Disorganized Productions "Chaos creates Harmony"

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In this episode of the Disorganized Productions podcast, host Rob takes listeners on a fascinating journey through various topics with special guest Davey Wavey from the Red Pill Cartel podcast. The conversation kicks off with Davey sharing his paranormal experiences, including eerie encounters in his childhood home and the validation he received years later from the current residents. The discussion then shifts to the complexities of gender identity, the influence of psychedelics, and the nature of reality. Rob and Davey also delve into the challenges and rewards of podcasting, the importance of understanding and respecting different perspectives, and the impact of spirituality and belief systems on our lives. With humor and candidness, they explore the intricacies of human experience, making for an engaging and thought-provoking episode.

Listeners will be captivated by the stories of out-of-body experiences, the exploration of the spirit realm through psychedelics, and the deep dive into the nature of good and evil. The episode also touches on the power of manifestation, the role of trauma in shaping our identities, and the importance of being open-minded and curious. Whether you're interested in the paranormal, psychedelics, or the human condition, this episode offers a rich tapestry of insights and reflections.

Join Rob and Davey as they navigate through these compelling topics, offering listeners a blend of personal anecdotes, philosophical musings, and practical wisdom. It's an episode that promises to fuel your spirit, ignite your potential, and help you become the best version of yourself.

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Skip me bridge like squirrel, baby.   What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect   for the law.   Welcome, fellow human, to the disorganized   productions podcast,   the show that fuels your spirit,   ignites your potential,   and helps you become the best version of yourself.   I'm your host, Rob,   and each episode,   we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you, tap into your limitless potential   and conquer life's challenges.   If you want   to   donate to the show to keep the lights going and to make more of this beautiful podcast,   and to put it out,   Please take a look at the Linktree.  

All my links are available. You can donate   on, PayPal,   disorganized productions.   You can, eventually,   subscribe to me or get to the web shop where there's a lot of merchandise available.   It's TeePublic   disorganized   shop, but you will find a link also in the show description.   Yes. And when you wanna talk to me about all the topics that I cover, or you wanna be a guest, please reach out to me, disorganized   [email protected].   Sure.   That's  

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that's how we roll, man.   Just do it right away. Fuck it. Yeah.  

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You know why? Because otherwise you're going to screw it up, right? You have a great conversation, then,   ah, fuck. Got to hit the record button. Yeah, it should have been on the fucking podcast.   Right?   Oh, you know how many times I have that? Just like afterwards or before we're up on a podcast? It's like, all the time for me, man.   Golf.   Just like I just did golf, and I didn't showed it.   That's crazy.  

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It happens as you fly.  

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Yeah.   Good to see you.   You too, man.   I'm going to introduce you very briefly   to our audience, because this is episode   60, whatever. I lost count. I just did a podcast   before,   but   that's, well, that's it.   Today's special guest   is,   Davey Wavey from the Rat Pill Cartel podcast, baby.   Hell, yeah.   Please   introduce yourself to the audience.   Davy.  

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I am a podcaster   from   near Toronto, Canada.   I've been doing this for 3 years now.   I got in how I started was I got invited on somebody else's podcast   and they because they asked me, have you ever had any paranormal experiences? And then I said, yeah. Like, a shit ton of them. And, he got me on, and I relistened to it. I was like, fuck. You know what? I think I could do this.   Right? And then I just started doing it, and I haven't stopped, man. Like, a 160  

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fucking episodes later. Right?   I saw that. Just like, wow.   And,   well, I got to take my notes because   when you're listening to the Rad Pill   Cartel podcast,   it's all about a journey through paranormal,   occult,   spirituality,   conspiracy   theories. Oh,   an interview with independent   artists, and everything in between.   That's it, man. I'm just making a whole variety mishmash of things.  

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I love that. I don't wanna put myself in a box. I wanna hear people's stories. I wanna   hear how artists got to I want that's all the ideas, man. Like, I I love talking to people, so I wanted to get them on and just hear their stories and chime in when I can. You know? And it's like a place where people can come and be as crazy as they wanna be without judgment or anything.  

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Good. That's   exactly what I want to do with this organized   production. I just had a Freemason on   from Caboten, and we talked about it. And   there's a lot of conspiracy going on, of course, also about, oh, this group is the fucked up ones. No, no, you got to look at this group, or look what they do there. Look. And   it's very hard nowadays,   especially when you dig into some rabbit holes,   not to figure out like, oh, that's a sign up.   Oh, that is not true. It's   like   you're walking in a forest, and everybody says, oh, it's a haunted forest. But all of a sudden, like, poof, there it goes, the other goes, poof, there's another one, poof. She's like, what's happening? I don't know. But everything is unfolding.   Yeah.  

Tell me about your paranormal   encounters, because I had some too. I was hopping on Shane Jones podcast, but we screwed up. Just we always, I thought that we're going to screw up today. Like,   the fuck is he? I was waiting in my room, sending you a message.   And just   like, Oh, wait, you're in the room? Where the fuck are you, man?  

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I clicked on the original link, and then it said it was trying to redirect me. So I clicked on that, and then it wasn't   odd at all. It was fucked up. But we're here anyway, so  

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Yeah. And you've got to do a lot of shit when you do podcasts. It's not only   like sending a link like, Okay, here, we're on Zoom. No, we've got to add it. We got to do the stuff like video editing. Your videos also are on TikTok,   Rumble, I think,  

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right?   I put TikTok,   snippets of the show on TikTok.   Right. And the full episodes on YouTube.   On YouTube. You still can be on YouTube?   Somehow, I'm   I don't get any e's on there, but somehow I'm still there.  

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Me neither, but I got the badge of, you know, like, oh, you talked about some shit that we don't wanna bring you out.  

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I think it's because I saw I started doing video, like, later on, like, maybe a 125   episodes in, because because that's when people started say saying like, oh,   I wanna watch your   podcast. And I'm like, I don't I'm more of an audio guy. Right? Right. But so many people started asking me for videos. I'm like, fuck it. Okay. More work, but, you know, here it is.  

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I was there in for like, 40 episodes of stuff like that, and then all of a sudden just like this message,   reality comes   closer,   and you're going to have this blush on your face, and you're just like, oh, oh my God, I screwed up so many policies.   What did I do?   We talked about the fake vaccine.   Oh my   God,  

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kill that guy.   Crucify him. Crucify him. Yeah.  

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But, hey, here I am still on the platform.  

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I like to get like, it doesn't matter if it gets edgy or not. I just talk about like, talk freely about   when I think,   and and I allow others to do the same, whoever comes on. Right? So   if they hit me for that, so be it.   But my audio is there all the time anyway. That's where the bulk of my listeners are, the audio. Right? So  

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Right.   I I had some,   advanced shit going on. I was talking to Claude, the producer of The Furmanental,   and he taught me a way through how to do it. Because I was already   doing stuff with Zoom, just I recorded it right now, I got the audio file, I got   the video file, but then you've got to edit it. Right? So it sounds good, stuff like that. So what I'm going to do is after the show, I'm going to take the audio file.   I'm going to put it into,   TinyWow   MP4   to MP3,   because otherwise other programs don't recognize it.   I'd rather put it into Audacity where I'm gonna cut the pieces like 1 hour.  

Then I going to do it in enhanced   audio with Abobe, so it sounds like a studio kind of fancy shit.   And then, I eventually have to cut it in cut,   cap cut,   put all the stuff in there. Yeah. Yeah. With my intro, with my outro, and then there you got.   You do more than me, man. I just fucking let it go and fucking post   it. Yeah.   I used to do that, but I think that the quality,   what I got now, when you're listening, even when I listening to my own episodes, which I really do not like, but sometimes I have to, because I have a guest for a second part and stuff like that.   It makes a tremendous,   really tremendous difference between the normal audio that we were gonna record right now and when it's in enhanced and all that stuff.  

It sounds like you're in the studio.   Right. You do fancy shit, which you don't have, but the software allows you to do that.   Right. Right.   It's helping me out because   when people are listening to shit So,   the video file, like we're going to record right now, I'm not going to edit that shit. I'm just gonna put my, front, my back end, so the intro and the, the outro, that's it. You know, just here, here you got it.   And there are beautiful faces, I'll spread it a little bit.   But,   I'm into   pothome.   Fm, if I'm not, yes, yes, fm,   which allows me to   put censored   content out whenever I want.  

So, the reason is that why I'm recording is because now I had a Freemason on,   but there will be future shows where, on Thursday, I will have someone on that's gonna   tell us about the government   and Hollywood involved in satanic   rituals and cults,   and he has proof.   Okay. So that's something like   not everyone wants to get that on. But   because I can be censored, so Apple could say, Fuck you, Rob. I'm not gonna put this episode on. But if you go to podhome.fm   and you search for the Zora Ash Productions, you will see and you will listen to my episode.   I'm a walking middle finger with love. So you got like a backup plan.  

Yes. You always need a plan. Just like Hannibal   from the a team. I love it when I'm you know? You know?   But please tell me about your, encounters. And by the way, it's fucking hot here in the Netherlands.  

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It's hot here too, man. Cheers.  

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That's- Yeah,  

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so long as it's 3:30 pm, so I'm not day drinking.  

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Well, it's 5 o'clock somewhere.  

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Okay. Well,   it all started when I was living in this house   back in,   god, the late eighties, early nineties.   I was about 10 or 11 years old when I had my first experience.   My brother I have 3 older brothers and an older sister.   So my youngest   brother next to me, 7 years older than me, he joined the military and he moved out, and his room was in the basement.   And so when he moved out,   I took all my shit from upstairs and put it downstairs because I wanted a big room. Right? Right.   So,   I stayed down there the 1st night. It was all good. And the 2nd night I was I stayed down there,   I had my just hit the pillow.  

Turned the light off, hit the pillow, and my dog was at the foot of my bed.   And, I was laying there for maybe 5 minutes. I wasn't even tired yet. I was just kinda winding down,   and I heard a voice directly in my ear.   And it said it was very deep and   and stern and disembodied.   And it said the word crack.   Oh, shit.   Yeah. It it just sounded like crack,   and I froze for about 20 seconds.   Like, say like, so many things were going through my head. I was like, what the fuck was that? What the fuck was that? And I whipped the covers off my bed, and I ran up 2 flights of stairs to my parents' bedroom. And I   I fucking jumped right in between them, and I was, like, shaking like a leaf, man. Oh. But it didn't   yeah.  

It was crazy. Like, I was terrified. And then the night after that, I fucking moved all my shit right back upstairs to my old room   like an old person would do. Right? Yeah. Because I was like, I'm now fucking sleeping with whatever's down there now. Right?   But I kept it I kept it as a gaming room,   after that.   So, like, if I had friends over or whatever or myself, I just played video games down there or whatever. Right? In a day line.   Yeah.   And and then so   I don't know how we how long after   the first incident was,   but I'm sitting downstairs, and I'm playing a game. I'm gonna listen to music.  

And I hear from the top of the stairs, my mom call my name.   She said, David.   So I   walked upstairs.   I looked in the living room, and I saw my mom sitting there. She's watching TV.   I said, yeah. What's up, mom? She's like,   what? I'm like, you called me. She's like, no. I didn't.   I'm like, okay.   I didn't think anything of it, so I just went back downstairs. So I continued   playing games, and I heard it again, like, 5 minutes later. I'm like, what the fuck? So I went upstairs.   She's still sitting there watching TV. I'm like, mom, why are you calling me? She's like, I'm not calling you.   I'm like, okay. That's fucking weird. Right? So then I go back down, and another 5 minutes later   5, 10 minutes later, I hear it again, but this time, I was like,   damn it. And I was like, oh, I dropped my fucking controller, didn't do anything, just ran upstairs   and sat in the in the living room with my mom, and I didn't say a fucking word.  

Woah.   Because it wasn't her voice the third time. It was like an angry fucking thing.   Right. But the first two times, it sounded like your mom. It did. Yeah. Look, it was mimicking my mom, and then the third time, it was like an angry fucking   disembodied voice.  

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Oh, shit. Yeah. I'm like, who- Who- figure out what happened in the basement,   what kind of entity that could be?  

