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In this episode of the Disorganized Productions Podcast, host Rob and guest Donna continue their adventurous journey in part two of "The Man with No Plan and the Girl in the Van." The duo recounts their spontaneous road trip across California, highlighting their experiences from Los Angeles to Santa Cruz, and eventually to Napa. They share stories of unexpected encounters, breathtaking landscapes, and the profound connections they made along the way. Rob and Donna reflect on the lessons learned about trust, spontaneity, and the power of living in the moment.

Throughout the episode, Rob and Donna discuss the importance of letting go of plans and embracing the unknown. They delve into the personal growth and healing they experienced during their travels, emphasizing the significance of human connection and the beauty of seeing the world through fresh eyes. Their journey is filled with laughter, introspection, and a deep appreciation for the simple joys of life, leaving listeners inspired to embark on their own adventures without fear or expectations.

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Skip me branch like squirrel, baby.   What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect for the law.   Welcome fellow human to the disorganized productionist podcast.   The show that fuels your spirit,   ignites your potential,   and helps you become the best version of yourself.   I'm your host, Rob,   and each episode   will embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you. Tap into your limitless potential   and conquer life's challenges.   Ladies and gentlemen,   hello, Euens.   Welcome to another episode of disorganized productions. Today is part two   of the man with no plan and the girl in the fan.  

And, please a warm welcome   for Donna.  

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Hello,   humans.   We are back for part two.  

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Right. And this is gonna be very exciting part. Right?  

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Yeah. Because  

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we introduced   you,   me, to the audience while I was having a a trip to America   and when we when we met met each other. And for the ones that didn't listen to that episode,   take a listen.   Right?   I mean, I'm not your kindergarten,   whatever.   So,   we were   so, yes, last time that we talked,   we talked about that you said to me,   like, I'm gonna visit my dad,   and it's gonna take us a little while. Maybe you wanna jump into my car in my van, and we're gonna have a road trip together. So I said,   yeah. Let me pack my bags   and go with this poo poo   y, unknown   woman,   hippie   in the car, in a van,   and having a road trip.  

And the the best part of it is that   she just   let   a guy that she just met   from another continent.   Oh, yeah. It's okay. He choked it on bad.   I should be a serial killer.   I turned out not to be one. Not in America, though.   So okay.   So   I went to Milton,   which provided me a beautiful sleeping place in,   in LA.   And I said, I'm going to   have a road trip with Donna.   He said, fine. I mean, I hope you're doing well. And I said to him, like, when I come back, I'll let you know. And,   so the trip started.   Donna, please tell because you got a better you got a better brains than me.  

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Okay.   So   I asked Rob what he's going to do because I had to go   to see my dad and napa, and it's gonna take me a bunch of days. Will you be back? Will you still be here when I return?   And, oh, yes. Probably just stay in the hotel this whole time.   Like,   you're gonna you're just gonna stay   inside?   Like, maybe maybe you should come see America. You came all this way.   Go on a road trip.  

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Right.  

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So we,   we   got things figured out, and we packed   everything in my front seat onto my bed.   And everything under my bed was your luggage.   And the floor where I can usually stand up and move around is now full   of things.   Road snacks and   Right. Packs and   packages. I don't know.  

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So   we drove   out of LA, and that was, like,   for me, something like, wow. Traffic is always a hell in LA.   But   I think a lot of people do not know,   especially here in The Netherlands. So if you drive out of the city, it doesn't take that long until you are into the new in another city or another village or whatever   because it's so dense.   But in LA, it was like, oh,   it seems we're out of LA because there's nothing on the left and nothing on the right. There's nothing, only   fast planes of nothingness.   And   we talked briefly before.   There was a   connection that we had   about   healing,   about,   communication   to each other,   about   yeah.  

Especially about healing.   I was kind of activated in Sedona. You came from Sedona, and you know what I'm trying to say with with activated   Sedona.   It's a beautiful, beautiful, very, very powerful spiritual place   with a lot of good energy.   And, all of a sudden, I'm in a van   with the girl   from the van,   and we were driving to Santa Cruz.   Right?   Right.   So that was an experience itself, of course, because Santa Cruz is on a beach.   Well, Los Angeles is on a beach too.   But you figured out to okay. We can see my girlfriend,   Erin   Mhmm. In Santa Cruz.  

And   when we arrived in Santa Cruz,   it was   totally different than LA.   I mean, it was very nice   really nice place.   And,   we went for dinner.   We saw some,   crazy individuals.  

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We did.   But before we got there,   you you were you were driving my van.  

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Oh, was that be was that the day?  

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Yes. You drove my van.   We left LA,   and we're driving. We've got about five hours to go.   And you were you said, oh, I could do the driving.   So here here's you driving my van.  

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Right. There was   alright.  

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And so we're coming through,   over the mountain. We call it the grapevine. We came down. We're we're going through it, and it's like, wow. It's so beautiful.   And I'm like,   yeah. It's the same old thing.   Like, I don't know. And here's Rob. Oh, it's so beautiful.   I'm like,   it's just a mountain.   But here's here's one.   When we went through the mountain, and it was all all day,   and we store.   And we took pictures. Yep.   Yeah. It was,   and then we drove through,   through Gilroy   where I used to live.  

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Right. Was that the first day when we went wow.   Oh, you're you're you're   oh, now you're you're   you're screwing around with my brain. Okay. Right. So I I knew that when I was driving the van, we just had a had a stop to to gas up. And I said, I can drive perfectly if you want. I mean, that's that's my profession.   Yeah. Sure. With with some, you know, I'm not sure   kind of vibe. But yeah.   So you were sitting next to me, and I was driving your car, your van, your house, your everything.   But And you were perfectly fine with it. You were perfectly fine with it. You were so relaxed.  

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I just was you were the first person that ever drove my house.  

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I was the first person that put something in your car.   I was probably one of the first men that ever entered your van on the passenger seat.  

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No. I've had passengers,   but nobody   nobody drives my house.   That's my house. Nobody drives my house. I'm like, oh, okay. Sure. And I'm sitting there in the passenger seat going, wow, Donna. You just you just let this man from another country drive your house?   You don't even know. Can he even drive in America? I don't know. Here we go.  

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Yeah. I I I told you, like, I think there's a lot of things in common when it comes to Europe.   We drive on the same roadside,   so on the right.   And it's not that it's not that difficult normally.   So, yeah, after a while, you you said, okay. I can drive again. I I got you completely. I mean, yes.   So   what  

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So you were driving we were driving up and down mountains and curvy roads, and you were like, what? Wow.   Right. And these   this was, like, an opportunity   for me actually to see   where   is completely normal for me, completely   common   everyday kind of stuff,   to see it from a new perspective   and be like, wow.   That's cool. And then I started, like, getting into it going, wow.   It is so beautiful because Rob is just wow. It's so beautiful. I'm like, wow.   So I took him up this really curvy road to this little,   spot that you can on top of the mountain, you can kinda see the ocean, but it was really cloudy that day. So we can't really see the ocean, but we saw the clouds, and I'm like, that's where we're going. You're like, way over there? I'm like, yeah.  

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And I shit on my pants so many times, especially in Lows. So we went to Santa Cruz. I mean, we got another Santa Cruz story coming up.   Yeah. But if you drive there   and you know about nature I mean, it could be one blink,   and it could be   your life could be destroyed   about another car, about slipping off the road, about getting next to the road, about a fucking rock that dropped from a rock.   There there are a lot of possibilities to kill you within that stop, but   it's beautiful to drive there. And   I kid you not. I shit in my pants a few times because   I was in the passenger   seat,   and you have to see that if you're driving the you know, what kind of m 25, what the fuck was the road?  

So you got your asphalt,   and next to it is like a drop of 30 centimeters, like like a a wheel drop,   and there's concrete and rocks. So you you're not gonna get out. You you you're gonna destroy your fucking car. And I was sitting in the passenger seat like,   oh,   oh, oh, I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm I'm I I thought, like, okay. She's driving for more than fifty years now in America. It's gonna be okay. Rob, chill out. I'm like, dude, chill out. No. No. I need to smoke some fucking pot to chill fucking out.   So   we had some great dinner in Santa Cruz, like the,   the Thai food. There was a Thai food. Right? Yes. It was really good.  



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So the Thai food place is where my,   sister,   Erin,   has landed. That's where she's living in her van with her boyfriend and her his van.   And they're they're working here in Santa Cruz, so we stopped there to see them. And   she's working at this Thai food restaurant,   and   we just popped in, like,   I'm surprised.  

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Right.  

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Yeah. That was that was really cool.   So we sat there and we ate,   and then we went for a walk.   Uh-huh. And you went, oh, we saw her boyfriend and the dog, and we had a whole conversation with them.  

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Right.  

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And I think the funniest thing was when you said $8   for an ice cream.  

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Right.   Oh, yeah. But that was, like, the the whole place was packed.   So the the funny that you bring up the story because,   last strong, there were some few nice warm days.   And on it was last last strong, so it was on Friday. And it was really hot, and we know a guy that has his own ice cream. Right? So he has a ice cream van.   And he pulled over,   and I remember   about Santa Cruz. Seven Dollars or $8 for a fucking ice cream. Just like, what the fuck, dude? I really love ice cream.   But here comes the thing.   If you pay $8   for an ice cream in America,   you're gonna have two of these kind of balls   stick as an ice cream.  

This whole fucking thing, you pay in The Netherlands also $67,   but just like a few little balls.   You know, everything in America   everything in America is big.   It's over exaggerated.   If you got a truck, what kind of wheel fit down on my truck? Well, these are the biggest that we have. We ain't got no bigger, Bubba. Oh, well, we got some tractor wheels. We can fit some tractor wheels under my truck. That's fucking awesome.   Everything is big in America.   The food is awesome. I I gained a lot of   a lot of weight, and I didn't eat that   exceptionally   much.  

But   it the place was packed, and it's sure it's fucking good ice cream. Afterwards,   now,   I think we we should go for it next time.  

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Yeah. Next time, we'll definitely go for the ice cream.  

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Yes. We all you always should go for your ice cream. I mean,   you gotta lick some stuff. You gotta lick it.  

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And so we stayed at the hotel that night there in Santa Cruz.   And the next morning, we get up and we go what?  

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Wasn't the hotel at the beach?  

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No. It was the first one, like, beachfront end or some  

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Beach. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. I recall. Yeah. Yeah. Right?  

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And and we could see Enola from the the shutters.  

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Yes. Good. We we could see Like, okay.   Yeah. We're gonna keep an eye on you. Don't don't fuck around on the cars.  

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So we drove around, and we saw Aaron at a restaurant.   And we were sitting there having breakfast   with her.   And me and you were sitting on Yes.  

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Wow. Yes.   I know when when stories comes up now, please tell.  

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I hope it's the same story.   So it It is. So we so we're sitting across from each other, and she's so   the the two of us are on one side, and she's on this side. Right? And she's sitting there, and we're talking. We're having this conversation, and she says like this.   She says looking back and forth,   looking at her eyes, and then I started to giggle. She's like,   I'm like, oh, you see it? And she goes, Donna,   do you guys know that your eyes   are exactly the same?   And she's like, all the way down from, like, the colors, the rings, the shade, the spots, all the things about our eyes. He's like, Donna, you guys have the same eyes.   I'm like, right?  

Right. No. It's not even a thing.  

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That's crazy.  

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So here here's Aaron who knows me very, very, very well,   sitting across from us going, wow.   You guys have the same eyes.  

