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In this episode of Chaos Creates Harmony, I sit down with returning guest Joost to unpack the mechanisms of control in our digital and physical lives—and how to take our power back. We explore surveillance capitalism, Windows 11’s built-in AI and Recall features, workplace monitoring tools, and why open-source alternatives like Linux Mint can help reclaim privacy. We also dive into digital ID, social credit concerns, centralized platforms, AI-driven propaganda, electric vehicles vs. energy resiliency, and the crucial role of community, self-sufficiency, and boycotts over protests. Joost shares concrete steps for de-Googling phones, safer communication options, growing your own food, building local economies, and training body and mind for resilience. The message: stop feeding the beast, choose decentralization, and practice what you preach—together we can reshape the system from the ground up.

Resources and mentions include Linux pathways (CompTIA A+ and Linux+ study guides, Linux Mint, Steam Proton, Bottles), de-Googled Android options and Fairphone, IRC for private chat, and Joost’s free book and site with deeper guides on tech, sovereignty, and community building.

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Skipping   branch   is like scroll, baby.   What if the chaos in your life was never the enemy,   but the music before the harmony?   You're listening to chaos creates harmony, a Dzora Nash production journey through mind,   matter, and meaning.   I'm your host, Rob, and let's step into the beautiful disorder together.   Welcome to another episode of this productions, fellow humans.   Today, we we have episode   one, two, three, one hundred twenty three.   That's pretty amazing.   Wanna keep you updated. I   used my   microphone now that I   connected. The first podcast that I uploaded from Riverside,   on the platforms could be very   shitty   sound. So   terrible. Sorry for that. I'm working on it to get it all performed in the right way, but it's a little bit of figuring out all the stuff.  

This   this strong, I had three podcasts. I did one with Donna.   I did one yesterday with,   Odin,   about wisdom and chaos.   I have to edit that one. I'm going to have a brilliant and I'm just hold on one second before I gonna introduce my guest.   I'm gonna have a brilliant,   strong tomorrow,   Ragnar is going to be to the doctor again because it had some   lights popping up that I do not like, so it's gonna be checked. So it's gonna be 100%   perfect before I go to Switzerland   next Next strong for a little weekend away to France.   And,   today's guest, we had   three times or four times   well, we met each other more times than we hit than than we did podcast for sure.  

Most   viewed and listened to podcast ever   also on other platforms,   because   my guest knows everything from the dark side and from the   the bright side.   He was in several cults.   He,   he battled his life with several addictions.   He lived seven lives in one life lifetime, so to say.   Ladies and gentlemen,   please   a warm welcome for   Joost.  

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Thank you. Thank you.  

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How are you doing, man?  

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Yeah. Doing good. Still,   you know,   living life as it is, given these days.  

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That's all we have to do. Right?   Yeah.   We talked briefly,   like, one, yeah, like, one strong ago   about some topics that pop up as we always do.   And,   I was figuring out, like, what   you know,   you know a lot about   the things that we're gonna talk about in this podcast. Because in this podcast, we wanna deep dive into   the mechanism of control.   And that's not only mind control, that's not only the system that wants to control you, that's not only   the organizations,   whatever they're gonna call them,   that want to control you, but also   how we can   take the power back.  

So,   where should we begin, Yos? Because this is a very nice topic, I think.   We were rolled in   when it came to the control system   about Windows.   I had a,   you're one of my biggest sponsors. I got a computer from you where I do my work on on on my laptop, and it used or it should use a new security update.   And Microsoft basically said, well, it's not gonna be sponsored anymore.   Fortunately,   I uploaded it, so I got one year more   updates.   But then we were talking about, well, maybe it's time to go over to Linux,   the penguins,   because it's an open source,   no virus,   no bullshit like   what Windows try to tell us.  

But I think that's maybe a nice kickoff to to talk a little bit more about   what's the control mechanism   of Windows   and especially  

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Windows 11? Yeah. Yeah.   Well, for first to start off is,   you know, if they wanna control us,   when you look at the digital ID with,   you know, what's happening in The UK and several other parts of the world, in China,   whatever.   To control you digitally,   you need a digital device, which is   either a mobile phone   or   a computer, laptop, tablet,   microchips,   implanted microchips, whatever.   But, right now we live   not in the era yet where microchips   chips will be implanted   yet.   When you read into agenda   2045,   that's the time when they want to have the transhumanist   agenda.  

When your mobile phone is actually implanted in your body instead of being a mobile device, it will be a   implanted device instead.   When you read the books from   Klaus Schwab, the fourth industrial revolution or,   you know, that Harare   guy, they all right about it. That's it's it's going to happen,   technically   wise.   So,   yeah, let let's start with the devices because   every device like your laptop it's,   you got an operating system, Windows on it, which is Microsoft controlled.   When you browse the web, you use Google   Chrome, which is,   you know,   Google, you use Google search engine, which is Google.  

Then you've got social media, all that stuff, which is controlled mostly by Meta these days.   Mhmm. And TikTok is gonna be controlled by Oracle,   in the near future.   So basically all the big tech companies,   this phone for example is Android based.   So this phone is basically controlled by Google.   My computer I am using at the moment is controlled by Microsoft.   And so on and so on and so on. Right. So,   looking   the hardware,   which is which is, you know, the motherboard,   the the the processor units,   the memory,   the hard disk,   and and all the other things, the hardware Yeah.  

Computer. And you got the software,   site, which is, you know, Microsoft and and all the things that people know. Apple, Microsoft, Google.  

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The running system.  

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You know, it's it's either you have an Apple device or you have a Google phone or you have a Windows computer. That's basically   for most people,   the flavors they   know. Right?   Mhmm. And,   me, I got a background in,   IT. I actually have a degree in Microsoft,   Cloud computing, which is basically the future, Microsoft,   fundamentals. And things that I learned is that when it comes to the cloud,   you got Microsoft FIFA, for example, which is for the workplace.   Mhmm. And Microsoft FIFA, they got several components. They got,   Microsoft FIFA engage, which is like   a social media thing, platform, but it's a social media within your,   group, within your workspace. So you work at Coca Cola and you got the Coca Cola internal   social media   platform called FIFA Engage Coca Cola version, you know, just to name an example.  

But there is   also   connected to all that AI and there's also connected to FIFA Insights. And what FIFA Insights does   is FIFA Insights uses your microphone, your webcam.   It it locks every,   keystroke on the keyboard. So if I,   for example, as a joke type, my boss is total cunt,   FIFA Insights will know that I typed that. Even though I did not post it somewhere, it knows that I   clicked those buttons on the computer.   And all that information is stored,   using AI as well   to basically,   you know, at the at the end of every day or week or month have,   statistics on your   performance   and Right. If you work hard enough. And   even if   everybody knows it, you are working one hour straight on a really heavy task and you finished it,   and you just need five minutes to, you know, stare out the window to to get your   focus back up because you had, you know, the the hyper focus for one hour straight and you just need to,   to, you know, regain energy,   get your breath and stuff like that.  

Well, FIFA Insights will   see that you're doing nothing for five minutes.   So it   will elicit this six a   everyday at at nine 9AM or something when you start at 8AM and you got your, you know, your your   busy hour and after that it says, well, for five minutes, he's doing   nothing. Nothing productive for the workforce.   And those kind of things are, in my opinion, really scary.   But what I just talked about is just the workforce,   you know. It's just your managers   seeing how productive you are and, you know,   eventually, they can fire you for not being productive   enough.  

Right. And in the old days, they didn't have the all that information with AI making statistics   about your profile, about what you do.   The webcam will also also keep looking at you if you got your eyes on the screen or somewhere else because,   you know, you gotta keep working, working, working, working.  

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Right.   Work harder. Job said,   we do not want our children to look at the camera on your phone because we got two cameras on our phone. Even if you block one, the other one can track you wherever   it is with Google or Android,   Apple, whatever.   We're gonna talk about that later. Yeah. It's it's really fascinating, Joes. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but,   I saw something like   this one strong ago.   Even,   is she's queen, I think, Maxima.   She said   together with Melanie Trump, almost on the same day,   that children that are born in 2030   will have an implant,   a chip.  

And without that chip, you will not get all the,   let's say, things to benefits of a human being by traveling,   by having a bank account. Everything will be implemented,   in your,   in your child,   child, basically. The thing is it's been told by two people,   I don't know about Melanie Trump, but I sure know that our king,   who was   who's not directly elected, but is just king. But I know for sure that missus Zorrieza,   if you look at that name in Argentina, they don't not they don't like you because   a lot of people disappeared in the regime of, her dad.   But that's, that's maybe for another topic.  

But yes, these people want to control us by saying every time when  

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the   the entire   European   Union, every country,   will have a digital driver's license   by 2030. So that's in, you know, five years from now, even less, you know, the year is almost over. So in four years from now,   you will need a digital   driver's license.   And And what's and it will be on a device that is trackable.   Yes. So not only do they got your driver's license, but they always know where you are   while driving   or even while driving.  

