In this Mexplosive episode, GLO (Pillars of Wisdom) joins us for an esoteric gymnastic mind flex the power of physical books and why your digital presence is on borrowed time. We wrestle with:
- Why books are the last frontier of free speech – How to protect your ideas from Big Tech erasure.
- The coming globalist crackdown – Predictions on war, CBDCs, and the next "manufactured crisis."
- Occult warfare & hidden knowledge – Kabbalah, alchemy, and the real forces shaping history.
- Escaping the West – Why Mexico (and self-sufficiency) might be your best survival plan.
- Spiritual combat – Semen retention, energy vampires, and how modern vices drain your power.
🔥 PLUS: Why your mother government wants you weak and distracted.
📖 Get GLO’s book Pillars of Wisdom: PillarsOfWisdom.com
Unveiling the Mystical: From Book Publishing to Modern Masculinity
The Hidden Forces: Exploring Religion, Mysticism, and Psychoanalysis
Preserving Voices: The Power of Books in a Digital Age
Rituals and Realities: A Journey Through the Occult and Modern Society
From Manuscripts to Mysticism: Navigating the Complexities of Identity
GLO returns as our guest to discuss concepts from his book Pillars of Wisdom.
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(00:01:06) Discussion on JFK Documents and Executive Orders
(00:02:13) Guest Introduction: Celebrated Author GLO
(00:05:24) The Importance of Physical Books in Preserving Ideas
(00:09:08) Men's Labor Capacity and Intellectual Output
(00:13:24) Deplatforming and the Importance of Books
(00:17:23) Future Predictions: Central Bank Digital Currency
(00:20:31) Identity Manipulation and Media Influence
(00:24:00) Food as a Cultural Argument
(00:30:34) Expanding Networks and Cross-Pollination of Ideas
(00:35:59) Encouraging Social Interaction Among Men
(00:44:09) The Need for Hero's Journey Literature
(00:48:00) Economic Challenges and Male Identity
(00:56:01) Potential for War and Male Conscription
(01:03:12) Globalist Agendas and Potential Conflicts
(01:09:03) The Role of Elders and Selling Out
(01:12:25) Male Suicide Rates and Mental Health
(01:19:03) Orthodox Christianity and Identity Seeking
(01:25:23) Jewish Influence and Historical Context
(01:44:03) Navigating Identity and Religious Influence
(02:00:10) Occult Practices and Cultural Rituals
(02:19:03) Psychoanalysis and Therapy for Men
(02:33:36) Sexual Energy and Spiritual Warfare
(02:56:02) Petrochemical Drugs and Spirituality
(03:12:00) Red Pill Community and Internal Conflicts
(03:17:23) Publishing Books as a Form of Resistance
- Book Publishing and Preservation of Ideas: The importance of physical books to preserve voices in an era of digital deplatforming is emphasized. The speaker shares their experience of publishing a book, "Pillars of Wisdom," and encourages others to collaborate and write to ensure their ideas endure.
- Censorship and Digital Platforms: Concerns about inevitable deplatforming on platforms like YouTube and Substack are raised, with a focus on the need for alternative methods like books to maintain free expression.
- Community and Labor: The value of teamwork and dividing labor among groups to achieve goals is highlighted, along with the idea of men sharpening each other through debate and collaboration.
- Cultural and Identity Issues: Discussions touch on manufactured identities, the loss of cultural heritage, and the dangers of young men being pulled into globalist agendas like wars or ideological movements.
- Religion and Occultism: The conversation delves into Kabbalah, alchemy, and the symbolic meanings behind religious rituals. There's skepticism toward mainstream religious interpretations and an exploration of esoteric knowledge.
- Health and Lifestyle: Topics include the benefits of local food, clean eating, and the negative effects of modern pharmaceuticals and processed foods on spiritual and physical health.
- Political and Economic Concerns: Predictions about future global conflicts (e.g., war with Iran), the rise of central bank digital currencies (CBDCs), and the manipulation of public opinion through propaganda are discussed.
- Personal Stories and Anecdotes: The speakers share personal experiences, such as living off-grid, dealing with censorship, and encounters with esoteric groups.
In this engaging episode, we dive into a wide-ranging discussion that touches on everything from the intricacies of publishing a book to the complexities of modern masculinity. Our guest, a celebrated author, shares insights into the challenges and triumphs of writing and publishing, emphasizing the importance of preserving voices in physical formats amidst the digital age's uncertainties. We explore the dynamics of male identity, the pressures of societal expectations, and the potential of collaborative efforts in creative endeavors.
We also delve into the esoteric, discussing the intersections of religion, mysticism, and psychoanalysis. The conversation takes a turn into the realm of the occult, examining the symbolic and practical aspects of rituals and their implications in contemporary society. From the significance of the Tree of Life to the power of language and symbolism, this episode offers a thought-provoking exploration of the hidden forces that shape our world. Join us for a journey through the mystical and the mundane, as we seek to understand the deeper currents that influence our lives.
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Hey. Hey. Hey. There we are.
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Right on times, dudes. Punctual. Right.
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Right?
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This is punctual as it released the JFK documents.
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Way more punctual than the release of the JFK documents or the Epstein files.
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I I see that he did have his hot pen out today again, though.
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The auto pen?
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No. He he don't autopen it. That that the autopen has been fallen under disgrace.
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What's the pen? So the pen fifteen club he's in?
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The Trump is definitely in the Penn fifteen club. He is. Yeah. Penn is my dear. He is. His hair is GLO.
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Alright. He's trying to compete with Roosevelt. He's like, you know, that dude got 4,000 in a matter of twelve years.
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I can do 4,000 in three days. Yeah. It'll be the best 4,000 executive orders anyone's seen. Believe me, they'll be beautiful. As long as you do accordion hands, it's fine. We just gotta do the accordion hands. But, yeah, let's, let's bring up tonight's guest, returning guest, celebrated author, GLO. Very nice to have you back. Good to see you. Hope you're doing well.
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Got the book here. All aligned properly? Yeah. It looks like a camera.
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Dealers of wisdom.
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You're you're in there. Can you hear me?
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I can't hear them. I can't hear them at all. Really?
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Wow.
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I can't hear anyone.
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We we can we can see you and hear you.
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We hear
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you. It'll make retorts really hard.
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Right? Walk the pillars of wisdom with a new cover. Might have seen it before. No. I can't hear that.
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Maybe the just lineup settings in StreamYard with the device.
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Yeah. That's what it probably is. I had a I had a hard time with that for the longest time. Yeah. It was actually my input. I was having trouble with it. Didn't wanna pick up as it kept I'm there, but I can't hear anyone.
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Oh, we'll keep talking about pens. I got a blue pen. I don't have my red pen. I wish I had a purple Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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I also have I yeah. I can hear the YouTube, but I can't hear them.
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Weird.
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And I don't know if they can hear me. Yeah. Yeah. We can totally hear you.
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So it's your audio out that isn't lined up on your device. Okay. Now I can hear them. Now I can hear them. Now you can hear us? Nice. Yeah. Heck. Yeah. But it's How you doing, buddy? I'm doing really good.
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I, I spent two thousand dollars on my new book cover, so
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that was It is beautiful.
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If that's that's kind of my big thing right now. Yeah. No. No. We're good. Thank you. Side down, Marcus. There you go. Yeah. Well, I just wanna look at it from all the angles. Oh, and if you want, I'll send you guys more copies. You know? So
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Maybe there's, some some chatters tonight who wanna
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Grab up a copy. Yeah. Yeah. Copies to read? Where do they where do they go? Before we before we get into it, where do they go to grab a copy of the book?
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They go to the pillarsofwisdom.com.
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Okay.
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And, I got a new cover because, a chemist and a lawyer aren't artists and, spent $2,000 on a real artist who did her job really well.
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Yeah. And,
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and so yeah. So that's the pillars of wisdom. And, yeah. I didn't I didn't realize what it was gonna take to put a book together.
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It was a lot of work.
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It's I it's worth it. I think as having been on Reddit and having been deplatformed and seeing all the deplatformings, I think we need to push forward into the book format because right now I'm on Substack or you guys are on YouTube, and another deplatforming is inevitable at some point. And, I I think, you know, we agree on some issues. We don't agree on some issues. I think it's very important that people like us, our voices are heard, our voices are preserved. And in the physical format, that's gonna happen. And on the digital format, it's not you know, there's there's a lot of amazing YouTube content that's impossible to find right now.
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We know. We're part of a lot of it.
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Yeah. So, and, you know, when you mail things, they they can't stop you. Right? So if you have a strong network that gendered language that we're gonna allow tonight
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to mail things. Uh-oh.
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Oh, come on. Post
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when you post the
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on. We'll take that fucking lap, Marcus. Jesus. Yeah. So That was bad.
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Right. You caught me with that. But, yeah, I I I highly recommend that, let's say, your group coalesce and publish something because, they they will get you at some point. You know?
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I have I have no less than three books that I need to write. I just I work eighteen hours a day, seven days a week, and it's, it's difficult to find
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time to to do that. I would say, you know, you guys know my book really well. Right? So I would say you have a certain amount of time you can allocate. And, oh, hold on. Chair. You have a certain amount of time you can allocate, And so just just split the labor up amongst your team.
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You know? And that way, you can process total would you say it took you to put this together and and have it published and whatnot? How many Okay. Me or all my men?
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Everybody altogether.
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All of them. Oh, so I have some articles there from ten years ago. So, and then, I have a couple of PhDs in that book. There's a lot of proofreading. The artist, I don't know, like, 300 or something something, like, completely preposterous, just because I I wrote about a lot of deep topics. There's, like, a a a work section on how to get a job. So there's, programmers and people in management. So, yeah, I I would say that if you can just aggregate labor, I think that's the best way to go about it. And then that way, your bulk won't seem dry because over time, you'll have different voices and the chapters will be distinct because there's only so much of you that you can give.
And
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so it just just tag team the whole operation, I would say. That's one of the topics of the book is, arriving at a place of surplus where you're able to output more labor, more work.
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I I I would say as men, you only have a certain labor capacity. Right? You only have a certain lab intellectual capacity. And once you hit your limit, tag team your boy in and have him take over. And I think you guys have an amazing network of people. And and I think you could do it because, otherwise, you just have these opinions that flow float around on these papers and these scrolls, and they're never aggregated into anything. Right? And then they just kinda disperse. Right. So
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and then Another topic is where we got the the surplus of labor, you know, man working and, needing that to bulk up and gather strength. The other topic is overcoming kind of the the loser scripts, the loser mentality. There's sort of this idea that still exists where someone's doing well and they're showing off, and then people wanna knock them down a few pegs, and they can't celebrate and lift everybody up together. Especially, let's just focus on men tonight. We don't wanna talk about the other sex. We wanna tackle men, sharpening other men. This is kind of the point of our debate format is men sharpening men.
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I I I would say that if you look at any anything, like, any object in front of you, there's a lot of men there. Right? Like, every pen, every every table, every laptop, every car has a lot of different men in it. Right? And so as Americans, you guys are have this individualism, which is really toxic. It's unnatural. That's not how people thought people are are tribal. And if you can aggregate labor with other men, you can you can cross that threshold to produce whatever you need to produce. Right? Like, for me, I have very good creative rhetoric. But on on very specific types of writing, let's say, on economics or helping men get jobs, I'm weak.
And so what I know where my weaknesses are, and I I don't try and improve on my weaknesses. I just try and find men who are strong there. Right? So and then the other thing is that, like, you never really know for sure. Like, if if I ask you, hey. Do like, can you draw a circle? Right? You can't. Right? So the same way people spot you in bodybuilding, you you need a spotter. You need an editor. So I I I would say that. And then the other thing is that, you know, we're all mortal, and your peak labor capacity is gonna diminish over time. At some point, you're gonna peak physically, intellectually in terms of your labor output. And I think it's important to, do your best work while you can, before that inevitable, biological decline. Right? So, like, Julie Savola, wrote, Revolt Against the Modern World when he was 35. Right? So we you actually have a lot less time as a man than you think. Right?
So I I don't know. I see I I see your podcast. I know you're really amazing, guys. I know you're really smart. You're holding my book, and my book is a product of a team. And I know you have an amazing team, and I don't trust YouTube. And I think you could and I think you could do something similar, you know, and and, it'll take a lot of work, but they will purge you. Like, a lot of the men going their own way content, a lot of the pandemic content, all of that stuff, is just gone. Right? And I and I think you have a very loyal following. Right? And so you can push your book out to them. So, yeah, my book is cool. Yeah. You guys should buy it.
Your audience should buy it. They're gonna love it. But, if I can do it, you can do it. You know? And I think I I I I think that's what I want the message to be. Like, I had my own team. You have your own team. I know you're intelligent. You guys pushed into me intellectually. I feel that intellectual strength you guys have. Right? It's it's like if you have a reproductive capacity, you have to reproduce. Right? And and you're only Viral for so long. You're only, intellectual for so long before you start getting Joe Biden. Right? Before you Yeah. So,
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That's a good point. The idea that over time, a man might soften.
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Well, you got you got a extremely your whole point is extremely valid because I I well, that part Marcus is talking about, we'll discuss that. But the other part of the point, you see guys like Freeman Fly, and that guy was a juggernaut of information. And Yes, sir. He got put down by, YouTube. He got put down by the the fact is, is Steve's already been kicked off YouTube. I've been booted, had all my subs ripped away. Even today, regularly, like, last month, I lost 19 subs, and I didn't even do anything. Like I've been kicked off of YouTube for six years now. Yeah.
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It was 2019. I didn't even I started the channel in 2018. I made it less than a year before they were like, nah.
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Well, that's what you get for showing the CDC website.
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Yep. It was even before that. All I was doing was talking about free speech. They were like, no, fucker. You you gotta go.
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But you you've got an absolutely valid point. It's without putting it in hardcover. There's brilliant talks I was involved in that are just gone. You can't find them. They're just gone.
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Well, what I would recommend is take your talks, translate them to, like, like a script. Right? Like Yeah. Do do an audio to text, and then from there, have Chat GPT or something or tool annotate those points. And then from there, work that into an article. Right? So, obviously, don't have Chat GPT write your stuff, but you can have, notebook, LLM organize your notes for you. And it can it can help you find stuff that you're looking for. Right? So that searching task, which is so labor intensive for your book writing, you could use those language models to strip out all the good points for you. Right?
And, that can help you get past certain labor thresholds, which would be, really hard for you, otherwise.
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Right. So you're talking about writing a book. A lot of people think that means sitting down at a typewriter, a blank sheet of paper, and just starting from there. But the process of writing is really gathering ideas and testing those ideas. And that's Yeah. You your lifetime up until about ten years ago, publishing on on subreddits that are now
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no longer there. Your content's been erased from from history. You guys, in reality, already have a book. It's just in an oral tradition Yep. Effectively. And you need to transfer that oral tradition into a written tradition. And with the advances of AI, you could really do a lot of the organizing and sorting, and then and then really under like, once you have the general structure of your book, then you can start delegating labor. But unless you do it, I would say, okay. Trump's in office for four years. Right? Then they're gonna bring something else, and they're gonna hard pivot somewhere else. And, there's, like, agenda twenty thirty. Right? And under that agenda twenty thirty, there'll be new psy ops. There'll be a war with Iran.
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There'll be all sorts of stuff. Right? Where where do you think the hard pivot is gonna go in, after 2028?
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Okay. So one of the people who I I met from the red pill, he, he was a globalist. So he worked for Goldman Sachs. Okay. And he went to Davos. Mhmm. And and he and he basically told me that information is the new gold. Yeah. And so We we've known that for, like, a decade. And so they have to pivot you to central bank digital currency, and they have to start farming you for for information. Right. Absolutely. They have to. And, so so there has to be infrastructure in place that's gonna be doing that. And then on top of that, they there's gonna be a surveillance capitalism that you already saw. Like, there was, smart meters. Have you guys ever read, silent weapons for quiet wars?
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Dude, I I got I got a copy of behold a pale horse horse Okay. In 1994 when I was, what, 16. Okay. And I read it like it was the freaking bible. I sell shirts on my merch store of Bill Cooper on a pale horse. Like, it's So It it it's real like that.
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Yeah. So you can see that okay. If you look at the African American rap identity, right, you you know that it's completely artificial, and there were channels
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identity? Yeah. Like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, that makes sense.
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He's talking about studio gangsters.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they they channeled the entire African populate African American population into a certain style of thinking. Right? Or there's an SJW thing that they channel people into post 2013. Right? So there's the pandemic identity where they channel people. Right? So they're gonna do it again. There was a Ukraine identity. They these people download the software. Basically, like, in Behold a Pale Horse, there's Durant Corporation. They're gonna write out these identities, then the media is gonna implement those identities on those people. And when you guys don't go along with it, you're gonna be treated like cool locks under, like, the Bolshevik regime of the '19 you know, nineteen twenties. Right?
And because you're not going along with the next thing, there's gonna be, like, a cool Jordan Peterson, a cool Ben Shapiro. Traffic's gonna be funneled there, and then you're gonna be downregulated. And then you're gonna be downregulated, downregulated, downregulated until you're in this unknowable corner. And, so so I I I guess that like, they the the thing that I'm most concerned about is when you look at Chat GBT or DeepSeq. Right? Before, we would speak in euphemisms. Right? Like like, we you could say something like basketball Americans and just gonna be like, like like, YouTube doesn't know, when when I say basketball Americans, what I'm truly meaning.
Right? But the language models are so good, and the voice detection is so good that that if when I run this YouTube video through a language model, I'll see all the main points. And from there, I can I can trace everyone's ideologies, actually, to an 90%, accuracy?
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Right? This is why I'm not allowed on YouTube because instead of basketball Americans, I just say the blacks. And I have a a ton of the blacks that cohost shows with me. That I have, like, I have
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three black cohosts. Do we capitalize all of them in black? Is that a capital b black?
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Uh-huh.
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Like, capital letter b, l a c Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Capital t, capital b. I wanna be dramatic to act in the right The blacks. Like like Donald Trump says, the blacks. You gotta do the accordion hand. That's that's identitarianism.
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So we have the blacks.
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Maybe maybe if you do the accordion hands, it it makes it softer.
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I'm seeing a euphemism on threads, a lot of, w w's. I think that stands for white women. So there's a white women.
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I like Michael Malice's awful. AWFL, affluent white female liberals. Liberals. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm a I'm a big fan of that. Dude, shout out to Michael Malice. I hope he's doing well.
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But you have to be careful with these language models because our euphemism game that we played in 2016, and you'll see that euphemism game played in my book, actually, which is how I got past, Steve Hoffman and his censorship machine. Later on, they called on. And so it's it's interesting how long are we gonna be able to play these language games for, or it's gonna be like chess where they they solve the game. And Well, that's why all George Carlin did to me. Symbolism.
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That's why you've gotta get into the language of symbolism is the only place that they can't yet.
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Well, it's it's the place in which they reign too. Yeah. The symbolism.
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Because they're really bad at it.
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But they've captured they've cornered the whole fucking market. They put out a lot of books.
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A lot of their books are fake. And then the other thing, like, now that we have a really advanced, you know, language model, right, given to us effectively for free. In Chinese. But if you take that language model right now, right, and and you go back in time and you start thinking about your bots that you faced, it's very clear that they had that language model ten years ago. And retroactively, you can figure out when you were getting bought it in your comments. Right? So hold on. My chair keeps pooping down.
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You've got too many gains.
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Yes. Right?
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The eggs in Mexico are cheap. It's in I can get I can do that 36 eggs for, like, $3. Wait for some rancheros? There's they've they've good farms here. They have good meat here.
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So You gotta graduate from the huevos rancheros to the chilaquiles.
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Chilaquiles. There's Dvoriatos.
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Yeah. Divorced eggs? Chilaquiles are where it's at, though, man. I I got My ducks poop out eggs everywhere that they're walking. They just poop them out. Duck eggs are good, dude. Those are so good.
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Yeah. They poop them buggers out all over the place. I'm walking down the driveway today. There's a duck egg laying right in the middle of the driveway waiting to pick it up so we didn't drive over it.
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Yeah. Sell them shits, dude. They're worth more than crack right now. You can fucking turn up on a screen and turn up in a fucking trench coat. Be like, hey, buddy. You wanna buy some eggs? You could, dude. You could. You could do that right now. They're fucking they're expensive. You go to a grocery store lately, dude, they want fucking $14.99 for 18.
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These are duck eggs. They're the good ones. Not even Faberge eggs. Right?
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Right. Well, those are gay eggs. The you you don't want those. You don't want the Faberge ones.
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Do you guys have a good source fucking swishy. Do you guys have a good source of flour, like bread flour?
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Yeah.
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We we grind our own. Okay. Because I got a bread machine, And if if you have good milk, good eggs, good flour, you can really have a completely different level of toast every morning.
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Yeah. Sourdough is not the same when you buy it. If you fresh grind it. Oh my god.
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Yes.
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Well and you're supposed to leave a little bit for the next batch. Right? Yeah. Like, there's a couple of bakeries in San Francisco that have been, you know, recycling the same dough for over a hundred years.
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Yeah. The mother and it gets more sour as it gets older. Uh-huh. So it tastes it tastes even better as it gets as it ages.
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So as men, we're talking about making our own sandwiches?
[00:26:22] Unknown:
Well, this is when my wife makes my sandwiches. That's before you have a wife. After you have a wife, then she makes your sandwiches. Well well,
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why mine makes her own tortillas. Yeah. I
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I I think one of the ways we can set the culture is by having an aesthetic. Right? And so when people eat at your house, they they absorb the aesthetic. Right? So if this is your bread, this is your steak, this is your eggs. Right? And and you can have a very strong impact. You know, instead of pulling someone into a stressful political conversation, if you just fed them duck eggs, they'd be like, woah. Woah. Woah. Like, this is much better for me. Right? So we can start arguing with food by inviting people over. Like, I have a a pizza oven, and I make my own, pizza dough. And when people come over, it's I think the food argument is actually one of the strongest arguments you can make.
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Yeah. I I agree, man. Clean food, it there's nothing like it. I have a a good buddy who, goes by Texas Slim, and he's been on you know, now it's a, like, multiple hundred person mission, but he was on a one man mission to reintroduce Americans to their local rancher. And he has a thing called the beef initiative where everybody involved in the beef initiative has, like, the cleanest beef ever. There's no shots. There's no hormones. There's no nothing. It it's just, you know, pasture grazed cattle, and he freaking kills it. Now it is hands down, like, the best stuff you've ever tasted in your entire life. In fact, GLO, if you're not familiar with the beef initiative, go go fucking go take a look. Okay. Yeah. I I I can't recommend it enough.
And there's probably a rancher near you, and his whole thing is go shake that guy's hand. Have a handshake relationship with the people that grow and produce the food that you can't personally grow and produce on your own, and you're gonna be way better off. Along with that, there's the mantra of change your consumption model, and that is all encompassing. Change what you put into your body, change what you put into your brain, change how you you know, just change your consumption model and make it more localized, make it more serious, make it more productive.
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So okay. So let me add to that. Right? So when you produce a commodity, right, so you guys have my book. Right? So you can you can kinda field me. You can understand who I am through my language, through my art, and as that physical product. Right? Now that's as a writer, but also as a rancher or as a baker or really as an electrician. Right? So if you tear down the wall and you see, you can see the kind of person he is by how he set up his wires. Right? Mhmm. So one of the ways where we can really beat out the globalist is through our labor because our labor will always be higher quality than theirs because they're fake. And so if if people start buying local, they'll feel that labor, better.
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And it incentivizes you to support your community, to actually be an active community member. You know? Not just, you're out there on a fucking island, but you're taking part in the things that help your community thrive.
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Yeah. So that's yeah. That's really what what were what are our topics for are we arguing, or what are we I mean, we can argue if you want, dudes. I I don't know. I don't know your format. I'm I'm I'm following your format.
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You're a returning guest, so you've had a you've had a we've had a debate about, alpha maleness, and now we're just kind of deliberating on, topics that we need to go deeper on and further debate to discover.
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What I would recommend is there's a lot of people that maybe you're not in full alignment with, but you're in relative alignment with. So there's this guy who's following me on Substack, and he's like a a wine merchant in in Sweden. And I I was gonna talk about, like, alchemy and fermentation with him. Right? Or in the manosphere people, let's say we don't fully agree on everything, but it's still an opportunity to discuss things. Right? So I think I think we're kinda segregated into these certain little corners, and it's important to branch out and say, okay.
What can we, talk about? What what topics are, you know, follow your format, which topics don't follow your format, and then you can start getting into this, cross pollination. So I I guess, like, you know, with my book, I was able to hit parts of the manosphere who, let's say, believe in stoicism or believe in, like, a very hard materialism, or in an economic reductivism, right, where they they they talk about, like, cost per fuck with a woman. Right? So by reaching out to them and saying, like, look. Like, maybe agree, maybe we don't agree, but, like, here's some ideas that, emotionally, you you probably don't care about. Right? But let's let's get this cross pollination going.
That that really helped me, because I I think a lot of our core issues, like, no one's really gonna move you on that. Right? So I I I guess that I would say just what I've been doing is I've been reaching out to a lot of people and and mailing my book to a lot of influencers to see if, I could expand my reach. And I think you guys are really, really strong, and you can do the same thing, and build out your network. There's a network theory where every node that you add to your network, there's an exponential value gain. Right?
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So that's So what do you say to shy guys who get embarrassed when their phone rings, and they don't wanna certainly don't wanna talk to other guys, and they just don't wanna be social. And then they're just their social batteries drain, and their whole identity becomes the guy who's just home alone playing video games, reading Reddit forums. Not really associating with other guys, but just, he associates himself with the the loner identity, the hermit identity. Doesn't wanna be hurt by anybody. Just wants to be left alone.
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There's a lot of improvements that you can make that you're just not thinking about. Right? Like, maybe it's like drinking bone broth. Maybe it's having a bread machine. Maybe it's talking to your local rancher. Right? And and, you know, people don't value those things, but you're fundamentally changing who you are through what you consume.
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Right? Are you still using the, the beta male idea calling some men alpha, some beta, some are sigma? Have you continued to use that language as a shorthand for understanding?
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I mean on our end? I I I would say that it like, I have to match my speech to who I'm speaking to. Right? And so if if they speak in those terms, then I should speak in their language. But, you know, once we're kind of in a more conspiratorial world, like, you know, we could say that they obey the ideological state apparatus. Right? We could, you could say that they're a class trader if they're they're pushing the vaccine. Right? So I think you just gotta match your your language, and you you just kinda it's kinda like sometimes when you speak with a southerner, like, you gotta format your sentences differently so that you grow more amenable, to their discourse. Right? So for me, you can see my book. Like, I I'm really interested in in meeting people at their level.
So, like, there's Anthony Dream Johnson, right, who, runs the Manosphere, and he has a very huge reach. And he likes alpha male and beta male, and his audience likes that terminology. Maybe it's simplistic. Right? But, I was able to give them psychoanalysis. I was able to give them economics. I was able to give them mysticism because I I played into their game. So you you gotta you gotta work that format. Right? But, you know, on the other side, some people are really frustrating, and you wanna you wanna attack them. You wanna be like your your beta male. Like, fuck off. Gotcha. You know? I I guess the question I'll expand now is to say with the
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ability for men to learn to be social as a active muscle to exercise their social muscles, to get out to talk to other men, to not go behind the sort of I'm a shy guy. I'm just kind of a lonely guy, kind of rooting in the corner of the shadows and getting men out to talk to other men. You you talk the red pill is all about, you know, dating strategy and talking to women. Is there a strategy for men to go out in the world, hardware stores, grocery stores, just out and about their daily life and acknowledge that other men are living lives and connecting with them on a on a meaningful level? I I I think it's men are really strange in that
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they usually don't relate man to man, unless you're, like, a political extremist. Right? So they usually relate indirectly through an object. Right? So this, meet exchange that you guys are doing. Right? Like, the centers that meet because these maybe these people are a little bit shy or, you know, they're they're meant a few words. Right? They can kinda just talk about the meat or the grilling instead of having all the attention on them.
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It's like when young when young men join Discord servers, usually, communities are on specific games, then they can find other men to play games with. That's sort of what young men do. Once you get to a point where you're like, well, I'm not really an active gamer anymore. I'm a middle aged man. I Uh-oh. Wanna join Discord servers. That's kind of a weird thing.
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Right. So I would say write a book. Right? So, you're really smart, and you could you know, I'm really competitive. I'm a very competitive person, and I I think you are too. And so by writing a book, you can push out a whole bunch of those establishment normies, establishment beta men, beat them at their own game, beat them out on the bookshelf. And, I think, you know, I'm 35. Right? So that's a form of competition, which isn't juvenile. But, like, you know, to me, it feels like a video game. Right? Because, on Reddit and on Substack, writing is very gamified.
Mhmm. So it makes it makes it more fun. It's like a writing video game. Right? So oh, man. My chair's booping me up and down. I think,
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I think men need legitimate peer groups. And we've been told for a very, very long time that either that's gay or that's retarded. And if we don't have a a pressure release, you know, where and sometimes it's like a basketball court. Sometimes it's, you know, jiu jitsu. Sometimes it's fucking just being on the job and going to work. And you get a bullshit with a coworker or whatever while you're in the middle of your task. But if you don't do that and you just fucking swallow it, then the only thing you're gonna be is Bill Burr's dad.
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Oh, I see. I I I think, like, if we go back to, what is it? Quiet Weapons for Secret Wars or the like, let's the Unabomber Manifesto. Right? There's certain text that can really shape the youth and really do a lot of political damage. Right? And so, you know, I'm all for friendship and stuff like that, but I think it's really cool if you could write something that has a cultural impact that gets into the hands of the youth, shifts things. And, you know, the globalists really are bad writers, So it's gonna be very hard for them to pull people out of your train of thought.
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Right? Bro, every time I get on an airplane, I bust out my laptop. I pull up the PDF copy of Industrial Society and its future, and I just scroll it and, like, casually read it and hit an e cig and a fucking weed vape the entire time, and nobody says shit. I'm sitting there in my seat. I don't go to the bathroom like a fucking chump to go take a drag off of anything. I sit there in my fucking seat with Ted Kaczynski's manifesto up on my screen and just casually fucking read and scroll down, and nobody says a word. It's the best way to fly. I can't recommend a better way of being on an airplane than industrial society and its future.
Nobody says shit to you. It's fantastic.
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Have you so Dugan wrote a book on Heidegger, which is actually very readable, from from Radix. And I think you'll like it because Heidegger writes in a deliberately obtuse language. But if you like industrial society in its future, you're gonna like Heidegger. Yeah. Without without his verbal gymnastics that he's playing on you.
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No. Heidegger is fun. Great. Yeah. Fantastic reads.
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So that's I start start a male book club, men's only book clubs. I I would say I mean, I was running a book club Mhmm. Before my book, and we would read hard left and hand hard right literature together. And from there, I was able to develop a a a certain writing ability in my man that I was then able to roll into my book. Right? Because from there, I could choose the best man and then roll it roll them forward. Right? So I I think, I I did a I did a men's book club. I did it on, Sublime Object of Ideology, which is Frodo Marxism, which is, there's just some of that in my book.
And then I did, Julius Fuller's Ride the Tiger, and then we did Bhagavad Gita. Right? So you can provide this very, very cheap education to pull men up. And from there, you're gonna have the requisite labor necessary to, compete in the political space, which I think is very, very exciting. I'm, like, urging you guys, please. Like, do it. Do it. Do it. You know? Like, get get in the boxing ring because I I think you can fuck some people up. And and you'll know when you're fucking people up because, the globalists will start writing, PhDs and master's thesis about you. Like, I've I've three written about me, and and for me, that started when I was 24. Right? So I wasn't as strong of a writer. I wasn't as strong of a thinker. So I think the bar is very low to get him into the ring because most people don't think of it as a ring. Right?