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Then the waiter came   and asked, like,   did are you ready to order yet?   And I was looking, like, astonished   about the prices.   Like,   dude, it's like   so there was a big lesson for me to learn   also about the price, and it's one big lesson that you learn, especially.   Like,   don't look at them.   Do you like the food? Order it. You know? Because otherwise, you have a poor mindset. I'm I'm I'm I know it. I I want to   I want to take that mindset down,   but it takes it takes some time. So I said, what the hell   do I'm gonna get for $25   for a fucking breakfast? So   So because I couldn't picture   what's gonna be   the thing that I want. You know? I I couldn't figure out how big the plate is or whatever.  

By the way, the restaurant was packed.   It was packed.   So   you both   gave me some   information   about, well, it's this and that, all that stuff. So,   okay, we're ready to go. Right?   So and then,   of course, you you gotta   encounter the the unlimited coffee   in America.   You you pour on one coffee and and somebody comes by. We need another one. Oh, fuck yeah.   Keep on pouring the coffee.   Then the breakfast get I don't I don't I can't recall what I had. I think I had toast, some beans,   eggs,   but it was oh, pancakes. The the the the the crazy pancakes, not not the ones that I used to eat.   But it was good. It was I mean, it was a lot, and it was good. It was a good   breakfast.  



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We don't do beans here in America with breakfast. Oh,   not.   Do the We don't do potatoes.  

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Yeah. The potato damn thing.   The yeah. They did something with the potatoes.   Right?  

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Did you have the shredded one?  

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They did.   Hash browns? Hash browns. Hash browns. So I thought it was gonna get high. No.   It's not gonna get high.  

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Fuck. They're just they're hash browns.  

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Right.   So that's basically smashed potato and then fried or something like that. Right?  

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They're shredded.   Right. Yeah.  

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It it was it was unusual for me, and and,   I liked it.   The pancakes,   they are very fluffy,   but with syrup oh, fuck. Yeah. And I'm pouring coffee or keep on pouring it, dude. It's it's perfectly fine.   So,   eventually, we met up with Michael. Right?   Ben.   Ben. Sorry, Michael. Sorry, Ben.   We met up with Ben. He had a   a job introduction   or job   interview. Interview. That went okay. Yeah.   So then we were heading to the beach,   Santa Monica Beach. I mean, fuck. Santa Santa Cruz. Oh, always screw it up. I always screw it up. Santa Cruz Beach.   So we were driving, and you were parking   right there. Just like,   wow. Look at that sea down there doing fair things.  

And,   there are people playing in the sand,   and then I saw some houses. And then you were telling me about   the storm, like, few years ago that it took down these houses.   It it never came that much inland, but it did on that time.   And there was a rock   pointing out. You could see perfectly on a sea, but you stood on a rock, which was,   you freed me out a lot of times.   You took me out of the conference zone a lot of times.   That was one of the, oh, Rob, you can stand perfectly here.   Okay. And I   I mean, there's water   crashing.  

I mean,   it was beautiful.   We went to the beach. We we we,   we had a dog that that act like a German   because he was he was making this   sand pits like this big holes like Jews doing The Netherlands   when he's on a holiday   on a beach.   But, we had a great time. Right?  

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Right.   So that beach was actually kind of important to me.   Remember?  

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Right? Yes. I do remember. Yes. Very important.  

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That's where Michael comes in.   Right. So that beach   is,   was a   favorite place for my son to visit all the he always went to Sunny Cove. And Sunny Cove was always about Sunny Cove.   So, I don't know if we cover this in the first part, but I still   my son   okay. So my son died five years ago   and   or eight years ago.   And he,   he loves Sunny Cove, so I took his ashes,   and   I don't think it's I I don't know if it's legal or not, but I spread his ashes. I tossed them out over there at Sunny Cove. So I go back to Sunny Cove all the time to see my son.   Not really, but just as a memento.  

And   we're here on this cliff,   and I'm like, oh, you have to come over here. And you're like, no. I'm good here. Like, no. Come over here. See? It's fine.   But you followed.   But I took you down on the little thing, and I know I took not you you did not go to the edge. And the waves were all crashing up in between and coming up going   now.  

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No.   No.   No.  

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No.   Like No. We're gonna but then we wanted to go over to that beach over there. I'm like, oh, let's just walk along here.   No.  

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No.   No.   Dude, I mean, people get missing from from just being that curious.   I know for sure. Or or or stupid. Like, oh, there's a beach shore. We can walk on it, and then also one wave, and it's just, like, ending alive.   Fuck.   I mean,   I love the sea, but it's like, wow. It's it's a real   force.  

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It's it's a it's a breathing organism. Oh, it's a  

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alright. Well, my mind is a little bit fucked. Okay. So we're days of fast. So okay. So we went to the to the other beach, and that's where,  

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Aaron's dog started digging all the holes.   And remember what happened?  

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Yeah. What the burglar?  

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Yeah. The burglar.   Someone had broken into this house. It was right on the beach.   And there were cops there. There were smashed windows.  

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We were doing raw pay. Oh, yeah. I already had raw pay. My raw pay went up,   and nobody had raw pay.   So I just briefly asked Aaron like, oh, she's a hippie girl. Like, you know, someone who has Rob Pay? Oh, sure. I got some. What?   What do you got? You got some for me? You guys a Rob Pay?   We talked about some other stuff that we can't talk about a podcast because otherwise, you're gonna probably investigate us or whatever. But that was really fucking fun, and it was really because   when we were doing that stuff and we smoked some on the beach, the cops came and just like I was looking at the cops like, oh, fuck. There there you go.   There you go. LA, Santa Monica. No problems, but they they they figured it out. Here, the Dutch guy is right here. Right? But then he went to his house, and we're looking and stuff like that. And, then you saw the the the big windows that were crashed in.  

And, so oh, so they don't come for us, so it's fine.   So we said goodbye to Aaron and to Ben,   and then we were heading to was that already to Napa? No. That was to Danielle.  

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No.   You remember we went over to the lighthouse. We were hungry again, and I'm like, oh, I got this perfect place. We went to the lighthouse, the beach on the other side,   and he got that really fancy food. Right? We got the food, and you got stickers.  

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Oh,   and they complimented us like, oh, you're a beautiful couple. Like,   are we?   Yeah. People should be more authentic about the everything and stuff like that. Like,   okay.   Okay.   But then so   on the audience,   you have this little tiny   bar,   restaurant. Like, really, really   tiny.   Basically, you it's two meters. Probably two meters by by maybe six. That that's the whole restaurant.   Great food.   Great people.   A lovely smile with the with the with the serving your dinner and stuff like that. But when you turn around,   you see Santa Monica Beach.   Oh, Santa Cruz   Beach,   and you see the the,   the statue   of the   the   statue   of  

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the It's it's the famous surfer statue.  

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Famous surfer statue.  

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Right? It's   it's there,   and there was the lighthouse.  

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Right.   So I wanna go back to what   we saw between all the rocks,   between all the the the trees. Enola   perfectly lined   up. And all of a sudden, my eye goes to this guy.   He must be   way in his sixties.   He's he only has a a little charge on, and he's walking with the surf thing. Right? With the surf   board Surf board. Surf board.   Yeah. You gotta picture this if you are on Santa Cruz Beach or at the pier or whatever the at the lighthouse.   People walk around in these in these,   what's it called? Like, these wet suits. Right? So you hear   everywhere. You see people that are more than 50 years old with a big smile because they're gonna jump in the wheel in the waves. We're gonna talk about that later. Fucking idiots. But okay.  

So I see this guy. I took some pictures of Vinoda, which was beautiful.   We went to the statue,   and you see all these names from people who did not make it.   Right? So it's also a statue   about people that they lost their lives in the waves because it's a very, very dangerous place to serve. But   nobody gives a shit because we were smoking some. We're now looking at a rock. So you gotta picture this. You're standing in front of,   of a railing. You look over the sea. You see all these people   in the sea, in the ocean waiting for the for the waves to come to surf.   But   then you ask yourself,   how do they gonna get into that?  



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So you just see standing hold on. So we were standing there looking at the art along the road, like, along the railing, the people with the art, and, like, the people flying kite. And we're like, woo hoo. And I'm like, wow. This is Jake's the best ever.   And then you   get all freaked out. Donna, they're going to jump.   Now what?   What what's he talking about? They're going to jump.   I didn't Oh,   Rob, come come come. Let's go see. Let's go watch. You're like, no.   Save them.  

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I thought they were they were   so   you have   a   a what's it called? A point rig? So you have the the the the the lighthouse,   and you got a   a rock, a a long rock. So I saw people walking with a big smile   with a wet suits. Happy, happy, happy. Where the circle like, where the fuck are they going?   I mean, the rock is high above the sea.   It's quite fucking high. I'm I'm afraid of heights, but, you know,   so then you you see them walking on the rock, and then all of a sudden they disappear.   And then all of a sudden you see them,   and the   the picture that you have,   they're hovering   above that rock.  

The fierce sea is is is smashing it with the waves and stuff like that, and then they wait for the perfect whatever timing, and they jump.   They just jump.   Like,   wow.   There were some people when we were eating the snacks, the the the the the sandwiches,   you took me down   to where there's normal water, but you could sit there when there's not a not a high tide or whatever. So some people that were not that, like, I got steel balls   were   getting into the water there, which is also very, very   dangerous because   the waves can smack you against the rocks. That's how the most people die, not by drowning. A lot of people die by drowning, but   a lot of people die by smacking them against   the rocks.  

So that was like, wow.   And then the lighthouse,   it was a pretty lighthouse. Right?   We had so much fun. I was stoned as a motherfucker.   What was that? Some dragons.   What?  

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Right. The dragons.   Yeah. So we had the dragon   kite   with the,   purple and amethyst,   tails.  

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Right.  

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And we talked about how   the purple is the healing,   frequency,   the healing color.   We talked about,   oh, some other things. We went and saw the lighthouse,   but we couldn't go inside.   And then we walked over to the other side   of the lighthouse,   and it just   you were like, it just keeps going. It continues   on. It's   so beautiful.  

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It it was   yes. It was wow   all the time.   All the time. So when that was, like,   noon. Right?  

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Yeah. It was   it yeah. It was later in the day. It was around 03:00   or so when we decided to leave.  

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And we get nowhere to hatch   you because I didn't have a plan.  

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You didn't have a plan. Did not have a plan.   And then   I decided we're going to leave,   and we had to go north.   You did not know   where to get a hotel. We're like, how far? We don't know.   And then I remembered I have a friend   in San Luis. So   I, like, called up Danielle. I'm like, hey.   I have not talked to her. I only talk to her, like,   maybe once or twice a year.   And I called her up and go, hey. I'm in Santa Cruz.   I got this friend with me. You got room in your house for us? You're like, yeah. Come on up.   So we drove to San Leandro   to see Danielle.  

But on the way,   this is when they start remembering   that   our spirit guides are with us. Our angels are always with us.   And   I tend to, like,   not really pay attention a whole lot,   and   I know my angels are here. I know I'm well protected, and I'm just driving. I'm just living. I'm just taking a stranger in my van. Like, I don't know. Let's just do this.   So I hear, like   okay. So, honestly, I don't wear my seat belt all the time.   The seat belts in my van are very hard to get to.   And I said to him,   so I heard seat belt, and I'm like, okay. Yeah. Whatever that means. Then I heard seat belt. I'm like, oh, no. My seat belt. I don't know. And then I heard a screaming.   Oh, I'm like, oh.  

