed. And so very interesting, but they do believe in a mother in heaven, and they speak of mother in heaven. And I I'm having a new show come out with, Ed Mabry speaking all about just who is mother in heaven, because they say she's so holy they won't say her name. Well, that's really convenient when you're trying to hide things. Right? It's a very patriarchal order. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But when you get to the top, when you get to the tippy tippy top, and you get something called the second anointing.
The last part of the second anointing. A woman cannot hold the priesthood until she gets the second anointing. And once she gets the second anointing to seal the second anointing, you have to go home, not in the temple, to your marital bedroom sex magic all over the place in that you you know. Places have energy just like we said. So in your marital bedroom and she lays hands on your head instead of the other way around and seals that blessing. At the top of this whole thing, I truly believe they oppress women to then later harness the women that transform into goddesses in their in their eyes. Because it says, you will become gods and goddesses, priests and priestesses.
And that your place is made sure, and that you will now be going to heaven no matter what you do. No matter what you do, except murder. You can't murder. Well, at these top levels, once these people get this information, some of them go crazy. Like that guy I just told you that cut his sister in law's head off. Like, some of these people mentally are not prepared for the things because they are not doing what what normal magic practitioners do, which is step by step. There's a reason why these things. You know? You don't just throw somebody at the top. And But but it's it's something that comes up when you're thinking about secret societies,
[01:36:08] Unknown:
like criminal organized crime. And not not to be be be, offended against people, but there are some organizations that, have some rituals that you do not know when you enter them. Like, for example, like the 1 percenter, if you are with with some kind of group, you have to do some really shitty things to get in it and to be on it. Right? And if you wanna step out, there's no fucking way to gonna step out. You They kill you. They kill you. You. Yes. That's the other thing. My uncle my uncle tried to leave the Sundowners,
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and they one time found him. He had to flee for his life. They one time found him and tattooed him out because he did hold a really high position that they didn't kill him. But but I will tell you, he did not live long, very long after that. And, I'm just telling you guys, like, this kind of stuff, you don't understand it. You know not what you do. And I know what is happening here, because I've studied it. And I didn't even know anything. But these nice grandmas and grandpas are there in the temple, and here comes Satan and he says and Adam looks up and says, what is that? And he points to his apron which used to be a very masonic apron with, all, like, all the symbols on it. The all sing I and all the things. But they changed it because there was so much lapping their mouth about it to just a black one. And he answers and says this, this is a sign of my powers and priesthoods.
And then he says to Adam, you need one too. You should make one of fig leaves. And then everyone stands, they say, please stand and put on your apron. Why are we doing something the devil commands in the middle of a a god fearing place? In the middle of a god centered place? I'm not I'm not saying people can't do what they want. Even if you do get lied to, like you said about the 1 percenters, or like in the mob, You know deep you kind of know though that you're gonna have some price to pay, but you just don't know what. But even freemasonry, they, like, lied to you, but then but you kinda know that. That's why there's so many stories about being hoodwinked or whatever. Yes. So All it takes to
[01:38:29] Unknown:
all of these Yeah. Big organizations where you think that's something like secret society stuff, even CIA or whatever. I don't think you wanna get out if you want when you're in. Maybe you are getting in with the right purposes. Like, I wanna help people across the world and stuff like that. But once you're in, you're just basically screwed. You can't.
[01:38:51] Unknown:
And and on top of it, you are doing things that you don't understand. And that is huge, you know. You don't know who you're paying homage to. And again, to my point. Okay. We've got these mirrors in the temple, and they are called forever mirrors. And if you know anything about mirror magic, which by the way, Zachary King, he was an egg satanic wizard, told me in our interview together, the first magic I ever did was with Amir playing Bloody Mary. So you guys it's not just, kitty stuff basically. It's not. And this looks like a portal because they face the mirrors.
See how it goes on forever? Yeah. And they they do this on purpose. See how they're, facing one another, which is powerful. And, you know, people talk about this even in the in the medieval times, like covering mirrors, not facing them this way, you know, about them being portals. And you saw how it goes forever. Will you kneel over this altar, which God knows what's in it? Like, I don't even you know, the brother that died and they dug him up, well, what what do you think they did with the bones? Same thing with the other Joseph Smith and his brother, like, you know, the the current prophet is a bonesman. Like, I don't think that that their bones are where they say they are, in my opinion.
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And the same with the mirror thing with with the with the magic, like, candles and mirrors.
[01:40:21] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yes.
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And and mirrors can trap souls also. But, also That's right. Mortal to another dimension. People don't do not oh, it's just a mirror. Oh, fuck. No. Well No. No. There's a reason why they wanna hang it in every single house. Think about that. Getting married. You're getting married this day, supposedly
[01:40:42] Unknown:
being a virgin. Right? You haven't had sex because you're you're you're qualified to go in here. You have to be qualified to go in here. That you've done, you know, good things and haven't been having sex and all this stuff. So again, they know what's gonna happen that night when you go home because you're getting married. You're gonna make sex magic and you don't even know what you're doing. Like, you really don't. And they tell you to look into these mirrors and promise that you'll be married for time and all eternity. And so I just think that there's a lot going on there. Especially when you take into place, you know, you're not getting married in a tuxedo and, your wedding dress. You're getting married in that stuff I showed you with the green apron.
Yeah. And then you've got these on. You've got your magical underwear on. It's not like sexy shit. It's like No. No. It's not. No. It's a boxer shorts and a t shirt, and it's it's but it's got symbols, and here's something I think that is strange. It has the symbols, the square compass and ruler over things that have openings. Your nipples have openings. Your belly button has an opening. Now there isn't yes. And there isn't one in the crotch, so they say, but there's tons of seams, you know, all these seams in the panty area. If I zoom it in, you'll see like, look at all the seams. You could easily put a mark in there that nobody knew. Nobody.
[01:42:12] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. Why would you do that? And of Well It's like a it's like a talk. You know? If if you go in boxing, like, to protect your your your,
[01:42:23] Unknown:
your balls and stuff like that. Yeah. Yep. And they could easily slip it in in just like one of those tiny, portions where it comes together. The other seam I find very interesting is on the right knee. Well, they say it's because every knee shall bow for Jesus and God. But here's the thing, if you know anything about slavery and Egypt, what do they say? The slave will serve, and they bow. What about this whole take any shit for the NFL? You guys gotta be more paying attention to the things that they make us do. Because every yeah. Right. We're goyim. Do not forget that they they care less about us than bugs. I mean, literally. And so when you're talking about this, you know, it makes you wonder, are you channeling things and pledging to serve at the same time?
This is
[01:43:16] Unknown:
yeah. This is the They they perverted this so much that you don't even think about it. Pop music, pop culture, they do it nowadays. Every single thing that they do nowadays, it has a purpose to,
[01:43:32] Unknown:
us The changing of the megahertz. The changing of the Yes. The megahertz.
[01:43:36] Unknown:
432 to, 420. What is it? Purple, was in the in the early days, it was royal. But nowadays, if you go to a to a to a concert, it's black and red. Well Mhmm. What do you think that these colors are? It's not like the bright star. No. No. It's it's all, like, demonic kind of stuff. Yeah. It's dark. Even if you don't believe in
[01:44:03] Unknown:
God or or, Satan, you there's some part of people that have to believe in light and dark. And so when you're talking about that, like, there is not all these hoops to jump through for regular people. Like, come on. This is a lot. You know? This is like I mean, down to your damn underwear, people. This is a lot. And so they did don't wear any. There you go. Yeah. But they don't have any weird marks on them. I'm sure of that. And, you know, who knows what they're doing to them before they get to you? Are they praying over them? Are they doing some weird sigil? Who even knows? We don't know. We just know that they come do not realize that I was having a a, podcast with Joost, a Dutch guy about the light and the dark side. He was in both cults.
