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Welcome to another enlightening episode of the Disorganized Productions Podcast. I'm your host, Rob, and today we dive into the light side of life with our special guest, Joost from the Netherlands. In this episode, Joost shares his incredible journey of living multiple lives, from overcoming addiction to exploring spirituality and cults. We explore the profound experiences that shaped him, including his vivid memories from as early as age two, and his unique ability to recall past events in detail.

Joost discusses his upbringing in a commune, his exposure to various spiritual practices, and how these experiences influenced his understanding of life. We delve into the teachings of Buddhism, the Vedic scriptures, and the power of mantras like 'Om'. Joost also shares insights from the Bhagavad Gita, emphasizing the importance of letting go, the duality of life, and the pursuit of spiritual growth.

Throughout the episode, we explore the significance of spiritual practices, the impact of trauma, and the journey towards self-discovery and enlightenment. Joost's story is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the transformative power of embracing both the light and dark sides of life.

Join us on this captivating journey as we uncover the wisdom and insights that can help us all become the best versions of ourselves. Whether you're seeking inspiration, spiritual growth, or simply a deeper understanding of life's mysteries, this episode offers valuable perspectives and thought-provoking discussions.

Books: Neale Donald Walsch - Conversations with God Randy Pausch - The Last Lecture The Freud/Jung Letters - The Correspondence between Sigmund Freud and C. G. Jung Any books on Carl Jung Raymond Francis - Never be Sick Again Miyamoto Musashi - A book of five rings Bruce Lee - The Tao of Jeet Kune Do Speed Mathematics Using the Vedic System Dhammapada (Therava Buddhism) https://www.buddhanet.net/pdffile/scrndhamma.pdf (Dhammapada) Mahabharata (Vedic scripture) Bhagavad Gita As Is (Vedic scripture) https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5WZMlc4xl-8NThSSDJnTmE5N2M/view?resourcekey=0-CupZPMHFLx-54gUDTOTYA (Bhagavad Gita)
Mantra and Chanting: https://www.ananda.org/yogapedia/aum/ The Meaning of the AUM Mantra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pFbl5UFS6A Om Ah Hum Vajra Guru Padma Siddhi Hum (Buddhist Mantra) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dHLEG-okUI Jaya Radha Madhava (Chant) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B46rjUqcM Govinda (Chant)
Lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo Randy Pausch Last Lecture: Achieving Your Childhood Dreams

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Skip me bridge like squirrel, baby.  

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What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect for the law.  

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Well, I'm a walking middle finger   with love.   Welcome, fellow human, to the disorganized productions podcast.   The show that fuels your spirit,   ignites your potential,   and helps you become the best version of yourself.   I'm your host, Rob,   and each episode,   we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you,   tap into your limitless potential,   and conquer life's challenges.   Hey there, fellow human.   Real quick, but   a big question from me to you. There's an opportunity that I will fly to Peru   in October   to,   to get into the jungle,   with some real indigenous   native   Indians.  

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Ladies and gentlemen,   fellow human,   welcome to another episode of Disorganized   Productions.   Episode 71   already.   Oh, yeah. We'll keep on rolling on.   Today, we have part 2 of a very special friend and a special guest.   His name is Joost. He's coming from the Netherlands.   And last time when we spoke each other, we had,   well, not a discussion, but we had a deep insight   of   the dark side of life. Not only life, but also   things that we have   nowadays   in our society.   Vampires   sucking   our energy.   That was one of the topics we covered with Yoast.   But now,   we're gonna have a completely different topic.  

Today, we're gonna,   Yoast is gonna tell us about the light side, the bright side of life,   because he lived 10,   10 lives within the life of Diaz right now.   And,   he wants to share some information.   And we talked about it briefly today. We were very enthusiastic,   as we are, skipping breads like squirrel.   But I know for sure this is gonna be an awesome   podcast. So please   welcome   Yoast.   Thank you, Louis. Thank you for asking me.   Joost, please introduce yourself for the people that do not know you yet,   who you are, where you come from, and what we're going to talk about.  

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Well, like you said, I am a Joost from the Netherlands,   43 years old now,   and I have a past in   cults, in spirituality.   Like you said, I lived 10 different lives. I've been an alcoholic,   been a drug addict. I I I've been everything. You know?   So, yeah, I list a lot of different lives, got a lot of experience   out of those lives.   Right now I know what's good for me and what isn't good for me. And   as all of us people, I am on a pathway.   I hope in the right direction, same as you are, same as everybody else is.   But,   my pathway   has been, like, 10 different pathways   all about together into who I am right now. Right.  

We'll start with something that is really special about me is that I have active memories   from age   2 till now. So it's   40,   1 years of memories.   Wow.   I talked about those, memories with my, father who passed away,   one and a half years   ago, but I wanted to have some answers. So I was, telling him stuff about when I was age 2. Most people don't remember,   age 6.   Some don't even remember age 12.   But I,   spoke about certifications   with,   a lot of detail.   And my father, he was surprised   by that.   Right. He said, how can you know that?   And another reason he was really surprised about that is because he thought he was the only person in this entire planet who had that kind of skill. You know, to   to remember things in vivid details.  

You know,   knowing your whole life from from basically birth till till  

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Right.   And like like a movie pictures,   Vivid.  

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Yes. I can,  

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replay all those events in my in my mind all the time. Right. That that happened to me in my, turbulent lives. In my 10 turbulent lives. Right. And do you need to get a trigger about an event or a situation that you're in? Or you need some factors about the day that, you know, oh,   you knew about that day, 19 December,   'eighty 1, nothing comes, but then all of a sudden, when you get more information, it's like, oh, now I'm in that moment?  

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Well, it's with me,   I am never good with dates and days, you know? Exactly. By the day. So dates to me mean,   literally nothing. The experience   itself does.   So with me, it's when I get into a certain certain situation that is similar to what I have experienced,   the memories come back. They they instantly are there. And sometimes I'm just right there in that moment when I was 2 years old, 4 years old, 6 years old, whatever. I'm reliving the moment.   I even have   vivid dreams,   about situations at night. And the crazy part is when I have a vivid dream   and I wake up in the middle of the night, I can go back to sleep   Uh-huh. And,   start a dream from where I stopped the dream   before I woke up. Know what I mean? That you Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Working with a dream, like playing a movie.  



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Right. Like you play it on pause and then wait a minute, go to the toilet or whatever, go back. I'm going to pick up the dream where I left it.   Exactly. And I can recommend you one thing. It's not for all, for for anyone.   I'm very bad at,   at at dates too, but that's why I got tattoos, because I got some of my tattoos.   There are some dates on it, so I will remember them.   That's the easiest way for me   to remember some dates.  

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Yeah. Well, I have my girlfriend to keep to the agenda and stuff like that. Oh, that yeah. And b, I use my,   even though I hate these things, I use this as my reminder for everything I gotta do, you know. I, Black mirror. Yeah. Black mirror. And I get pop ups, salsa, whatever, when I gotta do the selfie because but,   Right. I'd even forget my birthday, my old birthday, you know.   Like, oh, it's my birthday today and it's all over the end of the day. You know, if if You like to celebrate the birthday or don't you like your birthday?   I used to like it when the world was more social, when,   people didn't connect with each other through the Internet, but connected through each other by,   using the phone and meeting each other in real life and real life.  

Back then, everything,   the eighties, early nineties, those were the golden times, you know. You had real friends. You had real   social,   social defense, real   real friendships.   Today,   everything is about emojis,   the thumb ups,   likes, and, the views,   the anti social media  

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we live in today. Exactly. And easiest way to connect to each other without connecting, just like, oh, happy birthday. Bye, motherfucker.   You know?  

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And the thing I hate the most is when you,   use WhatsApp or Telegram or whatever,   and you write a whole story of of what you experienced today or whatever. You just wanna   talk to someone, and all you get is this. Oh. That's what you know, or  

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2 nettas, okay.   Oh,   sometimes I'm guilty about that too, just to be honest. But I think there will be   virtual birthday parties for people that dug in, like Zoom link,   having 150   cameras,   drinking their self, getting wasted or whatever the fuck they do, and then happy birthday. Happy birthday, Caroline. Happy birthday, dear lord. Every fuck.   Oh, God.  

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I want real human connection,   just like the old times because those times,   even though I had a   dramatic life and, trauma and whatever,   those times were the happiest times,   for me. Right. Because,   back then   I had, like, 100 friends, you know. Everybody was my friend. I could talk to anybody. I could could make friends with anybody.   Even with people everybody hated, I could they were friends to me, you know? Right.   And all of a sudden you end up 40 plus and you can count all your friends on one hand.   Oh, yeah. That's true. We talked about it before, right? Yes. Exactly. And I wanna go back to the times where things were better. You know? More personal. More,   like I say like I said, I don't want a thumbs up when I tell the whole story to you. I want Right. You wanna interact.  

I want interaction. I I prefer a phone call over,   chatting.   Right. With   a phone call, you can hear each other's emotion. You can hear when someone is enthusiastic.   I mean, if I type a whole text and the only thing I get is okay, it's like,   that person is saying, well, fuck off. I don't want to want to hear your opinion or whatever.  

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Right. But the funny thing is, even if you interact with the phone call,   it's more sincere.   Because I could get into a supermarket,   read your message,   like, oh, wow, that's really, wow.   Oh, got groceries and stuff like that. Oh, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling. That's   a 37.20.   Okay, got the cash, whatever. It's like, okay.   But the thing is, when you interact, and the funny thing is I want to point out, because I'm skipping breast like squirrel again.   You mentioned like you've got 5 friends you can count on your hand, probably maybe less. Less. Less, yeah. The thing is, a lot of people say, oh, you're so alone. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not lonely.   I'm   alone.  

All   one   alone.   That means maybe I only have 2 or 3 friends, but I can call them in the middle of the night,   and without any saying, without saying anything,   get in the car. We got some fucked up things to do.   I'm gonna tell you later about it. They're gonna jump in. They're never gonna question anything about it. That's what I want to point out. And alone is something different than lonely.  

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And even being lonely isn't the worst thing.   You know, the, yes, some owner of a lonely heart.   Better than a owner of a broken heart. 100%.   When a friend or a loved one backsteps you,   that's more painful than being lonely. Being lonely,   to me is a point in life   where every opportunity is open because you've got no more friends, you've got no more,   social life, you've got no more Or you've got nothing.   And at that moment, you are really,   lonely,   lonesome   by yourself.   And those are the times if you use those opportunities to write and you may be seditious for yourself   about friendships or whatever,   you can build up a life that's better than all the lives you had before that, if you know what I mean. So being lonely   ain't about being a broken heart. That's that's that's   yes was right in that song.  



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It was a yes. Yeah. All right. I think it was yes. I thought it was hard.   Oh, was it hard? Well, but I I'm not sure. And I gotta   It could be hard, but well, Let's figure it out.  

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I know both, yes, and then both.  

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Or is it, On the New Haven?   Just Yes. Yeah. You were right. It it was a song from Yes.  

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Yeah. Exactly. I I knew I was right   because of my memory.  

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You got a tremendous   memory.  

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All times my memory is corrupted because,   I also remember things people tell me. So if people tell me a lie, I also remember that. So  

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Oh, okay.  

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Shit in, shit out. Sometimes my facts aren't right. And   what I always say in in the podcast and, I am also writing a book and in it brew in that book, the first thing I say to people is,   I can point you to Whalley. I can point you to facts   and whatever,   but always   and always do your own research. Whatever people tell you, me,   you,   a priest, whatever,   always do your own research   because A 100%.   You take other people's reality   to be your own reality.   So you have to make your own reality because you live only in your own reality   and not my reality. I don't live in yours. You don't live in mine. However,   I can point out certain facts and truths and and and insights. You can as well and you can share those. And whatever feels good for you, you can,   take as your own reality, but always   try to stick to your own reality.  

Never let anybody,   force you into their world, into their reality   and will and whatever?  

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I say always, you got to believe your own plausible truth.  

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Exactly.  

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Talking about that.   And,   we talked about vampires. We talked about,   energy sucking vampires,   the dark side, cults, all that stuff.   But,   you also had a tremendous lifestyle of being in the bright, in the light.   Please tell us more about that because I know that you prepared   a lot of   information that,   is tremendous.  

