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Welcome to another episode of Disorganized Productions! I'm your host, Rob, and today we have a special guest, David Gordon Stanley, an author from the UK. David has written two books, 'The Olympic Fever' and 'The Key,' which are multilingual and designed to help readers learn new languages while enjoying a good story. David shares his journey from being a language specialist and teacher in Japan to becoming an author in his retirement. He talks about the importance of combining social, spiritual, and business elements in his lessons and how this approach has influenced his writing.

David also discusses his experiences with learning and teaching multiple languages, including French, Japanese, and Swedish. He emphasizes the value of understanding different cultures and how it enriches one's life. We delve into his creative process, the challenges of publishing multilingual books, and the joy of seeing his work appreciated by readers.

In this episode, we also touch on philosophical and spiritual topics, including the nature of God, the devil, and the importance of having a skeptical mind. David shares his thoughts on the modern-day slavery system, the role of spirituality in our lives, and the significance of connecting with nature.

Join us for an enlightening conversation that spans literature, language, spirituality, and philosophy. Whether you're interested in learning new languages, exploring different belief systems, or simply looking for inspiration, this episode has something for everyone.
 
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What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect for the law.  

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Well, I'm a walking middle finger   with love.   Welcome, fellow human, to the disorganized productions podcast.   The show that fuels your spirit,   ignites your potential,   and helps you become the best version of yourself.   I'm your host, Rob,   and each episode,   we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you,   tap into your limitless potential,   and conquer life's challenges.   There we are, ladies and gentlemen,   with another episode of Disorganized Productions, episode number 67   already.   Today's special guest, he's coming from the UK.   His name is   David Gordon Stanley, and he's an author of 2 books,   The Olympic Fever   and Vicky.  

Please, a warm welcome   for David.   Well, thank you.   David, welcome to this organized productions. Please,   introduce yourself to the audience.   Well, I I I'm a  

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I'm a guy who's coming up to retirement   and,   decided to   to   have something to do in my in my retirement.   And so, writing book,   seemed like a good idea.   Yes?   Right.   And because I'm   I'm considered   to be,   I'm like, oh, we boast about it. Well, I'm considered to be a language   specialist.   Yes?   That's what my boss used to sell me as. Well, when I was the teacher in the private sector, he'd tell, yeah, he's a language specialist. I used to think, oh, yeah. You know? Well, but that right? Yeah.   I was pretty good   at at as a teacher, but not all the time.   I had my   downward words.  

But I I was teaching in Pratt.   Well, I started in 99.90.   Yes.   And before that, yeah, before that, I was,   I was teaching in Japan.   Wow.   Yeah.   So that that's that's where I've started my career,   because I crashed there.   Let's it's called a crash.   I fell in love with a Japanese girl, and I crashed over there.   And then I was a   a new company chairman.   Yes. But that that sort of way Dan killed bass,   Mhmm.   Because,   I'd rather   I'd   rather,   I'd rather be involved with a love story   and a,   a spiritual   adventure.   Mhmm.   Yeah. Oh, oh, I totally agree with you. That's that's,   that's more interesting. Right?  

Yeah. Yeah. It's it's,   it's more nourishing for one's,   emotional and spiritual life.   Right.   Yeah. Having said that, I I became a business teacher.  

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So so you combined all the 3 of them?  

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In what way, what 3?   Business teaching and   social English spiritual English.   Right.   Yeah.   All of those 3. I   I I money because I I had the opportunity   to   construct my own   lessons for people,   and so I could always construct it   and have the 3 together.   Yes? As I said, there would be these 3 elements   all in the same lesson,   social, spiritual,   and business.   I don't   the idea my boss told me is you must you must   always   make sure that the person wants another lesson. Yes. Right. So in words, they want to pay for another lesson. Yeah. So so   I was sort of geared up to give them my best and   to do that you have to exhaust yourself.  

That's   me in a in a spiritual   in a spiritual way and an emotional way. You have to,   exhaust yourself   to feed the people with what they need.   Right.   At the tree level, in fact.   Yes?   And then later,   you know,   once once I I finished with   that and my first book was in projection   that was in 2018,   yes, once I finished with that,   I was able to create   a   a   universal   comprehension,   yes, which ran   this, the spiritual journey.   Yes.   It's all on YouTube.   Yeah?   And that sort of ran for 4 years and,   that that may continue,   shortly.   Yes?   But   that that was to get rid of the the business side   of teaching   and just stick to spiritual and social.  

Yeah. Right.   Which which,   the people who took the course by the interest in enough to continue.   So  

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And did you,   actually speak also Japanese?  

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Not a guy. How   Kawarita.  

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Oh, there's a just a little bit.   A little bit.   That was a good guess for me.  

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Scotiab. That that's a a little bit. Yes. Right.   So, yeah, I I just a little bit. I I surprised the woman,   because I I was lost.   And,   I've been studying   Japanese for about a year or so   and I surprised this woman by coming up to her and speaking to her in perfect Japanese,   imperfect simple Japanese   and she was shocked. She was blown off her her,   arms off her feet.   Yeah.   She was blown away by it, and and we became friends.   Yeah.   I'm just asking for for direction. You know? She said, wow.   Here I was speaking to a guy, and and you're speaking,   Japanese.  

But, actually, some of the the Japanese that I tried to speak to,   they'd say to me,   And I didn't speak French at that time. Yeah. Right.   And,   I mean, later, I I I became fluent.  

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But,   yeah.   How many languages do you speak, David?  

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That's a good question.   I would say just 2 really big,   which is French and English.   But for for   my degree, I had to study   Swedish.   Wow.   That was kind of difficult. Yeah.   Yeah. That I   I I I I,   I tour in Lidlma   writing.   I'm struck trying to,   you know, because it was all copying down writing   repetitive writing and writing writing, reading Swedish   to try and, you know,   get it into my mind, get it into my brain because, I mean,   such a   a different language.   Yeah? Oh, yeah.  

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Compared to all the others. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.  

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But I managed to, you know, I managed to get pass mark. So you could say that my poor Donald is Swedish.   Well, I   I I think I've spent 3 years in Germany.   So   I speak enough   German to,   to order a beer.   Yeah.   Yeah. So   I I had a small small vocabulary in German too,   but I've I've tried to to learn   a little bit of of different languages so that I've got a a big rate. So there might be 5 other languages   that I've known just a little bit old. Right.   And and that was necessary as well,   for my degree because we had to study   we we have to study 2 languages serious,   One language up to a very good level,   not Swedish,   and another private language is, you know,  

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bits and pieces.   So,   sorry to interrupt you. Is that   bilingual or is that trilingual?  

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Well, trilingual   or triangle   is prilanguage is a what?   So so so more   than that would be multi.   Yes.  

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Right. Because I got a big fascination for languages also.   I studied Spanish,   but I studied it and I left it alone in the corner. I never went to Spain, never talked language again,   but I know the basics. So   it will take some time before I'm going to get into   the flow of the language.   I speak 3 languages fluently,   and speak and write. So that will be English,   Dutch, and German.   And what really fascinates me always is the connection between the languages.   And I think that, especially when you study,   French,   English,   and then Swedish, there's a big connection between the language, between the words they use,   between the sound of the use.  

Can you talk a little bit more about that?  

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Yeah.   Well, Swedish was was like a mixture of many different languages,   French, German.   And it it was very, very   it was very interesting because you have to learn the culture as well and some of the mythology.   And so that part of it was good.   And I really enjoyed it, but, it was exhausting.   Yeah. Right.   Yeah. And and   all the language   sort of there's a little bit of every language in in any language.   Righty.   Yeah.   If you learn to count in in different languages.   I used to go to bed,   thinking, well, how many bounties could I count up to 10 in? Yeah. And then try it. I haven't done that. I must have it. So Right. If you can do that.  

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Yeah.   Because it's funny. When you go on a holiday,   then   most people, I think, from my perspective, most people would,   like you said, order a beer or order something   food or want to pay the bill,   pay the bill,   and stuff like that. Easy stuff. So,   but a lot of things are, especially when you're looking at Spanish,   Italian,   and   French,   they're very connected. So it's like the Roman,   the Roman languages. We are more up in the North with the Dutch.   Swedish and English is like the Anglo Saxish   languages.   So there's a   big,   a big understanding between the languages.  

And have you also studied about that? About how does it   that we speak English now all over the whole world, how it's connected to,   to Dutch and stuff like that?  

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Either way, because,   I mean, English is spoken in so many different countries.   It's like   it's like the professional language for for for business, really. Right. It's business language.   Yes.   I think that's what connects everybody.   It is having that business out. The business is very important.   It's   it's one of those things that is very useful in life   if you have some business skill,   which was   my business skills weren't that good, but but,   my dad was very good at business,   before the business class.   Right.   Well, you know, for for a good 15 years, he was really at   yeah? Right.  

Yeah. And and I tried my hand. It's And,   I had a a marginal success at   business. Like I've said, I I ended up in Japan,   and I would say,   chairman.   A new chairman   just just,   just instated as a stud as a chairman, and I fell in love with the Japanese girl, and that was the end of it.   Yeah. Let conquers all, I'm afraid. Right, right, right.  