[01:44:53] Unknown:
People can give you, like, a lighter, but they they they had, like, magic over it. They put some intentions in this lighter or whatever Right. They're gonna give you. That's right. Never ever Coin. Yes. Coin. Exactly. Got goosebumps again. Thank you. Yes. Yes. It's crazy. Oh, this is so deep.
[01:45:15] Unknown:
They did update them for the first time ever and made them sleeveless. See how it's more of a a sleeveless than the cap sleeve, which is nice. But also women were having problems because you have to understand about these garments. You never take them off except they have to touch your bare skin. You have many pairs of them just like you do underwear. Like many many many pairs. So you take them off to change them out, like for the next day to shower, to go to the gym. They have allowed to go to the gym because you get very hot. And to make more Mormons. Right? To make more Mormons and bathe. So the thing is though, they have to come right back on. You have to put the right leg in first, the right arm in first. There's a certain way to take them off. And back when my grandma was young, they kept one leg in while they were in the tub and would just have the sopping wet garment on the floor. And you don't wash them with other clothes.
These are holy, and they have to touch your skin, and your bra goes over the top. If you wanna wear underwear, it has to go over the top. Like, you cannot yeah. You can't just, willy nilly be treating these like nothing. So why is that so important? It goes back to the fact that I wonder, are you carrying something with you? They say it's to guard you, to protect you, that it's a holy, you know, protection. Let's see. Fabric. What's it made of? Like cotton? Or There's many, many, many fabrics you can do. Most people don't do cotton anymore because it's so hot, but there's, like, spandexy type stuff now. They've upgraded them very much. Okay. And polyblend and nylon blend and So they've got I'm asking that because
[01:47:02] Unknown:
I I know a lot of unknown, not a lot of fabrics, but I know that a wool linen, and cotton have a very high frequency. But they they, frequent each other out when you are wearing, like, for for a girl, for example. Right. A skirt from from Leinen, and you have a a wooden sweater, it's gonna be 0. It's gonna be But these are often,
[01:47:30] Unknown:
mixed now with Lycra, which also has, like, the same correspondence on electricity as a dead person, and nylon, and and these all artificial fabrics because nobody wears the cotton ones anymore because they're hot. And they used to make a collie cotton poly blend. So they're always some kind of blend. And so I do wonder about the frequency of these. This is, an interesting picture. And I have to re I guess retract some things I've said in the past before. But this is one of the prophets of the church, Thomas S. Monson and baby Bush, and they're doing a secret handshake. And I used to think it was free masonic, but I I did talk to a mason, the other day. And he said, it's not close enough. So I started researching. This is actually a secret society handshake.
This is either for fraternities, certain secret societies. So it could be even deeper than that because we all know all the bushes are in Skull and Bones. All of them. Yeah. They're bonesmen. Yeah. I don't know if Thomas s Swanson was, and I have to try and find out. But it's interesting. Nonetheless, this is not a natural handshake.
[01:48:43] Unknown:
I mean, come on. They're talking. The way you look to each other, it seems like they they know some secrets from each other.
[01:48:51] Unknown:
Yes. And this is again the current prophet, and he is holding the keys to the kingdom. And it is literally the keys to the kingdom in apostle Peter's hand. This is in Rome. This is in Rome, Italy when they did the temple there. And I'll tell you what, they kept that on a hush because this has been done for I gotta put a picture of it. It's been done for years, and nobody said a damn word Wow. About I saw that directly when I saw the picture. First of all, this guy, this chap looks really good for 100 year old guy. Oh, for sure. But, also, he's doing a weird masonic grip on that key. Look at that closely. Yes. Yes. Mhmm. It's like harassing something that normally is a little bit more down button. Yep. Yep. He's pinching it in a specific way. Yeah. And I dare I dare say that I recognize that pretty quickly.
Now this is my favorite one to show, especially to someone like you that has some knowledge. So this sign here, the star at the bottom where it says Melchizedek priesthood, that is the high priesthood of the Mormon church. There is the Aaronic priesthood, and then there is the Melchizedek priesthood. And then men only can hold them. Only the men, until the women get the second anointing. But anyways, this is on the temple. As you can see it's specifically on the temple. Well, this is literally the mammon sigil or mammon. The yeah. In the later lesser and greater keys of Solomon.
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And I'll also see the star Identical.
[01:50:27] Unknown:
Yes. It's identical. It's the exact same one. And they can't put this symbol in there, obviously, because then people would like know it's something's up. Right? But why would you make something that is representing the God of money, right, as your priesthood most holy holy thing. Now that money has nothing to do with God. K. Actually, it's an abomination. It's abomination. So why would they do that? Well, they are one of the richest churches. I think they did that very purposely. And people just don't know what they're doing. We get back to that again.
[01:51:08] Unknown:
Can you go one slide back, please? Uh-huh. Yep. Because what I figured out, if you see the, the triangle, on the mammon sigil, the upside down triangle is, the opposite of fire, which is water. So it's currency.
[01:51:26] Unknown:
Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. So And it does not it does not surprise me. And, also, remember what I said about having the circle around? That means they're controlling the demon, or the god, or angel, whatever. But they don't have the circle. Right? There is no circle, which means what? They're working directly with this spirit. We'll just call it spirit.
[01:51:51] Unknown:
And Oh, that makes also much sense.
[01:51:54] Unknown:
Yes. And, also, for them to hide it in plain sight, I bet that that this gives them so much you know, they're probably just laughing their asses off. I mean Yes. And they hate it when they're listening to us talking about it and figuring things out. Yes. That's right. And then I get called out and called all kinds of names, but I don't really care because I'm I'm a bringer of truth, and that truth to me does not matter what religion you are. You deserve to know the truth that are out there that are older than religion. Some of these things are older.
[01:52:29] Unknown:
And I like to say with with my podcast, I like to bring up some subjects that you maybe think about and maybe you dive into and make your own plausible truth. Yes. Yes. And that's so important in this world. You know? Yes. A lot of people that are looking or or listening to some shit, they can't back it off. Although there are so much, things been that you can write or that you can read, that you can look at. But Mhmm. You know, people don't do that. People are people are lazy. But in the mean For sure. Meanwhile, they're just been, you know
[01:53:10] Unknown:
Well, they want you busy. What it is is and you know what? There's no one busier than a Mormon. Let me tell you what. You got 6 kids. You're everybody has 6 kids. They really recommend having children. And what does that go back to? Again, you're paying homage every time you have childbirth to that mother in heaven. I bet a1000000 on it. But here's the thing, they also are super obsessed with certain things like genealogy. And Mhmm. All of our genealogy to these, 23andme and ancestry.com things started actually from another company.
It is a company well, a website, but it comes from the Mormon church. They started this first. Yes. And and this dumps into their website, dumps into these websites, and the way they get away with it is they say, we don't own that. What are you talking about? We own familysearch.org. We didn't do that. We what? We we're innocent in the corner. Okay. Well, you're giving all your records to everybody else, and they have many, many records. But I always am watching for certain things, and you know how your phone algorithm knows. So the day p Diddy got arrested, this popped up on my phone. And I took a screenshot of it. And it says, Anne Warchiki of 23 and me, all of her board, every single person on the board resigned on the day p Diddy got arrested.
[01:54:39] Unknown:
Oh, shit.
[01:54:41] Unknown:
So I was like, who's this lady? Like, who's this Anne Warchicki? And her her history is very interesting, but her sister is even more interesting because her sister was the CEO of YouTube until her untimely death the month before of a sudden rapid cancer, and she was only 50 something. Oh. And and her son committed suicide right before that. So whenever you have a trail of death, you should probably follow it. You know, it's interesting to me that it just happened to happen. People are like, well, it's just a coincidence because she was, gonna go under, and it was gonna go bankrupt. And I'm like, uh-huh. Oh. Oh,
[01:55:21] Unknown:
nothing is coincidence. It's actually not at these higher ranks.
