Welcome to another episode of the Disorganized Productions Podcast, where we explore the depths of human potential and spirituality. I'm your host, Rob, and today we dive into a fascinating conversation with returning guest, Josh Monday. Josh is a Christian rapper, army veteran, and proud father of three, who shares his journey of faith and personal transformation. A Pagan and a Christian about their belief systems.
In this episode, we discuss the power of belief systems and the role of religion in shaping our lives. Josh shares his experiences with Christianity, his battle with addiction, and how his faith has guided him through life's challenges. We also explore the concept of spiritual warfare and the importance of preparing our children for the world's influences.
Our conversation takes us through various topics, including the significance of the Bible, the nature of God, and the impact of conspiracies on our understanding of spirituality. We delve into the idea of personal responsibility in shaping one's destiny and the role of divine intervention in our lives.
Join us as we navigate these complex themes with open minds and hearts, seeking to understand the diverse perspectives that shape our world. Whether you're a believer, skeptic, or somewhere in between, this episode offers insights and reflections that will inspire and challenge your views on faith and spirituality.
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What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect for the law.
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Well, I'm a walking middle finger with love. Welcome, fellow human, to the disorganized productions podcast. The show that fuels your spirit, ignites your potential, and helps you become the best version of yourself. I'm your host, Rob, and each episode, we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you, tap into your limitless potential, and conquer life's challenges. Hey there, fellow human. Real quick, but a big question from me to you. There's an opportunity that I will fly to Peru in October to, to get into the jungle, with some real indigenous native Indians.
And, there is a group that is going to do Ayahuasca and cambo. Cambo, I already talked about it on the podcast and also on my TikTok channel, but Ayahuasca is something new and I wanna share, with you my insights and my experience about doing these ceremonies in the middle of the jungle. But I got a question for you, a big favor to ask, to be honest with you. To make this trip happened happening, I will need a little bit money. And, this is a little bit begging, I know, but this show isn't sponsored by big sponsor or advertising and stuff like that, and I wanna I don't wanna do that. But, I just wanna ask you a favor and look down on my link tree where there are some, several options to sponsor this show by buying a t shirt or some cool merchandise like mugs and stuff like that, or, well, donate to my PayPal, Patreon, and, well, there were a lot of opportunities to sponsor this show, to make it happen, and to get this awesome content out.
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Here we are, fellow humans. Ladies and gentlemen, today we have a recurring guest. It's gonna be part 2, and it's a little bit later than planned because, we wanted to do a show in August, I think it is. Right? But hey, well, it's September. Come on. It's only 1 month. We met each other in, Los Angeles. We had a great time. He's a proud father of 3 kids. He's a Christian rapper. He's an army veteran. Please welcome Josh Monday.
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What's up, brother? Yeah. Hey. Rob, thank you so much, man. Thank you for having me again. I really appreciate it. Yeah. We got to dude, this is the craziest thing. So, I got invited to go to LA by, Milton and, Alex from Firm Metal Podcast. So I'm I'm like, alright. So I get to meet Milton first. I drive in, get to meet him, give him a hug. And, he's like, alright. Let's go upstairs. He's like, I just wanna let you know that I have a surprise guest coming. And I'm like, wow. So I go upstairs and I get to meet, Joseph.
Joseph Collins. He's the author just so you guys know him. Awesome guy. And then, and then I got to, meet Alex and his family. So we're just sitting there and he's like, yeah. I got a special guest for you guys coming. And I'm just thinking, like, who's he talking about? Right. And Rob shows up from the Netherlands. It was just crazy. I was, like, so surprised, but, had a great time with you guys. Definitely, just what an amazing group of, of fellas. And and, yeah. I just I'm glad that we can get together again, man. It was It was so awesome to meet you in person.
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Oh, yeah. It's a surprise. Absolutely. It's, it's kind of, no, not kind of white. It's the same way for me because I was talking to Milton about it like 2 weeks before. He's like, oh, why don't you come to LA? Like, how do I get to LA? I mean, I just have my passport. That was one of the things that I had to do because otherwise I couldn't fly either. So I got my passport and I told him that, I think we were in the group, like the weirdo group, and we're talking about that. And he said, yeah, why don't you come over with a private message? And I said, well, how should I do that? Well, what's the ticket? I mean, I'm going to pay the ticket and you're going to come over, we're going to provide you everything for the state or something like that. Just like, what?
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Yeah. Shout out to Milton, man. Wow. Just, dude, gave us the the rooms were so amazing. Hopefully, his boss doesn't hear this, but, yeah, he did give us free rooms. Right? What an amazing thing. I was like, wow. He told me before actually, Rob. He was like, hey. But he's like, if you ever come to LA, just just hit me up and you could stay in the, you know, our our my our place. And, you know, I'm just like, he's like, I'm a property manager. So I honestly, I didn't put 2 and 2 together that he's able to do that. You know? I was just like, you know, he's just like, come in, stay, have fun. And he's such a, he has such a beautiful art, man. And, such a such a awesome, person. All you guys did, man. That's what I noticed about all of you guys. You guys just have beautiful souls, man. And, what a great time I had with you guys and not used to meeting, my online friends in person. And it was such a blessing for me. Wow. And
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I have to shout out to you because you were there with 3 little kids. I mean, but the job you did with interacting with everyone, because everyone was excited and stuff like that, But you also took care of 3 little kids that were all over the place. The first night that, I think it was the daughter from Joseph, and the 3 little kids of you, they they I think they, rebuilt the complete rooftop.
[00:07:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah, dude. They were running around everywhere. I was just Oh, god. I was trying to follow them. Yeah. Yeah. It is definitely a task. What I like to do is I always like to, you know, that's why I do my podcast at 5 AM. That's why I'm here right now early, and that's why at 9 o'clock at night I do it. I I like to definitely always make time for them. I think it's vastly important, and, I I don't just go into a guys' night or a guys', you know, guys' time. I just bring my kids, man. So I think it was fun, and I'm happy that Joseph had his daughter there because then, yeah, they had such a good time with her. My father was awesome. Right. So it it was a blessing, man.
[00:07:49] Unknown:
Is this something like, for you that it's your me time? Because I know that you're doing a podcast, but that's the only schedule that you have that you're on your own, where you don't have to worry about the kids, your wife's going to take care of the kids. You don't have to worry about your wife or all situations. Just like, well, I think from my perspective to you, is this the thing like, okay, this is like a normal guy hobby to have my own quality time and to do the stuff that I like to do.
[00:08:21] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. Podcasting is definitely like that. And also, as you know, you just gotta do it, man. When you first start a podcast, you're thinking like, how am I gonna schedule these guests? How am I gonna speak to these people? Because what people don't understand is literally I wake up at 4:35 in the morning, I send a link out, and I'm talking to somebody I don't even know. Not not talking about you. I'm just saying, like, a random person, bro, that you don't even know. And sometimes there are people that are, like people I've I've listened to for years, you know, like Gary Wayne or someone like that. And I'm just like, how how am I gonna handle this? And when I first started the podcast, it was it was just crazy that that you'd send an email or you send a certain email to people. They just respond back and then boom, you got them booked. And it's just an interesting thing, man. I I just love it. It is definitely some me time and it's time to, it gives me time to study, the word of God. I do have me time in the morning when I work out, though, too. Like, 4 days a week, I'm I'm in the gym at, you know, the same time anyways. So I do have that time. And then when I'm at work, obviously, that's my me time. My wife, she don't have her time. She's with the kids all the time. So Right. She's a stay at home mom. So what I would say is shout out to to the moms out there that don't really get their me time unless I unless I'm there and I I can allow it at some point. You know? So Oh, yeah. This is definitely, yeah, this is definitely my me time, and it's such a blessing to, to, if you know, help people through their life. And I get a lot of DMs where people need prayer. I get a lot of DMs where people which is awesome. It's all glory to God. But they'll say that, you know, this this podcast is blessing me in this way or, you know, you're you're bringing the bible to live for me. You're you're you're doing this. And and it's not me. I'm just a vessel being used by God. But it's it's it's something more than just a me time to me. It's it's like it's I'm literally like, I think I'm it's like a church.
It's like church for me. Yeah. Even though I do the conspiracy side as well, but I think that is something that the the the Christians need. When they're sitting in church and they have a pastor that that does not await to conspiracies, they're literally sitting there and they're receiving the bible information, which is which is definitely good. But they gotta understand that we're also in a spiritual battle. So when it when that when the verse says we wrestle not against flesh and blood but principalities of evil, we're literally doing that day to day. That's what I believe. You know? I'm not saying everybody has to believe that. But as you know, you were battling demons too, man. I've been watching you lately on your your Instagram, and I think you were you were saying that you were believe me, I was really bad into all that, dude. Even way deeper into different drugs that are that are way but I think it's good to clear your mind, you know, be sober minded and and and gather your thoughts, get everything together, and it and it really will help you. You know? And I think if you fasted from it, I don't know how if you're still doing that. But you look good right now, bro. You look good. Like, you look solid, dude.
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Dude, the things things are happening. But I want to touch point on a few things that you said, because we were wrapping like, skipping branches like a squirrel. Crazy. Just like when we were in LA. First of all, the, the best HR managers and logistic managers in this world are females. You can ask a dad, when is Jody going to school? When is, Josh going to be picked up and stuff like that? He doesn't know. The winning, they know what to pack. They know how late he have to drive. They know how, what times that he have to be in school, or in practice, or whatever. That's an amazing job, first of all. Yeah. 2nd of all, of course, just like me, you screwed up in life or we thought we screwed up. We didn't like the image we saw in the mirror.
So what you gotta do, you need to change. How you gonna change? Well, you gotta change. It's, it's, I can read thousands of books how to change, but I have to change. You know that for sure, because you were in the rap industry, you could get really, really big. We can dig into that maybe a little bit later in this podcast, but you have to change. And I always say, oh, also in my coaching, business, like change life before it changes you. I saw a Rob in the mirror that was, again, fading away from this real power of what I am, like a powerhouse. I'm the king, I wear my crown.
We can talk about the kingdoms within me and stuff like that. That's my belief system, that's okay. But what I said is what, why do I need a cigarette after I eat? Why do I need a cigarette when I go to toilet? Because it's comfortable. But who is telling me that? I want to control that little voice. I want to kick that little bitch out of my skull because that's not me. So I did cambo, that was a, it's a poisonous, frog, venom that's going to be on your body. They're going to take it in you. So, and this frog is going to scan you. This is a frog that's been, has no natural enemies at all.
It's in, the Amazon, in Peru. They harvest this frog and they milk it. It's a Chipiboe, Indians. And, within 3 weeks, I'm going to get into the jungle 100%. I'm going to do every, I'm going to sell my motorcycle, all my materialistic stuff that I have to get into that jungle, to have a 12 days retreat with the Indians, with Campbell and Ayahuasca. So, but how do you clean yourself by that? So, first of all, the frog took me to, my intensity was like, I don't want to need porn anymore, and I want to quit smoking. And 2 weeks later, I did, Choco Bliss, which is pure chocolate, pure cacao, with Iowascam Psilocybin.