Oh,   so, hey, Rob. We're just gonna pull over for a second. We're gonna go ahead and put our seat belts on   because I'm gonna go ahead and listen.   So I listened. We put our seat belts on. I I have to move my fridge right here. We got our seat belts on. It's like, okay. Now let's go. And we're heading up the I 17.   Now the I 17 is a highway I have traveled many times,   and Santa Cruz is   my kids' favorite place to go.   I love going to Santa Cruz for all kinds of things.   And so I go over this I 17 all the time. It's always traffic,   but whatever.  

And neither one of us really like the people part, so there's that. So here we're going across the 17.   I'm like, okay. We're just gonna do this.   And we got the seat belts on, and we're driving   maybe   ten minute.   And I come around the corner, and there's all this stuff, all the debris in the road. There's a bottle. There's like a blast bottle in the highway. I'm like, that's freaking weird. Then we came around the corner and went, oh,   a car   had come around, slammed into the mountainside,   and took the railing and hit the railing.   So it hit the railing head on.  

And there was the there was the accident car. There was two cars behind him and another   car too in front of us. And I pulled over, and I'm like, oh,   what what what what what what do we do?   And this man gets out of the van.   He gets   he gets out of the van   and goes   to the wrecked car.   This man with no plan from another country   gets out of the van to go help this other car.   Meanwhile,   I'm sitting here in the van going,   wrong a response.   Like, wow.   Wow. I I couldn't even breathe it. I could not   believe what was happening.   Okay. So a little backstory.  

My son, he died in a car accident,   and   I just sat there,   like, what are you doing?   There's, like, blood,   guts,   death,   horror.   Like, oh,   no. What's he doing? And I just sat there for a while and, like, please, just come back.   Come back. I think we should just go.   So I decided to call 911,   completely   not a good 911 call. I did not do well at all. I just and while I was sitting there on this police call,   a car behind me hits me. My whole   like, oh,   I just got hit.   Remember my car got hit? Yeah. Yeah. There was a What? Yeah.   So then   I'm sitting there. I'm telling her on the phone to stop, but she wanted the information   about, oh, the the street number, whatever mile marker number it is so they know where the accident's at.  

And she's like, you know, the the they're on their way, but I don't so I did not know what to tell her.   So then she gets off the phone. I see two other people on their phone. So I'm off, and I'm sitting there. I'm like,   I don't know. And there's cars going by me. There's cars going around the accident. I'm like, oh, this is not good.   And then I walked over, and I saw your feet sticking out of the back of the car.   It's like, oh, oh, there he is. The and I'm you know, I assessed the situation. There wasn't any blood. Like, okay. So I got a little closer.   And you get out of this car, and you said he's okay. I was holding his neck,   blah blah blah. Let you tell that part. And I'm like, can we go?  

Like,   oh, let's go.   I'm ready. I'm done. Done with the trauma.   And you're like, oh, wait. There's cars.   Like, let me help this traffic.   I'm like,   get get in the get in the car. And you're like, we gotta move your van because the the,   the ambulance was on their way. We heard the sirens. Like, oh, just a minute until the sirens get here. I'm like, we can go.   And you're like, you need to move your van. You need to move Enola over there. And I'm like, get in. You're like, no. But I got this traffic.   Are you kidding me?   I'm having,   like, the worst panic attack. I'm going through all this trauma stuff that you don't even really you didn't know. And I'm like, just go.  

Wow. Wow.   I I'm like,   I did really good. Like, you didn't know I was losing my shit at all. No. I did not did not know. No.  

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The only thing I knew is when you said, like, buckle up,   I always drive with people in the sense that   I'm also have the eyes on the road.   And, also, because I'm driving a motorcycle, I'm looking very far away.   And when you were just like, oh, it's on the road, like, looking like this.   I said, stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Because there was this car crashed.   And I jumped out. I don't know why, but I wanted just to help a fellow. I don't know how critical his situation was.   I was probably holding his head to stabilize him because we didn't know   anything about his,   medical condition or whatever,   injuries   for about I think it was about twenty minutes   for sure. It was twenty minutes.  

So I asked him the questions, where you come from? Are you okay? Can you move your feet? Can you you know, are you are you capable to survive this shit?   Be be so and then,   the other people so there was this did this guy who ran and gets your car and another guy. Probably, he was a paramedic in in in in, and,   well, he was some kind of paramedic.   He,   he didn't ask any questions, so I started to ask questions.   And then after a while,   I figured out, like, that the traffic is jamming a lot because it's a it was on a on a almost like rush hour.   And then,   just before,   I think, like, oh my god. We need to get the traffic going because when the services come in,   the ambulance and stuff like that. Right?  

The ambulance and stuff like that, we we have to,   keep the road clear   for   service.   So that's what I did too. Oh, and there it is. That that There's there's a picture of the accident.  

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Wow. Like, wow.   Wow.   I had to go get the the street number off that sign over there.  

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Right.   So   in my, so when I was starting to get the traffic going, a lot of people were, of course, very happy because, normally, I think nobody does that. Like, everybody's like, we gotta wait for the starfish to come in because we can't do anything.   I I I'm too late for my burger. I'm too late for the drive it. I don't know. But stupid shit. So I was   I think it was, like,   not   over exaggerating   hundreds   of cars   passing by on a very easy level. I didn't add any flickering lights or or but they just saw this dude. Like, oh, he's probably from The Netherlands from another continent. We gotta pay attention to this one. He's gonna kick her ass when we're not gonna do anything. So   the good thing was because I I leaded to traffic towards the accident,   the ambulance, the fire department, the whole fucking Benban   could go through. But then I knew also, like, now they're gonna close the fucking road.  

So I told   in that brief moment to Donna,   move your car   up there. So   besides the,   the the thing.   And she said, just jump in. I said, no. I gotta tell to the officer or whatever on duty   what happened, who this guy is in the car, and then I'm gonna jump in.   So then there was a very, very   crazy moment.   I talked to the officer. I said I I don't I I can't recall his name, but, you know, I know he he's he's come from Santa Cruz.   He has two brothers. His name is whatever the fuck. It's it's,   he is 38 years old, blah blah blah. He's not injured that bad, but he's he's slammed in his car. And he had a Toyota. I think it was Toyota, and it was packed with the the,   the airbags.  

So but he said, thank you, buddy. So I ran to the car from a note to to the van. I jumped in, and Donna sits there with these eyes like, here we go now. Yeah. We can go. So I was completely fucking calm. I just saved maybe somebody's life or just   was there for a human being. And she was looking at me like,   did you just jump out of the car? Yeah. I thought, yeah, we did. Right?   Wow.   Should we smoke some?   Fuck. Yeah.   I think we smoked some while we're driving, and then we noticed   there was no traffic   because all the cars that passed by that I said, come on. Go. Go. Go. They went through the burgers, through their homes, to whatever the fuck.   And it took about five to ten minutes   before the,   we went from   no traffic and they jammed the whole fucking freeway or highway,   and we could get along. And you said, this is on   we we were driving for more than 10 miles, maybe 20 miles with no traffic   on the E 17. What was that?  



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So that's the Highway 17 that goes from San Jose to Santa Cruz.   It's the only   connecting highway that connects those two places.   So if everybody is on that highway all the time,   and to be on   to be on this highway with no people, I was like, wow. This is once in a lifetime, man. We're doing this. Like, you don't know this, but this is, like, once in a millions chance   of being on this highway with no people.   It was fantastic.  

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And the road's really curvy and woo hoo. Oh, there are a lot of accidents there. But the funny thing is   when I arrived in America,   especially in New York, I thought like, oh, man. I'm going to,   my energy is gonna be drained down with all the people and stuff like that. I never saw anyone   except Gene,   Manny, and Gene's son   until I left to new new New Jersey,   Newark Airport to fly to fly to Dallas.   So   we were talking about it in a car. Like, I   I mean, I'm a very social misentrope, so I I I don't like people at all. Not saying I'm hating them, but I don't like them at all. But I'm I   could be social.  

And every single time   when things appear, especially when we were together, it was like,   wow.   Wow. So you said when we were   seeing this   completely   no cars on the highway,   we're going to a friend of mine, and,   she's great.   I know what the place is where she lives, but,   you're probably gonna get some food before we're there. So you're you're calling her. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You can pick whatever you want. There's good stuff, and then on that.  

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So So you parked When we went when we   went to get the food,   there was no people. We parked right in front, and there was no people at the restaurant.   Right. That was amazing.  

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So another amazing thing comes up. So we ordered food, and this guy, he was quite young,   the the waiter and the the the the the one you ordered the food with,   he said, what would you like to drink? And I said, I can use a fucking beer, dude.   If you listen to our story from today, I need a fucking beer. So I I saw a Belgian beer that I really like. I said, I like to have that Belgian beer.   And, so he tapped the beer,   but then it was   empty. So the the tank was empty. So he he it was not a a full beer. It was, like, three quarters.   But I said, hey, dude. It's it's it's fine. It's fine.  

You just have to listen to our story. But he didn't even listen to our story. He said,   oh, it's fine. You can get us for free.   And, dude, that was so wow. Again, we were we were just, like, two hippies. Like,   wow.   Wow.   It seems we're coming from outer space   and just encountered the world like, wow.   They got trees.   Wow.   They got mountains.   Wow. They got big trucks for little girls.   Wow. It was   so fucking cool. And the food was,   again,   amazing.   So we went to Danielle, your girlfriend,   and she participated in Burning Man also several times.   And   when we were getting in, she was a little bit nervous. I can agree with that because there's a guy coming in.  

You don't see each other that much, but you ask like, oh, can we come over today with a friend for me from another continent? He's a guy from The   Netherlands. That'd be fine.   Did you lose your mind? No. No. No. Does he have a gun? Does he kidnap you? No. No. Apparently   legal to do this.   When we came home   at Danielle's place,   that was so fucking amazing.   She is doing art.   He was unfortunately not home. He is doing,   music, but she decorates   her house   so   unbelievable   unbelievable   nice. Like,   wow.   That's  

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you got a picture. You want to see the picture? I got a picture.   This is a picture of her house.  

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Yep.   Yep.   Charles.  

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And she's in San Leandro.   And she oh, remember she has a cute little dog?  

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Yeah.   Yeah.   I think I got one above   the  

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Go ahead. My my favorite part is when   she hands you a guitar.  

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Oh, wow.   Yeah.   Yeah.  

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And, like, and you're just like, oh, a guitar, and you just   play. It's not like a question answer session with what song is it tune.   Give me a minute. Gotta do this. No. You just grab the guitar and you just like   like, oh, you just play. You just play the guitar.   Just make it make sounds.  

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Great.  

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And she made us that delicious coffee with her little coffee table thing? Oh,  

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yes.   Oh, she knew. She knew how to make coffee.   And, oh, oh, the and the funny part was like, oh, so we got multiple,   bathrooms. So, Donna, you sleep here.   I sleep there.   Rob, you can think between these two.   Oh, okay.   Oh, oh, okay. That's perfectly fine.   Bye.   Bye. Good night.  

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Good night.  

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Good night.  

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So now you're sleeping in a strange house,   a strange bedroom.  

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But but wow.   Oh, and she had that joint?   The strawberry, whatever.   I don't know. So she had this little charms. Right? It's like, okay.   If you wanna smoke, hear some.   Oh, that's almost done, I think.   Oh, you you you caught it up. Oh,   perfectly fine. I light it up. I smoked.   Wow.   Then in the morning,   when after she made coffee, she like, you like to have some edibles?   Fuck yeah.   These are alright. That was before we went to bed. Right? Because, you gotta be careful. These are strong. That was when we went to bed.  