But just get in there. And a lot of these sociology professors are a lot weaker than you think, and they they have a lot of other engagements. So you could
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You're talking writing nonfiction?
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Writing nonfiction.
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Writing fiction with strong male role models?
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I mean, I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, I it it might be fun for you, but I I'm just thinking about, like, you know, I believe that, you know, the eat or be eaten. Right? So the more conflict you can get into, the more you know you're on target. So so get get into some conflict, you know, as a man. I think we need a resurgence
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of hero's journey type literature, and we've gone very, very, very far away from that. I think the hero's journey inspired very young men to be bold and to do things that they wouldn't ordinarily do.
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But then, you know, you need to get that into the hands of those young men, right, which are ADHD Zoomers, which I I have experience with. You you know, don't write for yourself, write for
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the people who need you. Right? So the so the Zoomers now coming up with TikTok and this culture of ephemeral sort of a Skippy toilet memes and stuff where everything is just you look at it, you laugh, and then you move on the next thing, not really sticking with anything. And we're talking about writing books and publishing them in hardcovers, and you can hold it. And this is like a product you made. You can be proud of it. Now there's a lot of, like, the the TikTok ban was was concerning because people felt like their identity, their entire identitarian, personality that they had formed was on TikTok, and now that was gonna be taken away from them. So they felt like this grieving and loss before it even happened, and it was kind of just dangled in front of them, and then it was brought back.
Can you talk about the carrot and the stick a little bit?
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I mean, the pandemic had was the most obvious carrot and stick there. Right? But I I think there's a consumer identity where people know who they are through the commodities that they purchase. But as the economy gets worse and as the middle class gets worse, they they can only buy things with their view time.
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Right. And So in in in dating and, like, early nineties, late nineties, the peacocking and the club life and the extravagant lifestyles, now we're kind of tightening the purse strings, and many men's wallets are, you know, emptier and emptier, and they don't they're not bringing in as much money as they had. They don't have the disposable income. Is there concern among other men about, the remember the hipster movement? Everyone was eating bacon and doing mustache tattoos on their fingers and everything. Now we're kind of in the real, the real tightening of the purse strings where every dollar really counts.
Well, we also have sports betting and cryptocurrency gambling, all these things. So so money is very real, and then it's very unreal. And there's a very confusing identity of, you know, do I dress with gold chains? Do I dress like a rapper? Do I dress like I got a lot of money? Do I spend all the money I have to to dress really well, to impress?
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I would say I would say look for arbitrage opportunities. Right? So here in Mexico, I'm really valuable in ways that I wasn't valuable in The United States. Right? So there's a lot of trading that can happen. And when you have these personal relationships, you can trade your labor. But I just think that the economy is gonna keep sliding down lower and lower and lower, because that's what the globalists want. They're gonna turn off the faucet. So I I guess I guess that. That's for me, what was the question? I feel like I don't wanna pivot too much. It's just about
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male identity tied to a bank account, and it's like there's this idea that you'd as a man, you could get that fuck you money, and then you could do anything you want. And now there's a lot of men who don't have that fuck you money, and they're feeling the, the oppression of the the slavery and the wage slavery. There's a whole neat movement to not employment, education, or training, the HIKI KIMORI movement, the Peter Pan syndrome, the failure to launch, men who are just in their parents' homes and year after year after year, and there's no they don't have an economic game plan figured out?
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I mean, I would say you can find value by increasing liquidity. Right? So the more people see you, the more people can find value. So so I think that's one position, and then you can gain an identity through what you do. Right? So if you're not moving, like, a lot of people killed themselves during the pandemic, right, because they weren't doing anything. So if you build something, if you make something, you're gonna find that value through your labor because the labor not only trans transforms commodities, it also transforms the person performing the labor. Right?
So as long as you're active, like, I I was Exercise. I wasn't I wasn't an effective, writer for a long time. Speaking of Jazzercise, you know, I worked as a personal trainer for a long time, and the group fitness, person wasn't there. So I I had to teach a whole bunch of middle aged women to Jazzercise. And it was it's it's really difficult because you have to be really upbeat, and you and I have the same kind of cadence in our speech, and you have to be like, let's go. You know, you have to, like, really,
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really do that. So So now we're talking Charisma on command.
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I I think, like, you know, there's a lot of overweight middle aged women, and if you get drafted to do that, I think you should just perform the role. If someone needs you to do something, it's in within your moral, boundaries, you should just go for it, even if it's a jazzercise instructor. When before you were doing rehab and bodybuilding. Right? So I think that's
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Yeah. I I'm still thinking about young men who are you know, they turn 18. They start a YouTube channel. I just saw a guy who's showing up in everyone's recommendations, and he has, like, this, like, a thirty minute video talking about his pornography. He actually started watching porn at, like, you know, 12 years old or something. And six years later, he's making a video about it on YouTube, and it's like,
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dude, you really wanna you really wanna put that stuff online at Well 18 years old. I mean, let's let's talk about pornography. Right? So what's interesting about pornography I keep singing lower and lower, like The United States.
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It's
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There's really not that much media being made. Right? So if you look at Netflix, Netflix is gone. Hollywood, they got rid of all of their creative perverts. There's nothing there. There's nothing on television. Right? But the porn industry is still creating culture. You know, I'm not for it, but it is a a cultural form. Right? And so the pornographic industry right now is the strongest cultural form.
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Right. Because I'm seeing this 18 year old guy, and then next to him is a girl in a bikini doing a dance video, and then Bia Buffa is a girl with her top falling off. And here's this guy in the middle on YouTube thumbnails just being like, I wanna be a no fapper. I I can't I can't
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I can't I can't live like this anymore. He's Hey, real quick, fellas. I'm sorry. I have to dip out. I have to go do, another show. This is gonna stay open, all that kind of stuff. But,
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yeah, you guys you guys rock. For your IRL meetup April fourth.
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Yeah. We're we're meeting in person, just outside of Nashville, Tennessee. Not this weekend, but next weekend. It's gonna be live music, live podcast, live comedy, camping, great food, and it's $90 for the entire in a second. Like, we're we're fucking we're we're giving it away because I have a blue collar audience. No.
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But yeah. For that to buy a ticket? ThirdEyeCarnival.com.
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Perfect.
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Fourth of July. That's gonna be a a big one.
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Dude, we're gonna shoot fireworks off the roof of a 7,000 square foot art gallery and probably some guns. We're there's probably gonna be guns involved. I can't promise that, but I can promise that. Yeah. Fireworks
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in, Pueblo, California
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celebrating the fourth of July like Americans know how I can do a bunch of things really good, man, but one thing I can do even better than the things I do really good is throw a party. I know how to throw a party. We got this. Show up for it. It'll be fun. But, yeah, gentlemen. And, GLO, thank you for for being back on, man. I I appreciate you. I appreciate what you have to bring to the conversation. It's always a pleasure to talk to you.
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Yeah. And if if you don't have a copy of my book, send me your address. I'll mail you one.
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I'll I'll drop my address in the private chat right now Okay. Perfect. Before I split. Will do. Yeah. We've got
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a lot more to talk about, especially that, that loser identity that a lot of a lot of guys end up finding themselves in. Maybe they're raised by a single mom who wants to keep them in their place. A lot of young guys are struggling in the world today to find out how they can take up space and not have to apologize for it.
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I think I think a lot of identities are, manufactured top down. Right? And a lot of times, people are gonna find themselves between identities. And so right now, we're kind of in a weird latency in between zone. Right? And so, you know, not everyone reads books and figures out their own identity. Not everyone does their own digging. And so, like, the Liberals right now, they're pretty dormant under the Trump administration. Right? So they're in a dormancy period, but what I really believe is gonna happen is they're gonna pump up the war with Iran at some point. And then that loser component, they'll have an opportunity to go be a hero.
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And that's, that's a point you might wanna stop and focus on a little bit. This idea of conscription or needing some discipline and sending some rowdy kids to boot camp. Remember in the nineties where they'd have this talk shows where the the kids wouldn't listen to their parents, and the parents would send them in a boot camp, and they'd have to go through military training? Well, you know, maybe we're in a Weimar period. Right? And there's a a Weimar Germany period, and then
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you you saw those ads. I don't know if you saw them by the German government, was asking their young white males, would you defend Germany? And so they people are hungry for an identity, but you have to be careful that who's gonna be feeding you your identity. Right? And I think, kind of to go back to my previous point, people like us need to start creating and feeding people identities, alternative identities, that let's say, those people with less agency than us can identify. We need to start becoming thought leaders. And the the stronger thought leaders we act as, the less men are gonna be pulled into globalist, you know, war with Iran or World War three or world, you know, war with China.
There's this book, behind me. It's called, Imperium by, Francis Parker Yockey. It's, like, probably one of the best alt right books. There there was a a Hollywood, like, Netflix, film called Imperium with, the Harry Potter actor. And, basically, it's some guy who met with a a older white nationalist and who radicalized him with this book, Imperium. So I was like, yeah. Fuck yeah. I'm like, I'm gonna go buy Imperium. It's it's somewhere up there. And so, anyways, the point that Yaki makes is that, World War one and World War two are are European civil wars. Mhmm. And a lot of the the white population was obliterated in that time and a lot of what do we what do we have?
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Quarantine is when you restrict the movements of sick people. Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.
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Somebody in the chat was asking about my shirt. I wasn't trying to interrupt you. Oh, okay. Yeah. So
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so, you know, us, the middle class, like a lot of our brothers, could get obliterated, in a Israel Versus Iran War or a US versus China war. And I I I hope that I could redirect those men away from those meat grinders, because Europe lost a lot of its cultural heritage.
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And it's hard though. Some some of these, you know, rust belt towns, Detroit, you know, lost their their industry. America not having industry. A lot of young men not able to find entry level positions, and then military recruiters come knocking and have money and bonuses and, you know, bribes to to get men out to basic training. Do you have a hard firm stance to say no, man? No no no way, Jose? Or is there some value for for young men who don't have other choices, could take the opportunity, could use it to their advantage, get in, get out?
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I, you know, this whole, who's the the current secretary of defense? This Pete Hedgeworth or something? He's like he has, like, amazing hair. He's like a very handsome man, and, he has a big knight's cross tattoo. Oh, yeah. And and you can see that he's being used to bait those men to their death.
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Well, women too are encouraged to join in You know? For Dunity.
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So, I mean, look, I understand the Cold War. You know? Maybe if you're fighting against communism or fighting for communism, like, I get it. But When the only thing on your resume is Call of Duty games,
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first person shooters.
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I think you can be a welder. I think you can get into some kind of trade. I think there's a lot of good entry points there. I think as a kid, you could fix air conditionings or something. Right? You could pave roads. You could work with your hands. Right? So I because it's we're we're really getting into those end times. Right? I don't know if you know, but the the Roman Catholic church, like, they have their last portrait of their last pope up. You know, the pope after this pope is supposed to be the last pope. So they're they're gonna start really, I mean, you know, with the pandemic, like, how they really started ramping that up. That's why with my book, like, I I was really trying to push the manosphere crowd into understanding symbolism
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by packing it on every single page. Why didn't you jump in on this election cycle? Can I ask? In in in the
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In the last time, I had really good access. Right? Because through the red pill, I I had privileged access into Donald Trump. Then they deleted all my accounts, and then I I just had no entry point. And and I think, you know, I'm really paranoid and suspicious of things, but rightly slow, I think they had a lot of these fake influencers. Right? So if you look at Donald Trump junior, whose, like, former wife is basically a prostitute, They had a lot of these fake right influencers just taking up those slots. Like, I I'm happy Trump won, but there's there's just a lot of suspicious stuff. Or, like, Elon Musk, if you look at a lot of the symbolism, like, he wears, like, antichrist stuff. Right?
And it it's a lot of masonic, like, weird movements, where, like, he has transgender children. Right? So it's it's already too much. Like, you're you're really crossing threshold of, like he he's like he's like at, like, Madonna or Lady Gaga levels of, like, you know, dog whistling. Right? So or this Pete Pete Hedgeworth,
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was The tech Seth. Hedge Seth. I'm not He wants to signals on the signal group chats talking about wars.
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And so the those Houthis are an Iran proxy. So what they could do is they could start bombing those sand people, and then from there, work their way up into Iran. Right? Because I'm sure, the Iranian coup's force is probably running them behind the scenes. Right? So you start bombing Houthis, and then you're gonna bomb Iranian nationals, and then you're gonna start ramping up. Gonna and then and then you'll have your greater Israel, and then you'll get the rate of the integrate. You just it's just gonna ramp up like that. Right? So I I would say learn a trade and kinda start moving up out of that because you could be pulled into a complete meat grinder of biblical proportions.
So, yeah, that that you know that Albert Pike three world wars? Mhmm. That's that's really my premise here on this one. Oh, look. We both have huge mugs. Look at this.
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So I like the old school steins because it keeps the flies and stuff out.
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I'm clumsy, so I'll knock every cup over, and the stein just sits there. You know? Yeah. Very deliberate. So yeah. So I I I I would say it's just really important to just try and pivot away and be really, really mindful of what is the propaganda.
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What's the propaganda of Pete Heggseth in a group chat? They say signal is supposed to be, you know, more secure, but now they're telling us that it's really not that secure after all in human error. The propaganda seems to be, you know, shut your mouth and and don't, don't use digital communications to organize anything. There
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was a guy from the Red Pill, and he was a former marine. And then from there, he worked for, like, an NSA type deal. And now he's hooked up with a lot of Manas for people. And he's like, yeah. Telegram isn't secure. You should use Signal. And then I was like, like, I was like, okay. Like, thanks, buddy.
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That's we're we're talking encrypted chat. PGP, pretty good encryption, that sort of thing. And with Telegram, it's become more of a social network naturally if you're gonna be posting in public chats. That's that's public stuff. A Telegram for a time had direct encrypted chats where it would be like, if I'm messaging you, my phone to your phone, it would only show up in that one spot, and then you'd set it to delete the message and it'd burn out to read type of thing. But due to human error and, just convenience when you get on signal and you log in to signal on your phone and you log in into your computer, you can be logged in to multiple locations and it shows a message on all these different screens. Apparently, one of the guys invited a journalist because he had a journalist in his address book on his phone, and I was trying to invite somebody. Happen. So somehow, this journalist gets pulled in and just doesn't say anything and just in the group chat, forgets about it, goes back, checking old messages. Oh, there's new messages in this group chat I got invited to, and they started screenshotting it and and gathering information because they're a journalist. That's what they do. They gather information, that sort of thing.
Is there is there a reason to be paranoid in 2025? I mean, you're a red pill, celebrity legend. Do you still feel that level of, like, I need to zip my lip a little bit?
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I mean, I I I never zipped my lip at all. And then, during the twenty sixteen election, Democrats were calling me, threatening to kill me. And, like, I lived in a roach infested apartment, so I'd I'd no reason to fear, like, life or death. I was like, fucking kill me. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I I I I had nothing. Like, I I was living, like, chicken breast to chicken breast. Right? So I I didn't give a fuck. But then I think now they're shifting, and it's it's hard to say where they're shifting. I'm really you really don't see that hard censorship, so maybe they're building a database.
Like, Twitter's really suspicious because Elon Musk has huge Air Force contracts. So if if he works with the Air Force to launch satellites, he I'm sure he works with their intelligence arm. Right? Mhmm. So Twitter's really suspicious about what they, upregulate. And then it's I think there's a certain cooling right now where you can kinda do whatever you want. But once we start getting closer to the war, you're just gonna start seeing more, censorship again. Like, what's what's the next big sigh up? Right? Like, you know, you can shit on Ukraine if you want. You can shit on the pandemic right now. All the ethnic stuff you could do, all the feminism stuff. The everything's flying right now because there's really nothing to disrupt.
But, so I I think it's it's kind of a a fake opening, and then they're gonna close everything back up. That's if if I had to predict and usually my predictions are pretty pretty good historically.
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So pattern recognition, the the freezing of files and the thawing of files and opening up the JFK files to remind us that presidents can be assassinated.
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I I guess. I mean, you know, he didn't let Israel build their, nuclear weapons. Right? So but I think we already knew that. I think most people already knew it. It it was I think most people knew. But
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the other topic, I'd written down was old men who who grow soft, kind of these punk rock bands who then sell out at a later age. The idea that, the boomers are to blame for everything. The boomers don't care about Zoomers. I mean Do we respect our elders? Are there old Which elders? Wise men that that, retain their respect and don't sell out and don't sell out their their children and grandchildren?
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I think this whole real estate thing is a big problem. Mhmm. But I think I think land? I it it it depends on what you mean by selling out. Right? Like, so at some point, everyone has a price. Right? And so I think like, let's say Alex Jones. Right? Like Think for yourself. I think with Alex Jones, like, I think he got nine eleven really well. He did a lot of stuff well. Right? Right. But at some point, I think he sold out. Right? And
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Or was replaced. You can't tell me that the Alex Jones today that you're seeing remotely looks like Alex Jones. I mean, I understand people age. I'm I'm fucking near 50. I I I also have aged. You don't even resemble that dude.
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I think a lot of people it's it's kinda like being, like, an athlete, right, or being a boxer. Like, you you have your career run. You do what you you can. And then at some point, they're you're gonna get an offer. You're gonna get shot. But either way, you sell out or they kill you. You you've done as much as you could. Right? So I'm trying to think of, like, the big the big influencers. Like, because some people were always to sell out or, like, okay. Like, Jordan Peterson wasn't always sell out. Right? Like In the right hand space?
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Yeah. Jordan Peterson, probably, Ben Shapiro.
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Ben Ben Shapiro was always an asset. You know? Yeah. Yeah. So so there's no Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan for sure. Right? So, I mean, I I would say with someone like with Joe Rogan, like, he had good comedy. He did a lot of stuff. He interviewed some cool people. And then at some point, he sold out. And, you know, when you sell out, there's there's your friends, there's your family, and you could do a lot of good with that sell out money. Right? So you can't it's like a Navy Seal. Like, you can only be in the fight for so long until your knees are done and your elbows are done, and your your ears are ringing. Right? Like, you're mortal, so there's only so much fight you have in you.
You know, I'm thinking of a certain manosphere figure that might promote my books. I'm not gonna say say his name. He's very big. But at at some point, you know, you you you did what you could on those issues, and, at some point, you gotta call it quits. Right? So so that, or or you could be like Yockey, who, took cyanide pills in FBI custody. So I guess that's and those are your two options. Either either you're reporting on the wrong stuff and you don't matter.
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Well, that that is a that is a bit of a gloomy topic, but it's it's worth, discussing, the male suicide rates. Do we see that number getting better? Hashtag mental health awareness, suicide hotlines, these type of things. Are are men who need who need a little bit of a relief in a conversation to kinda walk them off? Are they getting are they getting that help?
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I think if you're getting that veteran's disability money, maybe move to Mexico, get yourself a senorita, and and just just call it quits over there, you know, or over here. So
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What is superior to Mexico, to The United States outside of, the cost of living?
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There are more social culture
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so that we as European Yeah. Yeah. We're we're we're white. They're not they're not. They're happy. Ever what that was a lesson I learned by the time I was say by the time I was 17. I was working with my, my ex father in law's, construction crew, and there's six white guys. And we're literally in a almost in a fist fight because there's five spots in a Winnebago, in the Winnebago we were in. And that meant two of us had to share a bed. That was fist fighting. We got up the next morning, and there was, like, 10 Mexicans rolled out the back of a fucking, out of a pickup with a camper shell on it. You're like, the fuck?
How many of you were in there?
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So, you know, my Mexican girlfriends would pull me into, let's say, salsa dancing or bachata and stuff like that. Right? And, like, I think as white men, we get into our moods. Right? And and they can pull you out into a social environment, and they can contact shift you, and they can integrate you into a different society. Right? So here in The US, you're seen as a radical or as an outsider. Right? You're treated like that. In Mexico, you're just a white guy. And you're just a white guy, and so no one's attacking you for being far right or anything like that. You're just a white guy, and you can just be a white guy drinking beer. You can just be a white guy doing bachata. You could just it's kind of like a soft reset where you don't have to give up your identity, but now you're just a white guy in Mexico. Right?
So it's kind of like a a gringo bailout that you could do, where you're you're social enough, but you don't give up any of your online identity that you you gained. Right? So I think that's the big advantage. Here, like, there's a a beautiful ocean. You can go fishing here. But I think it's, you know, being pulled into Latina things and fishing and nature, it could pull you out of your your house and, you know, a lot of European writing, like, let's say, once again, Yockey or my book, right, is is very negative. It's I I think I speak the truth, but it's very negative, and that stress is bad for you. And sometimes you need a happy Latina to just pull you out of it, before you get into your self imposed spiral.
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Do you get a lot of sunshine in Mexico year round?
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So, I mean, tacos and beer can fix a lot of things. Right? So Is Yankee a person? Francis Parker Yawkey.
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Author of Imperium?
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Author of Imperium. Looking for the book. Can't find oh, here it is. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I I apologize for missing a bunch of the conversation.
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Out in the mountains here, I live deep out in the mountains, and fuckheads from the city get dogs, and then they don't fucking then they don't take care of them, and then they just dump them off out in the mountain and think that these dogs are I don't know what the fuck they think that is gonna happen, but these dogs end up going feral. And they're starving, and they just killed one of my alpacas, so I had to go deal with that. So I apologize for that. And and so I I missed a lot, and I apologize
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for for making you go back over things and and Oh, it's fine. Like that. So, anyway, so okay. You're gonna like this book right here, Imperium. Like, you can tell by the cover that you're gonna like this book. Right? Francis Parker Yockey, it's it's a combination of Spangler and Evola, and white nationalism. Let's let's just be honest with ourselves. And, he he is oh, let's see if I can fit it back in here or not. He he, ironically, post World War two, takes a pro Soviet position as a white nationalist because he says that the Soviet Union is a better defender of European identity than NATO,
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which is completely insane at the time. And Yeah. At the time, it is, especially after the the the the Bolshevik revolution. I mean, that's really weird to say.
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Right. But
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we're we're tiptoeing into that whole, Orthodox, the Russian Orthodox Church, and that sort of identity that we're seeing white American men being tempted to dabble in?
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Well, I think the the Warsaw regime the Warsaw Pact regime really froze the culture in the nineteen fifties, and there was a freezing. Whereas if you look at the American occupied governments, they they progressed. But so sorry. What what was the statement?
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Well, you're talking about this post Soviet Union stance from, the author of Imperium, Shakti, and I'm asking you about your experience with young men post twenty twenty who are dabbling in Orthodox Christianity.
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It's a larp. Like, they it's a larp. And I I think it's good for people to explore religion. I think that's positive, but a lot of the right likes, dressing up. And, if they find their religion
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structure, the discipline of it, it appeals to people who have been free range children allowed on federal access to the Internet from the earliest age. And now they're they're seeking,
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community to have I think I think what's good with Wait, man. At the earliest stage, most people thought the Internet was just kitten videos. Like, that's literally what people talked about posting on the Internet.
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I think what's good with Orthodox is, you know, who are the big bearers of the Orthodox faith, like Armenians, Russians, Eastern Europeans.
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Oh, my point is with this this identity, I'm I'm struggling to understand how a white guy in the Middle America is now drawn towards more of a Soviet Union state religion orthodox thing. And then it's like, well, the problem seems to be a misplaced identity, and the white American guy, the the gringo guy, a white guy who is starting a podcast, the bro culture, the the white men in America are so confined into a box so that they don't have any culture. They're just white. They're just white, bro. They don't have any culture. And we say, well, there you know, there's there's a German, there's Swedes, you know, there there's always type of people that are white, but they're there's so much more to that. And so them to reject their the the the religion of their fathers and forefathers and grandfathers who who built America and built the church and built the communities. And now they're saying, well, the Protestant church is garbage. I'm throwing that out, but I'm seeking this sort of foreign exotic religion.
I
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I think okay.
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So We're we're trying to start a beef with them. We're trying to get some some time there. Good fights with the ortho bros. Okay. I Well, we're attempting to. Mostly, they're a bunch of chicken shits. They really like to argue against girls and incels and stuff. And and and, like, dudes that are super beta, but they don't themselves, like, they don't wanna fight with anybody that can fight. It would They they seem to be taking up a large,
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proportion of the Okay. So called manosphere. So young men online is that they they maybe they see Jordan Peterson, they wash the penis, and they get into a tape guy, and then, like, glass garbage. The ocean docks?
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No. Jordan Peterson isn't orthodox. Is he like a Protestant? He's Protestant. He's Protestant for sure.
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So I would tell me somehow, western Christian identity thing, but I don't know. He talks about Moses a little bit, old testament stuff,
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logos and and stuff. Well, that's yeah. He's definitely got the whole Jew agenda going on. Not not anything against you, though. Judeo Christian. That's part of why he's so old testament with it. Yep.
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Like, he's definitely pushing that agenda. Okay. So okay. So there's a couple things. So with with with the Orthodox people, right, With the Orthodox people, I think they're looking for European identity, and they're gonna just get it where they can get it. Right? Like, they're just so starved. Like, when you're just so hungry, you're just gonna you're just gonna get it where you can get it. So that's the vacuum that they get sucked up in. There's a vacuum. And if that vacuum is filled with Constantinople, Byzantium
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It's like Roman Empire stuff.
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It's East Roman Empire stuff. Right? So so you they get they get it where they can get it. Right? And I I don't think they're theologically equipped for any kind of debate. Like, if you're like, let's say, I come to Mexico and I'm starving, I'm just gonna eat tacos because that's what's just there. Okay. Right? Yeah. So I I don't think you'll you're ever gonna get into debate with them because he's in a vacuum, and he needs to fill that vacuum. And a lot of that Protestant church has been commercialized. And, that
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It's kind of this built in identity that welcomes new converts. So if you're, ortho curious, there's a Discord server you can join. You can you can join some Zoom meetings and things, and you can hang out with other men online and, yeah, have discipleship groups and bible studies under the orthodox
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umbrella. So I you know, that's fine for them. With regards to Jordan Peterson. Right? Mhmm. So he's under the Ben Shapiro umbrella. And so Ben Shapiro, in my eyes, is a a state sponsored actor, and that's where the money comes in. Right? And so he has to pay he has to show them that, hey. I'm going to respect your, let's say, agenda. Right? But what's strange about Jordan Peterson is he put like, on one hand, he's underneath, Ben Shapiro.
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Right? Yep. And he's he peacocking with that, suit. He's got the two faced Was that in the Batman suit?
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Right. But on the other hand, he pushes Solzhenitsyn, who is, you know, rightly or wrongly is anti Jewish. Right? So it's it's strange. You know? I
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Okay. You said since since you said that, I I will say that it's quite obvious in a lot of the bit shoot conspiracy video theory realm of things where people start waking up. They take the red pill. They wanna know what the truth is, and then they get funneled into this. Look at those noses. Look at those tiny hats. And then these men can become obsessed obsessed with being against The hats. This
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group of people that are to blame for all of their problems and all of that. So okay. So to comment on that. Right? The the people who are really in charge are, the black nobility, which is the Catholic church has far more money than organized Judaism by far. Right? And the reason why Christianity was pushed on pagans was so that they could be, conquered and brought into the fold. Originally, Rome wanted to make a deal with the Jews and use the Jewish religion to conquer the pagans, but the Jews said, build this temple, and Rome said, no. Go fuck yourself. And so then they took an offshoot of Judaism Christianity and used it to try and bring these violent northern tribes that Balderson is a descendant of into the fold like that. Right?
So, We're angry. Right. So so they needed they needed that. Right? Now, so that's one line. Concurrently, there was a split within Judaism in in 1666 between mainline Judaism and satanic Sabatine Judaism, which which is the precursor of Illuminism. Right? So when when you start when you start talking about, like like, the blood libel and all of that stuff, yes, that was happening, but it was happening underneath Sabatianism. Because if you dissect, the Old Testament, you really look into the Old Testament, you can find a lot of those Babylonian practices, and you can reconstruct the religion.
So there's there's Moses, and he goes up against a, a sorcerer called, Balam who, gains his, powers by getting sodomized by a donkey. That's the worst way to gain powers. That's that's Nobody wants to do that one. He he did that one, and he got a lot of powers off of that. Right? So you could you could read the the Old Testament in a way. You could read it in its Aramaic form, and through that, reconstruct the the rituals.
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So I I gotta ask. So did Moses get his power from biting off the tips of little babies' penises and then sucking them? Maybe.
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Maybe.
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You know?
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Like, I mean, I I both sides were doing some pretty fucked up stuff. I I think the donkey thing, that one's really horror that's horrifying. Yeah. So so there's there's the donkey thing on one side. Right?
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But, you know, with Moses is really brutal. He's a brutal person because, everyone who constructed the golden calf, he instructed them to be, killed. Right? So Moses comes from he was raised as Egyptian nobility, and he has the brutality of, their their upper class. Right? He's he's a really you know, I don't wanna categorize anyone by modern standards. But so so regardless, so underneath Sabbatean Sabbatean Judaism or Sabbatean post Judaism, using the Old Testament, you can reconstruct, like, Baal worship, and you can reconstruct those rituals, and you can then go do them.
And so the big heresy of Judaism is Sabatianism, which Jews don't wanna talk about. And then that later merged with the Catholic church or parts of the Catholic church. And so let's if you go into the super Orthodox Jews, a lot of them won't acknowledge the state of Israel, and they won't acknowledge, Zionism. They'll say Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. Why? Because they know that Zionism
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One's a religion and one's a nation.
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Right. But that that nation is built off of Sabbatine Judaism, and it's built off of Freemasonry. So there's a fight. So a lot of let's say, if you look at very orthodox Jews, a lot of them are secretly anti Zionist, which,
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So are we talking about a dialectic here? We have one group that's pro something and then another against that. Another group that pushes against that is that functioning to create this new synthesis of ideas. That's a for group and against group, and then they push and pull, and they move history this way?
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The well, I I was gonna say that this state of Israel is then going to be used to trigger Albert Pike's third World War. And and when you read Albert Pike, he's very clear that they are going to, like, snuke each other and obliterate everyone. So, I mean, this is my opinion. I'm I'm setting text. Maybe I'm not the best text cider, but I think that's that's the game. These are ideas we're familiar with. And then, you know, if you look they like sacrifices. Right? So if they could sacrifice the entire state of Israel in a giant nuclear explosion,
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then they could be like, okay. They like to build towers, and they like to tear down towers. Building and constructing.
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So so then on the other side of that, they're gonna say, okay. We'll see how bad religion is. It's time for our new world order, Luciferian religion. And then they're gonna come back, and then they're gonna go implement their stuff. So, you know, like, let's say the the protocols of the elders of Zion, those are used by Zionist Jews to attack Orthodox Jews. So so stuff like that is used by secular Jews to attack religious Jews. So there's there's Jew fights.
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There's infighting amongst, Christian denominations too. But it's
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Israel will,
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There's there's Christian Zionism as well. There's There's Christian Zionism. Christian Zionism.
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That one's pretty heavy. In fact, given what you're saying, that might be heavier than the Jewish Zionism.
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It's I mean, there's Jews for Jesus. So it's just this very confusing sort of, well I mean come from, but they're confusing. They're fighting messianic Jews. Is that what they call those ones?
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I who? Did you ever discuss the Jewish position on Jesus?
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I I know I'm, like, really step stepping on all the landmines. You know, you might be surprised by this, but I don't we don't have a a plethora of Jews coming up to talk to us.
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Okay. Well well, so so Jesus and I'm gonna I'm gonna try to be respectful. I think I'm gonna be respectful. Dude, I'm not a Christian, bro. Okay. Well, I got some point I had some point
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Marcus is in the flying spaghetti monster
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No. The the the the guy with the pillars.