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Yeah. First, I'm going to tell a bit about my own history.   I come from a family with,   me and a 2 year older brother.   I also have later in life, I have sister as well,   but it was, my father, my mother, and,   me and my 2 year old brother.   However,   my mother was,   both a narcissist   and the spiritual   person. She was always into cults and whatever.  

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Mhmm.  

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At my age of 2 and when my brother was 4, she,   all of a sudden left my father,   and she went into a cult   with me and my brother. My father was at work, and he got home, and we were gone.   Wow. He didn't hear about us for 3 months. We were we just disappeared.   It was the back one, Osho.   Oh, you know Internet. Yeah. Exactly.   The Ultra   Yoga,   people that had sex with everybody, it's it was one big hobby.   Right.   I remember,   we list at a   commune that I don't know how to how to call it in English. Yeah. It's a commune.   Yeah. Where,   a house where all sorts of families live together.  

The weirdest part was everybody there was walking naked.   Why? Everybody.   They didn't   have sex, but they walked naked because that was their way of living. It was really   wild and crazy to see and Right.  

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I well, I do park 1.   I walk naked when and when I do podcasts, not work, I walk naked normally.   But not with a lot of people around me, just to be honest.   And it sounds good, but   when you see a lot of people naked, not everyone   is suitable for   your perverted   whatever,   right? Because that's not the fucking thing.  

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Yeah. Some people don't look great naked. No. No.  

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Some people even look,   well, well, no. Okay. That's not a topic. Please continue because I'm gonna I'm gonna live there. Live there  

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until I was age 4 or 5 or something. Mhmm. And my mother, got her own rental house   in in in the Netherlands,   one street away from my father's house.   And at the moment we lived there,   life started to get better because every weekend I was visiting my father's place   because he was a teacher. So we had 5,   5 times a day work.   He was also an alcoholic. So,   after work, he always had to drink. Okay. The weekends as well. He never,   he would never drink if he had to work or drive his car or whatever. But once he got home and he had,   nothing to do outside, he would always drink.  



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Is is that called a responsible drinker?  

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He was responsible as a drinker, but he was an alcoholic.   He   was a chain smoker,   alcoholic,   everything.  

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Yeah. Sounds very familiar with my dad.  

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And I think the reason that happened is because of my mother, because she was an narcissist and whatever.   Anyways, I was living in my mother's playdates,   and at age 6, my stepfather   came in to our lives.   The good thing about him, he brought a more stable,   situation in our home. Mhmm.   I got my head sister, thanks to him, and he was   more like a father figure than my real father was. Because my real father, he was always   drinking away his sorrows, and he was always,   too nice to to me and my brother. He always wanted to spoil us, if you know what I mean, because he   he felt bad. Yeah. Yeah.  



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You know?   To ask you, Brag. Compensation.   Right? Yes.  

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So he was never a real father, but my stepfather,   he saw that we have both left hands. We couldn't do We couldn't fix a bike. We couldn't,   do anything. We were just spoiled kids and,   spoiled kids at weekends. But when,   I was at my mother's house, she didn't pay any attention to us whatsoever.   She had kids, but she didn't take care of them. Wow. If you know what I mean. So we were just   sort of abandoned by her.   My stepfather really changed that. And he was also into a lot of spiritual,   things in life.   But he wasn't into the back one, but more,   other things he did, for example, aikido.  

Mhmm. Aikido is not only a self defense,   practice, but it's also a spiritual pathway.   Yep. A pathway of non violence.   So he did that. He did a lot of yoga   things. He did,   sieetsu massage,   trainings. He had those.   And he did a lot of those things, and he taught me as well. Mhmm.   And the best part was, when we went on vacations, we always went to special places.   For example,   have a special weekend whenever you had,   macrobiotic   food   and, spiritual training. So as a kid, they had special spiritual trainings. Oh, wow. For kids,   I learned siejitsu massaging there as well.  

And it's a type of massage where you can really,   dissolve blockades   Mhmm.   Your mood system, in your muscles, in in whatever.   And I learned meditation there. I learned a lot of of of amazing things, amazing skills that that   stick with you forever, you know? Right. Right. Like bicycle  

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bicycle.   Riding a bicycle.  

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And he also put me on judo. He, felt that it was really important for me to   learn how to defend myself.   Mhmm.   But without violence. And judo is is one of the best sports for that.  

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I did that too.   Yeah. It's it's Until what grade did you do it?  

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Well, I did. I I I got the yellow belt not not not further because Okay. Okay. I had a lot of things on my mind as a kid and and a lot of stuff happened. So   Right.   I can throw a rabbit people and   I can hold people in certain positions, but that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Right. But,   I liked it anyways.  

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I liked, you know, always. It was the only thing that I could do without   really harming someone.   Although   if you want to, you could.  

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Yeah. And the best thing about judo that I learned   is how to fall.   Oh, yeah. For sure. The first thing you learn that judo Yeah. Chin or your chest, Always. Breaking. Breaking your fall and   push your, arms back. And but also your chin, always.   That is that's the only way to never ever break your neck   Right.   All your jazz.  

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And I like the suffocation stuff and the breaking stuff.   Yeah. Yeah. You can break a suffocate, but you don't have to. No. No. The the the thing is if you know how to do it   Yeah.   I mean, with the, with the, with the, with the locks and stuff like that.  

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So anyways, back to my life,   I had those kinds of, weekends, special weekends or special vacations.   They were really, really amazing.   We also,   went to Switzerland   a couple of times where we would climb mountains,   in the summertime.   Wow. On top thereof, it was 30 degrees   Celsius, but there was snow also because it was the mountain top. You know, you could Right.   In midsummer.   Pan. So cool.   The best thing was, the melting water.   Drinking that. It was the most pure water you can drink because it goes,   around stones and minerals. And when you drink it, it's it's   it's it's fell from the sky, and   it's it's filtered by sand and stones   and and and minerals and whatever.  

Right. And   in Switzerland,   between the mountains,   there always is a lake.   Mhmm. No matter how deep it is, you can always see the bottom of the lake. It's Yeah. Lillo   than melting water. You can basically drink it.   And if you are swimming there, it's really cold or even in summer because it's melting water. Right.   But you are you are swimming, and even the fishes   swim around you. It's it's it's   Wow. You are one with nature if you go to Switzerland. It's it's an amazing place, really.  

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Switzerland is one of the most beautiful cultures I have ever been.  

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Yeah.  

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For sure. I got friends living there, which is,   really cool, because it's a really nice place to be. It's very expensive,   but nature, if you love nature, like mountains, lakes, and stuff, hiking,  

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that's the place to be. In my opinion, it beats France   on every single front.  

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I love that because I I don't like France.   Me neither. Not people at either.   Okay. Please continue.  

[00:28:09] Unknown:

So anyways, we had those kind of vacations. We had spiritual,   vacations. That's so cool.   But   another,   spiritual   event that happened in my life was,   the priest we had,   from the Roman Catholic Church. Mhmm. Because he wasn't a normal priest.   When you do the communion training and the formal, I don't know what it's called in English, but when you're age 12, you learn about   Bible lessons or whatever.   Right. So I I had those as well. But,   most beautiful part was my priest, even though he was a Roman Catholic priest,   he was also a Buddhist.  

Oh, wow. And he was even, during Bible classes, teaching us Buddhism   because he felt that he had a very open mind, and he felt that was important.   And the best experience I had during,   one of the classes we had, we had to lay down on the floor,   close our eyes,   and he would say,   focus on your breathing   while you are laying down.   Tighten all your muscles   and let them loose.   Now tighten your feet, let them loose. Your legs, let them loose. Your your body, your arms, your face. Right.   So you're,   feeling your whole body   from toe to   To toe. Head. No? To face.  

And then he says,   try to stand up   without moving a muscle.   So you you do while still doing your breathing,   and you do had at at the full focus and control of your body Uh-huh. You have to stand up.   And he said, now look around.   And   the raky weird part,   I saw every I saw the whole room.   I saw myself laying there. I saw the other kids laying there.   I saw the priest walking around and walking and talking us through the meditation, through the astral projection.  

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Uh-huh.  

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And then he says,   your physical body can't,   but the body you are in right now can fly.   So I want you to fly through the roof   and see how high you can get.   So I saw the whole church. I saw vehicles. I saw people walking. I saw people doing groceries, whatever.   I saw   a whole part of the tunnel around the church.   And I was flying around, flying around, and he said, keep flying. And he said, there's always a chord,   a line. In your silver chord.   And then your astral body. And he said,   now I want you to   start focusing back on your breathing,   focus on your muscles,   and slowly return   and lay down back on where you were laying down.  

And now open your eyes.   And that that was   a guided meditation. I   truly believe that when you try to do actual projection,   you really need to do it guided at first. Is  

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there something like on on YouTube or so that there's a guided meditation?  

[00:31:39] Unknown:

There always should be. Else,   ask our friend, Shamis   Yeah. To speak into the guidance. She has a really great voice.   I gave you the Astral projection  

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paper. Right? Right. Right. Yeah.  

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Maybe tell her to   speak in a guided meditation.   Okay.   Okay.   Because she really has a voice for it. And and if she does,   get get get the voice and put it on your YouTube.   Run. Speak it on YouTube about with your own   meditation the way I explained it.   Right. And and the way   the the the the the article explains it. Right. Right. Right. So so basically, it's it's  

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a recap.   It's it's breathing.   It's   tension of your muscles, but 1 by 1, like the hand, the arms, your head,   going upside down from your body, from the feet up to your head.   And letting go of that, you can eventually   try to stand up without moving a muscle,   because you are standing up, not your body. Right? Exactly. And the most important  

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part about tension is   you get up the tension and you let go.   Right. Let go of every control of every muscle in your body because   at the moment I'm talking, I am controlling the muscles.   But the the   in most important part, it is to let go   every muscle. You can only do that by   tensing up   and letting go. Tense up, let go. Breathe in,   all it,   let go. Let go. Right?   So, yeah, that's that's   the basic of breath free meditation.   In life, I also,   did Tai Chi. And in Tai Chi, there are practices where you get blindfolded.   Right.  

And you have to see with all your other senses   and with your 6th sense,   you know, feel   or think there is something there.   And we had a,   a room with the Tai Chi in, but there were were pillars,   iron metal,   pillars Mhmm. In room to do all the room and whatever.   Those pillars, if you touch them, they feel cold because it's it's metal. You know?   And people feel warm.   The   and you   get blindfolded and then you walk really slow and really balanced through the room. Mhmm. You aren't allowed to   touch around you. You gotta   just walk. Sense it. Right? Hence it.  

The weird part is, just like Astral projection, you can eventually see the whole room just like,   their their fault for, the Marvel Comics does. Right.   The superhero.   But,   you feel the cold energy from the pillars.   And you feel the warm energy from people around you.   Right.   You feel from 1 meter away that someone is approaching you because you feel their aura, their warmth, their,   it's really crazy. You are blindfolded, but you see   everything.   But you do, again, first, a lot of practices and and exercises before going into that meditative   walk.  

It's even the it's the same walk as, the rice paper walk, if you heard about it. It's it's paper made out of rice.   Right. And if you walk all it normally, it it it breaks.   But if you do the Tai Chi walk, it doesn't break the water, the the the paper.   Right.   And you do we can have such techniques that you walk,   on water. Not not all water like Jesus, but  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

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But it makes sense. Right? The water doesn't move while you walk.   You know? No waves, no, whatever, because you're going really, really slowly.  

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I like that   to do stuff that is really about your senses, like smell, the feel,   hearing. Well, that's my little bad point, but that means my smell is better than normal people because my hearing is is bad. Taste, of course.  

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Well, I can can teach you Shao Tai Chi. We still gotta meet up, some days.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can teach you the stuff. No problem.  

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Right. Right. Please continue. That that  

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that fiscal meeting, SEO projection, we can also do. I can guide you through it.   Like I said,   fiscal meetings are way better than   than   Sure. Yeah.   So we really gotta do that.   I also did some yoga, hatha yoga,   And that's, the the more like the sports version of yoga. It's it's really,   training your muscles,   lengthening your muscles, stuff like that. Mhmm. Retching,   strengthening.   It's   the the manly version of yoga.  

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Okay.   What? Hard and core.  