And when I did that, that day, I got still the joint right here. Here it is. I rolled that because normally when I do a trip like LSD or mushrooms or whatever, when they kick, when a trip kicks in, I'm gonna smoke, so it's gonna take me a little bit higher. But there was another voice, it wasn't a voice that told me, like, oh, you need a cigarette because you had a good dinner. No, no, that was another voice. Yeah? Yeah. That was this voice. And that told me, like, dude, it was, the voice told me, like, it doesn't serve you anymore. You're in control. I'm going to help you, whatever you want to take a drag of a cigarette or whatever, take some deep breath, breathing in, some deep breath in. And when you really are struggling, meditate motherfucker.
Okay? Yeah. 5, 6 weeks right now, 6 weeks. No alcohol, no drugs, no fapping. So it's like 5 weeks now that I didn't jerk on. Yeah, yeah. You can see it in my eyes, right? That's good.
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Yeah, your fluids are full, bro. No. I'm just kidding. Hey. Oh, yeah. So so it's, this is a this is, like fasting. You know? It's not always about fasting from food. You know? This is your fasting right now from all this. And I I did the same thing. I I went from what I used to do was slice to smoke cigarettes when I was, in the army especially, man. Deep. Smoked cigarettes and I'd be like, oh, dude. I'm gonna quit cigarettes. I wanna just dip. So that would I'd be dipping tobacco. I'm all spinning. And then I'd be like, alright. I'm gonna quit dipping. I'm just gonna vape. But I'm thinking, like, I'm really literally telling my mind that I'm doing something, like, good as if it's good. Right. But I'm switching from tobacco to tobacco. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna vape anymore. I'm gonna smoke black and mild. Black and mild's already a cigar. I'm still doing tobacco. Not even I'm just fooling myself, bro. Right. Literally chasing the basically chasing the drag end of nicotine. Just chasing it, chasing it, chasing it. This is at the end of me quitting all the other stuff that I was crazy. You know? Right. But God you know, literally God I feel like God, changes changes people. You know? I think God just changed me, man. Like, I was actually at one of my Christian, parties, like, for our church, And I'm the only one outside who was smoking my vape. Just you know? Like Right. Right. Yep. And and my pastor's just like like, he told me he was literally looking at me out the window and and me and him work out together and everything. And he was just like, man, like, I couldn't believe that you were smoking and stuff. And I'm like, thinking, oh, smoking like you don't even know what I used to do. Uh-huh. I used to smoke drugs. You know? So, this is nothing to me. But, yeah, same thing, man. No. I didn't take Ayahuasca and and mushrooms, but, I did just have this experience with God. And and I I used to do that. I used to just do breathing exercises as if I am smoking. What I told myself is this, bro. If I could go to sleep and sleep all night and not need a cigarette, why do I need a cigarette in the morning? Or why do I need to to continue in the morning? I'm fooling myself. Same thing that you were saying.
And, yeah, that that voice is definitely not, it's not me or my or my good conscience telling me to smoke. So same thing, man. I quit it, well, it has been,
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been years now. But Is it because 6 years? Okay. When you're standing there outside with vaping, right? And, and you tell yourself like, what, what, what the hell am I doing? I'm going to quit with that shit. I think, and you know that our perspectives are a little bit different on a, well, I'm not in a religious way you are, and I'm perfectly fine with that. Well, in a relationship way, not in religion either. Yeah, yeah. So, the Holy Spirit, or whatever you're going to call it, right, for me it's like here in the pineal gland. And my temple is left and right from my eyes, right? So, is it called sleeps here also in America?
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What's sleep? Or temples? Yeah, temples. They're called temples.
[00:18:39] Unknown:
Right, wow, there you got it. Temples, not man made, temples and the third eye. So my Holy Ghost is the spirit that told me the Holy Spirit told me quit that shit, Rob. You don't need it anymore. Because everything that you said and what I say is not coming from outside. It's not like there's a bus running. And of course, maybe there are some signs like quit smoking or whatever the, you know, But you have to, well, what is that for your perspective when you say, well, will God help me and stuff like that? Is that you inside you, like the deep desire that you want to quit? Or is it really something that you
[00:19:20] Unknown:
think that's been written in a book? Be honest with me. I think it's x I think it's, when you when I when you pray, it says, knock on the door shall be open. Right? Basically, you're asking God to help you, and the Holy Spirit is is there to guide you. So once you get saved, for me, I believe that the Holy Spirit is is assisting you. Do I and and I'm not saying that the Holy Spirit is not there when you're not saved. It's just like it's it's your consciousness telling you what's good and what's bad. But I believe that God does help you.
It I think it helped me to quit smoking meth, doing drugs, but I had to go what I did is I I went to the altar. I went to I went you know, you don't have to go to a church. You could do this where wherever, but I basically laid everything at the altar, you know, bit the knee at the altar. I was, you know, I was crying. I was feeling it. But I think God helps you, you know, definitely. I think that God helps you, but you have to you have to, humble yourself and you have to ask. And I think I think God was with me the whole way, you know. I think he was. But it was just, when when you're doing, like, hardcore drugs, you're constantly choosing an idol over him, you know? And and at some point, you know, if you wanna keep choosing that idol, then then then go ahead. And then you're not you're you're basically inviting what I believe is demons in your life. You know? If you're smoking meth, if you're doing coke, you're not you're I'm first of all, you're not.
Well, for me. Okay? I wasn't doing coke like where you do one line and then you hang out and and chill all night and talk to somebody. I was doing I was just, like, 0 to 100. I I like I used to do a lot. You know? Right. It's different. I'm not saying that it like, and if you drink a beer and you're hanging out or 2 beers, but, like, I would just be Yeah. Waste 25, you know, waste it as fuck than than take the Coke to get over it. Yeah. I'd be on stage I'd be on stage. Right before I get on stage, I would put a a a, you know, a a $20 bill in a bag and just sniff it up, and then jump on stage, rap. Right. High body contest, drinking. It's just out of control. You know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah. I just, like I said, before I joined the military, I I got saved and I wasn't just saved and then, like, the next day, I'm like, okay. I'm clear of everything.
I'm good. Oh, no. It's like it's still it's still a spiritual battle for the last it's, been about I can't it's been at least 10 or 11 years now, but it's been a spiritual battle the whole time. Me and my wife went just perfect, you know, and my wife goes through spiritual battles too, you know. She's with, you you know what we were talking about. Like, she's so outstanding. Fascinating.
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Josh is so fascinating. Katya Pauls and Alex Pauls, Katya believes in her Bible is, Paolo Cuglio with the Alchemist. Alex's Bible is the Bible, right? Your, religion is the Bible. Your, your wife believes in the spiritual thing, and she makes beautiful spiritual things, like the mushrooms and stuff like that. She's really into that. It's really fascinating because if you want to talk about God, it's very different for every single human to talk about it. And what's really fascinates me is when you're into conspiracies and stuff like that, like we are, we like to dig into that stuff.
What I don't get is that people that are, and I'm not just like bashing you or whatever. I don't want to do that. But what I can grip my head around is when you know about all these conspiracies and you dig into it, why don't you think that a book that's been written could be a psyop to get you off of God? Because when you're worshiping the wrong idols, like you said, cocaine, meth, alcohol, all the stuff. These are idols that you shouldn't worship, but now you're worshiping someone who has been told in the book. I think from my perspective, it's the one of the, one of the books like the religious books that keeps us more awake. And I got a quote for you, and I want you to think about it. I just want you to think about it. I think it, when it came in my system, it just like holy shit, like holy well, not, not, not too much to holy. Okay. Here it comes. Religion doesn't give you every answer.
Religion stops you from making asking questions.
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Okay. Is that it?
[00:23:40] Unknown:
Yeah. But that blew me away. Why? Because every single event that we see right now, we can point it like, oh, wow, it's in the Bible or whatever book. Right? Oh, it's in a Bible or isn't that what if that was the purpose? What if that was the purpose to keep you asleep from the real creator? Because we are searching like a creator that's, maybe on a cloud for some people or maybe some spiritual thing or whatever, but the creator is when you open up your eyes and you see the universe in your kingdom, and you decide what's good and bad. Just like you said, good and bad is our decision.
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Okay, do you believe in flat earth?
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Well, believing is a big thing. Do you know how the earth is flat? I think, no, I don't know. And I believe that the theories that's been putting up are more into that spectrum that I think that the earth is flat and not a globe.
[00:24:49] Unknown:
Okay. So for example, like, I could take that, you know, the earth is flat, and and I can explain it to you biblically. Like, I I think that the the bible the the the cool thing about the bible is that there's manuscripts. So they see that the bible is written that out. You could go back to the, Dead Sea Scrolls. You can go back and it's and it's continued to stay, accurate this whole time. There's 40 different authors, that wrote 66 books. This this is the canon of scripture. Could it be a psyop? Could it be, like, trying to control people? All I know is that every single person that I know that's that's literally walking with God, like like the way that the Bible tells you to, they're not people that are that are, pulling apart speakers and and, big tweeakers or they're not people that are fighting against each other. If you love thy neighbor as you love thyself and you love God with all your heart, it's gonna cover all the commandments.
So you are also not that kind of person either though, even though you're not believing in the Bible. I I I I can meet you and I know that you're a great person. I'm not saying that, you have to be Christian to be a great person, but there's just, it's the Bible is not leading you to nothing but love and compassion for people. It's not leading you into anything that's evil. Even, you know, there's good and there's evil in this world. I do believe there's a devil. I don't know if you believe that. But No. You could see going away from God. I could see how my life is, and I could see how my life is, walking with God. And I could I could speak on a microphone. Right? And and I could and I could I could talk about the Bible. Like, even though I'm not even, like, I'm not an expert on the Bible. I'm not an expert on stuff like that. But when I pray, I'm like, lord, let this let this podcast go good. I'm speaking to people that are on a theological level, and I'm still be able to speak. That's the holy spirit speaking through me. So Mhmm. I just believe there's power in in in God, and it's not about religion. It's not about, like, I need to go to church, and I need to I need to be, like, I need to do this every single day at at 6 o'clock. I need to do this. I need to it's not about legalistic, anymore. It's not like how it was in the old testament, but, it's just that, for me, it works. That's the only thing I know. Oh, but that's It works for me. And I think
[00:27:04] Unknown:
it's great that you pointed out that it's also working for, the people listening to your podcast. And it's not like, oh, you're wrong and I'm right. Or you're right and I'm not trying to do that so you get the wrong point. What I really like about us, Josh, is we can get into a really, like a rumble, but still respect each other because we're humans, right? Yeah, bro, that's it. Because a lot of people are just like, oh, that's stupid and stuff like that. Well, if I'm going to call you stupid about your belief system, I lost anyway. Whatever I'm going to take with me as an argument against you or, to debunk it or whatever, I'm lost. Because when you're not, it's the same thing with globe or flat.
When you're calling a globe, you are, that's retarded. Well, define the way what's the definition of retarded. It's not something like, you know, you really lose some cells in your brain when you are retarded. Right? And I don't think that people are. What people have been putting under a spell by religion and politics. And I think we talked about it, and I think it's still really fascinating. And I hope that somebody is listening to this podcast and, call me up because I got a great idea about making a movie when 5 or 6 people are going to be stuck with a plane crash on an island. There's no religion. There's no nothing, no science or whatever. But these 5 or 6 people have a religion within them, and they have to deal with that religion and their belief system when they have to survive.