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Oh, right. Right. Right. And so The hair guy? The hair guy? The
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hair model. And and so he's part of an aesthetic aesthetic sect where he can't cut his hair and he's not supposed to have sex. And, back in the day, there were three sects of Jews. There's Pharisees Oh, so he was just cock strong? Wait. It it's I get it. It's it's like it's like a mystical Judaism. Right? So so there's the Pharisees. There's the Sadducees, which are Hellenized Jews. Mhmm. They're kinda moderate Jews who who adopted a lot of Greek customs. And then there's, the the Nazarites. So that's that's step one. Step two is, you know, some people are gonna push the virgin birth.
Okay? That's their religious belief. But the Jewish belief is that Jesus' father was not Jewish. And so he he wasn't Jewish. And because he wasn't
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Jewish But what if his mother's a Jew, he's Jewish. Right, though? Isn't that through the matriarchal bloodline?
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If his mother's a Jew, he's Jewish. But because he's not full Jewish, he doesn't have the full rights of a full Jew.
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Interesting. Back back then. Interesting.
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Back then. Right? Because you have to understand that when you go look at the Old Testament, there are there are people who are half Egyptian and half Jewish. So they have an Egyptian father and a Jewish mother. And right in the beginning of Exodus, there's a child who's half Egyptian who rebels, and and he's put to death. So so back back then, they they distinguished in the same way, like, you know, how, Hitler had his distinctions of, like, full Jew, you know, that whole thing? Yeah. Back then, they had that.
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I mean, you know, all cultures were racist. I mean, it makes sense. I mean, it makes sense. I that that,
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So so he lived this tragic life because he's half Jewish. He doesn't have have his full rights. He wanted to marry. I'm just kind of repeating what what I was told. And and he's kind of held at this lower level than everybody else. And it's it's really frustrating, because he knew a lot. So so that's that's step one. And then step two is there's some kind of Kabbalistic magic that he knew He was high up spiritually, so he had some kind of access. Right? And so there's
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Yeah. There's the whole there's the whole route where he's actually, a Gnostic, and then, he's actually kinda involved in the same cult that, John the Baptist was, and that cult actually still prefers John the Baptist because Jesus went out and gave out secrets he wasn't supposed to give out when he figured out that they were probably gonna, they were probably gonna delete him. He started just spewing out these secrets. And so the the cult that, followed that, they have switched over to John the Baptist is their head guy instead of Jesus, but they're supposedly teaching the same things. So there's
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powerful magical rituals. There's a book you can get it. It's called, like, Seferha Razim. It's a book book of secrets, and you can just get it. And so in that book, there are rituals that are similar to what Jesus performed, as stated in the the New Testament. Right? So so there there's a disagreement book again? Sephar Harazim. Mhmm. Sephar means book. Harazim. And and there's there's a there's a translation of it. And so, you're gonna be finding, Babylonian or Judeo Babylonian magic of, like, how to summon a wind spirit, how to, imbue life into a clay figure, stuff like that.
But so so Homunculus. Homunculus. Yeah. So you're doing that. There's lions' hearts. There's there's chickens. There's just it's either Babylonian or Judeo Babylonian magic from what I understand. So so he he's certainly doing something, and and there is a disagreement between him and his rabbinic teachers because he's he's doing too much. And, you know, as someone who's, I guess, biracial.
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So so so he's not having a problem in the occult circles. He's having a problem in the religion circles, the the official religion part. I don't think there's
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I don't think there is a a distinction.
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There's not a distinction at the time? They're just openly mixed? It's not two separate groups?
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The the I think the high priests know the occult stuff. They just do it secretly, But it's the same people. Sure. And and the purpose of the Jewish temple is that when you do your high level meditation to bring down the spirit of God, you need to purify yourself. So by with the red heifer, you can purify yourself to a high level so that you can rise up spiritually, a lot higher
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without doing the same significance of the red heifer. Why would I don't I don't know. There's
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in Hebrew letters, like, red heifer is gonna jamatria into something. It's gonna, you know, it's gonna look like that. So so he's doing rituals. He's doing stuff. He's doing it out in the open. And then on top so there's there's kind of like a esoteric antagonism. There is a political antagonism. There is a racial cultural antagonism that's going on. And then on top of that, there's the Roman state, which is suspicious of Jews because every once in a while, Jews flip out and start stabbing people and go completely wild. Right? Like, the Maccabean revolt, it started because they they told, they told a guy to bow at the temple Of Zeus.
He did. And as soon as he did, another guy ran up and stabbed him. And then and then they had, like, a a big stab off, and then that rolled off into a big civil war. Right? So the the Romans were like, okay. Like That will happen. That will happen. You it's like a prison prison stabbing. It's like a it's just that whole thing. So so there's political pressure. There is, theological issues, and and they and that causes a lot of a lot of problems. And so so that and then so so that's the first issue. Right? The next issue is because he's doing high level magic and he doesn't have access to the temple in terms of purification, he's gonna be in touch with unclean forces.
So if if you if you get in good with the Orthodox, they'll say, look, like, he was a sorcerer. And if you're a sorcerer, at some point, you will die and you will pay the price. So so it they they call him a sorcerer. And so so that's happening. But beyond that, you have to understand that Romans hate Jews, because Jews keep revolting and killing Romans and this whole thing. Right?
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So A revolutionary spirit they have. It's a revolutionary spirit.
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So they use Christianity to then attack these rebellious Jews. Right? So, you know, there's if you look at Christian literature, there's a lot of stuff against Jews. If you look at Jewish literature, there's a lot of stuff against Christians. So both sides write negative things about each other. Right? But and that's that's always how it is. Right? I'm not trying to necessarily defend anyone. I just wanna try and give a neutral
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thing. We were talking about this because so many people today
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don't have an identity outside of a religious identity. Them on the log pile. I just don't want them on the log pile. Sorry, guys.
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Yeah. So
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trying to get animals to safety.
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Yeah. So so I would say that there is the Christian religion.
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Mhmm.
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But underneath that Christian religion is the Roman religion, And they know their rituals really, really well, and they're doing high level magic. And when you look at their symbolism, you could see that they they know a lot more than they're telling you. Right? And in some Catholic churches, you know, they're gonna say, oh, that's Saint Paul. That Saint Paul looks a lot like Zeus. You know? Or, you know, they're gonna be like, oh, that's the Virgin Mary, but it it kinda looks like Ishtar. You know? And now we're now you're in Venus worship. And if you know your magic, you can call upon Venus and do all sorts of stuff there. Right?
So there's really a lot of stuff happening, and they they know a lot. And the the Romans confiscated a lot of high level Jewish magical texts. So and the Vatican has those texts. So there's a lot of games being played, and, I I I guess that's my point. There's a lot of games being played. Don't be pulled into any narratives. No side is a % good. Do a lot of reading. And, This is this is an answer to the question of
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should young men join the military? Should young men join the specific church, maybe Orthodox or otherwise? Should young men get involved with organizations? Should how do they find their identity? And this vacuum just sucks them right up. It's it's a treacherous path.
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Right? And you have to understand that all a lot of these magical rituals, they need blood because that is the ultimate like, it's the ultimate fuel source. And without properly constructed temples, you could just do some kind of blood sacrifice. You could kill people. You know, you could do what whatever the Illuminati are doing. Right? They could they're doing their cannibalism, and that could really just kinda start up the engine. Right? And so it's you know, there's a lot of missing children. There's a lot of stuff like that. Right? There's a lot of stuff happening behind the scenes. You know, there's there's the Moloch effigy.
There's the pentagram that's built into the Washington DC. So there's really, really a lot of stuff. And I know there's stupid astrology. I know there's stupid alchemy. With my book, I'm I'm doing my best to build a, understanding of religious symbolism and and understand, like, what is what is Mars? What does Mars look like? You know? What what is what are these Saturn conjunctions?
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So people can problem is part of the problem is I don't know that there's good information out there. I I just don't. Like myself, I I practice lab alchemy and, like, Mars and Venus. You've been talking about both of these two things. So if I look and and and as an occultist, as above so below is a fairly common rule that we all basically understand. Stop, Scott. And so if I look at the human body, what we have is in the heart of polarity. And one of these sides, it draws in oxygen. It pushes out hydrogen. The other side draws in hydrogen, it pushes out oxygen. And so this this whole system is what's trying to make the moves in your body to move the oxygen back and forth. Now oxygen is is your destructive element.
So when you oxidize something, you're breaking it down. You're going to war. And then on the flip side, hydrogen puts things together. So we have a duality in between these two things. And to and in my in my opinion, they're actually one thing, and it's the two sides of it just like the heart. You wouldn't call half the heart one thing and half the heart another thing. It's your heart, and it works in conjunction with each other. And so you you don't find anything like that in any way, shape, or form in any of the occult books.
And I I don't There's a there's quite a few actually things that I would completely disagree with that are, normally used by a cultist and normally thought. And I honestly, myself, from my perspective, the Theosophical Society in that era was probably the the worst people for the occult. They also had a wing in the Catholic church, which you, keep bringing up. And, they turned and they twisted a cult. And, basically, anything anything that we're getting now is from that era, and it it's it's all real garbage. And I don't know how a person finds the, you know, something else. I would
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say that you should start looking in Aramaic, and you should start looking in Hebrew. And what's good about Hebrew, it's a very limited language. It's, like, 10,000 words. And then you also have Google Translate. Right? And so you could you could start thinking of, like, what are these words? And depending on which vowels we put under the Aramaic consonants, what are the different meanings that are associated there, and from there, what are the true matrias there. Right? And you could start digging. Right? And right now, if you go on Libgen and Anna's archives, you could you could see you could see, there's a lot of high level papers written by Harvard, and European universities trying to decode these texts.
So we live in a golden age, either between, Chat GPT, translation, and and getting these PDFs. And you could really, really get the this stuff. Like, I don't know if you know the Zohar. The Zohar is, like, one of the most serious Jewish mystical texts, and Harvard has a, a full set of it with a very good translation. So there's that. There's Isaac Gloria where, once again, you could a lot of the stuff is coming in, and, you could see very high level rituals. The Seferha Rasim, I think I sent it to Alan Marcus. There's very high level stuff going on there too. Right?
And I I'm not proficient in it, but I see that now that we're getting into the these end of days. It's just all being revealed. So now so I I would recommend that. You know? That way, you can get around the, theosophical, all of that stuff. Are there games being played by the Jews? A %. A %. But if you can just brute force it with enough text, you're gonna start getting in the right room, in the right. There is, a book on cobblism, by forgot his name. There's Moshe Idel. There is if you just look at there's kabbalism. They have their magic squares too.
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Right? I think you guys know about that. And, you can you can start seeing What I'm waiting on you to talk about is the tree is their tree of life. And I wanna know if you went down the path of the Doth tree and all that because their tree of life is is very obviously truncated and and not meant they've cut the root off it. So I'm curious what all down that path you've went.
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I have shitty Hebrew, and they're not telling me anything. No one is telling me anything. And when you speak to Orthodox Jews as a Jew, they're not telling you anything. And you can tell if you're on the right path. Like, if you're like, hey. I'm gonna go read Sefer Hazim. What do you think? And you'll you'll feel them get tense, and you're like, okay. Alright. Alright, guys. So it's I'm learning a lot more off of, like, LibGen and these academic resources because in person, no one's giving me anything. And I don't know if they know do we come? They they have their own internal stuff where they they have their own internal principles that they're operating off of, and they're not going to tell you anything. If you look at Jewish prayers, it's very clear that they're coded deeply.
Like, you see 70 and you're like, oh, 70 is there's the 70 original nations, each ruled by their own angel. Oh, that's why you're saying 70 spices. Gotcha. You know? So
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So they had sort of euphemisms and emoji codes to convey knowledge all going back to It's beginning of time, your zero stuff. It's all, like
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it it's hard to say, like, who knows? Like, Isaac Gloria might know. I think you're gonna get somewhere with the Sohar. With the Sohar, I learned about how how is sorcery actually practiced. Like like, what are the components of it? And that's like, what did the Egyptians do? What what was the Egyptian magic? What was the Babylonian magic? Right? And you start getting those answers. But there's a book called Meditations on Kabbalah. And as you recite your Jewish prayers, you have to there's a certain breathing pattern that you're supposed to hit, like a rhythmic breathing pattern that they have in yoga. Right?
And if you do that while resetting the prayer, while following certain number codes, there's kind of a left and right brain resonance that you're gonna get into. And then from there, you'll feel yourself in a deep meditation. And so so that so so it's it's to sort of answer your question, there's, you know, like, look up this meditations on Kabbalah, and and with your pagan knowledge, you can start to decode what they're doing and why. And I don't I don't know, but, like, you can kinda feel that there's there's games being played. Right? And it's it's also interesting, like, how high up would you have to go up the chain before someone knew, let alone they told you?
Right? So, like, does the president of Israel know? You know what I mean? Like, do do they know? Like, it's, you know, for me, it's like a it's like a big conspiracy. Right? I I guess is the tree of life truncated? Yes. Because, there's Babylonian texts that you can read, and there's, like, the there's the seven kings of Edom, where there's which are the seven Babylonian kings. And sometimes they're good, sometimes they're evil. And you can see how Babylonian worship influences Jewish worship, and it's an open question of, is the Babylonian one the unaculted one? Like, it there's just a lot of questions, and there's a lot of book digging.
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And I do less book digging, and I'm most of my stuff comes it's it's literally my own, and I get a lot of my information directly from the laboratory. That all these things, you can you can take and you can, these are culted ideas. They all match things in the laboratory. And you're just taking an as above so below approach to it and understanding that the same mechanisms are gonna continue to happen. I you know, but That that a lock that, a lock that's got one tumbler and one little peg on it, even though that you can have a big fancy lock that's got all kinds of craziness to it, it's still basically just a fucking lock. Right. And it it still works like a lock. That that that's what you that's the as above so below, understanding that things may get slightly more complicated.
Brand new Corvette is a lot more complicated than a model t, but at the end of the day, you got an engine, you got a transmission, you got you got power distribution. You're you're in the front and in the back. Well, probably just in the back on those model T's your rear diff to actually put power to the road. All those same basic elements are still there, still function the same way, still do the same basic things. It's just a lot fancier.
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Yeah. For for me, it's I'm really interested in how religions function and what what is the deep esoteric reason for the rituals? Like, what's the underlying logic of the gaps of mass?
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So my my my that's my contention. Right. How do you understand the mechanisms behind the ritual without actually taking it back to reality, taking it back to the lab, understanding that you do certain things because of certain things. And that's that's where you get the more grandiose rituals where you're dealing with higher beings, but you're still doing the same mechanisms. And if you don't in my for me, once a cult has separated themselves from the laboratory Yeah. And alchemy out of their out of their repertoire, Well, now you can make now you can do anything.
Now now you can make anything anything. And it whereas opposed to the things that I say have to actually match what I can produce.
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I don't know. You know? I don't know. I I I see the prayers, and I see that there's stuff in them. Mhmm.
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And and
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through my reading, I can see that there's deep games happening. And if you look at, let's say, Orthodox Christianity, and they have bones in their church that lines up with necromancy, and they could be channeling spirits with those bones,
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and they could be getting into all all kinds of stuff. Do the Orthos do that? I know the Catholics do. The Orthos also do the, reliquary? I mean, they call it reliquary.
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And if you look at the Eastern European pagans, they have extensive necromancy in their shamanism, and that's a completely valid form of magic is just to channel the spirits that are attached to that body. And if you start reading necromancy books you know, I would say, like, okay. Read a whole bunch of necromancy books. Some of it's right. Some of it's wrong. Who knows? And then go see what is their interactions with those bodies. And it's gonna line up pretty close.
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The faces of death DVDs were on sale at Walmart on the shelves. So, you know, we're we're back to this point of what we think we're making on sale. Made it to DVD?
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They were selling it on the shelves. That on BHS. What the hell? Yep. Yep. There's a whole new generation. So we're talking about Why would you traumatize more kids with that?
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Well, this is where we are in our culture where we're talking about, you know, public executions again. We're back to war and death rituals and,
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the faces of death thing, you know, snuff tapes, real death. We're we're we're at this end of history. You know, if you have ever watched the light leave something's eyes and actually saw its eyes go dead, that's not something you really wanna fucking have nothing to do with. Like, that's a you know, that that's rough stuff. And then on a video game, it's there's no actual consequences. But when you see the light leave something's eyes and you're the one that caused that, that's that's some rough ass stuff. So when we have, you know, professional wrestling, we have MMA, and we have these cage fights and things, they're not fighting to the death.
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The next logical progression of just extreme sports arrives at the fact that gladiatorial combat like in Rome where you put two men in a ring and one man leaves and the other stays. I mean, is that is that where we're heading as a culture, worldwide civilization? Is it going to get to that point where that's kind of the the true sport is going to be the the blood sport, the death sport?
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I would say that a lot of these rituals just require a lot of energy, psychological, in terms of blood, stuff like that. Right? And like like Balderson said, like, when something leaves an animal or a person, it's a very strong effect, and you can feel it in the room. And so Oh, it's It's probably the strongest thing that you could feel. Yeah. And so you could see how that could be used as a battery to pull in spirits and to do all of your occult work. And and that's universal, so you're gonna see that
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across cultures. Well, it reminds me of an event in Minneapolis. A black guy cashed a bad check and got knelt on and couldn't breathe, and now there's memorials and people were on the streets. I mean, that kind of death magic ritual really motivated people to unite under a cause and become a community against the oppression.
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Are are we seeing more of those types of Right. So so they they always play that stuff. Yes. So so if you were to watch that situation, it would follow some kind of a cult formula. Now Mhmm. I don't know which one, but it it did. And so let's say this man was sacrificed to create a certain psychological effect, and that psychological effect created a certain political effect. Right? Mhmm. So these occult rituals are out there. Right? Now I'm not recommending anyone does them, but if you can start to understand that occult language, you'll start to understand what's happening.
And then I I would also say that at very high levels of occultism, there really isn't religion. It's really hard to say where's the Christianity, where's the Judaism, where's the paganism, because at a deep, deep level, there's just protocols that they're that they're following. Right? And it's you know, religion's kind of like a political party. But once you start seeing the underlying logic, there's a certain kind of format for the for the rituals, which seems universal, or or there's there's similar procedures. Right? So that's that's what's going on.
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Is there an identity, like the better male, the the loser type of guy who's always into the self sacrifice? And we might call it the oppression Olympics. The person in the room who's most depressed gets elevated to the highest stature.
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I think to conduct those rituals, you need a lot of resources. Still energy
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in that narrative?
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I I I'm just gonna say that at the bottom of a religious hierarchy, there are a lot of people who don't know what's going on. Because they don't know what's going on, they can be sucked dry of energy. So at the lower levels of Freemasonry, they're doing rituals that they don't understand. And and through those rituals, they could be drained by people who do know what they're doing, and they could channel that energy into a higher whatever their purpose is. Right? I don't wanna ascribe morality to it. Right? So so there there's people who are gonna be getting duped one way or the another. Right? If you look at Hinduism, which is, actually a very pure form of paganism. Right? You're gonna see ecstatic dance.
And you can see that a lot of people are participating in this without understanding, like, what kind of energies are being channeled. You know, ecstatic dance is actually a very powerful form of magic, and you can rile people up. You know, like, let's say the Hajj with Islam. Right? You riled them up, and they're circling a black tube. Right? And and they're letting out a lot of emotion, and there's a lot of feelings there. Right? And that energy is then channeled. I don't know how. I don't know. But it's very clear that there is a process. So I I think I think the Hajj, there's a very powerful, thing going on, and a lot of people would argue that it's pre Islamic in nature.
And I think it's also very clear that the Vatican is doing stuff. And if you look at the Church of England, there's, like, Druidic stuff that the Queen of England is doing. So it's it it'd be really interesting to to get a get some kind of semblance of what you mean.
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King sausage fingers. Don't call him a queen.
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Oh. King sausage fingers. Well okay. So if you look at the whole Epstein Island situation. Right? Was Epstein even a real man?
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Yeah. With an egg shaped penis. Was he a physical man, or is he more of a figure, like an influencer figure? We recognize his face. Was it was he a construct of an idea to create a narrative following? Was he just a actor? Was he, from central casting? Do you have any insight into that? Because everyone saw I go to the AppSync list and began the biggest news story for the last few years. And I I don't know that I've seen many videos of him just, you know, hanging out, working out, and petting dogs, and kissing babies. And I don't see a whole lot of actual footage of a man to believe that there's a real person here. We see images of him with Glenn Maxwell and other celebrities and things.
Is it part of the op in your opinion?
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So there's a big op. Mhmm. There's a big op. And there is high level rituals taking place there, however they work. Probably some kind of child sacrifice, whatever. That's number one. Next, there is a sexual blackmail. Right? Now what if I I feel like no one really actually reads the Bible, but if you read Exodus and you look at the political system in Egypt, they control people sexually and through sin. And there's a The,
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we talked a little bit earlier about circumcision rituals
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and why does that continue today. And Well, you know, we could talk about Saturn and Saturn eating his, you know Yeah. His own son, and then maybe Judaism is Saturnism, and it looks like that painting you know, that's that. But what what I'm saying is when you look at Exodus, the Egyptians are controlling not just the Jews of that time, but all the other races under their dominion through some kind of sexual perversion, magic, something. Something's happening there. Right? Now that methodology, if you understand the bible deeply, which state of Israel does. Right? Mhmm. You could take that methodology and you could use it in modern day with an Epstein.
Right? So so where does all this where do all these tactics come from? They come from the bible, and the bible disc discusses
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the enemies of So it is there a distinction between these ideas coming from, like, being pulled out of the bible, or did the bible just gather them and then put them on a document?
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I I mean, there's a lot of ways to read that bible. And and once you get into that Aramaic or that Hebrew, you have no idea what you're reading because there's the consonants, and you can put whatever vowels you want. And so if you understand the language very well, what you could do is you could go through and think of all of the vowel combinations and write through write down every sentence and what it would mean with the different vowel combinations. Right? Mhmm. And you would for every sentence, you I don't know how many, but you would get a lot. And some of them are valid and some of them aren't.
But that game for sure is being played, and so the problem with translating the Bible into any other language is you lose out on the vowel game. Right? So there's king, which is Melech. Keep in mind, I'm not good at this. I'm just I'm just floating ideas. There's Melech and there's Moloch. And and how do you know So so there's smell his king, and there's Moloch means sacrifice. So you could say, god is king, or you could say, god is sacrifice. And depending on which which vowels you put there, you get a different sentence. So every everyone you hear, God is king, God is king, God is king. Okay. But what if every single time they said God is king, they make God a sacrifice. And insofar as you sacrifice, now God appears. And when you look through the Bible, whenever there's sacrifices, God just, boop. Right? So, like, Moses gets filled with rage and he, I think, beats an Egyptian to death. Right?
And immediately after that, boom, burning bush.
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Well, there's a poetic language of the bible and bringing it back to pillars of wisdom here, this beautiful book. And then in the back, there's a skit analysis of, Lacan's graphs of desire. You get into some of these charts. You have a sentence here that says Charles and Josephine's fall. And what does the word fall mean? Is it a season of the year? Is it autumn? Is it a time, or is it a descent? And then from there, it's like you break it into this tree where it's further broken down into to the meaning here. And that's why in the bible, there's all these theologians with their exegesis of what the text their interpretations of it. And because of the biblical poetic language through the translations, a lot of people might only understand English, so they read the King James translation of it. And then they write their exegesis off of the King James version of the English bible.
And now people go back and they go back to Aramaic. So there's all of this sort of stuff. But can you talk a little bit about, who Lacan is? And Oh, you want me to pivot to Lacan? The grass.
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Yeah. It's in the it's in the book. Okay. Oh, okay. Do you want me to explain Lacan? Okay. Now we're kinda moving away from religion.
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Well, are we though? I mean, is is psychoanalysis and is that just part of religion too?
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In Freud, there's a lot of religion. But it's an open question of whether or not that religion remains in Lacan. And so who who is Lacan? In in Freud makes a lot of discoveries, but there's a lot of problems in Freud. There's a lot of gaps, and those gaps have to be filled into a fully functioning theory. So how is that done? One is through Hegel who's a Gnostic, so he's a complete wizard. And the other one is through linguistics. And linguistics is really important because a person can lie to you with what they're saying, but not with how they're saying it. Their word choice, their grammar choice. So as a psychoanalyst, you're gonna sit on a couch, and you're gonna listen to their grammar.
And through that grammar, that unconscious is gonna leak like that. And so
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Lacan It's like, giving a confession to a priest sitting in a dark booth and, you know, forgive me father for I've sinned, and then you just tell your favorite father everything you've done bad that week.
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Right. And then he's in a position of power because now he can aggregate all that sin
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and start seeing a big picture. And then tying this together with the sexual blackmail and this idea of shame and guilt and people having secrets, holding secrets over other people.
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So I I guess yeah. And and I think secrets have some kind of you know, with Freemasonry, secrets have a certain kind of power of their own. Right? But, which am I talking about Lacan? What am I tell me what Yeah. We we we we're kind
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of in this area of, you know, men are told to go to therapy and get help, and then there's the gethelp.com where you're talking to an AI. You're typing to an AI, or you have this sort of thing where you're confessing or your problems are to a computer and all your data is gathered. Sucked up. You create a profile of a population in in aggregate. So now that there's the population is, you know, freely putting stuff on Twitter and Facebook, and Facebook's been around since 02/2004. Some people have been on it since then. So they have, like, twenty years of a lifetime of a lifeline of a lifelog of significant events in people's lives, and then they feed them Well done.
A simulation. With the lifelog.
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Lifelog. Logs. Yep. So okay. So there is cognitive cognitive behavioral therapy, which is a liberal therapy. It's a behavioral therapy where they want you to imitate certain behaviors to make you yourself feel better.
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Mhmm.
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There and that's the most popular one. There is a psychoanalytic therapy where they're gonna engage in analyst discourse, and it's it's really annoying, both to do it and to be on the receiving end of it. So as you speak, you're gonna start leaking things. And the goal of the psychoanalyst is to be as annoying as possible and interrupt you and fuck with you until you lose your shit and engage in transference, which is projection, and scream some shit at them. Say, you're just like my father. You don't care. Blah blah blah. The minute he's yelling at you, he's not lying. You can't yell filled with rage and lie.
And then from there, once you leak, then you have to discuss the thing that you leak. And and the the psychoanalyst
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plays or mandated anger management for for men who are forced into this. I don't think men are going to opt into therapy. Oh oh, well, well, there's there's there's cognitive behavioral therapy and there's psychoanalysis. Psychoanalysis
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is gonna happen in Latin America Mhmm. And in Europe and in Latin Europe. So so it's it's gonna be very rare. It's I like psychoanalysis, and I've taught it to business leaders because nobody knows it. And if you're operating off the psychoanalytic platform and you're fucking with your business rival through psychoanalysis, nobody knows what the fuck you're doing, and you'll be able to execute clean. If you do cognitive behavioral therapy, forty eight laws of power, stuff like that, they know your playbook. Right? Right. So, and then negotiations have done business coaching, but I like psychoanalysis because when those CEOs execute on psychoanalysis, they're not gonna be caught because they don't know what to look for.
Okay. So there's so there's that. Right? Then there's also schizo analysis, delusion schizo analysis, where you reduce everything to these drives. So there is, and I'm not as well versed on it. So there is anti production. So you you you start to reduce people to these programming languages, and there's, like, a synthesis. There's different kinds of synthesis, and there's there's different kinds of nondisjunctions. Right? And that you can read people's speech to say, okay. Like, how much are they building and how much are they stalling? Right? And and, beyond that, which structures feed into them? Which structures is he a product of?
Right? So that's I would argue that's also very interesting. So, the
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And this is all just know thyself. What are the tools that men can use to know thyself and not have to feel paranoid that they're going to be, admitting things and that stuff will be used against them later. Well, like,
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it's if you have someone who doesn't give a fuck about you, they can start piecing together your structure, like, as an editor. Mhmm. Because it's very hard to get past your own ego, and you don't have to. You you just need to find someone who's distant enough from you where he'll sense that, sense your your your grammatic structure like that. Right? So but the other thing is if you start looking at your sins, most people have similar stuff. It's when you've I've talked to a lot of people in aggregate. Mhmm.
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It's it's pretty similar. And when we say sin, are we talking about masturbation? Are we talking about Masturbation. Happen. November, December, December, this type of this this guilt of having a a sexual drive as a man. You have a chapter asking question, are you horny enough, basically, is So do you have enough drive
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to push? So so, you know, most men are neurotic, and so they they want the sex without having to deal with the woman. Right? You want you want her as a sexual object, but then if she starts acting too much like a subject, it's too much. Female hysteria is very strange to us men where she can imagine herself as you having sex with her. She can also imagine you having sex with another woman.
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There's a whole bunch of books published under that romanticisty spicy novels. I think Elon Musk's sister has a whole company devoted to romance.
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And so so female sexuality is really interesting. A passion flicks if you're looking for it. Because it's just a lot of cheating. Mhmm. And some of them want to identify as the man having sex with them. They wanna picture themselves as the object of desire. For Freud, it's a very convoluted it's called, like, the butcher's witty wife, where some woman wanted fish. Some woman asked her husband if he had fish, and then she was, like, cucking this woman by not getting her fish. And and it was this whole thing where she was acting as object of desire so that to deny the man the ability to be an agent. It's it's a very delicate thing.
I don't think I'm telling it correctly. If anyone knows psychoanalysis or Freud, they'd fuck me completely fuck me on this one. But
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No. This is just part of the deliberation to find out, you know, where should we be researching further, and where where is the the the greatest harvest of value
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and what Yatsira and Sefer Hara Museum right away. Mhmm. In Sefer Yatsira, you're gonna find you're gonna find the the tree of life. How do you derive the tree of life out of the bible? So when God speaks the earth speaks the world into existence, In so doing, he creates these programming languages, spheres. Right? And so when he says let there be light and it was good, right in Sefer Yutirah, it's gonna explain to you the tree of life and how that corresponds to the beginning of Genesis, which is the craziest part in my opinion, and how it relates into the Hebrew letters.
So I think that's a really good place to start. Those Hebrew letters are gonna correspond to astrology. And and then from there, you're off to the races. So that's where you're gonna see that magical language being developed. So so I think that's really rich. And then from there, there's Seferha Razim where it's full blown rituals like summoning an air spirit to tell you the truth and really high level stuff with with very serious consequences. But don't do it. Don't do it. But you you'll you'll start seeing what is the what are those processes. Right?
So in terms of occultism, I think you can get a lot there. And then once again, if you I think if you went to a Catholic priest and you told them that you're reading those books, I think if you went to any clergy and you told them they're they're reading those books, they would completely flip out on you. And that's a sign that you're on the right track. Maybe you're on a dangerous track, and it's up to you if you wanna pursue that, but you're definitely on a path. So so there's there's that. I I I think there's a lot of different paths in occultism, and I don't I don't know. This is what I know, and this where,
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earlier you talked about Yeah. The the problem of the ritual purity and not being purified before some rituals. So maybe that's why certain men die on the path or are doing it. None of us are pure.
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Okay. Right now right now, we're covered in sin, and we're we're in the lowest, darkest part. And so there's,
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injury that is that an explanation for the guilt that so many young men especially feel once they once their body circuit comes online and and they begin to, ejaculate and these emissions and now there's guilt associated with it? And and So that whole control thing, figuring that out is sort of the struggle that some men just never
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figure out. They never get past it. Let me let me give you some wizard magic, Krita. Mhmm. So in Judaism, there's there's something called Tikkun Olam, which is like the rip repairing of the world. Right? And so there is the sparks that the Earth is made out of, and and they're trying to reunite everything back into purity. Right? And we're we're at the end of a cycle, and so the sparks which need to be redeemed are the lowest sparks. And so by going down into the darkest filth, that's where the remaining sparks are. Right?