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So   I have   a very good friend that I met through podcasting. I had her on a couple times.   Her name is Born Awake Oracle,   and she was like I I showed her pictures of the house because I drove by it and took pictures and everything. Right? Showed it to her, and she she sensed   some kind of, like,   what she she told me she saw a guy in, like,   a a lumber jacket,   and he had, like, hardly any teeth,   and he was pissed off   or something. I don't know, man, but it was I don't know what it means. That's what she told me. Right? So I don't know. I'm not a seer or anything. So I don't know. Right. But,   well, okay. So the 3rd time,   my   brother who had left to go to the military, he got married. He was married already,   but   him and his wife came to visit,   and everybody went to bingo.  

We all went to bingo except for   me and her. She was looking after me while they went.   And so we were playing cards in,   like, the dining room area,   and   the way it was set up was the dining room was right next to the kitchen, open concept.   Right. And then there was a wall, like an L shaped wall,   and then the living room was in there.   But we had, like, these these western you know those western doors that open like this, like a saloon?   Yeah. So we had that going from the kitchen to the living room. Right?   And so we're playing cards, and she said, I'm thirsty. Wanna grab a drink? So I grabbed her a drink. I gave it to her. She said, thank you. And right after she said, thank you, we heard from the living room. Thank you.   That disembodied deep voice again.  

So we somebody else heard it with me, thank God.   And she grabbed me by the hand and she said, did you just hear that? I said, yeah. Uh-huh.   And she had my hand really tight and we went to the living room and we looked in there and nothing was there. And she said, Let's go sit outside on the porch and wait for everybody to get home.  

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I said, Yeah. Okay. Oh, shit.  

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Yeah. Those are my main three encounters.   And years later when because this was pre internet,   right? Mhmm. Early nineties.   And so   my brother and her ended up getting a divorce. They had 2 kids, got a divorce,   but I found her on Facebook, and I reminded her of that time.   And I said, do you remember that time when we heard that voice in the living room when she flat out just said, nope. That didn't happen?   Ohio. Total denial.   And I've asked the question to so many people,   why would she deny that? Like, I vividly remember her being there and this experience happening. Right. What most people say is they don't wanna acknowledge the   the other side. They don't wanna acknowledge that there's something more to   what we have in this reality, right? Paul Offit (2five zero six): Right.  



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Did you ever figure out   what could   happen in that house? Because   probably that lumberjack   guy was killed or  

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stuck in You know what, man? I've looked into I went to the library. I went to look for to the city hall. I went to look for documents. I found fucking nothing.   Wow. Like a mystery.   However, when we moved out of there in the early nineties,   we I moved, like, 4 or 5 times after that. Right?   But,   these stories,   these experiences stuck with me for my whole life.   And I I would always every now and then, I would drive by the house and just see if anybody was there. Right. And I could never I could never find anybody   sitting outside or anything.  

It just looked like it was okay. There's a couple cars in the driveway, but I don't   saw I drove by again.   And this time, I saw a car   with the trunk open and all 4 doors open. I'm like, somebody's   unpacking their shit.   I'm gonna this is my opportunity. Right? Right. So I didn't wanna over the over the years when I drove by, I didn't wanna just go knock up on the door and seem like a fucking weirdo. Right? Mhmm.   So, anyway, this is my opportunity,   and there's this one guy   and his sister,   younger sister,   and I approached him and I told him my story. I said I'm a podcaster. I do paranormal stuff, this and that. He said,   oh. And I told him, I said, I used to live in this house.  

He's like, really? I said, yeah. Like, early nineties, I moved out. He said, that's when we moved in, and I grew up in this house.   I said, okay.   Now I have to ask you some questions.   Right?   So I told him about my experiences,   and his sister was listening in. And he's like, dude, that's crazy. I don't believe in any of this shit, but my sister does here. Right?   And his sister had a big smile on her face,   and she she came up to me and told told me the stories of what happened to her there.   So I'm getting super excited because I'm like, this is fucking validation for me, like, pure validation. Right? Right.   After wondering for so many years. Right?  

And she told me that one time she's upstairs in the washroom. She's brushing her hair, and she feels   a hand brush the small of her back.   And she looked back. She's like, what the fuck? Right? Right. Another time another time, she's just standing in the basement, and she hears in her ear.   Like, yeah. The voice fucking told her like, said her name. Right? And I was like, holy shit. And she said,   so I gave them my,   my podcasting poll, my Instagram, and everything, and they said that they had an older sister.   So it was a couple days later.  

I went home. A couple days later, I got a message on Instagram from   this girl. She said, Hey, are you the one that used to live in my house?   So it was their older sister. They told her about me. Right? Right. I said, Yeah. I said, Yeah. I said,   I'm so curious as to   what you've experienced. She's like, so much shit has happened to me in this house.   It's crazy.   And she never told me anything. And this was, like,   almost 3 years ago now. I said, come on the podcast and tell me your story.   Right? And she was willing,   and then   she started ghosting me. She wouldn't fucking talk to me after that.  

She wouldn't I guess I asked bored awake Oracle about it. She said,   I think maybe she just doesn't wanna talk about it to stir up the energy in the house because she still lives there. Right?   So, yeah, it was,   something else.   Yeah.   It's nice. I I did get that validation,   so that's really all I'm concerned about.   But I really do wanna fuck. I even messaged her again after she goes to me. I said, Look, if you don't wanna come in the podcast and expose yourself, that's fine, but I'd really like to meet up for a coffee or something   just to hear your stories. Like, I'm not creeping here. You know? Right. Right. But but she wouldn't respond to me then.  

Wow. What do you think  

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that   it is with these paranormal   encounters? Is it something like   we normally not see, but when we're   in an emotional state or when we have some energy that they can dig into us?  

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I think   the more the less filters we have in our brain, the more we believe in them.   Uh-huh. The more we're able to experience them because I was, like, 10 years old at the time.   So I had less filters.   I was still kind of scared of sleeping with the light off.   Yeah.   Because you always have that thing in the back of your mind, like, oh, what if something pops out of my fucking closet and I can't see it because it's dark. Right? Yeah. Just stupid shit. Like, when you're a kid, that's what you think about. Right?   But, yeah, I think the less filters that you have in your mind, the more you're gonna be susceptible to experiencing it. Mhmm.  

I did have a few more as I got older.   You know, I had one with my my my buddy and my my best friend at the time.   And, again, we're at school, and we go home we go to his place   for lunchtime,   and,   we're sitting there playing a game, 2 players,   and his door is facing us to the left. Right?   And all of a sudden, man, his door was open and just slowly started to to close, and it slammed   shut. And the the fucking doorknob pushed in and locked turned and locked.   And we dropped our shit, and we were trying to fucking open the door. We're like, what the fuck? Do you what the fuck? We finally got it open, and we just ran downstairs, put our shoes on, and went back to school.  

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Oh, man. He had shit going on in his house too.  

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It was so strange.   I would be I would be going to his place and sometimes he would say, yo, Dave, can you go downstairs and grab me this thing on the table? And I'm like, fuck.   And I would quickly run down the stairs and grab whatever it was he wanted and run back up because I always felt something was there. Right? Right.   Yeah. It was crazy, man. I was talking to,  

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Nathaniel Gilles about it. I had 2 thoughts. Coming on  

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He's coming on my show in the 12. All excited for that. You're going to love that guy.  

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It's one of the best podcasts,   especially because   in the field that he dives into,   and he knows a lot about. And we're talking about   a lot of stuff.   And I was talking to Snake, I think it was today or yesterday,   that I said, it's really strange that   we, as a human, have such a small spectrum that we can see.   But when you use psychedelics,   which I did in the past, I will do in the future.   Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah.   There is something like   it's like the brain is going to   show you,   well, it feels like that the psychedelics   are showing you the other worlds.  

And   probably   what we see as a reality   is layer, upon layer, upon layer. But we can only see one layer. And all the other layers, like   demons or whatever.   And of course, of course, it's good and bad.   Also with entities, of course.   We can see that   when we use psychedelics,   which is very fascinating to me.   Also   the timestamp,   like, when something happened in the past, like a battlefield.   Right?   A normal person, if you will ask someone like, okay, you can build a house wherever you want, you're going to get the money   for free,   but   it's on a very old cemetery.  

Would you? Would you build a house there?   No. I wouldn't.   For sure.  

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You know? Every fucking every fucking movie where there's, like,   evil spirit or, like, a poltergeist like, poltergeist the movie poltergeist.   Right? It was built on an ancient bear Indian burial ground and,   well, not an Indian burial ground, but there were it was a graveyard, and they took the headstones away, but they didn't remove the bodies.   Right.   So,  

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don't build your shit on fucking cemeteries, man.   No.   This is one point you   gotta get from this podcast. Don't do that.   And it's really straight   well, it fascinates me because I like to look   at YouTube at Tim Mordsoft and Dark Ghost, which are 2 of these   haunted house explorers and haunted   stuff, and they put on the EVF,   EMF,   and, cameras and stuff like that, and they encounter some real fucking shit. I would freak the fuck out.   Eventually, when I went walking, we have small forests. It's not like Canada and stuff like that. You know, it's not like,   a big forest.  

But I always have this feeling when, when, when it, when it's going to shimmer, when the sun gets down,   get out of there.   And it's, it's something like I got a hammock. I got all the equipment   to camp   in the woods, in a forest, but somehow I always have this feeling like   I'm not allowed there. Just like the sea,   I'm not allowed there.   Mountains?   No, no.   Forests   in darkness,   no. Freedom that don't wanna be   at night or whatever.   The sea is not our   That's not nothing for us. We can   No.  

[00:29:35] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't know what it is about these places, but   there's just something there. It's like it like when you said, you don't belong there,   and they whatever's there doesn't want you there either.   That's the point.  

[00:29:52] Unknown:

Even when you walk down with some music in   your ears, just like, Oh, I'm going to cross this path. It's like maybe 1 mile or 2 miles in the woods.   And there's freeways here around it. So, it's not like you're going to get lost. Right? There are some woods in the meadows that you can get lost because   they're big, you don't know the way. But it feels like,   even if it's just an animal   that   scatters away from you, just like, Oh, shit.   Or you hear that sound, like, what's that sound? And of course,   your own brain is going to make you fucking mad.   Of course, yeah. Yeah. But still then, when you are just like, oh no, I'm normal.  

I make myself crazy.   That shit happens, you know, just like a dove that flies away and stuff like that, or a squirrel, or branches that cracks, just like hosts shit.  

[00:30:47] Unknown:

What the fuck was that? Yeah, exactly.   So that dog, fuck me. There could be just a fucking   small little animal stepping out of twig.   Just like that. You never know. Right.   The thing the thing that I'd got out of those experiences, though, and I talk to people all the time about this, I feel like   the creator allowed that to happen to me so that I was able to wake up later on.   Right. It's almost like he was handpicking me   to be like   like, I'm not I don't feel like I'm very fucking special or anything. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just a drop in the pond, but   it feels like he allows things to happen to certain people in order for them to wake up and be a voice for other people.  



[00:31:32] Unknown:

I do really think about that a lot.   And,   especially   like you said, I'm not special, but there are some gifts that have been given to me   so I can share that with the world. Just like the little communicating with you in Canada, I know about a little bit about technical stuff, so I can hook   on   on a call. I can edit the audio,   but I also can communicate a bit in English and in German and in Dutch, which gives me a lot of audience   where I can talk to with a lot of people I can talk to. So I,   it's not like,   oh, now I can be the host.   And everyone is the host.  

It depends on where the conversation goes to. Right?   But that's a learning lesson for me,   but also for the listeners   to dig into some topics and   to   dig into the person behind a podcast,   behind   Freemason,   whatever.   We shared briefly about that,   with the Freemason, who he is and stuff like that. But I really was fascinated by the aspect of freemasonry,   of course. But with the paranormal also,   I had some unconscious that I really can't explain.   I was looking outside with my girlfriend at the time,   to the night sky. And of course, there's a lot of light blur right here. But we could see the stars and stuff like that, really cool.   That all of a sudden, there was this flash   from the universe, like someone took a picture with a fucking   huge, big flash cam. From out of space, it's like,   like, what the fuck was that?  

And it wasn't like,   falling star or whatever. And, I was looking it up. Well, that was probably a supernova exploding.   Right. No, this was like a flash.   It wasn't like a bang or whatever. You know, I couldn't explain it.   And,   once I had an encounter   with my stoned   bodies, and I was stoned too, but  

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I can still tell it to today what happened. It was like Dude, if you're having an encounter when you're high, I would have been like, fucking heart attack city.  