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But it's really, interesting what you say, because when you talk business, it's not only the language, it's also about your posture.   It's about listening.   There are a lot of things combined   that make,   a businessman very successful. Don't you agree?   Totally.  

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There's a whole   the the social   side of business is very important.   Yeah? Exactly. I mean, you you could you could never go into a a Japanese   business deal   and just, you know, speak business straight away.   I I I'm,   my   my big success   when I was at a chain was   I got the first 1,000,000   yen contract,   which was quite good.   Mhmm.   I knew the guy very well, and that's the only reason I I got the contract.   So,   unfortunately, the contract fell through.   That's a moment.   Yeah.   Yeah. More more successful in in the in the spiritual world than the United World.  

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Right. Yeah. What do you mean with the spiritual world? Like, the the connection between   the the people,  

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that adds well, that adds well.   But spiritual world,   that can be,   the spiritual world, the connection to the nature.   Yes? Mhmm. That is that sort of thing,   yeah,   which is very important,   because it's refreshing   to connect to nature   and be able to flush out all stress   of the of of the day.   Yes? If you can flush out   that stress every day, then you stand a chance of getting through life without too much difficulty.   Yes?   100%.   100%.  

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It's something that,   that connects us all. And   sometimes we forget that language.   The language of the birds and the sizzling of the trees,   the leaves at the tree when it's gonna get windy,   or when the wind blows through,   through a meadow or whatever.   These are sounds,   when nature talks to us, in a way.   Even when it's   saying nothing, then you have to be very careful, because probably that's the calm before the storm, right? So nature,   communicates with us in a lot of ways.  

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Yeah. If if you're on the frequency of nature,   then   then   animals and everything   will respond to you.   For instance   for instance, there was a man who was sat on a bench   and,   there were pigeons all around him. And every time he'd stand up,   the pigeons would fly away.   Yeah. And because they they felt his sort of radiation   and and and,   you know, they were scared, so they'd just fly away. Right.   But,   I saw this, and I thought it was quite quite interesting   that each stand up or go to stand up, you know, past stand up, and they go far away.   So I'd walk past them and and all the pigeons, and and they go, you know, bashing Kong on on the floor, and I walk past.  

So   that was that was like,   he he was so   amazed at this. Why are both pigeons and Brian thought that?  

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Right. Right. Yeah.   And is it the inner   communication that you have with nature? Or is it the frequency   that you,   that you that you   radiate?  

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Yeah, it's all about it. It's spiritual,   it's, a connection with the creator   and   everything   all the way down, all the way down to   the,   the how should we cook it?   The to to our. How about  

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that? Right. Right.   And it's very nice because we we were   we were talking about languages.   And you,   wrote 2 books,   and they are multilingual.   Right? So people can read them books.   I think one is for,   like 3 year old until 18.   It's called the,   Olympic fever.   Exactly. And the other one is more for adolescents, right, for,   the key.   Well,   the key, this one,   this   one's   in  

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in in 5   languages.   So   we're multilingual.   But both of them invite you to to recopy the text into your own language   and put that in the book or create your own text   that goes with the picture   that you can find the book.   Yes. So,   there's that spider of it.   Yes.   Just a quick   quick look at the nail.   Yeah. Here we go.   This is back and white because that is a crown.  

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Yeah? Right. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah.  

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But it's it's in English, and it's in French.   Uh-huh. And then there's a space   below it   to to write your own text   or get a sticker made   and   and put a sticker in there all professionally and everything.   And, I mean, for for   an adult to do that for a parent to do that with their child,   you know, it's an enjoyable pastime,   and it's,   it's learning another language.   Right.  

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Especially nowadays where where where children are   more aware of other languages than, like, say, 20 years ago.   Well, for example,   when I grow up,   or grew up,   our   TV stations were just like the the the original language,   but it was translated with subtitles in our own language in Dutch.   So we learned quite a lot from,   foreign   television shows like English or German,   especially when you we cross border, like here, 10 minutes from Germany, you you learn a lot of German.   Nowadays,   children,   they grew up with a with a with a telephone, or with a tablet, or whatever,   and it's all in English, just like you said. It's like a business   language. And probably they know more English, or know what it means   than their parents,   a lot of times.  



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Right. Well, let let me mention   the person   who who helped me a little bit with with this book.   With this book mainly. But,   she she,   there there was a book there and she took this book into the book there in France, yeah, in Paris.   Uh-huh.   And, she created a theater.   Yeah. A theater with music   instruments   and so the children could actually act out the story.   You know? And it it was their chance to,   it was   it was like the best introduction you can get to.   Yeah.   You can actually act out and you can be part of it and it's it becomes live.   Yes.  

So that would that was extraordinary.   Now, like I say,   that woman,   I'll make sure her name, Lorai   Surdu.   Yes.   She's actually Romanian,   but,   she she was the one who who who   can speak all these languages,   really, because,   she she was on the same   master's course that I was on for languages and research.   Yes?   We weren't in the same year. She'd been to the year below   me, but, we got to know each other.   And, she she was,   who was,   the one, you could say,   that   really,   push me to to to get this book,   to be better and,   on the market. Yeah? She's probably must do this. She must do this. Yes? But she's the one who speaks.   She speaks, I believe, about 10 languages fluidly, and she writes   yeah? Wow. So so so she is amazing.  

Yeah?   Her her name is is is here   on the book.   8 the trajectory of Lorai Sodu.   That's right. She yeah. She's American.   And her daughter,   she got hold of the book and she loved it.   You know, the, Olympic Krieger.   So   that was really positive,   stands for  

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her. Right, and you also did the drawings by yourself, right, with the acorail?  

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That's another story.   As you can see, it's fully illustrated, and an insight fully explains it. Right?   Now this new book, I've I've actually,   I've actually developed different,   designs   from the original design. But you see, this the story originally this story only be there.   I was too busy I was too busy   studying   and,   I was   I created   the story.   I wrote the story because I knew that I would have to,   write things,   for children   it for my exam.   Yes? And so I thought,   you know, pre studies,   putting my language degree.   I I,   I   I wrote this story,   and then this guy comes up to me that I know and he's a teacher as well,   and he says to me,   he says   he says, David, I'm learning English.  

Yes.   And my professor   has given me a pass that I found impossible,   and he looks so sad.   Yeah.   He said he's given me an impossible pass.   He's told us all to write a very story.   Very story. And I've got no imagination.   And I said, well,   what you can do   is you can use my story.   Yeah. Right.   And and you you you take   take my story and put that one in there   and and see how that goes.   Now,   all of the stories that this professor   gathered together,   they all went into a competition.   And,   and my story won   at first prize,   and first prize was to get it illustrated   free and   get it printed as as a as a book.  

Right.   So that was a first prize, and I think we've got 7 copies of the book. The very first   model of the book.   Yes, we could,   it was it was brilliant.   The the young lady, the young lady,   the artist was   the professor's daughter.   Yes? And so in a way they were working together,   writing,   they they were looking at the story, finding the best one, and she she was prepping practicing her skills in art,   to create the design.   So   so she she created all the design,   which are very beautiful.   And,   I took the same design   and   created something else, you know, to make   it make it bigger when when I I   I rewrote   the story.  

Right?   I rewrote some little bits of it. I needed more pictures and I so so so I created more picture.   All the basic pictures are there in the book.   Yeah.  

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How long did you take to,   or how long did you took   to   make one book?  

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Well,   the provisional were very quick, actually.   It took about,   2 hours.   What?  

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Well, it wasn't chat gpt. Right? Come on.   Well, well, I had all the PDFs.  

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Oh, I'm all PDF.   Yes.   And and because,   because   to create a book,   all you needed to do with Nulu   was to upload,   PDF.   Right?   Yeah. It was very simple. Now I had a lot of help with the computer   side from,   another student   in in the,   in the,   what they call it, in the student's   bar, in the student's house. Right.   And,   he he he just uploaded them big boy, and it took about 2 hours to do it. What, probably less than that. Yeah? And that was the first book. And,   but from there, from there, I then went professional   and got it done professionally.   And   that took a bit longer.  

That took,   about 3 years   to get it all done. Yeah?  

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Like lobbying to to,  

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to companies that that gonna   sell the book, all that stuff?   Well, the thing was to to get the the   the spacing correct   and the designs correct   all on the same page.   And and that's what we took so long.   Wow.   So   and and then I really did it once again.   Yes. And   it it really took,   a bit longer   to to come up with this copy, which is, like, the final copy.   Yeah. This this is, like,   the,   the masterpiece,   if you like.   Right. Right. Yeah. This this one took quite a while,   and then this one was   well, maybe   this one perhaps   again, it took   years to to get because   it putting putting the   photos   and the,   all the different elements. Yeah. Because you you got a jabber with with,   with 12 languages.  