[01:55:26] Unknown:
I do a whole episode. Well, I did one on p Diddy and the connections that I found. And funny enough, wouldn't you know it, all of them were connected. Big, big actors like ash Ashton Kutcher and different things. They were all involved in save the children type things, but they all included genealogy. And and, like, uploading your kids' DNA and all these weird things. And I'm just, like, I don't buy it, guys. Like,
[01:55:52] Unknown:
I I I'm sorry. There there's fucker fuckery about. Right? Yes. I when you when you go back to his slides with the schedule, you see the the the the symbol of yes. In the middle, you see the symbol of Venus or the symbol of, vagina also.
[01:56:08] Unknown:
Once again, paying homage to what? The thing that they hide. The hidden secret is Yeah. Is that this all goes back to more of a womanly goddess worship than it really does about men. Not that they don't include it, and if you've ever met a Mormon guy or a Mormon high up person, they teach them some things that are interesting. Go watch a little tiny clip of Mormon LDS conference. You'll hear they they talk like women. They talk in a sing song voice. It's almost mesmerizing. It's like and it's very effeminate. And it used to bother me so much when I was a kid. I just think I've always been a little bit different because of my family and the bikers and stuff. I was always like, this is weird. I don't like this. This is feminine. You know? I don't like it. Like, I date guys that are very like, my husband now. He he works in a mine. You know, like, hardcore guys, you know. And, you know, I just don't like stuff like that, basically, because it it's pushed on you from your youth. It's this way, like a doctor, like a lawyer, like, they they're very, professionally almost effeminate sometimes. Not all of them, but, many. And and it's very strange. But I, again, go back to the goddess worship on a lot of that because why? They hold the priesthood. Well, what did Asherah surround herself with?
Men. Castrated men.
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Castrated men. Mhmm. So not like, which was the the the the old lady? Come on. Oh.
[01:57:49] Unknown:
Many of the women had their, their people and queens. They always were these castrated men that formed their courts. Why weren't they just women? Why weren't they just women? You know? Makes you wonder. Who's pulling energy from who as well? Exactly. So this is where all of those records that I told you about just a minute ago are stored in Utah. This is called the granite genealogical vaults. They literally blew out the side of a mountain to put their stuff in there, and this is like Fort Knox. You there's one road in, one road out. It's very small. It you cannot get to it. There's razor wire everywhere. It is protected like Fort Knox, and I'm not they literally blew a hole in a mountain to do this. And they're they look at the side of the mountain.
[01:58:44] Unknown:
Holy shit.
[01:58:45] Unknown:
Yeah. And they say that there's over 3,000,000,000 with a b, genealogical records in there. And it isn't just of Mormons, you guys. Anybody that they put in their little baptism font, like Hitler and the Jews that I told you about and all these people, they're in there too. And people say what store that? Well, they have the deets on everybody. Why would they store that? So we get into some weird questions. Right? Like Wow.
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Mormons. 35. Trust you. They
[01:59:21] Unknown:
They believe in, living forever. Now I will say this association is not directly related with the LDS church. However, they the ideas come from them. Really, they say what? Eternal life. You will be married for eternity, you will become a god, blah blah blah blah blah. Right? So this again is one hallway, just one tiny hallway in their giant freaking granite thing in the side of the mountain. Holy shit. Yeah. This gets crazy. Look at how they're shaped like, a letter box. They're not big like a file box. They're small like a letter, like an envelope.
And when I look at these, I often wonder because in 1962, something started in America that they started requiring something called a PKU test. I gotta add a slide for this. But the PKU test, curiously enough, is a blood test that every baby has to have that's born in a hospital period. Anywhere in America or even if it's accidentally born at home, their first baby visit, they're gonna get this done. And this is supposedly to test for a milk allergy. And so all of this work for this milk allergy, okay, that can make people handicapped. Cool. I'm saying that the stats on the PKU business are very small. There is not that many people that actually had this disease for them to go to this length.
Right? This is a very big length of testing every human being period. And I'll tell you what they do. About the size of a dime, there is 5 little bubbles on this card and they prick your heel, and then they fill those bubbles up and they send them off to, I don't know where, to the government. They have litmus paper and they have it bleeds through to multiple copies of this. I believe a total of 3 copies of this. Why would you need so many, first of all? 2nd of all, it is a perfect medium to store that blood forever forever.
And why is this box shaped identically to it? I mean, like a letter. It's very curious to me, and I'm not saying that it is or is not. I just find it curious. And I do think that with their their ancestry stuff, with their genealogical stuff, with everything that I've told you, I just, also with all of like, here from my house in Northern Utah, I have within 40 mile radius of me, the supercomputer storage that that all everything downloads to all information that goes in any computers downloads up here. I have a CIA building. I have a FBI building. That building, the supercomputer building that stores all the files, that's the FBI one. There's another FBI recruitment one. And then we have the IRS, the NSA, and an air force base.
[02:02:23] Unknown:
Wow. You need a big magnet. Yeah. Computers can figure out what magnets. They they they go blind. They go off. But the thing is odd. If you look at the the transhumanism agenda of, Klaus Schwab and his and his criminal friends Yes. They want, like, a population of 500,000,000 people. That's what they say. So what if they store, like, data as they do now? And and let like, picking out the cherries of the best humans with the genes, and maybe eventually can make new humans. Like, oh, we have Adolf Hitler's. Oh, yeah. There you got it. Oh, well Don't forget. Don't forget that they were very racist
[02:03:13] Unknown:
until 1978. Black people could not go to heaven according to the Mormon church, that they would always be a slave and a servant to the white man. Do not forget that they also believed all brown people also had a curse. They also are not, well, there's actual. I'm doing a little deep dive on Hitler right now. And Hitler once said, let me find it. How much he loved Mormons because he loved the way that they were picking through their lineage, basically. Because they kept it so white and delights them. Mhmm.
[02:03:49] Unknown:
And we see now a picture of Lorenzo Snow with which was the 5th president of the LDS church. And he quotes, as humanity now is, god once was. As god now is, humanity may become. Well, that that suits perfectly in that what I said just before what Yep. Trying to do.
[02:04:14] Unknown:
Absolutely. So don't forget that also Joseph Smith once claimed that he was related to Jesus Christ himself, which means there's a bloodline if he thinks that. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that has been speculated often. Right? Like by multiple people about the bloodline of Jesus, and that he possibly had a family. But he does say this, God was once as we are now, and is now an exalted person, who sits enthroned in yonder heavens. And that is the great secret. And he died shortly after this sermon. Wow. So, you know, do I think it was, you know, just by chance? I mean, he was letting a lot of cats out of the bag. Right? He wasn't exactly, keeping things to himself.
[02:05:00] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Could like back and, the pentagram and stuff like that.
[02:05:05] Unknown:
Exactly. And what did they tell Mormons all to breed a whole bunch of kids, but yet they used to have a one drop rule that if you even had one drop of black person's blood in you, you could not go to heaven. So I'm just saying, of course, Hitler loved the Mormons. Yeah. They have the same agenda. So it does worry me, like you said, about picking creams of the crop. If you come to Utah, you will see more redheads and blond headed people than anywhere you probably ever seen.
[02:05:34] Unknown:
Oh, wow. I would think that would be Welsh.
[02:05:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. And there is some darker people, but, yeah, these are very fair. I'm like a very white, skinned person. Like, very fair people, a lot of green eyes, a lot of blue eyes, a lot of really light people. You know? And I find that interesting. We have a ton of redheads here. I I find that interesting. Like, we just have a different community.
