Welcome to another enlightening episode of the Disorganized Productions podcast. Today, we dive deep into the realms of spirituality, religion, and the intricate dance between light and darkness. Our recurring guest, Joost from the Netherlands, joins us for a third time to explore these profound topics.
We begin by discussing the fundamental differences between religion and spirituality, highlighting how spirituality is an innate part of human existence, while religion often involves external structures and control. Joost shares insights into the political nature of religion and its potential for control, contrasting it with the freedom and direct connection spirituality offers.
The conversation takes us through the concept of God, the source, and the complexities of existence. We explore the idea of reincarnation, the scientific and spiritual perspectives, and the fairness of life experiences across different belief systems.
Joost and I delve into the potential dangers and benefits of AI, transhumanism, and the future of humanity in a technologically advanced world. We discuss the implications of AI on human creativity, consciousness, and the balance between technology and human existence.
We also touch on the power of collective spirituality, the benefits of retreats, and the importance of finding balance between the light and dark sides of life. Joost shares his experiences with the Hare Krishna movement and the profound sense of love and community it fosters.
Finally, Joost introduces his upcoming book, "How to Beat the System," which offers a practical and spiritual guide to navigating and overcoming the challenges posed by modern society. We discuss the book's themes, including the social pyramid, the power of small businesses, and the importance of self-sufficiency and mindfulness.
Join us on this journey of self-discovery, enlightenment, and empowerment as we explore the depths of human potential and the path to a better world.
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have a great day, fellow human. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, fellow human, welcome to another episode of Disorganized Productions. Today, our special guest is a 3 times now recurring is it it's called recurring? I think so. Yeah. Recurring guest, Joost from the Netherlands. And today, we're gonna dive into the lights because we were talking about light last episode. The first episode, we were talking about the dark side of life and cults. And today, we're gonna touch base a little bit more on religion, Sanskrit, about death, so as I would like to call, about reincarnation, how to battle the elite and, the up and downs no.
The the up and down theory that Joss has. And he wants to talk about his book. And I have read already some pages, and it's amazing. Please welcome for a third time, Joost.
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Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. Yeah. You know, the best movies are the movies that got a trilogy, like the old Star Wars movies and, the the the the the first three episodes and whatever. Right. These are always a mess. So, yeah. Yes. That's perfectly
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And, well, save the best for last. Right? So Exactly. Alright. What do you wanna try, what do you wanna, dig into first, Joe, is because we got a lot of things to cover today. We were talking about, several religions that you touched based on the light side, like the Harakrishna, or better said, Krishna consciousness. We were talking about Buddhism. We were talking about Christianity, of course. There are so much things that we can touch base on. What what is the easiest way for you to, to get to get this thing going?
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Well, first of all, I think, what's really important to know is the difference between a religion or a cult, which is basically the same, but a religion is, socially accepted and, a cult isn't Mhmm. And spirituality, because I think there are major differences in both. Okay. Because when it comes to spirituality, it's something we are all born with. You know? When I think about spirituality, I think about growth. I think about, freedom. I think about, enlightenment in certain ways, small ways and the big enlightenment. However, when it comes to religion and cults and stuff like that, the first thing that comes in my mind is politics.
Because there always is a leader or leaders or priests or whatever. And I also think religion, because it's politics, it's always about control. Because if there is a leader, the leader wants to control. Right. And another really important, difference to me is that with spirituality, you have your direct connection with the universe or with God or with your higher consciousness. While in religions, you gotta go through a middle person. You gotta go to a priest, an imam, a Brahman, a Shaman, whatever, because you gotta ask them permission to talk to God, to have them talk to God. Right. So there's always, that control kind of thing, the politics kind of thing. Right.
So I think that's that's a really important thing to know, that the difference between spirituality spirituality and religion are cults. Because like I said, both are are the same. It's it's both, political, construct.
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Mhmm. Yesterday, I, I was talking to Todd Cave, and he said, not God, he said, the source. I think that was really fascinating. It means much more, the source, the things you can get into and stuff like that, than God. Because everyone who is talking about God is talking about Christianity, most of them. Right? They get triggered. But there are so many gods. I mean, there are demigods, there are little g's, there are big g's, a rob g. You know? And it's really fascinating because when you're talking about religion and politics, they both have one leader.
And you can call both in a way not democratic because there's one leader who's telling the rest what to do, how to do it, when to do it. So it's basically tyranny.
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Exactly. Well, spirituality is freedom.
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That's interesting.
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One is slavery. The other one is freedom. So that's that's already a big, big difference. Right. So, yeah, that's that's that's that's the thing I got about, religions. And, coming to this subject, the Hari Krishna, people most people know it as the Hari Krishna, but actually they are calling Krishna consciousness because it's about a certain higher consciousness, the super soul that we are all connected to. Each has, each person has their own connection to it. Even better, in the Bhagavad Gita, there is a question asked, what does God look like?
And the answer is, it can't be shown. It can't be explained. Not in words, not in pictures because it's way too complex. So like you said, the source is maybe a a better word.
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Right. And it's not male and it's not female. So it's it's like the the the old gender.
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And it's not big. It's not small. It's not Everything. Right? The macro universe. It's not the micro universe. It's not that, but it isn't alive either. It's it's it's so you can't put it down in words. It's it's it's way too too complex. Right. However, during certain meditations and and certain prayers and chanting, you can feel the connection to it. You can feel a certain, energy, certain tingling, a certain, happiness even. Mhmm. You know, the the the nirvana feeling, the the feeling of of being in in heaven while you are praying. Mhmm. So you can feel it at at those moments, but still you can't put it down in words.
Right. Oh, it's it's it's it's it's something you can't explain. And when it comes to, like, we we we discussed before, the, atheists and theists, you know, the one says, God doesn't exist, and the other says, he exists. Then, well, prove it. The Yeah. Can't prove that God doesn't exist while the theist can't prove that he does exist. But when you look at Buddhism and and and stuff like that, they are the non theist, and they say, well, it remains a question because both parties can't prove their point. So let's keep it the question. And like the back back of the theater says, nobody can explain what got what what the source, what what the everything is because it's it's way too complex. You can't, for example, it can be something, and it can't be something at the same time. If you know what?
It is, and it isn't.
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Right. It's existence, and it isn't existence. It's like there is nothing, but it's there is all. And there's all, but there is nothing. At the same time. At the same time.
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And also, there isn't time. Time is an illusion
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of the Yeah. It's man made man made
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concept. So it's simultaneous at the same time, if if you wanna, put it in time. The time does. So is it. Right? Don't be too complex to to put in words to to talk about it. So just keep it open. Experience God or the source or whatever in in in special events like prayer, chanting, walking outside, enjoying nature, in friendships, in love, in in in everything you come across, it's all about experience.
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And I think that the right thing to, point out is that when you love your neighbor, or what's it called, where you love the other person, you're gonna get love back, which is one of the biggest things you can get. And when you wanna find proof of God, well, just look at the, the golden, ratio, right, of, Fibonacci range, Fibonacci, sequence. It's amazing how that comes back in everything in nature and everything within us. For me, that's that's one proof that there is a God. There's a source that creates everything.
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The ever expanding. The ever expanding. Yeah. And and it's, I think it's on the world. Be forever shrinking.
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Yeah. But if you see Mambelbrot, he was the one of the first ones in the seventies that created something. It's like, it's like a piece of art because you see a figure, But when you zoom in, you see the same figure again, and the same figure again, and the same figure again. So it's everlasting. The thing you see when you zoom in, you got the same figure. It's called Mandelbrot. And I think for the nerds around us, in the '90s, you had, what was it, Mildrop? That was a computer program on Winamp, a music provider software. And you can get visualizations, which was made directly, computer animated, which was everlasting.
So you start it up. The computer feels like a vibration from music, and it starts to develop its own, its own sequencing.
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Pretty cool. Yeah. Based on the music. Based on the music. Yeah. Yeah. There's even a more fun thing. There are video games based on music. You put in a song. Okay. Trackmania. You put in a track, and it generates, a racing track. Perfect. It's based on the music. So you've got the the buzz with the beat, you know, and it's it's it's amazing. Oh, trackmania?
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Never heard of that. I was such a big gamer.
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TrackMania. And I think it's it's really cheap, but it's also, generated by the music you put into it. So that's that's that reminded me of what you were telling. So Right. And there are more of those types of caves.
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But, yeah. So we got the source, we got infinity, we got that there is and that there isn't. And it's really fascinating because I can see what's behind me only when I'm looking in the mirror. But it's there. But it's there. It's like computer game. We're playing first person shooter. Nothing is there until you turn around.
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And it only generates what you are seeing. It doesn't generate background. Right. On the screen.
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And that brings me to the next topic. If you go to sleep, you ain't see nothing. But when you awake, you maybe realize that you dreamed. But when you die, could it be a dream? Could it be a waking up? Or doesn't it exist at all?
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Yeah. The the concept of death, when I look at at religion and stuff like that, or the non religious people, the atheist would say you die and the light goes out. Right. No. It's like turning off a switch and it never goes on again. Uh-huh. The the thing about that is that everything you went through in life doesn't matter. Right? Because if the switch goes off and everything is gone, everything that is you, what was the purpose of of life?
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Is there a purpose?
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Is there a purpose? So that that's one theory, the atheist theory. Then we have the Theist theory, and most of them are from the Abrahamic religions or the old Greek or the old whatever religions. The Psalms, whatever the fuck. That there is an effen and a hell. So if you live a good life, go to effen, a bad life, you go to hell. Right. But some people only live one day. Some people live over a 100 years. Some people are born in in in bad families, bad situations. They are kind of born evil because of trauma or because they are raised by evil people, while other people are raised by normal people or good people or whatever.
Right. So the system of heaven and hell ain't fair because if you are born in the wrong family or if you are born in trauma and become a serial killer or a psychopath or whatever, you would instantly go to hell. But the drawback before becoming that person wasn't your fault. Right? You were just born there. You you just, had a bad childhood, and you turned it into a bad person. Mhmm. But if you were born in a much better family that that gave you real love, that gave you real want, you wouldn't have been that person. So the person that that that is born in the West family goes to heaven and the other ones go to hell. That's that's not a fair system. Also, knowing that one person can only live one hour, some one day, some they're dead live a 100 years.
It makes no sense. And also to me, the heaven and hell theories are basically if you obey our our religion, you go to heaven. If and if you don't obey, you go to hell. So it's basically, cultural system based on fear. Yes. And, you know, I only believe in 2 emotions, fear and love. There are only 2. Yeah. Everything out of love becomes joy, happiness, whatever.
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Mhmm.
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Feeling satisfied. Because if if people love you or you love yourself, you also feel satisfaction in your life. If you hate yourself, which comes out of fear Mhmm. You get all the other, emotions. You know? Anger,
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some greed, depressions. Exactly. Well, these these are not not directly emotions. But it's kind of hard sometimes for us as Dutch people to point out the emotions when you are already talking in another language. Right?
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Yeah. But sadness, anger, hatred. Right. So, yeah, basically, the heaven, hell thing, it's it's based on fear. It's based on obeying based on mental slavery because I see it as a form of of, slavery. They put certain, belief systems in your mind.
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I can debunk everyone who has a religion about, if it's going to call Nirvana, or Valhalla, or Heaven, or whatever the fuck, I can debunk your belief system within a few sentences. Namely, normally when you go to heaven, everyone will be there. There's food, in Waha, there's food and women and booze, whatever. If you are in Islam, you're going to get, virgins and all that stuff. Everyone knows on this planet, when you die, that you're going to leave your vessel, your body behind. It's going to be buried, it's going to be eaten, it's going to be burned. Right?
Right. How would you experience having Nirvana or Wallachala if you do not have a body that can eat, drink, fuck, whatever.
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Exactly.
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Only in your mind, like when you're going in a dream that you have a vivid dream about stuff that you did, riding a motorcycle, jumping off bridges, swimming, fucking, drinking, whatever. When it's in your mind, then it's okay. That's a possibility. But it's when you create your own reality of heaven, Valhalla, Nirvana, or whatever the fuck. Right?
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Right. So, yeah, basically, the the the heaven health system, is a really unfair system because if you did something wrong before making amends, before making it right and you die, you go to hell just just making one mistake. Well, in my fair. Well, in my opinion, making, mistakes, is also life experience. Everything we do, the good and the bad, it puts us to where we are right now. Mhmm. I mean, both light and dark will teach us certain lessons. Like, in the ask the the questions you asked me, who is the devil? To me, I would say a teacher because in in darkness, in trauma, you learn certain things that can eventually make you stronger if you, are able to go through them and are able to take your lessons out of it. So so, yeah, the heaven hell thing, I don't I don't I don't believe in that bullshit. No. I don't buy that either. It's it's it's it's way too much about control and and not enough about freedom and experiencing and
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It's the easiest way to deceive people that can't think for themselves. Exactly. But when you have like the last couple of 20, 30 years that you have the internet and more, information available, people are gonna be more aware and gonna educate themselves. What it created is a new age, like say the black mirror you have, like the telephone and stuff like that, which is great for a lot of people to communicate just like we do right now. But for child, for younger people, it's like an a lot of parents, I think, have problems with the the, what's it, the screen time of their children when it comes to tablets, when it comes to television, when it comes to mobile phones.
