Disorganized Productions "Chaos creates Harmony"

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In this episode of the Disorganized Productions podcast, I finally reconnect with returning guest Stijn Fawkes of the Greyhorn Pagans Podcast after recent tech hiccups and network chaos. We dive into the realities of indie content creation—gear, editing, music sourcing, thumbnails, YouTube monetization hurdles, and the grind behind podcasts and video. From drones and DIY filmmaking to workflows, sound design, and the hidden labour around scheduling and distribution, we share actionable insights on creating more with less and keeping momentum without burning out.

Our conversation then journeys into ancestral roots, Germanic and Frisian history in the Netherlands, Rome’s limits at the Rhine, pagan lifeways, solstices and holy days, runes and symbolism, and how ancient cycles map to modern rhythms. We explore the “as above, so below” lens, the 3-6-9 rest-and-work cadence, living with nature’s tempo, and the present “lifting of the veil.” We also touch on Dutch geography, water management, floods, and why fire and water are equal-opposite forces. To close, Stein shares where to find his work, including weekly shows, Patreon content, and a forthcoming conversation with a Freemason—while we commit to cross-posting this episode for a true creator double-feature.

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Skip me branch like squirrel, baby.  

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What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect for the law.  

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Welcome fellow human to the disorganized productionist podcast,   the show that fuels your spirit,   ignites your potential,   and helps you become the best version of yourself.   I'm your host, Rob,   and each episode   will embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you. Tap into your limitless   potential   and conquer life's challenges.  

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Days of flavoring were  

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Hey there, fellow human. Welcome to another episode of PSO Organized Productions, and,   boy, am I disorganized?   I mean, last episode, I did a solo episode, and I explained myself   that my guest didn't show up.   But   I was talking to my guest the other day.   It seemed that he was trying to join, but I couldn't see anything in in Zoom   because I had some network problems.   And,   with that said, I'm just gonna   admit   my new guest in a podcast. He will be there in a second, then we have gonna have a brilliant conversation.   Oh, wow. There he is already.  

I was just,   okay. You're connecting with the audio. That seems to be all perfectly fine.   I can't hear you yet, but   Yeah. We're dealing with some,   well, I've been dealing with some problems,   like I said, in the in the little intro. I was just starting with the intro.   Yeah. You're still connecting with the audio. I see that.   So but that's gonna yes. There you are. Yeah. No. I just I gotta  

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try and   because I'm on my dad's computer. You know?  

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Oh, yeah. You're looking brilliant. Me, I'm just on the phone. So I was if you just if you just wait for a little second, I just wanted to tell my audience about the last thing that I screwed up with these organized productions.   And then we're gonna have a brilliant,   conversation, Stein.   So,   it seems that I had so much network problems that even the video   that normally is gonna be perfect and the audio   from the files that I get from Zoom   normally are perfect.   So I edit them and all that stuff.   But when I did that with the last podcast, it seemed that the audio in the beginning was,   it was a mess.  

And   the video was just a few pixels.   So I really had some problems. And it turned out that KPN,   which is the provider here in The Netherlands,   has some updates on their network.   So, hopefully, they are done with that kind of shit.   Because,   finally, we're gonna do some new stuff right here on this organized productions. I wanna shout out   to,   Sam that's gonna provide me provided me with a brand new website,   holisticcarnomad.com.   Of course, you can see all my links at disorganizedproductions.com.   You can have your grounding mats, the book of wisdom, and all the nutrition   that you need to have a better life to be the best version of yourself   right there. I'm gonna post them, of course, in the show description.  

And please welcome with me fellow humans,   Stein   Hawkes   from the Greyhorn pod the Greyhorn   Pagan podcast.  

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Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Thank you for, for having me. I I just made it. Thankfully, my dad has a, has a really   good computer and a a decent webcam and and mic, because,   man, I I got I got so many things   going on at the moment. I I keep forgetting shit. Like, I I have   work. I got my own show that people are scheduling on that I'm like, who are you?   I I never spoke to you, but okay. Cheers for scheduling.   The interviews,   private life.   It's   everything at once. But we're here, and, yeah, thanks for, thanks for having me, man. Thanks for, for letting me   come on again. It's,  

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Chaos Chris Harmony, as you know.   The fellow listeners, they know that my show is called that, chaos, craze harmony.   But nevertheless,   finally, we have the pagan   and the handsome devil.   Guess who is who?   Yes, sir. Yes, sir.   Stein, good to see you, man. We met each other in, in Amsterdam, actually.   Yeah. It was, a a little while ago, which was really cool to see each other in person. Right?  

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Yeah. It was. It was, it was a lot of fun. We had the,   the hands of Neville, the pagan. We had the vampire.   We had the,   the,   well, nutritionist,   and his rocket scientist father.  

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Wow. Yes. Shout out to, Brandon.   It was a pretty cool time that we had right there. So Brandon. What I'm trying to or what I wanna do, Stein, is,   when we're done when I'm done with this episode, I'm gonna send it to you so you can post it also on your channel. So we have a double wobble today. I think that's the bad thing because   we as content creators, and a lot of people do not know that.   It's not only in the scheduling and talking to   people on a podcast. It's it's of course, it comes with a lot of other stuff to do.   I saw that you did a,   a podcast with Stitt with Derek Stitt. Shout out to the Stitt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did. And I saw that, on on Spotify, and he seems to have the video of you two guys   also on Spotify. So if you look at the podcast, you can all also check the video. So I wanna figure out how that's working. Yeah. That's And I noticed  

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It's a thing that Spotify does since a   a while. Like, you can watch video on   Spotify. I'm I'm not sure who actually does that, but it's an option. Yeah.   Right.  

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I think so and the other thing is so it's not only two hours of talking or whatever time.   It's also editing the stuff. I I never added things out, but I wanna make it   more professional because I don't have the gear here in my car   Yeah. Because I'm a car nomad to set up everything perfectly so it sounds like really good crispy shit.   And,   I noticed you're doing a lot of shows. Like, every Saturday, you do is you do a show with Xerath.   And then   we talked about a little bit before, and please tell tell me about it.   You were asked for a TV show?  



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Yeah. Yeah. That was a,   a recommendation   from Yost,   actually. He he always   comes with that kind of stuff. That was,   Yeah. It was what it was for a, a new program,   from,   BNN Vara,   which is,   for   those not familiar with Dutch TV, it's kinda the, yeah,   what is it, youth,   in our late teens, early twenties kinda,   TV? Us. Like   Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.   Mentally, at least. Mentally. Yeah.   No. But it's,   pearls for the, for the swine with a very   well known   non binary   rock,   person,   artist.   Like, it it it was an existing program, but,   they had to do an overhaul   because at first, it was with,   like, just the   every, like, famous Dutch person that you've seen on TV already. You know? But then in a more   intimate setting on,   on their farm and all of that, which   yeah. K. Cool.  

It was a, but then   the audience got really pissed off that   the,   the cooking that they did on the show   wasn't actually   cooking, but there was catering.   So they yeah.   No way. They're lying to you. They're lying to you on TV.   What?   No. The television?   The television?   Tell a lie vision?   Yeah. That's a oh, shocker.   So, you know, like, their their entire media team was like,   oh, shit. Like, we we we need to overhaul this. We need to do something else because   oh, gosh. Like, we have a contract. There's money to be made. A lot of money spent already.   So this they decided   to, like, put out a call on,   on Instagram that that was the original post that, Yoast shared with me.  



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Like, hey. Do you have a cool story to tell? Do you, like, have this or have done that? Or you,   know, like,  

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I don't know. Just wanna do a backflip, barenaked, and have a beer with me.   Because why not?  

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I like the beer. The other thing, I don't know if it's suitable for this. But  

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I'm not that athletic. So   You know, like, send send us an email at like this and this address,   and   I send out an email with, you know, of course, the thing that I do. Like, I,   the part, like, about my ancestral faith, about about the,   about the tribe, about my   podcast, and, like, that I try to   educate people about,   our ancestral faith, about the gods, about all the,   more, you know, occult esoteric mystic   things that come with it.   And,  

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I've gotten   really far.   Actually, I've had,  

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like,   two   I can't say, like, at least two phone calls with   one of the,   one of the producers   from the from the,   like, from the the,   production   company, the production house that   produces the show for Vienna Vada.   You know, like, they really like the story, and they wanted me to, like, draft up something because my idea was to,   like,   do a,   ancestral ritual   on live TV,   like, to also, like, show, like, what we are what we do, what we're about, and all of that.   And   it's so funny. The actual reason or what the the reason that I was, was told   why   they,   why I wasn't chosen   is because they felt it was too big   for,   like, just that show. Like, you know, like, I was planning, like, an old ancestral   thing, and then, you know, like, the that was   I mean, I was I was basically planning for I mean, you could almost say, like, a the an entire documentary while it was just supposed to be, like,   a forty five hour,   you know, episodes,   really.  