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Yes. It's funny that you that you mentioned this because   your so I got an upgraded ID, not not digital ID, but my ID card for, like, two years ago, a new driver license,   and a passport because I traveled to America and to Peru.   So I can go as a European citizen, which is very comfortable.   I can travel and go to the digital   lane. So I just have to scan my passport.   You see a camera on your face. It's gonna registrate   registrate your biometric system, and then you're ready to go or not.   The same thing goes if you do what I do on some websites.   You have to   fill in your   stuff,   and then you can scan with the back of your phone   your ID card so it scans all the data which is on it. Basically, it's your social security number and all that stuff. So we already integrated   in that process of being controlled.  

Now, do we want to be controlled in that kind of fashion? That's the right question. Right?  

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Yeah. And   I think the answer is really simple. If you look at, you know, the eighties and the nineties,   do you remember what,   an ID card looked back then? It was just a piece of paper   with some plastic foil around it. Right. It wasn't even like a a card. It was just a piece of paper with a picture,   a real picture, just,   you know,   paste it on it with some plastic around it. Right. Really simple, really basic.   And it worked back   then. You know, it was your ID card and you could use it everywhere. People would check it.   And, you know, there was a social security number on it for the police and for, you know,   the government and what whatever. And it worked. So   we don't need the digital ID   because for for many years,   you know, World War two, they even have the the normal passports, you you know? All the way till,   you know, the the the early two thousands.  

It worked   without a digital system.   Well, the funny thing is  

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the funny thing is they want to control   so called so called these the immigration.   Although now,   people come illegally   in all the countries.   So they so so so the the these legal people will not will say, like, okay. Now I am for such and such long time in whatever country I am.   Now let me have a legal   document so you can track me. So the funny thing is they tell it because of the immigration, but the   immigration,   but the people that are in the country that can provide   the the Social Security number, their driver license, their passport, their ID, that that's all been already been   there. They are going to be screwed because they will say, like, oh,   wait a minute. You had some meat?  

Well, you can't afford yourself, like,   some ships or whatever for   for going out or or, you know, you can't drink Coca Cola. You have to drink Coca Cola because you're you lost your credits.   The thing is, we see that already, this control system   implanted   in our daily lives. And the funny thing is and the most frustrating thing for me   is that people rely on this, oh, but it's easy, right?   So I remember that we we just had cash.   You have to go to the bank to get some money. You always had cash.   Oh, it's gonna be very easy to have a card.   Well, now you got the card, but now you can get your cash.  

So even if you're a millionaire or you have, like, €100,000   in your bank account, you go to the bank, you say I need 5,000 to do whatever the fuck I want. No. You have to tell them why you need the money.   Yes. That's crazy, man.  

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It's already not your money anymore.   No.   And I even read that, European Union,   they   are voting for a law to use   all people's savings   to   invest in the European Union. So all the money you got saved right now,   they can use   however they want it, for whatever they want it.   And one of the things they mentioned they are gonna use it for is for World War three.   So they are gonna steal our money   to buy weapons to attack Russia and China and and all those countries. So, yeah, that's that's how much freedom we got with the money we earn.  

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Zero Zero freedom. The the thing is that there are a lot of these things that are, of course,   frustrated by a lot of people. Right? So a lot of people are frustrated about that fact.   The thing   is, if we feed the beast, whatever beast system it is, but let let's call it the beast.   If we feed it with the information that it needs to survive,   it will still continue doing its thing.   But I can guarantee you if, like, 10,000   or 100,000   people go to their bank and say, like, we demand our money back right now,   they will be bankrupt.  

The same goes for a system.   As long as we pay taxes and don't do anything,   nothing is gonna happen for the normal people. Maybe for the few people that are making millions and millions of dollars that can get away with   it? Maybe.   But if you have   right now   a system   where 100,000   people   will not pay any taxes anymore,   the system will   fall   because it's driven by the things that are gonna be collected by taxes.   And,   we have a lot of friends that are already doing,   things with the taxes like, no.   No. I I   already paid.   How many times do you see,   and are you frustrated   by   you   earn $1   or €1,   doesn't matter,   you pay taxes   for that, then you're gonna buy something. You have to pay taxes of that. And if you buy something that's gonna be very nice, you have to pay property taxes, income taxes, whatever. So from that €1   or $1,   maybe 20¢   is really reliable money   if it's not to be inflated enough.  



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Crazy chimes,   man. But what you were mentioning earlier about the 100,000   people saying fuck the system,   I saw a documentary   and the documentary,   looked at,   historical   events in the past.   And   what the numbers are saying is that when 5%   of humanity says fuck the system   and they lay down their work,   they stop going to work, they stop   doing the bullshit things the system wants them to.   The system will change because   that 5%   will have   a   bigger, you   know, bigger   reaction to the system.   Yeah.   Then people imagine. It only takes 5%   of the people to change the world. Only 5%.  

And they in their documentary, they were showing a lot of examples,   historical events.   And the thing is those 5%   of people   must go on the streets.   Block every street, block every government building, and just stand there.   They don't even have to use finance. They just have to stand there.   5% of the people stand   around   the government   buildings. I think. And, yeah, that's that's quite fascinating to to know that 5% of the people could   make such a world changing event. So we only need   world changing event.   So we only need 5%. That's all all all we need when it comes to the the entire system   to shake it around.  



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Well,   the the problem comes   if if you have 5%, seven, or 10%.   Yes. We will be the majority that say stop it.   The the powers that should not be,   still have control   until they have control,   over the military   and the police.   And not only that, also by laws that you see nowadays popping up that make no sense   to defend them, to protect   them.   So the thing is, if we would all agree upon,   and that's a hard thing,   all agree upon that the system sucks and the system is sick,   but we need to also have a solution   for a new system.   So we can say how to bring a system to the knees to make it fall,   but we also have to come up with some,   good things like, okay, if this system sucks and fails,   how we gonna   build a new society   that's fruitful   and   happy   and enjoyable   for most people?  

Yeah.   Because Yeah. So what what are your thoughts about that?  

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Well,   you know, we already talked about that when we were talking about my book.   And that's   I believe that you gotta do both things at the same time.   One thing is,   already put systems into place and when it comes to the computer and a mobile phone, we will discuss   that part in a moment.   But we already gotta build systems into place. Grow your own food because,   right now, they are buying out all the farmlands because they wanna control the food supply.   Because   when you control the water and the   food, you control the people.   Mhmm. So you gotta create your own water. I mean, it rains in The Netherlands, like, every single day.  

It's like there's plenty of water to have your own water. Right?   Right. So water isn't a problem. The the only problem we got, we don't grow our own food. So use your garden or use,   windowsill,   farming, you know? Get some pots and plants on your windowsill, grow some tomatoes, grow grow some Yeah. Permaculture.   Cu cu yeah. Exactly.   Yeah.   And not only think horizontal, but only think vertical   growing. Mhmm. You know those vertical planters where you can have like a hundreds of plants growing up in the in the air? Yeah. Like a few buckets stapled together and then you make holes in it and then the plants come out like that.   Exactly. Yeah. So that that's also an option. So   while we   built our own   system so that we got enough food, we,   also get some legal weapons.  

I mean,   you can have a piece of wood. Right? That's that's legal.   You can have some nails. Right? That's   legal. You can smash those nails into the wood plank to get, you know, like a mace. A homemade mace. Like a medieval   'huyendag' as we call it. You can build that. And it's  

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a 100% legal to have, to own. No. No. I think it's not. But but the thing is,   and I got your point, and I really like to talk about it. So   when you are already having   thoughts about building your own community or whatever,   and   you have to   fight for it,   even with these, like, a slingshot system   that   has   fully, automatically weapons or drones   or whatever.   So if you're gonna create a new system   that's gonna be interesting for the people that are controlling us right now or do obey   the controllers   right now,   and they say, like, fuck them,   I think it all comes down not only by   planting our own food and take care of the water supply, whatever.  

I think it comes down to communities.   If you have a big community and they talked about it already in,   in several,   topics and and podcasts,   like, if you do not, have your digital ID or your work,   digital or you do not,   have the CBDC,   whatever,   you're out of the system.   Fine.   But out of the system,   you will get new medieval   things. There's a castle with all the people that are working for the the lord,   working for for the king, whatever fucker that there's gonna be obeying,   and you have the people that are living outside that society.   But they have to communicate with each other about the food, about things.  

So you're gonna you're going to be basically back in a in a system that's   as old as it is, community.  

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And then you can grow in your own food. Trading as  

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well. Yes. Trading but also having a nomadic life because,   you have to chase the seasons. You have to look for the pieces of land where you can grow some crops and then you have to   that whole nomadic thing   that we had in the early days   is completely been taken away from us from so called security to have a job, to have money, so you have a bar a car so you can drive to your job. You want a house?   Here here we got a house. You you will be stuck. You got your mortgage. You got your taxes. You got all the   shit right here.  



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Yeah. And another really important thing,   go to gym and go learn martial arts because we   are going up against times where you need to be able to defend yourself.   When you look at,   most refugees   going into Europe,   they are military   aged   men.   Men aged 18 till 30.   So   if more come in   with their crazy   radical IDs   Mhmm.   We might get a a civil war. And if you are not ready yet to defend yourself,   you are fucked.   Because when, you know, a group of 30,   let's say, Moroccan people   run at you angry,   and and you don't know how to defend yourself, and you are just, you know, living your life, you are fucked.   Even when you are 30 people   against those 30 people. Because those 30 people, they are prepared for war and we aren't. So   be as prepared as they are.  