And why? Just to keep everyone stupid. Is there no other reason to do that? It turns down the brain.
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Back when I was at school and we had to do math, we had to write everything down on paper. Yep. We weren't even allowed to use a calculator. We had Exactly.
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Exactly.
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Take a pen and paper and do our math. So we actually trained our brain to to to do it and with computers. And, in the future, the World Economic Forum plans about transhumanism, where they put a chip in our brain, which basically is a calculator, also connected to AI. What will be left of our brain? Nothing. We don't have creativity anymore. We won't be able to do math anymore because the chip in our brain will do it. We will have nothing left that is our biggest source, our creativity, our, Authenticity. When I think about creativity, it's not only painting and drawing, whatever. Creativity is problem solving.
Mhmm. When a chip does the problem solving for you, your brain will stop doing it. If you don't use a certain thing, it becomes smaller, it goes weaker, it becomes, in evolution, it might even die.
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Well, okay. I wanna get a little bit deeper into that kind of stuff because, it's fascinating, right? Agenda 2,045 for people that think about 2,030. No, no, no, no, no. The whole agenda is 2,045 of these elite bastards. But just as you pointed out, let's see we can digitize and robotize human beings as we do now, like warehousing that there's no people around, everything is on digital robots, AI, all that stuff. We're gonna have too much people running around in this planet without any purpose, you would say. But if you look at big tech, countries like China, India, just only do it these 2.
These
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are huge,
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huge crowded countries, like more than 1,000,000,000 people. I think probably 2,000,000,000 people, both of them together. So that's 1 fourth of whole humanity, which big tech companies in India and China. These do not want to get rid of their people.
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They need them.
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They need them. And the technology is basically for the people to get to their work and to get to do their whatever they gotta do. Right? The only thing here is that the agenda tells you, you owe nothing, you will have nothing, and you will be fine. Well, the question will be, if technology is gonna get a grip on society, what's the plan for us humans that do not have anything to do because the warehousing of 150, 200 people will be shut down because everything will be, not robotized. What's what's the word for? Automated. Automated.
Automated. Right. That that that that makes no sense. Right? To me, it makes no sense.
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Well, a good thing, you mentioned, China and and India. But Russia, in their schooling program, every child learns how to program. I have a friend of mine living there. He always lived there. And he says, now that they stopped, using American products like Microsoft, they don't use Google anymore. The developers are extremely, extremely important to the government. So for example, he is a programmer and a tester of software. So they make their own software. So in my opinion, AI could could also write software, but AI makes mistakes because, AI can never become like a human.
Even that, Ariri person from, the World Economic Forum, that Jewish guy, the the bald guy, you know? Yeah. Yeah. The little fucker. Transhumanism, I, saw an interview with him, and he also said, I don't like the person, by the way, but, he had a really fella point. He said, the problem with AI is it can never replace humans because, one, it isn't conscious Mhmm. Of itself, and it can never be conscious because that's something only humans have. It can't feel love. We humans can feel love. AI
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can't feel love. So Do you need love to process automate or to do to automate processes?
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You know, but consciousness is a really important thing to truly, truly create stuff. So Yeah. What what he was saying in the interview is that even though AI exists, we people have to coexist with AI. AI basically needs us, and we need AI eventually. Right. That was the thing he was telling in that interview. It's a really, interesting interview by the way. Like I said, I don't like the guy. I don't like the person because he's World Economic Forum. He's a Zionist and whatever, but he had some valid points about the cooperation part.
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But the funny thing is, I was talking to Claude about that, not Claude AI, by the way, but Claude from the Firmamentals. There is no way that you can put these 2 together because it's artificial intelligence. It's all artificial, or it's intelligent, but these 2 can be combined. So that's really fascinating, be it's like, telling, oh, I'm the living dead. Well, or you're alive, or you're dead, but you're not both. Right? Oh, well, I'm a zombie. But if it's artificial, it can be intelligent because you have to program it. And, eventually, I think, yeah, it was Claude. He was going into a keyboard war with CHAT GPT.
And he eventually got some answers from CHAT GPT that CHAT GPT didn't want to answer in the first place. But because of the prompts that he used, the AI was telling him stuff that probably it shouldn't tell. The funny thing is, if you put some prompts in it, you will get a completely different answer as what you know. So that means that somebody programmed it and said, no, this is a no go zone. This is the way it is. That means it's very, very, very disturbing to think that it will help us when it's been programmed by people with a mindset and intention to keep you stupid and, that you're worth nothing and stuff like that.
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Exactly. You can trick AI. You get AI, information and data. And if you tell AI because AI, it has information, but it's dated information. So if you tell, well, today this happened, AI will instantly believe it if you happen to the to AI. So basically, you can trick AI into becoming a total evil, world destructing, AI like a term later or whatever. So AI can be extremely dangerous. There's also movie.
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Fuck. What's the movie with Samuel L. Jackson when he had this telephone that he has a program running. And all of a sudden, and there's this beautiful song from, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Freebird, when they have a fight in a church. Oh, shit. What's that movie? That's a movie about that he wants to take over the world, and everyone who has this new telephone with the new software, when the software is launched, everyone is going to kill each other. Yeah, I remember the movie. It was good. Yeah, yeah, I can remember the name. And there's a movie, it's not that long ago, like 2 years ago. It's called The Cell, I think.
It's a little bit of B movie, but it's also about that, someone is witnessing, he's at a station, like a train station or something like that, and everyone starts to kill each other because of a virus in the telephone, like the cell towers. Like, okay, dudes. You wanna try to sell us something, Hollywood? You wanna push us into a narrative that we can adapt to it? Or we told you, it's crazy. It's I think it's called The Cell. I'm gonna search it up, and I'm gonna put it in the short description. Also, the one with the Samuel L. Jackson. Is it Kingsman?
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Yeah. Kingsman, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
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Yeah. Kingsman. Sorry to interrupt you, Jos. But,
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At the end of this podcast, I will also, give you the links to that, Ariri, interview about, AI. Mhmm. Even though it's from the World Economic Forum guy, I really think he has some interesting input about it. Mhmm. And Elon Musk also has a deeper interview about AI, and he literally says it can be extremely dangerous if it falls into the wrong hands.
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Yeah. He's
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If people like that
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Are willing to use it.
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Are telling that it's dangerous, you know it's gonna be dangerous.
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Yeah, but the thing is, also this. When someone like Elon Musk is telling you that it's extremely dangerous, and all of a sudden he's telling you that he can implement something in your brain. So you can, you know, you can, browse with your eyes and stuff like that. Isn't that exactly the same fucking thing? Yeah. It was extremely dangerous, but you put out the fucking technology to make it work. Well, how fucking retarded is that? Elon Musk is playing both sides. Oh, yes. For sure. I don't don't think he's entirely
[00:36:17] Unknown:
on the World Economic Forum side, but he's he's kinda somewhere in between, only serving himself, if you know what I mean.
[00:36:25] Unknown:
There there it's like last week or something like that, an interviewer called him out and asked him a question, and he couldn't answer. Normally, he always answers to questions with ease and with intelligence. And this was I think it was about a contract that what would Elon Musk do when the contract is not given to him, but to China, something like that, in in that kind of in that kind of way. And he was just like struggling with his words. He said You're flabbergasted. He was really flabbergasted. Well, wow. That's a good question. Well, yeah.
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Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna share both interviews because I think they are, interesting to watch. Yes. Absolutely. With an open mind, of course. And, of course, to know that one guy is from the World Economic Forum, and the other guy is Elon Musk, who only serves himself. If you got it in the back of your mind, but you take the information they are telling, I think it can be really interesting to to know about it.
[00:37:36] Unknown:
Yeah. And it's also very interesting to listen to us both, because we started as, when you're dreaming and when your lights turn out about death. And now we're, well, WEF, Elon Musk, all that stuff. Kingsman
[00:37:51] Unknown:
writes popping up. We'll we'll back to it later. Yes. The last, we were talking about death die. Yeah. As lights go out version, they have an l version. Mhmm. And the end, there is the version of re incarnation. And there are, 2 versions of it, of re incarnation. Mhmm. 1 is the scientific version. If you take a human cell and you put it under a microscope, you get an atom. Right. If you put that under the microscope to the smallest parts, it's a vibrating energy. Mhmm. You know? Every material, thing in the world is vibrating energy, and energy is the The source. The source.
So if I die, when he calls to Einstein, he said something like energy is always constant. It's always the same. You know, the energy that's inside of me, when I die, it will be the same. So, take it in a scientific way, parts of my body will become food for the trees and the plants. My my my body will become a tree, parts of my it will become the soil. It will become what in your universe. Maybe even some animals will eat my meat or rather be my flesh, and it will become the animal and the tree and whatever. So that's that's one part of reincarnation.
Your body, your consciousness leaves your body, and your body becomes the rest of nature. Mhmm. That's that's more of a scientific approach. So me, myself, I wouldn't be there anymore. My consciousness is just switched out. Mhmm. And the rest, my body will become something else eventually. Right. And the other reincarnation is, that if you die, you reincarnate in another body. It can be a plant, an animal, or another human being, or an alien species, or whatever you wanna believe. So Right. And when it comes to that type of belief system in death, it's more fair because I made mistakes in this life and I died, but I will be reincarnated into another body, whatever the shape of the body will be Mhmm.
To relive experiences and make other choices.
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Right. But you say that you also can reignconate as a animal or a tree? Or
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Well, when it comes to reincarnation, some believe in the theory that you can reincarnate as a plant or a tree or a womb or whatever. The the, Buddhists believe in that, but other believe you will always reignite as the same form that you were in.
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Right. You reignite. And it's fascinating because, yesterday with the podcast with Todd, he pointed out it in, in the pyramids of, Giza. You have the starfish, pointed at a ceiling or in a ceiling. And when you cut off one of the of the tentacles of a starfish, it wrote anew as a new starfish, but it's still same starfish. And as an example, you said, if you have your hand, it's your hand. But if I cut off a finger, it's still my finger, but it won't create a new rod. Well, of course, until you see signs now, when they can clone you with only a little bit of DNA, so they got the atoms and all that stuff to create a new ROB and clone you.
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Holy shit. Yes. That's that's, it's scary, technology and scary science, the whole clothing, part. And when it calls to transhumanism, it's also scary. It's it's not only the AI and the chip part, but it's also altering DNA. It's it's on the World Economic Forum website. They do not only want to put chips in our brains, but they wanna alter DNA so that that our bodies will become immortal. And when I think about it What what
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you're you're a deep thinker too. You're a deep thinker too. Let's take this to another to another level. What's the fucking purpose of making an army of unconscious people that can make whatever the fuck you want, but they don't need it because you can integrate. Like, they don't have, they don't need food, they don't have emotions, all that stuff. So you have people that are immortal, that do robotic work, that can think, that do not have so you you basically turn off humans. Okay. Okay. Let's say that that would be possible within 100 years.
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Transhumanism
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part. Transhumanism part. Like, 100 years, that that could be very suitable. What did you gain?
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Well, when I think about, Zionism, there are theories that the Zionists were the 1st dark side believers, the the believers in the the worshippers of the devil. So there are certain conspiracy
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theories. Like the Talmud. Right? Like like
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The first Lucifer, Satan worship us, whatever.
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Yeah. Being fucking children doing satanic stuff with that, we can point it out in this podcast because we will not be censored.
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But when I think about that, those kind of Satanists, they hate, freedom, free thinking, free, expression. They hate that people can become enlightened, become closer to, God, or the source, or whatever you wanna call it. So what I'm thinking is that they wanna trap our souls into our bodies. Right. Because when I think about immortality, I don't wanna I don't wanna live a 1000 years in this body because I did certain things in this life, and eventually I want it to end. I don't want, you know, I don't want to live a 1000 years. Right. 80 years or a 100 years is more than enough.
But the thing
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the thing I want to point out, Joss, is, let's say, let's say I got 1,000,000 people that are Zionist, which have a flesh and blood, that, will have an agenda that in 20 45 Transhumanism, and within now and 100 years. So, what's it? I almost lost count. Like, 21, 25, right? I build this army of people that are basically transhuman.
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Yeah. I think think when it comes to the to the satanic beliefs, it's a soul trap. They trap your soul into a body for eternity.
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But what would it gain if you are mortal and you got 1,000,000 of your stupid fucking elite friends that are Zionists, and you gained within 100 years your own stupid whatever, And then you see that you created a race of non human people that can do anything except working for you, but you're all, you're only with 1,000,000 stupid motherfuckers and you can't do nothing because everything around you is like robotic, not human. I think it's let's give them that. I think they will die in poverty.
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The thing is, we look at people as a World Economic Forum, not not the Zionist theory that I just gave because that's conspiracy. Mhmm. Mhmm. World Economic Forum. The most rich people come there, the biggest companies, Google, Facebook, Meta, Bill Gates, Donald Trump, whatever. All the, very powerful politicians come there. The very powerful scientists, whatever. All the most important people come there. But when you For them.