Right. Right.   So yeah. But, like, I I still,   you know,   have the, the telephone number of, you know, the producer,   and I I already got some,   or at least a tip from,   Martin from tribe of the fox. Like, hey. There's always, like, this other producer who is kind of a,   rogue   kind of producer. Like, he,   you know, like, go goes against the mainstream, goes against the grain and all of that and, like, really takes on the, the more alternative side of things.   Right. So I still,   like, have multiple options that I I can explore.   But, like, I I've gotten really flows like, closer than I ever   imagined I would,   I would come.  

Because Yost also sent in his story about, you know, the whole vampire cult thing, and I was like, well, I mean, they're gonna choose, like, between   freaking   somebody who used to be, like, in a vampire cult and a pagan. I was like,   I mean, I choose the vampire cult,   but they run for the pagan.   Right.  

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But it's really interesting because   nowadays,   we can create that own stuff.   I mean, if you really wanna push it I mean, I purchased myself a camera not long ago, like a p   900 from Nikon.   I can I can make shot of the moon that are incredible   and also videos, but,   you know, the podcasting stuff is what I like, but I like also to make some   really valuable content,   make pictures, some videos, and stuff like that? But if we're gonna take it to the next level   and to make a documentary or our own, you know how to edit the stuff. We have the capability,   the tools, the software nowadays   that is gonna help us to do that. I mean, go for it, man, because I think that the things that we wanna talk about in a podcast or the things   that are lying within our interest   should be brought out in a world so more people can dig into that kind of stuff.  



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Yeah. No. Absolutely. I mean, it's no. It's cool doing this   independently   and, like, growing your audience   organically through podcasting. I mean, that's it's how I got my, my YouTube channel to over one k.   Wow.   I'm not able to monetize it, though, because YouTube's like, uh-uh. Yeah. I don't hear hear some No. He needs 5,000 for it to monetize on No. No. No. No.   You need,   thousand subscribers   and   four   four thousand   watch hours. Like, I got the watch hours before I got the subscribers.   Wow. Long long lived podcasting, like, fucking two and a half, three and a half hour shows sometimes.   It's insane.  

But,   what it what was it? My,   thumbnails are misleading.   Oh, you got the Because of the Because of reasons?   Warnings.   Yeah. No. Not not even warnings. Like, just my thumbnails are misleading   and,   like, only to   drive clicks.   And it's like, well,   yeah. It's it's it's supposed to be. Bills are for.   Right?   And a,   a lack of original content while I've been creating more original content than ever before.  

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Wow. Wow.   Yeah. So I had two   community strike things going on   with YouTube in the beginning before I had, like, 40 episodes on. So I said, like, I'm not gonna post anything   because otherwise, they're gonna take it down. It's like forty hours of,   you know, blood, sweat, and tears.   Mhmm. But I really do hope, sir, that we both   now make a chance to get this drone going with the the the the thing that you sent me. Yeah. Yeah. I shared that with you. Swear to god. I I if I'm gonna if I'm gonna win that drone,   I'll definitely come to, to where I know where you are. We're not gonna mention any locations because you never know what what kind of stuff is gonna happen when they know the location.  

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, probably that's that's the reason why I'm a nomad. Right?   So is is this thing hanging oh, no. It's this is not hanging in my face. Right? It's just a shadow. Right? Okay. This I think it just No. It's it's it's all good. Just gives it gives you a little bit of a sort of an edge. You know? Oh, a little bit of an edge. Oh, I need that sometimes. The and I need need to to to,   to dull the knife too because, otherwise, I'm too   too sharp. But,   that that's the thing. If you can get the gear or the sponsoring   from some products like that, like the DIY or, you know,   like a drone   Mhmm. You can definitely get some great footage out. And to talk a little bit more about the podcast, to do the,   to do more with less effort and to have some great shots that really,   you know, trigger people to look at stuff. Because if you do not like to see two people talking on whatever subject, which we do on the podcast,   then, you know, that that's a   yeah. That that's nothing. But if you share, like, oh, I'm editing right now. I'm now walking in the woods or whatever the fuck. Yeah. That's gonna be   a tremendous upload,   tremendous   gain   for content creators like us.  

That's why I'm pushing and try to push my content out and all the the links. It's not like,   you know   well, it it is like,   we don't make any   real money   with the things that we do, and it's fine.   Well,   a little a little bit. You know, it drips on on on   with the platforms I'm on and and some things working, some things don't.   But, of course, if if I could put out the things that I have in my head   into that that kind of thing, like podcasting,   music, and videos, only these three things, these multimedia things,   Dude, I I can work on it all day because I have so many ideas.  

But now just like you said in the beginning,   I don't find the time because   of me too. I'm working and and and today was ten and a half hours.   That seems a lot or not a lot. It it but it's it's, you know, it's work. So when you're back home, wherever that is,   I'm also a little bit done with the day, especially right now while I'm living   into nature. Sun   is almost set right now. Within   fifteen to twenty minutes, it's dark.   I feel that my metatoneum   is going,   you know, not on the phone.   And then I go to bed. So, like, 10:00, I'm most of the time done, not when I'm having a podcast and having the energy like you have and the energy we're creating together. So,   yeah, that's definitely gonna help us out   a lot.  

So if you're listening to this podcast, DIY,   we need that. We we need that. Now we're gonna make some content together if we're gonna win. Yeah. No. Exactly. And the like, that's I've been,  

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like, also,   making, like, a lot of,   standalone   videos, like, on on particular topics   just because I, like, I like creating those videos. I like coming up with, like, ideas and then,   getting a, getting a script together. I like the it's it's more of the   I mean, that's that's the thing with with podcasting.   I love just, you know, having these conversations   and with, making those videos.   I love   recording the audio, finding, you know, music with it, or if it's a,   more of a,   more of a storytelling audio, more of a storytelling podcast.   What I like to do is, like, also get, you know, like, a lot of the the,   the sounds   together. That's why what I've been   I I do that every once in a while. It's a lot of work, but it's a lot of fun.  

But that's what I like about podcasting. Like, all the other stuff, you know, having to make a thumbnail, it's the least   worst things.   But, you know, shorts   and upload it and promote   it and, you know, like, keep up with the Patreon.   Keep up with this. Keep up with that. Like, just everything around it is   so much work. But that's that's why I love,   platforms,   like Upbeats, like,   who are doing the,   the the contest for the drone.   A lot of the music that I have used in those time alone videos and a lot of the music that I,   use,   especially, like, for my intro and outro,   all of these special effects that I use in my videos,   I,   I got I got them from   that website.  

Okay. It's it's it's really it's really good websites for, for a lot of those things. And that's that's also part of part that I like. You know? It's like, oh, you know, in the script, like, it says   this. What can I find, like, you know, for,   like, an an overlay or a sound or a kind of music that,   like, fits with that? Like, the whole process of   getting it all together, I I absolutely love,   and also, like, just random sounds. Like, I'm doing a,   Patreon only series where I talk about   just things from The Netherlands.   I mean, I've been I've been taking my podcast,   I mean, quite literally all all over the world,   but, like,   not focusing on Netherlands as much. And I was like, well, I need more content for   Patreon. Like, I I   need a reason other than, like, the esoteric book club   and just early access to the podcasts for people to subscribe.  

So I was like, you know what? I I I'm just I'm gonna stay close to home.   And one of the   first ones I did was about a, a haunted house   in Dokum, in Frisia.   And, like, I it was so fun. Like, also getting all the, like, all the sounds,   you know, for that together and make them fit in the,   like, in in the right places. So when, you know, the the script says this, and I'm saying that because,   you know, the the script and the audio, they're two different things. There's a lot of, you know, cutting and and and shit going on. But, you know, like, having it line up and, you know, have the   the the volume just right. Like, I want to   like, that's that's a it's another thing.  

Yes. Podcasting and making videos so much work. Like, you don't want the audio to   go over your voice so that, like, people are hearing the audio,   but, like, okay. Well, what is actually being so, like, I can hear him   fakely in the background, but what is he actually saying?   So there's there's that. And, like, with a lot of songs that I'm using, like, it goes from, you know, like, kinda soft and it builds up. It builds up, and then there's just, like, this   this   spike, you know, when it goes, like, boom, all hands. And it's like,   okay. I got gotta cut that audio, like, at that point, like, have those level levels even. And it's just   so much work. It's a lot of fun, but it's so much work, and it's so much money as well that goes into it.  

Yeah. With, like, just the subscriptions, and I I kinda switched to,   to yearly subscriptions now,   just so it doesn't add up at the end of the month.  

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Oh oh, yeah. I I know. And and I know that,   like, a year ago   well, year ago, I was preparing myself to go to Peru,   but I still have my trailer   where I had all my setup in my little in my little,   office.   And I read light   street noises   from a car or from a train or whatever, like a beep or when you take a   a cup from a machine that it that that makes this sound, then I recorded it. And I could,   but well, I I still can, but but I don't have the equipment right now available. But you put it into,   my midi track,   and then   the the final thought was like, okay. I'm gonna purchase myself a DJ,   equipment so I can put these sounds into that DJ   equipment, and I'll make a sound song out of it. And with that song, I can add it over with my guitar. And the guitar nowadays with the amplifiers and all the the the pedals that you have, you can make so many sounds. It's like Oh, yeah. Immense. Incredible.  