So let's say our conversations, how we know each other, we why are we all in the same wavelength? Because we saw the pandemic. Right? And after the pandemic, we're like, yo, like, like, fuck this. Like, bro, it's just fucking over. Right? So the pandemic, which was the lowest of the low, it was a mass human sacrifice, silver lining brought all of us together. Right? And and reawakened people searching religious texts and doing it in a intellectual way instead of, like, a annoying blowhard. Right? That's that. The next thing we could talk about masturbation. Right? With regards to masturbation, if you're waging a spiritual war on people, one of the most effective things that you could do is get them to jerk off.
Okay? Now, I saw this book, and it was a book on evil amulets. Okay? It was a Hebrew book on evil amulets. And your smartphone, right, is an evil amulet. Right? And we could talk about the pager attack. Maybe that's an evil am like, what is an amulet?
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What's the word that you said just now?
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Amulet.
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But no. The do it with the p. P. With the p. I know what amulet is.
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Pagers.
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Pagers. Oh, pagers? Phones. Okay. Okay. I see. So that you had a buzz on your I I didn't understand what word you said. It was Pager. Yeah. Pager. So Okay.
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So if there is a Kabbalistic text on evil amulets Mhmm. It sounds like you're a blowhard wizard. But what is an amulet? A smartphone is an amulet, and a pager is an amulet. So if I'm using an ancient Kabbalistic text on evil amulets to kill my enemies, right, now I can kill them with an exploding pager, evil amulet, or I now you have a smartphone at any time, you can start jerking off to porn. And as soon as you start jerking off to porn, I can corrupt your soul. And I can get you in that spirit war, and that's the same spirit war that the Egyptians used to control the populations that they were controlling back in the day. Right?
So that's that's actually very high level stuff right there, and it really took me a while to piece that one together. The function of the orgasm,
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was it Reich? And he wrote a lot about that, fascism and the, suppression of the orgasm. Reich?
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Yeah. He had a bunch of sexual, books. I haven't read any of his sexual works,
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but he had quite a few of them. So technology of fascism. I'm trying to remember the titles exactly. But it's all kind of that same idea of, you know, death by a thousand cuts, getting a man alone, and then extending expending his energy so he doesn't go out.
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You look at Japan Japan, the dudes are super feminized. They can't even hardly get these dudes to date because they're so like, people don't understand that you have a a wiring system. And when you start self pleasuring, you're basically setting a pathway. And then you choose, of course, which porn you want, and you start really defining that specific pathway. And, eventually, it no different than if you ate the same food every single day all the time. Anything else becomes fucked up and you don't want it. It it it definitely happens with the with with, that's part of the advantage to being in a long term relationship.
My wife knows what I like. We're comfortable together. I don't have to worry about any weird things with her or being embarrassed about anything. None of it. It's all good. No problem. You know? But these kids, they don't they don't have they've set that wiring for porn, and they lost all interest in women. And and we gotta face it, boys. Women was the whole reason we did anything. Like, we'd still be in a cave. We'd we'd at best be maybe pissing outside the cave. If it it maybe some of the caves would be have have dudes pissing outside. We don't care what we wear. We don't care what we look like. 90% of our motivation is women. And when they've completely taken that away, what are you even gonna fight about? Like, when you were a teenager, a a cute chick would walk by, and you'd be standing next to your best friend, and all of a sudden, one of you two just punches the other one for no apparent reason, and you're scrapping.
Like, you're scrapping. And then the chick is when the chick's far enough away, you're done, and you're both like, why are we fighting? Uh-uh.
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Uh-uh. Uh-uh. So okay. So there's reproductive sex. So okay. Let's say there's three types of sex. Right? There's reproductive sex. Great. There is tantric sex. And in tantric sex, I'm sure you guys both know, they drag out the orgasm to get you into a high level meditation state, and, ideally, you can connect up. Right? So you see it in Hinduism. You see it in a lot of practices.
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In Illuminism, I'm sure you're using withholding ejaculation.
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Yes. And and I'm sure you'll start getting really tense and all sorts of stuff, and you're gonna hitting start hitting certain frequencies. Right? When you're having sex with a woman Now when you're 50, it's called prostate problems. So so what they're gonna be, what they're trying to do is when you're having sex with a woman, you're trying to draw down a soul. It's a material reality. Right? So there's a lot of stuff happening on that side. But if you can get someone to just spill the seed, that energy can then go, boom, to feed demons.
Because those demons thirst for your human virility. They're they're parasitic like like mosquitoes. Right? And so if you're covered in sin, they want to possess you so they can feel your sin. And if if there's blood or if there's semen, they want that virile energy to feed themselves because they can't get that energy from God. Right? So if I can trick you into jerking off with an evil amulet, you're then gonna summon a lot of demons through your own semen who are then going to pester you to try and drain you as much as possible. Right?
Boom. And so so so that kind of stuff, like, it's it's actually like, what I said, it's just very high level of cultism. It's it's it's dead serious. Right? And you can see how it's a cult enough, and it's practical enough. Right? So so there's a lot of things that if if you have a deep understanding of the Bible and you have a deep understanding of these games, you can see how the Bible's weaponized. And so when people start saying, well, like, is it literal? Is it metaphor no. It's literal. And is it practical? Yeah. It's practical. Right?
So I'd be really, really careful. And and you can see how, like, the you can tell who masturbates. Right? You can see the light leave their eyes. And, and so, like, you know, there's this whole no not November joke, and it's funny.
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But if you see it as spiritual warfare, it's actually really not funny. It's not funny. So no. Not November is during men's health month, and, like, prostate health is part of men's health and grow a mustache and don't shave in November. They're doing semen retention during prostate health month?
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That's interesting. Mhmm. That's a Well, weird. Semen retention during prostate month is not you know, you'd think maybe December would then be prostate health month. Like,
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those those those are the strange, signifiers of our culture with
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significant meaning. November, that thing's packed up tight. Something needs to go.
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Yeah. I guess. But but yeah. So I guess there's sex magic is really powerful. Death magic is really powerful. And then the other thing is the more sin they can get on you, the further you're gonna be magic.
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The what? You got sex magic. You got the other Blood magic. Death and taxes are the other certainties. Yeah. The there's money too. Right?
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But with,
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It was our original to to paying taxes. Is there No problem. Original to refuse to pay taxes to Caesar? Or
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I I was in this situation. I was in an argument with a religious guy. Mhmm. And, I was really upset at him. And he's like, oh, like, it's fine. I'll just pay you. He said that to me. And I was like, no. I don't want your fucking money. Like, you fucked up. Unfuck yourself. It's on you. But it's it was actually a very big insult because had I taken the money, then that means I'm of the material world, and I have a low spirit that I could be bribed by the material world. So when when he said, oh, I'll just pay you and it's fine. Just forgive me. And I said, look. I'll forgive you. I don't give a fuck. But but you you fix yourself. Like, don't know that you fucked up. You fixed yourself.
I'll let this pass. I'm not taking any money. But when when they say that, oh, here's money, and I'm bribing you off, they're testing if you're spiritually low and you could be bribed through the material world. And it was actually a very deep insult. And I was like, oh, you think you could just bribe me like this? You think it you think this isn't on principle? This is on principle. I don't give a fuck about anything. You know? So so if if you know the teachings, and you speak to these high level religious people, some of them are good, some of them are bad, but that that's not my point. My point is that they're practitioners of they're basically wizard.
And and by observing them, you can see how they're they're playing their wizard game. So, yeah, for me, it it's not that I have a strong understanding of the a call. I I understand some. I have some basic symbolic literacy. I hooked it into psychoanalysis. Boom. And and I think, do you guys know any Kabbalism? Mhmm. Okay. Do you know about, Yesod and Shekinah? Yeah. Okay. Well, so so those
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last sephiro you can't get nobody to fucking talk about in the dad tree.
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Okay. So but you need to get, you need to get them to to merge. Right? Mhmm. And so that's what's happening in the book. Right? Because you have the divine feminine. You have, divine masculine, and they're gonna they're gonna merge.
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Right.
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And then and and those two polarities coming together is just gonna shoot you up.
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See, that's where and I'm sorry about the peacocks. Yes. And I've seen it in the chat a number of times. It is peacock season. Yes. But so that that's again for me because, again, of the laboratory work, a miss on where they put out a lot of misinformation. And so when you look at alchemy and the way it's classically looked at is that the the sulfur side is feminine, and then the salt side is masculine. And what they don't understand is that's like saying that hot and cold are
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masculine and feminine. It's not that necessarily that they're gender.
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What but so the way the mechanics of it actually works is when you're looking at, like, a plant, an animal, whatever, when you're doing alchemy, when you're putting it through the great work salt and the sulfur are both masculine. And what it is is the masculine's been broken and polarized against itself. Okay. So what the feminine is doing is allowing the two masculine components to come back together and heal itself and become one again. Okay. That makes sense. Both that fireside and that ice side, they're both masculine. Both of them.
And the feminine is healing that and putting them back together. And then That makes sense. And then the alchemical marriage happens where all three where all where it coagulates into one thing. And that's why the stone shows both the fireside and the ice side. It it will get runny and watery like the like the fireside, but then it will also turn into a stone when it's cold, which is the is the ice side. And it carries both characteristics now because the masculine was always supposed to have both, but you're you're you're lacking one. That's why we're stronger than, like, in in your terminology, angels or demons, because they both only have one side. We have both, but we're there it's a dirty connection.
So the great work is cleaning that connection and then completely healing the masculine through the feminine.
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I'm not gonna I'm not gonna disagree. I I I I don't I don't know. Like, I think I feel like you know. Like, what what I what I'll what I'll tell you is what I know is those spheres, the separate spheres, they themselves are composed of other spheres, and it's it's a fractal. Mhmm. And
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Marcus, send him my tree of life talk.
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Yes.
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You hear the you hear the cat talk the cat fight?
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Yeah. Instead of cat versus
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I'm gonna go see if that's not that fucking ravaging dog. I think I got it, but I'm not a % sure because you're never sure in the woods.
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Right.
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Never sure in the woods.
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Okay. I'm just Just living off the grid. Oh, okay. Homesteading.
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Alright. Real life. Yeah. So that makes sense. I I so okay. Let let he needs to make a diagram.
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That's that's exactly
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how I should point number one where you're talking about you got the knowledge, need to write the book, that's Okay. So okay. So okay. You saw my diagrams. Okay. Great. Hopefully, they're good. I I threw as much manpower as I could. Mhmm. But there's things I did well, and there's things I didn't. Right. But so he has all this knowledge, and it's oral.
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There's a tree of life model. We've we've built it. Toothpicks and marshmallows. It's a three d structure. Letters assigned to it. You know, it's making progress on this.
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Slow and steady. It's not on paper. No one sees it. Right? It's not a published book yet. So Yep. I can spend a certain amount of money and mail my book Mhmm. To perspective people who are gonna sell he has this mysterious model, and he's a very intelligent man, and no one will ever know. Right? So to kinda go back full circle, if you have this knowledge, it has to be compiled into something
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because we're all I didn't write a book. You're right. There's no doubt. You need to write a book. Like
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like, I I he can either write a book or he can write parts of a book. I think it's easier for him to write parts of a book and you guys to work together as a team. That can be your alchemical marriage. You could roll it forward, and you could push it forward. Right? And I think there's a lot of truth of in what you're saying. And then if someone like me reads this book, then it'll give me the resources necessary to decode all the wizard books that I'm trying to read. Right? So that's that's really the thing I'm I'm getting at. Like, yeah. I read a book. Please buy my book. You guys are gonna love it.
Yes. But on the other side of that, I wanna inspire people to start publishing, to start writing, especially groups groups like yours. And there's a lot of things that I figured out. Like, you know, there's Pegasus there. There's, you know, the the Babylonian centaur there. There's a lot of things that design characteristics that I figured out, right, that can make it easier for you guys to do it. I feel like ball does Balderson have one of my books? No. Right? Can I can you just I'll I'll I'll send you a book this week?
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I mean, if you want to. If not, I was just I want to. The one from Marcus. We weren't trying to get a whole bunch from you. Okay. I was Marcus was perusing this one now. Okay. Jim Jim, the other guy, got has the other one, and Okay. They had a baby, and the baby came premature. And, they it's it's, you know, life. Life. You know?
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It's a slow and slow and steady path. Sure. So, you know, whatever you guys want, you know, like, send me some addresses. I'll mail mail you some books. But the important thing is, like, I'm right on some things. I'm wrong on some things, But I figured out a lot of processes that can decrease the amount of work that you guys are doing, and we can roll it forward because as you guys said, like, there's a lot of occultism that you disagree with. But your position on alchemy of of healing the broken masculine, that's the first time I heard that. I haven't seen that anywhere, and I don't know how much reading Baldrisson had to do to do it or how I'd find those books or what I'd have to do. Right? It would be a tremendous work for me to do that. Right? So I would love to just kind of see his formula and then take his formula and apply it back through all the cultism books that I know.
So I I guess, for me, that's what this conversation is about, is that I don't think that your team is any worse than my team. I think you're incredibly intelligent. You could do it. And, you know, you guys are going to fairs and launching fireworks and stuff. Okay. And you're battling raccoons. Okay. But I think where you're the most exalted is if you push a book. And and then from there, we could have we could support each other. You know? I I have a very interesting audience of manosphere people, political people. I have a wine guy. I have anti vaccine moms.
I'm gonna translate my book into Spanish. So I have, like Remember the sexiest kinds? The
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The anti vax moms? Anti vax moms.
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They're they're kind of single issue people. There's
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You know, a lot that's actually you know, most people are single issue people. You know? I mean, that's that's the difference between a Renaissance person and a normal person. Most people, that's what you get. You're gonna get a
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single issue. That's fine. But a lot of those issues are gonna start coalescing, and then you're gonna start seeing a bigger truth. Right? So, sometimes that person's single issue is the key that you were looking for to get to this next thing. Right? Like, in in high levels of mysticism, you have to start learning math, and you have to start understanding how matrices work. And then I was like, fuck. Like, I have to call my programmers and have them lecture me about matrices. I hate matrices, and I don't wanna do any more math. So it's it's good to have this community because some of these things really require a multidisciplinary approach.
Yeah. So I I guess that so I I would I would highly recommend, one, I'd love ballers since read my book because you're great.
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Sure. And I'm remembering that. I'm very much looking forward to it. We we wanted we Marcus and I asked a number of times, but I said Jim was stuck. Like, a month, he was stuck up in the getting a free meal with the Hanover. First edition book with the original cover. Get get my, get my second edition book with the with the 2,000
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cover.
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I I I put the I put my address in the back, brother. Okay. Please. Okay. And and so the the thing I am gonna say is, unfortunately, there is no books that say what I try what I told you there. Okay. And so where where I really put that together is when I I changed my spagyrics to a really high level. So your traditional spagyrics, when you're taking and removing the oil from the plant, you're doing it with hot. So, like, your your typical person will take and, like, do something like boil water, run the steam through the plant material, the steam will rip out the the oil, and they'll process it from there. Well, because I have microscopes and because I I do this, I started extracting, and I wanted to extract live.
And when I extract plant material live as opposed to older plant material, I started noticing that there's a a yellow component in it, and it's like a it's the life of the of the oil. And that will degrade. The oil itself, I can take and I can run it through a distillation process and I can purify it, and the oil actually doesn't degrade that much. Okay. It eventually does, but the life the life degrades, like, immediately really fast. And it goes from yellow to a reddish to a brownish then black. And by the time it's black, the efficacy of the plant material is almost nothing compared to when it was live.
Almost nothing. And so when I started doing that and started preserving that component and then understanding that the oil in and of itself is the mercury, that's the mercurial component. And so that yellow is riding inside of that. That life is inside of there. And what you're doing when you open up the salt, which is what the oil is then also doing, because the oil is opening up that path. That's why Mercury's the messenger or the Mercury sets the boundaries, blah blah blah. Because this transition or transaction can only happen inside the bounds of where the mercury is, and the mercury is the feminine. And so inside those bounds, that's where this transaction happens, where this yellow life force, you know, in a plant, not in all Okay. Like, you know, spagyrics and as above so below. Okay. Where this life force enters the salt through the mercury And the salt and then the sulfur become one thing.
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Okay. I'm gonna put my chemist on this. Absolutely. I got a chemist here. He's a really serious guy. So oh, so that's what I'm saying. I'm gonna so, like, you see how you're going you're going beyond my knowledge. I'm gonna tag my guy in,
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Which I I don't have an issue with that. That that's, you know, that that's, that's I also have people just the other day, that whole thing with the pyramid came out. I have a friend who does nothing but study the pyramids. Okay. And then he lives in he he lives in Egypt just so he could do that. Okay. And so I said, hey. What's up with that? And and he put out a video where he took the the the radars that they were showing, and he overlaid it over the things that we know exist. And it Okay. It wasn't great. Like, it wasn't accurately depicting things that are known. So then to so then to assume that what it's showing else, you know, in areas we don't know, you can't take that, you know, for a lot either. But I I'm it's it's exactly like what you're saying. I don't have that expertise.
I'm not in Egypt studying the pyramids. I called him.
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Okay. Yeah. So that's
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It's the land of Kim, Jeff.
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Yeah. Land of Yeah. Land of Kim.
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Make a note of that. Share that link again. Yeah.
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Got it. Yeah. He, he he I got to actually hang out with that guy too at Freeman Fly's house. I think you would enjoy Freeman Fly's work.
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Okay. His older work, his stuff his stuff about religions and esoteric stuff. Can you send me the the links? Mhmm. Because I'm a bit tired now. So, like Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. I guess I guess that this is unrelated. Do you know about glycine? It's an amino acid. Okay. And it tastes sweet. Okay. And it helps you sleep. Oh. And it's more mild than melatonin. And so one of my friends is making glyce cream, which is like a sorbet made with glycine. The amino acids, it just has no sugar in it. But on this mystical side, you get into this kind of mystical, dissociative kind of vibe.
And if you're doing the right meditations, you know, it's nothing harsh, not like marijuana or LSD, but still you you kinda you get somewhere very quickly, and you start getting ideas that you normally wouldn't get because you're on a different wavelength without being, like, a complete drug addict or or endangering yourself. Just just glycine. And, if you just order a bag of glycine, and it's but,
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yeah, my book has some recipes that are funny. I was just gonna say that your book does have some some recipes to, to make the batter thicker.
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Right. So when you make the batter thicker, you have a more intense orgasm. And the longer your orgasm, the higher you are in the elevated state. So and, also, it'll help with prostate. But if you have this huge ejaculation, right, and you're doing some kind of tantric whatever, you could be in that resonant state longer, and, also, you could produce more children. So that's it it that's there's a spiritual thing. There's a tantric thing, and but there's also a a purely sexual or reproductive
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I got seven kids. I didn't need to do an O tantra. Fucking I I I it it is hard as hell not to keep having kids. Okay.
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Yeah.
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I got eight grandkids already. My kids seem to have the same problem.
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Okay.
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We're taking back we're taking it back.
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Yeah. Keep them away from Iran and stuff like that. That's not that's gonna be the next but yeah. So yeah. So I have that. And then the other thing is I feel like petrochemical drugs bring you down spiritually. And it's when you start doing meditation, and I'm not saying I'm good at it. I don't think I am at all, but I can feel when I'm cleaner and when I'm less clean. And there's obviously certain foods that will bring me down, but any kind of petrochemical drugs or, like, coffee, I feel like coffee is, like, really evil. Like, you really just, like, you just go down. You know?
As I experienced it, I don't know. Even Mormon belief. Yeah.
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Alcohol eaters. I can't drink it. Oh, you can't drink it? No. Anything that's an upper, I can't drink at all. Okay. I don't drink pop. I don't coffee. None of it. The caffeinated culture
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plus the petrochemical drugs, including birth control. We have all these women who are, you know, always drinking the coffee, and they're always taking their birth control pill, and that kinda puts them in a different place. And then if they stop taking the pill, they kind of see the world differently. They're they're noticing.
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So I I'm not gonna advocate for any religion, but there's different religious figures of different religions, and you can feel that you're in the presence of a holy man, that he's on a higher frequency than you. Right? And that's actually a really good point because if you're like, this is what high is, I know what low is. I know what a low frequency is. Right? And you can see that once they're on Lipitor or they're on birth control, they they really get materialistic. It's kind of in a platonic sense. Right? The more sacred you are, the less materialistic you become. Right? That's why when this religious guy was, like, trying to bribe me off, I was thinking like, oh, you think I'm materialistic? Oh, you think I'm like that? But regardless. So but you can you can feel that those drugs bring people down. And, also, that vaccine, a %, I don't care what anyone says, brought people down spiritually.
It could it could have had, you know, like, dead babies in it. It could have had any number of stuff. Right? Like, cannibals will also bring you down spiritually. Right? And so the vaccinated, it's any kind of religious idea or religious belief. It's just anathema to them, and they're not gonna discuss it, especially, like, the hyper four times vaccinated. You're like, hey. Like, I'm studying meditation. Did you know that if you do the prayers of your religion while doing this breathing exercise that you can go higher and that you could be inspired by other kinds of thoughts? And they're gonna be like, that's all nonsense.
What are you doing? Oh, just breathing techniques during meditation, during prayer. Just breathing to you know? So
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I really think that and Lipitor is a demonic sounding name.
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Yeah. I well, you know, that yoga is actually very interesting. Right? Because you're in the Hindu religion, a %, and the yoga mat is a prayer mat. No question about that. Mhmm. And you're doing rituals of Hinduism. And if you're aligned with Hinduism, great. But if you're a Christian,
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you're in polytheism now. Sometimes you're doing it barefoot, and sometimes you're doing a organically you're polytheistic
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also. So but They just don't know it. They're they're they're very confused. Christians are polytheistic. They're just very confused. So
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but you could what kind of yoga are you doing? You know, you're channeling what? You see what I mean? Like, you're doing what? You don't know. And then they're making faces, and those faces correspond to certain things. It's a whole world, and I'm thinking, like, all of you guys are involved in, like what? You know, I I don't wanna critique Hinduism, but at the same time, I if you're doing something, maybe you should do it willfully, but then others people can't let them. But, I I my thing is there's just a lot of questions, and I think it's important we just ask the questions. Maybe we're gonna get to the answer, maybe not, but I think this is an interesting, train of thought, to consider to look at.
And, and that's that. And then I think the other thing is my book takes off. I'd I'd love to bring you out to Mexico. And so you could see this because it's it's definitely something.
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I had a few other fellas try to talk about it. They talked about moving to Mexico saying it's pretty awesome. Steve was like, when my kid turns 18, I'm down. Like, or or graduates college or whatever he's waiting on with Connor. No. He's probably waiting on Waylon. Yeah. Whenever his youngest gets 18, he said he's out. Like
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there's a lot of different kinds of Mexico here. And I just what I love about Mexico is that all of that CNN propaganda, you just don't hear it anymore. All of that, people pushing you away because you're right coded, you don't hear that anymore. And you're just it's you're good. You know what I mean? You're good. You're clean. And it's it's good to kinda go back. I mean, you're going back into their society as a foreigner, but the the kind of
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yeah. I do understand what you're saying. Obviously, I live off grid, like, so far out in the mountains that it takes an hour to go to somewhere where I can buy a pop or a bottle of water or a pack of cigarettes.
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Right.
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And I have to have Starlink to have any kind of a signal. When you get out here away from all that because there's no cable, there's no TV, most people don't have Internet, nothing. It's all all that shit just dies. All that shit's gone, but you've gotta be pretty far away from it. And there's not that many places in in The States that you can do that anymore. But I understand what you're saying. I'm you know, like I said, it's I'm not in a whole other country, but you could talk to people up here on the mountain, and they don't know a damn thing about what you're talking about because this little world here, it doesn't have anything to do with anything else.
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So in Mexico, I'm in a normal world without that. Right? So I'm still in civilization without being labeled. Still, you know, can walk to supermarket, still can meet people. There's just there's a whole global world.
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And That's fair. I made Mexico into the backwoods. That is fair.
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There is backwoods Mexico, and and and what's interesting is I went to a steak rest so so there's left coated Mexico and there's right coated Mexico. And when I go to left coated Mexico, they're like, oh, like, you want you you want a coffee? Okay. We make coffees here. I'm like, yeah. I know. But I walked into a steak restaurant, and it it was really interesting because, like, you know, they're wearing, like, cowboy hat and boots, and, like, white people don't go there. Right? And so there's this kinda look like, wait. What? And, like, I'm like, I want a steak. And they're like, let's just steak. Me and my friend a steak. And, like, he needs to acknowledge me because I'm a muscular guy, but it's like these right coded things.
But I'm not Mexican. So, like, in left coded spaces, they don't acknowledge you. In right coded spaces, they wanna acknowledge you, but they don't know how to acknowledge you. And so watching that whole cascade is actually really interesting. So I I don't know. I think if I had to advertise it, the meet meet here is good. It's cheap. You can go fishing. There's really good beaches. If you don't do anything stupid, no one's ever gonna bother you. And you can kinda just live your life in civilization, but without them getting into your business.
That's really funny. Yes. That's this is what I got. But either way, it's a reference to buy my book. Send me your address. I'll send you my book. I love being here, and you're the first people to pick me up. And so I really, really appreciate you guys. And I really love that you understand esotericism because some of these people have no idea what the fuck's going on. And, like, there's this, obese Indian satanist who really didn't like me.
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Who got your book and didn't know how to read it? Well, you know, they didn't wanna fight with us at all, and we tried picking a fight with them. Yeah. That that that I've been around the esoteric circles for a while. Oh. You know?
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And they were they were gatekeeping, esoteric ideas themselves. They kinda keep their their followers, unaware of other ideas. So when we show up to talk about other ideas, they just, tend to ignore us.
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Okay. Well, maybe we could
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look at some of these esoteric texts together at some point. Sure. You talked about left coded and right coded Mexican restaurants. That also happens in so called esoteric circles, which talk in in, that sort of thing. So when you encountered that group of people
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Those are what we call universalists.
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Yeah. They didn't like the masculine energy. They didn't like that.
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But what if you alchemically just ground them up?
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That's why they won't that's why they won't go near me. Because, like, literally, dude, like, if you if you ever watch Weaving Spiders, like, they had one of the head guys of the OTO come on. Okay. And I lit that dude up. He was scared to talk. Okay. Okay. So I was really curious. Okay. So
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so okay. So I know Cali, all that stuff. Mhmm. I was curious, but, like, I I kinda don't wanna talk to them because I don't know what kind of people they're like. But they were left coded in the a OTO. Right? Like, there There are subreddits
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that Oh, man. Post about OTO activities. And just browsing through some of their top topics, you'll discover what is acceptable, and then there's a huge silence of material that's removed by the moderators because it's not allowed to be discussed.
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Okay. So there I mean, because, like, you know, Crowley was kinda down for whatever.
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You know? Here There are so many flavors of correct dilemma that they argue amongst themselves.
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Yeah. You can't you can't hardly get in a word edge wise with the Thelemites. They're too busy fucking arguing amongst themselves.
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I met Fighting over leadership, fighting over, you know, who is, you know, the proper heir to the throne of the Yeah. The the leader of the Before before I did YouTube or any of this shit, dude, I had I had,
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actual TV type show, and I was on the the, world's only pagan station, and I was on the biggest pagan radio station in the world.
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Okay.
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And they they dude, it's ridiculous with these people at the top. They are they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. They they've it it's it's all political games. There's been so much, you would almost wanna call it, nepotism, but it's not even nepotism because half the time, it's just good old boy type shit. Like this guy from the OTO. He's one of the heads of the OTO. He promotes this other guy up to one of the upper rankings, not because of his occult achievements and understandings, but because he was a editor at a a book company, and he said, well, get my book published. So he got a book published not because it was a good book, but because this guy wanted to get raised up in the ranks.
And then that guy, you know, get gets raised up in the ranks without having to prove his occult understandings. And this kind of thing has been happening for a very long time now into the point where the people in the upper rankings of these things don't have any fucking idea what they're talking about.
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Okay. Middle managers and administration. Also, I forgot to ask. Do you guys have an email list or no? Because I have an affiliate code, and I can, like, I can I think I sent you my affiliate code? I could pay you for every book you sell because that's what my business mentors told me to do.
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Yeah. No. That's a smart that's a smart, model. George Weisman did that, and his shit went from, like he was just doing it by himself to he had to hire, like, 10 people to try and keep up. Yeah.
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So if you have an email list, I had, a manosphere guy do that. I sent him some money, because right now, the manosphere likes me and these right coded, political circles like me. And I'm trying to move into these occult circles. But, I don't know if the OTO is gonna like the pillars of wisdom.
[03:10:39] Unknown:
I don't know if they're As long as you take my name out of it, they're the other guys are still friends with them. It's only me that lit the dude up. Like Oh, but and it as you can see, like, being a practicing laboratory, a cultist, I have different ideas. And the thing is is my shit stands up. And it stands up, and the thing is is then it also stands up in their understandings, and it fits into theirs. And because my shit works the way the world works. Like
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and it really pisses them off. Do do you think do you think they'll be okay with my book or they're gonna attack me as a leftist? No. No.
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They're fine with they're fine with this? I think on an individual level, there might be members who affiliate with certain Of course. That are going to want to buy the book because they wanna build an old cult library. So they're gonna wanna have the book on their shelf because no one else has it. So the exclusivity of having on the shelf, that that's that's an appealing thing. Whether or not they will promote it or talk about it or praise it or give it a recommendation, that's another story. But there are people who buy weird, strange, esoteric, one of a kind copies of books that they can't get anywhere else, and they'll buy a bunch of copies of them just to have them.
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Okay. I just okay. I I don't know.
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But in terms of joining, you know, one of their live streams, they they don't get along. This is this is kind of thing too. And, like, these these female owned businesses where it's all women working together, how long does that last before it falls apart?
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Because the whole thing is is once you took the lab out of it, everybody can have their own idea. But once you have the lab and the labs has its own idea, now your ideas have to fit in that. It puts the boundaries on it. They took the bounds off, and now they could say whatever kind of crazy shit they want. Oh, well, this means this.
[03:12:38] Unknown:
You know? Like, everybody's an alchemist now, and alchemy means whatever the fuck they want it to mean. That's what's happened with the red pill on Reddit. There was, you know, the blue pill posters, red pill posters, and now they're in their safe space of this purple
[03:12:52] Unknown:
Well, let's okay. Let me maybe this can be our closed conversation. Let me tell let me tell you about the red pill. What happened on the red pill was there's this guy named Red Pill School, and he's a low level politician, and his name got leaked. And he's he's like a dorky programmer. He aggregated everything. Then there's this guy, Rola Tomasi, who, he still hates me, and he sends me the insert out. Fucking Mjolnir. I've called him a blowhard many times, and,
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I it's the villain near vexing? Because that's that's Thor's hammer.
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Why is he doing that? It's I've talked to him. I've because he thinks it's cool, probably. So, basically, he he's a single issue guy, and his single issue is that women prefer better men. He calls it hypergamy that they're gonna throw you away. But
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Can't disagree with that.
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His sexual dating is that he's an alcohol distributor in Nevada in Reno, Nevada. And if you think about Reno 911 and that whole aesthetic, that's his aesthetic. And and he universalizes that Reno nine one one aesthetic to all women. Yeah. Doesn't he mostly date hookers? Yes. And I made the point that if you're paying for sex, that's a different role. Pay for it. Anyone can pay for it. Yeah. So my whole thing is I similar you have your laboratory, I would read my sociology books. I'd read my psychology books, and I'd apply those books, and I try to move things forward. He didn't want anything move forward, like the OTO that you discussed.
And from there, the censorship happened, and I got into this whole thing. And I'm like, I'm trying to move things forward, like and there's a whole ego thing because I'm just back then, 23 years old, he's 44, 40 five, and I'm just starting to write. I'm just starting to put things together. And he has all these minis that he's sending at me, And he sent an African American minion at me, like, I wanna say in October or something. So it's the the red pill was doomed because of Rolo because they were so busy sucking his dick that they never wanted to reinforce or expand their theory or refine their theory through outside stuff.