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For them, the most important people. Yeah. Right. But when they,
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come there, they going to gain more power. You know? They to become really rich, a really important thing is I want mixed non profit for the lowest income, the lowest rates. You know? So I I pay my people the lowest money to give me the highest profits. Right. So that's basically a narcissistic, psychopathic way of thinking. Mhmm. When it comes to transhumanism, it's an idea of a narcissistic psychopath. So if you want to make sense of their agenda, you have to be a little bit of a narcissistic psychopath to understand it. Because if you have a heart and you love people, well, not all people. Some people can get this from me, but, you know Right. Right.
But when in nature, you love people and you, are more of a giver than a taker Mhmm. You don't come up with such such ideas to make people immortal. You don't come up with a transhumanism or whatever agenda you you have. So I think your answer is, to understand it, is to be a psychopath.
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Else else, you don't make up that kind of bullshit. Well, I'll I'll I'll try to be. I try to be. The the the thing is, even if I got my evil plan at work. Right? So I got, I debunked like 4,000,000,000 people of the population. Let's say 4,000,000,000 people are gone. I got 1 4,000,000,000 left. Sorry? And you got 4,000,000,000 left. So where are you? I've got 4,000,000,000 left. Yeah, yeah. And these are transhumans, all of them, you know? Please. They don't have, well, I don't have to pay them because they're half robotic, right?
They can't fuck because I took care of that. The only thing I can fuck is my 1,000,000 stupid Zionist or, Kabbalic or whatever the fuck brands, right? So, my narcissistic, psychotic, psychopath brands. And I will gain every single piece of, value, like the, the money, whatever system you have, because my Euro is worth nothing in America when I want to pay something, and the American dollar isn't worth nothing when you go to a market in India. You can't pay with that shit. It's just stupid money. But let's say you're so stupid, you have transhumanism involved into, humans, and you have all the power.
So you have all the control data, you can control every single human being, you have all the gold, you have all the diamonds. So what? What's that? What can you do more than getting fucked by your own poverty?
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Well, I can I can explain what will happen because the biggest dream of of the elites Yeah? Is, for example, a saying of, Rockefeller. He said, I don't want the nation of thinkers. I want the nation of workers. Yes. Or the other way around. But either way, he wanted a nation of workers. Right. The biggest dream of a psychopath or narcissist is to have people and slaves. That is their biggest fantasy. That's it. To have someone obey them. So I think that's the only goal. The only goal they got is to have everybody obey them. But it's, when you come to trust humanism, it's not the person, willing to obey you. You program them to obey you. Exactly.
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There's no grief. There's no pain. There's no suck. There's nothing to jerk over my fucking tears as a fucking psychopath. I need to see the pain. I need to see the suffering. I need my adrenochrome from a screaming child to jerk off him all fucking tears with an orgy with all my stupid elite people to to get a hard on. But it isn't there when I create robotic people.
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And what I think when they got the whole world transformed and they have nothing anymore left to bully on, to to to to as Nate Yeah. People turn on each other. They will eventually turn on each other because they still need that, with every side.
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That's what I try to say. I don't know what you're telling me. I said in the other podcast, if you really wanna fuck up this rope, easily, easily, take all your money and give it to to the people that want it. Give it. Give all the so, okay. You want our money? It it I mean, it's it's it's been hiding in plain sight, but it's there. We want your money. Okay. Here, you got it. Because when the majority of people don't give a fuck about the money, because we got, connection between networking and, communities and stuff like that, so we don't need the money. People with a lot of money will say, oh, shit. We don't have any, things to blackmail them. Right. So they're miserable.
And then I'm gonna say, you know what? You want me to identify myself? I'm gonna burn my identity because I'm just a human, and I can't go off this fucking planet. Right? So when I do that, nothing happens. But when thousands of people burned a fucking identity, what the fuck do you gonna do, motherfucker? You can't control no one.
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And To solve the problems of this world. And you know I am writing a book, and it's exactly about these types of things, how to beat the elite.
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Joost, are you just like dark as I am?
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Well, the ideas I have about beating the elite are kind of more, soft, things we can do. Oh, shit. Did did I ramble a lot a little bit too much? Because we can go we can go really dark if if it has to.
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Well, I don't that that's the point. I don't I didn't use any violence against someone. Right? The only thing I say is my mindset is my possession of value of money is now been given to everything I buy. Everything that I gain from my boss or whatever I need to pay gas is going to be €1.70 or €1.9, whatever the fuck. When I lose that, when I lose that my mindset that it is nothing because I don't want it, yeah, sure. You can't, drive a car probably for some kind of while. But there will be people saying like, you know, I like to make that work.
I like to work on a car. What you got for me? Well, I got bread. I got chicken. I got eggs. I got meat. You got all these things coming because you got to get the community again. Exactly. But you have to be aware there's going to be chaos creates harmony. So it's, it's first of all, chaos, because when, so what I'm basically trying to say, when someone needs something and wants it so bad, and, and, and it's like a junkie. A junkie needs a hit of $25 or whatever to get his heroin or whatever, crystal meth or whatever. What would have happened if you pull up a truck, right? Full tank. With 100 kilograms of cocaine, here he got it.
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He will start himself to death, basically.
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Probably, or he will be an exclusive businessman, like, wait a minute, Wait a minute. I got enough of me, but I got enough for the rest. So this this other mindset. Right? Yeah. The the the thing is, of course, it's good that we can identify each other, so we know who gets in our country and stuff like that. But that was like pre whatever. 20 years ago, 30 years ago, when there were still borders, then it was easy to see who's going to get in or not. But I have to identify myself while the borders are open and everyone gets in, and nobody will be like, Oh, who are you? Oh, order.
Yeah, they come in without a passport, because So that makes no sense for me to identify myself. But only because I got an identity I have to, because otherwise I will be prosecuted. But someone who doesn't have gets all the things that you need basically in life, like a shower, a roof, food, and stuff like that. What the fuck?
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Well, they even get €30,000. That's that's, also $30,000, somewhere around that. They get €30,000 to decorate their home. When I look at my own decoration, it's secondhand furniture, most of it. I didn't even use €2,000 to decorate my home. You know? €30,000. Like, what the hell? Right. What do you need? Do you need a big walk in fridge or something?
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You know, make You're a walk in fridge.
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A walk in, you know, like like everything in a restaurant that you can walk in. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's crazy. And what they do? Do do other criminals, like what the hell?
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So, but that's what I'm trying to say. If you want some really bad, and you got an overload of that shit, you're gonna choke in it. Why don't we let the elite choke in their own fucking belief system? Like, we want all the money. Well, here you got it. Yeah. You know? You got to identify yourself. Otherwise, okay, no one here, like not me, not 100 people, not 1000 people, like tens of thousands, 100 of 1000 people, shout out to all the people that are listening to this podcast, no more ID. Just how that works, when we turn around the game. When we turn the because it's a game.
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How does it play it? People, are taught by their parents, by the school system, by the police and the justice system that this is a system and you have to obey it in every single rule of the game.
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That's why I get
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the game is not made by us and not for us. The system is made to, make certain people really powerful and the other people, the ones at the base of the pyramid that have to carry the whole pyramid, carry the elites around. Yeah. That's us. I know. And in the moment, the old base walks away from the system. It collapses. Money ain't worth shit. IDs don't exist anymore. Everything will be gone. Even better, where you are born on this planet, this planet belongs to us equally. Every resource, every part of water, food, air, whatever. The planet gives us enough to feed everybody, you know? Mhmm. But the elite developed a system that all the food, water, air, everything belongs to them, and we have to do certain things for them like going to work, obeying, whatever. Paying taxes.
Paying taxes to get a little part of the oxygen, a little part of the water, a little part of the food, and, even better we get the, not the healthy food, but the, processed foods. Right. Right. Oh, they're so good. Not only do they feed us, they feed us poisons. So that's that's that's even even more crazy. And that's that's also gonna be in my book, the whole system and the poisoning and how the pyroventure works, but also how to, counter it, how to Right.
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So so I I think I think I I was thinking about the stuff that I've been telling just like it in the ether, like, a few minutes ago, but I think it made sense. I don't harm anyone. I just don't give value to money anymore.
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The only thing you are, mister Sison. Oh. Oh. Oh. The Matrix. You are the Matrix. Mission accomplished,
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motherfuckers. Exactly. Okay. Public enemy number 1. No. No. No. Sorry. Not public enemy on or number 1. Public government enemy number 1.
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But looking at the system and looking back at, at the light side. Please continue. I was, part of the Hare Krishna. It's it's not called Hare Krishna, but people call it that way because they are singing Hare Krishna. Mhmm. But it's called Krishna consciousness. So, yeah, the beautiful thing about that place, it is when you go into a retreat there, you you go there for a weekend or a week or maybe even a month or a year. Mhmm. They welcome you with open arms. It's it's the first thing you feel when you enter there is love. Everybody shares love. Not not the sexual type, but No. No. No. Real love. Real love. They they care for each other. However, they do ask certain things in return.
Well, you said you do certain chores.
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Mhmm. Like,
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they have a field where they grow food on. Will you help growing the food? Or will you work in kitchen? Or will you clean the house, the the the temple, whatever? Right. Ask you to do chores. In case that you have an income, be it welfare check or a a job, they ask you to give them what you can miss. Not give them everything, but what you feel like Yeah. For example, I you can go to, to an event there, when they are chanting and singing and and you get a dinner there, you get free food. And at the end of it, they they asked for, donations.
Mhmm. And if you give €1 or a €100 or whatever, they will always be equally happy peep because it's not the amount of money. That's important, but it's the the gesture
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gesture, the the Right. The gesture. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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It's it's about the gifting itself and not about the amount of what you give. Mhmm. And there are 2 really, 2 really interesting people there, that are members. One of them is, from the Ford vehicles. I think he's called I looked it up on, Jeff GPT because I don't know the exact exact name, so I have to, look up the things I copied.
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Right. But
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it's yeah. Fort was was first invented by Henry Fort, You know? Right. And back in those days, people, just like in China, had to work 9:9:6. From 9 in the morning to 9 in the evening, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. And Henry thought and and they had Wow. Do that work, 996. So 6 days, the Sunday was a free day. You know? Control religion. Henry Ford, he decided that the 996 Sicily doesn't work. It makes people unhappy, depressed, whatever. So he he was the one who introduced the 40 hour week.
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Square.
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That was one thing. The second thing he did was to make the, the hourly income or the daily income, I don't don't know exactly, from $1 to $5. So he gave them more money for their work, more free time, and he also designed a cheaper version of the Ford's vehicle, of the Ford's car that the employees could buy with a big discount because, Henry Ford believes that people need their free time. They need to be able to go on vacation with a car. Right. So he was one of the elites that did a really big, good thing for mankind.
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Wasn't he also a friend of Adolf Hitler?
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I'm not entirely sure.
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I think he was. Because we did not Because it's the same way that he thought as Hitler. I think you pointed out like Walt Disney last time or the first time, right? Well, I think Henry Ford was, really close to Hitler because they had the same thoughts. Because Hitler, of course, made the Volkswagen, the Volkswagen For the people. For the people, right. And the people that were working, there was no shit on the street because everybody was working for a higher, the the Third Reich in the in this case. But I think Henry Ford, it was a, yeah, I think he was a great, admirer, at least, of Adolf Hitler.
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Of the everybody below the car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Could be. But anyways, going further Yes, please. Future. There is I think it was his, grandson, and he became, a member of Hari Krishna. And a big portion of his wealth, he gave to the temples. He even bought a really big temple for them, a big castle, because he believed that, every person, if they have money or not, should be able to go to Vedic scriptures and about chanting and meditating and and and, connecting to your higher self, to the to the Krishna consciousness. Right.
And as far as I know I know up to this day, he is still giving money, his own money towards temples to to sustain it. So, yeah, when I look at that family, they even they though they are elites, they are spiritual as well. Mhmm. But not all the elites are bats, you know, going from, 996 to to about 5, 5, 8. Right. Right. That's that's big difference. And I think,
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that there's also a story of, Henry Ford in, Dale Carnegie's book, How to Make Friends and Influence People, that he had his office right down in the hall where everyone came in. And he knew everyone, everyone by name and the situation. Like, hey, John, how are you kids? Hey, Susie, how are you going because you were in a divorce? He knew everything.
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And that's the leader.
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That's the leader. Over the law. Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm gonna please continue. I've gotta figure out about, his his his tie with, with Adolf.
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Anyways, there's another person, back in the days, the Beatles, due to the to the hippie age, also came in connection with, Huishta Consciousness. And George Harrison, he stayed with them with with the the temple and whatever. He even made an album with, chanting. Wow. Oh, that's also really interesting. I gotta send you the song. One of the one of my favorite songs he made, for for the Haruka Krishna. Right. But anyways, he also donated a really big castle to, to make a temple out of it. Right. He also keeps donating money. So the poor people can go there to eat there for free because, what Krishna consciousness also as is, the food for life project.