Twelve lang Oh,  

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yes. I I   I see the the challenge there. Because when I'm working on my website, which is in 3 languages,   that's a pain in the butt.   And, of course, I can,   translate it myself. But the spaces, just like you said, the spaces is different because   some languages you only need like, 10 words for the same phrase.   And with the other language, you need more words or longer words,   and it screws up your space.   Yeah. And I'm working on a book also. It's about my,   it's about my life. And I was wondering to put some pictures in it, but now you scare me a little bit because   it's gonna take longer to put it out   because of the space of all   the pictures and how it eventually, you have to skip everything. Right? So if you have   on page 12,   an illustration,  

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everything will   move forward   to to make that happen. Right?   Yeah. It's it's,   it can be complex, but,   there there is a faster way of doing   and   you just have to work out a system   to get it all   together,   as fast as possible. Yeah? Right.   But it's it's it's enjoyable.   Yeah. It's it really is enjoyable   creating something and then seeing it in your house. Right. And then when peep when when it's in the habit of other people   and they like it, then,   hey, that's really cool.   Yes.   Did did you always want to be an author?  

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I don't know. I I I started writing poems when when I was, like,   21.   But you met this, this this Japanese girl probably to to conquer her heart. Right?  

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I   I met the Japanese girl when I was about 30 years old.  

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Yeah? Okay. You wrote a lot of poems before that. Right? Yeah. Oh, yeah.  

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Poet at heart.   Yes. I used to love writing poetry.   I I I wrote a book   of poetry, a little book,   but, I never had it public.   And then   one day,   my,   the the the man who   my   my mother got remarried.   Yes?   And,   the guy, he thought he knew me very well.   And he said he said to me   he said to me, you'll never write a book. That's what he said to me.   And I I was I've kind of   I I I sort of took that on the chin.   Right. Yeah. Yeah. I walked away, and I I got   a a wrist a a packet of razor paper.   You know?   And so each each of the razor paper was a page, and I stuck it together, and I made a quick look for him. Yeah? I came back to him, and I said, well, there's my quick look.  

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Proved them wrong.   I love that. I love that.   And   it's something, can you tell us something about,   what the books are about? Like The Key and the Olympic Fever?   Yeah.   Now   let's start with   Olympic fever.  

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Now it's it's   a bilingual   let's say bilingual   written in 2 languages,   but it's a sexy   trilingual   because   you can you can put another language in there. Right.   Like,   it's bilingual.   But,   it's it's about   animals   on a farm.   And   this this was written in   2012   when the Olympics was on. Uh-huh.   And at   the I was watching this at the, I joined the builder   to the Olympics.   Yeah?   And,   so on this farm, you know, with the pond and everything,   there's   there's,   some animal, and then if you decide to create that old   Olympic race.   Yes?   And this Olympic race involve   Barry as well.  

Yes?   So,   and the story itself's got a moral   side to it, you know, because we're very working together   in harmony.   And so it's that side of it as well. And it's the completion of this   this this race   and, of course, winning medals.  

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Yes. Of course.  

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So   so it it is the race itself and interacting   between   between the the,   the characters,   in the story.   And that's,   I mean, it's it's very good for young children, but it's,   it's also very good for anyone who wants to to to learn the language.   Right.   The   first book I sold was to this lady   and then she gave her her son was just about to pay these exams   in French.   Yeah?   And so,   she,   his mother came in in in the block, I mean, 16.   That's,   and   she said, well, that that   well, I think I suggested it because she told me she told me he was,   taking his exam.  

And I said, well, this this book will help him. And so he got hold of the book and he looked at it and went through it and said, yeah, that's brilliant for for revision.   Yeah? Right. Video.   So   so, you know, really,   it's for all ages. If you want to learn another   language, it's an ideal way to to go to the in English or French, and you can add your own language.   Yeah? Mhmm. I know, Arbonne.   And the most important thing about   learning a language   is is getting over the first 1,000 words.   Yeah? If you can get 1 thousand words,   if you can use 1 thousand words, then   you that you shall you will begin to feel strong   enough to go to the next stage.  

Rise.   And this I I mean, this is I wouldn't suggest there were 1,000 words,   which will would help any child   with another language.   So it's very useful like that. Now when I was teaching,   I was teaching children in Japan,   yeah,   I would have loved I mean, even if he ever before even for people,   my my business people, this book would have been excellent  

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because the way I teach,   yeah, if I had this book for them,   then,   that would have been great. They could look at that and we could talk about   all the different characters and everything and, and,   perhaps sell the,   the, the character of something.   Right? Yeah. Come up with some business Spanish for the for the animal.   Right. But I love that the the way you connect all these things together. Like the spiritual thing, like the story,   the language,   the learning, the interactive,   part of it.   Because then you learn it. Right? If you talk about language,   you got to talk about it and you have to feel the word,   right? So you listen to a word. So   what's that mean?  

And if you don't know the language yet, they can point out like a bird.   Or they make a signature like, this is a bird. Oh, a bird. So you're going to get all these little   connections in your head   to form the language for yourself. And then you're going,   like, probably after these 1,000 words, you're gonna   probably make up some things, but they they will make sense when you make them up. Right? Because you know the feeling of and the vibe of the of the language.  

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Well, that's the beauty of the age of the beginning to now. If you can use Google to translate any text you want.   Yes? Yeah. So you can translate the text into any any   language you want,   but also,   the space could be used to create your own text   about the the the picture.   Yeah. What you see   and a way to express yourself. And the same thing we use Google   to to,   have a good   translation,   a basic translation, because, I mean,   Google has its limits.   You can   really a professional,   for just   a a professional person to translate   the   the tech for you, but Google will give you a good basic understanding.  

Yeah. And you can use that to create your own text and put that in the book and expand your vocabulary   as well.  

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Wow.   Yeah.   It's something like the the the the copywriter.   Right? So so,   what do you think about AI? Maybe that's that's a that's a that's a big sidestep. But,   of course,   when you are authentic   and you have creativity   as a writer, as an author,   people say, oh, yeah. But nowadays, we can put some prompts, some words into,   like a website. And it it develops its own story.   Do you think it's a threat for us as humans   to have this creative   AI with us? Or do you think that   we will beat it because we have still the authenticity   and more creativity   than a computer program?  

Well,  

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I had a friend who was looking at my book   and he came up to me and he said, Look,   I've just put these words into this AI computer thing. I've got sorry.   Yeah, I cannot print the book.   I thought, well, that's, you know, that's pretty ingenious.   But   you will adapt the human connection   with that sort of thing. I think that's what what's missing.   The,   the the human mind is capable of many different things   and to have connections at very high levels,   and the AI wouldn't do that for you.   It wouldn't give you the spiritual connection that you need,   which I hope people will see in in my   in my writing.  

Right.   Yeah. Now the second book,   this one's a bit longer.   Yes. This one is   about 3 and a half 1000 words.   Yeah. So Okay. Wow.   So so once again,   but 3 3 and a half 1000 words   times 5 because there's 5 branches.   Yeah. And then there's there's there's another   several languages in the book,   altogether.   So it's multilingual,   but then street sides and land is if you do evolve from 1   to 3 to 3 year and a half pattern, that could be 4 and a half pattern   words. And in the same way, you're expanding your vocabulary in   a very comfortable way and understanding the the right way.   It's it's it's,   it's a very   it's a nice story as well. It's it's a a more   it's a spiritual story,   key.  

It's it's about,   oh shit, it's about a key,   that   that,   leads to a spiritual adventure.   Yes, so   this guy   finds a key and that key   goes from one scene to another,   this whole spiritual adventure   that takes place.   Wow. So   yeah?   So,   that's   another interesting story, which,   which   I mean, it did win the 1st prize,   but,   I bet   he wasn't in a competition.   But   I did get a very good,   compliment from this school from,   a teacher.   Yes.   She saw this yeah. That that's good.   Good.   And that's just the basic story,   that that she saw. And I then I expanded on that and expanded on that and that search say have another unique piece of work.   Right.  

Now you you you you say you're you're writing your   autobiography.   Is that right? Yeah.  

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I screwed up a little bit in life,   with a little twist.   In 2018,   I had a surgery that took out 35 centimeters   of my intestines.   And I start to write   about who am I? How did I came so far   that I end up,   in the hospital after 3 times in inflammation and perforation of my intestines,   and that they had to take   the damn thing out? So I was starting to,   basically start a   biography   about, well, who am I and and,   what was my journey,   to   well, for people to read it to prevent that they're gonna end up just like me.   And,   it it's it's funny that we we mentioned it because,   last week,   I thought I finished it, and,   I laid it   aside. I wanted to bring it out last year. I want to bring it out the year before. It didn't wind up.  

But last week I gave it to someone who was interested in it,   reading it. And she, she really liked it. So, I'm going to put it on the website.   There are some small things that I have to edit.   Yeah. So that makes me an author too, probably. And   I think I need the help of the Internet to translate it to   other languages like, well, German and English would be great.   But I know,   that is gonna take a lot of time. And,   you can double everything in life except time. Right? So.  

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Well,   night doesn't stop.   Light doesn't stop with death.   Hell, so so therefore,   hey, sky's the limit with with that time.   Right.  

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And and why would you say that there is no limit if the sky is the limit is it's it's this old saying,   Brings me back to a to, like, a dome place   thing, where there is a limit to the sky.  