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Well, women can can do it. Most women do it as well, but this is basically to make your body stronger.  

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Okay.   But because there are different types of yoga, right? So you got, Atar?  

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Atar is the the exercising yoga.   Right. Atar, prana yoga.   Prana is the same as kih n g, kih. Right? Energy?   Chinese, it's it's energy yoga.   In Prada, you,  

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do breathing Exercising. Breathing right in front of you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Stuff like that.   You got tantra yoga, which is, sexual yoga. You got   basically yoga for everything.   You even got,   mathematical   yoga   because yoga called from the Vedas, the Vedic,   cultures. The Vedic.   You even have a book, Speed   Mathematics.  

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Using the Vedic system.  

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So, yeah. Okay.   That's that's also there as well.   So there are all types of yoga, but,   some types,   suit with you. Other types don't.   Right. You also have, chanting,   mantras.  

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I do that because you told me to. I did it before.   Like, I like to   like the the, I don't know if you hear it on the sound. I like to   But you said to me, just like, put on a tantric,   a Sanskrit, or   the Om. So, I find a few of them on Spotify, and just like, oh, yes.   One hour of Om chanting, but it's in different levels.   And just like you said, try to do the same thing as they sing.   You're going to get this vibration,   because it's all vibration, right? If I say, ohm   or.  

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And I will   talk about that sound   as well because it comes from Sanskrit, one of the oldest languages in the world.   Right.   I will, go to that,   also talking about my personal life because Right. About the light side, I've written down a lot of things, which I will,   bring up Cool.   Later.   Yeah. Back to my life. I also had a lot of trauma and troubles. For example, when I was,   14 years old, my brother,   got his first psychosis.   And,   he woke hearing voices,   evil voices. He   even tried to kill me 2 times. One time he,   tried to set my rule on fire while I was sleeping.  

We were sleeping in the attic, so there was only one way down.   It was like a ladder. It wasn't a Stanford letter.   Mhmm. And he set his own room on fire. So,   I woke up, smoke in my room, and   it's false. It it happened because his voice just told him to do it.  

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Wow.  

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And another experience I had with him with him, we were,   because my mother wasn't doing anything. She was a narcissist.   She, always wanted me and my brother to do the whole household   tasks.   Right. Go to school, do the household tasks, and even,   I came to the point where I was like 15 or 16.   And she told me, well, we don't have enough money. You gotta go to work, Jost. You've gotta make some money that we can spend on ourselves.   So even that's that's a that's a narcissist,   mother.   But we were doing the dishes for me and my brother, and,   he lost all the cook's knife, a really sharp knife.  

Oh, shit. And then he said to me,   he said to me, Joost, the voice has told me, Sonfie.   And he was,   looking really psychotic. You can see it in people's eyes. Right. Someone goes into a demonic possessed state,   because in my opinion,   psychosis   is also a sort of a demonic possession.   Mhmm. As you literally see demon eyes at that moment, he was looking at me, and he said, did you know that Jost   means the devil?   You have a tough saying Joost Mag Hedwader. Joost may know.   Right. Do you know that Joost?   In Joost may know means the devil may know.   That's the true meaning of that saying.  

And he never looked he never looked it up. He never,   could possibly know about that.   Later in life, I I Googled it, and it's true. Joost   literally means the devil.   I found a really crazy path when it comes to my mother.   Have you seen the the movie The Omen?   Yes. That if someone is born on June 6th   at 6 o'clock,   you got an antichrist.   And you can create many antichrists   as long as they are   Yes.   June 6, 6 o'clock.   Guess what, Drey, my mother is born.   June fucking 6th.  

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Oh, shit.  

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And me and my brother were both born July, so 1 month after   June 6th. So really close,   but just not the right time to be an antichrist, you know? So,   the other movie, they talk   about it, but   in some ways,   I,   when it comes to numerology,   I sort of,   when I look at my mother, I kinda start to believe in that kind of shit, if you know the way. Right.  

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Well, it's fascinating. If you take numerology   or,   gene keys,   all that stuff, like, how the hell did they know?   Well, I want to ask you something. Do you think that   the traumas in your brother and in your life,   in your days,   triggered that kind of psychosis by your brother? Or was it drugs maybe   or something else?  

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Well, with my brother,   when my mother,   disappeared at age 2,   my brother was age 4.   You really become conscious   as a human being at age 4. Before that, you aren't truly conscious about   your surrounding and things that are happening.   Right. You're all just,   kind of   experiencing the world, but you aren't fully conscious yet. Mhmm.   So my brother was age 4. So he   experienced   every single thing of my mother living.   Leaving my father,   taking us with her, you know, so   he got the biggest trauma out of that.   And it's also,   I believe   in, every child take certain curses from their parents.  

But it goes to my father, I,   also used to be an alcoholic. I also used to be a heavy smoker. I also used to be   easily,   addicted to stuff. And my brother has that as well.   I beat every addiction, so that family curse   my father gave to me.   I finally said, no, it's enough. Mhmm. I beat it, but my brother never did. So he was into drugs and then the whole psychosis thing started. And Right. He is fucked for the rest of his life.   Right. Some people call for the word fuck, but it's it's it's the best word to describe it.   Yeah. He either takes it as medicine,   pharmaceutical medicine. I'm really glad,   those sort of medicine do exist that can subdue certain heblotions and subdue certain   demonic possessions, so to say.  

Mhmm. If he takes those drugs, he is kinda like a a walking solby.   Really slow,   drooling out of his mouth.   Right.   He's in a zombie state. He doesn't have much emotions, but he's stable.   Uh-huh. If he doesn't take his medicine, he turns   he first turns into a crazy person.   And   soon after that, he changed into a really dangerous person.   He even attacked people in his life. He was,   in a mental institution,   and they were kind of figuring out how to how much of the medication he needed. So they bailed out the medication, build it up, stuff like that. And at the moment they bailed it down, he was slowly getting back into his   psychosis, into his   demonic state, so to say. Right. The lady,   who was bringing tea and and other drinks to all the patients,   and my brother literally   attacks her.  

Wow. He punched her. He kicked the the the tea out of her hands, stuff like that.   After that happened, me and my father, we were visiting him, and he was behind a glass wall with some bubbles in it,   isolation, cell.   The most British parts, if you've seen Silence of the Lambs Yeah.   Clarisse meets Hannibal Lecter.   Yeah. Hannibal Lecter, he says, hello, Clarisse. In a really scary way. Right? Yeah.   My brother was standing there fully psychotic,   his eyes light like a fucking demon,   and he said, hello, father.   There was to all he said.  

It was really fucking it was silence of the land in one life. Oh, shit.   Fucking crazy.   Fucking crazy.   Oh.   My brother,   he died from the moment he got,   his his his terrible illness. Right.   Because before that, he was my bigger brother. He was someone I could look up to, someone who,  

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Yeah. Really fucked for life, just like you said. He he Yeah.  

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Sorry. I had that experience as well.   Yeah. Age 14   15, 16, so my whole school was fucked as well. I couldn't study at home because my home was a dangerous place with a  

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Wow.  

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With a temporary killer in the house, you know?   I mean, every time he got into psychosis, he could kill me because he really believed I was a devil.   He really believes that. Wow.  

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Okay. I got to ask you, are you?  

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Well, I think it's always when it comes to certain dark side skills I got.   When it comes to mesmerizing   people,   like I said in the, in the dark side, episode, I can,   go into a rule   and let people do things they don't want to do at start, but I can put them in a certain Manipulate them, right? Messerized,   manipulated states, and I can let them do things.   Another thing,   I can ask people their deepest,   like in the Lucid Ferriti  

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Right. What's your deepest desire?  

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I can ask what the deepest desire is, even a stranger I never met,   and then it will tell me.   So, yeah, in a way, I think maybe I could be, but   not the way my brother says.  

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I know. Right? Right.  

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And,   I don't, don't wanna die yet.  

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No.   You know what I mean? Life's too painful.  

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There is that as well.   In in darker periods of my life, I told that in the other podcast, I   joined   satanic cults, vampiry cults,   whatever.   Mhmm. But all Sherbaud,   at my more brighter moments,   when I was in a more enlightened state, so to say,   I joined other types of girls,   like, the Hare Krishna movement, ISCOM   is the real name.   It's literally called Krishna consciousness.   So it's basically having the same consciousness   as a god.   That's basically the whole goal of that cult, not to   worship a god,   but to   have the same consciousness, same as Buddhism, you know? Uh-huh.   And   when I go back to the priest, he gave me a lot of books and movies like Little Buddha with,   Keanu Reeves, I think it is. Yeah. Yeah. He gave me 7 years of tea beds.  

A couple of movies he gave me.   Xavier's a tea pet is with Brad Pitt, that movie. Also really,   really beautiful movie to watch.   He gave me the Dhammapada.   It's the   the verses that   the Kautama and Buddha   told to his disciples, and they,   written it down. Again,   the Pali language,   Sanskrit is older, but the Pali language is is the   language when Buddhism   really   came into life, around 500 to 600 years before Christ.  

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Okay.  

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Oh, yeah. That's that's a lot of long time ago. And the Sanskrit is even,   like   5000 to 10000 years before Christ.   Wow. Old even claimed that some of the Vedic,   scriptures are even 100000   years old. So   yeah. Hey.  

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And all of them, that is Arthurian world,   the texts,   like the,   Mesopotamian   area,   the clay tablets.   The Egyptian   hieroglyphs, yeah. I think Egyptians should, well,   they say it's 5000 years or something like that. We don't know. I mean   We don't know. Should you believe someone in the lab coat or with some glasses on with a beer or whatever?   No, no. You never got my recognition.   It's not.  

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You can never tell for sure because history is always written by the,   by the winners, by the survivors. Yes. And it's his  

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story.   Exactly.   Right?  

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And with religion and and stuff like that and language, it's the same. It's belief system, which is dogmatic,  

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induction, and,   for sure. Exactly. Inductiveization. So, yeah, I had  

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Buddhist experiences,   Hari Krishna   experiences.   I,   was also   in   a sailing world my mother was in, and it was a world that,   was open to every religion. So they did chanting.   They did Buddhist   exercises.   They did, Christian prayer. They did,   Hindu prayers, whatever. They combined everything that that,   is good about religion.   The   spiritual parts,   and they last out the,   the political parts. Right. Right. And the not so good parts.  

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What what was it called?  

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The I'm Movement.   Okay.   The I'm  

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Right. Can I ask you a question?   Yes.   What triggered you   to dig deep in all these things?   Was it the quest for your own religion or that you want to figure out some things about the dark side and the bright side?   Because   you certainly   would think like, okay, this is a path, you know, the light path or a dark path.   I'm interested in whatever path that I want to walk through. But you did so many things. It's not like, oh, it's Hare Krishna. No, it's also Buddhism. It's also Catholic. It's   Feng Shui.   There are so many things that you did.   What triggered you to   figure all that stuff out?  



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Well, first of all, I am, mostly   an observer   kind of person. I just,   especially in the past, I was the kind of quiet guy. I   love to sit   in the back even when I was at the at the bar, everybody was partying. I would prefer to be more in the corner and just observe what's happening. Right. And with warrior.   And with religion   and spiritual stuff,   I do the same.   And I not only observe, I also take all the puzzle pieces out of every religion,   political things,   news, whatever.   Mhmm. Every information I get, I just take the puzzle pieces,   put them together, and form my own reality in life. Right. Because   not everything in Buddhism   is something I agree with. Not everything in the Vedic   literature   is something I agree with.  

Not everything in Christianity   is something I would agree with. So basically I'm observing, I'm putting pieces together. I create my own reality,   and I take the parts that really   do good for me, if you know what I mean. And I   leave out the parts that is that don't resonate with me. Right. I think that's really imposing for everybody.   And I think,   to be honest, the greatest example for me was that priest, I think,   and my stepfather because they were both   really open minded people   Mhmm.   That didn't stick to 1  

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Religion or or or belief system. Right? Yeah.  

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Yeah. If it is a political   opinion or if it's a religion or whatever,   it's always a reality   people speak with or don't stick with.   And,   I think the true power in,   getting enlightened to an enlightened state in a higher consciousness   is   to pick up all the puzzle pieces that resonate with you and form your own reality,   become your own prophet.  