So and I was   really digging it, and I was doing it live.   The funny thing is also that the videos that are posted on my Dazor Lash Productions YouTube,   which are meditation   that I made   and some music videos with my own, you know, my own   DJ equipment and and with my own pictures,   they are more been viewed than my podcasts.   Although I thought, like, people are, you know, you know, digging my podcast. I'm not complaining at all because I'm gonna get a lot of, horror audience every single time when I'm pushing out an episode.   So but but, yeah,   The the thing to be   always in that in for me, it's a zen moment if I'm doing my my positive thinking.  

My creativity   is going to be, like, level up.   It could be early in in in the morning   or very late at night, but it gives me so much energy to push the shit out.   And it's so cool to see,   when we were in Amsterdam that we had this click together, you know, also with the things that you're doing and the things that you you know, we're learning so much from each other,   and we're learning so much from the guests that we have.  

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Oh, mom. Yeah. Oh, wow.  

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You were talking just before your opt out. I was calling Stein like, hey. Are you ready, man? And he said like, oh, shit.   You rescheduled.   And then he said, like, oh, dude.   I'll I'll have my parents' house because I'm gonna bring them to skip hold tomorrow. So,   and you're talking about all the schedules and all the things that's going on. And just a message popped up   that, we'll have another podcast with Odin,   which is a guy from TikTok, which is a storyteller, and I love his name.   I love such a poor actor,   and because you know the name Odin. Right?  

Yeah. Hell to Odin, your father.   And talking about that,   I know you have some expertise in you that I wanna talk about in this podcast because  

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k.  

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We are basically here in in The Netherlands.   I'm in, most part of Limburg, which is a little bit older than the places where you are.   But,   the the   Germanic tribes   have a lot   a lot of history   here in The Netherlands.   Yeah. For example, one of the things that we see and which I wanna visit is the the Hunebeade,   the the Hoons,   the which were also scattered in in in,   in Germanica, so the the the old German,   tribes. But,   how how far does it does it go back when it comes to the heathen   and the, the people that lived here before the Romans took place?  

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Gosh. That's a good that's a good question.   Like, I think it really goes back,   I wanna say, like, at least   till   round   about the,   the last   ice age,   a bit after that. So let's say   probably, like, thirteen,   twelve, thirteen   thousand years,   when the   according to more mainstream science, at least there are different theories in that, of course. You know, there there's the the the more well known theory is the, the Indo Europeans or the Indo Aryans,   which has nothing to do with the funny mustache man.   It's a term way older.   You know, coming   from the,   from the the Indo European steppe,   they were they were steppe herders. They were,   you know,   nomads,   really. So, I mean, you're about as yeah. No. Like, actually,   and the the, like, Eastern European step,   nowadays,   would   be,   I think, like,   Kazakhstan, like, Kazakhstan, Georgia, like, Asia Asia minor, like, that   that neck of the woods,   which is still   Europe, believe it or not.  

Like, we don't associate it with Europe   because, like, for most of us, Europe, like, pretty much ends,   with,   or, like, you know, in Russia or, like, at the Russian border or, like, the Balkan.   Like, that's Europe. No. Like, it goes way further. You know? Kazakhstan,   Georgia,   going into   I wanna say, like, Armenia   is still   kind   of European.   Like, it's not European. It's not Asian. It's like the the border countries there.   But they,   like, made their way,   made their way west, you know, and they that's also where you got the   the the the the the court the courtware cultures, the the the, bigger cultures,   the, the hunter gatherers. You know, that's the those, like, are are early, early   ancestors.  

Right.   They   eventually,   settled   in,   like, in and around   the,   the Caucasus Mountains,   the Caucasus region. That's where you get the term Caucasian   from,   because that is literally where our, our ancestors   came from, or that's that's really the first place that they actually   settled,   to the best of my knowledge.   And, like, of course, later later on over the thousands of years, those became   the,   you know, became the the Germanic   tribes, the, like, the the Goths, the Gauls,   the the Celts.   Celts and Gauls are   basically   the same.   And here in The Netherlands, it was actually,   the   majority of our country was part of   Greater Germania. It was just the,   the coastal regions. So let's say from   I think, like, pretty much, like, from Frisia going down the coast, like, just the strip,   probably also taking,   perhaps, like, just the the region where I live at the moment. Like, I I do live quite coastal.  

Right. Like, all the way down to, like, at least Zealand.   That was   Frisia. Those were the,   the Frisians.   Nowadays, of course, it's, you know, it's just one province, but back in those days, thousands of years ago,   let's say this   was,   like, at least,   I wanna say, like, five thousand plus   years ago. Like, that was the entire   Western Coast Of The Netherlands where   the Friesians,   all the rest was part of,   Greater Germania.   And it was actually   later on. I don't know ex I don't know exact timelines. I'm very bad with timelines, actually.   But it was   the, Germanic tribes of the   the Goths,   the the actual Goths,   the the Visigoths   who conquered   Rome.  

So it it was   well, let's say that that was, like, between   I wanna say, like, two thousand plus years ago at the very least.   The Germanic tribes,   conquered   Rome. They,   I mean, Rome was already in a, a very weakened state, a very weakened   position. It wasn't the, you know, the the   the   power   the powerhouse   of the world, basically, that it was.   And they conquered Rome, actually. So,   and, like, you   the gulfs are,   they were one of the bigger tribes. You know? You they're they definitely left left their,   their,   you know, their,   traces here in Europe.  

Also, like, the the Gulfs of the, like, the subculture   that we know now   can be   related back to   the the physical goths. But, like, you have those incredibly   beautiful gothic cathedrals, for example. Like, the the gothic   building style, you know,   very, very grand.   Right. That was,   you know, from the goths, the the goth Gothic,   really, tribes   of Germania.   And, yeah, the Romans did have a, a very   large footholds in Europe as well.   Uh-huh.   But here in The Netherlands,   they   really didn't go past the,   the Rhine   River because,   I mean, back then, there was still, you know, a lot a much larger river and very   well, quite hard to, to cross as well. And just a natural boundary.  



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A natural Yeah. The the land.   The the land was much more as we know it here in in some regions that are still   like Nijmegen   or, here in in in in Limburg,   which is much more,   forests.   And I know that there's a story,   the first   real assassins   like the black seals or the navy seals, but then in back in the days   where the people from the Gothic tribes   that were basically in I think it was tutorial   vault,   vault that that's in, between that's   somewhere around there at Frisia.  

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The the Teutons, Teutonic tribes  

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are Yes. Yeah. They slaughtered,   like,   what the Germans did in the Ardennes, they did that with the Romans. And the Romans were basically on a on a  

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I I know I know what you're what you're talking about. They ambushed them.  

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Oh, yeah. A lot. So I did Yeah. And we had a very nice way of,   you know,   the the role is that one problem that normally they they they had some people that were, you know, like,   checking the fields. I don't get get that. So, like, spectator or or, you know   investigators.   Scouts. That's the word. Thanks.   Scouts. But, somehow in this deep forests,   they couldn't do that.   And, of course, when you live in a forest for a long time, you know exactly   what tree or what what where you are. And they ambushed them a lot and   which is very funny.  

What I what I just recognize about what you were saying about the Rhine,   If you see, like, Limburg, which we know now is a province,   there's still a big   part of it is in Belgium   and still is a big part of Germany.   And the funny thing is the dialect that I speak   is very related to all these,   regions because it's quite a big region. I mean, if you take that in consideration   to the rest of The Netherlands,   it's very small pieces of provinces. But the region of Limburg,   which was in the early days, like, the big,   part of Germanica,   that's huge.  

Huge.  

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Yeah. No. Absolutely. And the the, the Limber's dialects, like, it it can be compared to any other dialect in The Netherlands. Like, it is   like, yeah. Indeed. Like, it's part Flemish. It's part German. It's part   Dutch.   It's   part everything else.   And No. If we think  

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sorry.   Oh, man. I love this.   If you take,   as you said, back back in these days, right,   when we have these regions and the Romans came,   and they never crossed the Rhine,   were the the the pagans back in that time   also,   worshipper of the the Nordic   gods? Like like like,   were were they considered as a pagan because they were, you know, having a god for the land and having a god for the the fertility like Freya,   having a god of thunder,   all that stuff? Or or were they,   having a different approach of of, it's not religion. Right? It's a belief system. It's a it's a way of life.  

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Yeah. No.   I I I do believe that,   that was in the time when Rome was still pagan.   Although   the,   the the term pagan as we know it   wasn't a thing   back now. I mean Oh, it did. It just diet diet of salt.   Like, yeah. It it cut it indeed like, it comes from, from the rope from Latin,   paganas, paganas,   you know, which means,   like, lands dweller or, like, at the very least, a   a more derogative term of,   someone who lives outside of the city. So, you know, uncouth,   uncivilized,   boorish.   Wow. Love that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I've been I've been told a few times that, like, I shouldn't use the term pagan to describe myself because it is such a derogatory term.   And I'm like, well,   I'm,   you know, as my my wife,   has told me many times   as well, if you don't name it, that's when you give it power. If you avoid the name,   that's when you acknowledge   that the name has power. So by naming it, by using the term, I'm taking it back.  

It's my It's easier to explain also.  