Just in case. Yes. I I I don't say   look for the war. Don't don't go for it.   But be,   be able to   see it coming and be be prepared to   defend yourself   if   that situation,   scenario   is coming.  

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Yeah. Somehow, the the audio cuts out on my side sometimes, it seems. I don't know if I'm   do you understand me if I'm talking? Yes. Yes. I still hear you.   Yeah?   Okay. So I don't okay. But but yes. So I do agree with you when it comes to that, but we have to be very careful because the system   that's been screwing   we   have something like, oh, we are the elites that screwed up, but now you're fighting.   I'm going to be over here, over there, whatever the fuck they're gonna go. So   I   yes. And I think   even with the with the people that are from the military,   if it's gonna be an immigrant or not, if you have the right   mindset of the community,   then they also   will join that community   to fight against that system.  

Because that system is gonna provide them probably shelter and food   so they can go to war for them.   But we should not allow   to have a political   if it's gonna be a president or a king or a party   that's gonna tell you to go to war   and not being able to do that by themselves.   I'm thinking about,   Johnny Goes to Hollywood. No? What was the name? Frankie Goes to Hollywood with two tribes go to war.   In the early days when,   what's it? Reagan was in the in   the with Yeltsin, I think, where, the the smash no. The puppets. Oh, fuck.   Help me out, Yost.  



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Clinton or Yeltsin?   Or  

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No. No. It was from Frankie Goes to Hollywood, the band.   Two traps go to war. That was Reagan   and whatever. Gorbachev. For I think of Gorbachev. Gorbachev. Yes.   These were the purpose that will go to war in a in a in a fist fight.   And I think that that there there is also a time right now,   even when we look at a lot of things that could be dark,   that,   are positive because because of these things, these   crazy things that happening right now and things that they say and want,   a lot of people are waking up like, what?   Wait a minute.  

That's not where I signed up for.   Yeah. So yeah.   Yeah.  

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But a great example of people   following the system,   you know,   for 100%,   even when killing,   innocent civilians   would be the IDF from Israel. Those those soldiers are brainwashed from childhood   all the way until the military to just kill innocent   women, children, whatever.   You know, the Israeli IDF.   And   people are capable of being brainwashed   that much to actually hate   civilians, their own neighbors, their own, you   know, being controlled that much that they hate their own neighbors and they are willing to kill them.   So that's a great example of how propaganda  

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works. I don't know. Is this on my end or your end?   I hear I don't hear you talking anymore, Joost.  

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Oh.  

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Now I do, but I don't know what's going on. Why that is. Shit.   Let me see.   Okay. Sorry. So IDF. Yes.   We see the same thing going on with ICE.   We see the same going on with the Gestapo,   in in 04/4045.   And The UK. Same going on. We see the same thing going on if you have a   a a   silenced or nonviolent   protest.   You will be getting kicked the shit out by some policeman that just goes to work   and   really likes it to smash somebody's face who is not   who is not,   weapons,   doesn't have any weapons on him. Let's say   that we would have some weapons, then   that would be a fair fight. But that's not because they take away the weapons from all the people in Europe and also in America.  

Yeah. You do not have the right to bear arms or whatever,   as you have in America and some places.   So that's a very bad thing because   you have   basically a tyranny   or dictatorship that has all the weapons   to not only give you control, but to, yes, basically to kill you if you're do not agree with the system.  

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Yeah. And talking about the system, talking about the the   police,   Greenpeace,   you know, Greenpeace, the big big,   how do you call that?  

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Yeah.   Anyways,  

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what he did, he walked up to the police and he said,   I support genocide. I support   Israel. I support genocide. I support Israel.   And then he asked I saw that. And then he asked, can I say this stuff? And the   meanwhile, someone was   arrested for supporting   Palestine.  

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Yeah. Just for supporting. Not saying anything, but just supporting Palestine.  

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Just for sitting there. Just for sitting.   That person was only sitting there. And the Greenpeace person was like like,   you're telling me that I got the freedom of speech, but meanwhile, someone who isn't even speaking,   just sitting there is getting arrested. Like,   why?   What's what's wrong with this picture?   So the UK police right now or like the Gestapo, like the SS, like,   Himmler, you know, they they all the same thing. It's not only in The UK. It's everywhere.  

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So so we had already some laws   where you,   can talk about some things. I'm not gonna mention that because I I I I am a rebel, and I wanna wanna get some   the the   when you have   people,   not to mention what kind of people, what kind of religion, what kind of culture, whatever, that   I've been protected   by law,   protected by law,   then we got a fucking problem.   Because   let's say,   if you look at Hitler,   when he came to Munich or in Berlin   where, like, 1,500,000   people were cheering for him,   if you are nowadays   a prime minister   and you can achieve the same thing, I would say, like, wow.  

Most of them are afraid   to get outside because they're gonna get killed   because too many people are against their system.   Right?   Yeah. But,   yes, we have to be very careful what we're saying,   which makes me very uncomfortable because I think that,   not only disorganized productions, but podcasting   and and being me general   general   me, authentic me. I just wanna say what I wanna say and   open up the discussion about these kind of topics.   Because if we are   not willing   to talk about it or to   if we are willing to avoid topics because they are too controversial,   then   what were you talking about? Right? So shall shall we talk about the weather?  

Yeah. Or we can't say that's manipulated and been, you know, sprayed on. Or we can't talk about food because this is healthy and this isn't. So we we can't talk about nothing.   Exactly. And I   think   I think, one of the biggest tools that we can use,   against the big tech   is to use it for things like we do right now to get in a conversation about things and,   just basically say what's on our mind and put a disclaimer like these are our opinions.   It's not like, you know,   that we we turn them to hate for whatever or to kill people or to do this or to do that.   But it's a very   controversial topic, of course.  



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Yeah. And one last thing I want to add about the police these days, what they are doing and what's,   the military is doing, you know, killing innocence of innocent people and stuff like that.   For that, you gotta watch the movie. I can hear you.   You can't hear me?  

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No. Why is that?   This is so when you started,  

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Can you hear me?   Can you can you hear me now?  

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Now now I do hear you. Yeah.  

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Okay.   Somewhere.   So, yeah, talking about the police and stuff like that and the military,   you know,   committing in genocide and whatever, even the   American military,   attacking Iraq and stuff like that.   Have you ever watched the movie, Dust Experiment?   The experiment. Several times. Yeah. They   put two groups Yeah.   In a   experimental   prison.   One of them will be the guards, the other two will be the prisoners. And the prisoners gotta stir up some shit, cause chaos. That's their job.   And the guards, they gotta   remain order over the chaos.   And eventually, the experiment goes so wrong that they are actually,   abusing   the prisoners.  

And I think even a person died during the experiment.   It was just a social experiment, but it went so wrong   that   someone   died. I think or at least   injured really bad or something like that. But that experiment   really happened.   And I think it was a social experiment to see how far can can we get people into doing stuff.   And that was just role playing in a prison. It was a role play.   And they were willing to actually physically hurt,   you know, their co   workers in the experiment? Like,  

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what is With their their colleagues and their friends.  

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What the fuck is wrong with people? That's that's   the thing I want to add. Well,  

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people are willing to   treat other people like shit if it's beneficial   for them for food, shelter, or power.   That's it.   Yeah.   So even   I say in in the beginning of my care career,   people are even willing to go over dead bodies for job procurement.   So if they know, like, oh, oh, Robin Yost, these are my two colleagues. Well, oh, wait a minute. Yost is a very,   intellectual,   clever guy.   I have to put myself in a position so he can get away, so I can get his position or, you know, so that's why they,   probably,   manipulate,   blackmail,   even do horrible things to get that position or,   because it's job security as I said.  

Yeah. The the thing   is, if if we are all equal,   which is probably   impossible, but but in my opinion, every human being is equal and nobody stands above me because  

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I am the fucking emperor. Everybody's equal, no body is the  

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same. Yes. And it says every book says that if you look at religious books or at cultures, like,   you you you can't say that you are above someone. So even   if you talk about policemen, they're thinking to to stand above the law because they know some things that they   bring up.   Well, you're not above me. Sorry for that.   Not above any other human.   But that's where   control comes especially when it comes to fear, to,   chaos.   And that's what they try to do right now.  

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Exactly. So   So, yeah.   We had a lot of discussions   about what's coming, what might come,   civil war, world war three,   CBDC,   digital identity. It doesn't matter. Those are things   some things are definitely coming and some things   might be coming.   Right? Mhmm. But,   yeah. Let's let's let's talk   take the turn into the positive.   We already discussed   community building.   Find your own tribe.   Grow your own food.   It's it's raining here every day, so it's easy to get   water. You know?   It's really easy to get water. So those things,   I already written about a lot in my book.  

And, yeah, those were the easy things.   But we started the podcast   about   the mobile device and the computers. Mhmm.   So, yeah, let's dive into solutions,   about,   you know, mobile devices and computers. Because like I said,   they are either owned by Apple, Google, or Microsoft.   Those three   big tech companies are controlling your devices.   As you know, as of   the fourteenth this month,   support of Windows 10 stopped.   So people have to upgrade   to Windows elevens.  