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Right?   Well,   the first tunnel I encountered   later   was when on very very young   and I used to to read those asterisk books.   Right.   You remember?   Yeah.   Out of the chimney   his greatest worry   was that the sky was gonna fall on. Remember   that? Yeah.   Yeah?   That's typical flat Earth,   and   it it's also in the Simpsons.   I'm the you know, the sky is falling in.   Yeah? Right.   So so it was way back then   that there was an introduction   for everybody   in a very subtle way   Uh-huh.   To to the idea   that we need in a contained   system.   Yeah? And there's a roof over our heads.  

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Right, with the sky clock.  

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And so we gotta   be careful that there's a pool of our heads.   Yes.   And   it's,  

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once you go into that kind of, let's say, rabbit hole   at a young age,   what more,   conspiracies,   if there are conspiracies, because I think it's like critical thinking, right? It's like, okay, this is what we're going to tell you.   And when you're going to use your mind, you can ask some questions which are against   our model or against our truth, which is making, for them an easier   way to explain like, oh, you're a conspiracy,   theorist. No, I'm just asking critical questions about   stuff that you're telling me. That's a different story, right?   What's your favorite one?  



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My favorite conspiracy?   Yeah.   Well it's got to   be black to it, doesn't it? Right.  

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People say that It's like the mother of conspiracies.   Right?  

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It does. It does. But then again, it's it's an interesting thing to   to try to come to terms.   Now,   when when I started   on YouTube, the spiritual journey,   yes,   it was all about the heliocentric   model.   Yes. That was the base of it.   And 18 months   into that,   the idea of flat earth came up.   And I thought, well,   flat earth is just, like, one step further   from the electric universe.   Right.   Yeah. And the Electric Universe   I prefer the Electric Universe   to our,   heliocentric   model with,   thi   thermonuclear   sun and everything.   Yes. Alright,   son.  

I much prefer the electric universe   theory,   and you could say that's a conspiracy as well.   Yes? But,   on on   what when I heard about it, that Earth,   I I remember all my studies that were concerning   the Electric Universe.   So on the spiritual journey, I introduced the idea   of the Electric Universe   and   and pass Earth.   Yes, because it's just one step away.   Right. The Electric Universe is,   the heliocentric   model,   has an electromagnetic   model. Completely everything's electromagnetic   in the eyes.   So   the cracker, they're just one step away from that. You take you   you take away the   the the geocentric model, and it puts in the,   the the geocentric   model,   model,   which, a lot of scientists still actually believe in,   a geocentric model,   and so and so you can juggle with these 3 different heart of the ears   and still pick it up a lawn.  



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Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have to.   Yeah. Because,   yes, with some signs and with some stuff that you can   do by yourself,   You can say, oh, I'm probably   convinced that we're living on a flat earth or a globe or whatever.   But there are you should always keep an open mind for other,   point of views.   Just not to narrow your mind about things that could be. Because a lot of things   that are been talked about, whatever conspiracy, whatever,   are theories, are not facts.   Because when they're a fact,   then there's no debauchering about, right, when a fact is a fact. But it's like,   the theory of,   gravity,   the theory of the global or flat Earth. Right? Why would you still have   this conversation in 2024   when it's 100%   convinced to be a fact that we're living on a globe or on a flat plane?  

Right?   Well,  

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let me interject there that,   for my,   for my university degree,   I also   to to to get there, I also had   to study philosophy.   And philosophy,   you have to have a skeptical mind. You have to look at everything   with a skeptical mind and try and figure   out something else rather than just accepting it for what it is.   Yes. Right. You have to get to the nature of it. And you have to   it's   and there's 2 sides to it as well. There's 2 sides to it because,   my teacher, he was he was a,   he was a he was a brilliant teacher. Yeah.   I mean, once he got off one of the surgery   and he he got the chalk in his hand,   he would   he would go mad or or he would go so fast on the,   the blackboard,   rightly down. And I would say, look, why don't you slow down and you make less mistakes on the on the blackboard? Because if you grab on, will you pass hold on. That that, you know, that letter would roll.  

Right. Right.   It's a bit so. But it was, like, impossible. They were so fired up.   We were so passionate.   And,   that rubbed up on me   to have this critical mind   for everything I see.   Now,   in his in his   world,   he was an atheist.   Yes?   Very critical about the Bible and,   church and Anthony and saying he was a he was what I call   a hardened   atheist.   Now he told me that his uncle   was a bishop in the church.   A bishop. Yeah?   And all of his family were sort of,   churchgoers   and, you know,   spiritual people.   Well, he said, no. Stop for me. Yeah. I want logic and reason.   Yes. And look what I can do on the board.  

Yeah. It's amazing what he could do with with Reason and Logic.   By taking any subject,   he could really hammer it out. Yeah. He was a master   in it. Yeah. And he was really passionate.   But I came to him and I said, Well look,   there   are 2 parts of philosophy.   1 is,   sort   of atheistic,   possibly,   and the other is spiritual philosophy.   And he sort of agreed with that.   And, I wrote a paper,   and I said, well,   would you agree that there is a spiritual dimension?   And he said, yeah. Yeah. Can you read the paper and said, yeah. That that's a good example of,   yes. You presented a good argument for a spiritual dimension.  

So, yes, I agree with you. And you were the master   atheist.   So why was he agreeing that there was a spiritual dimension?   Right.   So,   he did agree with me that,   there were spiritual Roman action,   and there are two ways you can look at philosophy.   Yeah?   With or without God.   Yeah? Uh-huh.   With or without spirituality.   In fact, there there was one guy that wrote a book   on,   the spirituality,   and   I I believe   a journalist   and atheists,   professionals, they got together and they wrote this book that spirit   spirituality   exists   throughout.  

Yeah?   Even for atheists.   And,   this is something   I don't know if you've heard of this guy called Dale   Snape Children.   Yes.   Yeah? He might assert Of course.   Yeah?   Yeah.   He he told me yeah. And he told me that he's a very spiritual guy.   Yeah?   Which he's   which I which you can feel straight away.   Yeah? Yeah. What about that? Well well, when you talk to him, you can feel that spirituality   and the thoughts.  

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And he has deep thoughts.   We have deep thoughts.   He likes to talk, and he studied a lot philosophy,   like Nietzsche,   Freud, all these guys,   but also wants to take it from their own perspective. So we are in a group,   with a lot of,   let's say,   brilliant minds.   Because,   just like you said before,   if you   take the consideration that you wanna close your mind by the things that you   think as a fact are,   then you're gone. Because   you shut at the door for all the other options that you don't,   willing to accept or willing to dig into.   And that what really fascinates me also about,   conspiracies. Right? Okay. Oh, this is,   as I always say, like, oh, more a plausible truth   for myself,   but it doesn't mean it's the truth.  

And, for example, David, what's your,   what's your favorite,   let's say, 3   silver bullets   that you think that we're living on a flat earth?  

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Oh,   so you think I'm a flat earther?  

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Let's let's let's say I see the Gleason map where you're   in in the back of you. So it must be an interesting   subject. Let let's say that.  

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Well, I I think,   I think sunsets   prove that we live on a flat faster because   if you   if you zoom in to the sunset,   into the sun,   at the at the moment   that   it just about to disappear. Yes? Right?   If you zoom into the Sun   at that time   what you will see and this has been done many many many times   and there are many videos of this and   I've even seen it myself and made it yet.   Not of the sun and set but of the sunrise.   What you will see is that the sun   doesn't go   below the horizon. Right.   Disappears   into the atmosphere   above the horizon.   Yeah.  

Now, if you ask somebody who   absolutely believes in the globe,   they will come up with   a number of excuses and reasons   that,   Baggy Baggy will never see the   sun   actually go behind the horizon.   Yes.   Right.   And they would also give you excuses like, oh, but you can see,   you can see a half sun.   Yes?   Which   which logically,   because you can see half the sun, that means you you can see half the light.   It doesn't mean to say that it's actually gone behind   the the horizon.   Yeah. It just means you can only see the light that that,   is in the sky because the horizon   is   the land and the sky. So you can only see the light that is in the sky. So you will never see   the sun,   go,   behind   the Behind it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And past the   device would all just disappear   into that. Right.  

Yeah. Right. But they they come up with the cheap system.  

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Yeah. There are a lot of tests that that that you can see. Even,   David Wise has a lot of tests about that.   Tyler   Fittis Flat Earth, where he's pointed out in a lot of his videos on TikTok.   And the funny thing is   there are more people   proving   that we're living on a flat Earth   than people are proving   that we're living on a globe, except, of course, NASA and,   their studios that paint   planets and universes, and stuff like that. But we know that,   like 600,000,000   miles away,   light years away, there's a planet that smells like farts. We know that   for sure. Yeah. I didn't get it.  



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Yeah. It's it's Electro's hot   hot field.   Yeah. Yeah.   It's,   Yeah. That that thing they   you you know,   if you if you present   a biblical verse in support of that earth,   they will say that's his religious jargon.   Yeah?   Well, if they present   something from instruments,   yes,   then that's fact even though it's the same thing that, you know, it's it's nothing else but a reading.   Yes? Right. It's a bit of a reader and the other one's an incremental   reading.   Really?   And and so the 2 sort of kind of play.   If if you can measure things like that with your instrument,   we can also take reading with the Bible.  