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Oh, yeah. But we were just laughing. It's like, what the fuck is going on here? There was a,   a peasant,   a hare,   and a crow   sitting   beside each other, like,   with the backs to us,   looking in a field. And in a field, there was this little   orange light shimmering.   And we're just like, what the fuck is that? Because there were 3 animals   that normally don't go together   sitting Right.   Right next to each other. It's like, what the fuck is that? Right? So And you're behind me, like, what the fuck is that? Yeah.   Dude,   what the fuck did we just smoke, right? What the hell is this? We want more of that.  

Right? So   eventually,   I think it was like,  

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long You were to get your weed for a minute. Like  

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a minute or so, the animals just like,   it seemed like they were   awakening.   Just like, Oh, what the fuck? Oh, oh, there's a crow. There's a peasant. Oh,   I got to go do my hairy thing, right? And stuff like that. So, they went away. And I said, Oh.   So, we were thinking about what the fuck did we just see? Not only the animals, but what was that light? Because the light was still there.   So we thought, oh, that was maybe like this electric fence,   and it contacts.   So there there will be something   like that shimmering going on. Maybe they were watching one of their animal friends roasting.   Right. Right? Like   the fly on  

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the surface of things like that. And you guys don't whizz on the electric fence.   Exactly,   but   I went into  

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that Greenland,   there was   no wire,   nothing,   nothing.   So just like, okay,   okay, that was strange. Right?   I think   15 years later,   not that long ago, like 3 years ago, I was walking around here in the neighborhood,   and I saw the same fucking light   on the end of a   gravel path,   just like a firefly,   right?   So, I took out my camera.   It was gone. I said, okay. Of course. All right. Yeah. So I took back my camera in my pocket,   and all of a sudden it started to flow again. Just like, I'm   going to show you the weight. So, I was walking very quietly   towards that, and it was getting darker and darker.  

But then all of a sudden, I realized nothing here   could eventually be that. And a firefly,   yeah, you can see that, you know, and you can see that's a fire. There was like an energy bulb.   It was so fucking strange.   And I had, I think it was 2 out of body experiences,   which were Okay. Tested too. Yeah. I've also had those.   Wow. Was it a volt wound accident?  

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No. It was just purely   just happened while it was, like, half in half out of sleep.   Wow.   Have you ever slept out of that? Yeah.   Yeah. I was 13 years old. I went to go visit my brother   in Ottawa, Canada   for and it was Christmas morning. We got there, like, 5 or 6 in the morning.   And as soon as we got there, we kinda, like,   opened gifts and stuff like that. Right?   And then after that, we had a little bit of food and then I went to go take a nap.   And I'm in his basement, and I'm napping,   and   rewind   about half the year before that,   Friend of mine was talking about philosophy. He has a he was in the philosophy class   and how he had out of body experience,   and his teacher his philosophy teacher told them how to how to trigger it.  

And he said, you picture a beam of light from your forehead to the tips of your toes, and you gotta be half in and half out of consciousness.   So for some reason, when I was taking that nap, I was half in, half out,   and that popped into my mind. And I did it just out of the blue in my mind's eye. I pictured that beam of light from my forehead and tips of my toes,   and it was just so sudden. It was just like,   boom. Everything opened up. My eyes are still closed.   Everything was black and white. I could hear my heartbeat go   and over the over top of that sound, I could hear what sounded like radio static   when you're, like, switching the knobs on the radio going to, like, the higher and lower frequencies,   and I'm floating up to the top to the stairs. I go up the stairs.  

I go around the corner, and then suddenly   I got this terrified feeling,   like, what the fuck is going on? And I went, shit,   back to my body, and I went, woah. What the fuck was that?   Wow.   Yeah.   Yeah. It's crazy. I've talked to people about the whole black and white radio static thing, And they said you can't hear   on that frequency because you're in your body still. Like, you're still in your body. So your senses are hearing what your spirit is feeling   and sense are,   you can't   your human body can't   experience those frequencies, so you're gonna get radio solid radio static because   it's in the ether. Right?  

Right.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   It's wild, won't it?  

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Yeah. I was in the hospital, and   I had a surgery on my intestines. It took 35 centimeters out.   Oh.   And   just before I woke up,   I saw myself lying there,   just like, Oh, there the fuck you are.   And it was just like,   I didn't feel my body   yet.   But I knew for sure that's me lying there,   like vivid,   like reality, right?   And, I think seconds   when I realized   like, wait a minute, what I'm doing up here,   I got back in my body and I woke up.   Completely confused, just like, woah, woah.  

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Did you see color or was it black and white? No, it was color.  

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Okay.   But,   but,   2 years ago,   it was with   Christmas time.   It's a crazy story, too.   And there are some drugs involved, too.   But I had   normal times, Christmas times, I do that very sudden, not too much people and stuff like that. I celebrated my own.   And,   I was telling my girlfriend   because we laugh   a lot, like, oh, something is snapping in my fucking body, like in my intestines. So I was a little bit worried.   Went home.   The other day, I had a   I was at my friend's house,   and we said, okay,   with Christmas time, we normally do like a trip, like mushrooms   or maybe some LSD and stuff like that, just   enjoying   Christmas time. Sure.  

Yeah.   So we did that. And,   that whole day, I had some stomach pain. But I thought like, okay,   don't bother because it will float away eventually,   and do a lot of breathing. So,   I could   get a grip on that.   So what happened is that,   all of a sudden for my friend, the trip kicked in.   But with me,   the trip   didn't kick in,   not like it used to   do. But I felt that my,   intestines   were, it was just like pounding more and more into, like,   birth pains. Like,   you know, it started to- Like throbbing?   Yes.   Yeah. I would have been freaking out.   Yeah, well, I did. Well, but I knew that somehow I wasn't   like on the asset that I used to be like,   virtual stuff or feelings. Just like, it was something like that was real. It was not like the trip, because I failed it the day before.  

But then all of a sudden,   it came back in my mind like, fuck, maybe   you fucked up again   and you're gonna die.   So-  

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What's he doing that in your head? You're fucked. Yeah.  

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Yeah, you can say that. So I told my friend, like, oh, I'm feeling really, really not good. What I'm going to do is I'm going to take a trip outside.   I'm going to walk into the fresh air,   and I'm going home. And,   he, all of a sudden,   came back to reality a little bit because he was worried about me,   said, no, no, no, man, I'm gonna drive you home. So I said, yeah, that's a good plan with 2 LSD trips in your fucking mouth, right?   Well, he said, No, I'm sober.   And it was just a little small, small drive. So, we got in the car, and the pain started to get more and more. And I was   breaking the fuck out, like,   shit.  

Maybe I screwed up too much. And a lot of things were going on in my head. So, what we did, we went to my girlfriend's house at the time   and I rang, well, I messaged her, are you home? She said, yeah, it's fucking Christmas.   I'm here   with my daughter.   I said, oh, okay. She said, where are you? I said,   I'm in the front of your house, sitting in the car with, with my friend.   She said, Why don't you come in? I said,   because   I   couldn't die.   Couldn't die,   right?   So what happened then is that, she said, oh, fuck off. Come on, get in. She took care of her daughter that she could go to grandma, which is living down the street.   They took me in, and they were very fucking worried about me because I was not tripping my balls off, but I felt really a lot of pain. And you can ask my girlfriend,   normally I can, when my heart rate is up, I can bring that down within the few seconds or maybe in a minute. I can   relax breathing because I I've been through some pains. Right? But this somehow felt so fucked up and so strange. So what happens is   they asked me, should we call a doctor?  

No.   Should we call an ambulance?   No, I'm fine. I'm dying here, right here. I don't need anything of that. For how they did, they called an ambulance.   The ambulance came within 10 minutes.   I was   very, very   glad that they did that, because I thought, I'm really going to fucking die here, because of the pain. I never felt that pain, like the throbbing all the fucking time.   So what they did is they light me in the car. I probably would have I probably thought I was having a heart attack or something. No, it was really in my stomach. It was not in my stomach. My stomach. Heart. 100%.   So they light me on a brand car, put me in the ambulance,   gave me Ketamine   to ease the pain.  

Okay.   Yeah.   And we drove off to the hospital.   My girlfriend in the car in the back. I don't really   know about that because I passed out because of the ketamine.   But   all of a sudden, I wake up,   and I see myself   lying there in the ambulance.   Right?   And   it was pitch dark around me.   And I could see like the stripes on the road, like the, we got white stripes, like a white stripe down the road, and then a white stripe, like a flickering,   right? Yeah.   So   I saw at that time only black and white,   only black and white. I saw these lights flashing by all the time, constantly.   And then I felt like I need to make a decision.  

While I'm thinking about that, I'm looking at myself lying there, just like you're fucking dead.   But you gotta make a decision. All of a sudden, the stripes weren't straight,   but they went very slowly. And then it was like,   a crossroad   like this.   And then I had to decide   yes or no, you're gonna live or you're gonna die.   Once I said, fuck, I got so much things to do, I wouldn't live.   It was like you said,   back in the body, and I woke up in the ambulance,   and the brother looked at me just said, it's gonna be all right. 5 minutes and we're in the hospital. It's like, what the   fuck just happened, man?  

We go to the hospital,   I got morphine,   I   got codeine,   And what was the other app? I don't know what it was. But now comes the story. I was waiting there for 2 hours. I would investigate it, and they searched me and stuff like that, what could be there. It probably was an aftertaste. So there was, I didn't went to the toilet for quite a while, and stuff like that. I was Okay. Fucking up myself, you know, self destruct. This is shit.   It was just the shit I was holding in, right? So   after 2 hours, I got out of the hospital,   my girlfriend's car,   I walked outside.  

And I said, well, I just   go into the driver's seat. Right? She said, what the fuck are you doing?   I said, what?   I'm fine.   You know? I can drive. She said, Yeah, but you had morphine.   You had codeine.   You had   this and that. I said, Yeah, and I had a trip. She said, What?   I said, Yeah, we started out with the trip. But I said, I don't like this trip at all.   So when I said that, and I was   hopping on the driver's seat, a police car came by, and she said, Rob,   you got to be aware of all the signs from the universe. This is not a good sign. Let me drive. I said, okay. Okay.   So, the thing is,   if you listen to the story, oh,   you were feeling that because you were on drugs.  

No, 100%   not.   You were   feeling that, or you were having that experience because you used LSD. I know when a   trip kicks in and what it does to me, to my reality, to my vision.  

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Yeah. I think the feeling that you're experiencing  

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overrided the trip. Oh, 100%.   Yeah. Like if you go to someone who is really fucking drunk, and you tell him, like, your dad passed away, something like that, he's- boom, you're sober.   Dad,   100%.   100%.   So I was 100% convinced that I wasn't   tripping my balls off or whatever, because that's a different reality.   That's like, Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. I took LSD,   I'm in a hospital and I'm tripping my fucking balls off.   Right?   That makes sense.   For sure. What doesn't make sense is that I had 2 days   or one day before   stomach pain.  

The day that it went before the trip, I had stomach pain. Is it okay? This is not something like you have to try at home. Let me try it.   Yeah. Try it. I   will tell you my experience about it.   And then you don't have to try it. You know?  

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Definitely. So now you could be some sort of a messenger for other people. Yes.   Yeah.   I've only done acid once.   How was that? One   time when I was 4 13 or 14. Oh, fuck.   Just like, oh, high school, you know, or something like that. Yeah. I didn't I didn't even touch fucking marijuana before it.   I I was I had I got drunk a couple times,   and I'm at the fucking mall, which I can see from my window right now.   Same mall, and my my best friend's there, and he's walking beside me, And he's   like, hey, Dave.   Put this on your tongue for, like, 5 minutes, and you'll feel like you're drunk. And, like,   cocaine.  

Right? And I still remember the little piece of paper.   It was orange, and it had a little black Mexican sombrero on it. Right.   So I'm like, okay.   Did that.   And then   half an hour later,   we're we go into the arcade.   And   I'm feeling funny, and I'm starting to see shit.   And   the floor, the carpeting was   dark blue and gray checkered   pattern.   And I'm fucking walking   in between the fucking   squares because it looked like one was higher and one was lower.   Right? So I'm walking in between them. Right? I'm trying to let the trip on the carpet.  

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Right.  