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If you will. Yeah. It's it's a funny thing that we talked about it,   because you know a little bit about my day. So that's when people watching this, watching this podcast, they see that sometimes I'm I'm,   I'm a little bit tired because of the day, but that's all right.   We talked about it like Jesus had not the path of Christianity.   He did a lot of   kicking around,   being   at temples and at churches,   and kicked out all the idols, all   the statues.   And he figured out, like, every single religion there was.   And a lot of these   religious   kind   of figures,   Jesus, Buddha,   whatever,   they did that. It's not like, oh, this is Buddhism. No, it's the way you look at religions.  

You look at the way you live, the way you treat other people. I think that's   the most valuable part   of when you dig into religions, right?  

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Exactly. And when you look at Buddhism, it's the path   of Gautama Buddha,   who was first Prince Siddhartha. He was a really rich prince. He was one of the most elite persons.   But he noticed,   he had a question,   a really important question to him. He was like,   why do I live   in all this wealth? I can eat what I wanna eat. I can fuck what I wanna fuck, you know? Mhmm.   While other people are suffering. Why it is said, Why are some people suffering while other people only gain joy?   Mhmm. That was the most important,   question   Buddha had. And,   the book, the Dhammapada   is from the Theravada   part of Buddhism. I I will share links after the podcast,   as usual. Please do. Dhammapada   or whatever.  

And   he he was trying to figure   the answers to his questions. Why is there suffering? Why is there   why am I so rich and other people so poor? And,   so basically, when you go to Buddhism, you are basically following his path and the insights he got out of the questions he was asking.   And certainly questions resonate   with your own situations.   Uh-huh. You know? But other questions he asked and got quest and support don't really resonate with you because you don't,   you haven't experienced those things or   Right.   It was a different time, a different world back then.  

So that's why I always say take what resonates   with you. So when you had Buddhism, you are following the path of,   I even got statue.   I don't believe   praying to statues, but for me, this is,   more of a symbolic thing of the   the pathway   The Prince Siddhartha followed, and eventually, he called himself Gautama, the Buddha.   Uh-huh. And he wanted to teach everyone how to become a Buddha.  

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Do do you know what the the word Buddha means?  

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He who is is enlightened.   Uh-huh.   I think that's that's that's most important   meaning. And Exactly. The most beautiful thing about Buddhism is that,   Buddha said that everybody   has the potential   to to become a Buddha   or a bodhisattva.   A Buddha is someone who gets enlightened and leaves his body.   Uh-huh. And a bodhisattva is someone who becomes enlightened   but wants to keep   all this planet to help others become   Buddhas or bodhisattvas.   Oh, wow.   So there are,   probably   enlightened people walking on this planet that we don't know of.   But   lightworkers,   whatever you want to call them,   but they are enlightened to a certain state. But they   used to remain here.  

And so choose to go up higher into Athens or other worlds or, whatever you wanna have. Quiet.   And,   yeah, when you look at at Christianity,   the worst part is the first testament because that's not the story of Esau, Jesus, or or whatever you wanna call him. It's only the 2nd testament.   When it comes to Christianity,   I prefer the Orthodox   Christianity because that's only been the Jesus story. Mhmm. And it also has the parts that aren't in the Bible because Jesus is a baby and then he is 27 and then he's 33.   What happened to all the other years, you know? It was as fast as the Internet.  

But there are enough books and and,   research that has has been done on the last years of Jesus where we went to India to learn about Buddhism, because Buddhism was created 500   years before he was born. So   that was one of the most important religions   back then there. So he went there, learned Buddhism, and   probably,   probably,   the Vedic scriptures and, Hinduism as well. Even though   Hinduism is a modern language, it doesn't even exist.   It's it's the name we gave because   it's called the Vedic   literature.   It's it's,   everything that is written down in Sanskrit.  

Mhmm. It's just a name people gave to it eventually years after.  

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Okay.  

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But it's it's it's basically, if you look at one of the books I got, the Bhagavad Gita,   it's a Vedic   literature. If you look at this mathematic book I got, it's Vedic literature   about   mathematics.   Great.   And   another really   beautiful thing about the Vedas,   the Vedic,   scriptures,   is that not everybody could read and write back then.   Exactly.   So there was a way   they developed   to let people remember   all the,   verses, all the   verses and prayers   and whatever.   Mhmm.   And the way they did it is through making songs out of it.  

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Right.  

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Because,   when you   you watched the movie The Lion King, right?  

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Yeah.   Do you know A time ago. Do you know every conversation,  

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Tmall, Pumbaa, and Simba had together?   Nope.   Do you remember every words of the song Akuna Matata?  

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Probably   not, but I know your point.  

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Probably   you could sing it along. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.   And Disney is is using   that thing of of the   of what the people did that were speaking Sanskrit.   Right. People weren't talking to each other. They were singing to each other. So people would easier remember the words.  

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I mean, it's It's frequency   again, right?  

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It's also frequency,   but it's also,   that it's easier to remember a song   than to remember a book.   No.  

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Have you been frozen now?   No.  

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Yeah, you were fully frozen.  

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Yes. Yeah, my internet is,   giving me sometimes a little bit of   pain in the whatever.   But that's going, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh. What else part about,  

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how much can you remember and how many books can you remember?  

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Right. So,   oh, oh, I can   tell you that   I have a big database   on songs.   Like even the old songs, like 20, 30 years ago that I listened to as a teenager,   maybe when I haven't listened to them for 20 years or 30 years, when   it come to the radio or whatever,   I can probably remember   70% or 80% of the lyrics of the song.  

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Perfect. For sure.   But can you remember the books you learned at the No, no. Maybe the highlights.  

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Well, well, the,   what's it called?  

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The basics, the most important. Yeah, the basics,  

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where the book is, you know, going through or the message.   Maybe that, but the rest, no. No. But waterworks, right? No.  

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So that's Fascinating.   That's another thing that's really,   big on on on the Vedic,   culture and the Sanskrit language that it was all about singing.   And the teacher, the Brahman   Mhmm.   Puts pupil and he would become the new Brahman, etcetera, etcetera.   And it's there wasn't just one Brahman. There were many. All over India, all over,   the world even. And they were   spreading the knowledge that way   until they'd eventually   written it out.  

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Right. And the thing is fascinating because when you point out the singing, I was thinking about the gospel, right, the Catholic   gospels.   But also in the Catholic   Christianity   church, they sing   when the priest is going to say something, then they have   these verses that they always sing.  

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Exactly.   Wow. I like that.   When it comes to the Christian church, I always believe that   invoices   are stronger.   When it comes to the   to the churches, I think Latin   is more powerful than English or Dutch or whatever. Oh, 100%.   When you do a prayer here in Latin   or, for example, an exorcism like like they did did back   the old days Mhmm. I think the power behind those prayers and and and exercises are way stronger than the   the prayer we got right now.  

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100%.   Because,   even because   the Latin has more   open   letters, like O, A, E, A.   So, the resonation   and the frequency   of the words   are much more powerful than cutting it out.   And I think English   is not that old.   It's   not. It's more probably Spanish,   is much, much older. And a lot of people think that that,   you know, oh, you gotta learn English. No. Learn Spanish or Chinese.  

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Well,   Spanish, French,   and   Italian. All languages are   all they all have the origin for Latin.  

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Exactly. Anglo Saxe,   No.   What's it called?   Yeah.   Latin based.  

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So I do believe that the power of of songs, the power of ancient languages   are always   stronger   than the simplified languages that we got now.  

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Well, a 100%.   Way stronger,  

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which is, I think, a nice bridge to go into everything I read down about the light side because Yeah. I have a lot   but first of all,   I wanna do an exercise together,   and it has to do with ancient languages.  

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Okay. If if you like.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Well Things that that really,   are   powerful to me personally. So I'm going to share my screen. Uh-huh. Yes. You're going to share it, right? Because I Yes. Yes.   You see the screen, right? Yeah.   So first, you said the Om mantra.   Om. You know?   The Om.   The meaning of Om, it's,   three letters and it's a trinity.   You have it in Christianity, but you also have it in   yeah. I recall it Hinduism now. So so it's Egypt to understand, but I it's it's actually Vedic culture, but let's call it Hinduism. Uh-huh.   You have the three powers of God,   creation,   sustaining,   and, destruction.  

Mhmm.   So yeah.   The 3,   forces of creation.   And here they explain it. You have the o.  

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Mhmm.   An r.  

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Make it. The a is   Akar,   represents   the vibration   that brings into manifestation   the creative universe. So, basically, it's,   changing energy   into   material,   manifested  

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things.  

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Right. The Earth,   our bodies,   this pen I'm holding, whatever.   Uh-huh.   So the r is for creation.   And you just mentioned earlier, manifestation, how important that is. Right.   Then you have   the, who, the   hookah,   which is   the vibration that preserves the creation. So the sustaining, the   preserving   what is created.   So,   the creation is Brahma in Vedic culture, the god Brahma.   The preserving   is,   Vishnu or   Krishna because Krishna   Krishna, they are the same person. It's just   inclinations   of the same person. Oh, wow. Of the same god, so to say. It's not not a person, it's a god. Uh-huh. But we are all gods. So   it's just a name for   this power where,   Brahma, it is   the the name for   the manifestation of creating.  



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Uh-huh.  

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And the m,   Makar,   is the destructive vibration.   Because,   did you know that   there are certain types of sounds that you may never play on a bridge?  

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Oh, yeah. Because of, well, clouds. If you play those instruments,  

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those,   vibrations can literally destroy a bridge.   Right. Like certain drums and whatever.  

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Right. Like marching,   people also.   Yes.   Soldiers   can't march on a bridge because of the vibration of the footsteps. It's like a drum.   It's gonna collapse.  

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Exactly.   So when it comes to energy and vibration   and the ozone sound,   the ozone is the creation,   the   preserving,   and the destruction.  

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Okay.  

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So it's one of the most important   mantras   in the world. Uh-huh.   And what I'd like us to do is just,   do the O mantra together.   Breathe from your   belly, not from your chest.   And do the whole as long as you can, and do it around 5 times. And then tell me what you are experiencing.  

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And should I pronounce it like Akam   or like? No, no, no. I will go first.  

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Okay. Then you will do it, and we do do it 5 times, so 10 times together. Okay. I will go first.   Just exercise.   So here we go.   Well?   You can, do it now?   I think it's hanging again, the, the internet.  

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Hanging again?  

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I didn't hear the sound.   Let me do it again and try it do all this as as long as possible. Okay. Okay.   Because it's all about the vibration.   Oh, yeah.   Just tell me, what is that vibration doing to your to your mind, to your body when you are going As relaxing.   Relaxing. Exactly.   When you are chanting this,   you aren't thinking at that moment. You are just  

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Right.  

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Did you notice that your mind is completely   still, completely calm? Right.   So to me, this is a really important sound because it's the sound of the creation of the universe, of our God's powers, God given powers. Uh-huh.   I say this is the most important   chant. Right. This chant, I mean, a mantra. It's not chanting, it's a mantra. Mhmm. Because it's a word you speak out.   Then there is   another mantra,   and it's this this one.   It's from Buddhism.  

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Okay.   Could you go back one slide, please? Like, with the Om?  

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Yes. Yes. Yes. I can go back to this.   Let me see where it was.   I'll look.   Let me see where I   accidentally closed it.  

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Okay. Okay. Because   it said how to pronounce it. Because the question is, we say you're in the western world,   Yes. I think you should pronounce, like,   So pronounce the letters aum.  

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I think, in my opinion, both. Both are good. Okay. Okay.   Mostly about the vibration.  

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Because I do that a lot when I'm sitting in my car, just like, oh.   You know. Especially when I close my mouth, you got a humming again.   And the humming is very good for your inner   peace   also.   Exactly.   Okay. But please continue because,  

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It's basically the vibration of the universe   that you Right.   That you   chant or or do a mantra with. Uh-huh. Then you have a Buddhist mantra where the ohm sound is, but also other sounds   from Sanskrit,   from Pali.   Correction. Because Sanskrit is from the Vedic culture, and after that, Sanskrit turned into the Pali navy witch.   And that's,   the whole Buddhist   scriptures.   Okay. Like, dalapada.   And that sounds something like this.  