And then comes the trick, right? When a pig is walking around in that, on that Island is going to provide you when you're going to kill it, it's going to provide you food. What would the Muslim do? Would he eat that pig to survive or would he skip? So there's a, it would be a great movie because just like I said, I'm, I love what you're doing and keep doing what you do. But I think there's a, a deeper layer on the why we have books to keep us walking in the line and to point out like some events that's been created by someone who knew about the events, who created the book.
[00:29:29] Unknown:
Well, so I would say this, like, Jesus, when he came here, right, the Pharisees had a belief about religion or how this supposed to go and Jesus corrected him constantly. Right? So there you might have a we all might have a bad perception of how we're supposed to be living for God and how it's really supposed to be and how you're really supposed to interpret it. So could you maybe think that you're you're just your interpretation of what the Bible is is being tainted or maybe poisoned by the way you think that it is? And maybe you just don't know because you're not reading it every day and you're not in the word. So it's very hard for me to, since you're not walking in the shoes of me reading and knowing how it's affecting my life, then you might not understand it all the way. You could be, like, standing back from a a a point of view where, like, the Pharisees were even the Pharisees were literally in the temple every day. They're trying to do all that they're doing. But if you see in the book of Ezekiel, god took Ezekiel and showed them, look at what they're really doing in the temple. You know? So it's just you might not be understanding of it fully.
We are conspiracy minded, so I can better understand people's point of view on that. You know? Mhmm. And, I do understand people's point of view on that. You know? So I just it's just something, like I said, that I've studied, and I feel like having the foundation of the bible and which I believe is the is the truth. Having that foundation and then going to dig into conspiracies, I end up knowing that I have God in the end, and we're gonna win in the end. You know? Mhmm. I do see that, I do see stuff like you're saying, Rob, where where the governments and and the elite and the and the the the higher, secret societies, they do know the bible, you know, just like Satan knows the bible better than us, and they are using it as a weapon, like, literally, like, Israel and all this stuff where all the Christians are focused on it. So, yeah, there there are certain ways that the devil is using that. But, and that's happening with end times, with prophecy. They have a certain churches teaching certain things. But I think that maybe you're not understanding it fully like the Pharisees or the Sadducees back in those days. Just like most people on that are Christian don't even understand, you know, how we're really supposed to worship God. But slowly, as you learn, you you know, you read the Bible. All we have is all I have is the word of God, which I believe is the literal word of God. I believe it's all inspired by God. I believe that it builds faith by reading the word. And, dude, it's it's vastly different. When when the spiritual battles happen now, it's vastly different, bro. Reading the word, being in the word, knowing the word of God compared to the spiritual battles I used to have. I mean, it is just incredible. So all I could say is maybe you don't understand it fully. Now do you read your bible every day?
Do you pray No. I don't. I don't. Jesus so you would have no idea what's really happening, but it's okay, though. I don't understand yours either, so I can Right. Act like I do. Yeah. But I understand your your as well. My God,
[00:32:30] Unknown:
I can within an A four paper, I can write down exactly what I feel, what I see, what I smell, what I touch, which is my God. Without reading it down like 2,500 years or whatever, how many authors, how many books, 6, 6 books or whatever. The thing is, I can point out my God, which is the same God, probably, as you do, but I don't hide behind the book. Like, let's say this or let's say that. And I think that's the thing, because when you, I think you're kind of like a priest, right? You know a lot about the Bible. And when somebody comes out with something, you can show some phrases about the Bible, which is good. I love that because you save people.
You give people faith in a very harsh environment that's called the world and society nowadays. Now don't get me wrong. I'm not, I'm not one to, slaughter your belief system. I just want you to know that we've been told about so many things and we're into the conspiracy theories, which means that a lot of shit that we see is not true. So what if the Bible isn't like 2000 years old or whatever, what they made up just to keep you in line and to keep you divided from what's the real God? Because when you point out to a book, I can show you in nature, look at this, look at the Fibonacci rage, the Fibonacci, the gold- Sequencer.
It was frequent. Sequence. It's everywhere. It's what? The Fibonacci sequence, yeah. Why? It's not in the Bible, but I can show you in nature in every fucking cell in this whole world that the God is the frequency, there it is. I can show you the 4, Yeah. You know that Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, and the old stuff like the the the Mozart and Bach, they were making music in 432 hertz, which is godlike. Your system is really adapting to that point. What they made, the Rockfellas in 1900, when they saw that, especially with the belts that they took away because of the healing frequency, they made out, like, it's no possibility to make 432 Hertz again. We're gonna make 440 Hertz, which is off. Like, we don't have 12 months. We have 13 months. So we're off balance all the time.
And when I'm looking at that kind of stuff, and they're going to show me, like, this is the book, for every answer and whatever thing, I'm going to just, oh, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah. When I was like 100 years ago, I probably would say, no, that's not the case because I learned this and this and this. So they put me into jail or into a mental facility, which they did, probably 100, 150 years ago. That when we got orphan trains when he got a new thing coming with a new generation that was brought up with indoctrination system, because the first 5 years of a child is the most impactful about their belief system. So, if I have 5 years of a child, I can tell them whatever I want, and they're going to believe whatever I say.
[00:36:13] Unknown:
Mhmm. And it's and you could still break those chains, you know? Totally did. You could have that. You could have that.
[00:36:19] Unknown:
Right? But they don't like that. That's what how many Robert, I would do you have to your show?
[00:36:25] Unknown:
How many listeners? Probably maybe 3,000. I have full without 45 100 subscribers on YouTube, but obviously, you know, YouTube's not like, let's go ahead and spread this Christianity.
[00:36:35] Unknown:
Let's spread this. Thanks. What are you trying to say here, Josh? I got maybe maybe 1,000, maybe 2,000. I don't care. I know that people with a 16 year old that blow up a fucking iPhone get 670,000 views, and they got 3,200,000 subscribers. And this kid, 16 years old, is making $20,000 a fucking month, or maybe a week strong as I would say, or maybe a day. Why doesn't this kind of, this kind of conversations get out with millions of views because people are looking into Christianity belief systems, about other, well, I'll call myself, I don't call myself a pagan, but Christianity, the Romans told, like, if you don't believe in God, you're a pagan. Okay. Got the title, but it's just a title. It's not me. My name is Rob, but that's not me.
Right? Your name is Josh, but it's not you.
[00:37:33] Unknown:
Yeah. You're not, you're not doing, you're not doing spells. You're not doing witchcraft. You're not doing sorcery. You're not sacrificing animals to to to bail. Right. So I try to not.
[00:37:44] Unknown:
I try to not.
[00:37:46] Unknown:
Oh, yes. Of course. Do you do do you do spells? Do you do witchcraft? Are you into that? Like, do you do you, like, do deals with demons? Like we can't, no, no. There's no way there's going to be an Ouija board.
[00:38:00] Unknown:
Well, that's what I try to say, I do not have a weak, I have strong hands. And still, I'm, I'm falling for that. I was, doing a podcast with Ben from the Unchained Brain. And we were talking just like we're talking right now. And I said weak and he said, well, wait a minute. This spells. We have to be so very carefully about what we say and what's the frequency of it and what's the real meaning out of it. Like daddy, that is not a living thing. Mommy, it's like a wrapped around dad buddy. It's mother, Right? Just these little things like good morning, dad.
Good morning is going to a funeral when you mourn. And you say, dad, if you think about that, if you think about that, dad, you know, in one sentence, I pronounced 2 times dead instead of living, love, light, and whatever the fuck. It's
[00:39:07] Unknown:
So you're strange. Oh, yeah. You feel like it's, you feel like it's, like, spells basically with, like, the well, the English language they said was, is like casting spells. I've heard that before, but It's invented that old. It's not that old. And so so the history that you're you're talking about, you you like, so are do you believe in Tartaria and all that stuff? I heard you say something about the orphan trains. And you feel like there was, like The You feel like the history that we have. I I mean, I I thought I'm not saying you could believe history either, man. Like, when I when I when I see, like, like, when I dig into, like, biblical cosmology and flat earth, I I see all these, figures pop up as far as, like, this person vetted this, this person came up with this theory and blah blah blah, you know, and all this stuff with creation. And and, yeah, I'm not I'm not saying we could believe history a 100% either. Are you into, to Tartaria? Sounded like it when you said that. I think it's very fascinating.
[00:40:01] Unknown:
It is fascinating. I think it's fascinating and it's provable that with frequencies, when you see the rife machine, when you see the bells, when you see nowadays, when you have like spiritual people that are doing with the with the with the shit, with the skill. I don't know what's it called with the
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dong. Oh, yeah.
[00:40:19] Unknown:
Like a bell. Like a bell, like a ball, you know, when you put people in that, like children standing in it, and you stomp it. The gong that was made in China and stuff like that. I think, yes, there will be more truth to it than the shit that they're going to put on. Do I know for sure? No. That's why they, that's what they don't want, because then they can put you on a label like, oh, that's a conspiracy theory. That's the easiest way to say, yeah, you're a mental institution, candidate, right? Because that's the easy way to put me away, and to shut me up from podcasting and telling out the things that I think is my plausible truth or some interesting things about religion, for example, or about tataria or about frequencies or stuff like that. Everything has a frequency.
Everything has a frequency.
[00:41:14] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. I I think that that's just like, like worship music. Right? Like, you worship God, and and I think they've been the stars, like, when they're twinkling. I I believe that that's that those I believe the stars could be could be angels, like, the book of Enoch says, like the Bible says. They're definitely not what we've been told. The bible also speaks about, like, spiritual battles happening between earth and heaven. Like, like, for example, in the book of Daniel, an angel, it took, like, 21 days for him to come because he's fighting against the prince of Persia on his way to answering Daniel's prayer. Right? They're literally fighting in disguise. So there's a lot of stuff I think we haven't been told. And if you if you read the bible and you take it literal, then you're gonna you're gonna find out how this I I believe how this world is. You know? And it could literally be that these angels are in on the end of the sky that which are the which are the stars moving, you know, a certain pattern and and they're twinkling because of, like you said, frequency.
If you look at these, stars from a, you know, on on, like, a p p 1,000 camera Mhmm. You're seeing them do, like, as if they're in water or some kind of superfluid. And I think there's a lot of stuff that would we don't understand. But, bro, I'm telling you, bro, like, the deeper the deeper I get into the bible and the deeper I get into the word and the more I'm taking to get literal. Not not saying when there's a, a prophecy in the book of Daniel and you and you and you read it in the book of revelation that you need to take, like, the dragon is gonna be this or, like, there's there's certain things that are gonna be, you know, allegorical or so they're trying to teach you a parable, but the bible usually explains it to you. It doesn't it doesn't do that the whole entire book. But, like, I just for me, like I said, for me, it works.
I I don't the thing I don't understand see, I could tell you the characteristics of God. I could I could tell you I could explain everything to you by using the Bible to explain God. I could tell you that the Earth was created, that when when the earth was created, how it was created, when it was created, who created it, who was it created through. I could do all that with the bible. So I'm not left trying to figure out everything on my own. You know? I I could do that using the bible. So I think it's a powerful tool. Obviously, it does work for people, but for some people, it doesn't. And you know what? Here's the thing, man. It it just does He loves me.