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It's easier to explain if people are are are, asking for Sure. Religion Yeah. Which which is not. I I I don't think paganism is a religion. It's a way of life. Like the Druids, like the Gaelic, like the Celts,   they had a way of life   to connect with mother nature   in whichever way. They knew   when the moon was standing like this and that, now you have to put the crops in the land. Now you have to harvest. All these things is Yeah. That was one hundred's moon, the harvest moon, the the Right.  

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Like, the the hair moon, they they really get they, you know, that was the,   yeah, that's that's, you know, when they knew   what to sow. It's when they knew when to sow. It's when they, you know, when they knew   to,   to harvest. It's when they,   you know, like, looking at looking at the stars, the position of the stars, and looking at the lands, you know, as above so below,   which really is just it's an ancient concept. It's not even a call that's ancient.   You know, they they knew   when the seasons passed. They knew when   another year   had passed,   or however they they   called it back then, at least, you know, the the   we went full circle again because, you know, talk is Yeah. We were living,  

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yeah, we were living basically   exactly as we should live   with the with the the tempo, with the with the seasons, with nature.   What he tried to do, in my opinion, with religion   is to take us off from that   from that perspective, from that from that way of life, because then they could indoctrinate us   with other stuff. Like, be careful because   the gods,   they made up some new gods,   are watching you. And I think that you   totally,   I agree with that, like like,   what you said in said in, the podcast with Derek Stitt.   Like, oh, it's a son of God, and it's God, and it's Christ. Well well, what what the hell is it now?  

I mean,   that that's what,   let's say the Norse   mythology   has different kind of views when it comes to religion because you have multiple gods.   Now comes a trigger.   This is a great thing.   They found   so so I did a podcast with Dario Andreella,   which is a Spanish no. Sorry. Italian guy.   He has a friend who is translating   the old scriptures   in the Vatican,   and he figured out that Elohim   is not one god,   but multiple gods. It's plural. Yeah.   It's plural. So that's what   the state for the the lack of the of a better word, the pagans did. And   that's what they wove it into Christianity   to give them, like, a marketing trick to get   the people from the land into a religion   because we still have a lot of influences   of the northern   mythology   in our   nowadays   life.  

Monday is the moon.   Tuesday is Tyr,   the god of war for Mars. We got Odin on on Wednesday,   Wodan. Hey. That's Wodan. Here's my dog. That's Wodan.   We got Thursday,   Thor. We got Friday, Friar.   So and then Saturn and sun and Sunday, which speak for themselves.  

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Well, with the the sires. The Saturn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. So I should be the  

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without the pagan rich rituals like Easter and Christmas,   it never been mentioned in the Bible.   It's why would you mention something that's against your belief system?  

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I mean, they were feast days because they they you know, every ancient culture   ever really,   you know, they they recognized   the   they recognized the solstices. They recognized   when,   you know, a,   a new time was upon us.   So, yeah, they they you know, at least the, the big four, let's say, you know, winter solstice,   spring, summer, autumn.   They recognize those.   Absolutely. I mean, look outside.   If you wanna deny them,   I mean, you gotta be blind, deaf, dumb, not able to feel, whatever. Just be like, not be alive, basically.   Right. Right. Or, I don't know, like, some some vegetable in a hospital bed somewhere.  

So, yeah, they they definitely   acknowledged it, and they, you know, did probably celebrate it. That's why,   you know, Christmas, for example, why the church,   it's it's really it's organized religion. It's not, you know, Christianity and of itself because that really started   it didn't start out   monotheistic.   It it started out as   more of a mystery religion,   you know,   because the the the Christ the the figure Christ that we that we know,   he was rebellious.   He was rebelling   against   the state.   He was rebelling against,   you know, just any   really set of governments.  

So I mean, you could say, like, Christ was more like, you know, more more like Jay Gevada than, you know, like, your, your peace loving hippie.   No. Yes. Yes. My comparison to make.   But, you know, no. It's the it's the the the return of   the the sun as as you, Anne.   Because after the winter solstice at, like, the the twenty, twenty first,   that's when the the days grow longer again. And the Romans   already had their feast day of Saturnalia,   on the twenty fifth. So in the,   you know, the the twelve days of,   of Yule, the twelve days of Christmas, because even   back,   I'm gonna say, like, a a hundred years ago, maybe less,   there were actual twelve days of Christmas and not just the two that we get now.  

I don't know. That's that's why the song is, like, you know, on the first day of Christmas and then, like, all the way down to the twelfth because there were twelve days of Christmas   because those are twelve days of Yule   starting at the summer solstice and usually   ending   around   the January 6.   Where was going with so, yeah, it's but, so, of course, you know,   Jesus   or or Christ, the Christ figure   being the light in the world. You know? That is his   his birth. Like, that is when, you know, light came back into this world.   But   because the the,   the the church, the the dogmatic   religious   organization,   known as   the church or the, the Catholic church, Christian church,   Vatican,   basically,   or world became the Vatican,   You know,   they, personified it. They they made it into, like, an actual physical   story, like, something that actually happened. And I'm I'm not saying that   it never happened. I'm not saying that the the the figure of Christ   never existed.  

I'm sure he did.   You know,   but   not in the way that   the books that the the the dogma   tells us that he does.   And that's why, you know, like, we we still celebrate   Easter,   with, you know, with spring   because, like, that's it's   it's a fertility feast. That's when nature comes back to life.   That's why it's more the symbolism of of the egg   to represent the Chiltea. That's why we use bunnies because, you know, reading like bunnies.   And they come off.   So,   like, if but that's really that's ancient. That's   pagan, if you will.   So it's really odd for the the church,   the the, you know, the the organized religion   to use such ancient imagery.  

You know, again, also with, you know, the father, the son, and the holy ghost.   It's the holy trinity.   Like, they call it a holy trinity, but we like, there are so many other holy trinities.   You know, even   Odin himself, vote on himself,   was part of what you could call a   holy trinity. It's also where we get the,   the   where we get the symbol from it from, like, the the the triangles. What is it again? The.   Yeah. Yeah. Supposedly, that is, like, it's it's basically three v's,   which stands for   Foden,   Willy, and Ve.   The three brothers   that created   our world out of the,   the body of   the primordial ice giant, Emea.  

And it was   Boden.   Boden.   Boden. Boden.   He is the one that,   or with his brothers, they, you know, they gave us life.   They created us. They breathed   life   into us.   So that story is still the same. Like, that's basically also the Adam and Eve story.   Well, that's what so many other religions, so many other   spiritual paths, belief systems, they all have   an origin story,   basically, having to do with man is created,   you know, either by the gods or through the gods   or,   you know, we're all part of a like, we all have a divine   bits, divine spark in us.  

We all have a flood myth.   Like, name me one culture around the world that doesn't have a flood myth. I don't know of any.   Not that I know all the cultures in the world, but the ones that I do know of, they have a flood myth. It's just in Germanic mythology is during Ragnarok,   during, you know, the the the battle of the gods.   You know, and, also,   it's another funny thing if you, the   symbolism fucking love symbolism.   When you think about,   the   Germanic   creation story, basically, or how our world came into being, if we were talking about the   the voids, Ganungagap,   is what it's called.  

It was the prime the realm of primordial   ice,   Muspelheim,   and raw realm of primordial fire, Niflheim,   came together   in Ganungagap   in the the void.   It's it's re it's basically like two circles coming together. And what do you get? You get the Vesica Pisces.   And what is the Vesica Pisces? It's also   female bits.   So, it's it's the   wanna keep somewhat somewhat clean. I know. It's just it's just biology.   I know. But I know. I know how that goes. It's a vagina. Yeah.  

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Your show.  

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Show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it was through the like, you could say the the the   this sounds really weird. I've never described it like this before. But the primordial   vagina   that our world was   birthed,  

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really. Right.   Right.   So and and, you you know, there's there's so many things that I digged into because of my interest in into the stuff.   And,   I I really like   the the symbolic things like the ruins, but that which we discussed. And and if if people that are listening like that, listen to the show that Stein has with Saralath. I have a show with Saralath too. Yeah. No. He knows everything about ruins.   Dude, mine my car's name's Ragnar.   I called him that, and, Ragnar and me, we're we're going on a path of an adventure.   But I figured out   not that long ago what the letters mean.  

And   if   you ask   well, for example, Chad GPT on Google, what does the rune   signature   of Rachnaar means? It's lining   up   exactly how my life is right now   with the adventure,   with the with the with the quest, with the, well, call it wisdom or or the things that I wanna give to the world.   It's so it's it's lining up for me perfectly, and   I know that you have on the April 1.   What do you do then, Stein,   on the April 1? April Fool's Day, what do you do?  

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I mean, that's that's the it's the return of of spring. That's when we're, like, when we're right past the solstice.   It's when the,   you know, the in the region here, that's when all the, all the flowers come back to life. It's when the flower fields start, start blooming. Oh, like a new year.   I mean, yeah. That's that's a wrap that's the,   that's on the solstice.   Yeah. That's that's the, the spring equinox.  