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I think it should be, put it on play.   Oh, it is?  

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I did it on play. You don't hear it? No.   That's that's weird.   Maybe if I go to full screen.   Can you hear that?  

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Yes. But very badly.  

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Well, the sound is basically   And they keep repeating it,   of music.  

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Right. If you send me the links after the show,   I can put it in the show description so everyone can listen to it.  

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Yeah. So so there's another exercise you can do.   The own   this one from from,   Buddhism,   then there are   2,   songs from the Hare Krishna.   One is called Jayar Radha Madhavan,   and Radha was the wife of Krishna,   His his lover.   So it's basically a song about deep devotion and love.  

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Mhmm.  

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And the best part is,   here you've got the,   the lyrics,   but you can also put them into chat gpt and ask what they really mean, and they will explain it. Jive. They will explain it.   That is all about devotion, love, and and stuff like that. Everything that is light side.   You know?   A very important thing, you have,   religion and spirituality.   Religion is always about politics and control. It's about obeying,   obeying the religious systems.   When you go to spirituality,   it's always about growth,   freedom,   love, and devotion.   So there's a total different pathway than obeying.  

Oh,   yeah. And obeying   will never give you enlightenment. It will only enlighten others, never yourself.  

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Yeah. And obeys better.  

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In the mind of Agita, there is a really nice verse.   I hope I can find it really great. Mhmm. Ah, yes. This one.   Because Hinduism is a religion, right?  

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Yeah. Old way of life?  

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Yeah. Well, Vedic culture is way of life. Hinduism is a religion. Okay. 15 out of the Vedic cultures.   But the Bhagavad Gita, the most important book   Mhmm. Is is a conversation   between, God or the super soul   with   a normal soul, a normal human being. It's it's it's deeper conversation.   And in this book, God says   to men,   abandon   all varieties   of religion   and just surrender unto me.   And with me, he means your higher self,   the super soul,   because this book, talks a lot about,   the normal soul and the super soul. The the super soul, the higher consciousness we are all connected to. Right. So what he's basically saying, abandon all varieties   of religion and just surrender unto me. So   pray or do exercises   or meditate   purely unto me. Mhmm. I shall deliver you from all sinful reaction.  

Do not fear.   So he's basically saying,   every sin and reaction   to your sins will be dissolved instantly.   The moment,   focus on your higher self onto instead of religions.   Right. It's funny that a book that is used by religions literally says abandon all varieties of religion.  

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But it's fascinating too that a lot of books,   when you read really the books like the Bible said it too, don't   worship,   an idol and   the kingdom of God is within you.   The only thing is that a lot of people, and I do not want to offend someone or   anyone,   but a lot of religions   don't read that kind of stuff. They want to hold on with their belief system   to something that's been written.   Like,   you know, it's been standing here writing the scripture.   Yeah. But it's been written down by someone   who had an intention to write it down and to an intention for you to believe in something.   It's a control system.  



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And want to know the best parts about the prophetic, scriptures?   You know, the Zionists and   the Jewish beliefs, the Abrahamic religions,   they control,   Judaism.   They control Christianity   through the 1st testament   and they control the Islam.   Yeah. The whole prophet system. Right.   However, when it calls prophetic scriptures,   they weren't translated yet because it was from mouth to mouth.   So they could not control the bush.   And even better, not all Vedic scriptures are yet translated.   So   the   church and the Sardines don't have control   over what is written here. It's directly from,   the God Krishna,   literally   took men   to men to men to men to men,   you know, from Brahman, and Brahman is is another word for teacher, for guru. Right?  

Oh, it was from   God to Guru, Guru, Guru, Guru.   And the scientists could not intervene   because it wasn't written down.   So that is why in this book it says, let go of all religion.   Right. Or do religion and focus straight on to abandon all varieties of religion.   All varieties.   And, even though I have religious statues, for me, these aren't,   deities or whatever. Uh-huh. These are, to me, symbols to what they, stand for.   Then why not then?  

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But so the Bhagavad Gita says   abandon all religions.  

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All varieties  

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of religion. Yes. But how many   varieties of religions were there   when the Bagdavita was written?  

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Well, the ancient Mayan,   the religion, the Syrians, the,   whatever.   There will always be religions because people always want control over other people. Yeah. But I mean, Islam,  

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Christianity   wasn't there.   It's   more than 5000 years before that was.  

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I know. I know. But   a lot of questions in this book   are still related to the world we live in today.   Right. Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But the fun part is, we discussed the astral astral projection that in the astral world, time does not exist.  

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Mhmm. Right?  

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So what if   the higher consciousness   lives in the now,   lives in the past,   and lives in the future?   And because of that,   the higher consciousness consciousness   knew there gonna be more religions.   Right.   So the higher consciousness said   abandon all varieties of religion.   So that's,   we only know this world. We only know the world where time exists, where,   we are bound by gravity, we are bound by our physical body, we are bound by   whatever, but not in other worlds. Right.   But if something, an entity or a God or whatever from another world talks to us,   they know stuff we don't know.  

If you know what I mean.   Yeah.   And for example, I, had my first asshole projection when I was 12 in the church.   You experienced stuff there as well, but, a lot of people have never had such experiences.   Right. Talk about it, but they don't know.   I got to close the screen sharing for a moment because we can go to that later. Okay.  

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We got to,   fix your time a little bit or take care of the time.   Now, we're about 1 and a half hour in.   Yes, yes. Fascinating stuff.   Please continue, because I like to talk   about this stuff. Because it's very   interesting for a lot of people, because   there is, I think, also a spiritual awakening   in religions.   More and more people are not digging into religion or   use religion as a as a hold, and hold on.   And, I wanna know your point of view about that.  

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Well,   there are enough   stories within religions where,   certain individuals   became holy or whatever. So   I think you can,   spiritually   grow   when you are part of a religion, but   you have to get certain insights.   Mhmm.   If you just follow the book, you   are not a spiritual person, but you are a, a A reader. A scholar.   You are someone who just studies.   Well, read spirituality   is not about reading. It's about doing. It's about experiencing.   If you don't experience   and you only read,   you don't   you don't know anything. Just like the own mantra.   When you were doing it,   you finally felt the peace that comes out for you when you are doing it. Yeah. Yeah. However, if I I talk about I could have talked about the peace that comes out for you, but you would be like,   yeah, well, that could be, could not be. But if you are doing it yourself   Right. Doing certain,   spiritual exercises   that may come from religions, may not come from religions,   you can actually experience   enlightened moments.  

For example, during a Kembo session, you have a tingling feeling. Your face starts tingling. Your, the energy you feel. Yeah. Warmth.   Heart.   I also had similar   experiences during chanting, during mantras, during the old mantra, if you do it long enough. Yeah. You do it all, 30 minutes straight,   you start feeling tingling, you start feeling energy, you start feeling, happy even.  

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Breath work also helps very, very much with digging into your body.  

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Yes.  

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Like Wim Hof,   love that guy. Dutch guy, but the exercise when you do that,   especially when you do it a few times a week,   it's made such a tremendous,   it takes you to another level of your own body,   Especially when you do the 30 breaths,   and then stop breathing.   And not for like 10 seconds, but like a minute, 2 minutes.   I think the longest I did was 2 minute and 48 seconds.  

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That's- Yeah, your body is filled with oxygen.  

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Yeah, but you   feel, you feel first of all that,   your   spirit wants you to, you know, you got   to take some breath.   But now you got man, mind over matter, just like what, what the addictions that I'm going to beat.   I am beating right now.   No,   but no.   Like the little guy, little kid for the cookie, no, you get enough cookies. But I wanna no.   I'm, bah, bah, bah. No.   Then   you got this   serene   silence.   And then, you can   really relax your,   your body, your muscles, and all that stuff. And when you do that,   then before you know, what I like to do is to think   like, okay, now I'm going to get   up, going to sit on the bed.  

I'm going to take on my socks, take on my shoes,   or take on my trousers. Like a normal ritual that I normally do, but I'm   visualizing that.   So it's like I'm going into time   with something that I do normally. And before you know, my time as not breathing   is continuing   until you really start like, oh, now my,   how was it called? My   diaphragma   start to get crazy. Okay, hold on a little bit more, hold on a little bit more. I'm safe because I'm still there.   And then, eventually, you take one   big breath in,   hold it for another 15 seconds, and breathe out. And then the DMT is just, like,   floating into your body, like, crazy.  



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Yeah. And the, Wim Hof also did,   scientific exercises   with universities in the Netherlands.  

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I think he has the most bizarre   Guinness book of record,   the longest   underwater swim on the Antarctic, like, under an ice.   Yes.   And I think he froze his retina when he was doing that. So he couldn't see anything.   He was running a marathon in the desert without any water.  

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Yes.   He had some coffee,   he says. Fun coffee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a goddamn  

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fucking good coffee, I can tell you that. I think he climbed the,   not the, I don't know it was a,   I don't know it was a Himalaya or a K2, but he,   caught up one.   Sorry? On of the highest mountains. Yeah. One of the highest mountains, only a short.  

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A mountain is where people die halfway.   Yeah. Because people are still there. They die. Yeah. And get frozen, and they they just simply die, and he doesn't nearly make it.  

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And when you go to his camp in,   Poland,   there's also that you go,   so you wear shorts and a bikini,   and then you go in the middle of the winter,   like minus 10 degrees or stuff like that, you go, like, to the top.   But proving that   proves   how strong and how   powerful that we are as humans.   And I pointed out a few times in my,   podcast, but also on my TikTok,   you have a crown.   So we are the kings   of our kingdom, of our temple.   So we rule that temple, we rule that kingdom.   But you have to take your CPR, your commitments,   priorities,   and responsibilities   about that.  

And if you do,   oh boy.  

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Another thing we discussed is, letting go, of things in life.   Letting loose.   And the final part of Gita also has   beautiful verses about that as well.  

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You told me. I I wanna hear it. Please.  

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One thing is about,   sacrifices,   charity and badness.   You know, penalties,   you did something wrong and you wanna make it right. Mhmm.   Sacrifice   is is literally   giving something away   of yourself   and charity. Charity, we all know what charity is. Right.   So here, it's the first. Acts of sacrifice,   charity, and penance   are not to be given up,   but should be performed.   So   it's it's it's it's wise to do sacrifices,   charities, and balance.   Should be performed.   Indeed, sacrifice, charity, and balance   purify even the great souls.   So doing those acts   of sacrificing charity and penance   will purify your soul   of of,   corruption or whatever you wanna call it.  

Then there is a second part to it. All these activities   should be performed without any expectation   of result.   So we   should do them   just for the act itself and not expect something back. Right. Yeah. Right. Right. You will get stuff in return because you always do when you do the right things in life.   But   it's important that you do the acts for the act itself and not for the result. So all these activities should not be performed without any expectation of result.   They should be performed as a matter of duty.   Oh, son of Prita, that's that's person he's talking to Mhmm. That is my final opinion.  

So we should do it out of a certain duty, out of and the duty is the duty of doing the act itself.  

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Right.  

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So that's really powerful powerful about sacrificing stuff and and giving away the things.   There is   these are also really powerful verses.   One who is free from illusion,   false prestige,   and false association,   who understands the eternal, who is done with material lust,   and is freed from the duality of happiness and distress,   so the duality inside Uh-huh. And who knows how to surrender unto the unto the supreme person,   attains to that eternal kingdom.   So one who is free from the illusions, false, prestigious, you know.   Well, oh, I got this car. I got this. I guess, I got that. All the material stuff.  

1 who is, from false association,   understands the eternal, who   is done with material lust and is freed from the duality.   You know,   when I explained to you that I want balance in my line between light and dark Uh-huh. Uh-huh. In myself,   This this first literally says,   get rid of the duality.   Or, be free from duality, not get rid, but be free from.   And this is from the Bhagavad Gita? This is all Bhagavad Gita first.   Wow. Then there is another one about the super soul, the higher consciousness,   you know, the the the the godhead, the god being,   you yourself being a god.  

One who sees the super soul   accompanying   the individual soul in all bodies   and who understand that neither the soul nor the super soul is ever destroyed   actually sees.   The result in a supersawl is eternal.   So one who sees a supersawl   accompanying the individual soul in all bodies.   So in into everything, not only bodies of of people, but  

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everything. Everything. Yes. Everything that's alive has a soul that makes them survive.  