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Oh, right. So those were her sleeping edibles.  

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Yo. I don't need anything to sleep. Then I'm gonna sleep. I'm gonna gonna save my body. I'm I'm going to sleep, so I'm gonna sleep.   I didn't feel anything from the edibles, but the joint definitely, I felt some   something.   Let me see if I have some pictures   of her house. Oh, this was LA.   Okay.   Santa Monica.   Okay.   Now it's starting to rain.   It's okay. It's perfect.  

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Singing her there on the  

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sixteenth.   Right.   Oh, maybe you can see here. Oh, he is a dragon.   I I don't know if you can see that.   I don't know where   looking. So here's the dragon,   Santa Cruz.   Oh, shit.   Yeah. Oh my god. Now I'm screwing it up.   So oh, oh, just to give you a picture,   this is the picture of the people standing on a rock to jump in.   Like, is this   this is fucking   what the? Oh, I I surf. No. No. You just jumped for death.   Wow. Wow.   So oh, here it is. I got her in her bathtub.  

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Oh, yes. That was outside.  

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That was outside.   Right? We had some we had some great time.   And then the the decorations,   there was outside with the decorations of the bells and all that stuff.   But   I swear to god, she knows. So oh, I didn't have any oh, I put it on the other phone. Just to give an example how beautiful   decorated this stuff is,   I have to.   It all fits together. Just like, wow.   And I was looking at her   sketchbook like,   dude,   did you make that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. I wanna go to bed and do some some sketch  

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and   stuff like that. Amazing.  

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She's an artist for sure.   Okay.  

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She's a music teacher   also. She and she   she plays a lot of instruments. You guys talked about   a composer.   I don't remember which one.   Not Kalinski.   Chomsky?   What's the name?   You're talking about a famous composer, and   the man who studied him was her teacher.  

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Right.   I can't recall the name.   There's so many stories in my head popping up right now.   Oh, I had to figure it out.   So it was not Walker.   It it was a it was   a a piano player.   Mhmm. And she knows a lot about music. So,   for the ones that do not like my guitar playing, she not said stop it. So that's a good thing.   Oh, sorry my ego.   Ego is busting in just like that. Having a few blueberries,   then, like, ego is coming right across the corner. Oh, let me say something about   whatever the fuck.   So   went to the Thai restaurant. We got a free beer.   We slept at Danielle's. We had a great time, great coffee,   and then we were heading to   San Francisco.  

Well, we're going across.   We came   we passed by   San Francisco to go to Napa.  

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Okay. So San Leandro's over here,   and then there's the bay,   and San Francisco's   over there.   So we went to the Albany Park,   and we got out at the Albany Park,   and there were no people.   Right. There's no people. People   walking walking their dogs, riding bikes.   There were no people.   It was not raining. It was a little windy,   but we were there, and   it was   my favorite thing to do was take pictures of you   taking pictures of flowers.  

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You are, dude. I'm I'm  

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I could not believe that you were taking pictures of flowers. This man is taking pictures   as much as I'm taking pictures.   This is awesome. What's he's taking a picture of? Oh, I might take a picture. Oh, what's he oh, I'm gonna take a picture.   And there's there's the San Francisco San Francisco.  

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Right?  

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On the other side of the bay.   Wow.   Wow. It was so remember all the art we saw there?  

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Yes. I'm just seeing the pictures. Like things. I got a picture of you walking there between the yard   right here.  

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Aw.  

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Yeah.   And Oh,  

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and do you remember this part?  

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Oh, the the the,   the swing?  

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The swing. The little circle swing?  

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Yep.   It was France  

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was San Francisco in the background?  

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Right.   And then the tree,   was that on the same tree?  

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Yes.  

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No. That was the tree around the corner.   Right.   So beautiful place. And, again, no people.  

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I mean Two people.   Only two people are smiling and laughing the whole time.  

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Yes. Did it?   Been the best time of our lives. Yes? Best time.   And figure it out, like,   dude,   how?   Why?   How come? I mean,   that was really, really crazy. So  

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Do you remember the bench   that we saw that said tomorrow needs you?  

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I think I got a picture of that.   Mhmm. The bench   wasn't this one?   Oh, yes. I remember.   I remember.  

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And there was know.   There was a lot of,   RIP   names and,   plaques and   like, you you knew   sadness was there   and   also the uplifting   part of   tomorrow needs you.  

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Right.  

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Just   don't worry about it. Tomorrow needs you.  

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So   that brings us also to the healing   purpose of this journey.   Maybe I could say it like I   encountered it like two broken souls,   healing each other and   lifting other people up without knowing it.   And I think   that the trip   was some kind of   the universe telling me what my purpose is. I knew my purpose, but   it was more   like   there it is,   right there.   Because use the things that is trauma   indoctrination,   and you figure it out how life is really is.   Use that as power   to enlighten and empower others.   I think that's that's one of the biggest lessons that I learned.   And,   especially when we were,   going on this,   beautiful trip   that the perception   and the perspective   of money,   that was a big thing that we both had to deal with. And we let that loose. We we just were like, okay.  

Fuck it. Right? You're thirsty, then just gonna   do it. Right?   Right?   Still   figuring out some things, but that's okay.   So   we went to a crazy, beautiful   landscape   of   vast plains of nothingness   and some agriculture   and stuff like that. And and,   especially,   we coming   closer to Napa. There's a lot of grapefruit   because, of course, with grapes, you make wine.   Napa is very, very known   about their wine.   So   you   said, what should we do with you? Because I can't end up at my dad's house   with a guy from another continent.   Like, hey, dad. I just met this guy, like, three days ago. Well, five days ago. Happy birthday.   Happy birthday.  

Right. Right. It was perfect time to to give you that probably heart attack, but,   I said   there will be something on the way   That's perfectly fine. And  

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And I say the most   the most interesting part was that we we have no plan,   and we're leaving. We're at the Albany,   the Albany Bowl. We do all the things. We get back in the car, and we're driving,   and you start looking on your phone for a place. And you, oh, I found one. Hang on. How do you find one? You're like, oh, it's only, like, $60. It was something ridiculous.   Not it was not the scams.   It's a scam.   It's Napa. Like, how you didn't   Napa, California?  

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And you're like, yeah. You asked I don't know. Nice. You asked me twice. Is this the real place? Yeah.   So I told you the address, and you said, no   fucking way.   It was one block away   from your dad's place.  

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It was a half a mile.  

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Half a mile.  

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Half a mile. It was, like, totally, like,   your your room was here. My dad's was here. It's, like, so close.   And I was worried. I was, like, I could've left you at Danielle's. That would've been fine. But then I'd have to come back through San Leandro. We've missed San Francisco.   I kinda wanted you to see San Francisco.   So   me and Danielle talked about it. Like, I don't know where to tell this guy to get a room at. Like, I don't know how this is gonna work out.   I'm gonna drop him off somewhere. Like, I don't know. This side, that side. We don't know. And for you to come back and say a half a mile from my dad's house   because in order to get from San Leandro   to my dad's house and then to San Francisco,   there's a big ocean or bay in between it. So we can go around it, but I wanted to go this way and not back to San Leandro. Right? So for you to get a room right there   on the way,   for how much? Like, $50, 60 bucks? Oh, yeah. It was, like, $55.  



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So   you dropped me off. I said, this is the house. So I was reading now the instructions because of the guy in BlackRock that that woke up and just said, oh, you gotta read the instructions about where the entrance   is. So I read the instructions like, oh, there's a there's a key path and stuff like that.   So you drove away. I said, I'm fine, I think.   And   there's a big limousine   right on front of the of the of the driveway. Like, wow.   I answered the house, and this guy from the house came, like, oh, are you Rob? Said, yeah. Are you I think he was Ben too.   So, yeah. I said, wow. This is a beautiful place.  

His father was sitting there in the in the in the living room. There was a guitar   hanging   on the wall.   Thank you, universe.   So   and some art and stuff like that. So he said, I'm gonna show you the room.   So I said, before you're gonna show me your room,   what about a limousine?   He said, well, me and my brother, we do some stuff, so we also have a limousine rental.   I said, what's the other stuff that you're doing? Oh, we have our own brands.   I said, what do you mean? We have our own   ale and beer brand.   So   it's called the two brothers, if I'm not   wrong.  

Let me see if I can pull it up. I think did I made that? I think I did.   So it's him and his brother. No. I didn't. The other one is from, it's probably on the other phone.   Anyways,   I think it's called the two brothers.   So you said, you wanna try some? So I said, yeah.   Normally, I'm not into   oh, fuck. My battery almost died already?   Fucking hell.   I gotta   store my car. Sorry for the noise. I hope it's gonna   get the juice. So we're almost two hours in now.   No. Are we   are we one hour?   No. Right? One, two hours? No. Fuck it. So   when I was doing the thing   right.  

When I was doing the thing in,   in Napa,   I asked the guy, like, so what he makes so he made this beer and stuff like that. So he gave me, like, cider or something like that, which was really good.   We talked a little bit briefly.   Then I said, like, okay.   Can I go into town? Is it is there something to eat? Oh, sure.   You only have to walk   this way,   and then you come to the center of Napa.   Now for people that do not know Napa, as I told you, it's it's wine. A lot of wine.   When you encounter wine, it's not cheap. It's a expensive city because people are making a lot of money with wine, and wine is not cheap.  

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So I was Napa is a place Napa is a place for a lot of tourists go. Napa Valley. Napa Napa Napa.  

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Right.  

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It's a very tourist place.  

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I was, checking some local,   restaurants, which were from the outside already. Like, okay. It's too expensive. Well, not too expensive, but I don't want to put my money   just for a single dinner for that. So I ended up in the jam seller.   That was a beautiful place, and they have normally live music, but not on that day. So I was sitting at a bar   talking to the guys. You know, we got into conversation,   and,   he said, can I give you something to drink? I said, well, I'm on a go. I wanna check out for restaurant. He said, no. It's all fire up. You can get I can give you one on a house.   Beautiful. So I drank a nice   red wine. It was really good. And he said, maybe tomorrow, there's much more to do because it's gonna be Saint Patrick's Day. Right?  

But we were, of course,   getting away from Saint Patrick's Day.   Anyways,   it was,   a great wine, a great place.   And then I entered into the gardens, which is the first   local thing that I encountered, which was fucking great because you enter   a room and above you are all the plants   in in in the air, in in in,   air, outside. So you're basically sitting in the garden.   They had crazy good food.   Unfortunately, they did not have the Irish   stove   that was sold out. So I had something else   with the Guinness   from their cap,   and,   I went very satisfied with the big smile on my face back home.  

By the way, the apartment at the Brothers   was fucking awesome.   I showed you pictures, and I showed you some some,   some videos.   So they just renovated the place.   Wow. High end.   Crazy stuff.   So that morning,   you pick me up,   and   you show me around a little bit in Napa where your dad lives.   And I think, oh, then I bought that beanie.   Right?   And then we   were then we were heading for the real San Francisco.   You said, we can go we can do that. I said, okay.   Nothing to be feared of. Right? No. No.  

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Okay. So we drove so we drove down the highway,   and   there were it was, like, back roads through the highway and   all the beautiful wine country in the rolling hills. And it was March, so everything is green and lush.   And we came to this place that I've never been,   and we drove up that hill.   And I'm like, I don't know. Maybe. I heard you could see the bridge, but I don't know.   I have never been to that side   of   of the   the ocean.   I got that picture.   Wait.   So this is the San Francisco   Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge.  