[02:06:02] Unknown:
And, you know, people say, well, that's inbreeding and polygamy. Okay. No. I think the redheads, for me as a European guy, redhead redheads like Ireland, Welsh, which is well, not collected. Ireland is a is a is a is an island itself. But, of course, you got Welsh and you got, Britain. Yes. When you go back, like, I think it's in the Da Vinci Code. They track down, like, Jesus had ancestors because he may love people. And there's a sister Mary, which is one of the bloodlines traced back to England.
[02:06:39] Unknown:
Now he had many come. Yes. Many people that came here including my family members were of multiple of those dissents. Both English, French, a little bit of French, a little bit of German, a little bit of everything. Right? These are people that came from these places including Welsh. And Welsh was one of the biggest ones. And so he this is a direct quote from Adolf Hitler. The Mormon is the highest of the Ubermensch. For their religion is against I can't say that word. It would make Europe basically mixing blood. It would make Europe a continent full of your of Mormons. I most certainly would if I could, Adolf Hitler.
[02:07:23] Unknown:
Wow.
[02:07:25] Unknown:
So when you're talking about this, and there is a book out about this called Moroni and the Swastika. And, there are multiple prophets and presidents of the church that actually supported Hitler. In fact, after the world war was over, one of the main people that sent help over to Germany or the Germans was the LDS church. So Wow. I don't put it past them to be creating and excluding certain blood bloodlines. Why do they need all that genealogy? You're right.
[02:08:00] Unknown:
Why indeed? Yeah. And they were creating the Romansh. You know? Yes. If we have to, believe history because that's also a part of me nowadays that that is very skeptic about what what they say and what's the truth. But as as as I have ancestors from Germany, Right. Country, White Rail. There's some some things that I really can relate to. Like, if you have, like, an a good ideology, not not with killing other people, but with, like Mhmm. What they do now with the transhumanism agenda 2045. There you got 45 again. It it was 100 years ago when there was World War 2 about transhumanism of the Ubermensch.
Wake the fuck up, people. I mean, I'm just a, a country boy from the Netherlands, from Europe, and I can fix these points just like that together. Why can't we all do that? But the thing
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is we are
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so so, Halo basically tried to make an areas Aryan race, which is very strong and and wouldn't be, let's say, polluted by other races or other, diseases and stuff like that. That that's what Klaus Schwab wants to do. He could be his his grandfather.
[02:09:29] Unknown:
He could be an SS guy. Just be all I think he is. Here's my question to you. Like, what if it isn't about people being white? What if that was just about one thing? And I'll tell you what I think it is, is what about the fact that they may have figured out what the Nephilim, their bloodline was? Because the Nephilim, if you remember in the bible when Noah was born, they were scared of Noah because he was utterly white. And they said we think he's a fallen angel. And they were scared of him because he was exceedingly pale and exceedingly white.
And they were worried about this. Now the original man, Adam, okay? Adam means ready of the the dirt. Okay? And ready of the color. Yes. And it's a color, and it and it isn't pale or white. What if and this is just a conjecture. The wiping out of brown people, and it is an utter, like, you can go anywhere. They get here, it's native Americans. Wipe out the native Americans. They get here, it see slavery, wipe out the black people. They get here I mean, they're constantly, you know, sacrificing these people even in my end days. Like like, find the whitest one that was the better one. Right? Like, all these things before the white man even showed up on the scene. So why was that? Maybe they saw something that was speaking to them like these native American tribes that say these indigo children are made by what? A god coming down and sleeping with these virgin girls and making these babies.
So what if it is a gene that they have isolated? And guess what else I found when I was researching some things and this conjectured bloodline of the Nephilim. They have the actual DNA code they say, And one of the the traits for that is exceedingly pale, exceedingly light. Also the fact that they can tolerate milk for all of their life. They are never lactose intolerant. Now what was the test I just told you about? It had to do with milk. Now what if they're trying to procure that because Hitler was not just looking for whiteness, he was measuring people's canine teeth.
Why do you have canines and some people don't? Well, at what point did carnivores come into our bloodline and make some of us have more prominent carnivore features. Right? The original man didn't need that. He was eating, you know, vegetables in the Garden of Eden. He didn't need those. So they they were doing a lot of things that don't make any sense as far as, like, just race alone. Like, not just white, black, brown. It didn't make any sense. Why teeth? Why this? Why that? But here they are. I definitely wonder if they knew about, you know, what that race was, and are they doing that now? Like think of test 2 babies. Think of all kinds of things. And I do a whole presentation on this, and and how I feel the brave new world of America was infiltrated at that time, because they were ordering babies through the mail. And also, we had a ton of kids here that we didn't know what the hell to do with them all. Right. And putting them the orphan trains and the babies that doctor Cooney and the the little preemie babies and the incubator babies. Yes. This is a cure curious thing. Why save these babies if we have so many kids that we can't we don't even know what to do with them. They're going to work at 5, and they're all out in the streets. Why would you save babies that would naturally pass away on their own?
Why do we have things like Tulum and and finding in, you know, these Catholic places, 100 upwards of 800 infant babies, and people are like, well, that was from the women and they just aborted them or whatever. No. A woman can only have one baby a year. 1. Maybe I mean, twins or triplets, but come on. Like, it's rare. And back then, even more rare. My conjecture is what if the reason why we know so much about test tube babies and know so much about all of this stuff, and actually, it's been nothing new under the sun. Look up Diana of Ephesus. They've known about this stuff for a long time. Oh, it's Impure. Yeah. Indy will tell you that they figured this out long ago.
But what if these were, you know, the mistakes? Like, why did we used to have so many deformed people in the world and now we don't? Vitamins? Okay. Well, our food is lacking nutrition. Our food is lacking everything nowadays. They at least have that. But, like, they'll say diseases, they'll say this, they'll say that. But, like, honestly, when you look at it, we're bigger, we're taller, we're, you know and America specifically gets hit with certain things that everybody else kinda doesn't. Like, certain diseases, like, that they, you know, it makes you wonder. It really does when you step back away from it and you go,
[02:14:47] Unknown:
like, what if? I'm just saying it's just Right. Off. So it could be fabricated, but it could also be, like, if you have too many rabbits in a forest, you're gonna have mixed doses. So like a disease. Right? So I think that we are very capable of of, ruining our own lives with the stuff that we're doing. Because just like you pointed out, the food is poison, that the air is poison, the water is poison. If you're living in a city, you're fucked. No matter what happens, if you are in the city, you're fucked. You can go out. When shit hits the fan, look at all the disasters. If it's gonna be tsunami, if it's gonna be a power, outlet, whatever the fuck it is. If you are in a city, you are screwed.
[02:15:36] Unknown:
Yeah. And and it makes you wonder, like, are they meddling with genetics? Are they isolating things like when they sent all these certain people to America for their religious freedom? Did they hand select these people and make sure and of course, you can't say, well, no to the Italian guy down the road, because it looks sketchy. Right? Let looks bad. So but you would know where they are if you're the freemason guy that ran the orphan trains, which he was by the way. And I'm like, you know, it's very curious to me all of these children.
Like, where the hell are they all coming from? Where they need to be? Something in me. You just trigger something. Like,
[02:16:22] Unknown:
10, 15 years ago, if I was walking down the street, I could probably a little bit figure out what I am walking upon, what what country, what the people look like. Mhmm. Then all of a sudden, when I walk down the streets, now they're just like, where the fuck do these people come from? How do they react? How are they not humans in my perspective? Not not that I'm a different human, but they they it's like there are too many people that are not in this in the good spot of of the city. Right. You know what I'm trying to say here?
[02:17:05] Unknown:
Like, NPCs in a game. You know? Like, these people Yes. Yeah. These people But he but he accidentally
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hit the enter button too much time. Like Mhmm. In the early days, it was maybe 1 or 2 people on the train that like, oh, they're they're they're not these nonplaying characters. But nowadays, you're just like, oh, shit. Somebody fucked it up.