[00:43:30] Unknown:
Yeah. He loves yeah. God God definitely loves you, bro. I can do whatever the shit I want, but he's too happy. And the funny thing is, because I wanna touch base on that, you said angels. What about Los Angeles? Hollywood. Los Angeles is the lost angels. It's the deceiving shit. The falling, yeah, the falling angels. Please. What happened in Hollywood is, yeah, through the holy, the holy wood, where they make wants of, you know, that, for spells. Yeah. But I listened to a podcast today, and they said, you know what happened when Queen Elizabeth died? Like the old queen from, the old man from England, right?
They snapped a wand. So the spell was broken because more and more people are waking up. I hope, and I like, the podcast you did with Milton, because Milton is also, skeptical about stuff, right? About God and how you're going to get it and stuff like that. I had followed Milton, yeah. Yeah, he's interesting. Well, you've got to cuddle anyways, right? It's not about, oh, because you think different or stuff like that, that I don't like you. No, no, this is more fascinating than it ever gets. What I was trying to say when we were in, Los Angeles is I would like to see, Josh Monday without, and Milton called out like, where you're hiding for. I don't think you're hiding. I think you're right there, but I don't want you to hide behind a book.
What what what would you believe system would be will be if you do not will phrase stuff out of the book? That really, really interest me, Josh.
[00:45:12] Unknown:
Let me give you an example. So let's say that you you you play the guitar like you do, and you love playing the guitar. And I was telling you, dude, stop playing the guitar. You know? Like, don't play the guitar. The thing is, like, I was telling Milton, I love the Bible. I love teaching the Bible. Like, I have a passion for it. Like, I don't I don't mind waking up at 4:45 and wanting to teach the Bible or to teach conspiracies. Like, it's something that I love. So why would somebody wanna take that away from me? You know? Like, I like music. I used to love music and rapping so much. If so much I take that away from me, it's like it it wouldn't I wouldn't be full. I wouldn't be fulfilled. So it's something that I love to do. So so I wouldn't want anybody to try to say, like, I I I want I don't want you to do that or or take that away from me because it's something that I love. I won't. So yeah. Yeah. So that's that's just me. It's it's part of me now. Like Right. Like, I know you guys call it the book, but this is not just the book to me. Like, this is a this How did you For me, it's the absolute absolute truth, man. So but go ahead.
[00:46:08] Unknown:
Sorry to interrupt you. How did you came to the bio? Because you were telling a little bit, you know, tipping off the field, like you were a rapper, doing Coke, crystal meth, drinking, women, all the stuff. I listened to your story about, when you were getting really, into the music industry, but you had to do some stuff that, wasn't lined up with you, right? Yeah. Like some I tried to do stuff, yeah. Right. So Right. Yeah.
[00:46:36] Unknown:
My dad my dad, basically, when I was growing up, he he would he, like, he'd he would teach us the bible. He would teach us a lot about revelation, about prophecy. He felt like the end times are gonna come sooner than they were. But he also taught us about the conspiracy side. So we already knew about the JFK assassination, you know, the bank system. We knew about, the federal reserve, and he would teach us about, you know, like, freemasons or Illuminati. Not, like, really deep, but he would still he would keep us as a weight to that. So my dad kinda planted the seed, growing up, but he he veered away from the bible, and then he got back into it at a later age. But, Mhmm. That's that's what got me into the bible. But, it was just before you know, right right before deployment, I was having, you know, still having issues or not before deployment. I'm sorry. Before I joined the the military, I was still having issues with dabbling with drugs. And then I'll be fighting with my wife, dabbling with drugs, and it was causing a massive problems with me and my wife.
She was my girlfriend at the time. And I just said, you know what? I'm gonna go to basic training and strip all that stuff away from me. And that's what I did. I went to the army and then I started going to church while I was when I was at basic training. It's a way to escape the mayhem that they're putting you through because it's literally mayhem all day, every day there. And, you I escaped, and then and it was helping me. And then and then I when I came back, me and my wife started, you know, attending Calvary Chapel in in, Diamond Bar, California. Mhmm. And I literally I got saved. I, like, basically he says, you know, you could come up if you want to. And and, you know, at first, you're just like, I don't wanna come up because you're embarrassed.
You know, you need to come up though. And it it's not something that you have to do. It's just something that helped me. You know? I went up there and it's called, like, being baptized by the holy spirit. And what you're doing is you're base basically just telling you just telling god, like, hey. I'm done with this life. Mhmm. And I want you to help me. And like I said, I took a knee. I was crying. It was definitely an emotional, part for me. And it's just all I was doing is just laying everything that I've been doing on the altar, asking for forgiveness, and repenting for my sins. Repenting means doing, like, a 180.
It's like you're going one way. And and in in the army, it's like what you do to an about face and you and you just go the other way. And you just you know, I just repented, and it just, I just started, you know, from there. You know? And as far as getting deep into the bible though, I didn't really start getting really deep into the bible until until I started honestly, I would say till I started the podcast. Because I would I would read the bible or I would pray, but and I would go to church and I would have a pastor teach me the bible. But once I grabbed the bible and said, I wanna start learning it for myself Mhmm. And and and then you you have all these shows where you're just like, wow. There's this there's this vision of the Bible and there's this vision I didn't even know. I only knew what my my my church was teaching me. So what I what I think, is is very vastly important for someone that wants to dig into the word of God is to is to not have somebody teach you the word of God the whole time. You need to learn yourself, and you need to have a relationship with God yourself, have the Holy Spirit guide you. So it is good to go to church for the fellowship, and it's good for the pastor to teach you. But it's good to go home and take that information that he taught you and read those same verses and see what God is trying to explain to you through those verses too, because there is certain agendas in everything.
And I do believe, even in church, they're they have a certain way that they need to teach you because they have a board of directors that'll be like, hey. This is the prophecy we believe, so you need to teach this. So I think it's it's it's good going in knowing that there's different, there's different, interpretations of of verses and different interpretations of end times. And it's good, when I started my podcast, I got to learn all those interpretations of the end times. And now I'm you know, I just, it just helps, man. But I got really deep into the bible probably 4 years ago. And, that's that's when I started, really reading it for myself, dissecting it, going back to the Greek, going back to the Hebrew, not not even knowing that before as as a as a as a Christian that there's you need to it it's it's like there's different definitions that maybe some people would go with and some people wouldn't. So I just got deeper and deeper into the word and it's just been, like I said, it's fascinating to me. Mhmm. Especially when I got into biblical cosmology that that that's something that really, lit a fire up under me because then I know the deception is way bigger than I thought before.
Exactly. It's way deeper.
[00:50:59] Unknown:
Exactly, Josh. What about giving out a book and they believe it, and they will defend it for their lives, and they will live their lives as we say in the book, so we can slow them down and make them be aware of that God and the real God is within you. And we say it in the Bible. We say the kingdom of God is within you.
[00:51:24] Unknown:
So what I would say to that is if if the bible was was was having people, like, read it and then they're and then they're basically committing evil from it or doing something that that is against what we what what we should be doing as humans. Like, everything in the bible that that is is taught is something that you kinda already know already, then you know is good. Everything that's being taught for you to do. Everything that's about that. Yeah. And every every single I'll say this. Okay? So I I know that you are into conspiracies, and and I would hope that you are here to expose evil. Right? And and and help people to not get into evil, maybe stop people from getting into secret societies, I would hope, to get into freemasonry. Right? You don't wanna be like be like, hey, guys. I wanna promote freemasonry. I wanna make you a 33 degree mason. Hopefully, you're not like that. Mhmm. But what I what I as you do your studies in all these secret societies, the black nobility committee of 300, you start digging deep into, like, freemasons, 33 degrees.
These people are their their light bearer. Right? Their their, grand architect is not the god of the bible. It's not Yahweh. Their grand architect is Lucifer. If you read Albert Pike, Albert Mackey, or, I'm sorry. I can't remember his name. But, anyway, so Yeah. Probably.
[00:52:44] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, yeah, even Crowley. Yeah. I mean, do you see that? So, podcast about that black stuff. Just sorry to interrupt you. We're Joost. It's Dutch guy, but it's an English podcast. We did it on the dark side of Deville and about the bright side. And we're going to do another podcast on the 1st October, more about the The dark side of what? I'm sorry, the dark side of what? Dark side of what? Well, cults and stuff like that, how it's Of, well, magic. Vampires and stuff like that, black magic and stuff like that. He knows a lot about that. He was in some cults, but he was also in a lot of light cults. So like Buddhism, Hara Krishna, all that stuff. So we did 2 podcasts.
And what I'm trying to say, and I know what I know what you're trying to to to see here. The thing is I was listening to one of the last episodes of Sam Tripoli's, podcast with, Todd Cave. I'm gonna have him on 30 of September on. This guy has a very, very interesting point of view when it comes to religious religion. It's not only about the Bible, whether, and that's what I'm trying to say here. I love you from the bottom of my heart and and and you know that. And just like I said, I I really think it's very fascinating when I see peep 2 people like Alex, Paul, Zincati, which are 2 different religious within one, system like the family, and you too.
What does that bring, in a normal life when your wife thinks like, okay, let him read the Bible and let he
[00:54:43] Unknown:
she, the only thing is I think she's a little confused on, certain things because she doesn't believe in in flat earth. She doesn't believe in biblical cosmology. She believes, like, in a universe, like like, expanding, you know, all that stuff. So she's stuff like universe? Oh, yeah. She believes in all that, bro. Yeah. She's she's not there. She's not know. So we're we're vastly different in that way. And what I do is I say, you know, you could teach the kids that if you'd like. No problem. But I'm gonna teach them the alternative of of of flat earth biblical cosmology. And you could teach them that. No problem. You know, if they do you wanna teach them that? That's cool. But I'm gonna show them the Bible. I'm gonna show them exactly what I teach on a day to day basis.
And she's cool with it. And she is Christian. She she disbelieves. The only thing that I think she's a little confused about, which, I didn't even know till recently, is that she told me that she prays to the to, you know, she thinks God is the universe. And I'm like, well, show me the chapter and verse for that. And she can't show me that. So, it's really she's Christian, though. Like, she's she's saved. You know? She believes that Jesus Christ, our lord and savior. She she at one time, she was really deep into the bible together, but, you know, it's just, we're on our we're on our own spiritual path. You know? And I'm just you know, I do my best. I I teach it's easy for me to teach to everybody that's listened to the podcast. What I'm trying to do is is to bring it to the to home. The kids, easy. But my wife, it's a little harder because, I think what happened the the division that happened at first was, she she was like, oh, well, why why are you teaching the flat earth? You know? So it's something that kinda divided us for a little bit, but now she understands it. She she told me that you have your own little, she said, you have your own little cult out there, your little flat earth cult. I started laughing. I'm like, that's not even what it's about because she's not understanding that, the podcast that I'm doing when I when I talk about, flat earth is not like, well, this is this is the curvature calculation. This is this. What I'm teaching is straight from the bible, verse by verse. But she just she told me that if I this is what she told me, Rob, which is is hilarious.
She's like, well, I'll listen to your Flat Earth podcast about biblical cosmology. If you take, mushrooms sometime or you do, you know, Ayahuasca or something, I started laughing.