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So so I don't know if if you are are   the   same having the same opinion. So I think no. I think I'm not thinking.   I know that we have 13 moons   in one year.   If you see the moon cycles,   it's twenty eight days, the same as a cycle of a woman.   So if you count these days together, you have three hundred sixty four days. And there's one day   which has a normal year 03/1965.   What is that day? That's the beginning of a new year. Because if you go out on the December   31   to wish each other happy new year, it's cold, it's windy, it's foggy,   It's a fucked up thing outside. There's no life outside. It's dark. It's, you know, only black and white.  

But if you go out like I do as a pagan or a druid or whatever you're gonna call it,   on the April 1,   the birds are singing.   Everything has turned to green. Flowers are blooming.   It that's this real celebration that they don't want us, and that's also a part of the the propaganda and the indoctrination,   in my opinion   that the of not only the church, but the the three c's. So,   I heard that you called that on, and I was thinking about it today when I was listening to the episode. Basically, the   the   the world has been ruled by three seas.   That's the church.  

Mhmm. That's the capital,   and that's the cunt,   vagina.   These three things rule the world. Well   But   the the thing is,   since I've been lining up with this this   this belief system, like,   I am   I am the god   itself. I got a god particle. I am basically Jesus Christ,   and we can shine our light when we do the right things.   We can shine our light to the world and the world will see it. But that's a little bit the Bible story.   But since I've been lining up with with the runes and with the mythology   and all that stuff,   it all comes together for me.   It all is like, wow. This is really exactly   for me   how it is and how it feels right.  



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Because that's that's actual   nature. That is how we are   supposed   to be living. It's how we have lived for   thousands and thousands   of of years.   You know?   I mean, if you wanna go about that for   hundreds of thousands of years even. Right. Like, especially with with the natural cycles, like you mentioned before, like,   you know, especially around this time of year, at least at the the Northern Hemisphere.   You know, it's,   we're we're halfway through September.   You know? It's about   it's   about 9PM.   It's dark already.   You know? So, yeah, it's on the natural that your body is like, hey.   It's dark.  

There really are there really are no more things that we can do in the dark because, you know, we're not able to,   to see in the dark or not as well as,   you know, certain animals are, like my my cats, for example.   And, you know, also in the dark,   there are predators.   Like, there are, like, just   overall in the world. There are predators.   And because we don't see as well in the dark, those predators, they do.   So we don't see them,   but they see us.   Therefore,   dark is   dangerous.   So it's better to just   stay indoors,   stay in a, just a safe   environment   away from predator predators, you know, whether it be in,   in a cave,   somewhere high up,   you know, a hut, a home, whatever,   a safe environment,   you know,   get rest because, you know, your body needs to needs to rest,   needs to recharge,   and it does that best.  

You know, like, what's the best time to do that? Well, when all the other scary beings are outside and we can see them.   So when, you know, when the sun comes up again, it's like, okay, we're rested. And now we can, you know, we can see what is out there. We can go hunt. We can go scavenge. We can go,   you know,   gather. We can see   the predators so we know either to, I don't know, like, be be the bigger predator or just, you know, run the fuck away.   So, yeah, that that's that's only natural. And, like, you you said it already. It's like, by by, you know, 9PM, 10PM, your body is just like,   okay. It's just, you know, time to wind down, time to relax. And it is indeed, you know, artificial light and especially   blue light from our computers, from our our phones. Yeah.  

That is   keeping us awake   artificially, but that's that's not that's not natural. It's not our natural rhythm.   I mean   oh, are there's, like  

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those are the Yes. The, the blue light blockers. Oh, nice, man. Good stuff. These are the orange things. So it's really funny because I got a   a light which is   very bright LED light, but now it's yellow.   So I look like Aussie g now, so that's why I don't wear them normally and I.   But I will I will wear them probably when I'm gonna edit the podcast. Podcast. Yeah. Now so the thing is I yeah. Just like you said   yeah. But,   I figured something out while I was in, in LA by with, with Milton.   I got this   I did a lot of meditation before I went to LA in Arizona   in the middle of the desert and in Sedona.  

And I figured out the three six nine   way of life. And what I mean with that is if I take a power nap,   if I'm on the road, I'm a lot on the road for my job, and when I feel a little bit tired,   I put the car aside on its parking spot. I put the the alarm clock in thirty minutes.   Yeah. I swear to god. I I I do my little meditation. I fall asleep,   or I just been, you know,   blocked off from all the influences that I have normally on my on my nap,   on on my eyesight.   So   within these so after thirty minutes, alarm clock's ringing.   I'm open up my eyes. I start the car on a drive because I'm fit again. So thirty minutes, sixty minutes, or ninety minutes, which is normally a very good spot.  

And that's what a lot of people do when they have, you know, like, long shifts,   like crab fishers and stuff like that. They have, like   yeah. So you take a nap for thirty, sixty, or ninety minutes, but   it goes farther than that.   Let's say   at 09:00 at night,   I go to sleep for nine hours.   It's 06:00 in the morning when I wake up.   Yeah.   No. 06:00.   Take down another nine hours or another six hours, another three hours. It all lines up perfectly with six, three, and nine   all the time.   If you are into that kind of rhythm,   it suits you very well because even with a little bit of sleep,   you still have   the the most potent   volume of sleep or rest   as what you need.  



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Oh, I like it. Now I'm I'm also thinking, like, if we're just counting,   I mean, that it yeah. It makes it eighteen hours. It's a little little odd perhaps.   But, like,   three hours of,   like, very   intensive   hard work.   It's like that's also what I noticed with, like, physical training, for example.   Like, I can, yeah, I can do three hours. Like, I'm absolutely fucking done after three hours.   Like, that's absolute absolute max.   So, you know, like, three hours of, you know, just hard work, real intensive, whatever, then six hours of,   like, maybe some,   you know, mild mild work,   or just,   you know, like, for example, if you if you do, like, hunting, gathering, whatever,   go as hard as you can for three for three hours,   prep everything for, you know, the remaining six,   then,   you know, like, rest and and sleep for for night. Because I I did that's also one thing that I don't   really understand,   is, like, you know, so the what's really pushed on us is, like, eight hours of sleep. Like, you need eight hours of sleep.  

Usually, like, I feel a little better   with,   like, nine hours of sleep or, like, a little past   eight hours of sleep because that's when my my body has a natural tendency to wake up.   Like, eight hours of sleep, I need to set an alarm.  

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That's like after nine or so hours, my body is like  

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Waking up. Yeah. You know? We're good. We're good. And then I I swear No. I need a bit to,   you know, to get going, you know, if I, like, really wanna take my time and get everything nice and prepared.   If I if I can, I do? I do take, like, three hours. You know? Just,   you know,   wake up. Then, like, don't, like, hop out of bed immediately and go do stuff. No. Like, you wake up.   Go slow.   Take your time. You know?   Shower,   or as my my dad likes to, likes to say, you know, shower, shit, and shave.   Alright.   Love who does.  

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I do my intentions   every single day Yeah. When I wake up. And  

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yeah.   Trying to do that could take if you have the time, like, you can take those three hours to,   you know, like, wake up, do your meditations, do your, you know, your shower, shit, and shave,   have your breakfast, then you can,   you know, like, then you can do the work for,   you know, for a good six hours. And you like, you can do that, you know, with the the podcast or my videos or whatever.   It's it's a full day usually that I'm, like, that I'm working on it. Then, like, nine hours in those nine hours, you can you know, like, you can rest. You can do the, you know, the things that you you you want   to do, and then you have   well, then, yeah, you know, you still have a bit of free time left, and you can choose whatever to do with it. So I I do believe that, you know, three, six, and nine,   let now, you know, now that you're mentioning it, like, my   brain gets gets working.  

Like, it could also   be, like, just the the hours in in a day that we're supposed to do something, like, from, you know, like, very like, either take it slow than intensive to to,   you know, like, build off or, like, starting start intensive,   a little less intensive, and then, like, take it easy.   I I do feel that there's there's something in in the natural rhythm about that as well.  

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Yeah. And especially if you take these eight hours for consideration,   they're not natural. They they take you off the REM sleep. So you're you're basically waking up in the middle of your sleep. Yeah. If you take that instead of, let's say you can sleep nine hours because of work.   If you take six hours,   your body is   waking up already because you got these flows in sleep. Right? So you got a very fast sleep and you have a very light sleep, and you have your dream state. That's why I love when I'm waking up. I know that I still have more than an hour before I have to go to work.   I just take ten to fifteen minutes   with my eyes closed, still in this dream state.  

Like,   what do I wanna achieve today? Where am I grateful for? Like, the little things.   Not not like I wanna have this or wanna have that. No. I have a perfect card. Thank you for that. I have the freedom   to work. I have the ability and the strength and the help to work that brings in money. I'm very grateful for that. Or it gives me new networking   contacts. I'm very grateful for that. I got the knowledge   and the time   to do whatever I want with the podcasting, with the editing. I figure stuff out. I like to be,   you know,   learning things.  

But I I'm also grateful, like, like, wow. When I step out of the car, it didn't rain anymore, so I can take a pee without getting wet. Because if you live in a car, you basically don't go to the well, you go to the toilet, but it's you know, the world is a stage. It's a little different. And the world is my garden too. And, basically, it's my home.   So but these little things   and,   the other day, it was starting to rain here in The Netherlands after a very long period of sun. Yeah. And we were living in The Netherlands, so people were complaining. I was thinking like, you know how much,   grateful the trees and and the birds and and all the flora fauna was   living up because there was finally some water.  