Right.   If you if you want to turn it into a religion.   I   think, you know,  

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it's very hard for people   to let go of their belief system.   It's very hard for people to acknowledge   that they have been indoctrinated   a lot   of times in their lives. So, you   know,   to not believe in something that you hold on for such a long time.   And   let's say the system is so genius   in programming us,   for their belief system that you can't question it.   Except, of course, for some free thinkers or some critical thinkers.   But,   I pointed that out also in one of my podcasts,   that the crazy thing about,   free minds or critical thinkers is they are the first ones that are going to be killed in a war.   That's a fact.  

Book burning   and get rid of all the intellectuals   and people that are free of thoughts, right?   So,   and we are in a   war.   You're based in the UK. I don't listening to   anything they wanna   project us, let's say, that way. But of course, sometimes   on   social media, you see something what's going on and stuff like that.   I know that we have to be very careful, especially when you are now in the UK,   David, about the things that you say about government. Because people are been locked up for saying whatever   they felt to express.   Right? It it's shocking. It's absolutely   horrendous.  

Right.  

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That they weaponize   speech   to create more fear.  

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It's unbelievable   that it's, I think   this is something, okay,   maybe I offend a few people, but I think the,   my audience knows what I'm trying to say here.   I think that we're living in more dangerous times than in World War II.   In World War II,   there were   some people that had to flew   for their lives,   100%.   There was a lot of shit going on.   But nowadays,   you can't   finger point   what the system is going to tell you about tomorrow.   So tomorrow is gonna be the bald headeds. Then that's the one, who's been tattooed. Then it's the bald headed, tattooed guys with a beard. Hey, hi, I'm Rob.   But, you know,   the system is so fierce on   getting   pinpointed to some several persons that you,   maybe today you're afraid, tomorrow you'll be imprisoned, just for nothing.  

That's what could frighten   us.   The other thing is, and I think it's good to touch base on that, is that we shouldn't be afraid of it, because there are more people   willing to,   fight in a spiritual way   for freedom to say no against,   whatever system that will be.   That will work with much more people. You see that also   in the UK, that they're going to take down cameras and stuff like that.   Because what you can see,   you can't control.   Right? But it's   crazy times.   I don't know,   where you live in the UK,   David, is it something that   it's been pointed out in the news? Or is it in your normal life, your daily life, that you can see   the division and the stuff that's going on?  

Well, there there are lots of,   craze  

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and demonstrations   that go go on around   the   the neighborhood.   But   I don't really watch television,   you ass.   So   I don't watch I don't watch the mainstream media.   I I don't I don't read the newspaper.   Yes? Right.   I   I've got YouTube,   and I've got, my computer, and I've got my writing. In fact,   I was I was talking to my,   work. I suppose you recall that she's literally my agent.   She's a literary agent.   I was talking to her today, and we're we're planning to read my next book,   hopefully,   this year or maybe   early next year.   So   and and like your book,   it's it's it's,   autobiography,   autobiography,   in a similar style,   to these books,   multi language books. Uh-huh.  

But instead of sort this one, like,   gives over a thousand words, This one's   over, 3,000 words.   That will be, like,   almost 20 as a word.   Wow.   But if you've got that sort of,   vocabulary,   behind you, then   hence you're you're you're basically,   intermediate level.   Yes? Right.   Yeah. So that's the 3 books   that I can use on my courses.  

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Is it,   is it something completely new? Are you the only author that that writes   multilingual   books or other more   in this genre?   Well, you can you can find  

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finding   books whether written   in   in in English,   in another language.   That you can certainly find,   if you're lucky.   Yes? Right.   In in fact,   I I find quite a few of them,   to be in French,   like,   Sherlock Holmes.   They've got Sherlock Holmes stories in English in French.   So you can read it in English and French. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.   That's very useful.   That was part of my   development to to become fluent in French.   Yes.   Like but I also   read lots of children's books   because the names were very simple, and it was all in French.   Right.   And it was a good conversation   piece because, you know, I could go out to French people and say, what does this word mean? You know? And they would say,   bong? You know, bong? What? Bong mean?  



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Right? Right? Yeah.  

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And and bong mean,   like,   in English,   similarly,   all   like paying  

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a a symbol.   All right. Okay.   Okay.   Okay.   But it's a conversation being talked about.   Well, I mean, you learn the most things to   talk to people in a different language. Because just like I pointed out with the bird, and stuff like that, right? People   can interact with each other and communicate with each other with hands and feet, as we see here in the Netherlands. But we do, you know, if you go to,   like say Spain or   Italy,   and you don't know the language, you try   to mimic   what you mean, like I want to eat or to drink.   And that's how we   normally   communicate in that way.  

David, what's the   most   interesting language that you would like to learn?  

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Well,   I would say,   I'd like to learn Spanish.   Yes. Because Spanish is is a fact it's a lovely language.   Yeah?   Yeah. Oh, oh, well. I've been to Spain. I I don't speak the the language,   but there is Spanish in this book.   Yes?   Right. Because,   nor would I,   she's like fluent in Spanish as well. Yeah. So   that's so   that's,   I I I I'm responsible really for the English and the French   and she added the languages   Italian,   and I have Spanish   and Romania.   Wow.   So, well, like I say,   she could she could write that book in 10 different languages.  

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Yeah?   She's an amazed she's got an amazing mind. I think she's taken a PhD now.   Wow.   I had   a very,   well,   how was that?   So a nephew of my dad,   the mother the mother of that nephew, she was   92   years old   when she started as a German,   citizen, as a German,   woman,   another language, which was Dutch,   which is quite a hard language for a lot of people.   But she also,   spoke   fluently 8 languages.   Yeah. And she said, I'm always been,   like,   young at heart, because I love to learn about culture,   about languages,   about what connects people, how to pronounce things.   And, as we said in the beginning, it's very,   very interesting how to deal with not only will you speak the language in a business way, but also to connect to the cultural business way.  

Like you said, if you go to Japan,   you don't,   well, you don't directly talk about business because that's a failure.   If you go to Germany,   in Germany, you have something going on that you don't have in English.   So I can even if you are,   have a good title, I can call you,   you.   But in German,   you have something like du, so it's u, and   like   the higher form, which is sie.   So you can say to someone that you don't know,   like du.   That's,   there's a word for it. Tutor,   tuturjeerd.   I think it's  

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I I in in in Dutch, it's called tuturjeerd.   So you say   It's the same   in print.   Yeah? Right?   Yeah.   To to create someone,   it is using   the the the word too,   for you.   I'm married   to and is,   official.   So,   you would say something like,   of a male a little bit. Yeah?   Different   different ways of of of speaking. One would be more official,   and   perhaps a doctor would say,   now, but   yeah. Right. You say to to   to your Gilbert.  

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Right.   Every day.   And I worked for a for a English company, which is,   of course, you you speak English.   But we, as Dutch people, are very direct,   when it comes   to business,   in a direct matter. It's not something   like rude, but we wanna   help the others, right? And we were talking about briefly before we opt on a podcast, when you start to record button,   that a lot of Dutch people speak multiple languages.   And I think that has to do with   the mind of,   gathering our ships around the world.   Right?   Yeah.   And they are, we are very, very tiny little country,   but,   there's a lot of a lot of things going on, especially here in the haven in Rotterdam,   which is the biggest haven, I think, of Europe,   where all the goods come in. So a lot of people speak multiple languages.  

And nowadays,   when you drive around here, you got a lot of warehousing.   And, it's very,   it's not easy to find a Dutch   speaking   person nowadays.   It's English.   Well,   not on the English that we talk about now. It's like, yes, no, yes, no, no, yes, yes.   That's   what it is. But,   it's very fascinating.   I heard you also   are doing a podcast with JJ   Diamond.   Is that right, David?   JJ Diamond.   JJ. Okay. I'm sorry for pronouncing you,  

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correct.   It's in the pipeline.   Yeah? Alright.   So I I can't I can't really say   we're definitely gonna do it, but it's in the in in the pipeline.   I'm supposed to be doing this in the near future. Yaya   Diamond. Right.   She's a she's got an amazing voice.   Yes?   Amazing singer. She's got her her own   podcast.   So   she she multitasks   every day.   And so she's up early, doing good   stuff, mostly when I was a teacher.  

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Right.   Well, I I love to connect with her too, because I I'm doing all the stuff too, you know? I make music,   wrote a book,   do podcasting. I work normally.   But I think that that's what connects us, a lot of people, like you too,   with the creative mind,   with illustrations,   with the text, with thinking about something new.   Is this your first podcast, David,   or have you been on several podcasts before?  

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Well, I I did an interview with with   Doctor.   Kupp, Doctor. Jonathan Kupp.   You won't know him. I I met him on   the big team.   Yes. But,   we had a talk about,   of all things, back to Earth. Now he's he's he's a PhD doctor,   and he's been borrowing   the reubenon   since,   I'll be too bad in 14 when it started.   Right. And   we we we we we did an interview together, and at the end, we we we admitted,   that there was no crew   for a flatter  

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than they were really sort of gloat.   Right.   That's a nice segue, though, because we only have one   silver bullet, and and I was asking you for 3 of them. So the first one was about a sunset.   The sun never sets. It's your perspective of how you look at it. Right?   What would be your second,   silver bullet?  