And then it got monetized with Fresh and Fit or Feds, and we're done. Like that
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Well, there's kind of is there a schism amongst the, the Fresh and Fit partnership?
[03:15:54] Unknown:
Dude, I can't believe that they're still that they that they didn't have just a crash recently because the one, whichever one, Myron Gaines or whatever, whichever one he is. I don't know if he's fresh or fit or whatever. But he, apparently, the other one's ex girlfriend was on whatever podcast, and he called ice on her while she was on on the show. Like, wow, douchebag.
[03:16:21] Unknown:
Wow. They what I believe is that there is the red pill, and we there's a lot of conspiracy stuff. There's vaccine stuff going on. There's a lot of economic discourse. There's beginning of a cult discourse. It was a completely unregulated space, and we were downregulated, and everything got funneled into Peterson and into Fresh and Fit into these very dumbed down spaces. And then
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now I'm And then I think we all went to, like, Rockfin and Rumble and shit. We got cut out of the main space. Right. Yeah. And and I'm with this book, I'm I'm trying to fight back into the center,
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and I think we have an opportunity to to do that. And I think when the book format, we could sell a shit ton of books before they know what the fuck's happening, get on to everyone's bookshelves. And by the time they do know what's happening, I already sold a whole bunch of books and they can go fuck themselves. So I I want you guys to get on that train because I know you have some controversial things to say. And when the ban hammer comes down, you're already on everyone's bookshelves. Like, this was
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behind me. So I I a % agree with you that it's coming again, and this has been they they like to give this enough they like to give you enough rope, you know, so you can hang yourself is what's going on. And Yeah. They're in this transition and they're letting everybody have the rope because you notice anybody that pays attention starts noticing different censorships have already made their way in and are already doing their thing. I mean, fuck. Vandalizing a fucking a Tesla is now an act of terrorism. Really?
Who gives a fuck about Teslas? Like, I mean, I think it's crazy that they wanna vandalize them, and and it's only directed at the Cybertruck. I mean, that's this is such a weird media nonsense. Heard the Cybertruck is faulty.
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Oh, they're horrible. They need them destroyed Yeah. So that they can they can recoup the cost. They did that with the
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earliest electric car where they they put it out and then they took it back. There's a whole documentary years ago about who killed the electric car. Yeah. So it's the same thing, rhyming. It's not repeating, but it's rhyming. So it's very similar over and over again, and the notices are seeing the pattern. And, you know, we're at the end of history period where it's all coalescing into something. You know, whether or not that happens, you know, this year within our lifetimes, but we can see it on the horizon that something is
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is coming along. Have you guys checked out substack?
[03:19:12] Unknown:
Yep. Because Marcus does. I'm not very good with computery stuff. Like, I I've lived I've only had, Starlink for, like, a year and a half. Before that, I didn't have no Internet or nothing.
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Well, Substack, there's a lot of interesting writing. Yeah. And it's a really good place to meet people and and figure out what they're reading. And sometimes you meet, like, deep crazy people, and sometimes you meet, like, more moderate people. And it it's a good exchange of ideas, and all the shit Redditors aren't there. So I've been I've been mailing out a lot of books because of Substack, and I think this is a good place for you guys to refine your writing. You know, you have these talks. You have your talks, you move it into writing, Clean that up. Boom. Book. You know? I have, like, a a workflow, you know, verbal written book. You know? So so I guess that I don't know. I love you guys. Thanks for having me on. Thanks for coming on, brother. Pillarsofwisdom.com.
[03:20:21] Unknown:
Pillars of wisdom. Send me your address. I'll send you guys some books. Send me, private chat. If you didn't get a copy paste that, I'll send it to your Okay.
[03:20:29] Unknown:
Well, can can you just can you just message it to me Yep. On Telegram? So send me those two, send me those two addresses. Yep. I got it. Yeah. And then I'll I'll have my my guy do that because,
[03:20:44] Unknown:
Bawlerson's the best, and I'd love for my book to be on this bookshelf. It's a it stays out there. It's a it's a hell of a live it's a hell of a library. I've got about at least I could fill half a dozen bookshelves at least. Okay. And and I would definitely appreciate having it. It's, I I would like to read through it. Perfect. Perfect. Well, thank you so much. Give me all that stuff. I'll have my guy send it tomorrow. What's your telegram, brother?
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Hold on. My Telegram?
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K. Do you have my public Telegram that you're I do have a public Telegram.
[03:21:23] Unknown:
It is hold on. It's it's well, you you can refer me.
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Mhmm.
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It's but it's it's my real
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it's my real middle name. Do you have you have it, Marcus? Do you have his telegram?
[03:21:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Just,
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just hook me up on that, Marcus. Okay. Yep.
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Send that over. Oh, I I can also, do you read PDFs? Because I I have a whole PDF library.
[03:21:50] Unknown:
Nice.
[03:21:52] Unknown:
Nice. Of my occult books.
[03:21:55] Unknown:
Very good. Yeah. I said I haven't had a a you know, the computer thing hasn't been my thing. I've got hey. Like, I've got everything from, like I've got original, Goishas before it was reprinted. Okay. I got, you know, you name it. Like, old old crazy asshole books. I've got and and some of them, I don't know that a PDF I would even necessarily want just depending on the book. Some books, a %, I'd read a PDF. But, like like, you take, like, something like, you know, Dante's Inferno. Yeah. You know? I mean, most ideals of hell are based off of Dante's Inferno. And and so one of the one of the real advantages to this is just the the just like your book has fantastic artwork, and it really does. His book's got fantastic artwork, guys.
But this has also got the the fantastic, plates in there. And going with the the story and everything. And the thing is is when you get them in the originals like this, people don't realize how many times they change things. And I'm not talking about just, like, crazy changes. What's up, Steve? Crazy changes like, like Peter Pan. The original Peter Pan, I like to also collect old fairy tales and things like that and the old, like, originals. And, dude, they're dark. And, like, Peter Pan, the original Peter Pan's not a nice guy. He he's a dude that just wants to be irresponsible, and he runs around killing people and shit. And then if if you decide to become a responsible adult and you're, like, one of his people, he'll kill you too. Okay. Like, there's no letting other people become adults. It's all about this, entire infantilization that he tries to maintain, and nobody else can be let free of it or else it breaks the whole thing so he kills him.
But, anyways, I'm I'm I I I love having, like, the old books. Like, look at that shit. Like, this Yeah. This is Dante's Inferno. Yeah. You know, like, look at this. And this is where most Christians actually got their ideals from of hell from and things like that. But I've got all kinds of shit like this, and, yeah, I'd I'd love to have yours too. Amazing. Amazing. Well, that's the most amazing compliment for me. Well, thank you so much.
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Tell your friends. Hopefully, they'll buy a copy from me. I'll send you guys a copy because you helping so much. And have a great evening, and send everything over to me. I'll send everything over to you. And, we'll do another one of these. Yep. You soon. We'll chat soon.
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Talk to you soon. Thank you.
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Bye.
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How'd you do with with selling tickets, Steve?
[03:24:50] Unknown:
Hopefully, it worked out. I don't know. Alright. We'll check I'll check-in the morning.
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It's froze before hoes, you fucking pimp,
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bitch. Yeah. In this case, I'm my own bro.
[03:25:06] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Yeah. Acceptable. Yeah.
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That not dude. May may actually be hoeing for the festival, but, you know
[03:25:21] Unknown:
Fucking fucking straight some fucking asshole. There's some stray dog under what apparently it killed Buddy. That's why I had to bail earlier.
[03:25:30] Unknown:
Oh, no.
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Yeah.
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Might wanna put Chloe in the green room again.
[03:25:38] Unknown:
Why don't you be alpaca?
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Yeah.
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Oh. Wow. Shit, dude. I'm sorry.
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Steve, can you put our guests in the guest room? Oh, yeah. There it is. Okay. Thank you.
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He's going in the woods when I took some plugs at him. I hope I got him. He's shit.
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Yeah.
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Almost got him with Suburban. Lost traction. Fucking dog. That sucks, man. These these pieces of shit fucking they bring these dogs out here and just kick them out. Yeah. And then eventually, the dog's starving, and it's not the dog's fault. Yeah. But also can't be letting things kill my animals.
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No. No. And then he gets away with it once. He's gonna come back.
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%. Yeah. %.
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That's fucked up.
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Yep. Buddy was such a good boy. Mhmm.
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Talks a little bit about I'll read that. Yet. I was just gonna ask him about the crucible and some of the other guys in in the in the group. We'll have to touch on that next time.
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He doesn't seem to be so, adversarial. I don't know if he would, enjoy their their, talking with those guys. They're very adversarial. I mean, I definitely, he can we could bring it up and ask and if we actually ever fucking start talking to them. Obviously, we got the debate coming up with Jim Bob. But,
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It's always on the horizon until it happens. When when is that, by the way?
[03:27:38] Unknown:
Whenever he just got back. I will I will shoot him an email right now as I as I'm being harassed.
[03:27:46] Unknown:
No. I mean, no. Just just curious. Because, yeah, again, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be on the road next week, and we'll be, like, getting back in, a little bit before we're supposed to go live the week after that. So next Tuesday is April 1. That's my birthday.
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Kind of a silly day there.
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Yep. So you're saying there's a there's maybe a chance of a stream on a Tuesday from us, maybe? I mean, I'll set up the I'll set up the stream and shit like that. I just can't participate. I'm gonna be driving. That could be As as next week. Right? Yeah.
[03:28:24] Unknown:
Yeah. It won't be next week. I'm sure of that. Probably the week after maybe, though.
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Okay. Well, yeah, we should be rolling in, I don't know, early afternoon that day. So what's that? The, eighth? Yeah. But no matter what, I'll be able to at least, like, set up a stream and, you know, connect a laptop to my hot spot and do all the setup stuff.
[03:29:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Although, hopefully, that's not the case for the Jim Bob debate because we really need all three of us here for that one. But
[03:29:19] Unknown:
Well, hopefully, it'll be the first. Our intention is to start relationships and build them over time and have going. Have conversations.
[03:29:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, I mean, shit, dude, if if GLO didn't mind coming back. You know? Oh, yeah.
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To be fair, I plan on being harder on the Ortho Bros.
[03:29:52] Unknown:
They do train themselves to have an answer to everything. They're apologetics.
[03:29:57] Unknown:
And I got your email, Sheree. Thank you.
[03:30:01] Unknown:
Everything in my chart is Aries or Leo, but I have a Virgo moon. That's what I'm told. I think astrology is metaphysical racism, personally.
[03:30:15] Unknown:
Functionally, that's kind of how it seems to be applied Yeah. In popular circles.
[03:30:20] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean but but I know people put stock in that. I I know because I've done hippie shit, and people have, you know, done my chart over the years and shit like that. So I do know. I just I don't I I put about as much stock into that as I do the actual stock market, and I don't have, enough capital for it.
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Yeah. I was gonna bring up this USD 1. Have you heard about this yet? Trump and his people have launched a stable coin.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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So it's not the CBDC. It's, stable coin, meaning one coin is $1. I mean, that's what makes it stable. Try to tie it to peg it to a US dollar. Isn't there already a USDC coin? There is a USDC coin, and there is a Tether coin. So those are two competing.
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No. They're gonna merge.
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You think all three of them are gonna become?
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So okay. Tether is gonna merge with USDC, but the whole bait and switch, because we're in the bait and switch administration Mhmm. The bait and switch is you're going to have seemingly competing coins and tokens that all process as a CBDC on the back end. Because, Swift, the international payment processor, has already built out the infrastructure to handle CBDC, not individual coins and tokens. So it doesn't matter what is forward facing on the back end and on the processing end. It's all going to be a central bank digital currency. And you see, you know, Trump and his kids all getting on board with various meme coins and stuff like that. There was Trump coin and Melania coin and, all of this nonsense.
And then they rug pulled it, like, immediately. Immediately, the Hawkgua girl lasted longer with the rug pull.
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Yeah. Very, very frustrating to watch all of this unfold. I agree, Astrid seventeen seventy six.
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Yeah. The there's plenty of parts in California where they accept all forms of green whether it be backs or nugs. Green accepted. And then, yeah, yeah, the real ID thing kicks in May of this year. Supposedly, they've kicked it down the road every year for a number of years. So There are people
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who opted in immediately, and they'll probably be privileged passengers with the real ID. Everyone else will be second, third class citizens without it.
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You know?
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Like, at Disney Fast Pass, you get to go to line faster. You you're playing. You're participating. Preferential
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treatment. No coin. That's great. That's great. Shit. Why hasn't anybody done that yet? It's made of freaking NFT of a big, beautiful bud. Called it nug coin. That's a moneymaker. Michael, go fucking go forth and prosper with that. Do that.
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Are we gonna see a Kushner coin?
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The that's called real estate in Gaza. That's the the Kushner coin. Real estate development projects in otherwise rubbleized neighborhoods. Soon as they can import all that Thai slave labor to clear it out and then rebuild it. Because as we all know, Jews historically very anti carpenter.
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Yeah. We talked a little bit about that while you were away.
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Yeah. Very anti carpenter. The last one they found, they nailed you across. So ever since then, it's been Thai slave labor.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The Pharisees, the Sadducees, and the Nazarites. Kinda got some notes here. A cock strong Samson on the no fap.
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There's no fapping.
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Make it happen, Michael. Make it happen, and then just, you know, drop, a hundred grand on all of us when you become a crypto billionaire.
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Hundred thousand computer coins.
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Right. Crypto shekels. We love the crypto shekels. We do. What the fuck? Oh, come on. Pay attention.
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Thanks to all of our chatters tonight. Didn't quite have a eye on rocks in here. Let's see.
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Rockfin shot was pretty pretty dead.
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See, Astrid seven seventy six. Any news or some chatters earlier? You know, I don't know. I haven't haven't made it a Rumble account. I put the Rumble app on my phone and saw there was a David Ike live interview stream. So I clicked on that for a while this afternoon, but there was a lot of advertisements on the app. So I can understand the hesitancy to not wanna sign up for Rumble and, you know, verify with a telephone number.
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Yeah. Well, I I gotta I gotta bounce, gentlemen. I don't know about you.
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Yeah. No. We're, way overtime.
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Yep. We gave him we gave him some extra minutes For sure. On the stream, if we run short next week, that's okay.
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Yeah. Three and a half hours. And I I will I will make sure that everything's set up next week. I'll just be driving.
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Sure. Good. Good. Good. Alright, guys. Well, we'll probably Marcus and I will probably go over some, Chase Haggard's videos. Another one of his debates, we went through one privately.
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Mhmm.
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Alright, kids. Well, y'all be good or be good at it or however that works.
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Behave yourself.
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See you next Tuesday.
You win. 9, dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt, eight, five, four, three, two, one. Fight.
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Hey. Hey. Hey. There we are.
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Right on times, dudes. Punctual. Right.
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Right?
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This is punctual as it released the JFK documents.
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Way more punctual than the release of the JFK documents or the Epstein files.
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I I see that he did have his hot pen out today again, though.
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The auto pen?
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No. He he don't autopen it. That that the autopen has been fallen under disgrace.
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What's the pen? So the pen fifteen club he's in?
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The Trump is definitely in the Penn fifteen club. He is. Yeah. Penn is my dear. He is. His hair is GLO.
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Alright. He's trying to compete with Roosevelt. He's like, you know, that dude got 4,000 in a matter of twelve years.
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I can do 4,000 in three days. Yeah. It'll be the best 4,000 executive orders anyone's seen. Believe me, they'll be beautiful. As long as you do accordion hands, it's fine. We just gotta do the accordion hands. But, yeah, let's, let's bring up tonight's guest, returning guest, celebrated author, GLO. Very nice to have you back. Good to see you. Hope you're doing well.
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Got the book here. All aligned properly? Yeah. It looks like a camera.
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Dealers of wisdom.
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You're you're in there. Can you hear me?
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I can't hear them. I can't hear them at all. Really?
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Wow.
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I can't hear anyone.
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We we can we can see you and hear you.
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We hear
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you. It'll make retorts really hard.
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Right? Walk the pillars of wisdom with a new cover. Might have seen it before. No. I can't hear that.
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Maybe the just lineup settings in StreamYard with the device.
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Yeah. That's what it probably is. I had a I had a hard time with that for the longest time. Yeah. It was actually my input. I was having trouble with it. Didn't wanna pick up as it kept I'm there, but I can't hear anyone.
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Oh, we'll keep talking about pens. I got a blue pen. I don't have my red pen. I wish I had a purple Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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I also have I yeah. I can hear the YouTube, but I can't hear them.
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Weird.
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And I don't know if they can hear me. Yeah. Yeah. We can totally hear you.
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So it's your audio out that isn't lined up on your device. Okay. Now I can hear them. Now I can hear them. Now you can hear us? Nice. Yeah. Heck. Yeah. But it's How you doing, buddy? I'm doing really good.
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I, I spent two thousand dollars on my new book cover, so
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that was It is beautiful.
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If that's that's kind of my big thing right now. Yeah. No. No. We're good. Thank you. Side down, Marcus. There you go. Yeah. Well, I just wanna look at it from all the angles. Oh, and if you want, I'll send you guys more copies. You know? So
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Maybe there's, some some chatters tonight who wanna
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Grab up a copy. Yeah. Yeah. Copies to read? Where do they where do they go? Before we before we get into it, where do they go to grab a copy of the book?
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They go to the pillarsofwisdom.com.
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Okay.
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And, I got a new cover because, a chemist and a lawyer aren't artists and, spent $2,000 on a real artist who did her job really well.
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Yeah. And,
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and so yeah. So that's the pillars of wisdom. And, yeah. I didn't I didn't realize what it was gonna take to put a book together.
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It was a lot of work.
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It's I it's worth it. I think as having been on Reddit and having been deplatformed and seeing all the deplatformings, I think we need to push forward into the book format because right now I'm on Substack or you guys are on YouTube, and another deplatforming is inevitable at some point. And, I I think, you know, we agree on some issues. We don't agree on some issues. I think it's very important that people like us, our voices are heard, our voices are preserved. And in the physical format, that's gonna happen. And on the digital format, it's not you know, there's there's a lot of amazing YouTube content that's impossible to find right now.
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We know. We're part of a lot of it.
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Yeah. So, and, you know, when you mail things, they they can't stop you. Right? So if you have a strong network that gendered language that we're gonna allow tonight
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to mail things. Uh-oh.
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Oh, come on. Post
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when you post the
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on. We'll take that fucking lap, Marcus. Jesus. Yeah. So That was bad.
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Right. You caught me with that. But, yeah, I I I highly recommend that, let's say, your group coalesce and publish something because, they they will get you at some point. You know?
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I have I have no less than three books that I need to write. I just I work eighteen hours a day, seven days a week, and it's, it's difficult to find
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time to to do that. I would say, you know, you guys know my book really well. Right? So I would say you have a certain amount of time you can allocate. And, oh, hold on. Chair. You have a certain amount of time you can allocate, And so just just split the labor up amongst your team.
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You know? And that way, you can process total would you say it took you to put this together and and have it published and whatnot? How many Okay. Me or all my men?
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Everybody altogether.
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All of them. Oh, so I have some articles there from ten years ago. So, and then, I have a couple of PhDs in that book. There's a lot of proofreading. The artist, I don't know, like, 300 or something something, like, completely preposterous, just because I I wrote about a lot of deep topics. There's, like, a a a work section on how to get a job. So there's, programmers and people in management. So, yeah, I I would say that if you can just aggregate labor, I think that's the best way to go about it. And then that way, your bulk won't seem dry because over time, you'll have different voices and the chapters will be distinct because there's only so much of you that you can give.
And
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so it just just tag team the whole operation, I would say. That's one of the topics of the book is, arriving at a place of surplus where you're able to output more labor, more work.
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I I I would say as men, you only have a certain labor capacity. Right? You only have a certain lab intellectual capacity. And once you hit your limit, tag team your boy in and have him take over. And I think you guys have an amazing network of people. And and I think you could do it because, otherwise, you just have these opinions that flow float around on these papers and these scrolls, and they're never aggregated into anything. Right? And then they just kinda disperse. Right. So
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and then Another topic is where we got the the surplus of labor, you know, man working and, needing that to bulk up and gather strength. The other topic is overcoming kind of the the loser scripts, the loser mentality. There's sort of this idea that still exists where someone's doing well and they're showing off, and then people wanna knock them down a few pegs, and they can't celebrate and lift everybody up together. Especially, let's just focus on men tonight. We don't wanna talk about the other sex. We wanna tackle men, sharpening other men. This is kind of the point of our debate format is men sharpening men.
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I I I would say that if you look at any anything, like, any object in front of you, there's a lot of men there. Right? Like, every pen, every every table, every laptop, every car has a lot of different men in it. Right? And so as Americans, you guys are have this individualism, which is really toxic. It's unnatural. That's not how people thought people are are tribal. And if you can aggregate labor with other men, you can you can cross that threshold to produce whatever you need to produce. Right? Like, for me, I have very good creative rhetoric. But on on very specific types of writing, let's say, on economics or helping men get jobs, I'm weak.
And so what I know where my weaknesses are, and I I don't try and improve on my weaknesses. I just try and find men who are strong there. Right? So and then the other thing is that, like, you never really know for sure. Like, if if I ask you, hey. Do like, can you draw a circle? Right? You can't. Right? So the same way people spot you in bodybuilding, you you need a spotter. You need an editor. So I I I would say that. And then the other thing is that, you know, we're all mortal, and your peak labor capacity is gonna diminish over time. At some point, you're gonna peak physically, intellectually in terms of your labor output. And I think it's important to, do your best work while you can, before that inevitable, biological decline. Right? So, like, Julie Savola, wrote, Revolt Against the Modern World when he was 35. Right? So we you actually have a lot less time as a man than you think. Right?
So I I don't know. I see I I see your podcast. I know you're really amazing, guys. I know you're really smart. You're holding my book, and my book is a product of a team. And I know you have an amazing team, and I don't trust YouTube. And I think you could and I think you could do something similar, you know, and and, it'll take a lot of work, but they will purge you. Like, a lot of the men going their own way content, a lot of the pandemic content, all of that stuff, is just gone. Right? And I and I think you have a very loyal following. Right? And so you can push your book out to them. So, yeah, my book is cool. Yeah. You guys should buy it.
Your audience should buy it. They're gonna love it. But, if I can do it, you can do it. You know? And I think I I I I think that's what I want the message to be. Like, I had my own team. You have your own team. I know you're intelligent. You guys pushed into me intellectually. I feel that intellectual strength you guys have. Right? It's it's like if you have a reproductive capacity, you have to reproduce. Right? And and you're only Viral for so long. You're only, intellectual for so long before you start getting Joe Biden. Right? Before you Yeah. So,
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That's a good point. The idea that over time, a man might soften.
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Well, you got you got a extremely your whole point is extremely valid because I I well, that part Marcus is talking about, we'll discuss that. But the other part of the point, you see guys like Freeman Fly, and that guy was a juggernaut of information. And Yes, sir. He got put down by, YouTube. He got put down by the the fact is, is Steve's already been kicked off YouTube. I've been booted, had all my subs ripped away. Even today, regularly, like, last month, I lost 19 subs, and I didn't even do anything. Like I've been kicked off of YouTube for six years now. Yeah.
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It was 2019. I didn't even I started the channel in 2018. I made it less than a year before they were like, nah.
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Well, that's what you get for showing the CDC website.
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Yep. It was even before that. All I was doing was talking about free speech. They were like, no, fucker. You you gotta go.
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But you you've got an absolutely valid point. It's without putting it in hardcover. There's brilliant talks I was involved in that are just gone. You can't find them. They're just gone.
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Well, what I would recommend is take your talks, translate them to, like, like a script. Right? Like Yeah. Do do an audio to text, and then from there, have Chat GPT or something or tool annotate those points. And then from there, work that into an article. Right? So, obviously, don't have Chat GPT write your stuff, but you can have, notebook, LLM organize your notes for you. And it can it can help you find stuff that you're looking for. Right? So that searching task, which is so labor intensive for your book writing, you could use those language models to strip out all the good points for you. Right?
And, that can help you get past certain labor thresholds, which would be, really hard for you, otherwise.
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Right. So you're talking about writing a book. A lot of people think that means sitting down at a typewriter, a blank sheet of paper, and just starting from there. But the process of writing is really gathering ideas and testing those ideas. And that's Yeah. You your lifetime up until about ten years ago, publishing on on subreddits that are now
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no longer there. Your content's been erased from from history. You guys, in reality, already have a book. It's just in an oral tradition Yep. Effectively. And you need to transfer that oral tradition into a written tradition. And with the advances of AI, you could really do a lot of the organizing and sorting, and then and then really under like, once you have the general structure of your book, then you can start delegating labor. But unless you do it, I would say, okay. Trump's in office for four years. Right? Then they're gonna bring something else, and they're gonna hard pivot somewhere else. And, there's, like, agenda twenty thirty. Right? And under that agenda twenty thirty, there'll be new psy ops. There'll be a war with Iran.
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There'll be all sorts of stuff. Right? Where where do you think the hard pivot is gonna go in, after 2028?
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Okay. So one of the people who I I met from the red pill, he, he was a globalist. So he worked for Goldman Sachs. Okay. And he went to Davos. Mhmm. And and he and he basically told me that information is the new gold. Yeah. And so We we've known that for, like, a decade. And so they have to pivot you to central bank digital currency, and they have to start farming you for for information. Right. Absolutely. They have to. And, so so there has to be infrastructure in place that's gonna be doing that. And then on top of that, they there's gonna be a surveillance capitalism that you already saw. Like, there was, smart meters. Have you guys ever read, silent weapons for quiet wars?
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Dude, I I got I got a copy of behold a pale horse horse Okay. In 1994 when I was, what, 16. Okay. And I read it like it was the freaking bible. I sell shirts on my merch store of Bill Cooper on a pale horse. Like, it's So It it it's real like that.
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Yeah. So you can see that okay. If you look at the African American rap identity, right, you you know that it's completely artificial, and there were channels
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identity? Yeah. Like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, that makes sense.
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He's talking about studio gangsters.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they they channeled the entire African populate African American population into a certain style of thinking. Right? Or there's an SJW thing that they channel people into post 2013. Right? So there's the pandemic identity where they channel people. Right? So they're gonna do it again. There was a Ukraine identity. They these people download the software. Basically, like, in Behold a Pale Horse, there's Durant Corporation. They're gonna write out these identities, then the media is gonna implement those identities on those people. And when you guys don't go along with it, you're gonna be treated like cool locks under, like, the Bolshevik regime of the '19 you know, nineteen twenties. Right?
And because you're not going along with the next thing, there's gonna be, like, a cool Jordan Peterson, a cool Ben Shapiro. Traffic's gonna be funneled there, and then you're gonna be downregulated. And then you're gonna be downregulated, downregulated, downregulated until you're in this unknowable corner. And, so so I I I guess that like, they the the thing that I'm most concerned about is when you look at Chat GBT or DeepSeq. Right? Before, we would speak in euphemisms. Right? Like like, we you could say something like basketball Americans and just gonna be like, like like, YouTube doesn't know, when when I say basketball Americans, what I'm truly meaning.
Right? But the language models are so good, and the voice detection is so good that that if when I run this YouTube video through a language model, I'll see all the main points. And from there, I can I can trace everyone's ideologies, actually, to an 90%, accuracy?
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Right? This is why I'm not allowed on YouTube because instead of basketball Americans, I just say the blacks. And I have a a ton of the blacks that cohost shows with me. That I have, like, I have
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three black cohosts. Do we capitalize all of them in black? Is that a capital b black?
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Uh-huh.
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Like, capital letter b, l a c Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Capital t, capital b. I wanna be dramatic to act in the right The blacks. Like like Donald Trump says, the blacks. You gotta do the accordion hand. That's that's identitarianism.
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So we have the blacks.
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Maybe maybe if you do the accordion hands, it it makes it softer.
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I'm seeing a euphemism on threads, a lot of, w w's. I think that stands for white women. So there's a white women.
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I like Michael Malice's awful. AWFL, affluent white female liberals. Liberals. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm a I'm a big fan of that. Dude, shout out to Michael Malice. I hope he's doing well.
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But you have to be careful with these language models because our euphemism game that we played in 2016, and you'll see that euphemism game played in my book, actually, which is how I got past, Steve Hoffman and his censorship machine. Later on, they called on. And so it's it's interesting how long are we gonna be able to play these language games for, or it's gonna be like chess where they they solve the game. And Well, that's why all George Carlin did to me. Symbolism.
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That's why you've gotta get into the language of symbolism is the only place that they can't yet.
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Well, it's it's the place in which they reign too. Yeah. The symbolism.
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Because they're really bad at it.
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But they've captured they've cornered the whole fucking market. They put out a lot of books.
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A lot of their books are fake. And then the other thing, like, now that we have a really advanced, you know, language model, right, given to us effectively for free. In Chinese. But if you take that language model right now, right, and and you go back in time and you start thinking about your bots that you faced, it's very clear that they had that language model ten years ago. And retroactively, you can figure out when you were getting bought it in your comments. Right? So hold on. My chair keeps pooping down.
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You've got too many gains.
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Yes. Right?
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The eggs in Mexico are cheap. It's in I can get I can do that 36 eggs for, like, $3. Wait for some rancheros? There's they've they've good farms here. They have good meat here.
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So You gotta graduate from the huevos rancheros to the chilaquiles.
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Chilaquiles. There's Dvoriatos.
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Yeah. Divorced eggs? Chilaquiles are where it's at, though, man. I I got My ducks poop out eggs everywhere that they're walking. They just poop them out. Duck eggs are good, dude. Those are so good.
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Yeah. They poop them buggers out all over the place. I'm walking down the driveway today. There's a duck egg laying right in the middle of the driveway waiting to pick it up so we didn't drive over it.
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Yeah. Sell them shits, dude. They're worth more than crack right now. You can fucking turn up on a screen and turn up in a fucking trench coat. Be like, hey, buddy. You wanna buy some eggs? You could, dude. You could. You could do that right now. They're fucking they're expensive. You go to a grocery store lately, dude, they want fucking $14.99 for 18.
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These are duck eggs. They're the good ones. Not even Faberge eggs. Right?
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Right. Well, those are gay eggs. The you you don't want those. You don't want the Faberge ones.
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Do you guys have a good source fucking swishy. Do you guys have a good source of flour, like bread flour?
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Yeah.
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We we grind our own. Okay. Because I got a bread machine, And if if you have good milk, good eggs, good flour, you can really have a completely different level of toast every morning.
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Yeah. Sourdough is not the same when you buy it. If you fresh grind it. Oh my god.
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Yes.
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Well and you're supposed to leave a little bit for the next batch. Right? Yeah. Like, there's a couple of bakeries in San Francisco that have been, you know, recycling the same dough for over a hundred years.
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Yeah. The mother and it gets more sour as it gets older. Uh-huh. So it tastes it tastes even better as it gets as it ages.
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So as men, we're talking about making our own sandwiches?
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Well, this is when my wife makes my sandwiches. That's before you have a wife. After you have a wife, then she makes your sandwiches. Well well,
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why mine makes her own tortillas. Yeah. I
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I I think one of the ways we can set the culture is by having an aesthetic. Right? And so when people eat at your house, they they absorb the aesthetic. Right? So if this is your bread, this is your steak, this is your eggs. Right? And and you can have a very strong impact. You know, instead of pulling someone into a stressful political conversation, if you just fed them duck eggs, they'd be like, woah. Woah. Woah. Like, this is much better for me. Right? So we can start arguing with food by inviting people over. Like, I have a a pizza oven, and I make my own, pizza dough. And when people come over, it's I think the food argument is actually one of the strongest arguments you can make.