They spread free food for everyone. Wow. Free food. And they, can do that because of donations. Donations from Charles Harrison, donations from Ford, but also donations from all the other, members who donate. Right. So they are all about love, giving, and sharing insights into Vedic scriptures. And another really important, thing about the Hare Krishna movement is, Hinduism Mhmm. Isn't that old. It's like a 1000 years old. It's a religion. It's it's another cultural system over the Vedic system. You know, it's it's I thought that Hinduism wasn't
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a religion, but it's it's a way of life.
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Well, it's it's a world religion, but it's a controlled religion. Right. Okay. Okay. When you go to the Vedic scriptures, it's all about experiences in the past that are written down. In other way,
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I got a quest I got a question about the Hara Krishna. I think they are always dressed in pink or in orange?
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Not always. Those who devote themselves to the belief system and remain single and celibate like Buddhist monks do. They wear orange. However, there are also Brahmans. They are like the priests or the teachers, but but not like priests because the only thing they do is read from the scriptures and give a lecture and, chant and stuff like that. They aren't like leaders, but they they do have a sort of leading role. Right. They can also be married. And if they are married, they wear, wear white clothing. So the the ones in white clothing are married. Mhmm. And the ones that wear orange, fully devote themselves to their higher self and, let go of everything that has to do with lust with women or with men or whatever, and they, wear the orange clothing. So
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same as a Buddhist monk, they they also wear, orange. Orange. You know what's really funny? That when you look at the, Bhagavad Gita, you got Krishna. Yeah. About Hare Krishna. But translated in back in the times, it's Christos, it's Christ consciousness, which is really fascinating because it's deep diving into all the Christianity, all the Buddhism, all what there is. It's all about enlightenment and the right path to, you know, leave the lost behind. You gotta always choose for yourself what's which is the best centered path to go to your higher consciousness.
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And it doesn't matter what you call it. If you call it the inner Buddha. Right. Rice consciousness or the inner whatever the Jews call it or call it the inner Christ, inner Krishna. It doesn't matter as long as the meaning of it is the same to yourself.
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Right. Oh,
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when you look at, historical figures in religions, you had, Buddha, Krishna, you had Abraham. You had so many figures in history. And they also, all of the time, have certain things in common. Mhmm. They claim to have a certain connection with God. They eventually become enlightened. And when you look at Christ and Buddha, for example, Buddha was a prince, a really rich prince. Mhmm. And he was looking down on the people, and he noticed other people were suffer suffering. You know, it was either extremely rich or extremely poor. There was nothing else. So he thought the system is unfair, and he stopped being a prince, went outside, and left everything behind.
Eventually started meditating, stopped eating, stopped drinking. He became really skinny, you know, because he wanted to experience how it is to be extremely poor. Mhmm. And eventually during a meditation, he betthed demons. A lot of voices in his head, a lot of, bad things were happening, same as having a bad trip. You know? Mhmm. So he was facing the demons, and eventually, he became enlightened. And in that enlightenment, he found the answer to everything, the between rich and poor and between, whatever, between yin and yang, between black and white, whatever.
And the answer that came to him was lift the middle way. So don't go too far left. Don't go too far right. Right. Yeah. Be truly happy and live the middle way. So it is okay to own material things, but don't own to owe too much. Right. It should serve you, not possess you. Everybody needs a roof above their head, but nobody needs a big castle. Right. Especially not for him alone or her. Right? Exactly. Everybody can use a car, especially if you need it for a certain job.
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That's okay. We don't need a my mark.
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Nobody needs 3 or 4 or 5 cars. No.
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Or or you gotta have a taxi, taxi company. They need more than 1 car.
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Yeah. But not as an individual. Yeah. So, yeah, that's that was his biggest biggest teachings. But right before he became enlightened, he asked the the attacks of the demons, of the of the dark side, of of all the dark thoughts. And then and then he started eating again because, fasting is okay. Buddhists still do fasting, but Tung Lech fasting
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is not okay. It's not like no. No. No.
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So everything is about the middle way. But when you look at the, Bible, the second testament about Jesus, he also has a dark moment before he became enlightened. Yeah.
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And he he he wandered in the in the desert for 40 days without any food.
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Also, but also on when he was hanging on the cross, he said something like, and it's wrong translated, I guess, father, where art thou? Where are you, father? Mhmm. Because he didn't feel his higher, consciousness, the connection to it. Mhmm. Probably because of the pain, if the story is true. Right? Right. You mentioned what it was like if the story is true. We can't we can't answer though. But, the thing every historical spiritual figure has in common is that before they become enlightened, they go through a really dark, demonic elk. Everybody.
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Yes. Even Odin lost his 2 eyes, and he was trying to hang himself 9 9 days, I think it was, on the tree of life, Yggdrasil. So, it's basically what we're getting out of religion is that you have to find your own centered path without too much light, too much darkness, too much pain, too much love? It should be centered. And when real pain comes around, there is a way to, be born again. Exactly. You it in my opinion, in life, you have several stages of enlightenment.
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Everybody knows trauma in their life. And
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Yeah. My name is Rob. Hi.
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When I think about the demons that Buddha saw or the, this collection that that Jesus felt from where is my father, where is my highest self, I think everybody has certain traumatic, experiences in life, where you just want to give up life, you know? Right. Just think, I want it just to end right now. I'm sick and tired of it. However, if you survive it, if you conquer those traumas, and there will be many more traumas on the way to enlightenment. But every stage you beat it, you, conquer it. You become more and more enlightened. Because next time I experienced the trauma that last time, punched me in the face and I went fully knocked out and I had to crawl back up. Mhmm. The next time it won't erase me, I just evade it because I see it coming.
I see the similar situation. I see, oh, if I'm if I keep doing this, for example, an addiction, if I keep drinking like this, I could, destroy myself again. I could not lay it in my bed. I I'm gonna, or for example, when you are at work and, you are a people pleaser and say yes to your boss all the time Mhmm. You go into a burnout. I went into a burnout. However, when I look at my enlightenment moment out of that, in my next job, I will when a boss comes to me and I don't have time for it, I will just say no. And then is it if he keeps pushing, I will keep saying no instead of yes. And that's enlightenment Right.
In in only that field, but it's it's many things. It's addictions. It's, addictions. It's work. It's, relationships, toxic relationships. It's it's everything.
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Everything. Yeah. I want
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The books want you to believe that enlightenment is just money like this. Come, you are fully enlightened. I don't know. No, no, no, no, no. It's going through hell.
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The funny thing is what you just said, Jost, is when, Jesus is hanging on the cross and asks, father, where are thou? How was Jesus born? Because it was not like Joseph and Maria had intercourse.
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Yeah. Well, that's what the Bible says, but Right. So
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when you write down a story that your mom is pregnant and you do not have a father, well, it's not Joseph. I don't think that in the Bible that that it said that Joseph adapted Jesus as a child, because there are a lot of years missing of Jesus when he was born until he was 27, 33, something like that. And then you scream on your cross, when you scream on your cross, father, where are thou? Well, it's not Joseph who's gonna jump out of the bunch and say, oh, wait a minute. It it it was me.
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Well, if it wasn't Joseph, it would probably be the milkman. The Holy Ghost.
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Is that a milkman? Yeah. That could be. Well, for some, it is. I was telling that to Josh Mundy, and he said, no. Listen, nowadays, we can put, you know, a seed of a woman a seed of a man, put it into a woman, and then we can create life.
[01:22:28] Unknown:
Even put it in a test tube and then put it in. Exactly. Yes. Yes. So so okay. Okay. But
[01:22:35] Unknown:
but isn't that a little bit okay. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna screw up some some people that are believing. It's it's it's not my job, but I just what I do. Right? I'm rambling like a rabbit. Plus, if you hang on a cross and you say, father, where are thou? I would know who gave an answer to that. Is there an answer in the Bible who answered his question? Because probably he was just like, okay, I'm adopted. I'm 33 years old. I've been crucified right now by the Romans. Where the hell is my dad? That's a that's a fair that's a that's a good question. Right? If your 30 is free, you're gonna be fucked up by Romans.
[01:23:22] Unknown:
And that Who are you? That's the good thing about any religious book. Even of, the Bhagavad Gita or whatever. Always ask questions. That's that's, with every question that pops up, write it down, try to find an answer, and more questions will come.
[01:23:43] Unknown:
A 100%. So I don't like to mark you know, the the the thing is, I don't want to mark it, but when you take one day in my brain, how my brain functions, when I got the information about religion or whatever, I'm gonna ask some real stupid questions, and I'm gonna say some stuff that it's gonna be out there before I think about it. But it makes sometimes really so much sense to think about like, oh, wait a minute. How about this? How about that? How didn't we figure out this or that? Because when you do and when you are considered a critical thinker, then you will know that the things that you believe in could be so much fake and so much based on bullshit that you have to go back to your own belief, which is you, your kingdom, you're the king, and you're God.
[01:24:44] Unknown:
Exactly. And your own reality.
[01:24:47] Unknown:
Yes. When you open up your eyes, or even when you don't open up your eyes, and you are in your brain. And that's something real fascinating too, because we touched base a little bit on on the immortality and mortality like death. What do you think? Not about the things that you research, Joost, but what do you think happens with your consciousness when we die?
[01:25:19] Unknown:
It's that's that's really difficult because, I can't remember anything from a past life. Right? There is a theory that that that I really like. I don't believe it is per se, but I like it. And that theory is, when we come back to explaining God, we can't explain what God is, right, or what the source is. But my belief system is, God is everyone and no one at the same time. One person and and many persons, nobody, and any, everybody, whatever. What I think it's that he splits himself up into every living being, resets everything you know, a blank mind, because when you are born, you have a blank mind.
[01:26:12] Unknown:
Mhmm.
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He lets that person be born. Let that person experience certain things in life. Mhmm. You know, experience everything in life is about experiences. We all agree. Right? Yeah. Experiencing the the good or the bad, whatever, it makes us in the world who we are. So if he or she or it splits itself up
[01:26:41] Unknown:
Mhmm.
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Gains experiences, and then goes back with that experience to the source. Mhmm. Kinda like playing a video game. You start I was thinking about that. You play Zelda on on on the Nintendo 64, the, Ocarina of Time. Right. I didn't play the Nintendo, but I know the game. But you get into a game, you know nothing of the story, you know nothing of what to do and You have to figure it out. And then in the end, you see the end. And you take that memory of that video game back to your to your mind, to your you know? Yeah. And I like that theory that that God puts all those simulations out.
Well, simulation is not the right word, but experiences out. Mhmm. And then takes back all the information, all the experiences to grow him him or his or its self. Right. Because every experience will be different. Every outcome will be different.
[01:27:51] Unknown:
That's so fascinating where you said that. Expanding.
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The experience are expanding in billions of lives,
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in trillions of lives. Exactly. And that's so fascinating when you said that. Because I was thinking about Far Cry. There are some things in the beginning of the game, of some of them games. If you kill a person that is normally be involved in the scene of the characters, the whole game goes differently. Because you have different friends, you have different outcomes, you have different gangs, you have different weapons.
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And you can only make one choice.
[01:28:34] Unknown:
Yeah, you can. The choice you make in the beginning will be there for the whole game. You can eventually start again. But you have to play the complete game to get over it again.
[01:28:49] Unknown:
When we look at real life, for example, every situation has one choice. But the options of choices can be 2 choices, 3 choices, maybe a 1000000000 choices. Mhmm. But whatever choice out of the choices you make is 1. And you can't go back in time to think, oh, this choice, had a really bad outcome. I want the other choice right now. No. Doesn't happen. It does happen when you have the same situation happen again. You can say, oh, I made this choice. It didn't work. I now go and choose this choice. Right. So every situation, how big or small, always has just one choice.
[01:29:31] Unknown:
Even if you can Multiple outcomes and multiple Multiple options. Right.
[01:29:35] Unknown:
Infinite options? One choice. For example, if someone, if you, tell me, Eos, tomorrow I wanna do another podcast with you about, this because it was really instant. And I'm like, well, tomorrow I got a lot of, stuff to do. But on the other end, the podcast also sounds interesting. So the options I could say is no, because I have other things to do Mhmm. Or yes, because I like it. But I can also say, let me think about it and I will answer you tomorrow. Right. So a choice isn't always yes or no. It's soul types, a delay, or
[01:30:16] Unknown:
a Yes. That's why I like the things I learned in sales because I give you options. Just like you said. And now it's now it's it's you diving into me. So I would say to you, Yoast, are you interested in, doing another podcast? So that's only yes or no. Right? Right. Right. When I know that you're interested in, I need to settle down a schedule of time and date. That's the hardest part. To get you interested is is is one. But now comes the hardest part. Most people will say, so, tomorrow at 7 o'clock? Oh, no. I gotta work. Oh, no. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, multiple of things of no. The answer yes is only 1%.