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Yes. Sorry to interrupt you, Joss. But I see that when you're talking that,   the parameter is is is showing that you're talking, but I can't hear you for the first few seconds and then I hear popping up the the the,   the sound. Oh, man.   Let me try.  

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But I think it it it will upload   because  

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Yeah. No. I'm not going to get out, but I'm trying to   get my connection going with my   hearing aid. Maybe that's the the whole thing.  

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Could you please say something? Sorry for listening. Yeah. Because, you know, the software is I can't hear you. See The software is showing,   And now   You know, I see my volume meter going, up and down when I talk. So it's it is recording. So I see your meter going up and down, but I don't hear any sound.   It's it's  

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it seems like it's cutting out for a few seconds and then   Probably it's a Bluetooth  

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causing it.  

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Okay. So that's my hearing aid. So if I don't have my hearing aid in, I  

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Bluetooth isn't perfect.  

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And Some control system.  

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For example, I tried a Bluetooth controller and every now and then it just   doesn't pick up what I click on my controller while gaming.   For example, so that's, that's probably the thing that's happening. It's a Bluetooth,   and Bluetooth is like a radio signal. So it's, you know, if there's other Bluetooth devices around you, it might jam or  

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Okay. So that could be the problem.   Sorry for that listener for a little interruption.   I just want to figure it out because I know it's very   frustrating when some things are not working like I want to or like you were listening to. So please continue, Juss. I just let let you talk.   Yes. We talked about community and stuff like that, so please go ahead with, with your train train of thought.  

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Yeah. Like I said, the community thing, I we already discussed my book. I got a lot of solutions in it, so people should just download that and read it and read   about growing their own food whatever. But,   where I left off was   Windows because   the first thing I wanna discuss is Windows devices.   Or even Apple computers. Just a computer, laptop or, you know, desktop, laptop, whatever.   As of the fourteenth this month, the support of Windows 10   dropped.   Especially in The US,   people don't get,   security updates anymore.   And if your operating system doesn't get security updates,   if new,   exploits   or   weaknesses   within   the operating system Windows is,   you know, detected by hackers and whatnot,   they can use those exploits because they won't get updates anymore. It's like   you got a wall, but there are a couple of cracks in the wall and hackers know where to find those cracks to break down the wall at the exact   spot of the crack.  

And with the security Updates they will patch those cracks. They will put some plaster on it or whatever and it's, you know, the wall is a wall again.   So if you don't get updates   for your Windows 10 device,   it will be unsafe to use. Not right now, but in the near future, it will already be an unsafe device.   For the,   users in The US, they can buy extra support for Windows 10, which will cost around 30   US   dollars. Mhmm. And they will get one year of updates. Only one year.   In Europe, we can get one year for free   in exchange for giving all our information to Microsoft. So we have to   log in with our Hotmail or with our Microsoft account, and then we,   agree to to, you know, you gotta click agree and nobody reads that bullshit because it's like, you know, it's thicker than the Bible what you gotta read. So people are like, I'm not gonna read that. I clicked agree and I want that year of support.  

So they get a year of fuck.   They get the year of support and meanwhile,   Microsoft will track you   for that year.   The only thing is,   you can upgrade to Windows 11   if you got a device that's five years old or younger. But most people, they years old or younger.   But most people, they got a 10 year old PC on, a six year old PC or  

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maybe even older. It's working, so let's do it. Right?  

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So it won't   be able to get an upgrade to Windows 11.   So those computers   are either becoming e waste or   people will stick to Windows 10 with all the dangers of,   you know, the cracks in the wall which I talked about.   So Right. People can hack you, whatever.   So you got one layer year extended support for Windows 10. That's that's option one. You either buy with your privacy or you buy $30 like in   The US. Those are the two options. That's crazy.   If you got a computer that can be upgraded to Windows 11,   you will have an operating system that has built in artificial intelligence. It will be automatically   built into your system.  

Not only does Windows 11 have AI that which basically controls every software   you use within Windows,   which is also tracking you because,   the AI needs to track you to be able to give you an answer to question you have about the program you are using. So it will collect data on what you are doing,   and then it will give feedback on what you are doing. That's how AI works. AI   can only work if it got information   feedback from you.   That's your information   and will give it back. Windows 11 also has a Recall version. A Recall   is basically,   a functionality   within Windows 11 that,   let's say,   one year ago my Windows 11 PC was perfect.  

But today,   it's not working   well. Then I can go back   to the moment one year ago   and where where it was perfect.   So I can recall.   But using that recall function, it will collect everything. It will even collect,   screenshots,   all your passwords,   all your   banking   info.   It   makes a screenshot every one second of your screen,   but it will also take pictures with your webcam. It will record your microphone.   Basically,   everything   will be stored   to have that recall function   function functional.   Because   you can go back in time at any position you wanna go back in time.   However, that information will also be sent to Microsoft.  

Even if if you swap out your wiener in front of the webcam, Bill Gates will have a picture of your wiener  

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flopping it out. I think he has a lot of my dick pictures in his office for sure.   Because that little pervert really wants yeah.   But that's scary. To my only fans, motherfucker.  

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That's scary, isn't it? If a function like that is implemented   in your operating system.   Yes.   So   Connect to AI. Connected to AI.   Building a profile  

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of you. Yes. It's scary.   But but then again, we want to to put it into positive thing.   So for people that are screwing it up or they have a lot of data on a on a computer, work on a computer like a normal   law abiding citizen,   they have business on a computer, they have the bank accounts, all the stuff is integrated already   in a digital system.   So   when shit happens to your computer and you can find back data from a year ago, even   they see all the things,   it could be a very good solution because   we see   that the so called system where they build on the whole digital bullshit   is not stable at all.  

So I was getting on a podcast on Monday, and we had a AWS, so it's solar flare   kind of thing, and it took out Amazon. It took out a lot of other big companies.   So the question is, a solar flare,   I would think it would be hotter,   the temperature would rise here on Earth, but no, it takes out   with electromagnetism,   it takes out our electric   circuits, our electric devices.  

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Yeah. It's like an EMP, an electromagnetic   pulse which  

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basically crashes Yes. So what is the sun?   Okay. You know more about that than than I do.   I think if I go   outside,   I feel the sun, I feel if it's gonna be hot today or it's not.   But I don't feel like buzzing around me because of the electromagnetic   field of the sun.   If the sun is burst out with this plasma gas that it does because it's a plasma giant as they say,   I would think like, oh, it's it's closer to us,   so we're gonna be warmer. No. It's like an EMP, electric magnetic pulse.   What the fuck is the sun,   Joost?  



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Yeah. You know, it's it's   the most obvious answer is energy.   You know, and energy Yes. But energy can destroy. Even water can destroy.   Water can destroy a whole city.  

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Yes. Water is most devastating   than than than fire.   I'm not sure about that.  

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So But Water is energy, but the sun as well. It's it's energy and it's electricity. So so here comes the thing.  

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And that's why I wanted to introduce you to this to this fact from the sun and all that stuff that they wanna try from NASA. Okay?   If they really   knew   or know   that the sun is not causing all these problems,   why would you build a system   that could be taken out in seconds?   Why would you do that?   If you want to control   every single human being on Earth,   you want to have   a system   that's steady   and stable.   But you can also, of course, still manipulate and control the people by giving them fear.   Yeah. And when people are in fear, they wanna give loose control.   So every single time when we see something happening   where the whole world is talking about, we see new laws popping up this next day. So these fucking fuckers,   they know exactly what they're doing.  

And that's been all over history.   But what I'm trying to say is,   if you build a mansion   next to the shoreline of San Francisco   and the bank system with all the information of whoever   knows that that's   a region that's gonna collapse,   it won't   give you the mortgage because it's too unstable.   Right?   Yeah. So the water lever is not gonna rise up with your with your climate change bullshit or whatever. The climate is changing. Yes.   But   the the the big insurance companies, the banks, the investors   will not allow   to drown   literally their money   because of some kind of   bullshit that happens.  

Yeah. What you see is the control   of the fear around all these topics.   That's it's controlling.  

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And climate So once again Climate Climate has always been changing. Look at the the Mammoths. Of course. During the, you know, the Ice Age.   All the Mammoths died.   Dinosaurs died during,   different climates.  

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I don't believe in dinosaurs.  

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Yeah. But, you know, it's it's   the   ice age was there. The the the the hotter periods were there. It's   you know, there's Yeah.  

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So the thing is   and nowadays, that's that's not a control system.   What to believe?   The the AI has been going   mad. The last couple two years,   two years, you could see something that was called   CGI,   you know, something. Oh,   oh, that looks fancy, but it's not true because I see a ship that's been taken away by a dragon.   But now   you don't even know if the so I saw something popping up from Michael   Jackson. Bloody blow is dead.   And all of a sudden, it's it's it's right there. AI completely generated. Like, what?  

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So Even the voice and the face what? True. Yeah.  

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Everything.  

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Every we are going into a time where we can't believe what we are seeing with our eyes when it's on   the screen.   So we can only believe what we see with our real eyes in the physical world. But because everybody is scrolling their Instagram, we are already seeing a fake world that isn't there.   And a lot of people, that's that's most fun fact,   I see I get AI videos as well on my feed. And I see people responding to it   emotionally because they think it's real and they are all, wow, why is that guy doing that and blah blah blah. But it's just   AI and people are getting upset.  