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Oh, yeah. Oh,   yes.   Now I remember.   Mhmm.   Mhmm.   So just before we went on that spot, we saw the coyote.   Mhmm. We're standing there right there.   We're taking some pictures, and you were saying, oh, we can get up there.  

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There was this little picture.   Oh, you can't really tell it's a coyote. There was two of them,   and you were making jokes about how the coyote's gonna eat us.   There's a Golden Gate Bridge.  

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Right? Wow.  

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Yeah.   I have never seen the Golden Gate Bridge from that side.   I understand   how absolutely beautiful it is now.   Like, I've only ever seen it from San Francisco,   and I've only seen it, like, driving across.   I've never, like, stepped back and seeing the Golden Gate with San Francisco in the background   went, wow. I would not have been able to do this had I not taken you on this road trip.  

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And   I saw things that I told you, like,   this looks very familiar   because I was doing back in the days a game called watchdogs,   and one of the watchdogs episodes is in San Francisco. They build basically   San Francisco,   like, a few inches.   It's completely the same. It's copy paste San Francisco. So that was like,   wow.   Wow.   But then   you start   to do the thing with your car, with your van.   And I was looking up   like,   wow. If there's a little mud flood or a little whatever,   it's going to take everything down, and it's gonna be really, really down. So the Golden Gate Bridge is very high, and we were, well, four times higher than the than than the the the the bridge.   And then you were just looking at, like, oh, wow, Rob. Look at that. And then I hear, like, boom.  

And I was looking down in a in a in a in a fucking cliff, and the only thing that separated me from death   was a little real. And you said, nothing happens.   Just a little scratch.   I said, would you please look on the roads?   Oh, yeah. Sure.   Oh, I I crapped my pants. Oh my, like, and every time when you did that afterwards on the trip when you were just, like, so exciting to talk about Donna Yeah. Watch the road.   Okay. Okay.   Wow. But then   we had to pause   to enter San Francisco.   That's something that   if you have a normal car,   it's   very   challenging.  

If you have a van   that's a different story.   So you said like, oh, I know this very famous street, Bernardo   Street, whatever.   I knew it from the game. I said, yeah. Sure.   So you got a picture that   I think is more 25,   30 percent some roads.   So   Inona doing her best job as she could, she was pulling up   pulling us up   to   right there. Not there. It's not not there. No. It's like there is the fucking end of the road.   And then they invented, like, oh, maybe it's perfectly fine,   Bubba,   to have a stoplight   here.   Not there where you go, like, on the crossing. No. No. When you have you have to stop   35%   of of of of village, whatever the fuck that is,   stopping   and just hoping that your   car or your vehicle is not gonna back off. And   I shit in my pants a lot of times.  



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You're saying, like, how would they make amount of sitting right in a mountain?   Right. And then we go up the mountain.   And remember the the the whole dash? We were at Gary And   Gary Hyde And Gary Street,   which was the street in your game.   And the Lombard Street, where I was looking for the Lombard Street,   then, oh, we gotta get Lombard Street.   Like, oh, we have to do that.   And all the stuff on the dash, and I'm like, I can't even see the road.  

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But it was   so crazy. I never, even in Switzerland, not had a road, like, that steep.   Like   so we took Lombard Street. Just just   look it up in the Internet. It's very narrow.   Donna   was managing it   perfectly   with a van.   I mean,   I   I I think was that the time that I said you're a great driver? No. That was the first time. Right?  

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You you already told me I was a great driver,   and then I did some things and, like, no. No. No. I'm not. I'm not a good driver.  

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No.   That's how I probably asked you, like, can I   can I drive?  

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That was before. You still thought I was a good driver then. Here's Lombard Street that we came down in Enola.  

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Right.  

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See how it goes it goes it goes back and forth like this?   And Rob was   that person stopped their car   right in the road.   That should be illegal. And I'm like, no. That's in the driveway.   Oh, they cannot stop in the road. They put a square away. See? And we come around another square. There's another driveway.  

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Crazy.   Crazy.  

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And the,   and the,   the,   what's it called?   Yeah. The the taxi?  

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Yeah. The the the non person   driving taxi.   We were smoking a joint, so that's the thing.   And the crazy thing is it's a it's a British British   outro brand car brand.   It's a Jaguar,   and that's fully equipped with nothing else than software.   So you audio cap.   This little motherfucker comes in your driving way, and you gotta sit there and hold still.   Dude, I mean   and it's driving   itself.  

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Perfectly fine.   Perfectly fine. So this is the car,   and it had pulled up when we were standing there at the Lombard Street, and we're like, oh, that's another carless,   personless car. And we walked up to it. Like, it was easy,   and a woman got out.  

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Right. The woman was like  

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So the woman got out, and   we were like, that's there's no driver. And she's like, yeah. And, like, no big deal. And you were like, how does that work? And she's like, oh, it's perfectly fine. How is it safe? And she said,   I feel safer with this car driverless   car   than I do in a regular taxi or Uber.  

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Right.   Yeah. People are I don't know.   I don't know. I I don't know. If that's the future, I don't like it because I told you that the same game, Watch Dogs,   has a another game is called Legion, I think.   And that's about   London   Twenty Forty Five, something like that. And everything is electric.   Everything is you you don't own a car. You you just steal a electric car, basically.   You have drones flying, like,   news drones,   riot drones. So if there's a riot, these drones are gonna kill you. You got cargo drones to put the the things up in in the, on the buildings where they're working on. You can hack everything. That's crazy crazy beautiful stuff about the game, Watch Dogs.   But it was so futuristic,   but it was also so scary. So when you look from Lombard Street   across Alcatraz, because you could see Alcatraz in the middle of the ocean   perfectly. But you'd it's so steep. It's like   fucking hell, dude.  

How are we gonna survive this with the with the   that was   that was crazy beautiful adventure, but I sit in my pants a few times.   Then we came,   Fotsman Jackson   Street,   which I really like.   Folsom Street.   So   okay. So San Francisco was wow. It was really,   really   wow.   But now I lost   where were we? Oh, we were heading for   Santa Cruz again. Right?  

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Right. We're heading back to Santa Cruz.   Because we decided from San Francisco, we spent so much time driving around in San Francisco   that to get all the way back to LA, that night would have been, like, two in the morning.   Like, well, let's just stay another night in Santa Cruz.   And   something happened   right after we left,   San Francisco   Oh.   On the drive to Santa Cruz.   Oh. Oh, yeah. Because you were gonna get another hotel room. Yeah. But I couldn't. And So Couldn't.  

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You couldn't. I thought my my money was vaporized   or something or the WEF   does did did I didn't know.   So I figured out   they fucking blocked my credit   card. But the thing is, you're in America. You can't just   call because   there's a lot of this line nine hours difference.   So I couldn't   get a hotel room. So you said, like, okay. I can do that.   But I felt like, wow. It's not only like, okay. I'm driving now with Donna.   Yeah. It's fine that she's gonna book a hotel room.   But what about food? What about other stuff, other hotels? What about my journey here in America   with no financial   going through? I mean, that was like, okay.  

Okay.   Fuck them.   It's gonna be okay. So you booked your room. Yes.   What we're gonna do with dinner? Because they got only, like, $20 on me and stuff like that.   I figured something   out. You did your wizard magic,   and we're having this beautiful road trip,   and we then we we were   participating   on a pier.   And I said, you can go here. There's water   every   fucking where,   and it's wooden.   So a car passes us, was driving by the  

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So hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Okay.   So we have this whole money thing.   This kind of been a theme through this whole trip.   You know, it's like   the hotel in Sam in, Santa Cruz, they're, like, two two fifty, three hundred dollars.   Napa hotels,   two, three hundred dollars or more.   And   we're on the road. We're having to buy food and whatnot.   So we're always having this financial thing come up.   And   I told you   to not worry because money grows on trees.   My dad taught me, as a young age, that money just grows on trees. You just make more.   And   I've been running with that,   mindset for quite some time.  

And, yeah, you just make more. You just   as a transfer   of things.   But then what about you?   Sit there in my passenger seat as I'm driving, and you're on the phone. You're you're having a you're you're not you're not okay with this.   Right. Wow.   Wow. I was so impressed, like, how well you kept your your shit together. You have no access to making an airplane,   an Uber,   a hotel.   You have no access to take care of anything in your life, and you are at the at my mercy. Right?   I just   Right. I'm all you got, man.  

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Yeah.   Oh, wow.  

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So we had pulled over to do something, and I thought, I know how to do this. I saw Rob do this. I'm gonna, and I found one, like, on booking.com   or something. I think that's what he used. I've never used anything to get a hotel room. You just drive up and go, hey. I need a space.   But I don't   I don't need a space, so I've never had to do that.   And   I found   I found a hotel on the beach for, like, $90   at a hotel that I've always driven past   going, wow. I'd like to stay there,   but it's just awesome.  

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With good breakfast.  

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Oh, yes.   So we got the hotel. That's later. So we got the hotel. I got that figured out. You're still on the phone. We're driving over the Santa Cruz Mountain again,   and it's rainy. It's got clouds. Okay. So first of all, the weather forecast for our trip was not good.   Don't do it. Don't go. It's gonna be terrible weather. I'm like,   I have to. Don't have a choice. They can rob too.   And every time we got out of the car,   there was blue sky, some little cloudy, but no rain.  

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Revert. We got it one time.  

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No. We got to San Francisco, and the sky was beautiful.   We were, like, done there. We're leaving. We're driving. The sky is gray. It's a little rainy. There's rain. Blah blah blah.   We come over the the hill in Santa Cruz,   and I'm I know where I'm taking them.   I'm a I'm a take them to the war because we're hungry.   I want some clam chowder.   So we're going to the the Santa Cruz Pier.   I have not been there   for, like, five years,   four years, about four years.   And   when we were at the,   beach before and I was telling you about the   the ocean, how the ocean had flooded that   cove and took out that house.  

I was like, oh, yeah. And it took out these other things, and it was a really bad storm.   But I didn't really explain all of it. So here we are, come into Santa Cruz,   we get down to the pier,   and, like, oh, no. We're going that way. And you're like, we're no. No. I'm like, oh, yeah. And   we pulled up, and I you were on the phone, I think. You're trying to figure out something about your credit card. And I smacked you on the shoulder and went, what? And we both looked out the window.   Remember?   Rainbows.   The rainbow. It was a double rainbow   all the way across.  

It went from the boardwalk where there's, like, carnival rides and,   roller coasters and stuff in the fair sea.   The rainbow went from there all the way out into the ocean.   Right. And all the birds. Remember all of these birds? We had another bird experience.   Like, we got out of the car. Oh, I had a picture.  

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I had a picture. I have several.   I don't know if it's gonna be on this phone,   but I sure know that,  

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maybe It went it went from the ocean   or from the boardwalk here  

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Right.  

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Oh, wrong way.   Oh, wrong way. Oh, wrong way. Hold on. Let me find it. So here's a picture from us at Lombard Street.   Oh, yes.  

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Lombard. Well,   it is kicking in.   So okay. Oh, here's the   here's sandwich   and down train the rainbowch.   Woo  

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hoo. There's all the birds.  

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Right. I thought it was a the thing?   Here you can see that it was a complete rainbow. Can you see it?  

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Do you see it? It'd be hard to see on it might be hard to see on the,  

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Yeah. But do you see it? Because you got me in a bigger I think. Okay.  

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Right. Right. I don't know. Can you see mine? I don't know which direction the zoom actually Yeah. I see. I see it. So  

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we were having   dinner   on the pier with this sunset.  