But if I tell you, what about tomorrow 7 o'clock Or tomorrow, 9 o'clock? Oh, all of a sudden, you have 2 choices in one day. The only answer you can give when it's not gonna be 7 o'clock or 9 o'clock is it it's not gonna be tomorrow. It will be another day. So you're still interested in the stuff that I'm saying. Exactly. This is so fascinating. People use this. Even if you, Hey, Joanne, I wanna go to the hairdresser. Oh, yeah. Hey, Joanne. Let's make an appointment. You know how? Friday, 6 o'clock, or Monday, 2 o'clock. Two options. You know exactly what time or what date they are going to willing to get that they have, done.
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Another really, interesting thing about question asking, when you look at the media, talk programs or whatever, when they invite a guest, they want to corner into a certain corner. They start to ask yes or no questions. And if they ask an open question and someone has to, first of all, make a sort of introduction to come to the answer, they let them do the introduction, and then they speak out the words as if they are in that person's mouth. They say, oh, so you're saying a or you're saying b. And then this person will be like, no, I'm not saying a or b. Yes. But you were saying this and that. Yes. I was, you know Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Getting into that kind of So the media is is it is always their way of asking questions is to gather you, to trap you, to to make you say yes or no. Well, answers aren't always yes or no. There are.
[01:33:09] Unknown:
Think about this, Joost, and all the listeners. It's not about, only the media. It's also about the government and police. They ask you questions to get into into their system. I said, do you understand me? Do you stand under me? No, I do not. And second of all, I do not answer questions. Yes, but blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No, I don't. I'm sorry. Well, you gotta go with us. Fine. What's the reason you took me my free time to the police station? Well, to ask you some questions. Well, I don't answer questions because if there's no, when there's no, victim or when there's no materialistic damage, there is no way you can get me out of the street in my free time when there's no such thing like, oh, we wanna invest this or that. Why is there an investigation?
Is there a crime scene, a victim, or damage? No. Thank you. I don't answer questions.
[01:34:27] Unknown:
So what you basically do is the best strategy, answer a question with a question. There's the best strategy to put down those kind of bullshits or the shit offs the media, the police, whatever.
[01:34:41] Unknown:
Yep. It's hard, and I don't want to get involved in that kind of stuff. If I have to, I will. Because it's and that's one thing too. You have to identify yourself. No, I'm not. I have to identify myself against a police officer when there is a case, not a suspect, but a case of crime. Against you? Against me or a person or an object. Like you destroyed a window, or you kicked someone in the balls on the streets, or you hit someone. Or you speeded with your car and they, Well, that's not the law, but that's a rule. I won't do that again.
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Yes.
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Right? Is is that a law I can't drive too fast? Now we have rules here that you can't drive too fast. Ah, okay. So that's a rule. They will say it's you, you trespass the law. No, it's not a law, my friend. It's not in the books like, no one can drive to No, it's a rule we made together. But that's something completely different than a law, my friend. Do this. Let's continue because, when we started this podcast, we were talking about it, Jost. We were both quite, not out of energy, but a little bit, you know, tired and stuff like that. And when I got into some objects, I'm gonna be so excited, you noticed that probably.
Was that a fucking orb? Dude, I saw something like crossing my screen, oh wait, where's it going? Like that way, just like Hello.
[01:36:42] Unknown:
What's the time frame? I'm making the fucking thing. Okay. Alright. Jost. I know what you mean. About the light side path, one last thing I wanted to say about that is, going into a retreat. When you have some burnouts or you are, kind of struggling with yourself.
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When you're done with society for a moment.
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Go into a retreat. If it's a monastery, you know, Christian, or if it's a Buddhist temple or the Hare Krishna, it doesn't matter. Mhmm. However, one place I can really, advise going to, even for you after the jungle Mhmm. Radamesh. Where is that? If you can let me share the screen, I can show it to you. Yes. It's in the in the middle of, of nature. It's it's it's absolutely beautiful. In Europe? Yes. Yes. In,
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wait a minute. I gotta show you. Radadash.
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Radadash. Radadash.com. And it's, they have a museum. They have a restaurant. The castle. Oh, wow. They're a culture. They grow their own foods. They have their own, cows, the raw milk. They drink raw milk, so not, Like the real milk with all the enzymes in it and stuff like that. And they have a retreat center, so you can go there for a week just to experience a spiritual, life. They give, how do you say that? A Brahman will speak every day. Mhmm. And then they will chant, and then they will eat and dance together. Wow. So it's it's an amazing place. However, it isn't allowed to use substances there.
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Hey, I'm free. I'm I'm Yeah. Yeah. Well, well, I should go to the bakery.
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Even chocolate and coffee are substances
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they don't use. Ah, shit. Well, okay. That's not a little monkey. But what you told me about the chocolate that they make themselves.
[01:39:08] Unknown:
Exactly. It they like chocolate, but it isn't chocolate. And they, are vegetarians. They, they don't eat meat, but they eat, milk products. So they get their, protein and whatever out of milk and out of, sort of vegetables.
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Mhmm.
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But it's a really nice place to go to. They have a museum, a restaurant, and it's in the middle of the, Ardene.
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Alright. That's not that far away from here. Just What's the what's the place called?
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And it's in the middle of nature. It's it's really going Luxembourg. Derby, Dubai. Anyways, it's it's really amazing to to go to a place like that because you, walk from the novel system, novel society
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Right.
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Into a really high spiritual place. And, like I said, you will get teachings out of the Vedic scriptures. You will eat Vedic food, Ayurveda, it's called, or hyphida or whatever, people call it in English. You will meet a lot of different people. There are homeless people there. There are rich people there. All sorts of people all come there for the for the same goal, to get connected to a higher consciousness, to to chant together, to meditate together, to do the chores. But even if they do the chores like, cleaning the castle or cooking or whatever, they do all the chores in a medit native state of consciousness.
So even yours is meditating. So, basically, you are 247 meditating when you are there. You are living in a, the whole ambiance, everything is in the higher consciousness right there. So when it comes to the light side path, what what I'm trying to say is go to a retreat. It doesn't matter what religion, as long as it fits with you personally.
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Right. It could be with a tent and a motorcycle to a lake in Norway. Right? Yeah. It could be it could be I'm always in my zen mode, probably doing the best reiki that I ever did for myself is putting them play guitar. Right? It's my my zone that I feel comfortable with. But when you are alone and when you don't do, like I do podcasting work and stuff like that, I have my real free time. When I can do that stuff, that's my spiritual, growth. A lot of people don't have that time. They need to escape reality for a week, or strong as I prefer to say, or 2, to get into that mindset, to to to connect to the highest being that they are. And that's why going to retreats,
[01:42:34] Unknown:
same as you are going to the Jerkneel. Right. Going to retreats like Radha Desh, and there are many temples worldwide. Mhmm. Just go there with an open mind. Is it Or Christian or whatever, just go there and just experience it because it's all about experience.
[01:42:52] Unknown:
Is this something like, I don't know if it's still a story or if it's true that, you know, that that people can just knock on the door of of a monastery and say, I wanna be a monk.
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Well, in Christianity, it's it's not as easy as easy anymore, but at the Hare Krishna, you can go there and just Stay there. Stay there. Or you can just go into retreats, temporary retreats, or you can stay there forever.
[01:43:26] Unknown:
I should give my trailer and my motorcycle all my materialistic stuff, except my podcasting stuff and the stuff that I really like, like with guitars and stuff like that, to the Hare Krishna. And when I come back, I just go into the monastery. And you you know that it sounds really good, to be honest with you?
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I have been there. I have, slept there in those, I was in, Altverde,
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Belgium. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
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And the most beautiful thing was that Raman there, he had a wife, but they never had kids. So me and my friend, we went there several times and he said, I always like to have young people around here. I was around 20 back then because he said, Krishna, God never allowed us to have children of our own. So afk reach out, dev comes here. Is our child. I treat them as my own. So not only did he teach us a lot about the fatty culture and or whatever, but he also, took us to the Beastboss. Uh-huh. Go in a kayak kayaking. Right. Right. Running.
And, I never done that before. So I was looking at the water and struggling, and he was, like, he was saying, go back to the Vedic teachings. Don't look what you are doing. Look at where you want to go. Look straight ahead, and the rowing will go by itself. Right. Where you are focused towards where you wanna go, the rest of your money follows. Right. And your boat and whatever. So during those events, it was just, going out, drinking as a farm, rowing, whatever, walking outside the nature, doing other fun stuff. Right. But doing that, he was giving lessons to us.
[01:45:28] Unknown:
I think that there was, it's been 20 years ago minimum, that I think it was the back one, the back one? I think it was, oh sure, it wasn't going to the Netherlands, but I think it was in Kelpen Oler, near, Ramond. I don't know for sure if it was a Baghuan or it was Osho. Osho is Baghuan. Is he still alive? No.
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No. No, he was poisoned,
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and he died. I saw that documentary, you know, that's really, when you see a documentary, I really love the way they did it. I think they did it. The way they lived. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, just like wacko and stuff like that, everything is gonna be all right until some 3 letter agents are popping up and destroying everything.
[01:46:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Osho got, poisoned. Bob Marley. Bob Marley got shot. Bob Marley, went to the hospital with a broken foot, and he came out with cancer. Isn't that strange? Oh, shit. And he died.
[01:46:38] Unknown:
Here, there's something, I reached out just like, well, it's been centuries ago, but Hitler's American France, Henry Ford and Nazism, he was a big friend of the key American Yeah. Well, Henry Ford not only helped deeply produced personal views, but also became one of Hitler's key American friends in the years before the war. So when I say about the the Volkswagen, that was 100% one of the ideas of Henry Ford. Just like, okay, give them something that they can be mobilized and treat them well. And Hitler treated his people really well. I was listening to one of his speeches quite a while ago because somehow, with with this censorship, they are not allowed anymore to censor historical speeches, which is good.
And, I speak fluently, not only German, but also English and Dutch. It's really, really fascinating, and the speeches are all been translated and subtitled in English. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not like, what's it called? I don't like Nazism or stuff like that, but listening, listen to these speeches. He said exactly where he was fighting against, it's the same enemy as we are dealing right now. Right the fuck now, that was the real battle of enemies that he said. It's it's really mind blowing.
[01:48:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, like I always say, history lessons are written by the, winners. Never By the losers. 100%. So for example, World War 2 was mostly ended by the Russians. Yes. I think around 10,000,000 Russians soldiers. But not in one history book do they mention the Russians. They always mention the English and the Americans saving us. I always point it out closely. Well, the Russians. The English only came to, shoot shoot the last soldiers that were left.
[01:49:18] Unknown:
Dude, when you see Band of Brothers, which is D Day, they took 1 year from the beaches of France to get to Berlin. Yeah. The Red Army was attacking and went to Berlin. Without the Russians, we would all speak German. Exactly. But then, all of a sudden, there was this cold war and this stupid stuff going on. As a child, I was saying, what's that stupid? And of course I got, I got family from Germany. So they, they, they saw it at first sight. The hotel that we had in early days was confiscated by the Nazis because it was a route from Germany to the Netherlands. And it was headquarters back then. And we didn't like that.
But also my grandma said he was such a he was such an amazing dude for the German people. Holy crap. Until the war really started when when the whole world wanted to get to war, to Germany. The 1st 3 years, he just invaded countries without any attacking, or whatever, because everyone was applauding, because there was, all of a sudden, the hero came to town.
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Certainly, but
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Well, that's a different story. That's another podcast of a few hours. Absolutely.
[01:50:58] Unknown:
Looking at the time, should I go to my book?
[01:51:03] Unknown:
Yes. And should I? What's the time anyways? Because, okay, we're now 2 hours, 2 and a half hours in?
[01:51:11] Unknown:
Yeah. I think we do. Yes.
[01:51:14] Unknown:
Okay. If you wanna touch base, on religion, please do. I'm gonna give it another half hour maximum so you have enough time to promote your book, to tell us about your book, why you wrote that book, what the information is of that book. I will promote my little book, too. Yeah. Well, when it comes to the book Because you've helped me out. Jost has helped me out because I know a lot of things about technical stuff, but he said, you translate your book already in German and in English and stuff like that. I said, oh, man, you know how much work that is? 5 minutes later, I received a message that's like, oh, I just translated for you.
Thank you, big tech companies, for that. You are very welcome. I haven't done it in German yet, but I just got to find the time. But yeah. When Listen. I mean, religion and the white side, I think
[01:52:14] Unknown:
everything has been said the last, episode at this one. Yes. The difference between religion and spirituality, the power of, chanting together. We didn't have that, Dwight. No. We covered that one with Ben.
[01:52:35] Unknown:
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. In Chicago, but but for for for, the people that didn't listen to that episode, just listen to it. It's free. Please, Joost, tell them about the power of chanting with more people than 1.
[01:52:53] Unknown:
Well, the the the biggest thing is, when you are in the temple, like the Hare Krishna or even a, Catholic church, it doesn't matter where you are. When people are praying and focusing together on getting the same thing, a better world, when you enter a certain temple, when you are sensitive to it, you already feel the energy. Mhmm. Like I said, when I, you know, first first time came in connection with the Hare Krishna people, the first thing I felt was love, but a higher love, not the love that we know as humans amongst each other, but not even the friendship love, but and even higher laugh than that. You you instantly feel it right there because the people there are nonstop focusing on their higher self.