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Difficult, but you can't you can't have pressure without containing it.   It. Yes? Very good one. And and people will say, well,   gravity   contains everything,   and then you've got to go in to   discuss about gravity and   electrostatic.   And   people who actually believe in in the globe and Einstein and Newton,   they will never ever give up their position.   And I don't blame them. That's what they've learned. And,   I would suggest that they study philosophy   and become,   skeptical about everything.   Right.   But after after about 6 months of of studying philosophy,   the teacher declared that we were a class, a new class of philosophers.  

Right. Right. And so you've gotta be skeptical   about these things.   Why trust the government? Why trust the official line?   Why trust,   why trust the somebody else?   Why not be skeptical?   Why not be skeptical?   Yes?   And and yet and yet, there there are many philosophers   that are that are,   that would already   believe in   that the world is a guy.   Yes? Right.   And it's okay. Right? But because  

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we figure it out, then we only figure out the shape of the earth, but it doesn't solve our problems that we're all dealing   in in normal life with with the taxes, with the with the food prices, with the food shortage, with   the governments that rule our country, and stuff like that.   If you got the answer to 1, it doesn't mean that you solve all the problems for   for humankind.   That's that's impossible.  

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That I I think   I think   the answer to that   is is to,   get rid of what they call the deep state or   or or the people that are,   now that are controlling this world   to   the people that have created   the modern day slavery system.   Right. The puppet marsters.   Because we are living in the modern day slavery system.   And our prime minister, our last prime   minister, perhaps this is why he lost the the election,   but he actually admitted   that,   we are   the people are now living in the modern day slavery system. Now that is against the law.   Yes?  

All forms   of slavery   have been outlawed.   And so the modern slavery system is legal system.   Yeah. And   if you if you study the difference between   common law   and   the legal system or maritime law, right,   you can see that one is is corrupt.   I'm like, it's just it's it's based on,   it's based on prince biblical principles,   of do no harm   and and,  

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treat your neighbor as you do treat yourself, really. Right. Right. I think Bill Turner pointed out a lot of times, right? There's a lot of things still to find   on YouTube about this subject.   I do agree with you. And   the scale of corruption   is so big   that it's,   you got to take it out by the root. So the puppet master, also the puppet master has been fed   to,   to roll over puppets. Right. So   it's like if you have a beautiful garden,   and you got some weeds in it that don't belong there. Some of them weeds, you can, try to expel them, but they're still there, even on the ground.   You can use montesans to round up, but that's not a conspiracy. Right? So   to fight fire with fire.  



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If you take the biblical look at   the problem,   the problem isn't so much the people that we have living on this earth,   but the entities   in the spiritual world   are   putting the strings of people,   in in this world.   Yes?   So so we're talking about humanity   et?   Right. Now when you go into battle,   are you and then you cross reference it with the Bible, you know,   it said in the Bible, and I hope repeat the the   the the text exactly,   but it says,   we   we we don't have to fear our fear each other,   but we have to be careful or we have to fear,   entities and principalities   in high   places in the spiritual world.  

They're the ones   and until we can   sort that out,   which are which which might actually take   an act of gold, the axe   Mhmm.   Then,   and I'm talking about God the creator, I'm not talking about,   the Apollo gold.   Right. Right.   The Apollo God that they shoot up in into space in a rocket.   Yes?   They they call they they call these,   these rockets after,   After gods. Yeah. Apollo, Artemis.   Mythical   gods. Yeah. Yes. Everything they do,   even even CERN.   Yes? Outside of CERN, you'll see Krishna.   Yes? Right. The goddess.   Yes? And,   I've seen videos where where,   the,   they do several modings with Vishnu   at night.  

You know? Vishnu is the is the one that that destroyed   everything.   And I've claimed something. I've claimed something as well.   Now you might think the legal system is a good system. Like I said, they're different than the legal system on common law.   But I noticed,   that here on the common,   and I've filmed it. Yeah.   And   I got to know the university   guides that were studied for,   or or at least one of them. Yeah.   That was and he was like the head guy for this this work. Yeah.   That was studying   for their   their bar degree. Yeah. Right. Remember,   bar be become   lawyers and,   and what have you in the legal system.  

Now I saw them. There was a whole group of them. Yeah?   And don't forget they're just students, and and they probably not   passed their their their final exams.   But they're doing, like, a,   well, I wouldn't say satanic,   but I would say   a martial art sort of   demonstration   to all moonwalkers up to the new moon. Their eyes.   And I I've caught them. I've filmed them,   what they were doing with, you know, with dash sticks and everything.   And I was told   delete that.   Delete it. Otherwise, you're gonna have a problem, but   then Right. I I I mean, you're supposed to wait to   to to film in in public. But obviously,   filming a bunch of lawyers is not a very good good way to   to   to style Danny.  

Right.   Especially if they   were around doing,   a little bit,   to the gods. Mhmm.   To to the pagan gods rather than   to God the creator.   Yeah.   So,   it looks a bit like they were doing a pagan exercise.   Yeah?   Mhmm.  

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Well, that's that's the sort of system we've gotta grow up with.   Yeah.   And and still is for me, it's very fascinating. I was,   I always talk   a lot   to snake,   Turban hat about it, about paganism,   God, wherever God writes it. There are multiple gods   in multiple cultures.   But if you break it down, and   listeners of this podcast know that I like to break things down, it's like the Bible is about 2000 years old.   But before that, you had   like Hinduism,   paganism,   and there weren't   cultural   people that would,   have a writing to write things down.   And my fascinating   point of view,   well, not against the Bible, but about the Bible is,   what   and who wrote it with what kind of intention?  

Because   it's very fascinating that we deep dive into   a lot of conspiracy   theories with a lot of people, not only with you and not only with me, but with a lot of people digging into rabbit holes.   But we don't question about books that are telling us   what to do.   And the question will be, is it the truth or is it something like, okay, okay, wait a minute, somebody's screwed up here. Or somebody   had the other intention   to have that.   For me,   that's one of   the, not the jawbreakers, but   to keep our mind busy. Like, how about that? How about that?   Are you talking about the Bible?  

Yeah, well, you got the Bible, which is about 2000 years old.   But somebody wrote it   with an intention.   What is the intention? And before that, there were 1000 of years other belief systems, something they called in the Bible paganism,   but it was like worshiping   nature,   like the creation of God   with multiple gods.   If you break down the Hebrew word of Elohim, like   the big ones,   the God ones,   I had interesting podcast with Dario   Alblera, and he had,   he has a friend who's working for the Vatican   to,   translate   the Hebrew texts.   And he figured out that the word   God, as we know it,   is not the right word when you translate it from Hebrew. The Hebrew word is namely   multiple gods.  

Yeah. That's  

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yeah. Yeah.   It that was also   something   I can't remember who's   that? I think I'm trying to remember his name yet, yesterday back.   But he he was a very, very famous,   esoteric man,   and he died quite recently.   But I I can't remember his name. Was it Bill Cooper?  

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No. He's been  

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I I was trying to think of his name,   it's certainly   in my mind.   Yeah. But   he said the same thing,   that   that word God   translates   to more.  

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Right. It's fascinating.   And I think I think if if you if you are human you should question everything.   Yeah. Right?   Exactly.   Be skeptical about the bible,  

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and but it don't throw the the baby out with the bat.   That no. No. Exactly. That that there's there's some very interesting stuff in there. Like like,   it says that God loves all of his creation, so he loves, you know, he loves everything. He loves all the angels.   Yeah. Yeah. Even if you are a gay pagan, he loves you, you know.   He loves it all. It has,   That doesn't mean to say   it's the best thing to do,   what they've done, but   that's why he creates it. So he loves it all. So, yeah, atheist, I think, well, I love them.  

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Well, if you're atheist, I got something to say too, because if you're atheist, you have a belief system   that's against your own belief system to believe something.   But to be an atheist is a belief system itself.  

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Tada.   Yeah.  

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So you can't say I don't believe in something when your belief system is something that you don't believe in.  

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Well, I've been listening to, you know that guy called Matt   Dillahunty?   No, not yet. Matt Dillahunty.   Matt Dillahunty,   yeah. He's an atheist.   He he he's he's also   a deep thinker and and sort   of,   I think I think his take on it is that an atheist is someone who says that there's   no evidence   to believe that there's a God.   And,   but that doesn't mean that they can't   believe in other things.   Right.   There's no evidence of being a God, that's why they were atheists.  

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I think it's fascinating, especially,   I think it's very good to have a belief system   like,   good and wrong.   But it's very it's   very strange in this world because,   for example,   I'm from the Netherlands.   We eat cows.   Go to India, which is a different culture, different belief system,   don't eat a cow. I mean,   go there, it's a holy animal.   If you   walk the dog here in in the Netherlands, or in the UK, or in America, you have dogs as pets. In China, they eat them.   And we   can,   convict someone like, oh, that's a stupid belief system or whatever. But they do the same with us. Like, you walk that dog, you should eat it. It's   a healthy photo, whatever.  