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Oh my gosh. And that was the funniest thing. We get out of the car. We're standing there. We're looking at the the   the rainbow.   We're like, oh, wow. The rainbow. We're laughing.   We're like, yeah.   And then we're standing by Enola,   and the ground moves.   And you go,   Jonah, the ghost ground.   Is moving.  

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It's below wood.   It can't turn out.  

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This is a pier. It's not pie.   It's a spine.  

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Yeah.   They smack, like, three years ago with the big storm that I told you, like, only that that the end of the pier was gone, but the restaurants are still fine.  

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We drove onto the pier, and we were going down the pier. So I wanted to see the end of it. You're like, but it's just going to fall off. Like, no. It's just fine.   Like, oh oh, wow. Not as much fell off into the ocean as I thought there would be.  

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Wow.  

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Okay. And then we're driving back down the pier and we're like, oh, pick one of these restaurants. We're going to eat at one of these.   One of these?   Yes. That's perfectly fine.  

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First thing I I asked the, the waiter was,   how many accidents happened here on the pier?   Is it safe here?   Yeah. Yeah. Nothing happened for twenty five years except   except with the big storm   back in the days. It it wide away   a a piece of the pier.   Oh, only a piece of the pier. Oh, no. They were fine.  

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Oh, no. We're not going to to Harley, to the girl.  

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She was cute too.   The waitress We  

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we we got there, and there was no waiting.   There was There was no people.   And they sat us in this little room area   right by the windows. There's no people in there. We're right by the windows. You weren't. I was right by the windows.   And we sat there, and you talked to the waiter.   And there was something interesting about the waiter too.   He was  

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Yeah. He's coming from   Slovakia or something like   that.   Croatia. Speak  

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did he speak Dutch or German or something?  

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German,  

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probably. Not Dutch. But there I remember you guys were talking,   and there was that connection. I was still trying to figure out the   something.  

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Right?   Oh, dinner was so good.  

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It was so good.   And then Harley was there, and she was,   taken from   Utah. Her mom sent her to Santa Cruz from Utah to live with her dad, and we were like, oh, yeah. Oh, boo hoo. I have to live in Santa Cruz.  

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Right. Right.   She's like, oh, wow. So you do surfing. Yeah. Yeah.   You do the wagering. Yeah. Yeah. She had a child also, but, you know, everything was fine.   But then they have to,   so Artie was   doing another shift or there was a shift thing,   shift change   Mhmm. With this guy. Well, we ate. We get to the hotel.   You are exhausted about a trip.   We went to bed.   And in the early morning, I was making another video about the credit card to update my   TikTok and Instagram audience and to just to spill my beans.   And,   I still know that I I wrapped around my skirt as I always normally walk in a skirt.   And,   we were heading to the the breakfast table because it was 10:00   already.  

And,   breakfast wasn't till 10:00, so it was perfectly fine.   So   we came or I came across an Indian guy,   and he said, wow.   In my country,   men also walk around in a skirt like that. I said, yes. Perfectly fitting here and so comfortable.   He said, that that, you know, looks really good. So thank you. So then I was looking at   the so called breakfast.   Well, you gotta break   fast. So, normally, it's waffles and pancakes. No. Not pancakes. Waffles. Waffles with sugar   and bad coffee.   But   I think they have some eggs and they had yogurt.   And when you're gonna trigger me with something, it's yogurt or ice cream. It's the go to.  

That's the thing.   Yogurt or ice cream. It's oh, I love   it. So bad, but I love it.   So we were having dinner,   and then   we were   what we were doing then? So we were driving to LA back then?  

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So we had the breakfast   at   the hotel,   and we looked like all the artwork they had in the lobby.   We were there for a little while. We left there   and drove and had that   experience   at the,   what do you call those things?   Like, the grocery store, but it wasn't a grocery store. Like, a Right. Yeah. Whole Foods? The Week it wasn't a Whole Foods. It was just some, like, little   neighborhood.  

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Yes. But   wow. The food was   amazing.   I mean, you took the bread the bread on in the front door just like, wow.  

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Coconut. I bought I bought three loaves of sourdough bread   from San Francisco from Santa Cruz. We got those bagel not bagels.   The the   baguette with the meat and the cheese and the lettuce in it,   that was   oh god.   Oh. Oh god.  

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Oh.   Oh,   I was astonished by the price,   but then you said,   I don't care.   You want it? I said, yeah. It looks so good. So we're sitting in the car.   You have, like, 180   of fucking whatever the fuck, like, nuts and and all the stuff, you know, and and the the the mate that you like and stuff like that.   So then I was thinking like, I I need a sandwich. I need to eat. I'm a big guy. I need to eat. I took   a bite from the sandwich,   and angels were coming to my toe.   Like,   always   fuck.   That was   so good. And I looked at you, and I said,   wow. This is so good.  

You said, yeah.   So a few minutes later, you took a fight, and you look at me, and you couldn't say anything.   Alright. Look.   Again,   nothing disappointed us with no planning.   Don't know what's coming up next around the quarter.   Just leave it be.   God has the biggest plan for you, but if you stick to your plan,   he can't   show you   his divine plan.   Swear to god.   So we were heading fully packed with a good,   good meal.   We were heading to Los Angeles.   So I think it was around   five or 06:00 when we're heading to Los Angeles. The traffic wasn't bad at all.  

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There was one other thing.   So we left Santa Cruz, and I was gonna take you down the coast, but then realized that there's a highway problem. So we couldn't go that way. So I still get kinda far, but then we had to go back inland.   But then I missed a turn.   I missed a turn.   So then I just kept following my little map. Oh, look. The map says turn left here.   But look. The map says turn left here, and this is the road we ended up on.  

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Oh,  

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it In the middle of between fields.  

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The girl   with the fan   but with the big truck and big cracked wheels   would not dare to drive that rope.   So I was telling her while I was filming,   is this road oh,   perfectly fine. Woah.   We were shaped up.   I mean   So that's what I'm saying.   Right.   He is not happy any of it. You have whipped cream in your breast for sure.   I I mean, that was a good thing that you did not feed any any baby with with milk because   you had whipped cream in your breast. You were bouncing up and down. I asked you, shall I make it? You out of that? I love that kind of shit.   Wow.  

But then, finally, we made it through.   Through all the potholes and all this stuff.   And,   we were finally on on oh, and   was that oh, so before we entered LA,   we went to the place, the last stop from James Dean.  

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Yes.  

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In the middle of the fucking in the middle of fucking nowhere,   there was the last stop that James Dean,   had with his Porsche before he crashed.   And this place is a memorial Memorial  

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Memorial.  

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What a memorial.  

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It it was full of memorabilia.  

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That's a big word. Memorabilia.  

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Right. Memorabilia. It had a wagon. It had a car.   It had the pictures.   It had all the nuts and   fruit that was dried and all the things.   Right. All the roadside   stuff.  

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I was reading coal.   So we gas stop, we filled up.   And,   when we were going back to LA,   we all   we came across   probably some of the crash sites, but we didn't know.   So but then we saw all the the,   the oil things, like,   hundreds of them.   The ROX,   rigs or what's it called?  

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So that's the drilling oil from the oil rigs.   We have to drill those oil rigs   that were pumping and working.   That was pretty We saw  

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vast   lands   of   hundreds and thousands of acres of strawberries.   Dude, like,   I mean, we have strawberries here, but the amount of strawberries you have in America,   holy fucking shit.   Even the cattle, we saw the cattle, which was not good at all to see. But that that was one we heading to Napa, I think.   Like, the camel standing there in his own shit,   it was not good. Not good at all. So   don't eat beef from that farm. That's not good beef at all,   but that's not a story.   So   just before we entered LA or probably you were in LA, you were dropping me up.   We were going to this market to get some food   because we wanted to have some food again. Right?  

So it took some of this and some of that and some of that.   And then I think you dropped me off in   LA.  

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Mhmm.  

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Right.   And then I told you, like, you can sleep over if you want.   So you   did. So so we told you sort of like, okay. Then we tomorrow morning,   take coffee and fuck off. Right?   No.  

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Right. Or was it The next morning, I was supposed to leave. I needed to leave to go back to,   Sedona.   Right.   And I had stayed over,   but then I had to leave to go   do something. I don't remember.   Yeah. I know I know what what we don't talk about that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I left clothes in your dryer, in your apartment thing. I left clothes in your apartment dryer.  

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Like, just let you figure out. Does this man can cook and do his own laundry?  

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So we said bye that morning,   and we were saying goodbye   crying.   We were crying   in the parking lot.  

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Like Like, in the middle of fucking LA.  

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Like, crying,   happy and laughing and   crying.   Like, how   how are we crying and laughing? It's so good, but, oh, shit. This is, like,   this is it. It's like over. It's done.   We just cried.   This is my last picture.  

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You took a picture of me?  

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I took a picture of you   standing in the slot on the corner as I was driving away.   But do you see do you see what's in the picture?   Savage.  

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Savage is still there.  

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Savage is still on my dad.  

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Yeah. So there's no story coming up.  

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So the next morning,   I had to go back to see   Rob because   I left things in the dryer.  

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Not on purpose.  

[01:46:42] Unknown:

Not on purpose. Definitely not on purpose. This was not the plan.   This is not the plan.  

[01:46:50] Unknown:

So I was doing my laundry, and I saw your stuff. So, like,   dude,   there are still some stuff in my dryer.   Mhmm. So you want me to take care of it or what's whatever.   Oh, I can   pick it up tomorrow.   So I was thinking, oh, another emotional fucking breakdown. Yeah. Perfect. Fine.  

[01:47:22] Unknown:

That was really good.   So when we   so we saw each other that next morning,   but to   say goodbye without crying,   and we did pretty well.   And, I I, gave you a card reading.   You got these cards.  

[01:47:42] Unknown:

Yes. You gave me a card reading, which was like,   holy   shit. I think the first one was new beginnings.  

[01:47:51] Unknown:

New beginnings.  

[01:47:53] Unknown:

The second one, I   can't recall,   but I think the third one   was wisdom.  

[01:48:02] Unknown:

Foundation and achievement   and then wisdom. Right.   So your new beginnings   was   at the door of zero   at the beginning   of nothing.   It's nothing. It's new beginnings. It's a zero.   You are standing on the Earth   with your staff in hand,   ready for   taking on whatever.   And you're doing so with foundation   and achievements   with the rainbow   and the number four,   which was significant for us.   And you were standing there,   like,   in family   with achievements,   foundation,   familiar,   you know, looking at the home and the   state behind you with the rainbow.   Wow. We just, like, did this   with wisdom,   and you're doing so with wisdom.  

And it was, like, the house and the family looking at the wizard   with his   book of   whatever the fuck and   the number   five.   The number five.   Wow.   I   I   I've done a lot of readings, and this one was like, here you go.   Wow.  

[01:49:44] Unknown:

Then you gave me a present.  

[01:49:47] Unknown:

And I gave you a present.   Dude, I was, like, crying, and I'm sitting here. We're talking about your adventure and your new beginnings, and you're a wizard, and the dragons, and all the things. And I looked at Savage and went,   he   Savage Savage needs to go with go with Rob.   Savage needs to go Savage, you need to go to The Netherlands.   So I took him and I handed to you, and you, like your eyes look just like Savage. They are, like,   all big and puppy dog and, like, oh,   you know, like, a little tear coming out.   I get to hang Savage with me.  

Oh, look at him.  