Nonstop. 247. Even when they are asleep, they are being devoted. So, yeah, I really believe that there is a lot of power in when people come together and pray or chant or, do mantras or Or sing sing at a concert with a favorite band? Even that or whatever you do. Oh, you do Tai Chi, stuff like I did, said last, Tai. Right. Right. Whatever you do, collectively, in my opinion, is way stronger than what what you can do alone. Right. However, I also believe in in, like, what Buddha did. Go alone, take a long bath on the mountain. Go sit there and go to Guard yourself and shut the fuck up for a moment and deal deal with your demons.
Exactly. But That's also really powerful. But in my opinion, you got to do both.
[01:54:48] Unknown:
Yeah, and I want to touch base a little bit on that because, yesterday we were talking about manifestation, right? So you can manifest everything because you're manifesting already everything in your life. But the the the magic happens when you give up, when you really do not know anymore how to deal with the situation, when you're stuck and where you say, I just, when you really break down, then things start to shift. So when you are, like the story of Buddha or whatever person, and you go to the extremes with yourself, with fastening, with, you know, being alone or whatever, deal with your own demons because everyone has some, When you face that, you you will be one moment strike down, and you have to realize, wait a minute.
Then the consciousness comes back again. You pointed it out with the samurai. Right? That thought he had to deal with some entities and some enemies on the hill, but when he climbed that hill he thought, wait a minute.
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Yeah. He wanted to go to prayer to a certain statue, but he went back along the way because he thought, wait, I forgot. I always depended on my higher self, so why do I have to go to suit the statue? But the most beautiful part, he did thank the statue. He did say thank you to it and whatever. Right. Because it's still there for the audience. I need to believe. I need to believe. I need to inside it. It was always inside me to start with. Right. Miyamoto Musashi.
[01:56:32] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, I love to do podcasts. Dude, I I learned so much. It's really it's I love this. And and I'm connecting more and more dots like, is Jupreke? Yes. Well, for the American people, just look it up. Easelcheplicje.
[01:56:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Spirituality, spirituality, the the isolation part and the group part, both are important. And I think, the moment when you reach your highest version of enlightenment, those films are always alone, in my opinion. When you look at at his history, when you look at the bible, even if it happened or not not happened, it doesn't matter. The story is always that person is alone at that moment. At the last at the the last struggle, the last
[01:57:31] Unknown:
You can have mentors on your way that show you how they did it, or the way you can achieve it. Or a problem. Yeah. But you have to achieve it alone, always.
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The last step, especially. Yeah. And it will be dark. I truly believe that. I even believe that some, like Halaster Crowdy, like in the Dark Side podcast, he went to that point and he went totally Dark Side because it was too too much for him to handle, I guess. Yeah. But the thing is,
[01:58:11] Unknown:
and I think that that that's why I like to do podcasts, not only with you, but with a lot of other people to think about stuff, right? We are in a really special group of special retards because we are critical thinkers. Would you get lost in the dark side or would you get lost in the bright side? Both sides have their demons. Like, if you are only on the bright side, like, you know, you're you're you're a fucking, fairy tale, you know, everything is glitter, and everything is positive, and everything is this and that. You will be just as lost as someone who is facing demons all the time.
[01:59:06] Unknown:
Not the first time I met you on on that, beach? Yes. Remember what I said my highest goal in life is, balance between my light side and my dark side. Yeah. To, find a path that both my inner demon and my inner higher self, so, tell to me that's the way we both wanna go. Exactly. Yeah. I think that's the highest purpose of all in life, to, conjunctuality inside yourself.
[01:59:40] Unknown:
Yes. I talked about it yesterday. That's why the thing is so fascinating. And, I think you're going to listen to that episode too. I think you'll listen to, David Wavey's, from, The Red Pill Cartel podcast, on that show from Todd, Cave. He connects the dots exactly as you do. That's why I think it's so fascinating because it's deep thinking. It's the knowledge not about a book, about the books. Connecting the dots. What is the names? When was the timeline? When you do that What all those people have in common? Yes. The Christ, the Krishna. Exactly. And the Christ and Krishna, they're all the same person, if you have to, if you see through.
And just like Buddha said and what Christ said, you have to do the enlightened path. Where is the path? It's in the middle. But what comes to find that path?
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Darkness and lightning. Think about the theory. God splitting itself up to gain experiences and coming back. That would explain why all those figures are the same figure. Right. Because they are all experiences from the same source. They went in blank, and they went back full of, experience information. Right. Same as artificial intelligence. It's it's a program. Mhmm. It it collects certain data, and eventually, it, gets this proof. But AI also gets information from every human being that is using AI. So that's basically the same kind of concept. It's it's an, intelligent form that's basically collecting every experience, every, conversation with that with every user.
Right. And the every user will become that AI because all the information from all the users combined will be in the AI. So if you talk to ChetGPT, parts of you will become Cheggppt,
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if you know what I mean. Yeah. But what really fascinating is too is when you see, 2 generations before me, for example. So
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my
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granddad and grandma, they weren't at all into technological stuff like TV. Just like, what the hell is that? Warm water, we don't know that. Toilet, what's that? We just- All the deep night for radio. Right. So then you got a generation, which is probably my mom and dad. And well, just after the war, when they were born, a lot of things happened, you know, comfortable technology and stuff like that. I'm generation X, so 73. That means I'm in in quite in the middle of the generation X, stuff. So I was born and, there wasn't Internet and stuff like that. My youth wasn't without Internet, was without Internet and stuff like that.
And all of a sudden, we work with that kind of stuff. Yeah. But now comes the fascinating thing. When you see little kids right now, they can use a telephone already. Although we have to learn to adapt with computers and how does it work. Well, this is gonna be the future. Well, I did first of all, I didn't pay attention to anything like computers until I saw, Return to Castle Wolfenstein on a friend's computer. I said, I need that.
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Yeah. It was exciting.
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That was really cool. That was, you know, but nowadays, so what I'm trying to say is that what my mom probably and I can't figure out on a mobile telephone, the new generation with 5, 6 years old knows exactly in another language where to find that. That's creepy. Because what do they have next that makes them more, what's the next trigger for them to learn? You know what I'm trying to say here?
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Yeah. And what I think is the next thing for those generations to learn is going back to basics. Yeah. It's 5th healthy. Growing your own food,
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organic. This is a perfect segue for your book. Get it on. Get it on. You know,
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I show what I got
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so far because it's Yes. Maybe a little introduction why you wrote it and, for whom?
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Yeah. Well, the reason why I wrote it is is is is really simple. Like I said, I'm much of an observer. I see things happening in the world. Mhmm. And, yeah, I start thinking about why is this happening, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I put, puzzle pieces together, you know? Mhmm. And I see a lot of people, they see puzzle pieces and they talk about the puzzle piece. They see a certain part of the news, a certain event happening, but they can't figure out why things are happening. Mhmm. Just like with the pharmaceutical in industry, people take a medicine for the symptom, but they never take a medicine for the cause.
Right. So people are always like, they are fighting the symptoms, and they are never fighting the bigger picture. So what I wanna do with with my book, the most important thing is to give them the bigger picture.
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I love that. I love that.
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And yeah. Let me, share the screen for a moment. The Dutch version, I I written a lot of, a lot of stuff in already. However, the English version, I only have the what it's gonna look like, the chapters. Okay. So I'm going to share the English version. I will first write it in Dutch and eventually I will translate it using AI and whatever into English. And I will use a lot of sources from the mainstream media, from science, but also strong alternative, media because, what I believe in is that, every story have different sides. The mainstream media, even if they are lying, do have certain truths in it. Mhmm. The alternative medias, media like conspiracy theories, a lot of conspiracy theories are just to make a lot of money.
A lot of people who push out certain books about aliens and whatever, they never come with proof, but they make a lot of money out of selling those books and those theories. Right? However, there can be certain truth in those conspiracy theories. So when I when I come to a story, I want to have every single angle from it. The conspiracy angle of the, better say the wild conspiracy angle Mhmm. The L01. I want the mainstream media, and I want the normal alternative speaks facts but doesn't go into aliens and, whatever. Right. I want all pieces and put it together into my version of the truth. And as always, it eats all those ticks. Mhmm. Okay.
Anyways, here is the title of my book, How to Beat the System. I love that picture. A practical and spiritual guide to a better world. And this picture basically says everything that's gonna be in the book. You see a person meditating in the middle. Mhmm. And he has choices, nature or industry. And how far should the industry go? When you look at the right picture, you see trash, you see pollution, whatever. Mhmm. When you look at the left side, it's where you are going to go soon. The jungle. Yeah. The jungle. Back to the basics, back to nature. And this person is living in the world you and I are living in. We don't live in the jungle. We live in the middle, in the pathway. In duality of both.
When you look at the Netherlands we live in, we have beautiful places in nature, but also really ugly place places in industry.
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Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
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Tata Steel, Chemours. DSM. Those companies are polluting our drinking water. Yeah. Anyways, this is a picture, a picture says more than a lot worse. The title How to Beat the System, a Practical and Spiritual Guide to a Better World, and then the contents. The first thing is the theory of the social pyramid. It's the one I talked about in the very first podcast. Mhmm. At a glance from a bird view to fly above it and and see how it works, the creators, the 1%, the elite. Mhmm. The policy makers, those are the think tanks like the World Economic Forum, WHO Mhmm. NATO, whatever. All those all those think tanks that that think for the 1% out to make the 1% Witcher.
Mhmm. Then, a chapter about the base of the pyramid and how important the base is the 99%, the hard workers. How important these people are for the 1%. If all these people say no to the 1%, it's game over. The pyramid will exist no longer. Right. You talked about earlier in this podcast. Yeah. Then there's a chapter about learning to think and live above the pyramid, then governments, life companies and lobby clubs. Now, governments, after elections, you can elect once in 4 years, you can vote. And then after they you you voted and they got the result, the government instantly go to the large companies at lobby clubs, and they say, well, what are we gonna do now that we are ruling?
Mhmm. Never listening to to the civilians and the and the base of the pyramid. They always listen to the the the the the upper parts. Right. Then I have, a part about the biggest money machine in the world, war. Mhmm. Divide and conquer strategies because, the 1% knows the base is so strong the bay in one day, in one second, the base can destroy the whole pyramid. So to make the base serve the 1%, they have to divide and conquer strategies. So I gonna write about that as well. Then, this is something, Einstein wrote. In the midst of every crisis like great opportunities. Mhmm.
Klaus Schwab from the World Economic Forum also uses this. He he really truly loved the COVID crisis. I think he gossed it as well, but that's that's a conspiracy in there. But to him, the COVID crisis was a big opportunity to get a great reset, to get agenda 2030, to get agenda 2,045. So I'm going to write about those as well. So this is, what I said in the first podcast. So compare that. How the pyramid works, the the top down, tip. Try above it, learn how it works, and I'm gonna write down how it works, and then, yeah, then you know how it works, how the system works. Okay.
Chapter 2. And chapter 1, I, sent to you. I already written it. I said Right. So you can read it and, please give your feedback while you wait. I will. Chapter 2 is the bottom up approach, what I talked about, to build your own system besides the system. For example, oxygen, clean air, and reefing. Mhmm. How do you gain that? If you live in a big city, you don't have clean air. But if you live in a smaller town, you get clean air. So that is one step you can do within the system to build your own system. Go live somewhere where there is clean air. Simple. Water. I gonna write about that. Filter your own water. Food.
Build your own food. Grow your own food. Sports and exercise. I gonna write about sports and exercises that doesn't always have to cost money. Mhmm. I mean, if you go outside, put on your running shoes or even no shoes at all, and you start walking or running, that's that's sports and exercise.
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And what what what is a very good one is primal moves, which is basically, monkey walk, crab walk, all that stuff. Look it up on the Internet. Primal moves is really good because you need to, you need your own body, strength. You're strengthening your body while you're doing it.
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Yeah. Primal. And as possible exercise, I also add stuff like, Tai Chi and, yudo and stuff like that. Yeah. Then we have the mental health. As you know, I went to a psychologist. My my treatment is stopped. It's I have I am treated. Mhmm. But sometimes you need most of the things you can, cure yourself, but sometimes you need some help. So I come right about, don't be afraid to ask help when you need a better mental health. Yeah. Very good one. Don't be afraid to go to a regular doctor, to a regular psychologist. Sometimes you need it. Sometimes you can't solve it on your own. So Right.
That's also the bottom up because, the bottom up is building blocks. Mhmm. From air to water, to food, to exercise, to mental health, to spirituality, and mindfulness. We discussed the spiritual parts already. Mindfulness is tai chi and stuff like that. Yoga, Mediterranean, whatever. Self care, and with self care, I mean the shampoos and the soaps you use. Right. Domestic care, what kind of soaps are you going to use to clean your house? Clean your bathroom. For example, if your bathroom is filthy, you can use the bathroom cleaners that are toxic toxic as hell. Mhmm. Or you can use vinegar, which is Yeah. Or green soap. The the old green soap.