[02:17:28] Unknown:
Yep. And maybe that was what 2020 was all about. Like, maybe that was a big, you know, calling calling of of people for a specific reason. You know? And they had to make all the antennas to,
[02:17:43] Unknown:
this is just just conspiracy Ramble thought. You know? They had to make all these antennas in 2020 when when when shit hit the fan 2020. Because, otherwise, they they what they did is with some people, they're just like, drop dead in the street. Yeah. Probably they were out of reach of their battery and their whatever.
[02:18:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Well and it's very it's very concerning if you look at the, proportions of people that got hit with with 2020 difficulty is they were a lot of brown people and a lot of black people were hit with it extra hard. And even Bill Gates' wife, when she came out with the whole cure for it, she was so creepy when she said, and give it to the black people first because they deserve it the most. And the way she said it, though, was weird. It was like, they deserve it. Like, it wasn't like, they deserve it. You know? They're better. No. It was weird. There wasn't a
[02:18:42] Unknown:
Hillary's skeleton. I mean, Hillary Clinton.
[02:18:45] Unknown:
Right. No. It was Bill Gates' life, and it was scary. And I I've I'm just saying, like, this all this stuff, like, makes you wonder certain things. Like, you know, is there not enough people awake because they're literally programmed, or are they tainted, or were they tainted at birth? Like, who even knows? Like, who even knows? You know? And it's a scary situation, but I'll tell you. I I think someday we're gonna know. Just like the Tuskegee event sounds crazy back then, now we know. We know. And so this is kind of my last thing and the last conjecture I have on spirits in the temple. This is on the temple, and it's on many temples. But if you notice, you know, the pentagram isn't necessarily evil in it. No. But it is very nice symbol, but when it's
[02:19:29] Unknown:
upside down Mhmm. But the pentacle the pentacle
[02:19:39] Unknown:
is encased in a seal here. This is again, we're getting back to seals. So what if one is bringing things in? Remember, we talked about, you know, invoking and bringing spirits in through mirrors in different ways. Right. All these things, and one is locking them in there.
[02:20:00] Unknown:
Oh, shit.
[02:20:02] Unknown:
That makes you really question when they have been doing so much work and they push it on people. They say you should go to the temple as much as you can even multiple times a day. It takes 2 hours of time for each person. So Right. A day. Each time they go to our session. Yes. For each dead person. And so you are literally having Mormon people spend like, that are retired, like every single day there. And so I'm curious, you know, what just what if they are using all of this energy, Rab, including dead people? Like, I mean, it's concerning. You know?
[02:20:43] Unknown:
Yes. But that's the link I got directly because it's it's it's witchcraft, like the the the magic with the k. Mhmm. It's the dark side. So a bow well, he got he he or she or whatever got a lot of names, but the goat, you know, Baphomet. Mhmm. So if you Crazy. Yes. It's really crazy. And especially if you are leaving your own identity as who you are, your name as a dead person. You're gonna have a new name.
[02:21:20] Unknown:
You do have a new name as well. You do even get another new name in the temple for yourself. Exactly. That's what I'm trying to say. So you leave the dead
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entity, but you're still there as a flash and
[02:21:33] Unknown:
fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's scary because not only do you do that, as a representation of a dead person, but you also get a new name when you go through for yourself the first time. It's your heavenly name. And so, yeah, that happens too.
[02:21:50] Unknown:
Wow.
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And so, you know, all of these things, and you're never supposed to reveal that name ever until you die. And your husband doesn't ever tell you his, but you tell him yours because you are saved by your husband's priesthood. Oh. And so yeah. And and again, like I said, like, minus the patriarchal part, it doesn't bother me as much as the lies. But this whole religion is something different than what they say that it is. And when they are are trying to say this, all this, we're just like every other Christian. We believe in, you know, God the fa but we believe in 3 separate ones. But but but but it goes all the way down the line and it makes you really question things. And I'm like, you know, I I don't really care, Mormons. Like, if you want to do all these things, then come out with it with the truth. You can still keep your secrets, some secrets, and say, we are not just Christian. We actually, started out with a cultic Solomonic magic. Right? Like, at least be honest. I mean Right.
Yeah. It's just it's crappy.
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But but if if you do that, all the other religious
[02:23:03] Unknown:
with with the same thing. You know? Right. Then, you know, that's one big fuck up. And Wow. Part of it, you stepped into that fucking lie. That's that's the thing they do. Exactly. Because the Catholics too. What? What Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. They worship yeah. They worship a mother in heaven. They worship Mary. They call her the queen of heaven. Like, all these things, like you said, like, they have perverted the Bible. Yeah. And the Bible, if it wasn't really
[02:23:33] Unknown:
important, why would they give a shit? They wouldn't. Right. If if Jesus The thing is that we we we are in a group like gods on the spectrum on Telegram. We we are very special people that say that with a disability and ability. Let's Yeah. But we we are, talking a lot about this kind of stuff. And, so if you look at Abrahamic religions, we which were probably 2 1000 years ago invented by someone with an intention to write down some shit. Over more than, 125 years or longer, several authors that I would say if you looking to a movie with several directors and several screenwriters, you're gonna be seeing a very fucked up movie. Mhmm. But so we go back to Mormonism Mormonism oh, I hate that word.
You're good. Is, like, 200 years basically old.
[02:24:33] Unknown:
Mhmm. But it is a hermetic. It is hermetic. It Right. They they want to lie. And the thing about it is is even Joseph Smith has been told saying, there are people that live on the moon. And Brigham Young, his his successor said there are people that live on the sun. What what the hell are you trying to tell me it's not hermetic?
[02:24:54] Unknown:
You're full of shit. Although your hermetic laws are very fascinating. And they're not all bad, but he but that's still not Christian. Yeah. They're not but may you have someone like, like a guy like Crowley, which was like the most wicked man in the world. And I think he's very fascinating, not not because he he's like that dark, but he figured out so many things like Jesus did, like Yes. So many religions and so many belief systems. I think it's really fascinating. And I think that if you dealing into that kind of stuff and it's really interested you, that you're gonna Mhmm. You know, do some stuff about it. Well, maybe it was imparted on him just like this knowledge was imparted on Joseph by a fallen angel
[02:25:44] Unknown:
when he ran into Ewas, you know. It's very curious that later in life, he actually said that Ewas was a liar. And that he regretted writing the book of the law, which is one of his best works according to people, you know. I'm looking at the,
[02:26:00] Unknown:
the book or the cover, just on the right right side of you,
[02:26:07] Unknown:
which is a man with a beer. Is is that room? No. John Dee. John Dee. John Dee. That oh, that's John Dee? John Dee. Yes. K. The Queen's Conjurer. And there's some really good books about him. And so, also another one, by Jason Louve, l o u v e, I think. And he has a really good book too. Is it a joke? This one's also I think so. I would love to he's an occultist. He's an occultist, and he wrote the book. He's probably one of these guys from from Weevilsberg from from Hemelary. Yeah. Maybe so. But it's very interesting. And they all talk about this angel stuff, and not all angels are bad. I'm not saying that. Like, I'm not saying, like, throw the baby out with the bath water. But some of these things, they're lies. You know?
I mean, we can't know being on this earthly planet field, like, what is truth and what is not, but I do think some of this stuff was imparted like a download onto these people like Crowley, like Joseph Smith, like Mohammed. How did they get that much information? There's just no way. You know?
[02:27:09] Unknown:
That's fascinating because I was doing, a retreat or retreat in Peru just like 3 3 strongs ago as I prefer to say. And I met mother Ayahuasca. And, people would say it's a spirit. I saw some visuals. Like, not not too much. Not not like we see each other right now, but I saw some stuff that, the Shipiba, Indians draw down on on on fabrics and stuff like that. Really fascinating. You see that stuff. But you are basically connecting to, spiritual realm. And we we're thinking like, or we're now into the the second dimension. We go to the 3rd. We go to the 5th. Whatever the fuck. I think there are much, much more of them. And one should dig into with maybe some magic, black magic Mhmm. Or with some, psychedelics.