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And then After the, like, the long summer that we had.  

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Wow. We had   it was Rubicana,   El Hollandia.   Dude, we had temperatures over 30 degrees, multiple   strokes.   I don't have wicks. You know that. Yeah. They're like,  

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wow.  

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I don't know   about you, but when I was a child and I was running to school with my bike with my push bike,   it was   in the in the summertime, it was still, like, fourteen, fifteen degrees in the morning,   which was really risky.   And then afternoon,   maybe the temperatures were rising till 21,   23.  

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25 degrees was, like I mean was 25 was, like, already considered, like, you know, you better stay in or you're you're you're gonna burn to a crisp. Right?   Right. I forgot. 35.   Yeah. Like, we've had a a few summers where   we're up to, like, thirty, thirty five, and, like, I I, you know, I used to be,   used to be a chef. I used to be a cook. And especially in the summers, like, you know, I worked a lot of beach clubs. I worked a lot of catering, a lot of outdoor catering.   Holy shit, man.   Like, I remember one summer, I was working at a, at a beach club.   I mean, just because, you know, there's always work there in the summer, and it's you know, especially if you're freelance, it's good money.  



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Like, I I   well,   I lost   sweat I lost sweat faster   than, like, I could drink the water.  

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And, like, I I remember just, like, especially the first day,   I didn't go to the bathroom  

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for the entire day because whatever,   you know, whatever I drank,   I sweat out just, like, pretty much   right away.   Right. And this becomes,  

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you know, more   normal than it it used to be.   Yeah.   Like, that's a I was I I do remember, like, a few hot summers, but never like this.  

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No. So I was in Sedona   this year,   Arizona, in the middle of the desert.   And when I came home and and it was,   so when I was in Flagstaff,   there was snow. I never thought   about snow   in in America, but that was probably my my my my little vision of America.   Because, of course, you got the up the the region upside, with the Rocky Mountains and stuff like that. Yeah. When I landed in when I landed in in New York, there was snow all over the place. So yes. Okay. I got it. East Coast, you know,   New York, Detroit, all that stuff. It's it's cold.   But when it was in Sedona, Arizona, you you don't think it's cold, but it was, like, really, really cold that night.  

And, eventually, I got a, a picture from Donna,   I think a a strong after I was,   back home from   Cactus   with snow because it was snowing in the desert.   So so, yes, you have the elevation because Flagstaff is higher up, so it's colder.   But, like, getting snow in Arizona, like, what the hell?  

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Yeah. But that's   shifting.   Yeah. But that's also a thing about the desert that is so incredibly interesting because there is no,   like, no real vegetation there to, like, either suck up the heat or,   you know,   like, beat out the cold.   So, yeah, like, in in during the, during the day,   you know, in certain places, certain deserts, I've I've been fortunate enough to travel a lot with my parents already. So we spent   at least   one night with the, the Bedouin in,   in Jordan.   That was really cool. That was really cool. And during the day, like, yeah, it got hot. Like, I'm talking 35,   40, you know,   at least.  

But at night,   you know, clear skies,   you know, just I mean, incredibly   beautiful, first of all. But it got really, really cold   because there's also nothing to   to trap   the heat.   There's nothing to fight the cold. Well, you know, it's just   it's sand.   And sand doesn't   mean the top layers.   Yeah. But, you know, the fur you know, go past the top layer.   There's nothing there.   And it's Yeah. This is a result there.  

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This is a reminder for everyone who is born to travel the world, and and please do.   If you go to a desert,   never ever   put food on the ground. Like, oh, I just peel a orange,   or an apple, and I'm gonna leave it here. Because it's gotta stay there forever. Yeah. So we hit or have critters   like rats and mouse and all that stuff that picks up the food.   In the desert, it's gonna stay there   forever.   Yeah.   And it's it's it's it's such a, so so yes. And it was getting cold in the desert for sure, but that is gonna snow in the desert. And we have this this really   strange things happening all over the world. I think it was last year   when it snowed in Florida.  

Like,   dude, people were just like, I'm in the state of Florida, and it's snowing. If there's something that, you know, like, oh, you wanna go to ice, sunny weather, go to Florida. Right? Like, it is literally the sunshine state.   That that's the sunshine state with with 20 centimeters of snow. Like, what the hell?   Yeah. Like this. You know?  

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Yeah. That's that's  

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I think that's it it's a very,   normal pattern   from   mother Gaia  

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Yep. Mother Earth.   It's a cycle. We're we're coming at the end of a cycle.  

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Yes. But everything they wanna put us   up with their let's call it an agenda, whatever the fuck,   is from the things that you   don't know. You can   or you don't see it,   or it's just always been around, and they can they can use it as a claim for their Yeah. Stupidity.  

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Like, especially with the, like, the the the rising of the, of the sea, rising of the ocean, and whatever.   Yeah. Yeah. We're Dutch.   Like, half of our country is below sea level.   If the sea level would have risen   as much as they kept telling us for, like, the last forty, fifty years as it would,   The the town that I live in, like, it's very it's very coastal. I mean, we're not, like,   we're not, like, at the coast, but, you know, like, go go   one, two towns over.   You know, we're at the beach.   I wouldn't be able to live there or I, you know, would be forced to   become a aquatic human.  



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Well, not not only that. Think about the insurance and the bags.   So let's say you wanna have a loan of, let's say, the house in in The Netherlands are crazy right now, like, €500,000   for a stupid house   in a coastal line. Do you think that   the insurance companies and the banks were to take a risk if that's gonna be flooded?   Oh, no.   And and a lot of people do not know, Stein, that,   probably   one fifth or maybe one sixth of The Netherlands   wasn't there forty, fifty years ago.   They dried up the sea.  

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We created an entire province back in the what is the seventies?   Yeah. Like,   we   decided we need more land, so we created more land.  

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Yeah,   man.   It was fine. It's good that we're good at it. So we have one   really   big   flooding problem   in   '53 or '52.  

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'53  

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in Zeland. Yeah. '53, Zeland. Yeah. So there was a dike,   that broke, and it was not a girl. It was a real dike.   Sorry for that.   But,   it flooded, like,   I think almost a quarter of The Netherlands.   But, yes, just like you say, so we got MAP   level, which is called New Amsterdam   level   translated,   a new Amsterdam spell Yeah. Which is basically the the the the c level.   And,   like, every That's the zero points, basically. That's the zero point. Yeah. Yeah. And we're,   most cities, especially where you live in that region,   are, under sea level. So if if the sea is really good A few meters. Yeah.  

You'll be yes. Not like, oh, you're gonna have them dry feet. No.  

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No. The whole fucking sun If if if the if the dikes break, like, yeah, like you said, like, you know, it's not just, oh, oh, I better get my,   you know No. Better better get my boots. You know? It's just like, oh, you know, because what feet? No. It's like, if shit's gonna break here,   fuck. Oh. I mean Go. Yes. Stay in, like, like, good thing I know how to swim, but   I'm Wow.   I'm gonna have to move quite literally because my my house would be just   gone.  

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Yeah. Gone. Gone. And the region where I live, which is much more south, we have the Mas,   the river, and that's gonna be flooded every single well, a few years. I've been working in a in a place called Vanlo,   back in the nineties, and it's the mass flooded and the whole city of Vanlo and not only Vanlo, but all the cities that are basically on the on the shoreline of the of the of the river,   they're flooded. Like, the sellers and all that stuff. Dude, that's a that's a big problem, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Because you can't stop water when it's rising.  

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Maybe it's more devastating than well, it's just as devastating as fire.   I mean, you both   almost well, you can't you can't control fire.   Water? They're equal opposite forces. I'd say fire is really,   is really fast. Like, the damage it does is just   you know, it's it it's there, and it's gone, and everything is just   fucking done.   Water   leaves,   it's, like, it's also very destructive. You know? Like, if a if a wave comes crashing in oh, you know?   But And look at the tsunami. The the damage   afterwards and, like, over the years   is greater. So it's it's it's longer lasting, I'd say, with water. So that in that way, they're,   like, equal opposite forces, both as destructive,   but in a,   in a very   different way,   because,   like, as as everybody knows who, you know, like, went out for a swim or, you know, has has made a, like, a a campfire or a bonfire or whatever.  

Fire leaves   nothing.   Like, nothing. Anything that it can use as   fuel, it'll use as fuel, and all that is left is ashes.   But, like, if a if a dam or a dike or whatever breaks and the water comes flooding in,   it's a it's a mess.  

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It is an absolute mess. Strong. You can't so you you could stop a fire.   We can't stop water.   You can't stop   well, there there you know, we got the sand sacks to to to build a little dike to to prevent from coming in. But when it's rising from from from from under, you're not gonna stop. And it's really funny   and really funny because they're opposites drag, of course.   So you can put out fire with water, and you can evaporize water with fire.  