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I see my buddy   sitting in the afterburner game, which is a jet a jet game.   And you sit in it and it's it moves and shit. And he's he's tripping balls too, and he's like, dude, I can't believe I'm fucking flying an airplane right now. Right? It's hilarious.   I'm like, holy shit.   And then we started   we went   down the street from the mall   to some other store,   and we're looking at the the stuff on the shelves.   And then the guy working there is looking at us, And I'm like, dude, he probably knows we're fucking   fucked up right now. Right? Right.   And then we left there, and then we saw   encountered a bunch of other people we knew from high school, and we're just, like, what the fuck's going on? And we went back to the mall to meet up with our other friends, and that's when I started peeking.  

And I was like, holy fuck. And the mall closed,   all the lights were off, and I'm fucking freaking out. I'm like, why are all the fucking lights off right now? And they're like, dude, it's closed. I'm like, oh, shit.   So then we walked down to this t shirt store, and the guy running it knew we were all tripping.   And he fucking takes out this poster,   and he puts a black light on it, and it's like a spiral. And he's like he's saying to all of us, we're just staring at this poster. And he's like, you are now entering   the twilight zone. Alright. Fuck.  

We're we're all just like, what the fuck?   And then we got out of there. We went   we're walking down the street. We heard about this party that's going on,   and I see the built the high rises in the background, and they're just fucking waving back and forth like this.   And I'm like, holy shit. These buildings are waving like flags.   This is, like, my experience. Right?   And then we saw a license plate on a car that said,   w   e e d a d, and we were all laughing at it. We're like, is it is that say we dad or is he a weed dealer or is he a weed dad? Right? Right. We're all just fucking dying laughing.   We get to this party, and I don't know what the fuck's all going on.  

I had to go,   like, kinda   tripping it out a little too much, so I went outside to get some air.   And I had this gumball. I put it in my mouth. I started chewing it.   And I closed my eyes,   and in my mind's eye, I could see the gum   shaping while I was chewing it. Right. Like, that's in my mind's eye. I'm like, holy shit. My buddy comes out. He's like, Dave, what the fuck are you doing? I'm like,   I'm just watching my gum beating too, dude. It   was so crazy. But that night, like, I was kinda freaking out a little bit. My buddy, who is more experienced, he said said, Dave, just fucking breathe, relax,   calm down, and enjoy   the high because that's all it is. You're just high. You just relax and enjoy. And after he said that, I was like,   alright. Cool. And then just enjoy the ride. Right? Right.  

But after that, I was like, all my friends were still doing it like every weekend and I was like, fuck that. I'm just gonna drink.   Like, I don't wanna deal with that shit.   But it did allow me to expand my consciousness enough to know that   the fucking   material world that we're living in is is   it's   it is real, but it's it's not the true reality, I don't think. I think the true reality is the spirit realm.   Yeah.  

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I think well, this is the We're allowed to have experiences   of that spiritual realm through the psychedelics.   Exactly.   It shows you   what   is probably there. Because   I was pointed out at one of the prior podcasts,   if I would take an asterisk right now, I know this environment, blah,   or different   blah, or different.   But sometimes you really see some things like that's not fucking real, right?   Right? It's like,   and of course, it's the same if you walk in a forest,   in a dark forest. Just like, oh, I made myself crazy. But when the acid takes over, you close your eyes, you see this   caloridian,   what's it called? All these,   caloridistic,  

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Like a kaleidoscope?  

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Yeah, kaleidoscope. Yeah, yeah, yeah.   Where you see that when you close your eyes, or where you see complete movie   unfolding in front of your eyes   Mhmm.   That's so   just like, woah.  

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Dude, just, I think it was last week or a week and a half ago,   I posted in the in the Telegram chat.   I said, Has any of you guys ever had   You go to sleep   and it's   one whole fucking movie plot is playing out.   And then   I wake up from it,   I go grab some water, I come back, I go to sleep and it fucking   continues.  

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Wow.   No. Yeah.  

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That's how I know I'm sleeping good.   Right?  

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But the thing is,   the moment you wake up, you sound like, holy shit, what did I just rant?   Right? But then you   go through your routine of the day,   and it's fading away, you're fading away, and it's- It's fading away, yeah. Right. But then also- You remember certain things, but not the whole thing. Yeah, but sometimes you just have throughout the day,   you   got this fission light in this dream, like, woah. Like a flashback.   Like a flashback.   Just like, holy shit. And sometimes I really have to realize,   like, was this reality or dream? Right, right. Now comes it. I had talked   about that   with Snake.  

Fucking fascinating.   People that get into a coma,   they could put into a natural coma,   or they could be in an environment where they're gonna put them in a coma.   Mhmm. These people,   when they wake up,   they all of a sudden,   there are some some people that say that they learned a completely different language, or speak a different language,   or that they woke up and say, like, where the fuck am I? I got a family back there.   Right. They lived a completely different reality   while they were, for us, they were sleeping,   but they had a completely different reality.  

What the fuck is that? And it's not on asset. It's not on on on whatever.  

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That's fascinating.   I feel that you're just   wandering the sphere of realm, but you're not fucking   ready to be there yet.   And some people don't make it out of their coma. They pass away. Maybe if they have a decision   in there, like you had a decision when you had your astral projection. Yeah. You've had a decision, yes or no. And some people choose no. Fuck. I'm gonna stay here.   Right.   Possibly.   I mean, do you know the band? Do you know the the rock band called Mars Volta?  

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Mars Volta? I heard about it. I'd never dig into it.  

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Their first album that they released was called,   fuck.  

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Can't remember what it was called, but Oh, yeah. On podcast. It's saying with deloused.  

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It was called deloused in the comatorium,   and   the cover hides house, like, a operating table, and on top of the operating table was this golden head   facing up with its mouth open, and a big ray of light is coming out.   And the whole album is was written it's a whole theme   about what their one of their best friends experienced while he was in a coma.   Wow. I I don't think You gotta listen to that, Al. He's fucking amazed.  

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The thing is,   is that what we see now,   reality,   or   are our dreams   several dimensions of our   reality because we can create more? So the Aboriginals, I think the Aboriginals say that, that when you wake up in a normal world,   that's not reality.   You are in the spiritual realm when you're dreaming because you can Right. You can do anything you want.  

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Yeah. If you're if you're having a lucid dream, I have that very frequently,   It's like   I'm just like, oh, I I think I can fly. And next day I know, I'm fucking lifted off the ground, and I'm I'm like, I'm a little scared. And then I I tell myself, don't be scared. Just keep going. And then I start flying fucking faster.   And one one time I was   flying through,   I was chasing a train with box cars, and I was, like, flying through the box cars and up over the boxcars. And   Wow. Dude, it was wild, man.  

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It's something that we can   wrap our head around, right? Because  

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Why can't we do that in our flesh state, right? Exactly.   You know what I mean? It's like Yeah.  

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You create your own reality, right? So Right. When you can do that in a dream, you can do that also by manifesting it in real life.   But why is it so hard in real life when you can do that   with the dream?  

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There's   that quote in the Bible that always comes to mind, The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. Right?  

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Mhmm. Yeah.  

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Not that I take full stock in the bible or Christianity or anything like that. I'm kind of on the level of stake.   I kind of went to   I was knee deep in the Bible for a long time back like 14 years ago, and then I stopped out of it, and I still   took   all that knowledge with me and stopped reading the Bible because that was another That's another whole podcast. But   now it's like I'm trying to see,   okay,   was I being played the whole time? Am I being manipulated? And of course, because you start learning that the the Bible is all fucking astrotheology.   You know, it's all fucking language based manipulation.  

I even question whether whether or not,   ancient AI technology actually wrote the Bible, and that's how hooks people in. Right. But then I started looking into how   the name,   Yohi Yohi Yohi,   the tetragrammaton,   I believe is a black magic spell to pull people in and, like,   it's very entrancing.   And once you get into it, you can't it's hard to get out.   And even when you do get out, you have to deprogram your fucking mind of it, but still take some of the truth that's in there and apply it to your life.  

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I just posted something on TikTok about   the Bible.   Why would you   write a book   when   we know that   it's like 2000 years old? Okay.   But history tells us that like 100 years ago, farmers and stuff like that couldn't read.   So what's your purpose of writing a book   when only a few people like the elite can read? And what's your intention about writing the book?   And what's your perception of the reader,   which is a pastor or a priest   that's going to tell all the people that can't read  

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what's in the book. What's in the book? And they're all going to sit there being like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. If you watch people in church, they're all sitting there and they're cut. They're never shaking their head. They're always like,  

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It's like an ad banger's ball, right? Yeah,   yeah. Not the good one.   Not the good one. No, no, no, no.   But it's fascinating.   And I think people   need a belief system or,   that   ask some questions about whatever.   Right?   Be curious.   But the thing is, I got a big   problem   with people that say, well, but it's been written. Yeah, but   I can write down here on my on my whiteboard something. Who wrote it?  

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Right.   You know? These people wrote this book With a- Yeah, 2000 years ago with the intention   of later on   using it to fucking dominate the fucking world.  

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And the other question will be, is it 2000 years old? Because they can tell you whatever the fuck one of you can believe it. Yeah. Might be only a couple 100 years old, who knows? Yeah.   And that when I go back to   a little bit, that's my perspective more of like paganism, it was in Hinduism.   It was there before   Samara   Sambaloa, Samaritan times.   Or was it Samarian? Yeah. Samarian. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. Sumerian   times. So that's been 5000   years pre   the Bible.   So,   but because they didn't have, like,   well, there were ruins and stuff like that, and the clay tablets, where   some things were pointed out, but nobody could fucking read them.  

So, of course,   there would be a purpose why somebody would make some   work out of the clay tablets or in the ruins.   But I think,   like, with ruins is like Hebrew.   It's like one word could say a lot of things,   And not like the words that we have to spell with letters that means one thing.   So that's one of things. The other thing is, if there's something that people believed in and lived quietly like 5000 years before the Bible,   what was that? Did they come to God?   Right.   Would you believe   in heaven and   opinion?  

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Yeah, maybe they had another book that was controlling them at the time.  

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Right? I think probably   it wasn't a book. It was   a belief system put up by people.   Yeah. Like an elderly,   like a shaman or whatever   that could say, no, this is the truth, do that because otherwise you're going to jump your fucking head off.   Right, man. Okay, got no choice, so I wanna keep my hat on the shivel, so okay, I'm within.   Yeah. It's crazy, man.  

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Like, can we all just not fucking be free? Like,   when people say, oh, I'm set 3 set free through the blood of Christ.   Okay? But now you're obeying a book. How are you free?   You know what I mean? Right?   You're a slave to Christ?   Oh,   but you're free.  

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Okay. And he loves you  

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Yeah. Even if you do anything. That shit. It's crazy, man. I it's and you know what, dude? The more the more that I fucking that I'm on this journey,   I don't know what the fuck to believe anymore. It's just like all my beliefs are being shattered every day. I'm always changing my mind. I'm always finding something new that's making me go, Holy fuck. You know? Right?   But at the same time, it's   fantastic because   it's humbling. It's like   I don't know fucking shit, dude. And I don't   think I'm gonna know everything until I die. I think once we die and we go wherever the fuck we're supposed to go, we're gonna figure it all out. And then then Yeah. You can only live so many fucking lifetimes before you're like,   I'm done.  

I'm done. You know? Yeah. I'm just just I'm just gonna stay out there now in the ether. You know?   Right.   And they're gonna come back from haunt people that I didn't like.  

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Like, yeah. Put a lumber jacket on and just like,   hey, rough.   My girlfriend,   my girlfriend, she always tells me, like, don't fuck me up. I'm going to haunt you in your fucking dreams. I'm going to haunt you in your life.   But I think,   and I talked about it with Nintendo. Typical woman. The typical. Yes, she's a witch.   Yeah, a witch bit. Yeah. But I love her. I love her for that. Because   that's the power of manifestation and manipulation   of women. Even the little   girls, they can manipulate so fucking good.   It's something like a   cult.  

Yeah. Once they're bored, they got this little seed in them, just like, if you want to have something,   doesn't matter what, just look with your big eyes. Just like, can I have that, please?   Please?   Oh, shit. Yeah. You're gonna have it.  

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How could I not? Do that? No.   I'm like, screw that over and over again.  

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I always tell them, like, I'm Merlin.   I don't fall for these fucking tricks.   But sometimes I just   like waking up between the air hooks in the kitchen, like, am I doing, am I making a meal?   And I just look around just like, did   you manipulate   me?   And then when I start realizing that when she asked me a question or when she said something,   oh, wait a minute. You asked that or you say that just because they're gonna do this and that. Right?  