[01:50:32] Unknown:

It's my favorite companion.   He's been traveling to The UK lately   because I'm gonna bring him on all my big road trips,   and he is going to   look at these eye. I mean, this is   this is my fellow.   So   Donna basically   oh, fuck.   Donna basically upgraded me from being a little wizard.   Oh, maybe a big wizard.   To stop the whole fucking world. That's another story.   To a wizard with the dragon and with the unicorn.   So beware of the fox.   Wow.  

[01:51:14] Unknown:

The man with no. Plan.   Now travels with a unicorn dragon   to carry on his wizardly task   of bringing the world into light and love.   It was so beautiful.   And to see him in your pictures and TikToks,   to see Savage on your dash, just,   aw.   Yeah. I love it.  

[01:51:49] Unknown:

But it's,   people   don't realize   that stuff,   whatever stuff that is,   holds energy.   And what you create with it   will affect the energy around you.   So remember that we were in Sedona when we met Derek, the little bit of homeless guy in his car. Well, we're all fucking homeless in this world, but   not homeless at all. I'm so happy right now.   But he wants to give me   or touch   his,   amulet.   So I told him   I can't touch it   because all your emotions and all your energy is in that amyloid.   As soon as I touch it,   it will break   your fight, but   it will feed me the energy that you put it in.  

Very aware of that kind of stuff. So I'm So   with Savage,   it felt so good because it's real   magical   stuff happening   in my life   together with my stick with my stick from Peru that I brought from Peru. It's right here. Right   behind me. Oh, of course, I can't grab it right now because it's right behind me.   But, anyways,   the energy   from that whole trip   from these   completely   strangers coming together   in awe. Like,   what the fuck? I'm I'm not looking for anything like this. Oh, you want me to jump into your car?   Oh, fine. We never saw any   story or movies about people got killed or or   whatever the fuck of of a hippie then. We'll call it a hippie then. Or who is she that she let someone   I mean,   I'm big guy, tattooed.  

Some people could misjudge me by the way I look like.   But the the thing is   we saw each other. We connected. Like,   one of the first things I said to you except the eyes is like, where the fuck have you been?  

[01:54:32] Unknown:

It's It's like, where the fuck have you been? And I'm not looking for any relationships.   No. No. You know, stay on your side. I'll stay on my side.   No. No. No. No relationships.   But the more with time that our energy is spent together,   the more we realize,   like, how this feeling was inside   and how, like   like, this feeling,   like I said before, this feeling that we have,   this is what we're looking for. This is this stealing. I don't wanna settle for anything less than what this is.   Right. Wherever that may go. Like, I'm I let go of expectations.   And   when   our   as we're saying goodbye,   it's like this is   this is the baseline. This is where I want to be. This is how I want to   feel. To be with somebody   that is so,   mature is not the right word,   aware of his own energy and aware of how energy affects people and   the entanglement of things. And   I think it was a very,   for both of us,   a time for us to reflect inward about how our selves had been   and to reflect on how   we want to carry that forward.  



[01:56:07] Unknown:

Yes.   But, also,   you mirrored   me   with   the relationships you have for your sons,   the relationship   I have with my mom. You showed me   your mama bear   your mama bear thing   and what struggled with you   and the struggles that you have and and the   the grief and the sadness you have about   things, how it went.   And   I had to realize, like, fuck. I still got my mom.   And I basically saw my mom struggling   and probably trying to do the same things as you did,   but it doesn't mean that it's gonna work out, if you know what I mean. You can put all your energy, your lovely energy in it, but it has to come from both ways.   So I definitely know   that my,   relationship to my mom, which is still very fucking complicated because yesterday was a little   whatever.  

But   it's definitely changed me   on my perception   and perspective of what's b to b a mom.   And she's going to be   76   right now. I think 76, whatever. Yeah. She's now 76.   So   and then I heard your stories and how much it hurted you.   But then I think that you also heard my stories about how I think about things   that you could implement in your life   about how people,   family,   could or can react   in your   world,   which makes   it makes no sense, but it makes sense because it makes no sense if you know what I'm trying to say.   And,   and it's it's something that   family is something   you you not choose   to have family.  

And I always had a very, very hard relationship   with with all the things in my with my father   who who is not, who is not there anymore,   with my sis, with my mom.   And,   but throughout the years,   I learned so much about facing my own traumas,   facing myself in the mirror. And and, yes, I wasn't proud   of myself yesterday   at all.   I can keep my cool   in every situation as you just pointed out with there could be a car crash. I'm calm as fuck. I'm gonna save. I'm gonna save. People   are just gonna make the best out of it. Okay?   But when it comes to my mom, there's a trigger point that's, like,   on   ongoing   bonanza for nothing.  

That's my   people could fuck up my life   on my phone.   Right? But it doesn't affect me or I just don't give a shit. I just don't give a shit. With my mom, it's a different story. She triggers me all the time.   But I saw   and I realized that   the trip to America   had to be done   to show me   all these things unfolding right in front of me.   Like, how are you gonna deal with it?   With the credit card?   Oh, it's blocked. Fuck.   Right? Yeah. What are you gonna do now? I don't know. I'll figure something out.   Not losing my crew.   Nothing. I just   kept on. Okay. It's gonna be okay.  

So   the day that I arrived back in Europe,   my credit card was for the fourth time blocked.   But   I learned a lesson,   especially about finances.   If we were looking at finances, we could not make the   strip at   all. If I was looking at finance, I would not end up in America. I knew it's gonna cost me some money, but it's gonna give me much, much more   experience,   knowledge, and wisdom   about myself, not only about the country, not only about the beautiful people like Donna that I met,   but especially like, oh, you're you're on yourself.   What does so and you can agree with that. We basically   said to God   or to the universe, to the source,   let's show show you what's there.  

Probably everything   that we   would have done   when we were making a plan   will not turn out that fucking magical and awesome as we had now. Like, the hotels for cheap,   the amazing food, the beautiful people, the no people in places where it was fucking crowding.   Dude,   like,   wow.  

[02:01:37] Unknown:

So So the thing that we did,   right? So the thing that we did, I think, the best   was to just let go and let be.   It's just   it. Like, oh, That's   Just be. We just it just is.  

[02:01:55] Unknown:

Right. And  

[02:01:56] Unknown:

to allow   the universe to   then   give us unfold before us   all the   opportunities   and experiences   and   the mirror.   Like, to talk to you   as a mother of my sons   who   one one has passed,   one just got back from Guam. I haven't seen him in years,   and one who hasn't talked to me since his brother died,   is another reason I was in LA was to see him.   And   to to see all this   work out   between   you and me   about our conversations   and how your reactions with your mom and how that is with me and my sons,   it was such a beautiful   opportunity   to see   from   a son's perspective   how you're not happy with your mom   and how things worked out in your life with your mom. And I'm like,   wow. Wonder what my son thinks about all of this.  

And to be able to have that mirror   that you provided,   oh, it was so good. I I feel so much   more understanding   with my son about things.   I felt more,   at peace about how I handled things when we got divorced.   And   it   oh, and that opportunity   to have that car accident right in front of us with, you know, all the trauma of my son's death,   you provided   such a great opportunity.   Now have that been different?   Had we have been in a different place,   we would have gone down the argument   path, the negativity   of things, oh, I was angry about whatever.   Whatever   all that,   old programming, the old matrix.  

If we could've   if if we would've taken our trip   and put it into the old paradigm, the old program,   we would not have had a good time.   We would've been   short on money.   We would've been, oh, you didn't book a hotel.   Oh, you did this wrong. Oh, the gas station's too far. We're not gonna make it. You messed up.   All those things that I've experienced in my past,   to experience   them with you   was   like a rebeginning.   It was like a restart.   Like, wow. I'm not getting yelled at because I wanna pull over and take a picture.   Wow. I'm not getting yelled at because I missed the exit for the gas station.  

Wow.   We're we're we're having all this wonderful,   experiences   because we just let go and just let be   and just experienced   what is.   That Right. That was the blessing of this trip,   And that is what I want   everybody   to, like,   strive for.   Just live with what is.   Is it And allow the universe to unfold.  

[02:05:41] Unknown:

Yes. Is it strange that we are so stuck   in the paradigm   of society to have a plan?   Wait. What do you mean you don't have a plan? Well,   what happens if you don't have a plan?   I mean, I never ever live so freely, and I still   have to deal with some shit, of course.   The thing is   you always have a choice.   And   the easiest path   and the easiest way   is to finger point   to people   or events   or situations,   but don't look at yourself that you fucked up, that you screwed up, that you are the one   who is not   doing the right choices in your life so you can be   with with ease and with calm and with   wow.  

So   when you say   live in the present,   I don't know what the future brings. A hotel, cheap,   expensive,   food, yes or no? Where, what? I don't know.   The past   showed me lessons.   If I'm willing to face the lessons   and face the the fear that I had in the past and to see what what what shaped me as a human right now, my behavior,   the the way I've been treating people and treating them back.   I mean, you said it in the first podcast.   We really enlightened people just by getting into a conversation.   We were getting into a conversation.   I mean,   there is no coincidence.  

This felt so   fucking good.   Just like you just said,   people have to experience that life is great,   but you have to choose for it. You have to let go of all the trauma and all the drama and all the fucking bullshit   because you can't change it. The only thing you can change is the way you look at yourself   and and to to create the the universe that you live in for yourself now.   Tomorrow, nobody knows. The past, hey.   Deal with it. It's there.   You can't reshape it. You only thing you can do is say, like, I don't want that anymore. So what you're gonna do?   You're gonna change it now,   not tomorrow. Oh, I'm so,   yes, I'm very, very happy, Donna,   that we've met.  

And the way you treated me,   the way we treat each other is is I think it's a big example for a lot of people   the way it should be, the way it can be.   Because   well, I I no. That's that's the point.  

[02:09:01] Unknown:

I think the the experience   is   is   that we we allowed for the universe to provide.   Okay. You don't have a plan,   but you got a plan.   You know that the universe   will   unfold   exactly   the way it needs to for you.   And same for me. I just know that   whatever's going to come up is going to be something that's taken care of. It doesn't it I don't have to worry.   I don't have to be afraid.   There's no fear.   Like, dude, I just had a stranger in my car from The Netherlands. I don't it was a backpack.   Come on.  

[02:09:49] Unknown:

Right.   And She's wearing a skirt. That's perfectly fine. It's normal.  

[02:09:56] Unknown:

Okay. I actually absolutely love   love love   that you had the skirt.   I think that was one of the first things you told me   when you were when we first met at the booth that you had a skirt.   Like, wow.   That's hot.   Uh-huh.   But here, we call it a kilt.   I   haven't actually met a man that wears a skirt quite like yours.   I definitely feel like every every man I know used to have this skirt. So,   yeah, he's got your skirt figured out so we can get this distributed.  

[02:10:40] Unknown:

Well yeah. And and there's an update for that too. So I got   basically three models right now.   I sold already some of my skirts.   I'm still figuring out the fabric,   a little bit.   And,   I need to have a website. So there's a lot of work,   coming on my way, which I really love because I love to to to work with with my creativity   on this kind of stuff.   But I figured out also,   like,   you need the right people   with the right mindset   in your team, whatever you're gonna build. If it's gonna be a family, if it's gonna be,   business wise, if it's gonna be, like, your personal, your social life, you need the right people on the right track.  

So   I got now a guy,   this wizard,   who's providing me for the website and stuff like that.   And,   I have to figure out a little bit more about the fabrics, but, sure,   there is   very soon a way to order them.   And there's another thing that I wanna talk to you about   just, like, briefly.   We got a new   sponsor,   and the sponsor is called adding.org.   I will put it in the show description link because a lot of people do not see this. When you're looking at the video, probably I'm gonna try to edit it in here.   So what they provide   worldwide   is,   products for grounding.  