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Yeah.   Did she know your allies How they on your own house? At the, like, the big forest fires.   They literally fight fire with fire. You know? But they they control it.   Like, they they,   control burn certain pieces,   like, in,   in front of the fire, like, where the major fire hasn't come yet.   So they create, like, a natural   old border, really, where the fire stops. That's right. Because there is no there is no fuel there anymore.  

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Yeah. Then that's why they build forces   here, which are I think it's, it's not that big. So it's, like,   15% of The Netherlands has forests. If you look in in the overall,   15%, which is quite big for a country, to be honest with, for a little country that we have. But the thing is they built, like, these,   roads, call it roads. They call it   So the fire can't scab over. So so   just like you said, there's no fuel. There's no fuel. So this eventually   depends on how the,   how everything goes with the wind, of course, with all the elements.   But,   yeah, it's really it's really fascinating   how The Netherlands has been build off   and what kind of history that The Netherlands has been going through.  

And especially when we see what's happening right now because   the the people that are generations   long,   took in taking care of this land and providing   almost   the whole world of food,   they wouldn't get these people off, the farmers,   which is of course a little bit of political thing.   But,   that's also the little power thing that we talked about before, like the Vatican and the indoctrination   of,   of religions   and and all that stuff. And and what we see right now   on the world stage is, like, grab your beer and your popcorn and enjoy the show because it's such a big fuck up. If you can see through the lies right now,   you're basically just like,   you know,   yeah. What did you say in the beginning? Like, a a vegetable in the hospital. Right? You know, you're just like, what the hell is going on with you people if you don't figure out now   that are it's the end of times of the of the of the called the the devil or whatever because  

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a lot of people are waking up. You know, that's the thing with, like, so many   religions, so many belief systems.   You know, like, I that's that's   that's literally how I how I started my podcast with,   a few   round tables on,   Ragnarok   and, like, the end times in the different, like, religions or religious books and all of that.   It's a hell of a way to kick off a podcast, by the way.   Like, I don't know if I start a podcast and I need to, like, just do hour long round tables where I get from everyone together.   It's like Right. Who knows an hour? The longest I did was six plus hours. Like, it was the whole night for me. Yeah. Holy shit, dude. I think that was three the time, like, the the proper setup that I do now with I mean, I'm I'm, you know, now in my my dad's study.  

But, like, now at home, like, I have, like, the the the, you know, the gaming chair that, you know, every good streamer has.   I have, you know, like, a good mic and a good cam and all of that. No. I was working with fucking bare minimum. Like, I have my laptop. I had I don't I don't I don't think I even had, like, a separate webcam. Like, I was using the webcam   from my my laptop. From laptop. Yeah. Like a what was it? Like a €30   mic or something that I plugged into my laptop with just this this shitty USB cable.   Right.  

Wooden chair. Like, just wood. Straight wood. I could put a cushion on it, but it's after six hours, like,   oh,   Right. That's how I snarted my show. That's how I started doing this, man.  

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Oh, man. I I recognize a lot of things because, yeah, I I started the same thing. And but then I had all the gear, and I still got the gear. But my, my gaming chair is now every single day suited with my, nephew or my niece who are playing on,   not on my Xbox, but   on an Xbox that I did.   So it had so many hours of, of work.   And, now   I got it all very compact. And and and thanks to to technology that I can do it with my cam, and thanks to all the sponsors of my show that allow me to do this.   Shout out to Yos who provided me this   phone because he said, dude, you you you need to have, like, the the capacity to get your content out on a good, you know,   somehow value   valuable   way. And the things that I was running with,   not with my computer, that was   quite slow, but it was quite good, you know, when it comes to the quality.  

Now, of course, I'll rumble. Probably, some people will not look at me because it's, like, 06:40 or something like because it's a phone that's recording.   But the thing is,   we still can do this   while we're here   with the mid really the minimum. This is just my phone. This is a a LED light, and I'm sending in the best chair ever. It's it's a it's a leather chair for Volvo. I I mean, come on. Woah. But the thing is That's good shit.   Oh, yeah. The oh, my car goes through walls, man. This is this is   I love rock art. So but the thing is,   if you take into consideration   that, like, twenty years ago, if you would   talk to someone who was doing podcast or doing music   and doing his own production or videos,   that will be a producer.  

Right? Like, several with a lot  

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of twenty years ago.   Twenty years ago, you had   you had Talk Radio or, like, at at best,   maybe,   twenty years ago, back in my teens.   Like, you you had, like, pirate radio,   perhaps?  

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Audio of the recording cast.  

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Yes. At the end, it's how we got started. That's for sure. Yeah. True pirates.   You know, way out in,   in international waters.   Like, the yeah. That was, like, now that's point now that's a good pirate radio.   But, no, that that was, like, twenty years ago, and it it was No. No. It's longer.  

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So so we're 25 now. I think that, radio of America on on the sea, when they were real pirates, it was, like, in the seventies.   They make seventies, eighties. Yeah. Something like yeah. Seventies. So it's forty years already. It's all metal. Time time is is just a human construct, but it it's still flying.   And it's really funny.  

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And it goes faster as well. Like, it's it's been it's been proven.   My my my wife actually told me that the other day that, like, a,   over the   I don't know how many years. I'd I'd I have to ask her again.   But over, like, a,   I was I believe it was, like, ten ten, maybe twenty years.   Like, a second no longer takes   a second.   It's shorter.   Time actually goes   faster  

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now. So is I mean, is that we're talking with the end of times?  

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Yeah. I mean, we are there. We are,   you know,   we are in the Kali Yuga. We are in the the, well, spiritual iron age, if you will.   This is the apocalypse,   but, like, the the literal apocalypse, you know, the the lifting of the veil, not the end. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But the end of Aquarius we know it. Like, not the physical   end, like Hollywood's death and destruction.  

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No. The age of Aquarius, chaos creates harmony is right now, and we're in the middle of the eye of the storm.   In the middle. You can see that.   And and it's really funny that you you you brought it up because   it it's not it's   the the thing is,   I I saw someone who posted something and is really intriguing me, and it's really interesting.   So we were talking about before the March   and and how   unnatural   the times are that we have to work and stuff like that. Mhmm. You know why?   And it's really,   really   it was mind blowing.   There's only daytime right now from like   07:00 in the morning when the sun comes up   until   maximum 08:30, and then the sun comes down.  

That is one day.   Because the night, just like you described a few seconds ago,   is   we can't do anything. Normally, we have to rest   or, you know, have a conversation with  

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No. Nighttime is not work time. Nighttime is No. You can. Nighttime is you.  

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Yes.   But if you take to encounter,   or to the equation that okay.   So our day times is from six to, let's say, nine for in the example,   is thirteen   twelve to thirteen hours.   If you would put up   eight hours   of work   in that daytime,   you would say, like, what the hell? I'm not gonna divide   my whole day   or 80%   of work. But because they took the night with it, they say, we got twenty four hours in a day. This is only eight hours of work. Yeah. And especially, like, when I  

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like, back when I used to work in the, in the kitchen, like, those were, like, you know, sometimes thirteen, fourteen hour days   if I was, like, very unlucky.   Especially in the winter, like, I'd go to work   when it was still dark,   and I'd come home when it was dark.   Yes. Like, when you were the times that I I barely saw any, you know, daylight. Like Sunlight. Maybe, like, way back in the kitchen, like, through the windows in front of the restaurant, but,   you know, that that was about it.   And They're at least not normal.   And even now, they expensive.  

Yeah. Even my my job big.   Yeah. With the oh, yeah. For sure. Like, with my current job, I have to,   like, I have to be,   well, because I I work in a penitentiary, so, like, I still have to go through, like, the metal detector and X-ray and whatever. So   they they say, you know, like, if you really, like, really wanna be in time, be there at 06:30   in the morning.   Like, I'm not a morning person anyway,   which is gonna be hella fun because, tomorrow,   you know, as you said at the beginning of the show, I'm I'm taking my parents to the airport, so we have to get up at over fifteen.   I know.  

I hate it already.   But, like, especially, like, in the in the summertimes,   I mean, I I still hate it because it's way too early. But then at least, you know, it's light when I wake up, and it's it's like the sun is, like, pretty much,   like, up up when I get to work.   I'm noticing now already, like and I I was starting to notice that in,   in August   already.   Like, it was still,   you know, dark, semi dark when I got up.   And, like, you know, the the sun came up as I went to work.   Now  

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it is still dark when I get to work.  

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Yes. And that that's it doesn't feel doesn't feel right.  

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And, also, like, you know, the the thing is, you know, the the eight hour workday, eight hours of sleep, you know, they they figured, like,  

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well, a day, like, an entire   day as   we see in The Netherlands. Yeah. Now it's twenty four hours. So, you know, like, you got eight hours of sleep.   You got eight hours of work, then you still have, like, eight hours of   do whatever the fuck you want.   Right. What they don't take into account   is,   for example, like travel   to work.   Oh. No. I mean, I only have to,  

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have to drive, like, in half hour to work.   But two and back, that's already an hour. And that goes, like, off the the eight hours  

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of free time that I have. Then I still you know, I I wanna get out of my work clothes.   So,   you know, that's   what? Another   fifteen minutes,   thirty minutes. I'm saying half an hour with Charlotte. I need to unblind from work, get into my normal clothes and whatever. And, like, also imagine all the people that, yeah, they've already worked eight hours,   but then they're   no. It it's expected   from them that if something comes up, they work like another one or two hours   at home.   So that takes the workday from eight hours to, you know, nine, ten hours, and they do whatever the fuck you want to six hours. And in those hours,   you gotta spend time with your family.  