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Yeah. Yeah. It's totally indirect manipulation.   Yes.   And it works.   And it works. And it makes you feel like,   I'm gonna treat her like a queen today. I'm gonna make her breakfast in bed. And then you're thinking, like,   what the fuck am I doing this for?   Oh, because I wanna please her because I don't know if she's gonna give up the pussy.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.   And Lord knows we all need that.   Damn. Yes.  

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We are falling for it.  

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Oh, yeah. There's   that old joke. There's that old joke like, I love pussy, I just don't like the cunt that surrounds   it.  

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And I always say, I   love the cross, but not that from Jesus Christ.   It's fascinating. I think women are so fascinated   goddesses. I love them. I love them too. I love them too. But they're,   sometimes it's so fucking hard   to,   to deal with that. And I don't mean that in a bad way, but   I figured out   how they can manipulate, just like we said before.   And when you realize that, it's just like, am I willing to do that? Or am I put in that spot to do that?   Is it free will? Yeah. Yeah. Or is it just like,   oh, shit, the lady talked to me. And of course, you just   put a spell on me. You know? Yeah. We've been manipulated by sex all the fucking time,   all the fucking time. When you see a gorgeous woman   and she says, If you do this, I'm going to give you that.  

Well, a lot of men fall for that.   A sweet deal.   That's a sweet deal. Yeah. Get your cock sodded or just like, oh, you just want a drink? Oh, that's cheap.   Okay, cool.   You know, and all of a sudden you wake up just like, why am I in bed with chains?   Why is there a candle sliding up, and why does she has a black robe and chanting all that shit? And I was just like, what the fuck just happened?   Am I the fuck am I here dinner, or am I being sacrificed right now?  

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Right?   But that's what it feels like. Like, you feel like you're like like, love is like a spell that's cast out of you.   And then once you're under that spell, you'll fucking do anything.   You know? And then shit gets really bad   midway through the relationship, however long it is, and then and then you get out of it. You're like,   thank God that's over  

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there. Yeah. We're going to never do that again.   I'm so tired of women. The next one will be a man or   a horse. I don't give a shit, but not a And all of a sudden, you've got that spell again. You've got this fucking   Yeah. You crave it.  

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Oh, yeah. You crave it. You crave it. Like, I've been single for   a good 5 years. I've had a couple   a couple,   flings   in between, like no relationships,   but   it's like I crave that partnership   with a woman. Right?   But at the same time, I feel   like I can do anything I want while I'm single.   And if I get into a relationship, it's going to be all about her. Right?  

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That's a good one that you broke.   I've been in a, I was in a relationship   with the girlfriend,   like,   best friends with benefits, right?   Yeah.   And it's cool. I mean, she's a fucking cool woman.   We laugh a lot. We talk to each other every day. Everything is like fine.   But we just said, okay, because the world is so fucked up, we can't fuck each other because we like each other, right? And all of a sudden,   things started   to shivering down a little bit. I was questioned that. And she said, okay, you know what?   I love the relationship that we have, but we shouldn't fuck. So I'm single.  

And it freaked me,   although I was in a in a open relationship.   But you still have your own perception of that.   Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just like, okay, I'm in open relationship.   I like that woman, but,   I can Well, I could fuck her, but I have someone   that I'm,   loyal to,  

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that I'm going home to. Not home like a home, but that's my companion. Right? It makes you feel like, I don't want, I want to be loyal. I don't want to just fuck her. I want to be with her. You know? Right. It's hard.  

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It's fucking hard,   Especially when you wake up. My cock is fucking hard, and it has nuts for a heartbeat to fuck around.  

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Is there a watermelon   around?  

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Yeah. Like in the sun, 33 Degree. We were talking about that just the other day. There's a song   of a, a band named Radio Bikini,   which are friends of mine. And they made a song because I told that as a joke, if you're so fucking desperate, put a medal in the sun, put a hole in it, and fuck it. Right? And then all of a sudden,   few years later, it's been 20 years ago or something like that.   They've extended me like   a video of a guy who is doing that. It's just like,   fuck. Yeah, yeah. We made a song out of that because your experiences. And no, I just had something going in my mind that was telling you. But it's really strange that,   even if you are in several,   when you have several relationships,   first of all, you're gonna fuck each other's brain out, right? Then you realize- Right off the bat, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean, oh, yeah. We're like rabbits. Yeah. Yeah. Like,  

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you know, like, put ice with ice on your nuts after  

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Yes. I think Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Cheese and Chong when they were in Amsterdam and the Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Both of us Chong has this ET  

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yeah. With the bird, Mr. Dolly?  

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Yeah.   Oh, that's a great show too, man. That's a great show too.  

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That but but May was hot though.  

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Oh, yeah.  

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She gave a run for her for the money for sure.  

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Oh, for sure.   For   sure. How did they get away with that? With all the, you know, they were talking about in the seventies, I think, about smoking and stuff like that. It was it was a more  

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free and liberating time. Who would have thought that   a generation raised on South Park and Cheech and Chog and all that would have becomes would become so offended   by   any little fucking joke that you tell them or   any movie that they watch. And now all the fucking comedy movies suck shit   because they're so scared of offending people, and they wanna make everybody so inclusive. It's like, where the fuck what the fuck happened, man? Right. That's why I got a a brand new t shirt in my shop,  

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TeePublic disorganized   shop,   offended?   Good.   Work of it.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.  

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Yeah. And and,   I think   we're we're doing podcasts if you don't hold back as we do. We don't hold back.   No.   When you   like a comedy show,   when there are lines that you can't   go across,   There's no comedy.   That's a very, very thin line, of course, because some people could get offended. But it's all about them individually. Like, I feel the, I'm candid about this shit or whatever. Yeah.   Fuck off.   Right?   I mean,   and nowadays,   where you see perversion of all the stuff that they're going to put out,   it's like, okay, when I see someone who looks like a woman,   probably would tell she's a she or her.  

But when you see a guy like you or me in a beard and tattoos and looks like a guy wearing a dress. Fucking dress. Yeah. Fucking not tell you she's a woman.   Yeah. You're a dude in a fucking dress. That's it.   Yeah.   I mean,   and if you go pee pee standing up, and you still have that thing going on.   So   if you have a beard, and you have boobs, and a dress, and you pull off your cock, you're still a fucking man, right?  

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Yeah. But if you pull out your dress I mean, it's so complicated   and convoluted.   If I don't know, I'm allowed to fucking question their identity.   And it's funny because ever We're not allowed to tell them what they actually are. It's what they think they are. That's when you have to tell them what they are. And it's like,   oh, you got a fucking dick. You're a guy, dude.   Right.   And,  

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oh, man.   This is something   that's been so perverted. And I think that a lot of people   that are struggling with the fact that they were in the wrong body   are dealing with the same shit because they have been putting into that, in that stamp,   in that little fucking box, but they don't want to be put in that box.   100%.   Yeah.   Because they're dealing with some real fucking shit in their lives.   And it's not easy. Like you said,   trauma.   It's trauma. Or it could be something like,   a real thing going on, like a disorder. Or  

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generational trauma, as well. Right?   Could be.  

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Well, just to be honest with you, if you're gonna   if I see a dog,   even if it's a wolf,   it's still related to a dog, right? It's not a cat.   Right.   And, and,   when you are sowing things to your body or cutting things off,   eventually when you die,   and in 100   years, they're gonna dig up your fucking bones,   some people can tell that was a woman or that was a man. How you felt inside   what your soul tells you, it's a different fucking story.   Right.   And I love to look at trans. I just,   if you see some of them trans women,   just like,   holy  

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fucking cow. Dude, they look no different than a fucking regular woman, you know? Exactly. Hotter sometimes. Yeah. But I love the cock part. You know, you get all the good things, all the good things. Yeah. And  

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cock part.   You know, you get all the good things, all the good things. First, well, I tell that on the other show, and I was telling that to   someone you know also, and I don't call her any names,   but I love trans. And you know why?   First of all, they look like beautiful woman.   2nd of all, they don't have the period.   Yeah.   3rd of all, they have   1 haul that's probably fitter than some pussy.   Right? Yeah. Facts.   Overall,   they know how to handle dick, because they got one themselves.   And it's not that complicated for us as a man to do the stuff. It's not like a roadmap to the g spot for a woman, right, to set up by the woman. And here comes part 6.   If there's a bar fight, they can stand there mad.  



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I never fucking saw this perspective before.   I'm more enlightened today. Thank you. Right?   Right?  

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I think it all makes sense. And   it's,   and it's really,   I think people are really   stuck into that. When you're dealing with when you wake up in the morning   and you look in the mirror   and you don't see that person that you want to be. And I'm not saying like, oh, I'm ugly. I want to change my nose or my whatever.   Right? Or I'm too fat. I want to take down my belly fat or that. But when you wake up and you just think like, oh, shit, I got a cock, and I don't want to have a cock.   Woah.   Woah.   And what really fascinates me is if you are a   guy   and you turn to be   a trans,   and you hook up with guys afterwards,   are you gay?  

Or   are you just,   or are you just,   a heterosexual   woman?  

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It's confusing to you and I because we're not trans.   We don't have the mindset.   Right? And   I tried   I I had a   a fling with,   a   quote, unquote they them.   It was a girl,   but   she she was she considered herself gender fluid.   Like, one day, she'd wanna be a boy. The next day, she'd wanna be a girl.   It was I was trying to Yeah.   Yeah. With a vagina. Yes. Right. With a vagina.   With a vajigee. Yes.   And I was trying to figure her out and I just couldn't fucking do it. I could I could sit there and and go, yeah, yeah, yeah, and, you know, but I just can't   grasp   the concept.  

Right.   God bless her. She is now,   I think, 10 songs into her music career. I had her on the podcast.   She talks about   her sexuality   in her music and, you know, relationships and stuff, and she's   fucking she makes really good music.   Right? I wish her all the best,   but I just can't   I can't get in the head. You know? I can't rise, and, like, why would you wanna be called a they?   Like,   doesn't make sense to me.  

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And that's what I'm trying to say here,   Davy. It's not something that I don't want to dig into.   I can't wrap my head around. I think it's fucking fascinating because it's a lot of involved psychology.   It's a lot of involved of maybe some disorder. I don't know. I'm fucking disorganized. So what the fuck, right?   But who am I to talk about that? Who am I to convict someone?   Oh, I said disorganized, my telephone goes   crazy.   But the thing is,   it's really hard   to see someone   which looks like   a girl.   And when you say, hey, girl, how are you doing? Oh, I'm a man.   Oh, well, be a fucking man then.  

Yeah.   Even if you are trans,   and there are, just like we said, there are some good looking trans, and some very bad looking Heathrow,   almost,   man,   whatever.   If you go to the toilet,   and someone in   a man's bathroom is going to squat down and pisses like a woman.   I go like, what the fuck?   If you go to   a lady's bathroom   and someone stands up and pisses like a man,   also say like, what the fuck? That's like- They have urinals in here with pop stool.   Yeah, but can you imagine, Davy, when we walk in a ladies' room and we say, oh,   I wear a skirt, but I identify like a woman. And understanding they're pissing off just like the way that I look, just like, what the fuck? You're not.  



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Exactly. Yeah.  

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And I'm not talking about   trans that are looking   like a woman,   and they are men or men   that are looking like a woman. Not talking about them. I think they have the same fucking point of view. Why is there a fucking litter box   in some classrooms because somebody identifies like cat? You know what?   You know what? Go hunt a fucking squirrel. I wanna see that. Yeah, yeah.  

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Just like me. Use your cat food.  

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Enjoy. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Oh, fuck. But I want McDonald's now. You're a cat. Cats don't eat McDonald's because your cat food Yeah. Well, like, women  

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shouldn't eat McDonald's in the first.  

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Well, that's that's another story. Yeah. Yeah.   We can we can do You don't you don't know why?   Because because the Jews ground up all the babies and put the fucking meat into the Big Macs. That's a Right?  

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Oh, now we got to talk about you.   Wow.   That's not a different story, right? It's something like, I think we pointed out a little bit about this. It's something like when you talk to someone   who has a really   indoctrination   belief system,   or like a teacher in the old days, no, it's just like I said.   And you don't have anything to question about it or whatever. It's just like this is.   I have a fucking big problem with that.   Because   I I can ask questions.   So you the the thing that you said, that's the narrative or that's the truth.   Okay. That's why you say that. But it's it's not like that. It's not like, oh, oh, oh, let me let me ask you a question. Nope.  