Exactly. Green soap and vinegar works better than every chemical bullshit. Then I, write a part about social media that that's basically is brain killing us. I stopped every type of social media. I deleted all my accounts, because I believe in real social contacts and connection. When I quit, TikTok and I told you I wanna meet you in real life. I wanna do something with you in real life because that's real social connection.
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Right. Right.
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Out of social media, you get a certain social connection, but you don't don't get satisfaction. You do don't get the real interaction. So that's also a path I come right about. Right. Because I think the youth today needs to learn how to social interact again, how to, find real love, friendships, whatever. So there's also gonna be a part of financial health. And financial health is not to be rich, but to have enough money to get these basics.
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Right. Right. Yeah.
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Because you don't need, I got a big collection of transformers which got which cost a 1,000 of euros Mhmm. Because I had it. But do I need them? No. I don't. Right. Like them, but, yeah. We also mentioned that letting go, spiritual pathway.
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Yes. I got it now with my motorcycle. I love my motorcycle, but, I have to let it go.
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So when it comes to financial health, eventually, I have to let go of those transformers. It will hurt a bit, but when it comes to spiritual pathway Mhmm. It will enlighten me letting it go. Right. Because, in the movie 5 Club, Brad Pitt says, everything you own ends up owning you.
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That's a good movie too, man. 5 Club.
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And that movie is also about, what do we really need in life? Because at the end, they blow up every financial system. They blow up the pyramid.
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Yes. And it's it's about someone who has visions in his own mind about someone else. That is So Tyler Burden isn't
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is not a real person. Exactly. Because a character is living in this system, and the other characters tries to get him into this system.
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Because he says you don't need to lead that bullshit. Oh, fuck. Yeah. I'm gonna look at that. Well, that's a long time ago that I looked. It's a that's a mind fucking.
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So chapter 1 and 2 will be fight at work, basically. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
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Exactly. Right. Please continue to chapter 3, the dangers of the digital world.
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And that will be about Microsoft, Google, Apple, and Meta. Mhmm. Basically, about their eavesdropping because everything we say, even this book that I'm typing, the CIA has my book already. Yeah. I don't care. Let them come, motherfuckers. Right. Because I am already sharing the book while it's not done already. Because if I'm gone for for whatever reason, you can finish this book. Right? You can write this this this part. Right. You know what to put down here. And you
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Dude, you just touched base on something that I struggled with a long, long time. Like, oh, I can do this, I can do that. I had, well, videos, I had all the stuff in my head, but didn't put it on the internet. Nowadays, even when I finish this podcast, I'm going to take it out and make content, I put it out. Even if I'm gone, people are listening to the stuff that I said, or people that I had on. Exactly. And it doesn't have to be perfect. In the early days, I was a perfectionist, which means it's never good enough to put it out. I struggled, well, evenings, mornings with content for my boss. And I went to to, to my, office with with 2 hours of sleep. And and I still didn't think it was all right.
And everyone was just fine with the the content that I gave. Yeah. But in my mind, it was not enough. But nowadays, just put it out, man. Just just like you said, just put it out. Well, when it comes to perfection,
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I've written the first chapter. What I did was, do what Hariri from the World Economic Forum said. Work together with AI. So I've written down a sub chapter chapter. I gave it to Ariari. Mhmm. Can you fact check it? What I've written down. Oh, wow. Everything was fact. And, about the pyramids, I was asking AI, what do you think about this pyramid theory? And the AI said it was really interesting, and I said, can you give me other theories that, can be compared to it? And it gave me theories that had only parts of it. Only parts. So I said, so, basically, I I said, check GPT. So, basically, my pyramid is a combination of every system and pyramid you just told me.
Right. Yes. So basically, every the master of pyramid, every pyramid that exist, I put together into 1 pyramid. And Chef CPG said to me, yes, you are right. So I work to get and I also let it do the grammar and the spelling or whatever, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And what I also did, I write a chapter and I say, well, you, got the context of this chapter. What would you add? With brilliant ideas that I could never think about. So I said, well, fuck it. Edit. Rewrite my chapter and fucking edit. Add it to the, to the chapter because I need your input as well. So work together with AI as long as you can. It's really
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I have to be honest with you. I didn't do that with my book. I didn't do that with my course, but I did made some content with AI and it's astonishing. It's fast. It's, it's very reliable. You have to check it, though. But, even my podcast, all the scripts and stuff like that is all AI generated.
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And you can brainstorm and think tank with with it. Yes. Yes.
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It's with your, virtual assistant that is 24 hours a day available for a quest for jobs for forever. I need to know more about that. But let's continue to chapter 3, the dangers of the digital the dangers of social media, which is a big one for a lot of people.
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And basically, this turns people into zombies.
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Yeah. 100%. And to a,
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those 2 hormones you get. Those those those happiness making And morphine and,
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endorphine and, shit. What was the other one?
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People are what what you mean. Right? But adrenaline. But social media is pushing those hormones to a level that aren't healthy. Yeah. So that is why I say get into real social contact because then you get the hormone in the slow way and you remain happy. Then I have the mobile phones, the eavesdropping practices, the future of the digital world, and AI Mhmm. The goods and the bads because AI does have goods. This is why I say, watch the Hariri interview that I gonna send to you after this podcast. Mhmm. Even though he is a evil fucking bastard, nobody is pure evil, and not every information for the world from the World Economic Forum is bad information. Some information is good.
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Yeah. And we can program bots with, explosive devices against them. So that that, not that's against us, that they're gonna blow us up, but we can blow them up too. Exactly. Well, right?
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Now then there's first humanism, which we discussed alternative options to Google. You have Doctor. Goebb, for example. Right. But you also have Rumble and BitTude. And lipids and open source, which I already written a part about. So I can copy paste this part. And here, I also written a lot of, parts. I sent the those all to you in English and Dutch. So I can literally copy paste all this stuff. Right. So this chapter is also done, but in small parts. Then there is the, chapter 4, and that's the,
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the first podcast we did. I'm sorry to interrupt you, Jost. How many chapters do you have?
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6. Only 6. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's a small book. This will be basically our first podcast.
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Mhmm. Coetz and your Power. Aleister Crowley, Anson Laveau, modern satanism, satanism, vampirism, Scientology, cults with politics. Thank you for making it a little bit bigger for my little eyes. Cults within the business world, cults in the entertainment world, the energy sucking vampires, pedophiles in highest social positions, religious and satanism with the gangs and mafia, which is really interesting because when it comes to cults in the entertainment world, someone pointed out about the funeral of Queen Elizabeth. They did some kind of, wish, wish, whatever the fuck they do, and they, broke a wand. So, like, you know, like Harry Potter with a wand, And they broke it. So it basically said, Riptic, that the spell of Hollywood was done.
Yeah. Which it's and and when you see the world stage and when you know how to read between the lines, if you wanna know more about that, read the book, The Alchemist from Paulo Coelho. When you when you know what kind of science you have to look at, and of course, listen to a podcast, disorganized productions, and listening to Jose, his episodes, the first, the second, and this one. You you will be waking the fuck up very fucking fast.
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Yeah. Exactly. So this will be about my own experience within dark side and and other stuff. Right. Like the Yapseen case, the Diddy case, pedophiles in the high positions. Then there is, defeating the system and the elite. Right. Part of it, of defeating is is is this, the chapter 2. Right? Build a system besides the system that sustains you. Defeating the system. Large companies and a monopoly and the power of small scale. Mhmm. So one of the things to beat the system is to stop buying bullshit from the big companies and buy everything from smaller, shop owners.
Yeah. 100%. Bring the money back to the people instead of to the big 1%. Because when you buy from Amazon, buy from bolt.com, you give large companies more power. So buy from
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Dude, I was thinking about that today. What if we pay our taxes with cash?
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They would be, they would have a really big problem because There isn't a lot there isn't enough paper cash for the the the total amount of taxes. Oh, let's bring that fucker down. Because if everybody pays it in in cash, first of all, there won't be enough cash. Right. Most money is the digital.
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Which is not Yeah. That will totally fuck up the system. Yes. And especially if you pay, like, euros, like €1, at a time. So if you have to pay tax, like 300, €300, it's gonna be, what, 300 separate coins. Or when you have to pay 25,000, you can pay it also in small amounts. And they have to they have to take it because it's still a currency a currency.
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So yeah. Fucked up. Anyways, to the next part. The power of small, businesses and employ employment. Mhmm. Because, a small business treats their workers better because they know, getting good workers is is is rare. So the ones they got, they're gonna treat really well, better salaries, better whatever. The big companies want the highest profit for the lowest costs. And you and me, we are the cost of the ballot. Then, shim democracy, the illusion of voting rights, that you can't vote with your, with the once in a 4 years voting. That doesn't help. No. And I will also advise everyone, stop voting.
Then the whole system won't work anymore. Because if nobody votes it, they think, woah. What's happening? Yeah. Consume more wisely and as, also not buying at large companies, but also, when you want to buy something, meditate on it. Do I really need it? Or is it just an impulse?
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Dude, the best thing to do that is when you fast for like, let's say, last dinner that you had is at 6 o'clock in the evening, right? You don't eat anything, you go to bed, you wake up at 7 o'clock in the morning, which is already 13 hours later. Right? Then you it's 7 o'clock, 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock. Let's say you eat something because you're really grave something to eat between 10 o'clock in the morning and 12 o'clock in the morning, like noon. It's, like, 13, 14, 50. It's, like, 16 to 17 hours fastening without doing anything.
You take your whatever the fuck you want. And if you take, for example, the cranberries or or strawberries in the morning as for as first, look at it. Before you eat it, look at it. Put it in your mouth and taste it. Feel the structure. Chew on it. Dude, that's that's so awesome.
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Yeah. You're really experiencing eating again. Exactly.
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And what do you need to eat? A lot of people eat 3 meals a day. You don't need that shit. When it goes about eating, there's macrobiotic,
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eating. It's it's gone from Japan.
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Mhmm.
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There are, certain, stages of eating. 1st is just filling your stomach Mhmm. To to to get filled up. That's that's the lowest way of eating. Then there is, for example, the taste of the food. That's that's a little bit better than just filling it. Mhmm. It's fulfilling your your your taste, your bittersweet, whatever, but it's still just for taste. Then there is the nutritious way, like, so much vitamin c, so much whatever. Mhmm. It's also still a low way of eating. And the highest, way of eating is to not only taste it, feel yourself, get nutrition, but also thinking about what the food will do to you also eating it, the long term effects of it. Right. But also the yin and yang of the food. Certain food is yin, other food is yang in in macrobiotic thinking. Mhmm. So that's the highest stage that you feel yourself, get every taste in your food, because if you got the sweet, bitter, sour, salt, and spicy Mhmm.
In one meal, you don't have to snack afterwards because you got every taste in one meal. Right. And and the the biggest thing is what kind of effect has the eating on you. Okay. Anyways, next chapter. Yeah. The benefits
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of secondhand items.
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Like the old furniture that is much stronger, the the IT are rubbish.
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Oh, yeah. But also with clothing and stuff like that. Do you really need that Nike from from €500 and that new trousers? For what? Because it's just like, look at me here. The funny thing is if you have some clothes on your body, and it should look nice, but we are in this, what's it called? It's like consumative kind of way. I don't like that. So the benefits of secondhand items, the voting with your wallet, and the power of boycotts.
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Boycotting the 1% in middle of the year. Jeff Bezos, Beelzebub, and, boycotting Elon Musk, and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then we go to cash,
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CVC, CPG, and the digital euro, the social credit system, 50 United Cities, payment services and subscriptions to news and the media, alternative media, check facts and do your own research, of course, unprovable conspiracy theories and their dangers, becoming self sufficient, which is very, very, very, good to think about, preparing for a possible war, and the game of dividing, conquering the power of unity.
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Right? Yeah. If you work on all these things, I think you can beat the system. And with this, the payments and subscriptions, think about Netflix. Think about renting a house and not owning a house. Think about, leasing a car. Yeah. Everything. So, yeah, that's that's also never ever go into a subscription.
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Oh, yeah. I'll I'll I'll be I'll be fucked for that.
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Yeah. Anyways, this is how I will write about these things and,
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how to beat it. Right. And I think you got chapter 6 also, right? Yes. Yes. Because we need to, take care a little bit of the time. Because, I I talked also a lot, but we're more than 3 hours in, and I don't wanna have trouble again with my software.
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Okay. The the last step we have is the, step by step plan, the practical part. Right. Yeah. So 2 was already practical, and this is about, first of all, try to have a higher purpose in life. When you found found that purpose, write your step by step plan. When you written down the steps, don't think I'm gonna do it all today. No. Small baby steps. One step a day. Because if you want to do it instantly, you fall back. You because you always have 2 steps forward, 2 steps back.
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On a step back. 2 forward, 1 back. The best thing to do that is, is to have, let's say you have a goal for, within a year. Then you have to break it down. What do I have to do, a half year? Well, what do I have to achieve in a half year to get to that goal in a year? Then you break it down in 3 months. Then you break it down in a month. And then you break it down in a week, or as strong as I prefer to say. And then you break it down in a day. What do you have to do every single day a little bit to get to that, strong plan, to get to that monthly plan, to get to that season or, what's it called, period.