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Yes. You see it interesting, even into animals, even into Everything.   Everything that's there that's  

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not been created by men,   like   the stuff that I'm seeing here around is all   atoms, but   that stuff.   Yes. But every flora and fauna   has the same divine   spirit,   soul   to be there and to survive.  

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And there is a first after that first I just said.   One who sees the super soul in every living being   at equal everywhere.   So we don't only see it in every being, but it's equal into every being. Right.   Every person is in that way equal when it comes to the super soul.   Does not degrade himself by his mind.   Because,   there are pictures in this book, the super soul is always in your heart.   Uh-huh. But most of us live in inside our mind.   So one who sees a super soul in every living being, in every heart, there's meaning,   and equal everywhere does not degrade   himself by his mind.  

Thus he approaches the transcendental   destination,   being transcendent, being into a higher   heaven,   into a higher   So it's really important every day you see someone or see a dog or a plant or tree or whatever,   try to see the super soul inside of it,   which also lives inside of you. As Optimus Prime followed the transformers always would say, till all are won.   You know? Right. That's that's   out of the transformers, till all are won is the most beautiful saying there is because he   saw that everything had a supersaw and everything   should be Wadden.  



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It's the,   what what was the   the quote that he did? He was about the   the longest quote about wars and stuff like that.   Yeah, one shall stand, one shall fall.   Exactly.   Right?   Between the 4th with with the with the,   Peter Cullen,   one shall stand   and one shall fall.  

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Peter Cullen is a fucking hero. His voice is just perfect.   Yeah. I love that.   Here's another one of letting go at first that I weirdly thought because you are letting go of smoking,   alcohol,   your motorcycle,   whatever.   Yes.   Alright.   If one offers me   with love and devotion,   a leaf, a flower, fruit, or water, I will accept it.   So whatever you offer, as long as you do it with love and devotion,   your higher self will accept the offer.   So it's not about the offer itself, about the leaf, the the fruit, the bike.   It's about   the most important basic emotion, love   and devotion. Devotion is   is   is also a deep version of love, you know, when you devote yourself to relationship.  

So if you make a sacrifice,   whatever it is,   if it's out of devotion and love, it's always accepted.   So that's also a really beautiful verse.   It is.   And you can sacrifice it by putting it on an altar, or you can just   throw away your cigarettes.   Sacrifices can be done  

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in all sorts In many ways. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.  

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So yeah.   And here's another one about reincarnation   because the soul is eternal. We keep coming back to this Earth. Mhmm.   According to the Vedas,   there are 2 ways of passing from this world,   you know, using your body.   1 is in light   and one in darkness,   so the light path or the dark path.   When one passes in light,   he does not come back   in this reality after again.   Okay. But when he passes in darkness, he returns   because he has more lessons to learn.   So if you pass away   in light,   be enlightened.   Uh-huh. Uh-huh. You don't have to return.   However,   in the Buddha   scriptures,   you can choose to stay here.  

It's it's always a choice. It's always free Right. Free will.   But you don't have to come back.  

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So   could that mean that people that are   going to an enlightening   path now   had already been in the dark   path   before   in their, well, let's say in their past lives?  

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Well, if you,   have to believe this first,   they still,   lingered into some dark habits.   Like I said, the curse is from my father, smoking, drinking,   addiction.  

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Yeah. I got a I got a lot of them too. Horns.  

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Honest.   My father's curses, when he died, I beat all the curses he gave me. And I kept all the good he gave me, you know, in my DNA.   When it comes to my mother, it's it's a different story because of of how she treated me being a narcissist.   I have certain narcissists,   behaviors   patterns as well.   But to me, they are coping patterns   because of traumatic traumatic   experiences and whatever. I still gotta beat those,   types of darkness inside of me. Right.  

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And a little bit narcissistic   is not too bad, you know.   Like a little bit egocentric   isn't that bad. But if it goes   to the off balance,   then I think it's it's, it could be a problem for you or society or the people that you're surrounded with,   friends and family.  

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Yeah. Well, to me, it's something, my mother created me   through birth   and to, how she not raised Genetics,   right? Not raised me, genetics, and how she not raised me   because she didn't.   But   I can cope with it, deal with it, and I got to have my own   ways how to   not become like her.   Because,   there is a reason I don't like her. There's a reason I don't   call her my mother. I call her by her first name because to me, she is just a person with a name that   just happened to put me on this earth, but she ate   Right.   She doesn't,   when it comes to respect   and love, I think,   people have to deserve respect and love.  

If if you   never gave birth   from birth to someone,   you don't,   deserve to be called a mother. Mhmm. That's that's just my, personal belief.   Right. Because you have to be a mother to be called a mother.   Some people   have mother issues. I am the mother issue kind of person.   And some people have a really warm   home, and they don't have any issues whatsoever.   However, the fact my father and my mother both gave me certain curses in life   also gave me certain opportunities   and experiences. So in that part, I got to thank her, but.  

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Right. Yeah.   It's all about duality, right? So   maybe it's a bad   way to raise your kids, but they're going to be,   first of all, faster,   responsible for their lives, to take care of their own lives. Probably, you could cook with 11 or 12 years old, like a normal meal, or wash your clothes and stuff like that. So   there's a lot of duality. Like, okay, I didn't get that, but I got that.   And a lot   of people that are,   been raised with all the love, and all the gifts, and stuff like that,   They're getting older, and they   rely on that kind of love or that kind of support.  

But the world isn't  

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Right. Got self love from inside, from   Exactly.   And going to self love   is another great verse.   I am in everyone's heart   as the super soul.   And where does love come from? Not not from our mind.   Comes from the heart. Yeah. Though I am in everyone's heart as a super soul. The the   the Krishna consciousness,   Christ consciousness,   god consciousness. Give it a name. It doesn't matter.   Divine   So, yeah, I am   whatever you would want to call it, I am in everyone's heart as a super soul.   As soon as one desires to worship   the demigods,   the the the the other gods like, Shefa,   what is Ranuman,   the Ape god,   Ganesh, the the the elephant god. Roref.  

As soon as one desires to worship the demigods,   I make his faith steady   so that he can vote,   can devote himself   to some particular deity.   So he says, if you want to, worship them, my god,   a god   below   the the the the ultimate source Mhmm.   I make his faith steady.   So if you want to have that faith, he will help you to have that faith in just that one deity.   And he also says in,   another verse,   endowed with such a faith,   he seeks favors   of particular demigods.   Particular favor, sir.   Alex obtains his desires.   But in actuality,   these benefits are bestowed by me alone.  

So you are,   worshiping,   a Buddha or a Shiva or whatever,   But whatever   is is given by   that god demigod   is basically given by the super soul, which is already inside of you.   So you are worshiping something outside,   but the super soul inside you is actually giving you what you desire.   Exactly. Wow. So even if you, worship   other gods or other deities, whatever,   the super soul will still give you that   manifestation.   So it doesn't matter who you worship. Eventually, it comes from the same source, the super soul.  

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It's really funny because,   I saw Bashar, the the the one that,   channeled. I think his real name is,   shit, what was his name?   It's a guy who's channeling as Bashar,   right? Yeah. And   Bashar said   about all the stuff that we learn like cannabis or alcohol,   it's not too bad to   experience that. But you as a human   can get that feeling through   knowing what that feeling is.   I don't know if I pronounced it okay. So if you're   gonna get drunk, you need alcohol normally to get drunk. But once you experience that feeling,   you can pretend to be   as it, and you can feel like it.  

Exactly. And that's   exactly what's been copy pasting right now, what you said. Like, okay, everything, even if it's a God that you're worshiping, you've got that already in you. You don't need to worship that, because it's inside of you to worship it from yourself.  

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And when it comes to plant medicine   and, mushrooms and whatever,   the power is not within the mushroom, it's just a chemical.   But the chemical in the mushroom activates something that is already inside of you.   And you can also activate it through, a chanting mantra meditation type. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.   Yeah. Sure. Okay.   Plant medicine is the fast way to go there. Because you take it and, 30 minutes later you are in a happy place, you know?  

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Yeah. But I do think also that it gives you a little bit more than what you could gain by yourself? I don't know, but I think.  

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Well, in my personal experience in the groups I was with, the Hare Krishna, but also the I AM Movement,   We had long prayer sessions of 3 hours and whatever, chanting sessions, prayer sessions.   After those 3 hours, you get the same experience and insights and whatever.   Because you are in such,   and sheltered state.  

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Right.   Yeah. Well, it's the same   it's the same as Ben saying with the with this spinning.   Yeah. No. Actually like the Dervish   religious day, right? You put the spinning.   After that, Rumi, for example, 1298   or something like that,   BC,   no,   or whatever.   But when,   he had some brilliant, brilliant phrases and quotes.   And, Ben also does a lot of spinning. And then, eventually, when he stops spinning, he stands still. He can just, like, be imbalanced without force. If I spin like 2 or 3 rounds, I'm   disorientated.   Yeah.   But if you do the right spinning, you don't.  

Autistic people, he showed me one,   a little kid that's autistic, that's spinning around   in the kitchen, and in the living room, just spinning around like crazy.   But it doesn't fall down, it's just totally balanced, it's really fascinating.  

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Well, and there are many, many exercises. It's not only that, walking outside the nature. Oh, yeah. Only that. Nothing with the, with the Meditative   state. Yeah.   Barefoot.  

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Do you want to touch base on a lot of more topics   or should we,   because we're now in the 2 hour market, Mark?  

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I'm going to go quickly through one last first that's really Yes.   Because the Bible of Adequate, everybody can read it   and read really important about this book. Don't read it from the front to back. Just open it. Solemnire, read a book. Okay. Cool. Because just like tenor's cards or whatever,   the first you need will come to you.   And here's one of,   the process you are in right now, the letting go of stuff, your motorcycle, whatever.   Here's the first.   A person who has given up all desires for sense,   gratification   Mhmm. Gratification of the senses,   lust and whatever.  

So, yeah, a person who has given up all desires for sense gratification,   who lives free from the free from desires,   who has given up all sense of,   proprietorship,   of owning stuff   and is   the fight of false ego,   he alone can attain real peace.   So someone who has,   given up all,   the sensational   desires   who has given up, this is my property, this is my property, this is my property, who has   let go of everything Right.   And who is devoid of the false ego,   he alone attained real peace.  

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Wow.  

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The the the part after that, that is the way of the spiritual   and godly life.   After pertain   which a man   is not to be wilded,   being so situated   even at the hour of death,   one can enter into the kingdom of God.   So when you let everything go, every desire,   then you go into your higher state.   Wow.   So yeah, the bug Vadgita,   do read it.   Yes. Really important.   That is really interesting.  

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I can go through a couple of other books real quick. Yeah. Yeah. Please do. We still got some time, but I just wanted   to point out what the time mark is. So know we can accelerate   or talk about some stuff that's going to be deeply and stuff like that. So that's, that's why I pointed out. When we go into,  

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Buddhism,   a person that   became a Buddhist monk, but was a samurai, a really famous samurai before that,   has written,   the book of the 5 Writings.   It's, it's a book about,   combat, but also about spiritual,   pathways. Mhmm. And that's the book, Miyamoto Musashi,   The Book of the Five Rings.   Okay.   There are also old Japanese black and white movies about Musashi's life. It's trilogy.   Three really long movies.  

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And did didn't he was, like,   94,   95 years old, stuff like that?  

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Well, he became really old.   But he started   when he was really young. He beat his first opponent   because as a samurai, he was a Roman, so he was, all on a jealousy,   other samurai.   And, in his life, he even came to a certain path,   a certain fight   where he really had to fight, like, 5 or 6 guys at the same time.   And   his belief system was always believe in yourself, in your,   super soul. Yes.   However, when he knew he was   going into an ambush because he was about to fight 1 person,   but he heard rumors that one person was was always   unfair in fights. He brought his gang with him. Right.  

So he,   he he felt like he lost the faith in himself, in in his higher self.   So he,   went to do what everybody in Japan would do back then. Go   climb above and go to certain deities, to certain statues, and go pray there. Uh-huh.   So on his way there, he was thinking, and, well, I I need some godly help from a deity or whatever.   And by the moment he was there,   he turned around.   He said, thank you,   but no thank you   because I lost the way of believing in myself.   And on his way there, where he wanted to,   pray to something else but himself.   So he turned around, went back, went to the fight   with, 2 swords in his stand.  