Oh, that's very hard for me to comprehend   on myself,   what you are, what you identify with, what your belief systems are like that.   I think everyone   will let lose   your gender,   your,   political ideas,   your religious stuff, where you're born, what kind of color you have. We're all fucking humans, that's it. We have to respect each other. But   you can't you can't go to a fucking,   to a hood and to demand some respect because you're wearing blue, red, whatever. You're going to be fucked up. And hear me dumbed out, yeah.  

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Yeah. No. You have to kind of   and like I said, like, I was trying to get into the mindset of the of a person and   and trying to understand them more as opposed to just being like,   Oh, you're a fucking they, them, and you have pronouns. Get the fuck out of here. You know what I mean? No.   She's my friend.   We fucked around a bit. I want to understand her. Right? Right.   But I just can't do it. But at least I tried. You know? There's some people that don't give people like that at the time of day.   Right? Like, I see there's a a council on Instagram who constantly fucking   take videos of these people and, like,   just try to, like, talk sense into them.  

You know what I mean? That's not gonna work. It's not my thing. Like, I enjoy watching them because I laugh   because they're right   because they're trying to instill logic in these people that have no logic.   So Well, I don't know, man.   With any culture, with any race, with   any human being, I try to understand the person and try   to get into their head a little bit. You know? Unless it's like a fucking   pedo or a serial killer or something like that. Then it's just like you know what I mean? It's like it's obvious. Right? But, like, a fellow human being, like you and I having a conversation we've never met before   and we're fucking,   boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, this and that, this and that, we could probably go for 8 hours. Right? Oh, 1 hard man. Yeah.  

And that's what I like to do with people that I talk to all the time.   Like, I love   to get to know people. When I when I listen to   a band that I really like,   I look into them like, oh, what was their   their childhood like? What was this and that? Like, I like to know people. You know? I'm actually I think that's something   that a lot of people are missing these days. We kinda just go about our our daily routine and kinda go   to our coworkers that we see every day. We're kinda like, hey, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever, hang out, do our work, But we never really fucking sit down and get to know them like podcasters do, interviewers.   This is why I love doing this because I get to,   it's cathartic for me. It's therapeutic for me and   stimulating,   and I get to cultivate relationships and shit. That's why I love doing what I do. Oh,  

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you just hit it right there.   It's something that   I'm so grateful for because   it expands my own mind.   It, it, I I'm talking to so many interesting people.   And just like you said,   most of them, like 99%,   I never talk to them. We make,   a show on Calendly, just like hop on the podcast, I would just see how it goes. What's your script?   Well, I don't have a script, so let's go. I don't have a lot more. Yeah. And then it'll take notes.   Don't let me neither. Just like, I'm blank. Well, sometimes I like the tongue. Totally, man. Sometimes. I mean, sometimes I have to dig into a topic or stuff like that.   I'm going to have some podcast with the jaguar,   well, probably this weekend.  

And he wants to talk about some subjects,   about plant medicine and stuff like that. So,   we know that we're both   totally ADHD guys. So, we need a script   to   But it's not like a script script.   I just like the part and final thing. Yeah, just like, okay, we're going to touch base on this subject. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the experience like that.   Each point of note that you take, you could go for an hour on each one. Oh, 100%.   100%. 100%. I think,   and that's so fascinating when you, and that's why I always say,   like, skipping rides like squirrel. When you do that, it's going to be   not only interested for me, because otherwise you're going to lose my attention.  

We talk about all the stuff, like the same stuff all over again. Just like, oh, fuck, yeah.   Oh, probably we would still be hanging around with the paranormal stuff. Look at all the topics that we covered, and we never talked to each other. Just like, and that's what I fucking like, David.   The connection   that I have with someone who is 6,000   miles or whatever away,   just like, wow, man.   We'll get a beer, and I would just hang around playing games, not in the basement. Seriously. Yeah.  

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Right? Yeah. It's it's a fucking beautiful thing, man. And ever since I that's why when I started doing it,   I was going apeshit. I was trying to do 1, like, 2, 3 a week. Right? Then I was like, okay. This is kind of   exhausting, so I'm gonna go, though, 1 a week, maybe 2 a week.   Right. I'm I'm picking up steam again now because I have more free time,   but it's addictive, man. It's like   and sometimes I don't wanna do it.   Sometimes I'm like,   I really don't feel like doing it. But when I do it, I'm like, I'm fucking glad I did it.   Exactly.  



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The thing is, and especially with the guests, I don't have, like a narrative that I want to talk about. I just like, okay, get on.   If people say to me,   and I think it's the same with your show, because I was looking at your show, and listening to a few episodes, and you say, Oh, I don't like your podcast. Well, what did you don't like? Because there are so many topics with so many guests.   There are so much flavors about what you can dig into about what the guest has to tell.   Well, they'll You can't say   like, oh, I don't like that stuff.  

What's that? Is that my voice the way that I do it or whatever? I don't know. It's not about you, but the topics.   Can you point out one topic that's going to be in that show for forever?   Like biblical or   flat earth, paranormal, whatever.   Is it going to be like no, no. And I don't like that either because I want to explore. I want to   continue   my search   for my truth, my plausible truth, and connect with people.   Because people are so fucking fascinating.   And the journeys that they have, the experience that they have, that they want to share, it's like we do now. It's just like, okay,   it's like we're in a fucking bar.  

Oh, you know what? I'm going to the toilet. I'm going to grab another beer. You want some? Oh, yeah, cool. I am a   and that's how it should be. Because I think   when we touch based on the gender   topic,   and on the religious way. When you have these things that been put in a fucking box,   you can talk.   I travel quite a lot. You can't talk about religious   or politics   when you are on the road, because it's gonna screw up your fucking day. Because every Right, I believe. Different perception of belief system or whatever.   So if you let that loose,   you're just, oh, great, man. We figured out here, just like,   2 weeks ago,   2 guys came in with a bicycle.  

They were, having a tour like 2,000 kilometers, young guys, 18 70,   biking around from the Netherlands to Belgium, to the Ardennes,   and not here.   And,   I was there with a, well, a friend of mine came over, and he had some barbecue   and stuff like that. So, he told the guys, because they were making   their food on a little stove, right? Like, okay, you can use this stuff. Okay, cool, oh, thank you, thank you, sir.   And, we were getting into conversation, stuff like that. And then, eventually, when they had their meal prepared,   he said,   would you like to take a moment   for yourself?  

And they said, yes. So he started to pray. And I was just looking like, wow,   wow, with all the respect, I mean, with all the respect, He   just asked that because   he knew that the guys came from that and that town, and they're very, into the religious and stuff like that. He said afterwards,   he said, I looked at them and I said,   these are from   like really religious people. So why don't we give them their space?   Especially, sure. I don't know. She's like, goosebumps all over, look at that. It's like,   yes, yes, afterwards we were talking about a lot of stuff, also about the Bible. I know a lot of stuff about the Bible, not everything.   We had a great fucking conversation.  

Great. And we talked to him, you like a beer? Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. So we gave them a beer,   and it didn't, then all of a sudden it was like, how old are you? Well, I'm 18, and, I,   I'm this and this, and I'm 17.   You're normally not allowed to drink beer. What would the Lord say? Well, the Lord say I can have a beer because I had just like 200 kilometers on a fucking bike.   Amen, brother.   Amen.   Amen to that. And that's why you connect with people. And if you let   them   in their, whatever they are, with respect,   then   so fucking many doors are opening to   great conversations and stuff like that. Absolutely.  

But it's not like, okay, guys, shut the fuck up, because I want to talk to my creator and thank you for real. That's a different story. That's like the pronouns, like,   I'm a heterosexual   seagull,   which is working on the circus. That's a fucking different story, right? Did somebody drop a French fry?   Oh, man.   It's great to have you on the group, man. We have a we have a very special group with special people. I love the group, man.  

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I love   I'll sit there, like, playing a video game when I get home from work and just   hit play and listen to the people say what they had to say throughout the day and Right. Chime in whenever.   And then I usually like, I'm on Telegram. I have my my old red pill cartel channel, but I hardly ever use it. But this group, I'm always fucking checking in, man. It's awesome. Oh, man. The the thing is, like,  

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4 or 5 weeks ago,   I woke up. There were normally, like, few messages.   I woke up just like, what the fuck?   183 messages?   And I know that all of them are   layered. It's not like, oh, have a great day, everyone.  

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Yeah, yeah.   No, people are getting good, deep conversations. Fuck, yeah. Just call their dads out.  

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We are great to be retards, right? We are the best retards in the fucking world.   And I was talking, I talk a lot to Snake,   which is   my executive producer, I call him, because he's going to wind up also with people like you, getting into the group and stuff like that. He connects me with a lot of people, and we have great conversations.  

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And- I don't even know how the fuck he found me, but he found me, and he broke me in. I was like, cool, man. Awesome. That guy  

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from another fucking dimension. I see. Absolutely.  

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I love this guy. He fucking kills me laughing too, man. Oh, yes.  

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Yes. It's something like,   when you are in the right group with people   and you can say whatever the fuck you want,   with all respect to   you should ventilate   your opinion about stuff like that. And when you see sometimes, like,   we have a very special group, listeners,   When people write down   some things,   you have to read them   twice or three times, just like, holy shit, this is deep stuff. It's really, really fun. Woah.   I like that.   But I was, one weekend, I had 3 podcasts.   I was   doing the shit I love to do. And I'm just like, okay,   Sunday evening, I'm finished with the editing. Just   let me let me check my group. And I was getting on the group, just like,   holy shit.  

That takes me another day to figure out the messages, and they still came in. And   the funny thing is I'm like 8 hours ahead for most of them.   Right. When I go to bed, everybody's   got   to be awake,   start to message   that, like the shit, you know, I don't know.   I wake up just like, oh, that was a beautiful,   beautiful dream I just had. Oh, it's   coffee. Let me get on Telegram.   Holy fucking shit.   It's what's wild, dude. I try to keep up as much as I can.  

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I chime in when I can because I do this and I have my fucking day job too. Right? So it's like   at my day job, I can't really pull my phone out as much as I want to do. What do you do when I get home, right? I work at a Costco.  

[01:42:57] Unknown:

Oh, right.   Yeah. So you do podcasting also   afterwards?   Yeah. I usually do it on my days off.  

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So, yeah, it's cool, man. A lot of my coworkers listen to my podcast,   which is cool. You got it. Yeah.  

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Very cool. I'm going to get more and more audience.   There are gonna be   a few really, really,   cool podcasts,   which I'm really excited about,   telling about real truth about here in the Netherlands.   Can't talk about it too much, because it's going to be very, very controversial.  

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I'll look forward to that.  

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Yeah.   There will be in Dutch. That's   well, unfortunately, for the free English listeners,   but it has to be out. And   I was   at a meeting   3 weeks ago,   and people recognized me, and I don't know who they are.   What the fuck is that?   Did you encounter that when people come up to you, like, hey, I love the way you do your podcasts, and all of that. Like, dude, who the fuck are you? It's happened to me a few times. And just the other day, I was helping this lady put,  

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like, cases of water into her car.   She's like,   I know you from somewhere. I'm like, really? She's like,   yeah. You're on TikTok. Right? I'm like,  

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yeah. Yeah. I am.   Right?  

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She was like, Yeah, I watch you. I follow you. I watch your videos. I'm like, Holy shit. This is weird, man. It's weird. I love it.   I love it too.  

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It's happened a couple more times before.   And that's something like,   what's it called?   You're going to get the love and respect for what you're doing.   You got the,   it's a lot like, oh, oh, oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm doing podcasts. But when somebody just pops out of the blue, it's like, oh, man, I love the way you talk. Yeah. We Do your podcast or the stuff that you do, and just like, I love it.  

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Wow. Thank you, man. I I I love the comments on Instagram. Like, like, some people like, 1 guy was like,   dude, like,   you saved me, like, from such boredom at work because I all I do is listen to your show, and you're fucking awesome. Right. Like, thanks, man. That's fucking like, that's   that's partially why I do this.   This is how I can get people through their day and listen to me, yak, right?   Right.  