You know, maybe you have I don't know. Like, you gotta Cooking. You got you gotta walk you gotta walk the dog.   You gotta do your groceries,   your laundry, your washing, your cooking, whatever. That's still, like, work, but it's housework.   But it's still work. Like, you're not doing nothing.   So take all of that into consideration and, like, what do you have left?   Four hours?  

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Maybe Don't complain. We pay you for the bullshit.  

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Golf. I don't care.   I don't care. Freak sign. If I'm home, I'm home. I don't care.   Oh, well, you know, this day, this comes up, we expect you to know, no.   If I'm working And you said I have to do this thing outside of work, fucking pay me for it.  

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We we had,   it was, I think, back in   the in the nineties, we had a   a a thing that's called that it was a plan that they wanted to roll out.   And it was, like, to,   get rid of all the traffic jams in The Netherlands because it's hell, especially where you live in the area. It's like Oh, yeah. You have, like, a fifteen minute drive. If you have to go to Schiphol at, like, 07:00, be there, don't get it. 08:00, you  

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All set of God. Let you take that into consideration. If it's, like, an outburst. Yeah.  

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So the thing is they wanted to introduce flexible   working times. So you can get there at 06:00 until 09:00 at work. So you have basically, some people say, like, I wanna be early at work. Some people have to drive their kids to school and then go to work. So you have more   less people on the road that are stuck to go to the nine to five job because that's why it was called a nine to five job. Here comes the thing. Back in the nineties, they did not have a technology as they have now. And the big companies said, like, we can't control that, and it's too expensive   or   the people that are taking care of the salaries   to figure out who was in   the right place on the right time and how many hours that they made. So they skip that. So that's where we're all stuck   from 07:00 in the morning until, let's say, 08:30   with with with fully roads.  

And the same thing goes from 05:00 until seven sometimes. And   Yeah. Do not take in consideration   the roadworks that they have right now. All the biggest roads  

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that connects everything. Yes. Especially especially here on the, like, the the A A 4, A 44 Highway, which is, like, the main artery is, like, it it goes from Amsterdam to The Hague, which is, like it's only, like, one of the major arteries in the entire of Anstead. You know?  

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Yes. And they did they took some work works now on the A 6076   from, let's say from   well, basically, from Venlo to to Eindhoven.   A 73, so it's just start to. It's yes.   So they want us to be on time.   And and what I figured out, Stein, I don't know if you have the same perception about that.   Every single time when we go into, like, a vacation mode or a holiday mode that everybody's going to be on holiday,   they break up all the fucking roads. Like, oh, you have a good time with your kids in the car, and they're complaining and whining. Are we still are we already there? And they have the traffic jams all over the place.  

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Yeah. But that that is also,   there there is a there is a good reason for that, and it's not just to bully us.   Not not just to bully us. That has to be part of it for sure.   But it's like when every   well, you know the Dutchies. We love to bully each other.   Fine. Especially you would get paid to do it.  

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Yeah.  

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But, like, when everyone is on vacation, when, like, the half of The Netherlands is in the South Of France, because, I mean, where else will we be?   It's it's like it's France or   Spain. That's that's that's pretty much it.   Or the camping.   Right.   But, like, that then, you know, there are a lot less people on the road, and I I've noticed that I, you know, I worked throughout the summer.   And,   yeah, there were a lot less people on the road, so you have   more time and more space to work on the roads that that is   it's it's,   you know, that's   at least, I think, that is the the the thought   pattern. But, yeah, to do it, like,   right when, you know, the summer break starts,   like, oh, but you're going on vacation?  

Good luck.  

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Right. And for people listening at home that do not   picture this,   The Netherlands is a country which is basically 41,000   kilometers   square kilometers.   So that's like 35,000   square miles   with 18,000,000   people on it.  

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I mean, if you are in America, I Most of them here in the, like, the economic triangle. So, you know, Amsterdam, UK, Rotterdam, like, the the region that I live in. I I live in, like, a a nice part of of that part of the country.  

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Right. Right.   So,   Stijn, where can people find you?   Where are you on what channels, and and what are you doing in in in your spare time except doing podcast? No. Where can people fight for something for you?  

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No.   The main channel, of course, that I'm active on is my YouTube channel. That is youtube.com/@steinfox.   Social media wise, it is Instagram instagram.com,   /grayhornpagans.   It's best to contact me on the grayhorn pagans account.   Telegram.   Just look up Greyhorn Pagans, look up Skyfox.   You're guaranteed to find me. And if that is too much information   and, you know, like, oh, they do this from different platforms.   Just go to the websites, www.greyhornpagans.com.   Everything is on there. And if it's not on there yet, then at least it will have a link that'll link through.  

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Right. I'm gonna put that in the short description. I think that's the easiest part for people to connect to you,  

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to see the stuff. And, yeah, the podcast, podcasts,   videos,   the the video part of it   every   Saturday. I mean, like, not every Saturday anymore.   There there will be more I have to schedule than I have, like, a lot of people who started scheduling the sales on the show all of a sudden.   I actually I actually have a very interesting one Friday, this Friday at time of recording. I'm gonna have a,   like, an actual Freemason on. So that's that's really, that's gonna be awesome.   That's Nice.   Yeah. So,   that is every   Saturday. I'm kinda experimenting with some   new times, but definitely every Saturday on YouTube,   every   Tuesday   on the   audio platforms.  



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Wow.   Busy, busy, busy.  

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That's just the channel and the podcast, and I still have a full time job,   aside from all of it, working at the penitentiary.  

[01:45:07] Unknown:

Well, we're shredding it, man. I I don't think,   as I think it goes the same for you. I I got a lot of things that I have to do in my personal life or or business life or whatever. When I got so much energy about the things that I'm doing, the creation that I can do,   I never look back at what I created because that that's gonna stop me because then I'm gonna procrastinate and have anxiety. I wanna be perfectionist.   It's never gonna be perfect. What I think is gonna be perfect within, like, let's say, one day of editing,   Some people would say like, oh, that was shitty. And then I put something out,   like, on my phone, just like, here it is. Like, wow. That was amazing. Like, fuck. Why do I spam? So it's just I just put it out. And,   again, I think   I'm not thinking.  

No. Stop thinking, Rob. Do that in your free time. I know.   And if you give creators,   little creators,   creative creators like me and Stein or Stein and me better said,   the opportunity   to do the stuff that we're doing right now   with better equipment,   and we we're gonna have more beneficial   income from that.   That will change the world, not only for us, but also the people   too. For sure.  

[01:46:27] Unknown:

For sure. That's why I've been doing more on,   on Patreon. That's why I've been making more,   Patreon exclusive podcasts. That's why I've done, you know, a few exclusive episodes,   for the Greyhound Pagans podcast.   Like, I I love creating,   but also I'm I'm really   trying to, to build my Patreon   at the moment because that is just,   because, as I said, like, at the beginning, YouTube doesn't let me monetize my channel.   So it is through,   Spreaker, the the main podcast host that I'm using.   I'm making a little bit of money, but most of it is gonna have to come from,   from Patreon or my merchandise, and my merchandise isn't selling.  

So,   that's why I went to Patreon.  

[01:47:20] Unknown:

Same here. I'm just figuring out how to start up the only fans account just to get the money and to do this podcast.   Oh, yeah. My battery is draining. That's why I wanted to well, not closing off and just like that because Yeah. First of all, I wanna   I wanna thank you for for hopping on this production   style. I'm we I'm gonna share this episode so you can put it on your platform too. I think that's the best color collaboration that we can have.   We had I I think we we touched base on so many great topics.   I hope you had a great time too.  



[01:47:53] Unknown:

Always, man. Always.  

[01:47:56] Unknown:

Good. Good. Good. And for all listeners out there,   if you wanna know more about me or Stein, I'm gonna put this the the the links in the show description.   You can find me in this on the zornashproductions.com,   and a new website is up and running, holisticcarnomad.com.   And I'm working on some new project.   Oh, I'm stumbling about my words. I'm working on some new projects also to get more juice going in this in this world to be creative.   And,   well, no matter where you are on this beautiful   planet,   all of mother herb, I wish all of you a beautiful grand rising,   beautiful day, or beautiful evening no matter where you are. And, thank you for listening to this episode,   Telehuman.  

Thank you.   Namaste.   No. Exactly. It's just   enjoy your time, man. And,   I wish you safe travels, sir, with your mom and dad tomorrow, and, we hook up soon. Well, they're gonna travel. I'm staying here, unfortunately. You know? Right. But you have to travel through simple. So  

[01:49:11] Unknown:

it's the least I can  

[01:49:13] Unknown:

do. Right. Okay. Thanks, man. Have a good and good one, and, we talk to each other soon, man. Thanks. Yes. For sure, bro.  

[01:49:31] Unknown:

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