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Yeah. I I agree, man. Clean food, it there's nothing like it. I have a a good buddy who, goes by Texas Slim, and he's been on you know, now it's a, like, multiple hundred person mission, but he was on a one man mission to reintroduce Americans to their local rancher. And he has a thing called the beef initiative where everybody involved in the beef initiative has, like, the cleanest beef ever. There's no shots. There's no hormones. There's no nothing. It it's just, you know, pasture grazed cattle, and he freaking kills it. Now it is hands down, like, the best stuff you've ever tasted in your entire life. In fact, GLO, if you're not familiar with the beef initiative, go go fucking go take a look. Okay. Yeah. I I I can't recommend it enough.
And there's probably a rancher near you, and his whole thing is go shake that guy's hand. Have a handshake relationship with the people that grow and produce the food that you can't personally grow and produce on your own, and you're gonna be way better off. Along with that, there's the mantra of change your consumption model, and that is all encompassing. Change what you put into your body, change what you put into your brain, change how you you know, just change your consumption model and make it more localized, make it more serious, make it more productive.
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So okay. So let me add to that. Right? So when you produce a commodity, right, so you guys have my book. Right? So you can you can kinda field me. You can understand who I am through my language, through my art, and as that physical product. Right? Now that's as a writer, but also as a rancher or as a baker or really as an electrician. Right? So if you tear down the wall and you see, you can see the kind of person he is by how he set up his wires. Right? Mhmm. So one of the ways where we can really beat out the globalist is through our labor because our labor will always be higher quality than theirs because they're fake. And so if if people start buying local, they'll feel that labor, better.
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And it incentivizes you to support your community, to actually be an active community member. You know? Not just, you're out there on a fucking island, but you're taking part in the things that help your community thrive.
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Yeah. So that's yeah. That's really what what were what are our topics for are we arguing, or what are we I mean, we can argue if you want, dudes. I I don't know. I don't know your format. I'm I'm I'm following your format.
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You're a returning guest, so you've had a you've had a we've had a debate about, alpha maleness, and now we're just kind of deliberating on, topics that we need to go deeper on and further debate to discover.
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What I would recommend is there's a lot of people that maybe you're not in full alignment with, but you're in relative alignment with. So there's this guy who's following me on Substack, and he's like a a wine merchant in in Sweden. And I I was gonna talk about, like, alchemy and fermentation with him. Right? Or in the manosphere people, let's say we don't fully agree on everything, but it's still an opportunity to discuss things. Right? So I think I think we're kinda segregated into these certain little corners, and it's important to branch out and say, okay.
What can we, talk about? What what topics are, you know, follow your format, which topics don't follow your format, and then you can start getting into this, cross pollination. So I I guess, like, you know, with my book, I was able to hit parts of the manosphere who, let's say, believe in stoicism or believe in, like, a very hard materialism, or in an economic reductivism, right, where they they they talk about, like, cost per fuck with a woman. Right? So by reaching out to them and saying, like, look. Like, maybe agree, maybe we don't agree, but, like, here's some ideas that, emotionally, you you probably don't care about. Right? But let's let's get this cross pollination going.
That that really helped me, because I I think a lot of our core issues, like, no one's really gonna move you on that. Right? So I I I guess that I would say just what I've been doing is I've been reaching out to a lot of people and and mailing my book to a lot of influencers to see if, I could expand my reach. And I think you guys are really, really strong, and you can do the same thing, and build out your network. There's a network theory where every node that you add to your network, there's an exponential value gain. Right?
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So that's So what do you say to shy guys who get embarrassed when their phone rings, and they don't wanna certainly don't wanna talk to other guys, and they just don't wanna be social. And then they're just their social batteries drain, and their whole identity becomes the guy who's just home alone playing video games, reading Reddit forums. Not really associating with other guys, but just, he associates himself with the the loner identity, the hermit identity. Doesn't wanna be hurt by anybody. Just wants to be left alone.
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There's a lot of improvements that you can make that you're just not thinking about. Right? Like, maybe it's like drinking bone broth. Maybe it's having a bread machine. Maybe it's talking to your local rancher. Right? And and, you know, people don't value those things, but you're fundamentally changing who you are through what you consume.
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Right? Are you still using the, the beta male idea calling some men alpha, some beta, some are sigma? Have you continued to use that language as a shorthand for understanding?
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I mean on our end? I I I would say that it like, I have to match my speech to who I'm speaking to. Right? And so if if they speak in those terms, then I should speak in their language. But, you know, once we're kind of in a more conspiratorial world, like, you know, we could say that they obey the ideological state apparatus. Right? We could, you could say that they're a class trader if they're they're pushing the vaccine. Right? So I think you just gotta match your your language, and you you just kinda it's kinda like sometimes when you speak with a southerner, like, you gotta format your sentences differently so that you grow more amenable, to their discourse. Right? So for me, you can see my book. Like, I I'm really interested in in meeting people at their level.
So, like, there's Anthony Dream Johnson, right, who, runs the Manosphere, and he has a very huge reach. And he likes alpha male and beta male, and his audience likes that terminology. Maybe it's simplistic. Right? But, I was able to give them psychoanalysis. I was able to give them economics. I was able to give them mysticism because I I played into their game. So you you gotta you gotta work that format. Right? But, you know, on the other side, some people are really frustrating, and you wanna you wanna attack them. You wanna be like your your beta male. Like, fuck off. Gotcha. You know? I I guess the question I'll expand now is to say with the
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ability for men to learn to be social as a active muscle to exercise their social muscles, to get out to talk to other men, to not go behind the sort of I'm a shy guy. I'm just kind of a lonely guy, kind of rooting in the corner of the shadows and getting men out to talk to other men. You you talk the red pill is all about, you know, dating strategy and talking to women. Is there a strategy for men to go out in the world, hardware stores, grocery stores, just out and about their daily life and acknowledge that other men are living lives and connecting with them on a on a meaningful level? I I I think it's men are really strange in that
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they usually don't relate man to man, unless you're, like, a political extremist. Right? So they usually relate indirectly through an object. Right? So this, meet exchange that you guys are doing. Right? Like, the centers that meet because these maybe these people are a little bit shy or, you know, they're they're meant a few words. Right? They can kinda just talk about the meat or the grilling instead of having all the attention on them.
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It's like when young when young men join Discord servers, usually, communities are on specific games, then they can find other men to play games with. That's sort of what young men do. Once you get to a point where you're like, well, I'm not really an active gamer anymore. I'm a middle aged man. I Uh-oh. Wanna join Discord servers. That's kind of a weird thing.
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Right. So I would say write a book. Right? So, you're really smart, and you could you know, I'm really competitive. I'm a very competitive person, and I I think you are too. And so by writing a book, you can push out a whole bunch of those establishment normies, establishment beta men, beat them at their own game, beat them out on the bookshelf. And, I think, you know, I'm 35. Right? So that's a form of competition, which isn't juvenile. But, like, you know, to me, it feels like a video game. Right? Because, on Reddit and on Substack, writing is very gamified.
Mhmm. So it makes it makes it more fun. It's like a writing video game. Right? So oh, man. My chair's booping me up and down. I think,
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I think men need legitimate peer groups. And we've been told for a very, very long time that either that's gay or that's retarded. And if we don't have a a pressure release, you know, where and sometimes it's like a basketball court. Sometimes it's, you know, jiu jitsu. Sometimes it's fucking just being on the job and going to work. And you get a bullshit with a coworker or whatever while you're in the middle of your task. But if you don't do that and you just fucking swallow it, then the only thing you're gonna be is Bill Burr's dad.
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Oh, I see. I I I think, like, if we go back to, what is it? Quiet Weapons for Secret Wars or the like, let's the Unabomber Manifesto. Right? There's certain text that can really shape the youth and really do a lot of political damage. Right? And so, you know, I'm all for friendship and stuff like that, but I think it's really cool if you could write something that has a cultural impact that gets into the hands of the youth, shifts things. And, you know, the globalists really are bad writers, So it's gonna be very hard for them to pull people out of your train of thought.
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Right? Bro, every time I get on an airplane, I bust out my laptop. I pull up the PDF copy of Industrial Society and its future, and I just scroll it and, like, casually read it and hit an e cig and a fucking weed vape the entire time, and nobody says shit. I'm sitting there in my seat. I don't go to the bathroom like a fucking chump to go take a drag off of anything. I sit there in my fucking seat with Ted Kaczynski's manifesto up on my screen and just casually fucking read and scroll down, and nobody says a word. It's the best way to fly. I can't recommend a better way of being on an airplane than industrial society and its future.
Nobody says shit to you. It's fantastic.
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Have you so Dugan wrote a book on Heidegger, which is actually very readable, from from Radix. And I think you'll like it because Heidegger writes in a deliberately obtuse language. But if you like industrial society in its future, you're gonna like Heidegger. Yeah. Without without his verbal gymnastics that he's playing on you.
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No. Heidegger is fun. Great. Yeah. Fantastic reads.
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So that's I start start a male book club, men's only book clubs. I I would say I mean, I was running a book club Mhmm. Before my book, and we would read hard left and hand hard right literature together. And from there, I was able to develop a a a certain writing ability in my man that I was then able to roll into my book. Right? Because from there, I could choose the best man and then roll it roll them forward. Right? So I I think, I I did a I did a men's book club. I did it on, Sublime Object of Ideology, which is Frodo Marxism, which is, there's just some of that in my book.
And then I did, Julius Fuller's Ride the Tiger, and then we did Bhagavad Gita. Right? So you can provide this very, very cheap education to pull men up. And from there, you're gonna have the requisite labor necessary to, compete in the political space, which I think is very, very exciting. I'm, like, urging you guys, please. Like, do it. Do it. Do it. You know? Like, get get in the boxing ring because I I think you can fuck some people up. And and you'll know when you're fucking people up because, the globalists will start writing, PhDs and master's thesis about you. Like, I've I've three written about me, and and for me, that started when I was 24. Right? So I wasn't as strong of a writer. I wasn't as strong of a thinker. So I think the bar is very low to get him into the ring because most people don't think of it as a ring. Right?
But just get in there. And a lot of these sociology professors are a lot weaker than you think, and they they have a lot of other engagements. So you could
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You're talking writing nonfiction?
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Writing nonfiction.
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Writing fiction with strong male role models?
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I mean, I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, I it it might be fun for you, but I I'm just thinking about, like, you know, I believe that, you know, the eat or be eaten. Right? So the more conflict you can get into, the more you know you're on target. So so get get into some conflict, you know, as a man. I think we need a resurgence
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of hero's journey type literature, and we've gone very, very, very far away from that. I think the hero's journey inspired very young men to be bold and to do things that they wouldn't ordinarily do.
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But then, you know, you need to get that into the hands of those young men, right, which are ADHD Zoomers, which I I have experience with. You you know, don't write for yourself, write for
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the people who need you. Right? So the so the Zoomers now coming up with TikTok and this culture of ephemeral sort of a Skippy toilet memes and stuff where everything is just you look at it, you laugh, and then you move on the next thing, not really sticking with anything. And we're talking about writing books and publishing them in hardcovers, and you can hold it. And this is like a product you made. You can be proud of it. Now there's a lot of, like, the the TikTok ban was was concerning because people felt like their identity, their entire identitarian, personality that they had formed was on TikTok, and now that was gonna be taken away from them. So they felt like this grieving and loss before it even happened, and it was kind of just dangled in front of them, and then it was brought back.
Can you talk about the carrot and the stick a little bit?
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I mean, the pandemic had was the most obvious carrot and stick there. Right? But I I think there's a consumer identity where people know who they are through the commodities that they purchase. But as the economy gets worse and as the middle class gets worse, they they can only buy things with their view time.
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Right. And So in in in dating and, like, early nineties, late nineties, the peacocking and the club life and the extravagant lifestyles, now we're kind of tightening the purse strings, and many men's wallets are, you know, emptier and emptier, and they don't they're not bringing in as much money as they had. They don't have the disposable income. Is there concern among other men about, the remember the hipster movement? Everyone was eating bacon and doing mustache tattoos on their fingers and everything. Now we're kind of in the real, the real tightening of the purse strings where every dollar really counts.
Well, we also have sports betting and cryptocurrency gambling, all these things. So so money is very real, and then it's very unreal. And there's a very confusing identity of, you know, do I dress with gold chains? Do I dress like a rapper? Do I dress like I got a lot of money? Do I spend all the money I have to to dress really well, to impress?
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I would say I would say look for arbitrage opportunities. Right? So here in Mexico, I'm really valuable in ways that I wasn't valuable in The United States. Right? So there's a lot of trading that can happen. And when you have these personal relationships, you can trade your labor. But I just think that the economy is gonna keep sliding down lower and lower and lower, because that's what the globalists want. They're gonna turn off the faucet. So I I guess I guess that. That's for me, what was the question? I feel like I don't wanna pivot too much. It's just about
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male identity tied to a bank account, and it's like there's this idea that you'd as a man, you could get that fuck you money, and then you could do anything you want. And now there's a lot of men who don't have that fuck you money, and they're feeling the, the oppression of the the slavery and the wage slavery. There's a whole neat movement to not employment, education, or training, the HIKI KIMORI movement, the Peter Pan syndrome, the failure to launch, men who are just in their parents' homes and year after year after year, and there's no they don't have an economic game plan figured out?
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I mean, I would say you can find value by increasing liquidity. Right? So the more people see you, the more people can find value. So so I think that's one position, and then you can gain an identity through what you do. Right? So if you're not moving, like, a lot of people killed themselves during the pandemic, right, because they weren't doing anything. So if you build something, if you make something, you're gonna find that value through your labor because the labor not only trans transforms commodities, it also transforms the person performing the labor. Right?
So as long as you're active, like, I I was Exercise. I wasn't I wasn't an effective, writer for a long time. Speaking of Jazzercise, you know, I worked as a personal trainer for a long time, and the group fitness, person wasn't there. So I I had to teach a whole bunch of middle aged women to Jazzercise. And it was it's it's really difficult because you have to be really upbeat, and you and I have the same kind of cadence in our speech, and you have to be like, let's go. You know, you have to, like, really,
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really do that. So So now we're talking Charisma on command.
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I I think, like, you know, there's a lot of overweight middle aged women, and if you get drafted to do that, I think you should just perform the role. If someone needs you to do something, it's in within your moral, boundaries, you should just go for it, even if it's a jazzercise instructor. When before you were doing rehab and bodybuilding. Right? So I think that's
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Yeah. I I'm still thinking about young men who are you know, they turn 18. They start a YouTube channel. I just saw a guy who's showing up in everyone's recommendations, and he has, like, this, like, a thirty minute video talking about his pornography. He actually started watching porn at, like, you know, 12 years old or something. And six years later, he's making a video about it on YouTube, and it's like,
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dude, you really wanna you really wanna put that stuff online at Well 18 years old. I mean, let's let's talk about pornography. Right? So what's interesting about pornography I keep singing lower and lower, like The United States.
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It's
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There's really not that much media being made. Right? So if you look at Netflix, Netflix is gone. Hollywood, they got rid of all of their creative perverts. There's nothing there. There's nothing on television. Right? But the porn industry is still creating culture. You know, I'm not for it, but it is a a cultural form. Right? And so the pornographic industry right now is the strongest cultural form.
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Right. Because I'm seeing this 18 year old guy, and then next to him is a girl in a bikini doing a dance video, and then Bia Buffa is a girl with her top falling off. And here's this guy in the middle on YouTube thumbnails just being like, I wanna be a no fapper. I I can't I can't
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I can't I can't live like this anymore. He's Hey, real quick, fellas. I'm sorry. I have to dip out. I have to go do, another show. This is gonna stay open, all that kind of stuff. But,
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yeah, you guys you guys rock. For your IRL meetup April fourth.
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Yeah. We're we're meeting in person, just outside of Nashville, Tennessee. Not this weekend, but next weekend. It's gonna be live music, live podcast, live comedy, camping, great food, and it's $90 for the entire in a second. Like, we're we're fucking we're we're giving it away because I have a blue collar audience. No.
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But yeah. For that to buy a ticket? ThirdEyeCarnival.com.
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Perfect.
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Fourth of July. That's gonna be a a big one.
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Dude, we're gonna shoot fireworks off the roof of a 7,000 square foot art gallery and probably some guns. We're there's probably gonna be guns involved. I can't promise that, but I can promise that. Yeah. Fireworks
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in, Pueblo, California
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celebrating the fourth of July like Americans know how I can do a bunch of things really good, man, but one thing I can do even better than the things I do really good is throw a party. I know how to throw a party. We got this. Show up for it. It'll be fun. But, yeah, gentlemen. And, GLO, thank you for for being back on, man. I I appreciate you. I appreciate what you have to bring to the conversation. It's always a pleasure to talk to you.
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Yeah. And if if you don't have a copy of my book, send me your address. I'll mail you one.
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I'll I'll drop my address in the private chat right now Okay. Perfect. Before I split. Will do. Yeah. We've got
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a lot more to talk about, especially that, that loser identity that a lot of a lot of guys end up finding themselves in. Maybe they're raised by a single mom who wants to keep them in their place. A lot of young guys are struggling in the world today to find out how they can take up space and not have to apologize for it.
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I think I think a lot of identities are, manufactured top down. Right? And a lot of times, people are gonna find themselves between identities. And so right now, we're kind of in a weird latency in between zone. Right? And so, you know, not everyone reads books and figures out their own identity. Not everyone does their own digging. And so, like, the Liberals right now, they're pretty dormant under the Trump administration. Right? So they're in a dormancy period, but what I really believe is gonna happen is they're gonna pump up the war with Iran at some point. And then that loser component, they'll have an opportunity to go be a hero.
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And that's, that's a point you might wanna stop and focus on a little bit. This idea of conscription or needing some discipline and sending some rowdy kids to boot camp. Remember in the nineties where they'd have this talk shows where the the kids wouldn't listen to their parents, and the parents would send them in a boot camp, and they'd have to go through military training? Well, you know, maybe we're in a Weimar period. Right? And there's a a Weimar Germany period, and then
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you you saw those ads. I don't know if you saw them by the German government, was asking their young white males, would you defend Germany? And so they people are hungry for an identity, but you have to be careful that who's gonna be feeding you your identity. Right? And I think, kind of to go back to my previous point, people like us need to start creating and feeding people identities, alternative identities, that let's say, those people with less agency than us can identify. We need to start becoming thought leaders. And the the stronger thought leaders we act as, the less men are gonna be pulled into globalist, you know, war with Iran or World War three or world, you know, war with China.
There's this book, behind me. It's called, Imperium by, Francis Parker Yockey. It's, like, probably one of the best alt right books. There there was a a Hollywood, like, Netflix, film called Imperium with, the Harry Potter actor. And, basically, it's some guy who met with a a older white nationalist and who radicalized him with this book, Imperium. So I was like, yeah. Fuck yeah. I'm like, I'm gonna go buy Imperium. It's it's somewhere up there. And so, anyways, the point that Yaki makes is that, World War one and World War two are are European civil wars. Mhmm. And a lot of the the white population was obliterated in that time and a lot of what do we what do we have?
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Quarantine is when you restrict the movements of sick people. Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.
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Somebody in the chat was asking about my shirt. I wasn't trying to interrupt you. Oh, okay. Yeah. So
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so, you know, us, the middle class, like a lot of our brothers, could get obliterated, in a Israel Versus Iran War or a US versus China war. And I I I hope that I could redirect those men away from those meat grinders, because Europe lost a lot of its cultural heritage.
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And it's hard though. Some some of these, you know, rust belt towns, Detroit, you know, lost their their industry. America not having industry. A lot of young men not able to find entry level positions, and then military recruiters come knocking and have money and bonuses and, you know, bribes to to get men out to basic training. Do you have a hard firm stance to say no, man? No no no way, Jose? Or is there some value for for young men who don't have other choices, could take the opportunity, could use it to their advantage, get in, get out?
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I, you know, this whole, who's the the current secretary of defense? This Pete Hedgeworth or something? He's like he has, like, amazing hair. He's like a very handsome man, and, he has a big knight's cross tattoo. Oh, yeah. And and you can see that he's being used to bait those men to their death.
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Well, women too are encouraged to join in You know? For Dunity.
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So, I mean, look, I understand the Cold War. You know? Maybe if you're fighting against communism or fighting for communism, like, I get it. But When the only thing on your resume is Call of Duty games,
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first person shooters.
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I think you can be a welder. I think you can get into some kind of trade. I think there's a lot of good entry points there. I think as a kid, you could fix air conditionings or something. Right? You could pave roads. You could work with your hands. Right? So I because it's we're we're really getting into those end times. Right? I don't know if you know, but the the Roman Catholic church, like, they have their last portrait of their last pope up. You know, the pope after this pope is supposed to be the last pope. So they're they're gonna start really, I mean, you know, with the pandemic, like, how they really started ramping that up. That's why with my book, like, I I was really trying to push the manosphere crowd into understanding symbolism
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by packing it on every single page. Why didn't you jump in on this election cycle? Can I ask? In in in the
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In the last time, I had really good access. Right? Because through the red pill, I I had privileged access into Donald Trump. Then they deleted all my accounts, and then I I just had no entry point. And and I think, you know, I'm really paranoid and suspicious of things, but rightly slow, I think they had a lot of these fake influencers. Right? So if you look at Donald Trump junior, whose, like, former wife is basically a prostitute, They had a lot of these fake right influencers just taking up those slots. Like, I I'm happy Trump won, but there's there's just a lot of suspicious stuff. Or, like, Elon Musk, if you look at a lot of the symbolism, like, he wears, like, antichrist stuff. Right?
And it it's a lot of masonic, like, weird movements, where, like, he has transgender children. Right? So it's it's already too much. Like, you're you're really crossing threshold of, like he he's like he's like at, like, Madonna or Lady Gaga levels of, like, you know, dog whistling. Right? So or this Pete Pete Hedgeworth,
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was The tech Seth. Hedge Seth. I'm not He wants to signals on the signal group chats talking about wars.
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And so the those Houthis are an Iran proxy. So what they could do is they could start bombing those sand people, and then from there, work their way up into Iran. Right? Because I'm sure, the Iranian coup's force is probably running them behind the scenes. Right? So you start bombing Houthis, and then you're gonna bomb Iranian nationals, and then you're gonna start ramping up. Gonna and then and then you'll have your greater Israel, and then you'll get the rate of the integrate. You just it's just gonna ramp up like that. Right? So I I would say learn a trade and kinda start moving up out of that because you could be pulled into a complete meat grinder of biblical proportions.
So, yeah, that that you know that Albert Pike three world wars? Mhmm. That's that's really my premise here on this one. Oh, look. We both have huge mugs. Look at this.
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So I like the old school steins because it keeps the flies and stuff out.
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I'm clumsy, so I'll knock every cup over, and the stein just sits there. You know? Yeah. Very deliberate. So yeah. So I I I I would say it's just really important to just try and pivot away and be really, really mindful of what is the propaganda.
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What's the propaganda of Pete Heggseth in a group chat? They say signal is supposed to be, you know, more secure, but now they're telling us that it's really not that secure after all in human error. The propaganda seems to be, you know, shut your mouth and and don't, don't use digital communications to organize anything. There
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was a guy from the Red Pill, and he was a former marine. And then from there, he worked for, like, an NSA type deal. And now he's hooked up with a lot of Manas for people. And he's like, yeah. Telegram isn't secure. You should use Signal. And then I was like, like, I was like, okay. Like, thanks, buddy.
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That's we're we're talking encrypted chat. PGP, pretty good encryption, that sort of thing. And with Telegram, it's become more of a social network naturally if you're gonna be posting in public chats. That's that's public stuff. A Telegram for a time had direct encrypted chats where it would be like, if I'm messaging you, my phone to your phone, it would only show up in that one spot, and then you'd set it to delete the message and it'd burn out to read type of thing. But due to human error and, just convenience when you get on signal and you log in to signal on your phone and you log in into your computer, you can be logged in to multiple locations and it shows a message on all these different screens. Apparently, one of the guys invited a journalist because he had a journalist in his address book on his phone, and I was trying to invite somebody. Happen. So somehow, this journalist gets pulled in and just doesn't say anything and just in the group chat, forgets about it, goes back, checking old messages. Oh, there's new messages in this group chat I got invited to, and they started screenshotting it and and gathering information because they're a journalist. That's what they do. They gather information, that sort of thing.
Is there is there a reason to be paranoid in 2025? I mean, you're a red pill, celebrity legend. Do you still feel that level of, like, I need to zip my lip a little bit?
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I mean, I I I never zipped my lip at all. And then, during the twenty sixteen election, Democrats were calling me, threatening to kill me. And, like, I lived in a roach infested apartment, so I'd I'd no reason to fear, like, life or death. I was like, fucking kill me. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I I I I had nothing. Like, I I was living, like, chicken breast to chicken breast. Right? So I I didn't give a fuck. But then I think now they're shifting, and it's it's hard to say where they're shifting. I'm really you really don't see that hard censorship, so maybe they're building a database.
Like, Twitter's really suspicious because Elon Musk has huge Air Force contracts. So if if he works with the Air Force to launch satellites, he I'm sure he works with their intelligence arm. Right? Mhmm. So Twitter's really suspicious about what they, upregulate. And then it's I think there's a certain cooling right now where you can kinda do whatever you want. But once we start getting closer to the war, you're just gonna start seeing more, censorship again. Like, what's what's the next big sigh up? Right? Like, you know, you can shit on Ukraine if you want. You can shit on the pandemic right now. All the ethnic stuff you could do, all the feminism stuff. The everything's flying right now because there's really nothing to disrupt.
But, so I I think it's it's kind of a a fake opening, and then they're gonna close everything back up. That's if if I had to predict and usually my predictions are pretty pretty good historically.
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So pattern recognition, the the freezing of files and the thawing of files and opening up the JFK files to remind us that presidents can be assassinated.
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I I guess. I mean, you know, he didn't let Israel build their, nuclear weapons. Right? So but I think we already knew that. I think most people already knew it. It it was I think most people knew. But
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the other topic, I'd written down was old men who who grow soft, kind of these punk rock bands who then sell out at a later age. The idea that, the boomers are to blame for everything. The boomers don't care about Zoomers. I mean Do we respect our elders? Are there old Which elders? Wise men that that, retain their respect and don't sell out and don't sell out their their children and grandchildren?
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I think this whole real estate thing is a big problem. Mhmm. But I think I think land? I it it it depends on what you mean by selling out. Right? Like, so at some point, everyone has a price. Right? And so I think like, let's say Alex Jones. Right? Like Think for yourself. I think with Alex Jones, like, I think he got nine eleven really well. He did a lot of stuff well. Right? Right. But at some point, I think he sold out. Right? And
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Or was replaced. You can't tell me that the Alex Jones today that you're seeing remotely looks like Alex Jones. I mean, I understand people age. I'm I'm fucking near 50. I I I also have aged. You don't even resemble that dude.
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I think a lot of people it's it's kinda like being, like, an athlete, right, or being a boxer. Like, you you have your career run. You do what you you can. And then at some point, they're you're gonna get an offer. You're gonna get shot. But either way, you sell out or they kill you. You you've done as much as you could. Right? So I'm trying to think of, like, the big the big influencers. Like, because some people were always to sell out or, like, okay. Like, Jordan Peterson wasn't always sell out. Right? Like In the right hand space?
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Yeah. Jordan Peterson, probably, Ben Shapiro.
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Ben Ben Shapiro was always an asset. You know? Yeah. Yeah. So so there's no Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan for sure. Right? So, I mean, I I would say with someone like with Joe Rogan, like, he had good comedy. He did a lot of stuff. He interviewed some cool people. And then at some point, he sold out. And, you know, when you sell out, there's there's your friends, there's your family, and you could do a lot of good with that sell out money. Right? So you can't it's like a Navy Seal. Like, you can only be in the fight for so long until your knees are done and your elbows are done, and your your ears are ringing. Right? Like, you're mortal, so there's only so much fight you have in you.
You know, I'm thinking of a certain manosphere figure that might promote my books. I'm not gonna say say his name. He's very big. But at at some point, you know, you you you did what you could on those issues, and, at some point, you gotta call it quits. Right? So so that, or or you could be like Yockey, who, took cyanide pills in FBI custody. So I guess that's and those are your two options. Either either you're reporting on the wrong stuff and you don't matter.
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Well, that that is a that is a bit of a gloomy topic, but it's it's worth, discussing, the male suicide rates. Do we see that number getting better? Hashtag mental health awareness, suicide hotlines, these type of things. Are are men who need who need a little bit of a relief in a conversation to kinda walk them off? Are they getting are they getting that help?
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I think if you're getting that veteran's disability money, maybe move to Mexico, get yourself a senorita, and and just just call it quits over there, you know, or over here. So
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What is superior to Mexico, to The United States outside of, the cost of living?
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There are more social culture
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so that we as European Yeah. Yeah. We're we're we're white. They're not they're not. They're happy. Ever what that was a lesson I learned by the time I was say by the time I was 17. I was working with my, my ex father in law's, construction crew, and there's six white guys. And we're literally in a almost in a fist fight because there's five spots in a Winnebago, in the Winnebago we were in. And that meant two of us had to share a bed. That was fist fighting. We got up the next morning, and there was, like, 10 Mexicans rolled out the back of a fucking, out of a pickup with a camper shell on it. You're like, the fuck?
How many of you were in there?
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So, you know, my Mexican girlfriends would pull me into, let's say, salsa dancing or bachata and stuff like that. Right? And, like, I think as white men, we get into our moods. Right? And and they can pull you out into a social environment, and they can contact shift you, and they can integrate you into a different society. Right? So here in The US, you're seen as a radical or as an outsider. Right? You're treated like that. In Mexico, you're just a white guy. And you're just a white guy, and so no one's attacking you for being far right or anything like that. You're just a white guy, and you can just be a white guy drinking beer. You can just be a white guy doing bachata. You could just it's kind of like a soft reset where you don't have to give up your identity, but now you're just a white guy in Mexico. Right?
So it's kind of like a a gringo bailout that you could do, where you're you're social enough, but you don't give up any of your online identity that you you gained. Right? So I think that's the big advantage. Here, like, there's a a beautiful ocean. You can go fishing here. But I think it's, you know, being pulled into Latina things and fishing and nature, it could pull you out of your your house and, you know, a lot of European writing, like, let's say, once again, Yockey or my book, right, is is very negative. It's I I think I speak the truth, but it's very negative, and that stress is bad for you. And sometimes you need a happy Latina to just pull you out of it, before you get into your self imposed spiral.
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Do you get a lot of sunshine in Mexico year round?
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So, I mean, tacos and beer can fix a lot of things. Right? So Is Yankee a person? Francis Parker Yawkey.
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Author of Imperium?
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Author of Imperium. Looking for the book. Can't find oh, here it is. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I I apologize for missing a bunch of the conversation.
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Out in the mountains here, I live deep out in the mountains, and fuckheads from the city get dogs, and then they don't fucking then they don't take care of them, and then they just dump them off out in the mountain and think that these dogs are I don't know what the fuck they think that is gonna happen, but these dogs end up going feral. And they're starving, and they just killed one of my alpacas, so I had to go deal with that. So I apologize for that. And and so I I missed a lot, and I apologize
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for for making you go back over things and and Oh, it's fine. Like that. So, anyway, so okay. You're gonna like this book right here, Imperium. Like, you can tell by the cover that you're gonna like this book. Right? Francis Parker Yockey, it's it's a combination of Spangler and Evola, and white nationalism. Let's let's just be honest with ourselves. And, he he is oh, let's see if I can fit it back in here or not. He he, ironically, post World War two, takes a pro Soviet position as a white nationalist because he says that the Soviet Union is a better defender of European identity than NATO,
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which is completely insane at the time. And Yeah. At the time, it is, especially after the the the the Bolshevik revolution. I mean, that's really weird to say.