[00:57:05] Unknown:
Why? Why did you start laughing? She has a great voice. I so much. She's so From now on, I'm going to, I want to have her on my podcast too. I told her that when you let, we're leaving LA. Because why would you, and that's something I really want to know from you. Why would you want to, okay, when you say listen to my podcast, she should be seriously
[00:57:31] Unknown:
thinking about doing that or listening to it seriously. But when she said, let me show you my point of view, you're gonna laugh at her. That's not No. I'm not laughing at her. No. No. No. It's just funny that she that she connects those together like Yeah. Yep. Thing. Like, so that's that's good. Because it's an extreme for her. That's how extreme it is for her as an extreme it is for me to do that. Right. What For me Did you ever did mushrooms?
[00:57:56] Unknown:
Did have I? Yeah.
[00:57:58] Unknown:
Yeah. I've done mushrooms. I've done every single drug you can name besides the newer ones that came out, like c whatever the Yeah. Yeah. C 12. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've done cheese, baby, arrow. I did yeah. But I didn't shoot it. I didn't not not in the vein. Just what what happened was I I ordered a batch of meth. Right? And then this guy dropped me off the he like, dude, this is how bad it is, bro. She he's got, like he's he's rides a motorcycle. He's got one cheek. He's got the bath. One cheek. He's got the heroin. He's just riding me. And then he's like, oh, here he goes. He's dropping off these desacs to everybody. Right. And he gave me the wrong one. So I I hit it, and it didn't it didn't, like, make me addicted. I just I hit it, and I was all black. I was like, oh, I called them and told them, hey. This is the wrong thing. I gave it back to me. Gave me whatever I was trying to do. But, yeah, so I did do that, but, bro, I've done it every single day. Like, I've already I've already done all that, bro. Mushrooms, acid, ever a long ago?
This is a long time ago. This is when I was 16, 18, and around that range. I was young because my dad what happened was my parents got a divorce, and my dad said, hey. This is a bachelor pad now. You guys could do whatever you want. So there was there was whatever. There was a lot of drugs around. My dad was selling weed to, my friends and, you know, older people. And what happened was he was like, hey. We'll make this a bachelor pad now that I got a divorce. So we I was able to do acid. Do but he said, hey. As long as you're doing it in my household, then you're not going out of doing it. I'd rather you do it here. And that's what I was doing. You know? So I got to
[00:59:27] Unknown:
I got to do that. I I would you know, I I would love to to to see something happening right here. I would love to give you, like a Saturday and a Sunday off together with your wife. Your kids will be at, you know, they were taken care of. And there's gonna be 2 weak ends, strong ends. Here we are, that's the indoctrination already. 2 strong ends. 1, you and your wife will do mushrooms together and talk about the insights that you're gonna get. And one strong end where you, a wife, you telling your perspective, how did you came by? You know, all the phrases on the Bible and why you think that this, this book is so fascinating. And it is a fascinating book and why your belief system is, is so based on that book. I would, I think if, if you're gonna record that stuff, Josh, that's gonna be a, one hitter just like, because it's fascinating that that although you have 2 completely separate ways of thinking about belief system, religion, universe, whatever, that you're, that you're still coping together with the 3 beautiful, children and stuff like that.
I want to know your point of view about that. And I want to know your point of view that just got to download. What about that children are only allowed at the age of 12 to listen and to learn about religion?
[01:01:06] Unknown:
Oh, they can't listen until the age of 12? Yeah.
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So there's no indoctrination, so the indoctrination is can't, are there already in the book. So their minds are already developed or something? Until their minds are developed so they can think for themselves and then they can dig into some religious stuff. And it's not like, okay, we're going to teach you, Christianity. No, no, no, no, no. It's going to be Buddhism. Well, Hinduism isn't a religious, it's a way of life, but you know, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, whatever.
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What? Do I think that that's a smart idea? Yeah. Is that what you're asking? Well, I would say, just just for what? So that so that they can learn all the religions so they could choose for themselves. Is that what it is? Well, that's basically the the the yeah. So they can choose for themselves what fits in their
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way of life and belief system without any indoctrination from above or below.
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Oh, that's interesting thoughts. I don't know. Do I agree with that? I don't know. I think that, I think that God gives I believe that God of the Bible, Yahweh, gives you your children as a blessing and he wants you to raise them and and and teach them so that by the time that they they do, you know, mature even even at at the youngest of age, I think it's smart to start teaching them about God because they could die at 11, and they could die at 10. And you never got them saved or never told them about God or about Jesus. They have no relationship at all. So, well, why would I wanna take that away from them? They could end up going to hell. Does that make sense? No. No. Doesn't.
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For me, it doesn't at all because when you're not aware of a belief system that could guide you through life or save you, whatever, I mean, if you take every continent in this world, there are different belief systems that are preaching something completely different, but that, the goal is to preach the same. Okay? Let's say that. But if you are 10 years old, why should you be saved if you have 2 loving parents that are wanna give you all the love in the world and give you all the knowledge in the world to be a good human?
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I think that we could be all, give them all the love in the world, but there's the world out there as well. Right? So, Right. There's other stuff that they're gonna be going against where they need to know, like, what's right and what's wrong. And I think that we Do you know that without that?
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Don't you know that without,
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biblical or or religious? Not biblical, religious. I don't know. There's they started doxinating you at 5 years old here in America with stuff that is way like, totally against the bible. So, here, you need to, like, be you need to have your spiritual, you need to have your spiritual battles ready because it's gonna start even if you go to public schooling system, it's gonna start at 5. So I'm gonna be way behind the curve, bro, because by the time they're 12, they've been indoctrinated with, NASA. This has been indoctrinated with, you know, the globe. They're gonna be indoctrinated with, heliocentricity, evolution, big bang. I'm gonna be way behind the curve.
Yeah. Unintended. And I'm gonna be, like, way behind. So by the now now now I gotta try to, like, you know, catch up by teaching them the bible and everything, and they're already like, that's it has to be allegory or or poetry because that goes against everything I've been taught. So if you if if they are 5678, and I could just plant these seeds, God gives me this gift. Like, these these children are like, it says in the bible that God forms them in the womb in Jeremiah. Like, God is literally giving you these gifts, and I'm gonna I'm gonna take these gifts that God gave me and be like, hey. I'm gonna set my own limit at 12 and not teach you when I don't see that biblically at all, dude. Like, biblically, you have these children God gives you. Be fruitful and multiply because he wants to have you know, he wants you to raise them in, you know, with the relationship with god, show him who created you. Like, God literally formed them in the womb. Like, I think you should teach them as early as possible because when they go into the world, which which it says in the bible that Satan is the god of this world, dude, you have to prepare them, bro. Be ready for spiritual battles or else you are gonna be you're you're not gonna they're not gonna be ready for life. You know? It's gonna hit them like a like a train.
You know? So I believe that you should train them young as possible because Satan is not gonna wait until they're 12. Satan's not gonna wait until they're easy to start when they're 3 looking at a iPad. Satan's gonna be there ready to go, teaching them everything that that is, mostly against the bible. I mean, if you look at everything you're taught in school, literally, it's 13,600,000,000 years that that it's it's like everything is inverted, bro. And I know that, I know that the bible is a book to you, but I I see everything in the world, which is the Bible says be not of this world, that's what Jesus says, is inverted compared to what the Bible says. And it's you see it everywhere, dude. Like music videos. You see it in TV. You see it in social media. You see it how everybody's taking selfies.
Everything is teaching you to be, like, against the Bible. You know? So I think that it's vastly important to yeah. It's like a battle. Right? It's a battle for your soul. And you need to be understand that this is a battlefield, and God is blessing you with children, and you need to teach them early because the devil's not gonna wait. He's not lazy. The demons are not gonna wait to start attacking your children.
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So, I think that- I think pointed out just like one second ago, wow, it's a battlefield of your soul. So, what comes, you know, you walk a dog. In America, you have a pet, it's called a dog, you walk it outside. Do that in China, they eat it. You like ground beef. You like ground beef, which is very nice. I think it's Korea. I think it's Korea that eats the dog, but I don't think it's China. Korea. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they don't do it at all. Bash down here. So I don't wanna bash Korean either. I don't even know if it's Korea. Right. But I don't think it's true. So so I'm not even getting to say that. Sorry. So all these beliefs is like, okay, we eat cows, do them in India, they're going to slaughter you. So, the thing is, and Todd Cave is talking about this because he was getting into the section of the clay tablets and stuff like that. And he figured out a lot of things about what the meaning of some words are and stuff like that.
I can't pronounce them all, but he made a really, really good point. How many people did, well, how many times has Satan been called in the Bible? The name Satan. How many names, how many times is it called? Yeah. How many times in the Bible not there. You don't know?
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No, I don't know the exact number. You're asking me the exact number of times that Satan's been mentioned.
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Right. Now Satan is the adversary. That's what it means. That's what that word is. Well, so it's a made up word, which is not in the Bible as, okay, we got God and we got Satan. It's against God, we call it Satan, right?
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That's a word. It's called adversary. That's what we say in English. So it's not like, yeah.
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So,
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it's like, you did all that. It's like, I'm writing a book about light, but there should be a You asked me a I'm writing a book about light. You asked me a question though, like, and you didn't respond to it. So you asked me a question on whether I should teach if you should teach children at the age of 12 so they're not indoctrinated. So did you understand why I would say it's very important to to prepare your children for what they're gonna be taught because like I said, the devil is not waiting. You know? He's not he's not like just like, oh, sitting back and just, allowing, you know, your children to mature first before he starts attacking them. Right? You know? I I would Wouldn't you agree with that?
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Well, I will take it on a little bit, not a other level. Woah, I'm struggling about here. First of all, I don't think you need religion to point out that there's good and evil in this world. So if I'm going to raise my kids and I'm going to give them the value of life and what is normal and which is isn't, or my culture and my belief system, which shouldn't be religious, but belief system that's good and bad. Right? And that's why I want to point out like, okay, in, in India that ate, they don't eat cows, but we do. So what's my belief system against the other one? But if you truly a normal human being with respect for the other and don't kill and don't steal, I think that's 3 of the things that make a human a very nice human being with this respect for others. So if I'm gonna point that out, and we're gonna point out that a lot of history, what they're gonna teach you isn't science, but science fiction, I think I cover, like, the first 10 years of a child's brain.
Like everything they say could be a lie because we want you to, to start walking before you crawl. We wanna start you walk and then you have to sit still. We wanna learn you to talk and then you have to shut up. We, we, we tell you the 1st 5 years that you shouldn't lie, or we tell you about Santa Claus and about Easter eggs and all that stuff. Right? So what about the other things? I think it's our duty as a society to call out what's good and evil. And I think we do not need politics or religion to do that. But that's my point of view.
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So I wanna I wanna answer something real quick. So Satan is mentioned 36 times in the new testament and 17 times in the it's hasatan, which is the adversary in Mhmm. In the old testament. So even in the new testament, it it talks about Satan bringing Jesus up to the highest mountain. It does say Satan in there. So what is he talking about? Okay. So how come why does he why does he say that he's not mentioned? Because
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he's been mentioned in the book. How many people did Satan killed?