Because at that time, they had psychedelics too. Or maybe throughout prayer or meditation. You could just touch base on some of these entities that are also here, but you can't see them right now.
[02:28:25] Unknown:
Right. Well, the Jewish people actually say doctor Justin Sledge, I, went on had him on from Esoterica, the channel Esoterica, which he is a doctor of Esoterics and Esoteric study. And he literally said that the Jewish people would rather speak to a demon any day of the week. They are surrounding us if we could see that we are like, there are tons and tons and tons of them. And they said that the reason why they would rather speak to a demon is because they're somewhat controllable, whereas an angel is militant. When you're talking to an angel, if you say, okay, Gabriel, I wanna stop drinking and never drink again. And the angel will say, are you sure about that? And he'll say, yes. I wanna be sober forever. And then they put you in jail for the rest of your life. Right. But it gives you a hard time.
Yeah. And and and then you're just, you know yeah. You're sober, but now you're in prison. Like, great. Cool.
[02:29:21] Unknown:
Yeah. They Be careful. Careful. That's that's one of the things that I really learned. And a lot of our words are spells. I pronounce that a lot of times in my podcast. Be careful what you say. What you you were doing the the presentation. We we talked about it before. What they say that's good could be a a very bad intention, but you are like Lucifer. Lucifer is the line bearer. What's what's wrong with that? You never know. You never know. Know. And and and, you know, and and it it really fascinates me, and I really liked your presentation, Heidi. And I think,
[02:29:58] Unknown:
I connect a little bit more dots. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they don't call it spelling for nothing, guys. Oh, exactly.
[02:30:05] Unknown:
It's like what I say. Like, the a few of them, I wanna share with you. Like, you are not the mommy or the mom of 6 children. You are the mother. Mhmm. You're not wrapped around in, whatever in Egypt dying, stuff. There's a father, not a dad. Mhmm. I mean, these are just like stupid things that you say almost every single day. Hi, dad. How are you doing? Well, pretty dad.
[02:30:38] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:30:40] Unknown:
Like, good morning. That's why I don't like to say, I got weekdays. You know, what what did you do next week? I'm not doing next week. I'm good doing next strong motherfuckers. I don't have Stop. I have strong ends.
[02:30:54] Unknown:
Right. Right. Yep. We have to be careful. Yeah. Intention is everything. And it's a very
[02:31:00] Unknown:
interesting language because a lot of people a lot of people all over the world are pronouncing these words in the ether.
[02:31:08] Unknown:
Well, do you notice? I don't know in the Netherlands if this happened, but this happened here in America. My son started coming home as a teenager, and he's like, that's so funny. I'm dead. And I'm like, don't say that. And he's like and it it went like wildfire. Everybody says it now. If it's funny, really, really funny, like, I got you good, like, I got you. They say I'm dead, and they send a skeleton. I'm like, do not send that to me. Don't don't say that over your life. Don't pronounce death over your your life. Like, you are cursing yourself every single time you do this. You know? Not fulfilling prophecy.
Yeah. I'm like, do not say that.
[02:31:46] Unknown:
I don't like that. It may yeah. I think, Heidi, that that's something that's the program that's running in the background with the, pop culture, with all the bands that come out, with all the the solo artists, with the red and all that stuff. Look. I got purple. How? Yeah. The pronunciation street would see motherfuckers.
[02:32:06] Unknown:
Yep. The pronunciation of death over their lives is is really drastic. You know? Yeah. And I don't like that. And, mine is green. My favorite is green. Oh, good. What's it is? My mic is green. Yes. There you go.
[02:32:22] Unknown:
Heidi, I will not let you go before you're gonna ask, answer me 14 questions. I how do I do that? So That's I I think I I should 80 episodes in, and I still do not know what these are. Well, I know them, but I want to be 100% sure. Otherwise, my ADHD taking in and stuff like that. I have it too. So Okay. Good. Good. Good. Okay. And I'm gonna pronounce them in in a in a slightly different way because, otherwise, you're gonna have the the real hard ones just upfront.
[02:33:00] Unknown:
That's okay. I don't mind.
[02:33:03] Unknown:
Alright. Bring it on. Right. Are you are you ready? What's your favorite color?
[02:33:09] Unknown:
Green.
[02:33:10] Unknown:
Yes. You you pronounce that alright. What's your favorite music?
[02:33:14] Unknown:
Oh, I am a collector of musical, things. I I like everything. I like but I will say if I'm gonna listen to something, it has to have a fast tempo. Fast tempo. I don't like slow.
[02:33:27] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:33:28] Unknown:
I'm a hip I'm an old hip hop head too. So Oh, wow. Yeah.
[02:33:34] Unknown:
I think that you you said that your, your husband was a great, big fan of Queensryche?
[02:33:41] Unknown:
He loves every anything that is like any kind of metal, any kind of music. He's he's goes from Grateful Dead to, like oh, boy. He's all over the place. He goes to hair bands. Yeah. He loves the all music. I love that shit. Rush Rush is his favorite band, probably.
[02:34:01] Unknown:
Oh, we had this, this album from Rush, which oh, fuck. It's it's a story Rush. And there's a great video clip with it. And it's, sorry, snake turned how to love you, man, but I I can't. Oh, I gotta figure it out because it's really something something that Rush did. And I 100%, I got it on my favorites. So rush. Right? And then it's Yeah. Yeah. The new gold, I think it
[02:34:41] Unknown:
is. Makes sense. Makes sense. They have some good ones. I really they have some some really good music. No. Here it is. I'm all over.
[02:34:49] Unknown:
2,112. That's the album.
[02:34:53] Unknown:
Oh, 2012. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's his favorite too. I don't know how to pronounce it. Yeah. Yeah. That's his favorite also. So yep. He loves 2012.
[02:35:02] Unknown:
Okay. What's your favorite, movie or series?
[02:35:07] Unknown:
Oh, man. Movie. Like, right now because it's Christmas time. Right? The family stone. But I also really love I love all Christmas view movies in general. So I'm I'm a big Christmas movie dork.
[02:35:22] Unknown:
What's your favorite book?
[02:35:24] Unknown:
Books are let me think. Something that I actually like to read and don't have to read. The bible.
[02:35:33] Unknown:
Okay. What's your favorite, drink?
[02:35:38] Unknown:
Pepsi. I am I I've got a serious problem.
[02:35:44] Unknown:
Oh. Oh. It is to say that Pepsi drinkers do not like Coca Cola and the other way around.
[02:35:51] Unknown:
I like Coke, but I prefer Pepsi, but I limit myself to 1 a day because they're not good for you. Or, you know, they're not. Yeah. Me me me. But I will say other countries, they're way better. In Italy, the little ones, they only give you the little ones. Right. But they're so much better that that's all you really need anyway. They're great. I think they've They've favor it down to every single country. They they do less artificial
[02:36:17] Unknown:
sugars and stuff for you guys. Is is so they have regulations with with Pepsi and all that stuff? So much better. That stuff because I don't drink that stuff. The only thing when I drink when I drink Coca Cola, it will be, on the side with the, Jack Daniels because it's a Lammy from Lammy Kilmister from Motorhead. Up you are in Heaven, mister, or wherever you are. But, if you say that to me, like, I would like to have a a Coke or Pepsi. I would think about
[02:36:48] Unknown:
a line of Coke with a Pepsi. Yeah. They I mean, that that's a good one too. A good combination too. I mean, but Yeah. There you go. Oh. On the bands too since we got off track. I even though I love hip hop, like, some of my other favorites are, like, Nirvana, dirty heads. I love the dirty heads. I don't know. Dirty head. I don't know if I'm gonna find them. They're really great. Dirty heads are great. They're like a reggae rap compilation. I really like them. I go to their concerts every single year.