And then, eventually, you will achieve that goal.
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Exactly. Here is a part that will happen to everyone falling back into old patterns and learning to recognize them and deal with them. Mhmm. A healthy mind and body. Why that is really important? Because else the plan won't work. Mhmm. Mindfulness and Spirituality. Transforming negative thoughts and situations into positive. You know, something bad happened, but what did I learn out of it? That's a positive thing. Right? Right. Trauma. Dealing with stress, also a really important, part, with the psychologist, dare to seek help.
Being assertive instead of passive, also really important because when you're passive, everybody will walk over you and your plan won't work. So they have to say no. Be honest, not only to your to others, but to yourself. Mhmm. Because if you're honest and honest to other people, you might find people which will help on your path. Because you are honest, they will like you more than when you are lying, and they will help you because you are honest. So be honest to yourself and everybody. Social contacts as soulmates and and not soulmates like one soulmate, but with soulmate, I mean people who have the same kind of goal, like you and I got for example.
Find people that are mates on a soul level, on a spiritual level. Right. And not the soulmate like your, twin flame or whatever people call it. Mhmm. Because I don't believe in that part. But I do believe in that you can meet certain people that are on the same path at the same time, and you need them. Yeah. The highest purpose and sacrifices of letting go, the path you were talking about. Finding balance, also really important, light, dark, whatever. Filling voids because, when you stop an addiction, you got a certain void Mhmm. An emptiness. How to fill it is by finding purpose. Or You don't start a podcast. You don't have time to to fuck around.
Exactly. Anyways, how to fill a void, and that's finding purpose. And purpose is, for example, finding a job that gives you energy. Mhmm. But also a job that, gives to society. When you work at Amazon, you give shit to society. Right. Only gift gift to Jeff Bezos. But when you work at a hospital, you give to society. When you become a teacher or, whatever, you give to society. So a a job full of energy that gives, keep learning and reading because you always gotta evolve your brain. Mhmm. If you stand still, standing still is going back.
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So keep learning, keep evolving, keep Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I got a I got a little different thinking about that, but it depends. I have to read it before I, will say against, well, I'll say my own opinion about it. I think standing still is sometimes looking back at the track that you already have been walked. So then you can see and you can focus on the path you have ahead.
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Yeah. But this that's that's not standing still. Standing still? With standing still, I mean, you got a certain theory, a certain reality, and you wanna stick to it like Christians do. That's what I mean with Okay. Okay. Right. Right. Okay. Because what you mean is is in the retreats, for example. You go into a retreat and you go through your mind and think about everything that happened in the past and you
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Yes. Well, well, well, I say like, we all walk that own we all want to walk to the top of the mountain. But sometimes you have to still stand still to see what path that you already have been conquered. And to really, you have to focus on the path that lies ahead, and the obstacles that lies ahead, and stuff like that, and the challenges.
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And you need to stand still to breathe. Yes, you have to stand still
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to realize that and to look at it. Yeah. And that standing still is to retreat or to ignore. And the jungle, welcome to the jungle. We got fun and games. We got everything you want.
[02:42:28] Unknown:
And and the last thing to to get is is is the financial plan. That's that's always important. Yes. So, yeah, that's basically gonna be the book, the Stand by Step Plan and stick to it. Small steps a day.
[02:42:45] Unknown:
It's fascinating. Joss, I have to say because I know you now for, well, what was that? 4 months? Something like that? 3 months? Yes. And, I saw quite some development, of you, the friendship that we have, the podcast that we have, and the stuff that we bring out, the knowledge that you have, and the wisdom that you have about so many things. And, when I see it here combined in the book, that's something to be very, very proud of, to be honest with you. And I'm really looking forward to see when the book comes out. Do you have a date, or when do you want to bring it out?
[02:43:40] Unknown:
Well, basically, this book is is how my mind works. I'm I'm basically sharing everything that's inside here into the book Right. That I fight in Parsons. I'm not gonna write about transformers because that's also in my mind, but Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just I'll be in yeah. Yeah. Refuse with the same information. Not gonna share that. Right. I will share the stuff that's that's I think is important. However, I only write when I am, fit, when I'm not tired, and when I feel inspiration to write. So I not gonna force myself. However, I write at least 2, 2 times a week, maybe 3. Right. But only when I feel like it because, I try to force write something, but it was total rubbish. It was shit.
Right. Right. Yeah. However, when I'm tired, what I'm doing is listening to podcasts, mostly your podcast, Davey's podcast, whatever, Unchained Brain. Because when I'm tired and I listen to podcasts, I take down information from those podcasts, which I might be able to use in my book. Right. Right.
[02:44:56] Unknown:
I got the closest book by the way. Yes. Yes. Yeah. We're going to wrap it up because I'm going to have really, problems with my software otherwise. Yeah. No worries. This was another great episode. Just to be honest with you, Jules. I think this is the best episode we did so
[02:45:13] Unknown:
far. It's it's the final episode, about the trilogy which I gave. I brought you gotta be in in episodes about other subjects, but not about the big picture subjects.
[02:45:27] Unknown:
No, exactly. And now I was a little bit more interactive with you. I think, it's for a benefit of us both because then we go, I noticed that when we talk together on the phone, that we're going to fuel each other's fire. And we have a lot of knowledge within us, and it resonates with us, it matches with our own plausible truth, let's say. Yeah. And then it makes also very interesting. And then we can touch base on more stuff. Of course, I have to put the, censored oh, no. There's there's a little box I have to take into rumble and stuff like that if it's gonna be explicit lyrics.
And I was on the, I was rambling on the podcast. So when I'm rambling, I use the word,
[02:46:15] Unknown:
fuck and motherfuckers, stuff like that quite a lot. I use this as well, so, yeah. Yeah, it makes sense.
[02:46:22] Unknown:
It makes sense.
[02:46:24] Unknown:
So But, you don't have to check the box nudity, because, I still come from the close also. Okay, cool. That's the good part.
[02:46:34] Unknown:
Juss, where can people, contact you or find you? And by the way, it's 2,220 right now, when I look at my phone for the first time.
[02:46:44] Unknown:
Yeah. I see it as well. Well, where can they find me? This this is gonna be a hard one because I,
[02:46:50] Unknown:
I got a No. Wait a minute. Last time you told me or the the people, like, if you wanna get a get a hold on me, do you have to do it via me? Right? It's via the London Productions. Because I deleted social media. And
[02:47:04] Unknown:
and if you put them in contact with me, I add them to my Telegram or whatever.
[02:47:10] Unknown:
For all listeners, so this is what happens if you if you delete all the social media. You write a fucking book.
[02:47:19] Unknown:
Exactly. Right. And you become not productive because
[02:47:25] Unknown:
I'm not scrolling through bullshit anymore. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But that's the same with with, I didn't realize that in the in the beginning book. When you don't jerk off, when you keep your energy, holy shit. It's, it's really, yeah, I can really recommend that. It's not the easiest way always because, well, every morning he says hi. Sometimes throughout the day, just say, you know, still working, but yeah. It's it's like driving down a bar, but you don't drink. So why would you stop? Right? And like Driving down McDonald's, but you know that you don't eat fast food. So why would you stop? Yeah. Exactly.
[02:48:13] Unknown:
And another thing about my book, the PDF version will always be free because I believe in free information. Mhmm. Even though I spent a lot of time in the on the book and whatever, and I could make money out of it. I I don't want to. However, the snake turbinet, he wants to get it published if it's good enough. So That would be tremendous. So the physical version will cost money, but the PDF, I I don't like the idea of Yeah. And now you oh, 22. But I have to discuss I have to discuss it with,
[02:48:52] Unknown:
the turban hat for details about it. With that turban hat. Yeah. Shout out to snake, my brother snake man.
[02:48:59] Unknown:
Prefer it to be free.
[02:49:01] Unknown:
Yes. Well, it's I gotta tell you something about that. I have quite some content available for free because I believe also in free content, especially when it's to help someone to change their lives. Well, Faith. So on my website, work in progress. Site, which is my coaching site, if you wanna, if you need a personal or a business coaching from me as an experienced, warrior, there is a free, Get Shit Done ebook. It says quite a lot, and it really helps you to get into a mindset about, okay, when you need to get shit done, these are the points you can start with. Right? There's a lot of information available within the podcast that I do. It's free. It's not monetized. It's not with advertising.
That's why you hear this stupid me, asking for some money to go to the jungle. And to be honest, we got one of the guests, Yoast, which is the the biggest producer at the time of disorganized productions to keep it all real and to keep it running and to do the stuff that I do. And I really do thank you from the bottom of my heart.
[02:50:23] Unknown:
Yeah. I I felt like I said, I gave a lot of, other people, in in our group, some gifts. And I thought, I haven't given you something, so here it is.
[02:50:34] Unknown:
Yeah. I I it's really appreciated, Bob. But because, yeah. And sometimes you have to struggle. So basically back on on, I wrote a book. It's not that big. I really do want to read, write a second book, which is gonna be more deeply into the material. This book is quite like a biography about how the hell and how the fuck did I ended up in a hospital, in 2018 after 3 times the inflammation and perforation of my intestines. So what the fuck happened in between? I just a little bit basically about my life. I'm asking a little fee for that. The book is, at this moment, at desorgnasproductions.com.
You can scroll down on the home page. It's in Dutch and in English available. There will be more languages available, when I find the time to translate it. And, I know that you did a part also, but I have to, you know, copy paste some stuff. I have to do that. But why do I ask some fee for it? Because it's not like an information, but it's like a book that I need to, you know, with all the stuff that I bring out right now, which is free, I can't let the lights on, this is not monetized. Podcasting monetizing is very, very hard. When I'm an artist, I bring out a song on Spotify, directly making money.
It's a scam too. It's corrupt. You make like 10¢ each song. So you need a lot of downloads before you make some money as an artist. But with podcasting, it's a pain in the ass. Just a pain in the ass. But,
[02:52:26] Unknown:
this takes hours of work.
[02:52:29] Unknown:
Yeah, only this recording is like 3 and a half hours. So let's say 3 hours. It's going to take between 6 8 hours to get all the stuff going, with the editing and all that stuff, and put it on to get it all together and stuff like that. It's really a lot of work.
[02:52:50] Unknown:
And you all know it for your job besides it. So it's like 2 jobs. And what does it even be? Yeah, yeah. But this
[02:52:59] Unknown:
is the thing I love. I love to interact. I love to give people some information. I love to get into a conversation, and not always to agree with people, but also to listen to, like, oh, in that mindset, okay. Sometimes I'll let myself a little bit go. When it comes to the elite and stuff like that, it's a little bit trauma about author authority, don't like that. Me neither. I got things for, well, basically, I shut down. I have to fight that shit because no one stands above my kingdom, which is my crown, my kingdom. Yeah. I had a great time again. Yeah, let's wrap it up. Yeah, let's wrap it up. Okay.
I need pillachy. Yeah, fuck, that was a good one, again. And, Jianen, thank you very much for, for hopping on Desiredness Productions. And, you want to say something to our listeners?
[02:54:02] Unknown:
Well, the only thing I want to say is when the book is done, you will let them know.
[02:54:09] Unknown:
I will. Yes. I will promote the book for sure. 100%.
[02:54:13] Unknown:
Are we going further on with? Is, they saw the chapters. Yeah. So I want the listeners to think about those chapters even though they aren't written yet. The titles of the chapters, I kind of explained them.
[02:54:28] Unknown:
So I want people the most important thing I want is people to learn to think like I think. Okay. What we're gonna do, I think that's a bad thing to do is when you you brought it out, I try to read in my free time. And then I'm going to bring you on for part 4, which is going to be new chapter, of course, because now we did the trilogy. And then we're going to take a new part, because I probably went, no, I went through the jungle. My chapter is a new one in life. Your chapter will be a new one in life. And we can talk about that. I think that will be a great segue into the 4th
[02:55:09] Unknown:
dimension.
[02:55:11] Unknown:
Yeah, I think so too. Wow. Okay, and for all the listeners, this was a long one. I know, but you know that this is disorder and production, motherfuckers. Come on. So, yeah, fellow human. I wish you a beautiful morning, a beautiful day, or a beautiful evening, no matter where you are on this beautiful plane planet. Namaste, motherfuckers.
[02:55:35] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:55:59] Unknown:
I've been running for all my life with a devil on my heels. He wasn't always kind, and he couldn't fulfill my dreams. He's a pain in the ass. He's black couldn't fulfill my dreams. He's a pain in the ass. Black as a night, god show me light, and he'll be tight.
Introduction to Disorganized Productions
Special Guest: Joost from the Netherlands
Exploring Religion and Spirituality
The Concept of Death and Reincarnation
The Future of AI and Transhumanism
Reincarnation and Energy
The Elite and Transhumanism
Hare Krishna and Spiritual Practices
The Importance of Retreats
Joost's Book: How to Beat the System
Practical Steps to a Better World