So imagine if they got an AI video   of Putin,   you know,   killing a child or something like that in an AI video.   Then people will be like, wow, we gotta kill that man. We gotta go to war. We gotta stop this. Even if it's AI.   You know, that's how you get people to war with propaganda. And   AI is one of the strongest tools of propaganda we got at this moment because people are way too fucking retarded   to see the difference now from AI to to to what's real.   I still see it when it's something is AI. You, for example, you have a lot of,   videos with Klaus Schwab from the World Economic Forum saying stuff he never said.  

But it looks really real and it sounds real, but I saw   the user clip from   a close-up video that I watched on the World Economic Forum website, but they   Mhmm. Did some AI stuff with him saying other things. And I'm like,   well, I I saw that exact video,   like, you know, a couple days ago or a year ago. He wasn't saying this. He was saying something similar, but he wasn't saying exactly this.   So even that, even   against people like   evil professor Klaus Schwab   or   fake these days. So it's like   yeah.   And people are way too retarded to see the difference   between AI and and something that's real because it's really easy to manipulate people these days,   unfortunately. Right.  



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I I saw even that cap cut if you are a creator.   I call myself,   well, probably I'm a creator because I make some videos on on CapCut. I I I used to work a lot with it that,   I think in March or June   2025,   you gave away your rights so they can use me,   my voice,   my being with   AI to promote whatever the fuck they wanna promote.   And now comes the funny thing, you can so so maybe I will be on   TV promoting,   you know,   mental hair mental health pills, whatever the fuck, or   or barber stuff because they now have the allowance   to   get all the data that you collect   to put it on a platform, and you're not gonna get anything from that. So   I think that's gonna   be back with what I'm trying to say with the Microsoft thing.  

These big tech companies   are stealing   our freedom maybe more than the government does. The the government is is is a is is that,   the government is that fucking moaning, complaining,   mosquito   that you probably do not see, only you scratch some times after you slept.   And maybe when you go to sleep and all of a sudden it goes,   and then you have to slap the fucking face out of it. Right? Yeah. But the thing is with,   these these tech companies, these are probably the   the,   the bad ones, you know, the The biggest threat. Yes.  

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The biggest threat. Yes. Yep. For for Let me hook let me hook into that real quick.   We were discuss discussing   digital ID and a digital passport and a passport and a microchip and whatever.   A digital ID   contains not only   your fingerprints, not only your iris and face scan,   it will also eventually have your DNA.   But even worse, it will have a profile on you.   Because   your Digital ID will also be necessary   in the future for your social media.   So it will   make an AI profile   of everything you say and everything you do. And when you go to gym, have your smartwatch   for   your, you know, your heartbeat and stuff like that. Never use those things. You don't need a smartwatch.  

I mean, all the,   gym equipment have have a heart rate   thing on it. Right? You don't need you don't you don't need a stupid watch to to count your steps.   But the scary thing is, with the AI Digital ID, they basically got a digital   copy   of   you. So there's not only you as an identity and your soul and your spirit and your physical body,   but there is an exact   copy of you.   And they can use the copy of you, the the data of you,   especially when AI movies and and and and videos get way better.   They can put you   in a situation where you kill someone   while you're not there. Your digital   copy, is there a present at the Charlie Kirk execution   shooting Charlie Kirk from close by?  

Because they got all the information they need.   They got your profile, they got your DNA, they got everything to digitally   let you kill someone.   Just to name an example.  

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Awesome.   I just want to swear a little bit in in Dutch.   I   I don't know why why this cuts out with the with so I hear you, but sometimes I do not know the beginning of the sentence that and it bothers me a little bit. But, yes,   the the   the the copy paste of the new generation   maybe our own,   you know, the the the   triple what's it called? The the   okay.   Train of thoughts.   If you   listeners   like this episode and   you wanna know more about this kind of stuff, I swear to god, I played the best game ever.   That's Watch   Dogs one,   two, and three where you're basically   hacking against the system and you see everything that we're talking about right now.  

Even in the last one, the, I think it's called,   Legion.   It's in 2045   London,   kept up driving with no people in it. I saw that already on San Francisco and in Los Angeles,   cargo   drones,   police drones, news drones,   parcel drones,   and, basically, you have a system that's based on   control.   But here comes the kicker.   You are a hacker in all these games. You have an app.   Now ask Chachibuty   about it.   You got an app and you can scan people's devices,   you get their code, you know what what bank account that they have, and, you can get some money out of it so you can be   a better hacker.  

You you can,   get into systems so   you   can get into the camera. And with that camera, you can go to another   camera. So that's how you   lay out the   field where you're gonna explore.   But here comes the thing. I asked Chad GPT about this, and it's 85%   close to the truth about the things that we can already do   right now.  

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And can I hook into that?   Because,   I always love to do a little presentation.   I got this little device, it's called a Flipper Zero.   And this device has a lot of radio signals, even Bluetooth.   Basically if I got the right software on this, I can even hack your earplugs,   your hearing aid,   with this device.   And you can even,   as you can see, put in,   different   sort of hardware, like,   a really big antenna to to hack,   five g tower or something like that. So   it's a really small tool. It looks like it's it's a Game Boy or something, you know, to play video games on, but this is actually a fucking hacking tool.   And you can even, hack,   garage doors that use Bluetooth, you know, for and and even,   open Tesla cars and stuff like that with the right software.  

So this thing is really, it can also copy,   RFID   things like,   a credit card or something. So this can even copy a credit card or a bank pass or whatever.   You can even copy, I think, the digital stuff on your passport right now just by holding it against it and and and click a button on it which says copy.   So, what you said about watch gloves? Yeah. I I I got the device right here.   It's called a  

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Flipper Zero. Yeah. So so the thing is that this is only mentioned by a game that I really like, but I think that a lot of movies are telling us what's   it going to be.   The the problem is with, the perception of giving someone a projection of,   so called reality like movie.   Once you get that in your mind, you are creating that reality for yourself.   So,   yes, I played a lot of games in the early days, and I really like this game because it was also a little bit scary because of the future and,   we always like people that are the bad guys. Right? Nobody likes a hero that's just a pussy. We like heroes that are going to against the beast, against the system. But,   what about that you're listening right now to this, podcast and think like, wait a minute. Probably I am or I should be the hero, I should stand up against this bee system,   I should be saying no,   I should be avoiding taxes,   I should be educate myself about the possibilities that there are to,   travel freely without any problems,   or saying in the right group of people the things that you wanna say without being shutting down or been put into prison basically.  

Yeah. Crazy times, man.  

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So, yeah, I wanna   quickly, if you like,   give some solutions to the Windows ten, eleven thing we were discussing.   Absolutely. Because,   one thing is, and you gotta need this book for it, CompTIA A plus Certification.   It's basically a book. Book, it costs,   it's an official book, study book to get a CompTIA A plus Certificate.   And it's a study that teaches you about how a computer   basically works and how software works in general.   I think it's really important because people see AI or a computer as something magical, but but when you read a book like CompTIA A plus you   learn that it's not magical, but technical. It's more like math and and stuff like that.  

So that's one of the things I would advise people. First, learn what how the computer works and how you can,   build your own computer because it even teaches you that,   how to build and fix your own computers.   Secondly, like I said, it's either Windows 10   or Windows 11 and both will,   you know, spy on you.   However, there is another option.   Especially those computers that won't get Windows 11 support.   There is always   Linux   and you have a book   again, a study book, CompTIA,   C O M   P T I A.   The A plus is about computers and this one is about Linux plus and it basically teaches you   how to work with Linux and how Linux Linux works. And Linux is like   Windows,   but it's open source, so So it's not controlled by   anyone.  

The entire community of programmers   worldwide   are con contributing   to   evolving Linux, basically.   So nobody actually owns Linux   except,   you know,   everybody.   Everybody owns it and everybody can work on it. And it's open source, so you you can also   see,   how the security is. And and people say it's   100 times more secure than Windows will ever be.   Because when you have Windows, every door is open.   Microsoft has, the three eyes,   thing that the FBI, CIA, and the NSA can always keep their eyes on everything that's Microsoft.   Linux doesn't have that because it's open source so they can't force the three eyes on Linux.  

Because people   Right. There are two other books that I would advise.   The Linux Command Line   to learn about the command line because it's more technical   than than Windows   and the book How Linux Works.   So   there are those two books. It's it's like,  

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prompts and commands and stuff like that that you have to give to Linux.  

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However,   when you got Linux Mint,   the Linux that I am using,   you don't need that because Linux Mint,   has everything   already pre packaged in the installer. So it already has all the drivers like your webcam,   webcam, keyboard, mouse, video cards, you know, for gaming.   Even more funny, I tested it out with a really cheap, gaming controller from the Action,   store   here in Netherlands. Right. It was a,   €20,   like like $20   gaming controller that looks like the Xbox controller,   which doesn't come with any drivers and it's wireless as well. So,   I booted up Linux, I put in,   a USB   Bluetooth adapter so that my PC would have Bluetooth.  