[02:37:16] Unknown:
So So so if you like a little bit, up volume and stuff like that, check out Yeah. I think it's really funny. The here we got it. Funny again, Rob. The, Shaolin Afronauts. Oh, okay. It's it's uptempo most of the time, and it's a really fascinating for me quite quite music. I like to listen to them. Awesome. Where are we? Okay. So what's your favorite food?
[02:37:44] Unknown:
Oh, boy. I love food. Let's see. Probably a really good pasta or soup. Like, it has to be homemade, though. It can't be Pasta. I homemade everything. So yeah. Oh,
[02:37:58] Unknown:
wow. Is is that a little bit of the Italian menu?
[02:38:03] Unknown:
No. I don't have any. I don't have any. I tell this. But I do love it. Right? Maybe that. I think it's and I love I love to have anything that's, like, from scratch. I mean, I just think cooking is kind of a lost art anymore. That's my son said to me the other day, I I'm always gonna be thankful because you taught me how to cook. And I'm like, good. 100%.
[02:38:23] Unknown:
100%. It's it's it's like just like you said, a lost art.
[02:38:28] Unknown:
Yeah. I love cooking.
[02:38:30] Unknown:
And real cooking totally like to wear the most.
[02:38:33] Unknown:
Anything that's soft. I hate scratchy, stiff, yucky feeling clothes. It has to have some kind of stretch in it or something like it. Even jeans, even the jeans, like, they have to be comfy enough. But I still like to look nice. You know? But I love the color red, and I love the color green when I'm wearing clothes just because I have green eyes. So But helps. Them 2 together is like Not together. Together. No. But I'm not your typical girl. Like, I don't like wearing you'll never see me in anything hot pink. This is about as pink as I get. Oh, wow. You look. I don't like it. Beige. Right? What's it called? Yeah. Like, a beigey pink. And then I like blues or like, most of my closet, my kids laugh and say, you look like you're from New York because it's grays and black. And I don't wanna go well, whatever.
[02:39:23] Unknown:
Okay. I got the last, well, easiest question. Then I got a few that's that's designed. So, what's your favorite holiday destination?
[02:39:34] Unknown:
Oh my gosh. Holidays, I like to be home, but I will say, like, traveling wise, I really loved when I went to Paris because I thought I would love Italy more, but the history is so just both places, it's just mind boggling. Like, it's it's literally so beautiful. Like, seeing all the relics and stuff, it's crazy. I don't know. It was beautiful. It's it's I did get to see Notre Dame before it burned down. So Oh, wow. Before it burned down. Yeah. I mean, they're fixing it, but you know? Yeah. But Yeah.
[02:40:09] Unknown:
Have you been to Florence? Uh-uh. It's the oh, man. Off. The there are these cathedrals just like I got one here just like 100 kilometers in cologne. Oh, wow. Which is like like the real stuff. Right? So they're gonna tell you, like, oh, they build it from 1400, whatever the fuck, until now. Like, how did he did it in the 1500 when there were no cars, no trucks? Thing. Yeah. No no sense at all. Right. That's a different that's a different podcast. I love it. Alright. What's the definite what's your definition of,
[02:40:49] Unknown:
God? The God for me is is an Abrahamic God. I mean, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. But I also feel like it's a lot different than what they make of it, obviously, from our talk. Right? Like, and it and God is love. And, I mean, it's different than I the one thing Jesus said after everything was hung on the cross was love one another, and we still can't figure it out. So Yes. Yeah. That's for me. Yeah.
[02:41:17] Unknown:
I think, to connect with each other and respect each other in full way, which is the hardest part. Yeah. That's the first connection to love.
[02:41:28] Unknown:
Yeah. We have to stop being so different.
[02:41:31] Unknown:
Yeah. You for doing that, but I still love you.
[02:41:34] Unknown:
Well, hating the thing is different than hating the person, and that's what we need to figure out. Because you can hate something somebody does all day long, but you really don't know that person inside enough to hate them. That's pretty that's pretty bad. That's hard. No. I don't Yes. Yeah. I don't believe in that. Did you pronounce it with the with the,
[02:41:57] Unknown:
podcast on state that you have a relative that's is not gonna change, but now you you like him because he doesn't change?
[02:42:04] Unknown:
Yeah. I do have some like that. And I'm like, well, that's fine. Like, I have respect for people that are different than me. It doesn't mean anything. And one of my really good friends is an atheist, and I just you know, it doesn't matter. This kind of stuff, it it it really shouldn't. You should just love the person for who they are. That isn't who they are. That's what they're doing. You know?
[02:42:27] Unknown:
I love to talk to an atheist and say them like, oh, I love that you have a religion. And they would say, no. I don't believe in a religion. Well, that's a religion. Is it a religion? Don't believe.
[02:42:38] Unknown:
Yes. Yep. That's so true. That's funny.
[02:42:41] Unknown:
What's your definition of the devil, Heidi?
[02:42:44] Unknown:
That would be adversary. The adversary. I don't think the devil is per se what it is in religion. Right? Like, even for Job, even when Job talks about adversary, there wasn't a Satan really at that time. Right? Like, it is different than we think. Do I think there's one that's over all the many? Yeah. For sure. But, it is adversary. We have to it's dark and light once again. We're back to duality. Yeah. Absolutely.
[02:43:16] Unknown:
Yep. And we gotta pick we gotta pick. And that's what happening is to us. Yes.
[02:43:22] Unknown:
Absolutely.
[02:43:23] Unknown:
What's your interpretation or definition of value?
[02:43:28] Unknown:
Value is, like, not of the world, but what you are, what you can bring to the world. You know? I don't think that money I mean, we all have to have it. It's necessary because, you know, they've enslaved humanity. But I feel like it's important that we know who we are Mhmm. And that we share that with others. Even if they don't need something else that maybe they don't like 5 things out of 10 you said, maybe you're gonna help them. That's why they used to have people sit around and talk like we do now. But Right. You know, where where is all that gone? Where are the philosophers gone? So, you know, what are you doing for others? What are you you know, I'm not saying self worth isn't important, but I I think most of my life has been disservice. I mean, I'm a nurse and a mom, and and I feel happy about that. I don't feel like drugged down or like, oh, I had to do this. Yeah. Like,
[02:44:22] Unknown:
we're supposed to do that for one another, really. I mean Yeah. But you can't help others if you can't help yourself. You can't love others when you don't love yourself. That's that's something I I came across, and it was really hard when I was figuring out, like, with, with a burnout. And I walked, you know, down the bathroom. I saw saw myself in the mirror. We got your your portal. Just like, who the fuck are you, man? I just had to introduce myself. You know? Who who are you?
[02:44:54] Unknown:
You do. You have to know yourself and fill up your tank because if you constantly don't do that, you're gonna be worn out. And I did that for Sears.
[02:45:04] Unknown:
Yeah. I did that too. You're gonna be drained. It's like a battery. You have to re recharge it every single time.
[02:45:10] Unknown:
Yep. And you will never be enough for some people. You know? That's the sad thing. It's no matter how good and gracious and loving and and whatever you've tried to do, you know, you're always somebody's villain in their story. Oh, yeah.
[02:45:25] Unknown:
What's your interpretation or, definition of success?
[02:45:31] Unknown:
Success. Definitely not money. I mean, it is what it is. We all need it like I said. Or or Yeah.
[02:45:39] Unknown:
Money is something like, okay. This is the value that I'm gonna give you about what you did.
[02:45:45] Unknown:
Right? Yes. It it's more about being able to sleep with yourself at night. You know? You if you do not have that, then you're not very successful, in my opinion. You know? You have to be able to love what you are, who you are, what you're doing. You can change it tomorrow too. Like, if you don't, then now it's easy. So
[02:46:06] Unknown:
that's It's very important what you just said. Because when you change, I do also coaching. When you change, it's not more tomorrow. It's like now. In the moment when I change myself right now or wanna change, I do it now, not tomorrow.