He killed all the motherfuckers.   Right.   And,   in his last fight,   as a samurai, it's always   you always have to carry your sword. Your sword is your knife. You know your katana.  

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Mhmm.  

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And he was,   about to fight   the strongest samurai in all of Japan.   He was a grand master in everything.   And do you wanna know what he took with it?   A wooden stick. He didn't even bring his sword.   But he did that for a reason. Two reasons.   1, everybody believed your sword is your life. So,   the other samurai was really pissed off and angry with him.   Well, you didn't take your sword and, and this and that. You, you didn't stick to the system we live in.   And by him being angry,   you get furious   and you get blinded   by fury. Yes. So that was one of the reasons he did that. The second reason was the stick was like 10 centimeters   longer   than the salt of his opponent, but he held it back. So the opponent didn't even know how long the stick was, and he wasn't even focused on the stick because he was ex expecting a sword, a a katana.  

Right. On Miyawatomuizashi,   gave one blow   to where the nose so the bar somewhere like that,   and he is supposed to guilt the motherfucker.   Wow. 1,   by turning turning him blind with fury, and secondly,   by using the illusion   of the size of his table.   And after that, he he gained all the goals he wanted, beat it everyone.   It it were different times. Killing someone back then was normal in in all 2 years. Yeah. Yeah. It's a way to survive. Right? It was the way of honor,   the way of, the samurai.   And after that he gave a monk,   a Buddhist monk, and he started learning Buddhism, started writing books. And   the 5 Rings is is one of his books. So   really   read it. 5 Rings of Musa, you can find it online.  



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I would like to know if there was a monk that went to   go rogue, like a ronin, like a samurai.   Like a completely different life. Like, okay, I'm a monk.   I'm now 20 years old, 30 years old, and now I'm so fucked up, I'm going to kill everyone.   So basically, the other way around. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That would I don't know if such a story is I don't know either that that's what I'm trying to find out.   That, that would be also a great story. But I love to see that. You're going to send me the links, right? Because I love this shit. I love this shit.  

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When it comes to Musashi, I also think of another great fighter.   He came from China to America to work in the movies,   Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee. Oh yeah. And Bruce Lee,   at the tournament,   he won the tournament.   He turned his back to run away, to walk away, not to walk away.   And the one who was defeated   did a certain dropkick on his back and broke up the back of Bruce Lee.   Doctors told him he could never walk again.   Right.   He didn't believe it. He said, I gonna   restore my body.   He had higher beliefs just like Wim Hofe whatever. Right. And he was in the hospital and he could do nothing. He could move his arms, but he could not walk. He could not,   he could only use his, or I think he could not even use his arms, by the way.  



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So he left his In a bed that was like,   attached to a bed. He couldn't move a muscle, only his his his his face.  

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Exactly. And he was,   talking to his wife to write this book, The Tao of Cheet Kune Do.   And this is everything he written about   this life to art, but also about spiritual, stuff like,   be like water. It's a really,   really famous,   quote of Finn.   Oh, yeah. The Thao of Cheekindow is what he written when he could not fight.   Wow. Was paralyzed   and,   yeah.   He he he he quoted all his stock and written with tau.   So all of them He he  

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had a tremendous,   interest in in animals,   how they fought and what their,   systems were. Right?  

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Yeah. Like all the Chinese.   Most Chinese   martial arts are based on animals.  

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Right. Like the monkey and and the  

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Tiger claws, the   the the snake.   For example, snake move is you have,   your hands like this. Right. And you reach someone underneath the chin with this,   like a whip.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really, soft arm and you   really hit heart all the chin below it. That's tough. And,   and that way you instantly   won the fuck out and you won't expect it because it's   not all people don't anticipate like   this. This model is really hot. And if you rip off the eyes in the chin  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Tai Chi is also all about I was thinking about that.  

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Oh, internet is unstable again. Come on. What the hell is going on?   Let me see if I gotta check very fast.   Please continue   Yeah. About my   stable internet or not, because I think it's,   the data.  

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Or is it? But anyways, Tao of Jeet Kune Do, read it. It's both a spiritual book and a book about fighting.  

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Uh-huh.  

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Other books,   just like you, I had   inflamed,   in the belly. It was inflamed. I had,   Inflamed intestines?   Yes. I had inflammation there. Right.   And they wanted to give me prednisol,   the medicine   Uh-huh.   To to subdue the inflammation.   Mhmm.   And back then, and I still do, I got a Muslim,   friend.   He is a a real Muslim, a good Muslim. He says, a Muslim should never force his religion onto others.  

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Right. Or blow up in public.   He should always  

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give,   you know?   Be there for their neighbors.   Be a good person to others. Even if they have a total different religion whatsoever.  

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Be kind to each other. Just be kind to each other. That's But Lee gave me a book and  

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I,   I already showed it in the past. Right.   Never be sick again. So I read this book. I followed all the advices in this book   and my information   went,   within   2 weeks time   to half the,   the scores information. Right. Yeah.   Blood and   feces,   that I gave to the to the laboratory.  

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As eventually, it was fully gone.   The whole day And did you   sorry,   to interrupt. Did did you read it like, okay, I'm gonna find out,   inflammation   of my intestines,   and it gives you the   path to do? Or you just were reading it,   or like, okay, I'm going to implement some stuff from this book   into my life.  

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Well, this book is is is a pathway. So it's you literally gather read this from,   back.   And the pathway is there's only one disease,   and the disease is called cellular   malfunction.   Oh, yes. Of your cells.   And there are two causes. There is,   toxicity.   Uh-huh.   Toxins in our foods, in the water, in whatever. Yeah. There is deficiency,   not enough nutrition.   And he   and he made 6 pathways.   One pathway is,   nutrition.  

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Uh-huh.  

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Because a lot of food we have today don't have the nutrition,   fruit and vegetables had,   before we had,   GMO food and, and, and,   whatever. Right. You know, food really has no lower,   nutritions.   No no minerals, no nothing. So I asked them, manually through,   multivitamins   and whatever.  

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Right. Plus there are The food is filling. It's not,   feeding.  

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Exactly.   But there are also a lot of multivitamins   that are, chemical and toxic. So you really got to do your own work. And this book will tell you what sort of vitamins   are the right ones and which one are the   not so good ones. Vitamins, miracle, whatever.   So you have the nutrition pathway,   the toxins pathway.   Get rid of all toxins in your life, and it's not only food, it's also water, it's shampoo, it's soap, it is,   laundry.   It is,   even furniture.   IKEA furniture   has, wound chips and a lot of toxic,   glue in it.   Ikea furniture do have a certain smell, do you know? Mhmm. It always smell kinda like the you smell with the glue. Yeah. Yeah. You breathe in the toxins of it. So Ikea is really on the help.  

But this book will explain it all.   Then there is,   psychological   pathway,   the physical pathway,   the genetic pathway,   that would take for your parents, and the medical pathway,   where you do need medical health,   where you break your arm, you don't put   an other way finger on it. You go to hospital where you live in the states. Right? Right. Right. Right. Yeah.   So this book really gives you,   it says health is a choice. Learn how to choose it. There's only one disease. So this is really important   when it comes to,   psychological health. That's the hardest health to control.  

Mhmm.   Because,   toxins,   Trauma.   Trauma. Trauma. Yeah. Trauma is really hard. But when it comes to toxins, to physical   stuff, you cannot do this. You can eat healthy. You can move slower.   But psychological stuff,   I even have a treatment as a psychologist   at this moment. It's almost done, but sometimes you gotta ask for help. Oh, yeah. Sure. And when when it comes to psychology,   there are 2 interesting books. It's the,   letters between the, letters between the Freud and Carl Jung. Oh.   They,   translated the letters and put it in a book. The letters they wrote to each other   because  

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It wasn't the cocaine that they did.  

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Freud was a cocaine addict, and he was really more of an academic kind of person. Yeah. But more of a spiritual kind of person. Yeah. But they wrote letters, and they didn't always agree with each other because Carl Jung had the archetypes, like, for example, the the the the dark side, the shadow archetype, and the,   whatever.   Right. But those letters are really interesting to read between 2 intellectuals, but a spiritual and an academic intellectual, and how they   righteous   and they even get angry at each other, Ed. So the more oh, that's cruel.   And,   the psychology of Carl Jung, Basically,   the small pockets,   and most psychology today,   especially the holistic one where you look at the cause and not at the symptoms   Mhmm. It's all Carl Jung's   psychology. Right. More about, oh, I feel best, I take cocaine, and I feel good again. Yeah. Yeah. No. You want I think you point out, like, every  

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every behavior has a   reason.   Yeah.   And it does.   It does. But you have to figure out what it is.  

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Another great book, and there's also a YouTube video about it, is The Last Lecture.   Okay.   It's Pausch. Pausch University   by,   Randy Pausch.   German or Austrian?   He had   I don't know exactly where he's from.   It's from   Carnegie   Mellon   University.   But he did everything he wanted to do in his life, got a great wife, great kids,   and then he got the diagnosis of cancer.   And he was about to die. And he wanted to give one more lecture,   chasing your dreams. And how important it is,   life can be over in an instant. And   gave a really good speech,   a good lecture about chasing your dreams. I can share it as well because this book is   is the speech,   the lecture written down, but you can actually watch it on YouTube. It's 1 hour and 15 minutes. Oh, wow.  

It will give you laughs. It will give you tears. It will give you,   you know, when someone is about to die, it's really, really painful, you know?   But it will also give you joy that there is always, always a moment to chase your dreams.   Right. You just gotta   remember it. And and that's   the the most important lecture.   Forget all the other lectures. This is the most important lecture you will ever get in your life. Right.   It's,   you know,   I always say,   you start living   the moment you know you are dying.   Oh, that's a good one. When you know that you are about to die,   then it will be tomorrow or they are so they really start living. People start working with this and whatever. Right. So don't wait for the moment you hear from a daughter that you start dying. No.  

Live that moment today.   Right. Say to tell you to yourself, I gotta die tomorrow,   maybe the day after,   maybe in the 80 years or something.   Mhmm. Whoever gives a fuck,   I don't live it.   So that's a really important book. And also another book I, showed in the other,   podcast as well is Conversations with God, Neil Donald Walsch.  

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Oh, I they I Yes, you did show that. Yes.  

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There's also an insight in who got this. There's also the same answer as in Bhagavad Gita, who got this inside of all that data, etcetera.   And yeah. Right.  

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I love this podcast, yours. But I got a question for you. Did we, on the last podcast, I can't recall, but did we   do the 12 questions,   that I had for you?  

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No, I don't think so.  

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Yeah. So I'm going to do that. And then we're going to close off today.   Wait, what did I do with my   screen?  

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And I will probably have to do the rest because I got got a lot more to show and tell. We're going to do a part 2 of the light side.   Yeah, sure.   Gonna be a long one.   Well, that's a really long one, but I've got   to   Right?   I want to go deeper into the chanting and the exercises there are and,   yes.  

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Okay. So,   but it was quite fascinating until now,   what you search for, and what   you brought up about religious, and stuff like that.   And   hopefully, you're going to enjoy also my   okay.   Okay.   I got a   problem with getting my   what the hell?   Oh, god.   This one then?   No?  

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Long live IT.  

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Yeah. When it's working, it's it's great.   But what is it? Strange. Yeah, no, somehow it says   it hadn't found it, but I know for sure   it should be here.   Yeah. There it is. Okay.   So,   but very fascinating and connecting the dots. And I think,   we need to do a part 2, because this was just an introduction into Delight.   Next time, we're going to point out more about it. And then it all comes together. Right?  

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Yes. Yes. I got lots of stuff written down.  

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Yeah. But it's   too much to do with a one podcast, or you have to raffle it around. But what I want to say to you is, you're going to love   the guests I'm going to have on the 30th   September. So within the, well, probably like week, you're going to be Todd   Cave. He was on Sam Trickles for, he was on   the Rat Pill Cartel podcast 2 times.   Very interesting,   point of view about religions and stuff like that too.   But for now, I want to ask you   some questions.   Juss, what's your definition of   God?  