So it's very,   it's also,   yeah, it's also   divide and conquer, right? Because,   I was in LA the other day,   like,   a few weeks back,   thank God for that opportunity, but I had some euros with me.   And   it was quite a lot of money, for example, like €50 or €60,   which you can buy some food and stuff like here, ride you. You can fill up your gas tank. Well, not completely, but you can fill up some gas.   But in America,   even these €60   are nothing because you can't pay anything with it.   So, it depends on where you are, what kind of culture, what kind of people   having value   about   the things that you have. And value is also in belief systems, right? If you believe in a better world that you don't harm   other people,   then you got 80% of all the religions done, right? You have respect to the other ones, and they're going to give you respect back. If you treat them like shit,   well, you can end up be killed in some religions. And,   that's, of course, a very black and white story.  

But it's really fascinating that,   yes, we, as humans, we need something to believe in.   I know that for sure. But I think from me, from my perspective, it will be more,   in the nature way. As as you explained, like the spiritual way, the nature way.   Like,   I can see that, I can I can smell that, I can feel it,   touch it?   Well, feel it or touch it's the same. But,   which goes more into the pagan narrative of belief system than in the   godlike?   What's the difference between feed and touch?   Yeah, exactly. That's  

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Well, you you you can feel you can feel a strong breeze   on on your on on your hand or your arm. Yes?   Right.   Yes. But but you you can you can you can touch   the the laptop.   Right.   So different. Yeah.   Yeah.   I was growing and I have my  

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my language speciality.   Yeah. Good. Good.   David, I always   have 14   questions for my guests.   I'm gonna bring them up.   And   after we have oh, where are they now? Oh my God. Did I   I'm going mad.  

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Keep watching questions.   Oh, no.  

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There are some which   could be very hard to question or to answer, as I   said. And some of them are just like, okay, very, very easy.   I hope so.   But before that, before that, David, thank you for hopping on this organized production. I hope you had a great time.   Where do people can find you, find you books, find you work? I want to point it out first.  

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Well,   I can send you links if you will.  

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Links are I can't believe.  

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Yes? But these these books are on Amazon,   and you you must ask for,   published by   Workbook   Press.   Yes. That's that's the publisher.   Alright.   So you ask you ask for these books,   in my name. Yeah. David Gordon Sally.   Mhmm. Sure.   Workbook grads.   And, the would be,   22.   Yeah? Mhmm. 2022.   Not 2024.   And I I think the next book's gonna be 2025.   Wow. Maybe maybe that will be printed,   the chair. I mean, I have no idea how fast they're gonna do this   this this next book.   That, we're all pretty  

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enthusiastic   about this this,   this trilogy.   Nice. Cool. And so A trilogy for learning languages and a trilogy   for spirituality   as well. I love that. I love that combination because it's not only for this or only for that. It's a combination   of all these things that,   I think that that will, trigger a lot of people to   deep dive into the books. I will put them in the show description for sure,   but not   without asking you these questions.   David, what's your definition of the devil?  

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Well,   I think there's a difference between Satan and The devil.   But,   according to   according to,   seeing Griffin   who who who,   has has got   a Bobcats,   or yeah.   He's got a show called   Kingdom in Context.   Satan is a real person.   He's actually he's actually   I think he's   about   he's got a special   crack,   a space crack,   which is as big as a mountain   with,   and it's got   a a cloak of invisibility   and it just goes round up in circles,   above us,   yes,   about 4 kilometers up or something,   4 or 5 kilometers.   Maybe maybe more   maybe,   maybe 6 or 7 kilometers up or maybe 10 kilometers. I'm not too sure, but   he's supposed to be a real person and he's stuck.  

And he's just   he's just enjoying his time. That's that's better there are that's his idea.   Yeah? He's a real person.   He inspired   the,   the tower of Babylon for   it. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.   Yeah. Now the the tower of Babylon   was all about a dethrone in Gaul   who who sits just above,   the throne room.   Yeah. Hubble's Batter.   Right.   Yes? I mean,   so they built the the tower of Babylon   to to dethrallim,   to kick him off, and take his place.   You know?   Unfortunately,   they can succeed,   and,   you you I mean, God's got a sense of humor.   Yeah? Mhmm.   He's actually written in the bible.  

He's looking down and he's laughing at people   trying to do this. All these nations come together, you know, trying to build the this tower, and he's just laughing at them. Right.  

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Right.   He must have a good time when he looking down on earth right now, because he sees a shit show that a lot of people are   aware of. And a lot of people are just like, okay, get me popcorn   and get me a beer, and I just watch it as it falls inside. Right.  

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Yeah. But imagine it's gonna be a happy ending, so don't worry.  

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100%. 100%. Yeah.  

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You're you're gonna get the the a real happy ending.   So I've so you gotta go you gotta go through   the primp cam   Mhmm. Or in the end. You gotta go through it, but the happiness is gonna be,   is gonna be a good surprise.   Right.  

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We have the the the the subtitles of my show, like, disorganized productions.   Chaos creates harmony.   There's no other way around.   Chaos and order.   David, what's your definition of God?  

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Well,   from the from the   the the flatter   prospect,   he's he's   the creator   of   our known universe,   and he sits on a throne   just above the proverbial   That's that's,   a a batter that we're preaching.   I I I would   before   I came to the factory, I would all say,   God is the spirit in the sky.   Yes?   Mhmm. Because I love the soul.   Could you call it ether? Spirit in the sky.  

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The spirit in the sky, could you call it also ether, one of the elements that they took out?   Well, ether is everywhere, isn't it? Right.   And isn't the spirit of God everywhere?   Yeah.   I love to look at that fact.   What's your definition   of value,   David?  

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Something that can give you positive   idea.   Yes.   So so if if you've got if you've got an apple and it's nice and red,   you eat it. That's gonna give you a lot of value. Nutrition's and everything else. Right.   But I'm looking forward to reaching my apple later on. You know, having been a teacher, I've now eaten apple every night.   Right.  

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Do you eat it completely,   or do you eat, around the the clock house? What's it called in English? The the the The core. The   right.  

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The core. I actually, I did meet a Dutch man. He was a fracking bloke. Yeah?   And,   he he showed me how to he's an apple, and he ate everything, even the poor.   Yes.   Yeah? Yeah. I I I   I missed it, but I I should've given him a bunch of banana, and I said, Tribomes.  

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Right, but the, it's, it's,   the best part is the pork.   Well, if you eat it together with the flesh of the apple,   like if you take it on a stick, so you have the   round apple and you take like a bites like that, you're going to have a little bit of the core, a little bit of the flesh. So it mix. But if you eat around it with the flesh and you have only the core,   it's a little bit awkward.   But it's the same, like I got   told by a 8 year old at that time,   she was popping up strawberries with the green, just like flop in her mouth. And just like, you got to take care of the green. She said, no,   the most nutritious are in the green. I said, what?  

Looked it up. And now I swear to God, I take my strawberries   with the green.   It's just it's God's food. Right? It's it's the Garden of Eden.  

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So so you   eat it with with the green   stem and leaves?   Yes. And and the leaves? Yes.   That is something I will have to try.   Yes, but I think I'll have to cut it up into   little pieces.  

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I think that's   okay.   But also with the apple, I don't eat that much fruit.   But,   apple, I eat it completely now. I can, I only have the little stem,   the little, that's   the only thing I got left?   And hopefully, an apple has that because I can,   take the apple,   you know, and and eat around it.   It's fascinating.  

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Yeah. Good luck.   Sorry about that. How one of my  

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one of the people knocking on my door. Oh, no props. No props.   We will continue   with the questions.   What's your and I think that's the last   hard question. What's your definition of success,   David?  

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Every night,   to sleep well,   and to and to be spiritually   intact.   And to wake up in the morning,   feeling dirt.   Having had a good night sleep.   That's   what I call spiritual success.   Financial success   is another thing where you're putting labels on success.   Financial success   is,   I think   living   well   and not being in debt.   Mhmm. If you can avoid that, we a lot of people can't,   unfortunately.   The system is is built against them. Mhmm. If you could been if you could live without a headache,   that's good. Now I I'm I I think,   the the prime minister of England   announced   today or yesterday   that,   due to a a slight problem with with the with the government,   We are England is now a £150,000,000,000   in debt,   and the taxpayer will have to pay this.  

You know? Oh, right.   Yeah, because it's the government that that they spend the money,   they make their mistakes,   and   we   support them.  

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Oh, it I I hope that one day these people will find   credibility,   accountability   about the stuff that they're putting up our throats.   Because when we have these kinds of people   ruling over us with no credibility   and no accountability,   it's like   giving monkeys   the power to rule, and we will dance around in shit. And that's exactly what we're doing right now.  

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Well,   There there were some   very bad people.   And there's a lot of corruption   going on   in this world. And a lot of it is,   why is it   just   endemic, it's everywhere.   So so rather than look at those sort of things, you know, rather than taking, you know, one day you're you're quite happy, you know, you're sleeping well, and the next day you wake up and you're a £150,000,000,000   in fact,   instead of thinking   instead of thinking about that,   yeah, just think, well, there there's gonna be a nice happy ending, so don't worry about it. Right.   Love and light.  



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That's that's something, right? Love and light. And and nowadays I say love and light. Goddamn it.   But love  

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and light, but you butts no beam. That's what I say. Right. Right. It took took took me a long time to keep up sniping.  