Newer computers have Bluetooth on the motherboard but this one didn't have it. So I put in a USB Bluetooth adapter.   Instantly Linux was like you now got Bluetooth.   I was okay, don't have to do any command line whatsoever. Just plug it in and it worked.   And then I was like, now I got this controller. So I was like,   clicking the connect button on the controller and   on Linux, I opened the the menu for Bluetooth and I was searched for devices and instantly said   Bluetooth controller found. And I was like, yes, connect.   And it was instantly working without any   drivers, without any   troubleshooting whatsoever. It just worked. The webcam, it just worked. I didn't have to do   any driver or whatever.  

Gaming, I installed Steam on Linux Mint.   Every   game, which only runs on Windows and not on Linux,   was automatically   running on Linux thanks to Steam. Because Steam,   has a tool called Proton. So when you install,   Steam on Linux,   the Proton tool will automatically   translate a Windows application to Linux.   So you don't even have to,   do workarounds   or troubleshooting for that. It instantly   runs.   And it's it's extremely secure. So Linux Mint, I would tell people get that version.   Because it's open source   and it works out of the box, basically.   And you have everything in it. You have LibreOffice, so we have your LibreOffice   Word, Excel,   PowerPoint, but it's called different. It's called Writer and it's called Careful. Right.  



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But it's the same So so what should you do? Because   I I asked Riverside,   the the software I'm I'm trying to use with right now. The the that's the word trying to use right now, if it's gonna be suitable for me   time,   time wise, energy wise,   if they also have this   on a Linux platform. They don't have that right now. So what would be the future, let's say, in one year when,   Windows 10 is not gonna be supported anymore,   and the software that you're using or the things that you're using   are not backed up by Linux.   Are there alternatives   or are there things like because I know if you put Linux,   on a computer and you start up YouTube, you don't have the ads and all that bullshit. Yeah.  



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Right? Right. Well   Now you gotta go to the Penguin. When it comes to Windows software,   there are always workarounds to get it working on Linux. So   I think Riverside, even though they don't have native Linux support, native means   they developed, Linux   version   of Riverside.   Right. So they don't have native support, but   Linux has,   applications that can make it able to run Windows applications under Linux.   Oh.   So you can still run it. Software.   It will emulate the software that can read it. Yeah. It will emulate Sorry to interrupt you. Yeah. It it will emulate Windows. So it's basically like  

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you you are on the Windows machine, but you aren't on a Windows machine, if you know what I mean. Right. And So sorry to interrupt you because because sometimes I think that you're not talking anymore, but then the the sound cuts out. It's so Yeah. So annoying.   But yes. So you will have in the future,   Linux, application or what's it called. Right? Yeah. And,  

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Linux also has open source,   casting tools and and podcasting tools, which are 100%   free.   So there's probably even also   that   as an option to use.   And And, open source software is always under development. For example,   you know Guitar Pro where you can write Guitar tabs   on your PC and you can play them?   You know Well, I heard about it but You know what Guitar guitar tabs are, right? They are like six lines for all the strings with numbers on them.   And the numbers will say where you gotta put your finger to play a chord or what   note.  

Right.   And Guitar Pro is really expensive program, but under Linux you got,   Turks Guitar,   which is basically the ex exact same program.   It does the exact same thing, but it's 100%   free.   And there's always an open source option for   paid software options.   Options. So you gotta you gotta not think how am I gonna run this piece of software that doesn't support Linux. No. You're gonna look, what does Linux have to offer   themselves   as an alternative?   So Right. Yeah. When it comes to, Windows   computers, laptops and computers,   it's either move to Windows 11 and let AI control everything you are   or keep Windows 10 for one year with paying with your privacy,   or moving to Linux. Those are basically the three options you have right now.  

And the best option in my opinion is Linux   by far. Because it's it's safer, it's it isn't connected to the three eyes   watching you,   you know, the pyramid watching you.  

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So can we put some pressure on, let's say, Windows by not buying new stupid bullshit   from them so they have basically produced a lot of stuff that nobody's gonna buy,   and they will go you know, they have to think about stuff. It's the same with   if it's gonna be a big, petrol,   company like Shell or ESO, whatever you're gonna call it. If you're not going to be there for the couple of weeks with a lot of people,   they're going bankrupt. So Exactly.   They they so so   what I really like, Joss, about this turn here in the podcast is that eventually, if we make the right choice instead of Windows,   we take Linux.  

Instead of being in a CBDC   arranged   community,   we will go out to create our own communities with with, say, let's with,   trades or maybe with   Bitcoins   because that's decentralized.  

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That's also the option. Or just like  

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yes. I mean I mean, there I think there are options, and they are unfolding right now in front of us. But we have to make the choice.   And the question is, well, will the system allow us to have that choice?   Or would they say just like, oh, kill all the people that are the the rebels from the the new world?  

[01:23:03] Unknown:

Well, the system cannot block Linux   because   do you wanna know an even more fun fact?   When I was doing the the cloud   education Do you wanna know a Do you wanna know another fun Shut it down. Do you wanna know a really funny   thing about my,   when I was doing the Microsoft education,   a really fun fact about Linux, they cannot stop it it because guess what operating system Microsoft   runs on?   They use Linux   because they know Windows sucks.   So every   seriously,   the   AI and the cloud and all their servers are running on Linux.   So they can't stop you from using Linux because they are using Linux themselves.  

So we went   so when you say That's crazy. You were saying, if we boycott   Microsoft in the example,   we boycott Microsoft and we move to   Linux. The only thing Microsoft   then has left to do   is say,   well, we're gonna have Microsoft Linux   instead of Microsoft Windows.   Because that moment, their whole   scam will fall down.   And of course, Microsoft   Linux will have AI   and   spyware and   and CIA, FBI, NSA, whatever bullshit.   But Good. It will push them towards change. So that's a good thing. Another thing I have read is that,   they want,   car companies   to stop   creating   petrol run cars by 02/1935.  

However,   a lot of car companies, especially in Germany, are doing really bad right now with their electric vehicles because people are waking up and they they don't want an electric vehicle because with the sun flare the electric vehicle stops working.   You know?   So   people are like I want a petrol car. So right now at this very moment, and I read this in the mainstream media,   you know big companies like BMW,   Mercedes,   Volkswagen,   they all want to go back to creating   Petrol ONE cars because they figured out that   the solution of the electric vehicle   isn't sustainable   because they cannot get enough,   resources for the,   the microchips and whatever. And they are saying, we are running bankrupt because of the fucking vehicle,   electrical vehicle. So that's also happening.  

Even the big car companies   are now   boycotting   their own bullshit.   And that's what's going on. So let that sink in. Let that sink in. Yeah.   That they wanna go back. I'm going to to  

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I'm going to to to try this on on   maybe I should do can you say something else, please? Yes. Testing one two three.   I still have it. I still hear you somewhere   in my voice,   but and now?  

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Testing one, two, three. Testing. Can you hear me?  

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Testing? I don't know what's happening, but I think it's better. I think it's better. So coming back to your point, and sorry also for listeners to interrupt all the time because of the stupid sound stuff. I hate that.   When it comes to cars,   it's really fascinating that on   right now, the biggest demand that we have is for electricity.   So   the grid has been over, producing   because of, you know, all the stupid bullshit they put out there,   what is my opinion with the solar panels and with the windmills and all that stupid stuff. Smart cities, electric   vehicles. Yes. They have to get that shit. But here comes the kicker.  

In the winter and in the summer,   the grid will be having problems to provide all the energy that we need. So if you're living in Arizona and it's   Fahrenheit,   and you're almost melting your ass off, they say to you,   shut down your air conditioning   so you can load your Tesla.   Like,   really?   Are you really that retarded?   So the thing is,   fossil energy,   diesel,   gasoline   is unlimited,   infinity.   When it comes to   nowadays   problems, when it comes to the industry, when it comes to the data, when it comes to the biggest source that we really   want right now is energy.  

And just like you said, if we go in now to winter,   so how many Tesla cars will not start when there's gonna be severe weather?   Or what do you think about,   all the cars that are having an accident because   there will be more electric cars?   Not even mentioning that we're human bodies   that have electrical   electricity running around   us, magnetic fields like solar flares or whatever flares   that can take out   your car, but not only your car, but also you. But if you are in an accident,   there's no way that a fire truck comes up and tries   to, you know,   blush it or is it called blush it,   with water.  

No. Bless it.   Take the fire out with water. Because you can't put electric devices out with water, you you're gonna make more problems.  

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Exactly.   So  

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and not to mention what you have to do to get a battery into existence.   Like, you gotta go to Congo and you have to have a lot of little guys and girls probably between year of five and seven or eight years old,   to get the cobalt   and then you have a very   pollutive way to get the fucking battery into your   so called greenhouse,   green car, whatever.   This is crazy stuff, man. It's so crazy. Yeah. And  

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after ten years, the battery   doesn't   work proper anymore, so we got a battery waste because you cannot recycle batteries.   And,   yeah, like you said, a battery   fire is heat, but   a battery fire is also a chemical fire.   You can survive a car crash when it's a petrol fire. You can survive that. But the the moment you get in a car crash with a battery fire,   your lungs will instantly burn.   You will die   instantly.   And you will keep burning and burning and burning until there's nothing left to burn. That's basically a battery fire.   So all those,   Tesla fucking hippies,   if they get in a car crash, I hope they burn.  