[02:46:20] Unknown:
Right. Right. Yep. You have to do it again. Been it's been there. It's been you know? Don't one thing. Change one thing.
[02:46:28] Unknown:
Don't get overwhelmed. Change one thing. Yeah. Change his life before it changes. She was on a motto. Last two questions. Last two questions. What's your favorite quote?
[02:46:41] Unknown:
Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. That is my favorite quote. Yes. 100% coming from what I came from for sure. Yeah.
[02:46:52] Unknown:
What's your life's motto, Heidi?
[02:46:56] Unknown:
To be able to help as many people as I can. To to find the light, to find love, to find healing, to help broken people heal broken people. Because, honestly, I don't think there's any other way. I don't think the person that has all their shit together, we don't wanna hear from them. You know? Like, that's not really the person you go to for help. I mean, all of us that have been through the ringer, we've been through the ringer for a reason. And if you keep it, it's just like the guy that buried his gold talon in the bible. Right? And he did nothing with it, and God was really pissed. Like, Jesus was like, what are you doing? Why did you do that? You know? He didn't waste it. He didn't spend it. He didn't do anything. I don't wanna die not doing anything.
I wanna be brave enough to change some things. So
[02:47:44] Unknown:
I think this is a perfect way to, to stop this podcast. I had a really fun time with you, Heidi. Awesome.
[02:47:53] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:47:54] Unknown:
3 hours in?
[02:47:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I told you I'm chatty.
[02:47:58] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. And I I always say to my people when they are on my podcast, it's like, oh my god. You know? And just like, oh, this is Man, time is not in existence. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of something they make up. And, but I just had a really good time. I learned a lot. I did too. Yeah. And, yep. Feel free to, to contact me. And and and how can people contact you?
[02:48:22] Unknown:
Awesome. Yes. I am Heidi Love. I'm everywhere podcasts are served. I do have my own website now. It's the unfilteredizedpodcast.com, and they should update on there on or lead you to the link, but I think they are direct. Spotify, I drop twice a week, and YouTube gets what they get, like, every 7 to 9 days because they hate me, and they censor everything I do. I can't I I don't know what else to do. Like, it's very frustrating. Yeah. Or too simple. It's so maddening. Right? And Spotify lets anything through now. So I'm like, just It's strange.
[02:48:57] Unknown:
It's I think it's really strange. As a podcaster, I thought, oh, I'm I'm gonna be banned within a few seconds on Spotify. But then I'm listening to a lot of episodes from my fellow podcasters. Just like, oh, I can say whatever the fuck I want. You can. Yeah. Or Joe Rogan. You you can say whatever you want. Mhmm. I love it. I was 40 episodes in with, with my podcast on YouTube, which I really like because YouTube has this easy way to translate your, your stuff, you know, with subtitles in all languages.
[02:49:28] Unknown:
Oh, nice. And,
[02:49:30] Unknown:
basically, 2 times a, a community strike because they update every single every time I release an episode, they're gonna release some new community guidelines.
[02:49:41] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. It feels that way sometimes. I'm like, okay. And I didn't even talk about, like, anything major, like, on the times that I I I was actually surprised, which which things got me in trouble. I took their dumb little class, you know, whatever.
[02:49:56] Unknown:
Yeah. That's why I'm on Rumble. Not anymore on YouTube because I don't want to, you know, when I have another strike on YouTube, they will fucking delete every 40 episodes. That's why I'm so careful what I put on there now. Yes. It's so much work and time, and it's not not for me. It's and I did it with all my pleasure. It's for people to listen to Yeah. Other information than that they wanna put up. You know? Yeah. Listen to it and and and dig dig dive into some stuff that's really fascinating. And that that is also a little bit, you know, awake.
And, not awake at night of or awoke, but but awake like, oh, wait a minute. If I see it through all these kinds of psyops and lies, my life is quite good.
[02:50:47] Unknown:
Right. Right. Yep. We are we are some of the lucky ones. You know? I mean, it's hard to to see people surrounding you that fall for the narrative. And sometimes you're just like, I'm so black pilled at this point that I'm like, this is a fake. You know? Like, the elections or whatever. I'm like, oh, come on. You know? Just and and it it is. But I guess people need a king. That's why they killed Jesus after all. Right? So Yes.
[02:51:16] Unknown:
Yeah. And as I like to say to my, to my, listeners, I am the king of my kingdom because you're my temple. This This is my kingdom. Yeah. And I am the king. Yep.
[02:51:28] Unknown:
We should all be so lucky. We should all. Yeah. And it would change things. You know? It would change things, I think, for many people.
[02:51:35] Unknown:
Stop trying to please everyone. If I could do that with 1 person listening to one of my episodes, then then mission accomplished. Right. Yes. Absolutely. Not in for the money. I'm not in for I mean, I do the I I work just, like, 10 hours today and, ate something, had my coffee with me, jumped on a podcast, and we're 3 hours in. I'm gonna edit the stuff and all that stuff with a with a I wanna get It's a lot of time. Out today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so much time. But I do think it's a calling for some of us. Right? Like, I mean, I know. I feel it is. So, hopefully, like I'm the messenger of things, and, I got the ability to communicate in a different language.
And I got the ability to communicate with a lot of different people. And that's, that's something that that really that's really what what what I like about myself that I can do this. No? Yes. And so you got a lot of reach to a lot of people. And, I'm I'm I'm just doing the stuff that I like to do because, just like, say, if normal with a normal job and you would say to me, would you, work another hour or 2 hours? I would say, oh, hell no. Not for the money. You know? I wanna be, be dumbed down with a beer, cigarettes, and some, Netflix or some porn. You come on. I'm a guy. Nowadays, I just do the did this kind of stuff, and I'm putting on some music in a in a few minutes, and I'm gonna edit the stuff out. And then probably tomorrow gonna raise release the, the video.
[02:53:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Higher vibrational things. Right? Like, it's a higher I mean, that's what they want us to do is sit in front of Netflix. They want us to be dumbed down. They don't want you reading books. They don't want you looking up stuff. They don't you know? And it is what it is. I mean, we can all see. You can have the eyes to see and ears to hear, but also be blind at the same time. So Yeah. It's and you've had to interact. A lot.
[02:53:32] Unknown:
Cool. Yes. You know, not like, oh, how you how you do and message him. Just like we're we're just talking. You know, you give some information. Try to listen. Mhmm. For me, the hardest part in when I when I start with podcasting, don't be too much critical to yourself. I was listening to the episode from yesterday. I was so tired. I couldn't make up anything of the words that I pronounce in English. Just like, what the fuck are you saying? So I said that on on the Telegram, they say, oh, you're fine. We know people from America that can't pronounce their own fucking language. So what they can Yeah. Oh my god. So, yeah, keep up the good work.
Thank you. Let's keep in contact because I I really like things that you say. Probably gonna do a part 2 because there's a lot of stuff we can deep, deep dive into. You bet. Sounds good to me. I'm excited for it. Let's do it. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Heidi Love on this organized productions. And for all my listeners, your fellow humans out there, have a beautiful morning, a beautiful day, or beautiful evening no matter where you are on this beautiful plain planet. Thank you. Namaste, motherfucker.
Introduction to the Podcast
Special Guest: Heidi Love
Heidi's Journey Out of Mormonism
Mormonism and Corporate Influence
Magic and Occult Practices in Mormonism
Joseph Smith's Magical Practices
Religious Comparisons and Magic
Temple Ceremonies and Symbolism
Genealogy and Secret Records
Speculations on Bloodlines and Genetics
Closing Thoughts and Reflections