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Well,   then I always think about what Optimus Prime to that, till all 1 that we are all   delighted and   we all got.   And   and I think what the Bhagavad Gita said about the super soul that's inside us. Mhmm. Be that god because   we all live for our own reality,   and we all have our own   version of God, our own experiences with God. You know? Right. With your higher self. So   even though my God   inside my heart is the same   as your God,  

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they aren't the same at the same time. If you know what I mean. Yeah. I love to say that also to people that say, oh my God. And I ask them always, who is your God?  

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Because my connection with God   is different than your connection.   Exactly. If You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. So it's all the same,   yet different at the same time. Mhmm. Say, as God is   the smallest particle   there is and the biggest object there is at the same time.   You know? It's it's left and right at the same time. It's,  

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It's there in duality always.  

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Yin and Yang. It's within us, but also without us. Mhmm.  

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Jos, what's the definition of the devil?  

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Devil?   Well, when it comes to what a brother, it's me, of course. But,   no. I think,   one, the devil is is something that's inside of us all.   Every human being has evil inside of him.   And I also think   another important thing of the devil and the dark side   as well is that we   it's something that can seduce us into certain behaviors,   addictions,   lust,   all the things we actually need to let go.   But it's also a teacher in that way because it's,   by giving us lust and pleasures and certain things, and we eventually find out later in life, in our life, if you find out that,   those sorts of things we do don't serve us and actually bringing us   more to a darker,   periods in our life.  

You can learn lessons from it. So it's, it's both a teacher. It's both the evil inside of man, but also,   desirous lust, stuff like that. So   and it's also a part of God. It's there for a reason.   Right. You know, if you   just like Yin and Yang, if you don't know dark,   you will never know what light is. And if you don't know light, you will never know what dark is. So we need both.   Mhmm. So to me, the devil,   the best word I can give it is is   a teacher,   A mirror,   even.   Because when you look at the mirror, you can see your own demons.   Oh, 100%   sure.  



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You always got to look into the mirror because,   if you can't look in the mirror   and you don't like the person, you have to change that one.  

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Exactly.   So, yeah, I think a teacher is the best word for it. Right. Because evil, etcetera, has all side effects   of the teaching process.  

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Mhmm.   Well, what's your interpretation or,   definition of value?  

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Value, that's that's   that's   first of all, value is something we give to a certain   object or person or to ourselves.   Mhmm. I think,   we have certain,   stages of value.   We have,   the stage of giving material things value,   things that   are now there, but can break down and eventually lose their value or money or whatever.   Or,   you can have higher levels of of value, the the the higher values.   For example,   see that the super soul, as Bhagavad Gita said, is in every one of us. Mhmm. It's a higher value. 1 percent.   Then you don't value people by what what they look like. They don't value them by   their actions.  

You don't value them by the personality, but you value them by the fact that they are   they have the super soul and the godly   powers in them as well. Mhmm. So I think that's the most important part when it comes to value. Value   things that are eternal and not the things that are,   that disappear eventually.   Right.   So money is nothing. It's a solution.  

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It's a it's a tool.   What's your definition of success?  

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Well, success is, to me, baby steps.   Everybody has certain goals in life   and a higher goal and a higher purpose, but to me, success   is every moment that,   you know, it's where you are on a certain path, you write down the path you wanna go. Right? Like,   that's the next podcast. I wanna discuss that as well. You have a certain path. It it it lies,   but you can't,   go to the end of that path all at once. It's it's sometimes 2 steps forward, and then you fall back one step. You always fall back. In in in psychology, it's that as well. You got a depression,   you finally cured it, and and you're happy again. And bam, something happens, a lot of trauma, and you you are backing your depression. Right. However, the second depression, you come out easier than the first one.  

Mhmm. It's always 2 steps forwards, 1 step back.   So to me, it's success is that one step   forward,   that is the step that stays because you take one forward, one back, but you take 2 forwards. So one step always stays. And those are the success parts in life.   Right. Right. Always baby steps.   Mhmm. Every success   is a little success. I don't believe in the big, great successes.  

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That's the that's the end goal. Right? That's the end game.  

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Well, the end game is not success, but,   Achieving it. Happiness,   I think. Right. It would be that to be truly,   one with everything.   I would become that Buddha or become that   enlightened person or that holy person or whatever you want to call it. Right.   But that's not success. That's   becoming transcendent.   Mhmm.   So to me, transcendent is the ultimate success, becoming transcendent.  

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Okay.   Juss, what's your favorite color?  

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Even though people say it's not the color, it's black.  

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Yeah. I was talking about snake with that. Shout out to snake turban hat anyways, because   I love this dude. Snake,   I I know it's a little bit late to pronounce your name,   but I love  

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you. Anyways,   when I was at, primary school,   kids taught me white and black orange colors. And I always said, well, black is my favorite color.   They said, no. It's not true. So I took a pencil,   a red pencil, and I put it on paper. Then I took the yellow pencil, put it over the red, and I put every color   on the same spot.   And eventually, the all the colors combined   Uh-huh. Made it look black.   Right.   Because I put all the colors  

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Yeah. And I think there's a there's a there's a stupid kind of   theory why it's not a color.   But I was talking to Snake with it, and Snake   can tell you exactly,   I lost my point of view when it said white or black aren't colors.   So Snake did a good job on that.   That's why we're in a tremendous group,   talking about this kind of subjects and stuff like that.   Yoast, what's your favorite,   music, kind of music?  

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This   really depends on my mood.   When I'm angry or frustrated,   I love metal music.   Solitary is when I'm in a meditative state,   but a little bit dark side. I love music like Tiamat,   you know? Yep.   I love classical music. I love,   even some Dutch music.  

[02:30:17] Unknown:

Depends on the mood. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So Lutzow.  

[02:30:22] Unknown:

My   vision   and hearing to music is very open. Okay. What I don't like is is most pop music because it's all,   to me, pop music is like,   fast food.  

[02:30:37] Unknown:

Yeah. Low, low frequent,  

[02:30:40] Unknown:

You feel yourself, but but it doesn't feed you. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And to me What's your  

[02:30:46] Unknown:

should always feed you.   What's your favorite   movie or series?  

[02:30:54] Unknown:

Also really depending on my mood, but   one of the series I watched lately   is 3 series,   The Fall of the House of Usher,   and Midnight Mass.   Oh. And Midnight Club. And they those were all 3 series from the same maker. And it always has a psychological  

[02:31:19] Unknown:

part of it, a spiritual part of it, and a really dark part to it.   Oh, I didn't knew that it was the same maker, but I love on Black Mass when she pronounced to him   what she thinks happens   when we die.   That's one of the best ways to describe it. In midnight mass. Yeah, in midnight mass. I think it was like one of the last episodes of stuff like that. It was when they were sitting on the couch, but   it's like long time ago when I saw it, like 5 years ago, 6 years ago, or something like that. But out of those, Midnight Mass is a masterpiece.   It's really cool.  



[02:32:00] Unknown:

It's about religion and it shows how religion controls   and indoctrinates.   It's about spirituality.   It's about life. It's about death. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   It's it's it's one of my favorites. And when it comes to movies, yeah, it can be all types of of movies, really.   To me, Star Wars, of course.   Because, the light and the dark side are really present there, and I love both sides.   Mhmm.   There is also some wisdom like, Yoda who says,   that there are only to lead   love and fear. And he says fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.  

[02:32:45] Unknown:

Right. I never saw well, well, I probably a long, long time ago, I saw 1 or 2   Star Wars. But   I never bought into that somehow.   But I think that they are really like big productions,   great,   stuff that you're going to see just like, wow.   But it's not my kind of pie, but that's okay, right? That's okay.   What's your favorite book, Yoast?  

[02:33:19] Unknown:

That's also really hard. I got so many favorite books, both light side, dark side, whatever.   But I think   when it comes to   knowledge, I would say the FEDDIC scriptures. Not only the Bhagavad Gita, but also the Mahabharata   and all the other ones.  

[02:33:38] Unknown:

And what was it called? The the Maharic?  

[02:33:41] Unknown:

The Mahabharata.   The Mahabharata.   You have the Mahabharata.   Maha means big in Sanskrit and Bharat means story. Yes. The big story   about all the events that happened like 5000, 10000 years ago.   Wow. And during those events in the Mahabharata,   the center of it is God talking to,   a warrior called Arjuna,   and that's the Bhagavad Gita.   It's it's the when God shows himself that he's God, and he shows that he's inside like the first said, I am inside of you. And Right. We are God.   Exactly.   So the Bhagavad Gita is the most important   core of it all, but the whole Mahabharata is like an epic story, really. Epic story.  

What's your first a movie about. It's a a a a a a the theme movie. So it's like a long   6 hour   story about the Mahabharat, everything that happened back then.   What's it called?   The La Barabaraas.  

[02:34:48] Unknown:

Oh, it's called the Marabaraas. I will send it all to you.   Okay.   What's your favorite,   booze or drink?  

[02:34:59] Unknown:

It's easily,   water or, tea. And,   I like that.  

[02:35:05] Unknown:

A lot of people are,   are on a different life path, but a lot of people saying   same questions, like,   like with God and with the devil, with the drinks.   Fascinating how that works, that it doesn't mean what kind of life path that you have, but   you got all these little things pointed out that are the same, even even a thought.   What's your favorite food?   Because they have to think about the time, because otherwise, you're going to get big trouble with my software.  

[02:35:39] Unknown:

Favorite food?   And   that's really hard depending on the mood. I have been a cook and   I love almost everything. Fish, meat,   vegetarian,   vegan foods,   fruit.   As long as it gives me a certain sensation   and   Even so cat?   Well, my favorite food is healthy food. Let's keep it to that. Okay.   And that's every type of kitchen.   Okay.   Arabic,   Dutch, French,  

[02:36:14] Unknown:

does matter. What what kind of, clothing you like to wear the most?  

[02:36:21] Unknown:

Cotton. Always cotton.   A normal basic t shirt, no text on it, black t shirt,   or black long sleeve,   basic jeans,   just basic.  

[02:36:34] Unknown:

Okay.   What's your favorite holiday destination?  

[02:36:40] Unknown:

Oh, that's, that's really, I think Switzerland.   Switzerland really,   took my heart. The nature there, the mountains, the,  

[02:36:50] Unknown:

Right. It's a beautiful country.   Last two questions. What's your favorite quote?  

[02:36:58] Unknown:

I think it's from master Yoda   from, Star Wars   do or do not. There is no try.  

[02:37:08] Unknown:

Deep on.   And what's your life's motto?  

[02:37:14] Unknown:

Same as, the quote, do or do not, there is no try.   Right. Right. You see, it's it's it's a really good,   you know the Das Chong? Beinhard Raag, oftwel, hegel malis?  

[02:37:27] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Of course. You almost hit,  

[02:37:31] Unknown:

but you missed totally.   Exuberable.   There's no try.   No. You either hit something or you don't hit something.   So, yeah, that's that's   that's my first quote, my favorite,  

[02:37:44] Unknown:

whatever. Yeah. What we're going to do, Joss, is we're going to set up a part 3.   We can discuss a little bit more about things that we talked about now. This is kind of an introduction into   the light.  

[02:37:59] Unknown:

Yeah, I still got my notebook with all the notes. I got all the links. And I will, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm sorry that,  

[02:38:07] Unknown:

maybe sometimes I have to dig into some topics or just say, okay, we've got to skip on because,   I got to be aware of the time because otherwise I can't upload it. Tomorrow I have another podcast. And then if I,   yeah, I'm going to have some troubles anyways. So No worries. Next spot's going to be,   as good as this one. Yeah. No, no props, no props. Thank you for hopping on. Thanks for your time, expertise,   and your energy, Yost.   I loved it.   And for all the listeners back home,   or in the car or at work, wherever you are on this beautiful plane planet, have a beautiful day, beautiful morning, or beautiful evening. And what random order would like it? Because this is organized productions, right? Thank you, Yoast. And thank you, fellow,   humans for listening to this episode.  

Bye.   Showed me light.   There's a plane in the ass.   Black as a night,   god showed me the light and it'll be tiny.   Dreams. He's a pain in the ass.   Black as a night,   god's showing light, and he'll be tight.