No, no, just kidding, just kidding.  

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I I love I love Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I I love all those hippies. I was just making joke. Yeah. But but the the true thing is too, especially with the electric cars, and I I'm I'm driving,   for work a lot of cars.   The thing is   so normally you would say, okay. I'm a person. I I have my driver license.   I wanna drive my car. Let me get to push a button to help me   guide or lane assist or cruise control, whatever.   No. Nowadays, you get in the car, you have to push the buttons out   to opt out on that thing. So you drive your car and all of a sudden it, you know, it pushes you to the left or to the right because it thinks there's a road,   with the with the sign.  

It says you can go 50,   kilometers   an hour here, but you can go 80 because you are the human. But it's been controlled.   Coming back to the, electric cars,   it's been controlled.   Even there are people claiming now that Tesla   is when they, you know, did some stupid things, whatever,   that that car shuts down or can drive you through somewhere   where you do not want to go to, like, say, a police,   office.   What do you think about Google Maps that's tracking all the things that you do if you don't turn it off on your device   that knows exactly   where you were. So you're gonna be having,   in the worst case scenario,   a speed ticket   because they tracked you down on a satellite, satellite, whatever the fuck they call it, because they're saying like, oh, you you're here across the line.  

So we we we didn't see it, but the AI picked it up   or the software   saw it. So here's your fine.   But,   if we're not gonna allow this kind of bullshit   to enter our lives, if we don't give them   the   the opportunity   or the, the tools to work with it,   they all will go falling down. If it's gonna be a system, if it's gonna be a computer tech guy and if it's gonna be,   no matter who,   if you don't give them the   tools or the,   and art.  

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Yeah. What's it called? Yeah. Your focus and your attention.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.   Gonna   gonna lock you up. Yeah. Well, if they're standing thousand people or 10,000 people outside that do the same crime, well, whatever crime, because the crime is is very, you know, who's who's pushing the crime against who?   Right? Yeah.   And then 10,000 people waiting,   maybe they have FEMA camps to put some people in, but   what do you think that 10,000 people are gonna do that that that are in camps?   Well  

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yeah.   So So yeah.   You talked about Google   and that made me think, let's talk about the devices we already covered, the the the PCs and the laptops.   Those can be solved with Linux.   When you look at the Apple devices, they are   hardware and software fully closed.   You can put,   I think, Linux on other Mac computers, but newer,   Mac computers.   It's such a closed   system. Just get rid of your Mac computer and and buy,   you know, a Windows PC and install Linux to that.   However,   our mobile phones,   if you got an Apple, you're fucked. But if you got a Google   device,   there are certain,   firmware   they call it. It's basically the software that's running your phone. And on here is Android,   connected to Google all the time.  

However, you can put an,   open source,   Android version on your phone   that is de Googled. So it doesn't have anything Google anymore except   Android itself.   So it won't have the Chrome browser anymore. It won't have Google Maps anymore. It won't have   the GPS and whatever anymore.   So you will have a computer,   a mobile phone without Google. So that's a possibility.   Another thing is Fairphone. Have you ever heard about their brand? It's a Dutch brand.   No.   Well, Fairphone is a modular phone, which means you can,   upgrade it modually.   So you can,   let's say the battery is not good anymore, you can remove the battery, put in a new battery. With this phone we got, we cannot put in new battery, we cannot even open this phone.  

So when you got a Fairphone,   which is a Dutch company, you can have a modular phone, so you can choose which   hardware you're gonna build in. You can have a kill switch where you   click it and all the GPS   and five g's and everything will switch off in an instance. It will they call it a kill switch,   and stuff like that.   But also, you can choose between   Android Google   or an Android without Google.   So that way, you will have a telephone   without the Google bullshit.  

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So is it a little bit like, I think that Adam Curry and Adam Curry, I'm shouting out to you again. I want you on a podcast.   He   had I think it's   the the phone.   And he had,   stripped it down. So there's basically nothing on it. It can't track you, whatever. It has a name. I'm I'm I'm   searching for the name.  

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Yeah. I I know the operating system. I   cannot   you have Synagon, but you also have other,   operating systems. Indeed, which has all the spyware removed and which gives you gill switch and and all the  

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Yes. Stuff. Yes.   So and I also figured out the problem, Juss, because you are exactly right. I put it down the Bluetooth,   although it's very,   complicated for me to well, I I listen to you now via my normal hearing aid, but not with the Bluetooth in my ears.   And it seems that I now fixed the problem, and I'm sorry   that I interrupted you all the time because of the stupid   the because of the stupid thing. So so it seems to work now only I have to,   mute myself when you're talking because the mic will pick that up. So so that could be thing. But okay.   Yes. Very interesting to to to think about,   how we're gonna integrate these these things into our lives and to have, like,   Yeah. These kind of phones with no   you know, I want to use my phone for the for the benefits   of using it, but don't if you normally use a phone or laptop, there's so many bullshit on it that I don't want. Yeah. We we were getting to your when we when we installed Windows 10, there were so many apps like, no.  

No. Let me just put, you know, I wanna have   50 or 60 apps. This one, that one, that one, and I wanna have options to opt out.   Yeah. And if I want them, I will opt in, but not giving me all that bullshit.   If you look at mail,   thirty years ago, there was once in a time, there came a mailman   coming by your your your box and they had a letter or maybe two just like, wow.   If you open up your mail, email nowadays,   look at how many bullshit there's in. You can't print it on paper.   So much  

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bullshit. Exactly.   So   yeah.   You know, going back at at where we started, digital ID.   We don't have the implant chip yet.   So we don't have to worry about that yet.   But,   yeah, we we went from digital ID   to,   you know, building a system besides the system. While destroying the one system, build the other system.   And when it comes to Digital ID, I think about the devices. So, my advice,   yet again,   on a computer, get Linux. Simple as that. And,   on Linux, you have the application called Bottles. And Bottles will have you   being able to run every Windows application   on Linux.  

If you want to run,   you know, paid applications and stuff like that.   When it comes to the phone, get   a de googled phone   or get an operating system that you can can put on it so you don't have to deal with the Google bullshit and you got the basic Android functionality.   Other things you have,   in the near future,   the European Parliament,   they want   to,   basically   be able to look into your WhatsApp, able to look into your Telegram, basically look into every chat application.   Well, here's a fun thing, use IRC.   IRC is an old,   chatting system that you can use on Linux,   Windows, whatever,   that we used back in the days to chat with each other.  

IRC, they can if they are in your group, they can,   monitor it. But if you you don't let the agencies into your group,   they cannot monitor the group because it's, you know, it's from IP to IP. The it it's an older protocol.   So,   yeah, stop using WhatsApp and use IRC instead. You can use it on your phone, you can use it on your computer and whatever.  

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Like signal?  

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Even older. Way older. It's it's it's only chat. You cannot even put pictures. It's just   plain text.   But it's a way of communicating   without them being able to see what you're communicating.   So use   because signal will also be,   you know, if signal wants to operate in the European Union, they have to   give the backdoor to the European Union when they vote for that law that they can look into our chats   and monitor everybody.  

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Yes. But but but still I think that,   the big question is, if if I'm living   my nomad life,   do I really   need all this bullshit?   Well What I'm trying to say is, like, oh, yes. I can I can play a game   on my computer? I don't have to be in connected to the Internet eventually.   Yes. I wanna scroll my my fucking Pornhub or whatever because I, you know, that's an addiction that I got now   or I wanna see the news or whatever people or YouTube or Rumble or whatever or listen to podcasts from disorganized productions, you know. There's so many things, but in the end,   do you really need it?  

I think that's a lot of bullshit that they want you to get   because then, first of all, they control you easier   and they can get more money out of you. But if you say, no, I don't need it.  

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Yeah. How long did you live without the Internet, without,   the computer and everything? I was probably forty years.   Everything everything was fine. Right? Thirty. Oh, perfect. Perfect. So, yeah, we don't need it. But if we need it, use safe protocols. That's what I'm saying.   And,   talking about devices and and Linux and whatnot,   there is a big chapter in my book about,   IT and about technology. So people can read that up and get   it even have links to Linux Mint and stuff like that. So people can just,   you know, use my book if they wanna know more. It's,  

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you know, it's how Please promote your book. While while I'm going very quickly to the toilet, please promote your book. Now is the time you shine. Yes. Yes.  

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As mentioned in,   previous podcast with,   Disorganized Productions,   I   was writing a book when I just   started,   appearing in podcast and the book is has already been finished,   for quite some time. And,   people can just download it from my website.   Rob will   put it in the notes of this,   podcast, I am sure.   And, yeah, you can can watch   all the podcasts that I appeared on. You can   download my book for free. You don't have to sign up or anything. It's just go to the website, click the download link and it will instantly download. It's a PDF   file   and the book contains a lot about every   subject I discuss on podcast from the occult to,   World Economic Forum to   technology,   to   being self sufficient, to spirituality,   whatever.  

It's it's all   a big guide in one book basically. It's it's a guide. It's not not   a story or   a novel. It's it's a guide for, the times we are   going in. Yes.  