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Yeah, because one podcast is not the other. And especially,   I see that with my guests. Sometimes it's more   like into a topic.   And,   the thing is,   people, where you think   that would listen to your podcast. I talk about friends and family.   No one,   no one.   Same. When you bring it up sometimes, they're like, oh, no,   when I'm at work, just like, okay, you know what? I can't work tomorrow night because I got a podcast. Oh, you got a podcast?   And of course, I like to bring it up because that's the way I do.   But it's not like a flagship of, oh, I'm the podcaster. Oh, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.   I rock. The only thing I like to do is podcasting.  

But there are some people now that just like, oh, man, I was listening to you. There was a great show. Oh, what show? Oh, well, that and that. Oh, that episode was great, too.  

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Yes. Yeah, yeah, I love that.  

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Yeah, but that's the thing.   We all seek for that kind of   acknowledgement   because we can't see it in the job. You got to get paid to shut the fuck up. Right? You got to do that. Yeah. Yeah.   But now, you do everything with the energy, and with   the love, and the passion that you do. And all of a sudden, out of the blue,   dude,   I was going to fucking LA because I do podcasts   for free.   I was,   doing this Campbell session with a frog,   right? So it is a frog.   You see the dot still here?   They gonna,   burn mark you   with   a stick, and then they put   prop poison in you, and then you have a fucking big trip. You go to SKU and farm it, so you have a very nice,   informative club of people.  

And it's also,   detoxify, right? Yes, Very detoxifying.   I had  

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a a few episodes ago, I had, Evan d.   He does a Cult 45 podcast.   And he had experience in just like that too, dude. He went on, like,   shamanic fucking journeys and shit, and he was on IV Fentanyl,   and it cured him. He cured himself.   Oh, yes.  

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Yeah. Wild shit. Yes. Wild, wild shit. And that's what I've said just like a few minutes before. If I have to be the rabbit that they want to try out,   I'm in.   I'm a rock girl junkie, but in a good way.   But the thing is,   eventually, because I hook up with this guy and we're going to do another podcast about stuff,   He said, you know what? About the session that we did,   I'm going to give it to you for an experience because we're going to hook up and we're going to work together. Just   like, then I got an email and   I connected with another guy,   and he has   Shoko Bliss. I don't know if you know that. Shoko Bliss is Ayahuasca.  

And normally, you have another plant that's going to make the trip for 6 to 8 hours, like the Ayahuasca session. But this is Ayahuasca with,   psilocybin,   so like with the mushrooms. So you have another different.   And he said, I want to talk on your podcast about the experience. I said, yeah, cool, hop on.   Today,   I got a message like, oh,   yeah, we just   scheduled,   but   we want you to have that experience too.   So I said, okay, I'm in.   I'm fucking in. Come on. Let me trim my fucking balls over, the sake of humanity,   to, you know, to talk about what experiences   afterwards.  

I'll- Sure.   Yeah, exactly.  

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I wouldn't, but that's okay.   All the power up to you, but Well,   just help me out with the right people now. Let me know about it and what's he doing.  

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And the funny thing is I I did a lot of drugs,   but this kind of drugs, like the psychedelics,   it's something like   they show you a path, they show you   unfeeling something.   Yeah. It's a warm cover of mother earth, that the nature's talking to you. The divine soul is talking to you. And it's not about cocaine, heroin, and stuff like that. This is the fucking hard stuff, right? Well,   the   what's it called?   The subtleness.   Sunnal. Sunnalness. Yeah. Yeah. The subtleness and the warmth and the insights you're gonna get,  

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that that subtle. It's like It's like doing shadow work, but you're fast forwarding through it because   you can do shadow work without   any psychedelics,   It takes longer, but you get way more insight from mother nature when you're actually   inviting her into your body and mind and spirit, Right? 100%.   If I see the ROP 5 years ago,   and now when I start to experiment a little bit,  

[01:51:10] Unknown:

it was something like I always wanted to do like acid.   I never went into this like, oh   my God, maybe we're going to jump out of a fucking building and stuff like that. And then all of a sudden, you're like, okay, Rob, harden the fuck up. It's not that bad. It's like tattoos. Oh, it's going to hurt. Yeah. Look at me now. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So Have we tried DMT yet? Yes.  

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Oh, how was that? Tell me. Oh.   Because it's like 8 minutes of eternity. Right?  

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Oh, it's it's like it was my first one was like,   50 minutes out.   Totally out. So   we were,   hooking up with some friends. They had some DMT because we asked them to bring it with us, because we wanted to make that experience, and they were our trip sitters.   Normally, well, not normally,   not that regular guy that does every single day drugs,   but,   normally, I like to   deal with the right situation with the right people to do some drugs.   These were very kind people that were experienced,   trypsin also. So, okay, we   were handed over this pipe.  

DMT was stuffed. They liked the real DMT, not the chemical stuff, real DMT.   So inhale, inhale, inhale,   nothing happens. Keep it, keep it, nothing happens. Are you good? Yes, I'm good.   When you inhale, you're gonna get   So I   fell   just like   out of body.   I'm not there.   I felt   like fluid. There was nobody.   My spirit was just like   into the fucking universe, dude,   into the   fucking universe.   And with a lot of things, you have to let go. You have to let go of who you are, where you are, whatever you are. Right? Then you have the best Because your body wants you to come back. Right? Yes.  

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Yes. I've heard a lot of stories. You  

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have this trinity, right, going on, but you got to let loose of that trinity.   So,   I think   it was like   when I did first time mushrooms, like the real big dose,   like the hero doses,   it was like   the the the   I think it's called let's call it mother nature, for example. It's going to take you with her like, Okay, it's going to be all right, child. I'm going to show you around.   What questions do you have? You see the   geometric   patterns,   you see maybe,   other dimensions.   You're going to get like,   when you go to a museum and someone is going to show you around, right? But that with universal   spirit, with   all the things that you see, with all the things that you taste that there are, no, this is just   like such a fucking small thing about that what I'm going to show you right now.  



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That's so,   and then we show you. Here we have the Elvish people exhibit.  

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But it's like,   and they call it the the businessman trip, because like 15 minutes,   20 minutes,   you're good. You're good to go. You're just, like, back in your body. And   the only thing that is is the smell of death,   the real smell of death that's in the DMT also, it smells   horrible.   But   within   3 to 4 weeks, maybe 2 months, you can sometimes smell that.   Like, oh,   that's a   dmt.   So it's it fascinates me. It's something not like that you want to do every fucking single week and just like LSD   or mushrooms. You know, you gotta it's sacred to me. It's a medicine.   You take a ritual.  

It's like a ritual. It's like   cleansing. Even with LSD, it feels like cleansing. When you laugh out loud that your   your nose is going to get open. Your mind is   going to feel this warmness and stuff like that.   Really love that. It's not like for everyone. This is not a podcast that we're going to say, oh, you got to do drugs. Absolutely. No, no, no. Absolutely. Get me mentally prepared for sure. Oh, yes.   Mentally, emotionally,   physically,   all the things should be in fucking balance if you're gonna do that kind of shit, because it can fuck you  

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up. Yeah. Absolutely.   Yeah. I knew a guy this kid at work that was dropping acid every fucking day at work. I'm like, dude, what the fuck?   And then he he stopped because he said he was feeling like he was having too much anxiety.   Like, he was losing   losing touch with who he really was.  

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And so Oh, I can imagine that. Yeah. Yeah.  

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I'm like, dude, why would you do that at work, man? I wouldn't be worried. If it's a shitball job, maybe it's the best thing to do. Right?   I don't know, man. Probably make it even shittier because you're, like, I'm high right now as fuck, and I don't wanna be here.   Right. Right.   But It's like fucking weed at work, dude. I don't like smoking I don't like getting high at work. I like to make it a nighttime day. Right. Right. Gun water can treat myself, whatever.   I I'm not, like, jonesing for it either when I'm at work because I I kind of enjoy my job. I don't mind I like helping people while I'm there, doing all the cool shit, talk to my coworkers,   having fun, and then I get home and then I do my thing. Right? Right.  



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It's I wanna add, one time I had this,   THC droplets of oil. Right?   So   the stupid thing I did That's what I do, actually. I know this whole Okay. But it's fucked Neil. I was going to work, and I thought, oh, maybe 3 of these droplets   wouldn't   harm me.   That was in a very bad period for myself.   I think just before I hopped on into the hospital with my intestines or just when I got out, I don't remember.   But I took 3 droplets,   went to work,   and starting to get stoned.   That wasn't the big deal.   But   my manager comes up to me. He said, oh,   higher up.  

We have a new manager   sitting in your next   room.   He wants to talk to you.   What's that? Paranoid.   Well, he was on Zoom. That   was okay. So I took my coffee, which made it fucking worse, because I already had a fucking dasod in my mouth.   Right?   So the stupid thing I did is what I take my coffee. I thought, you know what? I'm going to pop in some chewing   gum. You know what happens when you're fucking stoned and when you're dried up with your mouth because of the coffee   and the THC, and you have a chewing gum in your mouth, it's going to be   not that good.  

And he was talking to me. I just like,   I just had a reminder to myself,   you know, put it on my fucking whiteboard,   don't ever do droplets before you go to work. It's going to fucking bomb.   At once, when I dropped my first asset at home,   I had all my lights. Just like to see, I like lights   and stuff like that, and colors.   I was having a really good trip. I was laughing my fucking balls off. And then all of a sudden I realized like, oh, man, I gotta trim my beard.   Fuck, yeah, I got to trim my beard. So first of all, I looked in the mirror. They say to you where you are an asset, don't   look in the mirror.  

So, what are you going to do?   What   could be possibly going wrong?   Well, first of all,   I left, like,   45 minutes in the mirror, just like, who the fuck am I looking at, right?   Then I took my fucking trimmer, just like,  

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oh, fuck.  

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I can't go to work like that.   I think I was in the bathroom for more than 3 hours   laughing my balls off,   anxiety, just like, Fuck, I look like shit, because your whole face structure, everything is going to be different when you trim your beard. Right? Yeah. Like what you normally do, what you normally do, but you see a completely different person in that fucking mirror.   Then, when I woke up the other day, I had on my whiteboard,   totally all over the fucking place, of course,   reminding to myself when I'm on the asset,   don't trim your fucking beard.  



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That's fucking funny, right? Oh, I had a when I was 14,   I had this Polish friend, Damien, and he had a heavy thick Polish accent. Right?   And he told me he came up to me one day, and he said, Hey, Dave. I'm like, What? What's up, man? He's like, you know what's really hard?   When you go to concerts and you take 2 ass in?  

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Oh, man.  

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That's all he said, Nick fucking died laughing.   Right.   So funny, man.  

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And if you gotta do   stuff like that, you need an environment that you're very familiar with, or that you are very   feel good with,   with   friends that don't fuck you up. And you always have to realize,   what am I on?   Where am I?   And who the fuck am I?   Mhmm. If you don't have   an answer to one of these three questions,   like I   once had a friend, we were hanging out, we were drinking beer, and he said, oh, dude, I gotta go home. I said, you can't go home like that. You're fucked. We were drinking like hell that day. Right?   So he said,   you got something?  

I said, yeah, sure.   So I made him a line of speed, like amphetamine.   Why?   It's   for a friend. So what I did   is I took quite a lot, but I put it on a on a on a fucking,   mirror.   I took a lot like a little line for myself. Like, this is what you're going to do. Right? So I lifted just like, oh, woah. Wow. Yeah. Woah. I'm back again. This fucking motherfucker   took like 1 and a half gram   of fucking speed. It would just he he took all the rest. He just   like he popped up his eyes. He said, holy shit. I said, holy fuck. I said, when that was like cocaine,   you would probably do that for 5 seconds and then die, motherfucker.  

Only ask what you got on the fucking plate. He said after 2 days, I didn't sleep. I said, no. Oh, I bet.  

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Fuck no. You didn't sleep. I bet. He's probably grinding his fucking teeth for 2 days. Oh,   fuck.   I told him just, like, always   ask   what it is. Even if I take one, like, little fucking speed pill Right.   And swallow it, I'm grinding my teeth for, like, 3 hours, bro.  