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Oh, this is gonna be the, how many how many people did Satan kill? How many people did God kill? Is that gonna be the question? I've already been asked this question before. So Yeah. You did? Yeah. I've been asked this question before. Yeah. Actually, on another podcast that Okay. Same exact way too. It's very interesting. So what my response to that person was, like, do do they understand the context of the flood, first of all? Like, have they read the the story of the flood? Do they know what was was why the flood was even brought upon? No. Like like, these questions are being formed formulated without even knowing the context of what's going on during that time or why the flood happened. Like, I could ask them questions about Genesis 6, the fallen angels. They're like, yeah. I know there was giants. I believe there was giants. Like, I believe that part of the Bible, but everything else, I don't believe. Okay. What so what happens is they don't even understand the concept. So when when Genesis 6 4 happened, fallen angels came down. It's the the sons of God came into to women, human women. They they had sex. Right? The the the angels, what they did, it's talks about in the book of Jude. They shed their which is their heavenly bodies.
That's what we're trying to get as humans. We're trying to go to heaven and get our heavenly bodies. They shed their They came down. They and they actually shed their heavenly bodies to come and have sex with these beautiful human women. And they had children, which are called the Nephilim, right, or the fallen ones or earth born. So now they started multiplying, having sex with women and everything, and and now the DNA is corrupted. Right? So this is what's happening in the Bible. It's like a seed war. Genesis 315, it talks about thy seed, and it talks about Satan's seed. So Satan is able to have, children. He has a seed. A seed is talking about being able to procreate.
So Satan has a seed, and then it talks about, so as that what's happening is that's what happened during the flood is the seed, Satan's seed, I would say, because it's fallen angels, went into women. And these these fallen angels are now locked in the abyss. This is something that God was very angry about. So, if you go to, the flood story, this is one of the things where you would say that God murdered all these men, women, and children. I think that people would try to use that. The wickedness and judgment of man, you start reading. It says the lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was evil continually.
And the Lord was sorry that he had made man on the earth. He was grieved in his heart. So the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face to the earth, both man, beast, creepy thing, birds of the air. I am sorry that I made them, for but Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. When you read this, it says this is the genealogy of Noah. He was a just man, perfect in his generations. So what does that mean? Perfect in his generations. Does that mean that he's perfect? He walked with God. He doesn't sin like Jesus. No. It says perfect in his generations. When you look at that word generations, it's talking about his DNA. Right? So his DNA was perfect.
It wasn't infected by what what happened. So there was an encouragement that happened. So the reason why the flood had to occur was because of what happened in Genesis 6. As you read, you'll find out. So what people are what people don't understand is if if the DNA was messed up, and also when you see, god say go to that tribe and murder all men, women, children, and animals. What's why is that happening in the book of numbers? Those people are are they're they're Nephilim. They're giants. Right? That's why when they send out the spies Hold on. Why would you kill them?
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If you are God, then you make them. So when God is the creator of everything, he created the man, the beast, the flora, the fauna, the Bethlehem, whatever, the giants.
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So if you are He didn't create the giants. They're called they're earth born. Right? They're not born God didn't make the giants. What happened is the angels Who made them? The angels came down, had sex with women, and they bore children called the Nephilim or the mighty angels. Right. But who made the angels then?
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Who god created the angels.
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So he fucked up. They weren't meant to he didn't mess up. They weren't meant to come down and have sex with women, obviously, as the Bible would say. But if you're an angel, you got wings, you can go to several realms or several dimensions. Why shouldn't you? The Bible doesn't say that angels like, they're not they're not like, the the Hollywood version of, of, what do you mean? I agree with that. But I think if if you look at it in in a you know? Before, I'll just say this. I really like the Before the veil, the veil was not torn. The veil was not torn before. So as of now, in the Bible no. No. No. No. I'm talking about, like, angels were were there was there was more like, like, right now, obviously, we're not speaking to angels anymore because that that got taken away from us. But in some the Bible, if as you see, like, for example, Abraham, he had he had 2 angels visit him, and I believe that it was Jesus as well. And what happened is they're able to to sit, eat, drink, talk to each other, and then the 2 angels got sent to Sodom and Gomorrah to save Lot and his wife. They were able to eat, drink, speak. So angels, when they come down to Earth, they're they're in human form. Okay? Even in Hebrews 13:2, it says you never know when you're entertaining an angel. So they're able to come down and and be in human form, you know, when they're here on Earth. So I believe that did happen, but God God messed up by creating angels now because angels are messengers, and and they they they come they help us. They they I think they take some our prayers to God. There's certain things that angels do. They're called messengers. That's what they are. But and there's obviously different divisions of angels. But how how did God mess up by creating angels? Because they had free will just like we do, and those angels ended up sinning and having sex with women. And, I believe that's Satan at at work again. You know? The adversary, causing these angels to do that. But what what you said that God messed up by by creating the angels? What? Why? Well, no. What I'm trying to say is when when
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when God's divine being that creates everything, he creates everything. So you should know when you do that, you know. I'm not saying that he's evil or he's bad, but I think, okay, let's keep another branch. We think that the Bible is about 2000 years old. Before that, there were a lot of very interesting books. I learned a lot about from that, from Jost, the Baghdad Veda, the clay tablets, as you mentioned before. And, you know, there's so many things in history that we can't pitch point what they did with it, who translated? Who's King James anyway? You know, he translated.
Why should a king translate something from a book when the book has already been there? What makes the point of saying that?
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Translate okay. So the king James, it was, 16/11. What he did is he took, he had Hebrew scholars translate the translate the the king James. So what was the point of translating it? They translated it to English. They had the Geneva Bible before that. Well, Geneva is is is not English. It's not a It's a little different. Yeah. It's Italian. Right? Geneva, I think, is Of course.
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I think, what what is, Dutch? German? German,
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Italian. To answer your question, though, you were you said, like, the oldest biblical text was 27 years old that was found, but I believe that the book of Genesis takes you back to the beginning of time. Right. I think that the book of Genesis does that. Like, God is giving you a firsthand account to Moses. He spoke to him on Mount Sinai. It says in numbers 4, 12 verses 4 through 8, he speaks to him face to face, mouth to mouth. He has him write down everything that he says. So God takes Moses back to the very beginning of time. I gotta come with that too. God created the heavens and the earth. Right? I know. I understand. But he does take it back to the beginning of time and explains everything that happened up to the point till Moses is alive.
So the flood's account, he's Moses is not alive during that. The beginning of time, obviously, Moses is not alive during that. Joseph, you know, speaking of, Abraham, all that stuff. Moses is not alive during that time, so there has to be a firsthand account from God, I believe. But, what did you have a problem with? Sorry. You said you had a problem with that too.
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Well, I got a I got a problem, but okay. I'm heading, hiking to the mountains, and I come back, and I say, I had just divine download. God was talking with me. So, first of all, nobody knows who God is when I came from the down, from the mountain, right? So, I have to tell them, the people in the village or whatever, what God is. Someone talked to me on the mountain. So, in this realm, we could say he's completely bonanza, let's get him to the mental institution. But somehow, he had the drive to write down some stuff that he heard from God. So, first of all, you weren't there. So, whatever story it's been told or been written down, and I pointed out in one of my TikToks, what's the purpose of writing a book when nobody could read?
Think about that. When you're writing a book? Yeah, yeah. Why would you write a book when nobody can read what you're writing? I said, I wrote a book. I wrote a book. Years ago, people couldn't read.
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Why write a book? Why write a book? It doesn't matter if it's a Bible or a Roman or or a thread or whatever. You gotta write it, bro, because, can you imagine just just trying to pass it down from, like, verbally? Like like, if you play a game of, They did. The fuck that we did. Phone. Yeah. Like, if you play a game of phone tag, like, in the beginning, it's good to get that the perception of the person from the beginning. Like, if I'm at a accident scene and I was like, hey, Rob, like, you're a firsthand account. You see what's happening. And I'd rather ask you than ask somebody from, you know, like, you know, 15 years later, like, what happened at that accident? And then you try to explain it to me. Like, it's good to get a firsthand account. So the reason why it was written was so that we would be able to, you know, have their account. You know? Like like like Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, these are firsthand accounts.
And then, like, Luke wrote different books of the bible like Acts, and then Paul wrote, you know, books of the bible like these are these are the firsthand accounts. So I think it's good that it was written. Now the old testament, Moses, he received it verbally from God and then wrote it down. And I think it's good that it was written down because when like, that's why it's good. We we found, like, later on in life, we found, like, Dead Sea Scrolls that are from further back, way way further back. I don't know the exact date, and they matched up to the book we have today. Like, isn't that crazy? I mean So so Okay. It's good to have it written down because bloody dust is passed down from generation to generation. Like like, it it's gonna get a little skewed. So having it written down and then us getting to the Bible, like, let's say now, you get the the King James version or you get any any of the bibles and then and you see that. And then then you find the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were written way back then, and they match up, like, you know, almost perfectly, then then it's it's a good thing. You know? It's a good thing because it's more proof. But Todd k has to me, it's it's not well well, good thing is that they they didn't screwed up the real story, Probably. It's like making a movie and a movie and a movie within 50 or 60 years, and they didn't screw up the script, but it's still a different movie, but the same movie. You know what I'm trying to say? Did they have the same the same book, but they,
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refilmed it in a different way? So one of really thing is fascinating is when you been pointing out like they did, they wrote the Bible 66 books, I think it's 66 books, 1500 years, several authors. Okay. How on earth did it get that I'm writing a book right now? I did wrote a book. You can download all my, all my disorganized productions. It's it's in English, about my life. Okay. Then all of a sudden in 20 or 30 years, somebody picks up my book and think, oh, wait, I got some downloads too. I've got to write this down. And that happens all the time. They call it Paul, Luke, whatever. I think it's a very fascinating story because it's a it's a hold on for a lot of people to to when they're going through harsh times or when they're going through some times that they have a, you know, they, they can have something to believe in.
But I think also it's very fascinating that exactly the things that point out right now, which, which have been written for 2 and a half 1000 years ago, 2000 years ago, It's been written in the Bible. Well, how much coincidence that if you didn't knew the fucking script? How, how, I mean, isn't that like a serious, really big plan? Just like, okay, we're gonna give them some fruit. What they wrote, they have been written down that in a book, people are reading it, we made it a religion, and now we're gonna put these things on a script, and people will recognize it. It's like, oh, shit.
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So that's part of, like, prophecy, like, when it's come when it comes true. You know? Like, even God says, he says that, if somebody prophesizes something and it doesn't come true, they're a false prophet. So the Bible, the reason why things are coming true is because it's prophesized and it is, you know, all scriptures inspired by God. So I do believe and also what God says about his prophets as he comes to them in visions and in dreams, Ezekiel, Elijah, Jeremiah, Daniel, all these people that, that and even John in Revelation. You know? So he comes to them in visions and dreams, so they're coming from God. So the reason why they're coming true, I would say, in a defense of the Bible is because, it's prophecy from God. Timothy says that all scripture or I'm sorry. Paul says that in Timothy that all scriptures are inspired by God. It's God breathed, and God even says, test the spirits. Right? Test Mhmm. What I'm saying. If it doesn't happen, then it's a false prophecy. And it is all happening and it and it the prophecies have been fulfilled. So that is another way to build, confidence in the bible. But what I tell people is there's there's different teachers that you're gonna find that that are like like for you, like when you hear Todd Kenny, that's like that's like itching your ears. It's like honey to your ears because you have this thought about the Bible and this guy is feeding that to you. And you're like, oh my god. This guy is so intelligent, so smart. And it happens with Jordan Maxwell. It happens with Santos Bonacci. It happens with Todd Cave. It happens with these gentlemen. They use the conspiracy as bait, and then they lead you to this this spirituality that you think that you have. So not only are they teaching the conspiracy, but they're also sucking you with teaching the Bible's fake. That's a that's conspiracy too. So let me teach you the real spirituality. So I see it happening. And if if you are down with that, it's okay, man. I I No. It's It's alright. But I I get your point. I I'm And I think it's really good that you pointed out. We have to be very careful what people say if that's the truth. And when you hear something I wouldn't put my salvation in the God's hand. In your ear. Right? It's like you're feeding your own porn, right? You're just like, oh, I love that shit.