[01:45:26] Unknown:

It's definitely a very fascinating book that you wrote,   with a lot of tips and tricks   for a better,   community.   And,   I know that on your website,   I will put the link down below. And the thing is on my website too. So this organizedproduction.com.   There's also a link to the website from Yoast.   Please be aware that there is so much information, but also the podcasts   where,   where he was, what he was on.   So with Mad Max, with,   our friend   from the Greyhorn Pagan podcast, Stein.   Yeah. You were doing a lot of stuff lately. Right?  

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Yeah.  

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So,   do we still have a train of thoughts that we wanna mention right now, or should we,   close off a little bit?   I think I think we've got Because we need to control ourselves, especially ourselves, I think. When it comes to the controller of other people,   we we talked about it a lot.   Yes, there are things happening. Yes, there are things faster happening than we eventually,   thought.   But then again, we only give them the power if we can't control ourselves.   So do we really need this or do we really need that? And if you don't need it,   they can't make any money out of it and can't control you. My basically my thoughts. Yeah. What do you think? The only thing I I could add because we already,  

[01:47:06] Unknown:

discussed a lot of things from   digital ID to,   tweaking your devices into having safer operating systems and stuff like that. I think the only thing we gotta learn to control is consumerism.   People are so used to consume stuff   that they don't need because they think,   a lot of people deep down inside, they feel miserable because they got a nine to five job,   forty hours a week.   They get at home tired, really tired, and they think, if I buy new clothes, if I if I buy a new car, I will be happy. And then they got the car and they are happy for, like, one day and then they get used to the car and they're, like, it's still the same transport vehicle to my job, to my nine to five.   It isn't making me any happier than my old car besides   smelling you and stuff like that. So,   yeah, think about consumerism   and even better,   like the car dealers were talking about. We don't wanna create the electric vehicle   anymore because it gets us too much trouble.  

Basically, they are boycotting the electric vehicle   and we can also boycott. If we look at people behind the system, we look at BlackRock Vanguard   and when you look at to those   kind   of economic systems,   you can look at the big companies that controllers like Microsoft.   Move away from Microsoft. Go to Linux. It's free.   You don't have a reason to not go there. It's free. It's open source. It's more safe than Windows.   Even Microsoft is using it on their own servers. So that's   consuming a product   by not paying for a product.   And if you like the products, you can even say, hey, I gonna give a donation to the developers,   the people behind this great product.  

And instead of going to a supermarket, go to a local farm, give your money to death.   And go to a family owned business instead of   a big Walmart or whatever   and and   support your community and don't support the big   1%.   The the the really   healthy, wealthy, influential,   and controlling people because,   you know, we gotta punish them for what they are doing for to us. We   and right now, everybody   is saying, well, the system, they are screwing us, but we are still buying Coca Cola. Well, the system is doing that, but we are still buying the, Microsoft. Well, the system is doing that, but we are still using Google.   Stop using it.  



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You're absolutely right. I I think that's the power. Right? Because we're allowing it by buying stupid stuff,   just like you said, and and and that's what will give them power. But there's no company that will,   be fruitful   if,   if it makes a product that nobody's gonna buy.   So it's it's especially just like you said with the community, but also education to the people.   And,   it's very hard nowadays because people have so many different mindsets.   They're so distracted from what's happening right now,   and they don't find the time or the energy to   to educate themselves what's happening.  

And, of course, we can scream from the top of our lungs what's happening.   The thing is when you do that, nobody's gonna listen.   Eventually, people have to come to you and say, like, hey, wait a minute. You you seem to be an authority on that field.   What do you think? Because I see all of it all of it all of   it all of a sudden   everything changing as you mentioned in your book or in your podcast or the things that you practice, that you preach,   you know, stuff like that.   But but but I think that,  

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that's another important thing. Practice what you preach. Don't you say do this and that   and still buy Coca Cola yourself.   You know, just  

[01:51:16] Unknown:

Yeah. That that but but it's so crazy and even now. I'm I mean, I'm drinking a beer. Why not? You know? It's a it's a birthday from that's my excuse right now. It's a birthday because Alex is here from Romania.   He's very quiet and,   because he knows I'm doing a podcast, so thank you for that, Alex. But no. It's it's we have so many excuses.   If we are going to say we are against the system that's, holding us up, let's go to protest.   You can you can think of 10,000   people   that have probably 10   excuses   not to show up after that they say that they wanna show up against the system. Like, well, yes, let's do it tomorrow. Oh, yes, let's do it tomorrow. You get 10,000 people. And like I said earlier There will be 100 coming to that protest because the rest is all excuses. And I think,   that that there comes the control back in mind.  

We have to control and discipline ourselves, and the podcast from yesterday with Odin,   listen to that one when it's online. It's also about that. You have to take the power back.   He has the same things that, Yos is also gonna cover about.   You have to   fight,   fight. Not because you want to, but maybe because you have to.   And it's a good thing maybe to defend yourself. Not saying like I did a lot of martial arts.   Not saying like, oh, I can kick somebody's ass. I could,   but maybe there's a chance to get out of the situation that could   be very   harmful for me   when I got into that situation   because we never know what, what's next. Right? Especially right now.  

Although, I think that we covered a lot of things yours today  

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about the control and all that stuff. Yeah. And what So what I quickly wanted to add to what you were saying is,   you talked about going to protest. And I was saying earlier,   thanks to a documentary I was watching, it was a CIA agent   telling it. He said,   the world only needs 5% an ex CIA,   agent. And he said, we only need 5% of the people to change the world into something better. 5%.   And you were talking about protests, but even stronger than a protest is a boycott.   If you boycott the system,   if you lay down your work, you say, I'm not gonna work anymore   with this tax system and I'm just gonna   sit this one out and I gonna go to protests and I'm not gonna buy,   consume products that I don't stand behind anymore and stuff like that.  

If 5%   does that, the system will fall. We only need 5%.   And that comes from the documentary,   Out of Shadows   Into the Light. And it's,   a documentary   made by,   a really big stunt actor within Hollywood. And he discovered that there were satanic things behind Hollywood and   a friend of him   contacted,   he put a comment on a podcast I had with Max West and he said, what this your Sky is saying is real because   I worked with this and that, Hollywood stuntman   who even worked on Marvel movies, on big movies, big big projects. And he said, that guy was while I was working with him, he was also working on the documentary   telling about the stuff Joost is still speaking about. So I know Joost is 100%   right about what he's saying. So that was a comment and he was said he was like,   watch   the   movie   Out of Shadows into the into the light. Those are two different,   documentaries,   and I I will give you the link from that documentary,   Yes. Please do. Yeah. After the podcast. But because   it will say everything that I'm saying, both those.  

And and you can watch one documentary for free and the other one, you have to pay, like, $5 to see it. But it's, like, two hours full documentary.   You will have ex CIA,   ex NSA,   a lot of really big names, big people, big Hollywood people talking about what's happening right now. The exact same thing I am saying. So   do not take it from me, take it from   really big names   from the CIA and FBI   and all those.   Because those people are way bigger than me,   and they reached out to me telling about the documentary they made. So, yeah, let that sink in as well.  

[01:56:14] Unknown:

Yeah. Always do your own research,   especially when it comes to these things.   I think with that, we covered a lot about   what you could do. It's not saying that, you have to do that because that's the way out. That there is, you know, we're still   even if I look at my own nomadic life, I'm still   stuck in a system somewhere or somehow.   Even if I would have financial freedom, I would still be stuck in a system somehow. But it's all   freedom, I would still be stuck in the system somehow.   But it's all about the mindset, how much you're gonna   put into your head,   how much information you're gonna get through   that,   has an effect on your life.  

And,   when you cut out the   the bullshit of the media   and,   TV and all that stuff, that's that's that's   one of the biggest steps that you can take.   And then of course, yeah, just find your community.   And I think that's a that's a very nice one to,   to end this podcast.   Joos, thank you for hopping on. I I'm I'm sure we're gonna have another podcast about another topic or several topics that we're gonna talk about because it's always good to have you here.   Yeah. So,   if you wanna know more about this organized productions, fellow human that's listening right now to this podcast,   still figuring out the whole stupid stuff when it comes to the audio, but that's gonna be alright with, you know, trial and error. But if you wanna know more about me or all the links that I have, with all the things that I do, please take a look at LinktreeDisorganizedProductions   or disorganizedproductions.com   and there's a new website coming up or is already up.  

You can find the links also that's holisticcarnomad.com   and it's a new site. And I put everything in the short description when it comes to Joost's this,   website.   Feritas, what what was the name over again?  

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Ignis Feritares,   fire of truth.  

[01:58:21] Unknown:

Fire of truth.  

[01:58:24] Unknown:

Exactly. Because I wanna burn out all the lies and let the truth be exposed.  

[01:58:30] Unknown:

I think a lot of people listening to this organized productions want that. And,   yeah, we're gonna keep in touch, Joyce, because we, we we also have some private things that we,   we have to do. Yeah. And for every thing that everyone who is listening to this podcast, thank you for, for listening to,   this one hundred twenty third   episode, Ain't to Edriche, an Ain't to Edriche quote. Yeah. One, two, three,   with Yoast and,   I wish you brilliant grand rising beautiful day or beautiful evening no matter where you are on this beautiful planet.   Thank you.  



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