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Just a tiny little pill. Yeah. Yeah. I got one friend of mine who it doesn't matter what it's gonna take after 5 or 6 minutes.   And me, just like the professional, just like, what's happening, you know? Oh, aren't you on something? No.   Well, yes, a little bit, but, oh, you can see that. I was once at a concert.   We were hanging in this techno   stuff. Right?   I was fucking,   sober for more than 1 month. No smoking,   no drugs,   no alcohol,   nothing.   I came in with my girlfriend, and this bouncer comes up to me. She said,   hey, how you doing? She said, I'm fine.  

Can I search you? I said, sure.   You wanna put your gloves on or what? He said, you're definitely   high, man. I said, fuck, I'm high on myself.   My girlfriend at the time, she said, dude,   normally, when you're going to take out his pockets, there is 400%   sure something   somewhere,   but he's been sober for 1 fucking month.   He couldn't believe it. He searched me. He found nothing.   I went into the concert,   like this house music.   All my friends are like, hey, Rob, yeah,   what do you got? I said,   nothing.   No,   you're kidding me. I   I was 10. I took the ground floor, and I was just, you ate nothing? I said, no   water. I don't know what they're gonna put in the water here, but I'm fucking sober.  

Really?   Yeah, just hide myself, man. That's all I need.   They couldn't fucking realize it. They couldn't believe it.  

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That's wild.  

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Yeah.   Sometimes I'm wild. I'll be sometime.  

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Dude, sometimes,   there's there's certain days where I just have so much fucking energy, and you can't shut me up. Like, to my coworkers, I'll be like   like, I'm, like, fucking on speed or something, but I'm totally, like,   like, sober. Right? Right.   And I'm usually the type of guy that smiles all the time. I like everything. I laugh. I smile.   I had several people, like, saying to me, Dave. I'm like, yo, what's up? Like,   why are you fucking smiling all the time?   My answer is always, there's a fucking alive, aren't I?  

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It's so funny when you're tripping your fucking balls off. Everybody thinks you're fucking normal.   When you're just, like, having a good time, oh, what did you use today? Well, Let's be on something. Reject.   Yeah. Or life.   Or life.   Damn. Time flies where you have fun 2 and a half hours in, I think. Fucking right, buddy. Fucking right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. We talked about it before. We can do 8 hours.  

[02:06:24] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. But I have multiple guests on my show that I can do that way. But sometimes you got to cut it off.  

[02:06:32] Unknown:

Yeah. What I'm going to do is I'm going to ask you forwarding questions.  

[02:06:36] Unknown:

Sure. And then we're going to cut them off. But first of all, I want to know where,   the audience, my audience can find you and   contact you.   Where can they find you? Yeah? Okay.   An easy one to do is just go on Instagram and   type in red pill cartel   podcast   2.   There's 2 accounts.   There's a main one. There's a main one, which I don't have access to anymore, and then there's 2, which is my main my my new main account.   So if you go on there, there's a late Laketree in the bio, and you can find out you can you click on that. It'll guide you wherever you can find me.   Right.  

That's the easiest one. I'm gonna put that in the show description.  

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Okay.   I have to figure out when I'm gonna do that because this is the 2nd podcast I'm doing today. I work for 11 hours.   I gotta work tomorrow.   Okay.   Probably my hearing aid is gonna fuck me up.   What I'm gonna do,   I'm gonna ask you 14 questions.   I have to be honest. There are also fucking hard questions to   to to to answer.   What? Aarogenism?   Sorry?   14?   14.   Okay.   We're 12, but it's not 14.   What's your definition   of the devil?  

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I think it's I think the devil   lives in every single one of us.   We are capable of both good and evil.   And,   whether it is this   one main entity that   puts it into us or not is debatable, but I just think it's us.  

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Great answer. What's the definition of God?  

[02:08:43] Unknown:

The source of consciousness.  

[02:08:49] Unknown:

What's your,   definition of value?  

[02:08:53] Unknown:

Value? Excuse me?   I think value is   things that we love about ourselves   and other people,   things that we cherish about one another,   I think.  

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Right.   What's your definition of success?  

[02:09:17] Unknown:

Doing what you want to do to be happy, and   it doesn't necessarily have to be monetary   or material.   Mhmm. I think it's more spiritual and   mental   because I I also believe that happiness is a choice.  

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One harp said.  

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One harp said. And to me, that's ex success is just   feeling   good about yourself. And   no matter what state you're in,   be happy and fucking   let that rub off on other people. I think that's, to me, that's success.  

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Right.   What's your favorite color?  

[02:10:01] Unknown:

Blue   or anything blue related like,   aqua or   teal or whatever, royal blue, all the different spectrums.   Good.   What's your favorite music?   Metal.  

[02:10:17] Unknown:

Right. We can't have a podcast   for that.  

[02:10:20] Unknown:

Dude, the harp set. I love a lot of the music, but metal is always my go to.   Which which bands, if I may ask?   I know.   That's odd. There's a lot. Yeah.   I think Fear Factory for me is way up there because they always talk about, transhumanism   and shit like that. It's always been fascinating to me. Mhmm.   Fear Factory is way up there for me. And,   Tools up there,   of course,   Mavericks. There's so many. I'm just liking right now.   Iron Maiden of Maiden, of course. Yeah.   Black Sabbath.   Sabbath is I'm I was never a huge Sabbath fan   just because I'm younger.  

Right. But I do like them, for sure. Definitely respect them.  

[02:11:08] Unknown:

Yeah. Oh, man, metal. Yes, for sure.   What's your favorite   movie or series?  

[02:11:19] Unknown:

I have a very   soft spot for the 1970   original Dawn of the Dead by George Romero.  

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Uh-huh.  

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Uh-huh. I can't tell you how many times I've watched it.   Every time I watch it, it just puts pulls me in   me, and I I love the the seventies   aesthetics, the atmosphere,   the social commentary   of how the zombies really are us.   You know? Uh-huh. That feels fucking fantastic.  

[02:11:48] Unknown:

Yeah.   What's your favorite book?  

[02:11:56] Unknown:

I, Stephen King's The Stand.  

[02:11:59] Unknown:

Oh,   that's the same as the as the Mason,   the Freemason,   just like a few hours ago mentioned. Really? Yes.  

[02:12:10] Unknown:

I love that book. It took me the first time I read it, it took me   3 days, believe it or not, and it's a fucking poem.   Wow. I was sucked in. I couldn't   stop. Amazing.   Wow.   I gotta I gotta gotta look at that. What's your favorite, drink?   Hard liquor wise.  

[02:12:32] Unknown:

Well, oh yeah, because we got drinks and beverages, right? What's your favorite,   yeah, yeah, drink? Yeah.  

[02:12:41] Unknown:

Gin and tonic.  

[02:12:43] Unknown:

Oh. Oh, I had   a blue  

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Panty remover. That's what we call it.  

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I just had,   2 weeks ago,   a gin   which was based off violets.   It was blue.   But when you poured it in the gin, it turned out pink.   Wild. And it tasted so   fucking I when I had panties on, I would drop   them. Okay. I gotta try that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I I have to, I can, I can text him which one it was?  

[02:13:22] Unknown:

Yeah. I gotta I gotta send you some stuff too after that. So Yeah.  

[02:13:26] Unknown:

What's your favorite food?  

[02:13:32] Unknown:

That's tough because I love all kinds of food culturally too.   I gotta say Indian food. I love Indian food, man. All kinds of different Indian foods, and they make vegetables edible.   Yes. You know? Because I'm not a big veggie guy, but when I eat Indian style vegetable food, man, it's fucking phenomenal.  

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The spice that they use is   Oh, it's incredible.  

[02:14:00] Unknown:

I love spicy too, so. And I like hot, super fucking hot horseradish.  

[02:14:06] Unknown:

Alright.  

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The shit that makes you, like, gasp for air. Like, yeah. Yeah. Amazing.  

[02:14:12] Unknown:

Oh,   what what kind of, clothing you like to wear the most?  

[02:14:19] Unknown:

Fucking whatever   dresses me, man. Like,   I'm not I'm not, like, a big fashion guy. You know? I just wear, like, fucking camo shorts and   heavy metal t shirts and shit. I got my Alice Kringer shirt on right now. Right.   Right.   I I think they're good conversation pieces. When when there's a fellow rocker out there, they love to approach you, and I approach them too when they have a pool sheared on. And we could talk for, like, 45 minutes about fucking beds and shit. I love that.  

[02:14:49] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I I know the drill. I got I got a lot of metal shirts too, man.   What time no. What,   what's your favorite holiday destination?  

[02:15:02] Unknown:

Travel wise, I don't travel too much.  

[02:15:05] Unknown:

Well, I would love to go to.  

[02:15:07] Unknown:

I would love to go to Japan. Always have wanted to go.   Yep.   I would also love to go, of course, to, like,   the Bahamas or somewhere down there. Right? Right. Somewhere hot. I love the heat. So Uh-huh.  

[02:15:23] Unknown:

Well, come through the Nellas now. 33 degrees.  

[02:15:26] Unknown:

Yeah. It's about yeah. I know. Oh, yeah. You do Celsius? Thank god. Yes. Okay. Yeah. There's, like, I We're on, like, 29 today.   What? Fahrenheit?  

[02:15:38] Unknown:

No. Celsius.   Right.   Yeah. That's that's that's enough too. Right? That's it's   and the humidity here is so The humidity  

[02:15:46] Unknown:

is   the the the the shit kicker, for sure. Yeah. Exactly.  

[02:15:51] Unknown:

David, what's your favorite quote?  

[02:15:55] Unknown:

Oh,   I like,   I like   how does it go again?   The mind is like a parachute. If it's not open, it doesn't work. And that's by Frank Zappa.  

[02:16:10] Unknown:

Wow.   That's a good one.   And what's your life's motto?   Wow.  

[02:16:25] Unknown:

Oh.   I used to say this to my,   girl my ex girlfriend's little brother   because he'd be like, oh, let's have a beer. Like, it's not gonna be just 1 because because my motto   is get fucking draped to get drunk.   Right.   And what I mean by that, you can use that on so many different levels, like go big or go whole. Right? Like Right.   Right. A lot of things. Like, when I drink, I I wanna get drunk. It's not for, like, a taste. I'm   getting fucking drunk. Let's go.  

[02:17:02] Unknown:

Yeah. Not getting drunk is for losers.   Right? That super sucks. Yep.   Well, I used to do that, to get drunk. But nowadays,   I sometimes,   no, not sometimes, always   drink for just for drink, but not for to get drunk again. No. Right. Right. I don't like that anymore.   But You're not testing for out of clinic. Drugs.  

[02:17:27] Unknown:

Well well, that that too. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[02:17:32] Unknown:

So you're not you're not fully on board with my model then. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You want to get wasted. You gotta, you gotta, gotta take a lot. Right? Do it right. Yeah.   And,   sometimes you can double the dose. That's   the tricky part with psychedelics.   Like, when you drink, you're going to stack it up until you're drunk.   But when you do mushrooms, you can just like Better be careful.   Yeah. But you can't say like, okay, got 10 or 15 grams in. I've gotta take some more, because   the effect will be the same. Mhmm. Like LSD, when you when you have your trip, you can't stack it up.  



[02:18:11] Unknown:

Well, it's like that age old fucking thing where you're eating pot brownies, and you're like,   I'll think I'll have half the brownie. And then   45 minutes later, you're like,   fuck it. I'm not feeling anything. It'll take the rest of it. And then, like, 20 minutes later, you're like, fucking call 911.  

[02:18:31] Unknown:

I love that from   Wolf of Wall Street when they when he takes some stabers of failing that. Yeah. The incredible all the palace. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When he's on the on the club just like,  

[02:18:47] Unknown:

shit. I'm gonna fucking watch them.  

[02:18:50] Unknown:

Yeah.   Dude, I had a great time with you, man. Me too, man. But we we we gotta we gotta we gotta make it a part 2.   For sure. Yeah.   Because there are a lot of topics that we can talk about, and, just let our minds go like,   skipping brands like squirrel.   Right?   So, thank you for all, Bernard. And,   yeah, for all the listeners,   thank you for listening to this episode.   Don't do drugs.   Let me do it for you.   And, have a beautiful   morning, beautiful day, or beautiful evening no matter where you are on this beautiful   plain planet.  

Thank you.   A devil on my heels.   He wasn't always kind,   and he couldn't fulfill my dreams.   He's a pain in the ass.  

[02:20:15] Unknown:

Black as at night,  

[02:20:45] Unknown:

dreams. He's a pain in the ass.  

[02:20:49] Unknown:

Black as a night,   god