So if you're living in an apartment wherever you are and you can't ground because there's no nature around you, you can be barefooted   on the soil of mother nature, mother earth. You can have a grounding mat. But there's also a way to have   grounding sheets, stuff like that.   The thing is, I'm just figuring it out. I ordered   three products.   Probably with the TikTok life, when there are enough people in the TikTok life,   the ones that give me the biggest gifts   on TikTok,   I will draw three of these highest   if there's whatever the fuck they're gonna call it. I have to figure it out probably   and   send them one of these products.  

But also wanna do a lot of other things with, like, a podcast that you can you know, I need to cover the shipping costs.   The rest, I pay for everything. These are not cheap products. These are great products. I just want you to know   there's gonna be   a affiliate link where you can click on all my websites. Probably, it's gonna be done before I gonna release this webs, this episode,   where you can   purchase these products.   And, you're not gonna regret it. It's so good for your health, especially when you're working in an office with a lot of computers and all the Wi Fi and buildings and and towers and all that stuff around you.   Use a mat.  

And I think that   this is   exactly what we did, Donna.   We were grounding   not only in America   on American soil,   but also with the right people,   with the right mindset, with the right   interconnection   to   what there is   so you don't have to feel   stress, fear,   hate,   you know, emotional   breakdowns.   And we figured that   out really fucking good.  

[02:14:27] Unknown:

We did. We took our shoes off a lot.   Yeah.   A lot.   It's like, oh, he likes to take his shoes off. Oh, I'm gonna take my shoes off. I love to walk barefoot, and I've never met anybody   well, another man that likes to walk barefoot   and takes his shoes off   all the time. Like, I don't know.  

[02:14:49] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yesterday, I was   walking here in a forest and,   a guy came across me with this dog. Beautiful dog. It was a Ridgeback.   So I said, like, dog looked at me and, yeah, always gotta figure out with the dog. You know, he just saw me because otherwise, they're gonna be scared and gonna attack me or whatever.   So this dog looks up, and I I just sent it in like, hey. It's me. And, he came across, and he he was laughing. The dog was just like, hey. Fuck. Yeah. And I said, hey, dog. How are you doing, man? And this guy come across me, and I said, hi.   And,   I wasn't past five meters. He said, can I ask you something? So, yeah.  

I don't normally see people walking barefoot in a forest.   Does it hurt?   I said,   no.   That's the funny thing.   If I walk on concrete,   it hurts.   If I walk in the forest,   normally, nothing happens.   So I said,   the thing is because you think   it's it's in your mind. Your mind's just like, oh, you're gonna hurt yourself.   About what?   What what could possibly   happen?   So people are afraid for for little little,   sticks or whatever, you know, splinters.   I swear to god, if you walk barefooted at your house, you have more problems with that or more you could get more in an accident with your feet with that than in the forest.   By the way, we're made for it, fellow human. We are made   to walk barefooted   on this earth.  

It's   the the best connection you can have with   whoever is mother earth,   and you can only connect with walking barefoot.   So he looked at me and was like, oh, wow. And he was seeing a guy in skirt.   So he said, yeah. Yeah. Well, you never see that. So I was thinking, like, what you did never see, like, a guy in a skirt   or   a guy walking barefoot.   Then I'm just like,   both.   And and he just said, like, wow. I gotta I gotta figure that out. So, yeah, why not?   Why not?  

[02:17:17] Unknown:

This is our opportunity   to,   to bring other people into our experience   by doing the walk walking barefoot,   the breathing stuff, the meditation.   When people see us doing that   and have a question,   that's the opportunity to, like, show them something different.   Because we do have choice.   We have choice. We have more choice now than we've ever had.   Not because of our age, but because of the way the frequency is with the Earth.   And   having that,   the the Earth is shifting. We're in the age of Aquarius now. And   choices that we have now   were   not possible   for my parents.  

They weren't possible for our grandparent.   You know, I think about, like, Napoleon   Hill. He did all these things back then.   My dad probably read those books.   My dad probably   did his best, but now my dad is not okay. He did not continue on in that   awakened,   mindset. He went back to the three d. He's doing this. He is completely stuck. And I I understand that because   I know that the energy is different now, and we have different choices to make. And for more people, the more the more the more the people   come together and wake up and see the difference and see each other as human.   Not as different, but to see the human side.  

We're just human   trying to live on this planet   that other humans are messing up, but they're just humans too.   And we can all live together   and see each other as a mirror   and not as an enemy.   Oh. Wow.  

[02:19:23] Unknown:

So   especially if   you see what the what the the word human   means, it's light being.   And I have encountered   in my life a lot of strange people, and I I justify them all. Like, oh, look at that fat ass. Oh, look at that ugly one. But now since last couple of years, like five years,   I   challenged myself to look   beyond that expectation that you have in your stupid head. Like, oh, banana should be should be like like,   like that. You know? Or apple should be perfectly red or green or whatever.   No. Look look at   what these people   can bring you even if maybe it has a strange voice or a strange,   attitude or or how it how he or she or whatever the fuck looks.  

That doesn't mean that they can give you something   that you can hold in your heart   forever. Like,   wow.   I never ever   got that blessing or a lesson   when I was having that judgment.   And,   yes, we are in an age of Aquarius.   Chaos   creates harmony,   and I'm I'm living this this this chaos creates harmony life for quite a long time.   And I can tell you with all the stuff that's going on right now in this world,   it needs   to be settled.   It needs to have some payoffs.   Maybe there's some bloodshed, but it's all for the good new earth   because more and more people waking up.  

Stuff that I say in my podcast, not in every episode, but in some podcasts that I did,   it was bad.   Canceled. You can't bring it out. You you got   policy, community guidelines, whatever the fuck. Nowadays, there's so much content about the same topics.   They can't hold it. It's like this little crack in the dam is going to explode.   There's so many good things right now happening,   but you have to see through the chaos.   And   yes. So I did a fast   to get me out of the chaos   for four and a half days.   No food.   Perfectly fine.   And you may ask yourself, why would you do that? I love to eat. I love to eat too.  

But in the chaos of all the abundance that we have with going to the supermarket, grocery store, pick your food, whatever you want,   go to a drive in to pick whatever you want. You can drink whatever you want. You can get stoned. You can get high. You can get drunk. You can get sober.   Choose sometimes   not to be in the in that carousel of, oh, oh, abundance. No.   Choose to be humble.   Look at how far you can put your own mind   into   nothingness.   I that space of nothingness,   I like that.   I'm more creative with my thoughts.   I'm I'm I'm figuring out, like, wow.  

I can really do without food.   The first first few times when I did Wim Hof, I would think I can't I cannot   breathe   within a minute of you   you can't live   without breathing one minute.   I did sometimes two minutes of no breathing.   The level of   upgrade you're gonna get   about your   own mindset, how powerful your   your being, your mind is,   that's only   when you do it yourself.   Not looking at whatever movies that you look at, YouTube, whatever. Like, people are amazing or whatever the fuck.   Be amazing in your own world.  

[02:23:48] Unknown:

Yes. Be amazing in your world. I'll be amazing in my world.   Dude, we gotta bring our worlds together again.  

[02:23:56] Unknown:

Yes.   We   dudes,   we   so take a look at the zoraashproductions.com.   There are a lot of crazy cool links with some cool merchandise.   Donna, where do people find you? I put it the link in the in the short description the other time, but I think it was,   tell me.  

[02:24:20] Unknown:

Living with Donna?   Yeah. So I started doing a TikTok again.   Living with Donna. It's Donna time.   Really not sure yet where it's going to go, but for now, we're just going to make some videos and   live with Donna in a van and   experience   these things that I have to share with you   at living with Donna.  

[02:24:47] Unknown:

I love the introduction that you did on your first video with living with Donna. Well, not the first video, but   the first video seems a long,   long time.  

[02:24:58] Unknown:

Yep.   Hello, fellow human.  

[02:25:01] Unknown:

Right.   Yes.  

[02:25:04] Unknown:

Yes. I love, love, love that you say that. I feel so strongly about the fellow human   because   that's   that's   ultimately,   we're all the same.   We're all one.   I mean, you can be that and this and all these different   characters   of   the race of humans.   Like, we're just one.   We're just one.  

[02:25:36] Unknown:

Everybody is awesome in in in in their   thing.   Sometimes you have to figure out where they're awesome in, but   everybody has a unique   task.   I'm convinced about that. Even even, let's say, the evil people,   evil people have to show you how beautiful life could be.   Everything has a purpose. Everything has a mirror.   Everything   that you encounter. So   I hate it when people say, like, NPCs.   I got it. I I get what you're trying to say with that, but the funny thing is we encountered some NPCs on a road trip. But as soon as I was starting to get a conversation with them, all of a sudden, they got it seems like they were awakening out of the spell.   Right? You you saw, like,   you saw the demons leaving from the body like, fuck.  

And then they were just like,   were you talking to me? Yeah. How you do it?   Just like that. You know how many   everyone is struggling,   and everyone is fighting a battle.   Everyone.   No exception.   The the the   there's no exception. Everyone has something that he has to deal with in his life.   And we just need some support, man. We just need laughter   or just, just the arm around you or just maybe just like a little smile while you're walking in the grocery store like, hey, man. You know that guy in LA when he was doing this crazy stuff, like, talking, and I was getting in a conversation with him, and he was just like, wow.   You feel the same? I said, fuck. Yeah, man. I feel the same. Well, we're   awesome. Yes. We are. And all the people   were first stopping what they're doing, looking like, what the fuck is gonna happen?  

And I swear to god, one minute after the conversation,   everybody was laughing around us like, wow.   Wow.   You know that dude? No. Never saw him in my whole fucking life, but he knows the fucking deal.   Yeah. Yeah. We got it this time.   K. We gotta wrap it up, Donna. It's been three hours now, probably four. I don't know.  

[02:28:05] Unknown:

I don't know. We could probably continue talking, but I'm not sure everybody would quite like it.  

[02:28:11] Unknown:

Okay. I'm gonna wrap it up right now.   So,   thank you for listening to this episode.   I'm gonna   I'm gonna put the the links and all that stuff in the show description.   I hope you had a really   awesome   subscription   about what our trip meant for   us, not only as individual, but also as   a as a traveling,   oneness.   And, I hope you,   you had a great time listening to this episode, fellow human.   So,   I wish you a very beautiful   grant rising,   a beautiful day,   or beautiful evening no matter where you are on this beautiful planet.   Thank you for listening.  



[02:29:04] Unknown:

Thank you. Thank you, Rob. This was this was my   my first experience with podcasting,   and my I really figured out a lot of things. I really appreciate that.   And I look forward to our next conversation,   whatever that might be.   And I really hope that we can do a road trip on another continent,   you and me together.   And Alright. Be with the see what the world has for us out there.  

[02:29:37] Unknown:

It's our hey. Go to the fucking moon.  

[02:29:42] Unknown:

Buy me a fucking plane ticket.  

[02:29:44] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:29:45] Unknown:

Right? Okay. Okay. So you're We don't know what's gonna happen. We don't know there's no plan. There's no   fear. There's no money attachments.   It's just all going to   unfold   exactly as as it needs to.  

[02:30:01] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:30:03] Unknown:

Alright. And I hope that's for everybody out there.   Till next time.  

[02:30:08] Unknown:

See you next time.  

[02:30:12] Unknown:

Bye bye.  

[02:30:54] Unknown:

God   show me the light.   There's a plane in the ass,   black as a night.   Tight.