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Oh, wow. Oh, this against that, so I love that. But the thing is, it's religious.
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I wouldn't Yeah, that's still religious too. I would, 100%,
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I would really love more to talk about spirituality than about religion. Because religion, it could be. They were singing in Sanskrit, because when you sing, you resonate. It's the and look it down. It's Indian. It's really old Sanskrit. And it's the words of the Lord. In a little bit different way, but you got the creator, you got the one that wants to keep that intact,
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and you got the destroyer. So, So you got your 3 This is the Burnet T2? Sheba the destroyer. Is this, this is, yeah. Bhagavad Gita. Yeah. Do do you know do you know about CERN?
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Yes.
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You do. But well, so Know about CERN? Well Obviously, you do. I know. I know. Yeah. I'll be let me just put it this way. You've studied CERN obviously already. So why do you think sheba destroyers that that that is right in front of CERN? Why why do you think that would be there? To destroy our world. Sheba, the the destroyer guys there. Yeah. Like, basically they have a, you know, idol like that. So why would I was just wondering why you do think they would have that there? Do you do you realize that everybody that we go against conspiratorily, like, every single, like, secret society, elite, masons, everybody we we expose, do you see any of those people telling you to go read your bible and and and you need a relationship with God and you need to get saved through Jesus Christ. Do you ever see those people telling you that? No.
But So those are my those I believe are our enemies, especially especially conspiratorial because we see the evil that they're they're placing on this world. They're they're pulling strings from behind the scenes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You never see those people, like you ever like, Bill Gates is someone, like, in the conspiracy, like, that he just came out on the scene where he just, like, dead. This guy is just straight evil. Do you ever see him coming on, TV saying, you know what? Like, you know, telling you to get saved and and help you. Like, I I believe that we see that the enemies of us are not telling us to to read the Bible and to get into God and to get saved and that Jesus is the way, the truth, the life, the only way to True. Fathers through him. No. They're telling you the opposite of that. And Well well, did did he did he tell you, like, you gotta read the the the occult books like Crowley,
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mentioned or or the satanic bible? None of them. Well,
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in the Bible it says you can only worship 1 master. Right? You either worship God, right, the one true God, or you're worshiping the god of manna, which is the god of money or Satan. Right? So you can only worship 1 master. So as long as you're not worshiping, which I believe is the true master, and you're not, you're not using the mediator Jesus to get to God, which is the only way to the father is through him, then the devil is completely happy with that. You know what I mean? Like, you gotta think about it. As long as you're not, as long as you're not saved and and if you're he doesn't need you to be in a temple with the with the bread thing on, sacrificing animals because you're you're not saved. So you're just as bad as a child molester. You're just as bad as a murderer. You're just as bad as a dollar juror. You're just as bad as all those things that we hate because you're not you're not saved. You're not believing in god anyways. So he's happy with that. I'm gonna do all my,
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I'm gonna put it into a perverted way. Right? I'm gonna, be a big criminal. I'm gonna make a lot of money. I'll do a lot of drugs. I fuck everything that's been having a heartbeat. I sacrifice children, whatever. And in the end of my life, I say, I want to be saved by God. Priest comes in, you do your stuff, and then I'm saved? What's that kind of
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Well, you're judged by your heart. So if you Yes. Yes. So God knows you can say whatever you wanna say. Yes. But he's gotta know if you have a Josh, Josh, Josh,
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Josh, hold on. There you got it. There you got it. You've been judged by your heart. Your divine soul tells you, like, you screwed up big time, boy. So you need to get clean with it. You need to get clean with it with all the stuff that's in your head. I think, again, God is within me. If I choose good or bad, it's within me. If I gonna put up a different image than me as a king of my kingdom, I worship a false idol. That could be God, that could be Satan, that could be Buddha, that could be whatever the fuck. I am the king of my crown, of my kingdom. When I talk shit about all that stuff that's in me, I'm worshiping the wrong God, dude.
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Yeah, and you're asking me if somebody did all that stuff, and at the end of their life, if they repented,
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then would they be resurrected? Right. Right.
[01:32:29] Unknown:
Well, there's there's different interpretations of this. So some people believe that, you know, when it says that, you know, John 316 where god said his only begotten son for forever, believe with him shall not perish but have everlasting life. Like because some people believe it's just a belief. Some people believe that it's discipleship, and now it says we're saved by grace through faith. And it's basically like it's a gift from God, not of not of yourselves, it but and we're not saved by works. But if you go to James, James talks about show me faith without showing me your works. It's like a byproduct of faith. So there are certain interpretations of how you are saved. So there are some people that believe that it's belief in Jesus. It's repent.
You know, some people believe that there's discipleship involved there where, you know, you're living a certain way. So I think that what happens is, it's a byproduct of your faith. So whatever's between that person and God, if he knows 100% whatever he knows to get them saved, then, yeah, they will be saved even if they went and did all that stuff because a sin there's not like a a table. There's not like a thing where it's weighing out. Like, hey. These sins are worse than these sins. No. No. Right. Sin is a sin, and unbelief is just as bad as as being or or actually it actually says in the bible as well that if you don't take care of your family, it's just as bad as being a nonbeliever. Like like, for for me as a man, if I just said, I I got my 3 kids, my wife, and I just say I bounce on them and I leave them stranded and I go to this other lust woman from lust, whatever, whatever, and I don't take care of my kids and my family, it's just as bad as being a nonbeliever.
If you are sitting at home and like, hey, wife. Go work. I'm gonna sit at home and chill. I'm not gonna do anything. It's it's just as bad as being a nonbeliever. But when I my whole point is, that that is up to God. Like, there is people that live their whole life not believing in God, being atheist, and then they get on their deathbed, and then they just cry out to to God like, I'm so sorry that I did this. But what God knows is that, dude, there's deceptions being built through life that's stopping you from believing. And god can see every single, lane that you've gone through. He he can know exactly the choices that you've made and why you made them and why how Satan had has gotten you, you know, into into doing what you're doing. It's all about temptation.
The reason why you murder, do you the crimes that you're talking about, chase money, chase women is because Satan is tempting you with this bait, and you're taking the bait. So at the end of your life, you know, let's say you're 83 years old and you're gonna die in a year. Like, hey. You're terminally ill. If you know, you're gonna die, and and then you repent and you just you you have a true repentance, then then God I think God would would give you grace, says received by grace through faith. So you start building faith, but the thing is, we have to define what faith is. That's the thing. You know? So some people define faith as just believing. Some people define faith as just saying a prayer. Some people but I think it's more than that. You know? It's actually, like, it's deeper than that. You know? So, yeah. So it's a very interesting question, and it's something that theologians, they battle with. They have debates over what what being saved actually is. And I think that it is, very interesting question, and I and it is a good question. And it's also a good question when you say how many people did Satan kill. Now I'll tell you how many people Satan killed, which which it's it's it's gonna be it's gonna blow your mind, but every single person that dies on this earth is dying because of Satan. You know why?
Because we were meant to live with God and not die. In the garden, if they wouldn't have have listened to, El Satan or or to to the deceiver, then they would've lived forever. And and this was what happens in revelation when there's a new heaven and a new earth. God is actually gonna come down and live with us in the new heaven and new earth. Right? He's gonna live amongst men. But listen to me real quick. If that sin wouldn't happen, then god wouldn't, or I'm sorry, Adam and Eve would've never died. So every single the reason why people die is because of Satan. He killed every single person that's ever died, so he has way more deaths than than than God. Okay? Mhmm. People don't understand that when when they're trying to look they're trying to people are trying to build cases against the Bible without actually knowing the context and reading the Bible fully. I'm not saying Todd Cave is that guy, but, you know, you gotta read the bible and you gotta understand the context. You have to study, and and you'll understand what's really going on. But go ahead. Mhmm.
[01:36:57] Unknown:
I would like to know if if you if you have the the judgment, is there one God that looks over, let's say, 10,000,000,000 souls on this planet and judge them, or are there 10,000,000,000 individuals that judge by themselves if they're good or bad, which makes you you you you as your own God.
[01:37:19] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't think that we're our own God. I think that we're made in the image of God. And in 1st Colossians 15, it says that Jesus is the image of the invisible God. So I think we're made in God's image. I do believe that there's one God, 3 persons, I believe, in the trinity, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, and and God the father. I do believe that, but I believe we are judged by god. And if you are saved as a as a you know, you're totally saved, you repent, and you are saved, the the final judgment is not gonna be you're not gonna be in that final judgment. The judgment that you have, biblically is gonna be called the Bema Seat of Christ, where Christ is judging you by your works. You take your works on earth and you put it in the fire, and then you get your riches that are gonna be in heaven. And I believe that. And I believe god does judge you. There's a book of life that has been written, and every single decision that you make has been written down. And you you could be judged by that if you're not saved. So when you do go to, you know, the judgment, the great white throne judgment, you will be judged on that. I do believe that, and that is still biblical. So what will happen if I do not have a belief system, but do good in the eyes of God?
[01:38:31] Unknown:
I die, but I do not have a I'm in the Amazon forest with the Indians, right? I do everything I supposed to think that's good, and I die. But I never conquered a book that's been telling me about God, or Buddha, or whatever the fuck.
[01:38:48] Unknown:
I think God is a righteous God, so if they've never ever like, let's say you're in the rain forest and you've never been taught the gospel, how could God hold you accountable for that? You're held accountable for what you learn, and you having me on the show is actually a bad thing for you, and it's a bad thing for your audience that don't believe because I'm gonna try to come and teach you what the Bible says, and now you're gonna be held accountable for that. So it might might not wanna have me on, Rob. No. I'm just kidding. So I think they've got us a I'm just kidding, bro. Okay. God is the true martial arts.
And this is together and kicking the shit out of each other. Right? But with love and respect, you know? But I love it, though. But, yeah, I think that God is a just god. What God does with that, I'm I'm not sure. But if they but the whole thing is if you've never you like, whatever you read, like, in the Bible as you're studying the word of God, you gotta understand it's it's also a it's a double edged sword. It's actually it it's a spiritual weapon. But as I read and I know more things, and if I do go against what I've read and I've learned, now I'm transgressing against God. Now I know what's wrong, and I'm still doing it. So I think it's more deep, and I feel it in my heart, dude. Like, when I if I if I like, right now, if I got off to this podcast with you and I went into the bathroom and I I I watched porn and I did something like you or talk about another Right. Bro, it affects me, like, in a just it kills me, dude. So I know. So what I would tell you is I think God is a just God if they've never been exposed to the gospel. Lucky for them because I think they would go to heaven because they wouldn't know. But nobody, not one, is righteous on this earth. Whether you think you do good and you're doing you're doing good, you still have a mind that's corrupted, bro. We're we're still sinful. So everybody on this earth has sinned. The only one that didn't sin, I believe, you know, this is just me, is Jesus Christ. The only one that didn't sin personally. But I think everybody and and all of our works to God are just filthy rags. They're not like, oh, this guy is good. Look at him. He's giving money to the poor. He's doing this. He's doing that. It's just filthy rags. But, you know, that's that's just what the Bible says. We're not we're not good. I have one last question for you, dude. Let's do it. We got we got 20 minutes before my kids come down and go. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we're gonna wrap it up. You add that?