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Right. But
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we're we're tiptoeing into that whole, Orthodox, the Russian Orthodox Church, and that sort of identity that we're seeing white American men being tempted to dabble in?
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Well, I think the the Warsaw regime the Warsaw Pact regime really froze the culture in the nineteen fifties, and there was a freezing. Whereas if you look at the American occupied governments, they they progressed. But so sorry. What what was the statement?
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Well, you're talking about this post Soviet Union stance from, the author of Imperium, Shakti, and I'm asking you about your experience with young men post twenty twenty who are dabbling in Orthodox Christianity.
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It's a larp. Like, they it's a larp. And I I think it's good for people to explore religion. I think that's positive, but a lot of the right likes, dressing up. And, if they find their religion
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structure, the discipline of it, it appeals to people who have been free range children allowed on federal access to the Internet from the earliest age. And now they're they're seeking,
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community to have I think I think what's good with Wait, man. At the earliest stage, most people thought the Internet was just kitten videos. Like, that's literally what people talked about posting on the Internet.
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I think what's good with Orthodox is, you know, who are the big bearers of the Orthodox faith, like Armenians, Russians, Eastern Europeans.
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Oh, my point is with this this identity, I'm I'm struggling to understand how a white guy in the Middle America is now drawn towards more of a Soviet Union state religion orthodox thing. And then it's like, well, the problem seems to be a misplaced identity, and the white American guy, the the gringo guy, a white guy who is starting a podcast, the bro culture, the the white men in America are so confined into a box so that they don't have any culture. They're just white. They're just white, bro. They don't have any culture. And we say, well, there you know, there's there's a German, there's Swedes, you know, there there's always type of people that are white, but they're there's so much more to that. And so them to reject their the the the religion of their fathers and forefathers and grandfathers who who built America and built the church and built the communities. And now they're saying, well, the Protestant church is garbage. I'm throwing that out, but I'm seeking this sort of foreign exotic religion.
I
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I think okay.
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So We're we're trying to start a beef with them. We're trying to get some some time there. Good fights with the ortho bros. Okay. I Well, we're attempting to. Mostly, they're a bunch of chicken shits. They really like to argue against girls and incels and stuff. And and and, like, dudes that are super beta, but they don't themselves, like, they don't wanna fight with anybody that can fight. It would They they seem to be taking up a large,
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proportion of the Okay. So called manosphere. So young men online is that they they maybe they see Jordan Peterson, they wash the penis, and they get into a tape guy, and then, like, glass garbage. The ocean docks?
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No. Jordan Peterson isn't orthodox. Is he like a Protestant? He's Protestant. He's Protestant for sure.
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So I would tell me somehow, western Christian identity thing, but I don't know. He talks about Moses a little bit, old testament stuff,
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logos and and stuff. Well, that's yeah. He's definitely got the whole Jew agenda going on. Not not anything against you, though. Judeo Christian. That's part of why he's so old testament with it. Yep.
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Like, he's definitely pushing that agenda. Okay. So okay. So there's a couple things. So with with with the Orthodox people, right, With the Orthodox people, I think they're looking for European identity, and they're gonna just get it where they can get it. Right? Like, they're just so starved. Like, when you're just so hungry, you're just gonna you're just gonna get it where you can get it. So that's the vacuum that they get sucked up in. There's a vacuum. And if that vacuum is filled with Constantinople, Byzantium
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It's like Roman Empire stuff.
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It's East Roman Empire stuff. Right? So so you they get they get it where they can get it. Right? And I I don't think they're theologically equipped for any kind of debate. Like, if you're like, let's say, I come to Mexico and I'm starving, I'm just gonna eat tacos because that's what's just there. Okay. Right? Yeah. So I I don't think you'll you're ever gonna get into debate with them because he's in a vacuum, and he needs to fill that vacuum. And a lot of that Protestant church has been commercialized. And, that
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It's kind of this built in identity that welcomes new converts. So if you're, ortho curious, there's a Discord server you can join. You can you can join some Zoom meetings and things, and you can hang out with other men online and, yeah, have discipleship groups and bible studies under the orthodox
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umbrella. So I you know, that's fine for them. With regards to Jordan Peterson. Right? Mhmm. So he's under the Ben Shapiro umbrella. And so Ben Shapiro, in my eyes, is a a state sponsored actor, and that's where the money comes in. Right? And so he has to pay he has to show them that, hey. I'm going to respect your, let's say, agenda. Right? But what's strange about Jordan Peterson is he put like, on one hand, he's underneath, Ben Shapiro.
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Right? Yep. And he's he peacocking with that, suit. He's got the two faced Was that in the Batman suit?
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Right. But on the other hand, he pushes Solzhenitsyn, who is, you know, rightly or wrongly is anti Jewish. Right? So it's it's strange. You know? I
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Okay. You said since since you said that, I I will say that it's quite obvious in a lot of the bit shoot conspiracy video theory realm of things where people start waking up. They take the red pill. They wanna know what the truth is, and then they get funneled into this. Look at those noses. Look at those tiny hats. And then these men can become obsessed obsessed with being against The hats. This
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group of people that are to blame for all of their problems and all of that. So okay. So to comment on that. Right? The the people who are really in charge are, the black nobility, which is the Catholic church has far more money than organized Judaism by far. Right? And the reason why Christianity was pushed on pagans was so that they could be, conquered and brought into the fold. Originally, Rome wanted to make a deal with the Jews and use the Jewish religion to conquer the pagans, but the Jews said, build this temple, and Rome said, no. Go fuck yourself. And so then they took an offshoot of Judaism Christianity and used it to try and bring these violent northern tribes that Balderson is a descendant of into the fold like that. Right?
So, We're angry. Right. So so they needed they needed that. Right? Now, so that's one line. Concurrently, there was a split within Judaism in in 1666 between mainline Judaism and satanic Sabatine Judaism, which which is the precursor of Illuminism. Right? So when when you start when you start talking about, like like, the blood libel and all of that stuff, yes, that was happening, but it was happening underneath Sabatianism. Because if you dissect, the Old Testament, you really look into the Old Testament, you can find a lot of those Babylonian practices, and you can reconstruct the religion.
So there's there's Moses, and he goes up against a, a sorcerer called, Balam who, gains his, powers by getting sodomized by a donkey. That's the worst way to gain powers. That's that's Nobody wants to do that one. He he did that one, and he got a lot of powers off of that. Right? So you could you could read the the Old Testament in a way. You could read it in its Aramaic form, and through that, reconstruct the the rituals.
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So I I gotta ask. So did Moses get his power from biting off the tips of little babies' penises and then sucking them? Maybe.
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Maybe.
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You know?
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Like, I mean, I I both sides were doing some pretty fucked up stuff. I I think the donkey thing, that one's really horror that's horrifying. Yeah. So so there's there's the donkey thing on one side. Right?
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But, you know, with Moses is really brutal. He's a brutal person because, everyone who constructed the golden calf, he instructed them to be, killed. Right? So Moses comes from he was raised as Egyptian nobility, and he has the brutality of, their their upper class. Right? He's he's a really you know, I don't wanna categorize anyone by modern standards. But so so regardless, so underneath Sabbatean Sabbatean Judaism or Sabbatean post Judaism, using the Old Testament, you can reconstruct, like, Baal worship, and you can reconstruct those rituals, and you can then go do them.
And so the big heresy of Judaism is Sabatianism, which Jews don't wanna talk about. And then that later merged with the Catholic church or parts of the Catholic church. And so let's if you go into the super Orthodox Jews, a lot of them won't acknowledge the state of Israel, and they won't acknowledge, Zionism. They'll say Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. Why? Because they know that Zionism
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One's a religion and one's a nation.
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Right. But that that nation is built off of Sabbatine Judaism, and it's built off of Freemasonry. So there's a fight. So a lot of let's say, if you look at very orthodox Jews, a lot of them are secretly anti Zionist, which,
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So are we talking about a dialectic here? We have one group that's pro something and then another against that. Another group that pushes against that is that functioning to create this new synthesis of ideas. That's a for group and against group, and then they push and pull, and they move history this way?
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The well, I I was gonna say that this state of Israel is then going to be used to trigger Albert Pike's third World War. And and when you read Albert Pike, he's very clear that they are going to, like, snuke each other and obliterate everyone. So, I mean, this is my opinion. I'm I'm setting text. Maybe I'm not the best text cider, but I think that's that's the game. These are ideas we're familiar with. And then, you know, if you look they like sacrifices. Right? So if they could sacrifice the entire state of Israel in a giant nuclear explosion,
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then they could be like, okay. They like to build towers, and they like to tear down towers. Building and constructing.
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So so then on the other side of that, they're gonna say, okay. We'll see how bad religion is. It's time for our new world order, Luciferian religion. And then they're gonna come back, and then they're gonna go implement their stuff. So, you know, like, let's say the the protocols of the elders of Zion, those are used by Zionist Jews to attack Orthodox Jews. So so stuff like that is used by secular Jews to attack religious Jews. So there's there's Jew fights.
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There's infighting amongst, Christian denominations too. But it's
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Israel will,
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There's there's Christian Zionism as well. There's There's Christian Zionism. Christian Zionism.
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That one's pretty heavy. In fact, given what you're saying, that might be heavier than the Jewish Zionism.
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It's I mean, there's Jews for Jesus. So it's just this very confusing sort of, well I mean come from, but they're confusing. They're fighting messianic Jews. Is that what they call those ones?
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I who? Did you ever discuss the Jewish position on Jesus?
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I I know I'm, like, really step stepping on all the landmines. You know, you might be surprised by this, but I don't we don't have a a plethora of Jews coming up to talk to us.
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Okay. Well well, so so Jesus and I'm gonna I'm gonna try to be respectful. I think I'm gonna be respectful. Dude, I'm not a Christian, bro. Okay. Well, I got some point I had some point
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Marcus is in the flying spaghetti monster
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No. The the the the guy with the pillars.
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Oh, right. Right. Right. And so The hair guy? The hair guy? The
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hair model. And and so he's part of an aesthetic aesthetic sect where he can't cut his hair and he's not supposed to have sex. And, back in the day, there were three sects of Jews. There's Pharisees Oh, so he was just cock strong? Wait. It it's I get it. It's it's like it's like a mystical Judaism. Right? So so there's the Pharisees. There's the Sadducees, which are Hellenized Jews. Mhmm. They're kinda moderate Jews who who adopted a lot of Greek customs. And then there's, the the Nazarites. So that's that's step one. Step two is, you know, some people are gonna push the virgin birth.
Okay? That's their religious belief. But the Jewish belief is that Jesus' father was not Jewish. And so he he wasn't Jewish. And because he wasn't
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Jewish But what if his mother's a Jew, he's Jewish. Right, though? Isn't that through the matriarchal bloodline?
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If his mother's a Jew, he's Jewish. But because he's not full Jewish, he doesn't have the full rights of a full Jew.
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Interesting. Back back then. Interesting.
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Back then. Right? Because you have to understand that when you go look at the Old Testament, there are there are people who are half Egyptian and half Jewish. So they have an Egyptian father and a Jewish mother. And right in the beginning of Exodus, there's a child who's half Egyptian who rebels, and and he's put to death. So so back back then, they they distinguished in the same way, like, you know, how, Hitler had his distinctions of, like, full Jew, you know, that whole thing? Yeah. Back then, they had that.
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I mean, you know, all cultures were racist. I mean, it makes sense. I mean, it makes sense. I that that,
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So so he lived this tragic life because he's half Jewish. He doesn't have have his full rights. He wanted to marry. I'm just kind of repeating what what I was told. And and he's kind of held at this lower level than everybody else. And it's it's really frustrating, because he knew a lot. So so that's that's step one. And then step two is there's some kind of Kabbalistic magic that he knew He was high up spiritually, so he had some kind of access. Right? And so there's
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Yeah. There's the whole there's the whole route where he's actually, a Gnostic, and then, he's actually kinda involved in the same cult that, John the Baptist was, and that cult actually still prefers John the Baptist because Jesus went out and gave out secrets he wasn't supposed to give out when he figured out that they were probably gonna, they were probably gonna delete him. He started just spewing out these secrets. And so the the cult that, followed that, they have switched over to John the Baptist is their head guy instead of Jesus, but they're supposedly teaching the same things. So there's
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powerful magical rituals. There's a book you can get it. It's called, like, Seferha Razim. It's a book book of secrets, and you can just get it. And so in that book, there are rituals that are similar to what Jesus performed, as stated in the the New Testament. Right? So so there there's a disagreement book again? Sephar Harazim. Mhmm. Sephar means book. Harazim. And and there's there's a there's a translation of it. And so, you're gonna be finding, Babylonian or Judeo Babylonian magic of, like, how to summon a wind spirit, how to, imbue life into a clay figure, stuff like that.
But so so Homunculus. Homunculus. Yeah. So you're doing that. There's lions' hearts. There's there's chickens. There's just it's either Babylonian or Judeo Babylonian magic from what I understand. So so he he's certainly doing something, and and there is a disagreement between him and his rabbinic teachers because he's he's doing too much. And, you know, as someone who's, I guess, biracial.
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So so so he's not having a problem in the occult circles. He's having a problem in the religion circles, the the official religion part. I don't think there's
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I don't think there is a a distinction.
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There's not a distinction at the time? They're just openly mixed? It's not two separate groups?
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The the I think the high priests know the occult stuff. They just do it secretly, But it's the same people. Sure. And and the purpose of the Jewish temple is that when you do your high level meditation to bring down the spirit of God, you need to purify yourself. So by with the red heifer, you can purify yourself to a high level so that you can rise up spiritually, a lot higher
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without doing the same significance of the red heifer. Why would I don't I don't know. There's
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in Hebrew letters, like, red heifer is gonna jamatria into something. It's gonna, you know, it's gonna look like that. So so he's doing rituals. He's doing stuff. He's doing it out in the open. And then on top so there's there's kind of like a esoteric antagonism. There is a political antagonism. There is a racial cultural antagonism that's going on. And then on top of that, there's the Roman state, which is suspicious of Jews because every once in a while, Jews flip out and start stabbing people and go completely wild. Right? Like, the Maccabean revolt, it started because they they told, they told a guy to bow at the temple Of Zeus.
He did. And as soon as he did, another guy ran up and stabbed him. And then and then they had, like, a a big stab off, and then that rolled off into a big civil war. Right? So the the Romans were like, okay. Like That will happen. That will happen. You it's like a prison prison stabbing. It's like a it's just that whole thing. So so there's political pressure. There is, theological issues, and and they and that causes a lot of a lot of problems. And so so that and then so so that's the first issue. Right? The next issue is because he's doing high level magic and he doesn't have access to the temple in terms of purification, he's gonna be in touch with unclean forces.
So if if you if you get in good with the Orthodox, they'll say, look, like, he was a sorcerer. And if you're a sorcerer, at some point, you will die and you will pay the price. So so it they they call him a sorcerer. And so so that's happening. But beyond that, you have to understand that Romans hate Jews, because Jews keep revolting and killing Romans and this whole thing. Right?
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So A revolutionary spirit they have. It's a revolutionary spirit.
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So they use Christianity to then attack these rebellious Jews. Right? So, you know, there's if you look at Christian literature, there's a lot of stuff against Jews. If you look at Jewish literature, there's a lot of stuff against Christians. So both sides write negative things about each other. Right? But and that's that's always how it is. Right? I'm not trying to necessarily defend anyone. I just wanna try and give a neutral
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thing. We were talking about this because so many people today
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don't have an identity outside of a religious identity. Them on the log pile. I just don't want them on the log pile. Sorry, guys.
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Yeah. So
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trying to get animals to safety.
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Yeah. So so I would say that there is the Christian religion.
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Mhmm.
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But underneath that Christian religion is the Roman religion, And they know their rituals really, really well, and they're doing high level magic. And when you look at their symbolism, you could see that they they know a lot more than they're telling you. Right? And in some Catholic churches, you know, they're gonna say, oh, that's Saint Paul. That Saint Paul looks a lot like Zeus. You know? Or, you know, they're gonna be like, oh, that's the Virgin Mary, but it it kinda looks like Ishtar. You know? And now we're now you're in Venus worship. And if you know your magic, you can call upon Venus and do all sorts of stuff there. Right?
So there's really a lot of stuff happening, and they they know a lot. And the the Romans confiscated a lot of high level Jewish magical texts. So and the Vatican has those texts. So there's a lot of games being played, and, I I I guess that's my point. There's a lot of games being played. Don't be pulled into any narratives. No side is a % good. Do a lot of reading. And, This is this is an answer to the question of
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should young men join the military? Should young men join the specific church, maybe Orthodox or otherwise? Should young men get involved with organizations? Should how do they find their identity? And this vacuum just sucks them right up. It's it's a treacherous path.
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Right? And you have to understand that all a lot of these magical rituals, they need blood because that is the ultimate like, it's the ultimate fuel source. And without properly constructed temples, you could just do some kind of blood sacrifice. You could kill people. You know, you could do what whatever the Illuminati are doing. Right? They could they're doing their cannibalism, and that could really just kinda start up the engine. Right? And so it's you know, there's a lot of missing children. There's a lot of stuff like that. Right? There's a lot of stuff happening behind the scenes. You know, there's there's the Moloch effigy.
There's the pentagram that's built into the Washington DC. So there's really, really a lot of stuff. And I know there's stupid astrology. I know there's stupid alchemy. With my book, I'm I'm doing my best to build a, understanding of religious symbolism and and understand, like, what is what is Mars? What does Mars look like? You know? What what is what are these Saturn conjunctions?
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So people can problem is part of the problem is I don't know that there's good information out there. I I just don't. Like myself, I I practice lab alchemy and, like, Mars and Venus. You've been talking about both of these two things. So if I look and and and as an occultist, as above so below is a fairly common rule that we all basically understand. Stop, Scott. And so if I look at the human body, what we have is in the heart of polarity. And one of these sides, it draws in oxygen. It pushes out hydrogen. The other side draws in hydrogen, it pushes out oxygen. And so this this whole system is what's trying to make the moves in your body to move the oxygen back and forth. Now oxygen is is your destructive element.
So when you oxidize something, you're breaking it down. You're going to war. And then on the flip side, hydrogen puts things together. So we have a duality in between these two things. And to and in my in my opinion, they're actually one thing, and it's the two sides of it just like the heart. You wouldn't call half the heart one thing and half the heart another thing. It's your heart, and it works in conjunction with each other. And so you you don't find anything like that in any way, shape, or form in any of the occult books.
And I I don't There's a there's quite a few actually things that I would completely disagree with that are, normally used by a cultist and normally thought. And I honestly, myself, from my perspective, the Theosophical Society in that era was probably the the worst people for the occult. They also had a wing in the Catholic church, which you, keep bringing up. And, they turned and they twisted a cult. And, basically, anything anything that we're getting now is from that era, and it it's it's all real garbage. And I don't know how a person finds the, you know, something else. I would
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say that you should start looking in Aramaic, and you should start looking in Hebrew. And what's good about Hebrew, it's a very limited language. It's, like, 10,000 words. And then you also have Google Translate. Right? And so you could you could start thinking of, like, what are these words? And depending on which vowels we put under the Aramaic consonants, what are the different meanings that are associated there, and from there, what are the true matrias there. Right? And you could start digging. Right? And right now, if you go on Libgen and Anna's archives, you could you could see you could see, there's a lot of high level papers written by Harvard, and European universities trying to decode these texts.
So we live in a golden age, either between, Chat GPT, translation, and and getting these PDFs. And you could really, really get the this stuff. Like, I don't know if you know the Zohar. The Zohar is, like, one of the most serious Jewish mystical texts, and Harvard has a, a full set of it with a very good translation. So there's that. There's Isaac Gloria where, once again, you could a lot of the stuff is coming in, and, you could see very high level rituals. The Seferha Rasim, I think I sent it to Alan Marcus. There's very high level stuff going on there too. Right?
And I I'm not proficient in it, but I see that now that we're getting into the these end of days. It's just all being revealed. So now so I I would recommend that. You know? That way, you can get around the, theosophical, all of that stuff. Are there games being played by the Jews? A %. A %. But if you can just brute force it with enough text, you're gonna start getting in the right room, in the right. There is, a book on cobblism, by forgot his name. There's Moshe Idel. There is if you just look at there's kabbalism. They have their magic squares too.
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Right? I think you guys know about that. And, you can you can start seeing What I'm waiting on you to talk about is the tree is their tree of life. And I wanna know if you went down the path of the Doth tree and all that because their tree of life is is very obviously truncated and and not meant they've cut the root off it. So I'm curious what all down that path you've went.
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I have shitty Hebrew, and they're not telling me anything. No one is telling me anything. And when you speak to Orthodox Jews as a Jew, they're not telling you anything. And you can tell if you're on the right path. Like, if you're like, hey. I'm gonna go read Sefer Hazim. What do you think? And you'll you'll feel them get tense, and you're like, okay. Alright. Alright, guys. So it's I'm learning a lot more off of, like, LibGen and these academic resources because in person, no one's giving me anything. And I don't know if they know do we come? They they have their own internal stuff where they they have their own internal principles that they're operating off of, and they're not going to tell you anything. If you look at Jewish prayers, it's very clear that they're coded deeply.
Like, you see 70 and you're like, oh, 70 is there's the 70 original nations, each ruled by their own angel. Oh, that's why you're saying 70 spices. Gotcha. You know? So
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So they had sort of euphemisms and emoji codes to convey knowledge all going back to It's beginning of time, your zero stuff. It's all, like
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it it's hard to say, like, who knows? Like, Isaac Gloria might know. I think you're gonna get somewhere with the Sohar. With the Sohar, I learned about how how is sorcery actually practiced. Like like, what are the components of it? And that's like, what did the Egyptians do? What what was the Egyptian magic? What was the Babylonian magic? Right? And you start getting those answers. But there's a book called Meditations on Kabbalah. And as you recite your Jewish prayers, you have to there's a certain breathing pattern that you're supposed to hit, like a rhythmic breathing pattern that they have in yoga. Right?
And if you do that while resetting the prayer, while following certain number codes, there's kind of a left and right brain resonance that you're gonna get into. And then from there, you'll feel yourself in a deep meditation. And so so that so so it's it's to sort of answer your question, there's, you know, like, look up this meditations on Kabbalah, and and with your pagan knowledge, you can start to decode what they're doing and why. And I don't I don't know, but, like, you can kinda feel that there's there's games being played. Right? And it's it's also interesting, like, how high up would you have to go up the chain before someone knew, let alone they told you?
Right? So, like, does the president of Israel know? You know what I mean? Like, do do they know? Like, it's, you know, for me, it's like a it's like a big conspiracy. Right? I I guess is the tree of life truncated? Yes. Because, there's Babylonian texts that you can read, and there's, like, the there's the seven kings of Edom, where there's which are the seven Babylonian kings. And sometimes they're good, sometimes they're evil. And you can see how Babylonian worship influences Jewish worship, and it's an open question of, is the Babylonian one the unaculted one? Like, it there's just a lot of questions, and there's a lot of book digging.
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And I do less book digging, and I'm most of my stuff comes it's it's literally my own, and I get a lot of my information directly from the laboratory. That all these things, you can you can take and you can, these are culted ideas. They all match things in the laboratory. And you're just taking an as above so below approach to it and understanding that the same mechanisms are gonna continue to happen. I you know, but That that a lock that, a lock that's got one tumbler and one little peg on it, even though that you can have a big fancy lock that's got all kinds of craziness to it, it's still basically just a fucking lock. Right. And it it still works like a lock. That that that's what you that's the as above so below, understanding that things may get slightly more complicated.
Brand new Corvette is a lot more complicated than a model t, but at the end of the day, you got an engine, you got a transmission, you got you got power distribution. You're you're in the front and in the back. Well, probably just in the back on those model T's your rear diff to actually put power to the road. All those same basic elements are still there, still function the same way, still do the same basic things. It's just a lot fancier.
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Yeah. For for me, it's I'm really interested in how religions function and what what is the deep esoteric reason for the rituals? Like, what's the underlying logic of the gaps of mass?
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So my my my that's my contention. Right. How do you understand the mechanisms behind the ritual without actually taking it back to reality, taking it back to the lab, understanding that you do certain things because of certain things. And that's that's where you get the more grandiose rituals where you're dealing with higher beings, but you're still doing the same mechanisms. And if you don't in my for me, once a cult has separated themselves from the laboratory Yeah. And alchemy out of their out of their repertoire, Well, now you can make now you can do anything.
Now now you can make anything anything. And it whereas opposed to the things that I say have to actually match what I can produce.
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I don't know. You know? I don't know. I I I see the prayers, and I see that there's stuff in them. Mhmm.
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And and
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through my reading, I can see that there's deep games happening. And if you look at, let's say, Orthodox Christianity, and they have bones in their church that lines up with necromancy, and they could be channeling spirits with those bones,
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and they could be getting into all all kinds of stuff. Do the Orthos do that? I know the Catholics do. The Orthos also do the, reliquary? I mean, they call it reliquary.
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And if you look at the Eastern European pagans, they have extensive necromancy in their shamanism, and that's a completely valid form of magic is just to channel the spirits that are attached to that body. And if you start reading necromancy books you know, I would say, like, okay. Read a whole bunch of necromancy books. Some of it's right. Some of it's wrong. Who knows? And then go see what is their interactions with those bodies. And it's gonna line up pretty close.
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The faces of death DVDs were on sale at Walmart on the shelves. So, you know, we're we're back to this point of what we think we're making on sale. Made it to DVD?
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They were selling it on the shelves. That on BHS. What the hell? Yep. Yep. There's a whole new generation. So we're talking about Why would you traumatize more kids with that?
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Well, this is where we are in our culture where we're talking about, you know, public executions again. We're back to war and death rituals and,
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the faces of death thing, you know, snuff tapes, real death. We're we're we're at this end of history. You know, if you have ever watched the light leave something's eyes and actually saw its eyes go dead, that's not something you really wanna fucking have nothing to do with. Like, that's a you know, that that's rough stuff. And then on a video game, it's there's no actual consequences. But when you see the light leave something's eyes and you're the one that caused that, that's that's some rough ass stuff. So when we have, you know, professional wrestling, we have MMA, and we have these cage fights and things, they're not fighting to the death.
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The next logical progression of just extreme sports arrives at the fact that gladiatorial combat like in Rome where you put two men in a ring and one man leaves and the other stays. I mean, is that is that where we're heading as a culture, worldwide civilization? Is it going to get to that point where that's kind of the the true sport is going to be the the blood sport, the death sport?
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I would say that a lot of these rituals just require a lot of energy, psychological, in terms of blood, stuff like that. Right? And like like Balderson said, like, when something leaves an animal or a person, it's a very strong effect, and you can feel it in the room. And so Oh, it's It's probably the strongest thing that you could feel. Yeah. And so you could see how that could be used as a battery to pull in spirits and to do all of your occult work. And and that's universal, so you're gonna see that
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across cultures. Well, it reminds me of an event in Minneapolis. A black guy cashed a bad check and got knelt on and couldn't breathe, and now there's memorials and people were on the streets. I mean, that kind of death magic ritual really motivated people to unite under a cause and become a community against the oppression.
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Are are we seeing more of those types of Right. So so they they always play that stuff. Yes. So so if you were to watch that situation, it would follow some kind of a cult formula. Now Mhmm. I don't know which one, but it it did. And so let's say this man was sacrificed to create a certain psychological effect, and that psychological effect created a certain political effect. Right? Mhmm. So these occult rituals are out there. Right? Now I'm not recommending anyone does them, but if you can start to understand that occult language, you'll start to understand what's happening.
And then I I would also say that at very high levels of occultism, there really isn't religion. It's really hard to say where's the Christianity, where's the Judaism, where's the paganism, because at a deep, deep level, there's just protocols that they're that they're following. Right? And it's you know, religion's kind of like a political party. But once you start seeing the underlying logic, there's a certain kind of format for the for the rituals, which seems universal, or or there's there's similar procedures. Right? So that's that's what's going on.
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Is there an identity, like the better male, the the loser type of guy who's always into the self sacrifice? And we might call it the oppression Olympics. The person in the room who's most depressed gets elevated to the highest stature.
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I think to conduct those rituals, you need a lot of resources. Still energy
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in that narrative?
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I I I'm just gonna say that at the bottom of a religious hierarchy, there are a lot of people who don't know what's going on. Because they don't know what's going on, they can be sucked dry of energy. So at the lower levels of Freemasonry, they're doing rituals that they don't understand. And and through those rituals, they could be drained by people who do know what they're doing, and they could channel that energy into a higher whatever their purpose is. Right? I don't wanna ascribe morality to it. Right? So so there there's people who are gonna be getting duped one way or the another. Right? If you look at Hinduism, which is, actually a very pure form of paganism. Right? You're gonna see ecstatic dance.
And you can see that a lot of people are participating in this without understanding, like, what kind of energies are being channeled. You know, ecstatic dance is actually a very powerful form of magic, and you can rile people up. You know, like, let's say the Hajj with Islam. Right? You riled them up, and they're circling a black tube. Right? And and they're letting out a lot of emotion, and there's a lot of feelings there. Right? And that energy is then channeled. I don't know how. I don't know. But it's very clear that there is a process. So I I think I think the Hajj, there's a very powerful, thing going on, and a lot of people would argue that it's pre Islamic in nature.
And I think it's also very clear that the Vatican is doing stuff. And if you look at the Church of England, there's, like, Druidic stuff that the Queen of England is doing. So it's it it'd be really interesting to to get a get some kind of semblance of what you mean.
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King sausage fingers. Don't call him a queen.
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Oh. King sausage fingers. Well okay. So if you look at the whole Epstein Island situation. Right? Was Epstein even a real man?
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Yeah. With an egg shaped penis. Was he a physical man, or is he more of a figure, like an influencer figure? We recognize his face. Was it was he a construct of an idea to create a narrative following? Was he just a actor? Was he, from central casting? Do you have any insight into that? Because everyone saw I go to the AppSync list and began the biggest news story for the last few years. And I I don't know that I've seen many videos of him just, you know, hanging out, working out, and petting dogs, and kissing babies. And I don't see a whole lot of actual footage of a man to believe that there's a real person here. We see images of him with Glenn Maxwell and other celebrities and things.
Is it part of the op in your opinion?
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So there's a big op. Mhmm. There's a big op. And there is high level rituals taking place there, however they work. Probably some kind of child sacrifice, whatever. That's number one. Next, there is a sexual blackmail. Right? Now what if I I feel like no one really actually reads the Bible, but if you read Exodus and you look at the political system in Egypt, they control people sexually and through sin. And there's a The,
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we talked a little bit earlier about circumcision rituals
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and why does that continue today. And Well, you know, we could talk about Saturn and Saturn eating his, you know Yeah. His own son, and then maybe Judaism is Saturnism, and it looks like that painting you know, that's that. But what what I'm saying is when you look at Exodus, the Egyptians are controlling not just the Jews of that time, but all the other races under their dominion through some kind of sexual perversion, magic, something. Something's happening there. Right? Now that methodology, if you understand the bible deeply, which state of Israel does. Right? Mhmm. You could take that methodology and you could use it in modern day with an Epstein.
Right? So so where does all this where do all these tactics come from? They come from the bible, and the bible disc discusses
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the enemies of So it is there a distinction between these ideas coming from, like, being pulled out of the bible, or did the bible just gather them and then put them on a document?
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I I mean, there's a lot of ways to read that bible. And and once you get into that Aramaic or that Hebrew, you have no idea what you're reading because there's the consonants, and you can put whatever vowels you want. And so if you understand the language very well, what you could do is you could go through and think of all of the vowel combinations and write through write down every sentence and what it would mean with the different vowel combinations. Right? Mhmm. And you would for every sentence, you I don't know how many, but you would get a lot. And some of them are valid and some of them aren't.