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David, what's your favorite color?  

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Well, I've I've got to say it's blue.   Mhmm. Yeah. Because it's a cool color.   And,   you know, you don't want to get too hot.   Right? Yeah? What's the best   the best football team when I would go was like   red.   Well, I saw 1 now. I don't want that. What? And then cool. Oh, awesome. Blue. Right. The blue was second half, but   it was cool.  

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Okay.   What's your, favorite music?  

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Well, I'm not I'm so much a music fan.   Well, I do like   classical music.   Mhmm.   And   funnily enough,   my ex wife,   she bought back   music from Sweden.   Yes?   And,   places   like that, and   it was beautiful music.   Yeah? So, I I   yeah. I I loved the Bee Gees when when when they were cowards.   Right. Yeah.   Which is, I think they're Swedish as well.  

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I don't know.   But   is it like the Swedish, like the the Viking kind of music? Like the old folklore   music?   Well, I'm talking about the pop music that they created. Right, right. I think ABBA was Swedish,   PGs, I don't know, I don't know.  

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Yeah. I'm a PGs and I when when you say   PGs   and Abel and   yeah. Prepped to Labba.   Right.  

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Yeah. What's your what's your favorite movie or series?  

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Well,   I shouldn't say this really,   but I didn't enjoy   John Wick.   Oh wow.  

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Because the justice that he brings with this   rampage,   right?  

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It's, it it was just, it was,   just so creepy me off. You you know he's gonna win every time.   And it's so, it's so   it's so crazy.   Yeah?   Yeah.   I must admit, I I think about that series. And   if another   episode comes out, I'll probably watch   it.   Right,  

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and to be honest with you, I love John Wick, but the last one, it was so ridiculous.   It was so ridiculous.   It's, and still it's fun to watch. I don't know what it is. Sometimes you have to skip all the stuff, you know, like conspiracies   and whatever the shape of earth is. Sometimes you just have to look at some Hollywood shit, and just, you know, let your train of thoughts be the train of thoughts that they should be.  

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Well,   watching films like that hardens your mind   for for for the troubles and the tribulations   that you have to go through every day. Mhmm. So   I I watch films like that to to harden sort of   part of me so that,   I'm I'm not so sensitive when I go out and see movies.  

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Yeah?   Maybe that's also the the,   the point of view why they bring out these kind of movies. Right?   So you can harden the mind about the real society that you live in.   Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, that's not a very good idea, but,  

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yeah,   don't you? Based on something   we had a more   harmonious   world, and we didn't have to do that.   Right. But it's   now the other   did you hear about the other John Wick?   The other John Wick? The other John   Wick. Yeah, this was in   you like this story.   This was in the year 1900.   Now in the year 1900   in Portsmouth where I am now   Uh-huh.   There was a guy called,   I believe he was called John Wick.   And there was an article in the newspaper   that John Wick was trying to introduce   to the the the   the community   here   that the world was aglow.   And,   yeah, they were   He was trying to introduce the idea that because everybody knew   here Yeah.  

That the world was flat in the 1900.   And it was in all his paper,   And John Wick was trying to trying to   bedazzle everybody with the new science.   And   yeah. And I I I was kind of I was kind of amazed at   the the fact that there was this article about John Wick,   and it's on YouTube.   Wow.   Yeah. This this   if you look it up on on John Wick, they've got the article,   and somebody reading the article   about John Wick, and I was thinking, oh,   he he's   that's he must be a really, really bad guy.  

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Right.   The glow to everyone. Yeah.   Oh my, I love that story already. I'm gonna I'm gonna search it up, and and, put it in the short description. I love that right away.   This is gonna be, maybe because the next question could be a hard one David.   What is your favorite book?  

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Well at the mother wound,  

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it's the key. It's the key. Okay.  

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But perhaps   perhaps   the one that is,   going to be quickly   will be  

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my   Right. It's gonna be the masterpiece, right?   It's it's Yeah. It's a spiritual  

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autobiography.   Well, I should say   a phenomenal novel.   Yes, phenomenal,   spiritual.   Wow.   In the,   I hope   I hope   it helped people to learn other languages.   But it's,   it's it's, it's a double.  

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Right.   Yeah. What what's your favorite,   beverage or drink?  

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At the moment, I'm sort of the total.   I gave up   raping, so,   I must admit, at Christmas, I do like   a nice bottle of whiskey.   Oh. And   Right.   So in moderation   Yes. A nice whiskey.  

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Right. I love that.   What's your favorite food?  

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I've gotta say curry.   Indian curry. Indian curry. Right.   I mean, I used to take my girlfriend every Saturday night   to   to the curry, the Indian curry restaurant.   We'd say, you know, enjoy it, splash our meal.   Yeah, we'd be there.   That was every night, every every Saturday.   Right.  

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I think there are some good restaurants in, also Portsmouth, right?  

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Yeah. Yeah, definitely.   Yeah.  

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David, what kind of clothing you like to wear the most?  

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I've gotta say shorts and fit.  

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And the t shirt. Guy in shorts. Love that.  

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Flip Props and a t shirt.   Yeah. Right.   Yeah.   Perhaps, I mean, if I wanted to go over the top, I'd wear a hand pillow then on the head as well. Right. Right. Right. Okay. Okay.   If not to the core.   Right.  

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What's your favorite holiday destination?  

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Well,   I I would think that would be,   Malaysia.   That's,   the small island.   Yeah. Well, I mean, I've only been once,   but there was this beautiful   island.   We had to take   a small plane to this island,   and it was beautiful.   Yeah. So,   I forgot I forgot what it was called.   Bali Hai or something like that. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That is Bali.   Yeah.   Burydgar Island,   yeah. That that's that's the favorite one that I know of.   Other than that, perhaps,   perhaps   I know.   Taking a weekend vacation   on the SpaceX   rocket   into space.  

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Yeah. Wow.   You think you're gonna hit the space or you're gonna be stuck on the ground forever?  

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Oh, you get to float for 5 minutes.  

[02:04:55] Unknown:

How are you to know? I don't know what it what it tell you and what   what's real.  

[02:05:02] Unknown:

Yeah. They they they they I I believe they tell you you you're in no Earth   orbit or something.  

[02:05:09] Unknown:

But, basically,   it's a comet comet, and you can play for 5 minutes.   Yeah?   Wow. That's also something that we have to deal with, what they say and what's the real truth. But when you say something, doesn't mean it's true. And we see that all the times, of course.   Last two questions for you, David. What's your favorite quote?  

[02:05:32] Unknown:

Favorite?   Quote,   Quote?   Yeah.   Well it's I suppose it's kind of a spiritual one,   from Shakespeare.   And it's,   how did it go?   There were more things   on in heaven   and earth   than in your philosophy.   Yeah?   So   so   yeah. We studied philosophy. We studied leisure   and logic   and we're skeptical,   but also remembering that there are more things   on heaven in heaven and on earth   than you ever know,   than ever   in your philosophy.   Yeah.   I like that one.  

[02:06:32] Unknown:

Yeah.   David, last question.   What's your life's motto?  

[02:06:53] Unknown:

Well, I I'm now I I worked in the army,   so so I I will borrow the motto from my,   my   army days,   which which is pretty good for,   for all all   situations.   Yes? Especially when you're writing a book.   Yes? It says   the impossible   we do   right away. Yeah? If it's impossible,   we'll do it right away. Notebook.   But a miracle   takes a little longer. Here we are. I   Yeah?   So   it's just an attitude. We can do the impossible, but if you want a miracle, it's gonna take a little bit longer.   Hey, I love that.  

[02:07:51] Unknown:

It's something that I really like it because,   we're going to wrap it off now, but it's a beautiful segue into   the spiritual and the mindset   of what we were living on right now.   And just like you say, you can,   have that thought or that motto   with all the things that you encountered,   the challenges, whatever.   Yes. And plus, will you do it right away?  

[02:08:21] Unknown:

Yeah. And if it's a miracle, it's gonna take you a little bit longer. Yeah. We we we want we wanna change the world. And what they say is if you wanna change the world,   change yourself   and you change the world.   Yeah. A 100%.   Yeah. A 100%.   And we can do that right away.   The miracle will be that the world will change   as you change  

[02:08:49] Unknown:

in a better way.   I love the conversation that we had, David. I hope you enjoyed it too.   I do.   Yeah. And and,   shout out to,   to you and to your books. I will put everything in the show description.   It will be probably online tonight.   And tomorrow, I have the time to edit the videos, and it will be on Rumble.   Because sometimes we say some stuff that YouTube doesn't want us to bring out.   That's a fact, that's a fact.   I hope you mentioned it.   Right, right, right. So,   yeah, and   for all the listeners,   thank you for listening to this awesome episode.   And I wish you a beautiful   morning, a beautiful day, or a beautiful evening, no matter where you are, on this beautiful   plain   planet.  

My dreams.   I've been running for all my life   with a devil   on my heels.   He wasn't always kind,   and he couldn't fulfill my dreams.   He's a pain in the ass.   Black as a night,   god   show me the light.   He's a pain in the ass.   Black as a night.   God showed me a light and hope you tied   it.   I'll be running through all my life   with a devil on my heels.