[01:40:55] Unknown:
We're gonna wrap it up. So everybody knows that Jesus Christ has been born out of Maria, and Maria was, not having intercourse with,
[01:41:06] Unknown:
Joseph. Joseph. Talking about Mary and Joseph. Right? Okay. Right. Well, Virgin Mary is that what you're asking?
[01:41:14] Unknown:
Yeah. So how many cases in this world that we know are medically been pointed out that they were, pre they have a pregnancy without having intercourse?
[01:41:30] Unknown:
It can happen. They could do it right now. You could actually do it right now? You can have a you could take a seed from Rob and an egg from Jeanette, and they they could put those they could put those seeds together. Yeah. And they could put it into a woman that and that's a man doing it. So you don't think that god could do that? I mean, god He can't. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you one thing. Did you listening to to the podcast idea? I just told you they could do it right now. Yeah. In a lab, bro. Wait a minute. If you look about few 1000 years back, did they cook? Did he have that kind of, Listen to me. We don't I thought you don't believe history. What what do you believe that they can do that? Who knows? If you believe in history. Okay. There you go. Now you I thought you don't believe in history. Now you're saying you believe in it? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. For sure. For sure. Okay, but why, so how many times
[01:42:37] Unknown:
would that happen on earth normally? How many times would that happen? Yeah, okay, no, no, no. Okay, okay, no, I got another download just to ask you the question. Okay. If we believe in history or not, okay. When you pointed out in the in the in the Bible that Joseph and Maria didn't have sex, but there was Jesus Christ was built, How would that be for people that were reading that if they could read in the first place? Just like, what happened here? Is that like, oh, but that's the God like, thing stuff going on?
[01:43:13] Unknown:
Yeah. People believe it because we believe it by faith, you know? And if you have the foundation of the Bible, right, the old testament, right, and you'd know that the Messiah is coming And if he is if he comes yeah. He's coming. Right? He already came already. But I'm just talking about, like, the people that you're talking about. Like, you know the messiah is coming. You're you're reading the Bible, and then all of a sudden this birth happens, then it's easy for people to believe it because because they believe in God. They have faith. Mhmm. And that's why, like, it's not hard to believe for me. It's hard for you to believe even though even though you know man right now could do it right now. They could take a a so they could take someone from Africa and and someone from I mean, all the way across the world, someone from California. They could take these seeds, and they could put them together in a lab, and they can have a baby of someone that's a virgin. Mhmm. So why is it hard for you to believe that God, the one that created the heavens and the earth, created the moon, sun, and the stars, created everything cannot do that. Pretty pretty simple. Like, our our little puny minds, what God would say to you is, Rob, this is Job 38:4.
Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Where were you when I bind the ladies? Where were you when I did this? Where were like, you you don't I wasn't there. See what God can do. So why would you place a limit on God, but you don't place a limit on what man can do? Man could do that in the lab right now? No, no, I'm unlimited. I'm unlimited
[01:44:36] Unknown:
in my belief system too. That's why I've been reading a book, wrote a book. So hopefully within a few 1000 years, they're gonna pick it up and say, this is, yeah, you know what I'm trying to see here, right? Because I have written it down. It's been printed down in PDFs and stuff like that. The download on disorganized productions. So why would it be impossible for God to have a virgin birth and Jesus Christ to come? What's the problem with that? Okay. Okay. It's nothing is impossible What are you doing today? Because nothing is impossible because God is in the minds within us And everything that we see, that we touch, and we can smell or whatever, has been created by men. So this microphone, this computer, this Wi Fi, this, virtual reality that we're living in, this lamp, this building, whatever, Everything has been created by someone in their mind as a creator, and they created it.
So that's what's my point of view about the creator. And if you want to read that down and you want to write that down, or you want to, listen to it or whatever, fine. Everything will be here. We are the creators of our own kingdom with our own reality and with our own universe. That's why you're out, 1,000,000,000 and billions and trillions of universes because there's so like a plant has to see- You think there's millions
[01:45:58] Unknown:
and millions of universes? Sorry?
[01:46:01] Unknown:
You think there's millions and millions of different universes? Oh, no, it's, it's, it's uncountable because every single orgasm in this world, if it's going to be a bee, a tree, a peacock, a deer, a human, or whatever, we're just a species. There are several species of humans, but we are just species. Just like every single orgasm, organism, I'm sorry for that, for a little porn, you say, but you're trying to attack it. Every little, organism in this world has, first of all, the Fibonacci, stuff in it. And second of all, it has a consciousness to survive. And when it's a living something, it has a God particle in it. 100%.
So the different universes though, like, how do you know that different universes,
[01:46:53] Unknown:
exist?
[01:47:21] Unknown:
Other people in this whole world in this where we can't get off, whatever it is, right? It's an apple, it's a dildo, whatever the fuck this shape of this world is. No one has the same eyes. It's the universe. When I look into you, I look into your soul.
[01:47:39] Unknown:
I see what you're saying. So different okay. So you're not talking about different universes. You're just talking about through, like, every single person has their own universes. Okay. Interesting. We are the universe.
[01:47:50] Unknown:
When we open up, we are the creator. I was thinking about it, about the womb and where you'll be alive. You are the warriors below, and then you give birth, then you open up to a new world. You're coming into the world. When you open up your eyes, your consciousness isn't there. You, you, you, there there's darkness in your eyes, but you're still, you were living. And then all of a sudden, after a few days, your eyes are gonna see, and then your consciousness is gonna build up. Like an AI, you're gonna get data, data, data until you get figure out who you are, what you are. You can learn languages and stuff like that. Yeah, your brain starts developing. I agree. Well, you- Hey, Justin. We are the fucking universe. We are the kingdom of God. And I don't care how you call you God. I don't give a shit about what book that you read that you would resonate with. You are the one.
You are the matrix. You are the one, Neo. Wake the fuck up. Yep. It's interesting, man. It is. I don't want to help you. I'm gonna give you a virtual we we we we did. We will we will definitely,
[01:49:06] Unknown:
and we'll have an we'll have an we'll definitely meet again, man. I think we should have a I think we should have a podcast conference, bro, where we all get together like like, you know, how they have, like, like, a comic convention. We should have a podcast. They should have a podcast conference. And one thing I think is is totally disrespectful to this industry. I'll say this right now. I can make a song right now, and I could put it on Spotify, and I could make money off of it right away. And I don't have to have any advertisements or anything in my song, and I can make money off it right away. What I think is terribly disrespectful, for Spotify to do is to place our content, which is an hour and a half as opposed to, you know, doing a 5 minute song. And we're we're we're emailing. We're our own producers. We are our own, editors.
We do all this stuff, bro. And and Spotify, every view that you get, they don't give you anything. And especially now because it took away advertising. So I think that it's, I think that we should all get together and have a conference and all talk it over, man. I think it'll be amazing to have, like it'd be nice if they have, like, a convention in, like, you know, Las Vegas, all of us meet up or wherever, dude. I think it'd be cool to to have that. When you said that, I just had something in my mind just like like a boxing ring, like 2 tables.
[01:50:24] Unknown:
And, tonight is gonna be the lineup, for mental and Rob. And then who's gonna lose? The the audience decides. And that one goes to another round with, Josh Monday. And do it turn like that? That would be cool. That would be awesome. So my daughter just showed up. She came down. I knew about 6:50 or 7 o'clock it always happened. So Yeah. I know. Thank you for hopping on, George. I think we did a tremendous show. I hope people are going dig into the stuff that you say, the stuff that I say, and make up their own plausible truth. And, I do thank you from the bottom of my heart that we made this happen. And, I wish you a brilliant, beautiful,
[01:51:05] Unknown:
morning, a beautiful day, a beautiful You too, bro. Wherever you are in this beautiful plain planet, man. Have an awesome, you too, man. Have a beautiful, day. You're probably, like, it's probably, it's, what, 6 o'clock there or something? It's gonna be 4 o'clock. Hi there. We're speeding. Yeah. Yeah. It always happens, man. I that's why I start early so I could try to get, you know, a good hour and a half, hour 45 minutes in before she comes out. You're a piece man. You're a bee. Love that. Love that. Hey. Love you, brother. Hey. I love you, bro. Hey. I really enjoyed, meeting you in person, and I I enjoyed the podcast. This it was fun. Yeah. Okay. I'm gonna send you the the raw file so you can do, whatever you want. I'm, I'm a former one. Yeah. Let me tell your audience. I just started another show on cultic conspiracies, show. It's called Sunday Service. So I have Josh Monday, Christian and Conspiracy podcast. My YouTube is Josh Monday Music and Podcast.
And, I just started another it's called Sunday service, and I'm basically going through the bible. And I'll have conspiracies as well on that one. And, it's like a 2 hour show. And, yeah, it's something new that I started. I think I'm on an episode 3 that's coming out on Sunday.
[01:52:12] Unknown:
If you wanna check it out, quote the conspiracy, you'll see Josh Monday, Sunday service. And, yeah, it's a it's a nice it's a fun show, man. Have a good time. Thanks for pointing it out because I just forgot how how could people reach out to you. Could you send me the links also so I can put it in the show descriptions?
[01:52:27] Unknown:
Sure. Yeah. And also shout out your YouTube and how to get a hold of you just in case,
[01:52:32] Unknown:
my audience doesn't know. Yes. So, disorganized productions on every platform that you can imagine. Disorganized productions.com on my website. Disorganized productions on Instagram. I don't think Facebook, I'm not into Facebook anymore, but, TikTok is, I think it's Rob G Disorganized, but I think you can find me on disorganized productions also. Yeah. And a link tree is organized production, and you can find all my links and all the stuff that I'm doing. And it's going to be more and more stuff. Right. Awesome. Yeah, for sure. Because we don't play songs, you know? We can play a song and make money, but we're doing this just for, you know, educate people for God's sake. Education. Yep. It's it's awesome. But I just wanted to point that out. But, hey, thank you so much, bro.
[01:53:18] Unknown:
My other kids are gonna come down too, so it's gonna get crazy. Yeah. Thank you so much for this time. Thank you. It's interesting. Much love, everybody that's listening. Thank you. God bless you. Hey. Have a great day, bro. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Bye bye. Let me know.
Introduction to the Podcast
Upcoming Trip to Peru and Ayahuasca Experience
Introducing Guest Josh Monday
The LA Meetup and Surprises
Podcasting as Personal Time
Personal Transformation and Overcoming Addictions
Spirituality and Religion Discussion
Biblical Interpretations and Conspiracies
Tartaria and Historical Conspiracies
The Role of Religion and Spirituality
Raising Children with Religious Beliefs
The Concept of Good and Evil
Biblical Stories and Interpretations
Judgment and Salvation
Virgin Birth and Faith Discussion
Closing Remarks and Future Plans