But that game for sure is being played, and so the problem with translating the Bible into any other language is you lose out on the vowel game. Right? So there's king, which is Melech. Keep in mind, I'm not good at this. I'm just I'm just floating ideas. There's Melech and there's Moloch. And and how do you know So so there's smell his king, and there's Moloch means sacrifice. So you could say, god is king, or you could say, god is sacrifice. And depending on which which vowels you put there, you get a different sentence. So every everyone you hear, God is king, God is king, God is king. Okay. But what if every single time they said God is king, they make God a sacrifice. And insofar as you sacrifice, now God appears. And when you look through the Bible, whenever there's sacrifices, God just, boop. Right? So, like, Moses gets filled with rage and he, I think, beats an Egyptian to death. Right?
And immediately after that, boom, burning bush.
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Well, there's a poetic language of the bible and bringing it back to pillars of wisdom here, this beautiful book. And then in the back, there's a skit analysis of, Lacan's graphs of desire. You get into some of these charts. You have a sentence here that says Charles and Josephine's fall. And what does the word fall mean? Is it a season of the year? Is it autumn? Is it a time, or is it a descent? And then from there, it's like you break it into this tree where it's further broken down into to the meaning here. And that's why in the bible, there's all these theologians with their exegesis of what the text their interpretations of it. And because of the biblical poetic language through the translations, a lot of people might only understand English, so they read the King James translation of it. And then they write their exegesis off of the King James version of the English bible.
And now people go back and they go back to Aramaic. So there's all of this sort of stuff. But can you talk a little bit about, who Lacan is? And Oh, you want me to pivot to Lacan? The grass.
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Yeah. It's in the it's in the book. Okay. Oh, okay. Do you want me to explain Lacan? Okay. Now we're kinda moving away from religion.
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Well, are we though? I mean, is is psychoanalysis and is that just part of religion too?
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In Freud, there's a lot of religion. But it's an open question of whether or not that religion remains in Lacan. And so who who is Lacan? In in Freud makes a lot of discoveries, but there's a lot of problems in Freud. There's a lot of gaps, and those gaps have to be filled into a fully functioning theory. So how is that done? One is through Hegel who's a Gnostic, so he's a complete wizard. And the other one is through linguistics. And linguistics is really important because a person can lie to you with what they're saying, but not with how they're saying it. Their word choice, their grammar choice. So as a psychoanalyst, you're gonna sit on a couch, and you're gonna listen to their grammar.
And through that grammar, that unconscious is gonna leak like that. And so
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Lacan It's like, giving a confession to a priest sitting in a dark booth and, you know, forgive me father for I've sinned, and then you just tell your favorite father everything you've done bad that week.
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Right. And then he's in a position of power because now he can aggregate all that sin
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and start seeing a big picture. And then tying this together with the sexual blackmail and this idea of shame and guilt and people having secrets, holding secrets over other people.
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So I I guess yeah. And and I think secrets have some kind of you know, with Freemasonry, secrets have a certain kind of power of their own. Right? But, which am I talking about Lacan? What am I tell me what Yeah. We we we we're kind
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of in this area of, you know, men are told to go to therapy and get help, and then there's the gethelp.com where you're talking to an AI. You're typing to an AI, or you have this sort of thing where you're confessing or your problems are to a computer and all your data is gathered. Sucked up. You create a profile of a population in in aggregate. So now that there's the population is, you know, freely putting stuff on Twitter and Facebook, and Facebook's been around since 02/2004. Some people have been on it since then. So they have, like, twenty years of a lifetime of a lifeline of a lifelog of significant events in people's lives, and then they feed them Well done.
A simulation. With the lifelog.
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Lifelog. Logs. Yep. So okay. So there is cognitive cognitive behavioral therapy, which is a liberal therapy. It's a behavioral therapy where they want you to imitate certain behaviors to make you yourself feel better.
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Mhmm.
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There and that's the most popular one. There is a psychoanalytic therapy where they're gonna engage in analyst discourse, and it's it's really annoying, both to do it and to be on the receiving end of it. So as you speak, you're gonna start leaking things. And the goal of the psychoanalyst is to be as annoying as possible and interrupt you and fuck with you until you lose your shit and engage in transference, which is projection, and scream some shit at them. Say, you're just like my father. You don't care. Blah blah blah. The minute he's yelling at you, he's not lying. You can't yell filled with rage and lie.
And then from there, once you leak, then you have to discuss the thing that you leak. And and the the psychoanalyst
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plays or mandated anger management for for men who are forced into this. I don't think men are going to opt into therapy. Oh oh, well, well, there's there's there's cognitive behavioral therapy and there's psychoanalysis. Psychoanalysis
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is gonna happen in Latin America Mhmm. And in Europe and in Latin Europe. So so it's it's gonna be very rare. It's I like psychoanalysis, and I've taught it to business leaders because nobody knows it. And if you're operating off the psychoanalytic platform and you're fucking with your business rival through psychoanalysis, nobody knows what the fuck you're doing, and you'll be able to execute clean. If you do cognitive behavioral therapy, forty eight laws of power, stuff like that, they know your playbook. Right? Right. So, and then negotiations have done business coaching, but I like psychoanalysis because when those CEOs execute on psychoanalysis, they're not gonna be caught because they don't know what to look for.
Okay. So there's so there's that. Right? Then there's also schizo analysis, delusion schizo analysis, where you reduce everything to these drives. So there is, and I'm not as well versed on it. So there is anti production. So you you you start to reduce people to these programming languages, and there's, like, a synthesis. There's different kinds of synthesis, and there's there's different kinds of nondisjunctions. Right? And that you can read people's speech to say, okay. Like, how much are they building and how much are they stalling? Right? And and, beyond that, which structures feed into them? Which structures is he a product of?
Right? So that's I would argue that's also very interesting. So, the
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And this is all just know thyself. What are the tools that men can use to know thyself and not have to feel paranoid that they're going to be, admitting things and that stuff will be used against them later. Well, like,
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it's if you have someone who doesn't give a fuck about you, they can start piecing together your structure, like, as an editor. Mhmm. Because it's very hard to get past your own ego, and you don't have to. You you just need to find someone who's distant enough from you where he'll sense that, sense your your your grammatic structure like that. Right? So but the other thing is if you start looking at your sins, most people have similar stuff. It's when you've I've talked to a lot of people in aggregate. Mhmm.
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It's it's pretty similar. And when we say sin, are we talking about masturbation? Are we talking about Masturbation. Happen. November, December, December, this type of this this guilt of having a a sexual drive as a man. You have a chapter asking question, are you horny enough, basically, is So do you have enough drive
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to push? So so, you know, most men are neurotic, and so they they want the sex without having to deal with the woman. Right? You want you want her as a sexual object, but then if she starts acting too much like a subject, it's too much. Female hysteria is very strange to us men where she can imagine herself as you having sex with her. She can also imagine you having sex with another woman.
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There's a whole bunch of books published under that romanticisty spicy novels. I think Elon Musk's sister has a whole company devoted to romance.
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And so so female sexuality is really interesting. A passion flicks if you're looking for it. Because it's just a lot of cheating. Mhmm. And some of them want to identify as the man having sex with them. They wanna picture themselves as the object of desire. For Freud, it's a very convoluted it's called, like, the butcher's witty wife, where some woman wanted fish. Some woman asked her husband if he had fish, and then she was, like, cucking this woman by not getting her fish. And and it was this whole thing where she was acting as object of desire so that to deny the man the ability to be an agent. It's it's a very delicate thing.
I don't think I'm telling it correctly. If anyone knows psychoanalysis or Freud, they'd fuck me completely fuck me on this one. But
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No. This is just part of the deliberation to find out, you know, where should we be researching further, and where where is the the the greatest harvest of value
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and what Yatsira and Sefer Hara Museum right away. Mhmm. In Sefer Yatsira, you're gonna find you're gonna find the the tree of life. How do you derive the tree of life out of the bible? So when God speaks the earth speaks the world into existence, In so doing, he creates these programming languages, spheres. Right? And so when he says let there be light and it was good, right in Sefer Yutirah, it's gonna explain to you the tree of life and how that corresponds to the beginning of Genesis, which is the craziest part in my opinion, and how it relates into the Hebrew letters.
So I think that's a really good place to start. Those Hebrew letters are gonna correspond to astrology. And and then from there, you're off to the races. So that's where you're gonna see that magical language being developed. So so I think that's really rich. And then from there, there's Seferha Razim where it's full blown rituals like summoning an air spirit to tell you the truth and really high level stuff with with very serious consequences. But don't do it. Don't do it. But you you'll you'll start seeing what is the what are those processes. Right?
So in terms of occultism, I think you can get a lot there. And then once again, if you I think if you went to a Catholic priest and you told them that you're reading those books, I think if you went to any clergy and you told them they're they're reading those books, they would completely flip out on you. And that's a sign that you're on the right track. Maybe you're on a dangerous track, and it's up to you if you wanna pursue that, but you're definitely on a path. So so there's there's that. I I I think there's a lot of different paths in occultism, and I don't I don't know. This is what I know, and this where,
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earlier you talked about Yeah. The the problem of the ritual purity and not being purified before some rituals. So maybe that's why certain men die on the path or are doing it. None of us are pure.
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Okay. Right now right now, we're covered in sin, and we're we're in the lowest, darkest part. And so there's,
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injury that is that an explanation for the guilt that so many young men especially feel once they once their body circuit comes online and and they begin to, ejaculate and these emissions and now there's guilt associated with it? And and So that whole control thing, figuring that out is sort of the struggle that some men just never
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figure out. They never get past it. Let me let me give you some wizard magic, Krita. Mhmm. So in Judaism, there's there's something called Tikkun Olam, which is like the rip repairing of the world. Right? And so there is the sparks that the Earth is made out of, and and they're trying to reunite everything back into purity. Right? And we're we're at the end of a cycle, and so the sparks which need to be redeemed are the lowest sparks. And so by going down into the darkest filth, that's where the remaining sparks are. Right?
So let's say our conversations, how we know each other, we why are we all in the same wavelength? Because we saw the pandemic. Right? And after the pandemic, we're like, yo, like, like, fuck this. Like, bro, it's just fucking over. Right? So the pandemic, which was the lowest of the low, it was a mass human sacrifice, silver lining brought all of us together. Right? And and reawakened people searching religious texts and doing it in a intellectual way instead of, like, a annoying blowhard. Right? That's that. The next thing we could talk about masturbation. Right? With regards to masturbation, if you're waging a spiritual war on people, one of the most effective things that you could do is get them to jerk off.
Okay? Now, I saw this book, and it was a book on evil amulets. Okay? It was a Hebrew book on evil amulets. And your smartphone, right, is an evil amulet. Right? And we could talk about the pager attack. Maybe that's an evil am like, what is an amulet?
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What's the word that you said just now?
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Amulet.
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But no. The do it with the p. P. With the p. I know what amulet is.
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Pagers.
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Pagers. Oh, pagers? Phones. Okay. Okay. I see. So that you had a buzz on your I I didn't understand what word you said. It was Pager. Yeah. Pager. So Okay.
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So if there is a Kabbalistic text on evil amulets Mhmm. It sounds like you're a blowhard wizard. But what is an amulet? A smartphone is an amulet, and a pager is an amulet. So if I'm using an ancient Kabbalistic text on evil amulets to kill my enemies, right, now I can kill them with an exploding pager, evil amulet, or I now you have a smartphone at any time, you can start jerking off to porn. And as soon as you start jerking off to porn, I can corrupt your soul. And I can get you in that spirit war, and that's the same spirit war that the Egyptians used to control the populations that they were controlling back in the day. Right?
So that's that's actually very high level stuff right there, and it really took me a while to piece that one together. The function of the orgasm,
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was it Reich? And he wrote a lot about that, fascism and the, suppression of the orgasm. Reich?
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Yeah. He had a bunch of sexual, books. I haven't read any of his sexual works,
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but he had quite a few of them. So technology of fascism. I'm trying to remember the titles exactly. But it's all kind of that same idea of, you know, death by a thousand cuts, getting a man alone, and then extending expending his energy so he doesn't go out.
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You look at Japan Japan, the dudes are super feminized. They can't even hardly get these dudes to date because they're so like, people don't understand that you have a a wiring system. And when you start self pleasuring, you're basically setting a pathway. And then you choose, of course, which porn you want, and you start really defining that specific pathway. And, eventually, it no different than if you ate the same food every single day all the time. Anything else becomes fucked up and you don't want it. It it it definitely happens with the with with, that's part of the advantage to being in a long term relationship.
My wife knows what I like. We're comfortable together. I don't have to worry about any weird things with her or being embarrassed about anything. None of it. It's all good. No problem. You know? But these kids, they don't they don't have they've set that wiring for porn, and they lost all interest in women. And and we gotta face it, boys. Women was the whole reason we did anything. Like, we'd still be in a cave. We'd we'd at best be maybe pissing outside the cave. If it it maybe some of the caves would be have have dudes pissing outside. We don't care what we wear. We don't care what we look like. 90% of our motivation is women. And when they've completely taken that away, what are you even gonna fight about? Like, when you were a teenager, a a cute chick would walk by, and you'd be standing next to your best friend, and all of a sudden, one of you two just punches the other one for no apparent reason, and you're scrapping.
Like, you're scrapping. And then the chick is when the chick's far enough away, you're done, and you're both like, why are we fighting? Uh-uh.
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Uh-uh. Uh-uh. So okay. So there's reproductive sex. So okay. Let's say there's three types of sex. Right? There's reproductive sex. Great. There is tantric sex. And in tantric sex, I'm sure you guys both know, they drag out the orgasm to get you into a high level meditation state, and, ideally, you can connect up. Right? So you see it in Hinduism. You see it in a lot of practices.
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In Illuminism, I'm sure you're using withholding ejaculation.
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Yes. And and I'm sure you'll start getting really tense and all sorts of stuff, and you're gonna hitting start hitting certain frequencies. Right? When you're having sex with a woman Now when you're 50, it's called prostate problems. So so what they're gonna be, what they're trying to do is when you're having sex with a woman, you're trying to draw down a soul. It's a material reality. Right? So there's a lot of stuff happening on that side. But if you can get someone to just spill the seed, that energy can then go, boom, to feed demons.
Because those demons thirst for your human virility. They're they're parasitic like like mosquitoes. Right? And so if you're covered in sin, they want to possess you so they can feel your sin. And if if there's blood or if there's semen, they want that virile energy to feed themselves because they can't get that energy from God. Right? So if I can trick you into jerking off with an evil amulet, you're then gonna summon a lot of demons through your own semen who are then going to pester you to try and drain you as much as possible. Right?
Boom. And so so so that kind of stuff, like, it's it's actually like, what I said, it's just very high level of cultism. It's it's it's dead serious. Right? And you can see how it's a cult enough, and it's practical enough. Right? So so there's a lot of things that if if you have a deep understanding of the Bible and you have a deep understanding of these games, you can see how the Bible's weaponized. And so when people start saying, well, like, is it literal? Is it metaphor no. It's literal. And is it practical? Yeah. It's practical. Right?
So I'd be really, really careful. And and you can see how, like, the you can tell who masturbates. Right? You can see the light leave their eyes. And, and so, like, you know, there's this whole no not November joke, and it's funny.
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But if you see it as spiritual warfare, it's actually really not funny. It's not funny. So no. Not November is during men's health month, and, like, prostate health is part of men's health and grow a mustache and don't shave in November. They're doing semen retention during prostate health month?
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That's interesting. Mhmm. That's a Well, weird. Semen retention during prostate month is not you know, you'd think maybe December would then be prostate health month. Like,
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those those those are the strange, signifiers of our culture with
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significant meaning. November, that thing's packed up tight. Something needs to go.
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Yeah. I guess. But but yeah. So I guess there's sex magic is really powerful. Death magic is really powerful. And then the other thing is the more sin they can get on you, the further you're gonna be magic.
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The what? You got sex magic. You got the other Blood magic. Death and taxes are the other certainties. Yeah. The there's money too. Right?
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But with,
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It was our original to to paying taxes. Is there No problem. Original to refuse to pay taxes to Caesar? Or
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I I was in this situation. I was in an argument with a religious guy. Mhmm. And, I was really upset at him. And he's like, oh, like, it's fine. I'll just pay you. He said that to me. And I was like, no. I don't want your fucking money. Like, you fucked up. Unfuck yourself. It's on you. But it's it was actually a very big insult because had I taken the money, then that means I'm of the material world, and I have a low spirit that I could be bribed by the material world. So when when he said, oh, I'll just pay you and it's fine. Just forgive me. And I said, look. I'll forgive you. I don't give a fuck. But but you you fix yourself. Like, don't know that you fucked up. You fixed yourself.
I'll let this pass. I'm not taking any money. But when when they say that, oh, here's money, and I'm bribing you off, they're testing if you're spiritually low and you could be bribed through the material world. And it was actually a very deep insult. And I was like, oh, you think you could just bribe me like this? You think it you think this isn't on principle? This is on principle. I don't give a fuck about anything. You know? So so if if you know the teachings, and you speak to these high level religious people, some of them are good, some of them are bad, but that that's not my point. My point is that they're practitioners of they're basically wizard.
And and by observing them, you can see how they're they're playing their wizard game. So, yeah, for me, it it's not that I have a strong understanding of the a call. I I understand some. I have some basic symbolic literacy. I hooked it into psychoanalysis. Boom. And and I think, do you guys know any Kabbalism? Mhmm. Okay. Do you know about, Yesod and Shekinah? Yeah. Okay. Well, so so those
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last sephiro you can't get nobody to fucking talk about in the dad tree.
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Okay. So but you need to get, you need to get them to to merge. Right? Mhmm. And so that's what's happening in the book. Right? Because you have the divine feminine. You have, divine masculine, and they're gonna they're gonna merge.
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Right.
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And then and and those two polarities coming together is just gonna shoot you up.
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See, that's where and I'm sorry about the peacocks. Yes. And I've seen it in the chat a number of times. It is peacock season. Yes. But so that that's again for me because, again, of the laboratory work, a miss on where they put out a lot of misinformation. And so when you look at alchemy and the way it's classically looked at is that the the sulfur side is feminine, and then the salt side is masculine. And what they don't understand is that's like saying that hot and cold are
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masculine and feminine. It's not that necessarily that they're gender.
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What but so the way the mechanics of it actually works is when you're looking at, like, a plant, an animal, whatever, when you're doing alchemy, when you're putting it through the great work salt and the sulfur are both masculine. And what it is is the masculine's been broken and polarized against itself. Okay. So what the feminine is doing is allowing the two masculine components to come back together and heal itself and become one again. Okay. That makes sense. Both that fireside and that ice side, they're both masculine. Both of them.
And the feminine is healing that and putting them back together. And then That makes sense. And then the alchemical marriage happens where all three where all where it coagulates into one thing. And that's why the stone shows both the fireside and the ice side. It it will get runny and watery like the like the fireside, but then it will also turn into a stone when it's cold, which is the is the ice side. And it carries both characteristics now because the masculine was always supposed to have both, but you're you're you're lacking one. That's why we're stronger than, like, in in your terminology, angels or demons, because they both only have one side. We have both, but we're there it's a dirty connection.
So the great work is cleaning that connection and then completely healing the masculine through the feminine.
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I'm not gonna I'm not gonna disagree. I I I I don't I don't know. Like, I think I feel like you know. Like, what what I what I'll what I'll tell you is what I know is those spheres, the separate spheres, they themselves are composed of other spheres, and it's it's a fractal. Mhmm. And
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Marcus, send him my tree of life talk.
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Yes.
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You hear the you hear the cat talk the cat fight?
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Yeah. Instead of cat versus
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I'm gonna go see if that's not that fucking ravaging dog. I think I got it, but I'm not a % sure because you're never sure in the woods.
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Right.
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Never sure in the woods.
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Okay. I'm just Just living off the grid. Oh, okay. Homesteading.
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Alright. Real life. Yeah. So that makes sense. I I so okay. Let let he needs to make a diagram.
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That's that's exactly
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how I should point number one where you're talking about you got the knowledge, need to write the book, that's Okay. So okay. So okay. You saw my diagrams. Okay. Great. Hopefully, they're good. I I threw as much manpower as I could. Mhmm. But there's things I did well, and there's things I didn't. Right. But so he has all this knowledge, and it's oral.
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There's a tree of life model. We've we've built it. Toothpicks and marshmallows. It's a three d structure. Letters assigned to it. You know, it's making progress on this.
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Slow and steady. It's not on paper. No one sees it. Right? It's not a published book yet. So Yep. I can spend a certain amount of money and mail my book Mhmm. To perspective people who are gonna sell he has this mysterious model, and he's a very intelligent man, and no one will ever know. Right? So to kinda go back full circle, if you have this knowledge, it has to be compiled into something
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because we're all I didn't write a book. You're right. There's no doubt. You need to write a book. Like
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like, I I he can either write a book or he can write parts of a book. I think it's easier for him to write parts of a book and you guys to work together as a team. That can be your alchemical marriage. You could roll it forward, and you could push it forward. Right? And I think there's a lot of truth of in what you're saying. And then if someone like me reads this book, then it'll give me the resources necessary to decode all the wizard books that I'm trying to read. Right? So that's that's really the thing I'm I'm getting at. Like, yeah. I read a book. Please buy my book. You guys are gonna love it.
Yes. But on the other side of that, I wanna inspire people to start publishing, to start writing, especially groups groups like yours. And there's a lot of things that I figured out. Like, you know, there's Pegasus there. There's, you know, the the Babylonian centaur there. There's a lot of things that design characteristics that I figured out, right, that can make it easier for you guys to do it. I feel like ball does Balderson have one of my books? No. Right? Can I can you just I'll I'll I'll send you a book this week?
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I mean, if you want to. If not, I was just I want to. The one from Marcus. We weren't trying to get a whole bunch from you. Okay. I was Marcus was perusing this one now. Okay. Jim Jim, the other guy, got has the other one, and Okay. They had a baby, and the baby came premature. And, they it's it's, you know, life. Life. You know?
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It's a slow and slow and steady path. Sure. So, you know, whatever you guys want, you know, like, send me some addresses. I'll mail mail you some books. But the important thing is, like, I'm right on some things. I'm wrong on some things, But I figured out a lot of processes that can decrease the amount of work that you guys are doing, and we can roll it forward because as you guys said, like, there's a lot of occultism that you disagree with. But your position on alchemy of of healing the broken masculine, that's the first time I heard that. I haven't seen that anywhere, and I don't know how much reading Baldrisson had to do to do it or how I'd find those books or what I'd have to do. Right? It would be a tremendous work for me to do that. Right? So I would love to just kind of see his formula and then take his formula and apply it back through all the cultism books that I know.
So I I guess, for me, that's what this conversation is about, is that I don't think that your team is any worse than my team. I think you're incredibly intelligent. You could do it. And, you know, you guys are going to fairs and launching fireworks and stuff. Okay. And you're battling raccoons. Okay. But I think where you're the most exalted is if you push a book. And and then from there, we could have we could support each other. You know? I I have a very interesting audience of manosphere people, political people. I have a wine guy. I have anti vaccine moms.
I'm gonna translate my book into Spanish. So I have, like Remember the sexiest kinds? The
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The anti vax moms? Anti vax moms.
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They're they're kind of single issue people. There's
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You know, a lot that's actually you know, most people are single issue people. You know? I mean, that's that's the difference between a Renaissance person and a normal person. Most people, that's what you get. You're gonna get a
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single issue. That's fine. But a lot of those issues are gonna start coalescing, and then you're gonna start seeing a bigger truth. Right? So, sometimes that person's single issue is the key that you were looking for to get to this next thing. Right? Like, in in high levels of mysticism, you have to start learning math, and you have to start understanding how matrices work. And then I was like, fuck. Like, I have to call my programmers and have them lecture me about matrices. I hate matrices, and I don't wanna do any more math. So it's it's good to have this community because some of these things really require a multidisciplinary approach.
Yeah. So I I guess that so I I would I would highly recommend, one, I'd love ballers since read my book because you're great.
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Sure. And I'm remembering that. I'm very much looking forward to it. We we wanted we Marcus and I asked a number of times, but I said Jim was stuck. Like, a month, he was stuck up in the getting a free meal with the Hanover. First edition book with the original cover. Get get my, get my second edition book with the with the 2,000
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cover.
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I I I put the I put my address in the back, brother. Okay. Please. Okay. And and so the the thing I am gonna say is, unfortunately, there is no books that say what I try what I told you there. Okay. And so where where I really put that together is when I I changed my spagyrics to a really high level. So your traditional spagyrics, when you're taking and removing the oil from the plant, you're doing it with hot. So, like, your your typical person will take and, like, do something like boil water, run the steam through the plant material, the steam will rip out the the oil, and they'll process it from there. Well, because I have microscopes and because I I do this, I started extracting, and I wanted to extract live.
And when I extract plant material live as opposed to older plant material, I started noticing that there's a a yellow component in it, and it's like a it's the life of the of the oil. And that will degrade. The oil itself, I can take and I can run it through a distillation process and I can purify it, and the oil actually doesn't degrade that much. Okay. It eventually does, but the life the life degrades, like, immediately really fast. And it goes from yellow to a reddish to a brownish then black. And by the time it's black, the efficacy of the plant material is almost nothing compared to when it was live.
Almost nothing. And so when I started doing that and started preserving that component and then understanding that the oil in and of itself is the mercury, that's the mercurial component. And so that yellow is riding inside of that. That life is inside of there. And what you're doing when you open up the salt, which is what the oil is then also doing, because the oil is opening up that path. That's why Mercury's the messenger or the Mercury sets the boundaries, blah blah blah. Because this transition or transaction can only happen inside the bounds of where the mercury is, and the mercury is the feminine. And so inside those bounds, that's where this transaction happens, where this yellow life force, you know, in a plant, not in all Okay. Like, you know, spagyrics and as above so below. Okay. Where this life force enters the salt through the mercury And the salt and then the sulfur become one thing.
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Okay. I'm gonna put my chemist on this. Absolutely. I got a chemist here. He's a really serious guy. So oh, so that's what I'm saying. I'm gonna so, like, you see how you're going you're going beyond my knowledge. I'm gonna tag my guy in,
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Which I I don't have an issue with that. That that's, you know, that that's, that's I also have people just the other day, that whole thing with the pyramid came out. I have a friend who does nothing but study the pyramids. Okay. And then he lives in he he lives in Egypt just so he could do that. Okay. And so I said, hey. What's up with that? And and he put out a video where he took the the the radars that they were showing, and he overlaid it over the things that we know exist. And it Okay. It wasn't great. Like, it wasn't accurately depicting things that are known. So then to so then to assume that what it's showing else, you know, in areas we don't know, you can't take that, you know, for a lot either. But I I'm it's it's exactly like what you're saying. I don't have that expertise.
I'm not in Egypt studying the pyramids. I called him.
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Okay. Yeah. So that's
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It's the land of Kim, Jeff.
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Yeah. Land of Yeah. Land of Kim.
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Make a note of that. Share that link again. Yeah.
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Got it. Yeah. He, he he I got to actually hang out with that guy too at Freeman Fly's house. I think you would enjoy Freeman Fly's work.
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Okay. His older work, his stuff his stuff about religions and esoteric stuff. Can you send me the the links? Mhmm. Because I'm a bit tired now. So, like Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. I guess I guess that this is unrelated. Do you know about glycine? It's an amino acid. Okay. And it tastes sweet. Okay. And it helps you sleep. Oh. And it's more mild than melatonin. And so one of my friends is making glyce cream, which is like a sorbet made with glycine. The amino acids, it just has no sugar in it. But on this mystical side, you get into this kind of mystical, dissociative kind of vibe.
And if you're doing the right meditations, you know, it's nothing harsh, not like marijuana or LSD, but still you you kinda you get somewhere very quickly, and you start getting ideas that you normally wouldn't get because you're on a different wavelength without being, like, a complete drug addict or or endangering yourself. Just just glycine. And, if you just order a bag of glycine, and it's but,
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yeah, my book has some recipes that are funny. I was just gonna say that your book does have some some recipes to, to make the batter thicker.
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Right. So when you make the batter thicker, you have a more intense orgasm. And the longer your orgasm, the higher you are in the elevated state. So and, also, it'll help with prostate. But if you have this huge ejaculation, right, and you're doing some kind of tantric whatever, you could be in that resonant state longer, and, also, you could produce more children. So that's it it that's there's a spiritual thing. There's a tantric thing, and but there's also a a purely sexual or reproductive
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I got seven kids. I didn't need to do an O tantra. Fucking I I I it it is hard as hell not to keep having kids. Okay.
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Yeah.
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I got eight grandkids already. My kids seem to have the same problem.
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Okay.
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We're taking back we're taking it back.
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Yeah. Keep them away from Iran and stuff like that. That's not that's gonna be the next but yeah. So yeah. So I have that. And then the other thing is I feel like petrochemical drugs bring you down spiritually. And it's when you start doing meditation, and I'm not saying I'm good at it. I don't think I am at all, but I can feel when I'm cleaner and when I'm less clean. And there's obviously certain foods that will bring me down, but any kind of petrochemical drugs or, like, coffee, I feel like coffee is, like, really evil. Like, you really just, like, you just go down. You know?
As I experienced it, I don't know. Even Mormon belief. Yeah.
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Alcohol eaters. I can't drink it. Oh, you can't drink it? No. Anything that's an upper, I can't drink at all. Okay. I don't drink pop. I don't coffee. None of it. The caffeinated culture
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plus the petrochemical drugs, including birth control. We have all these women who are, you know, always drinking the coffee, and they're always taking their birth control pill, and that kinda puts them in a different place. And then if they stop taking the pill, they kind of see the world differently. They're they're noticing.
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So I I'm not gonna advocate for any religion, but there's different religious figures of different religions, and you can feel that you're in the presence of a holy man, that he's on a higher frequency than you. Right? And that's actually a really good point because if you're like, this is what high is, I know what low is. I know what a low frequency is. Right? And you can see that once they're on Lipitor or they're on birth control, they they really get materialistic. It's kind of in a platonic sense. Right? The more sacred you are, the less materialistic you become. Right? That's why when this religious guy was, like, trying to bribe me off, I was thinking like, oh, you think I'm materialistic? Oh, you think I'm like that? But regardless. So but you can you can feel that those drugs bring people down. And, also, that vaccine, a %, I don't care what anyone says, brought people down spiritually.
It could it could have had, you know, like, dead babies in it. It could have had any number of stuff. Right? Like, cannibals will also bring you down spiritually. Right? And so the vaccinated, it's any kind of religious idea or religious belief. It's just anathema to them, and they're not gonna discuss it, especially, like, the hyper four times vaccinated. You're like, hey. Like, I'm studying meditation. Did you know that if you do the prayers of your religion while doing this breathing exercise that you can go higher and that you could be inspired by other kinds of thoughts? And they're gonna be like, that's all nonsense.
What are you doing? Oh, just breathing techniques during meditation, during prayer. Just breathing to you know? So
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I really think that and Lipitor is a demonic sounding name.
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Yeah. I well, you know, that yoga is actually very interesting. Right? Because you're in the Hindu religion, a %, and the yoga mat is a prayer mat. No question about that. Mhmm. And you're doing rituals of Hinduism. And if you're aligned with Hinduism, great. But if you're a Christian,
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you're in polytheism now. Sometimes you're doing it barefoot, and sometimes you're doing a organically you're polytheistic
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also. So but They just don't know it. They're they're they're very confused. Christians are polytheistic. They're just very confused. So
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but you could what kind of yoga are you doing? You know, you're channeling what? You see what I mean? Like, you're doing what? You don't know. And then they're making faces, and those faces correspond to certain things. It's a whole world, and I'm thinking, like, all of you guys are involved in, like what? You know, I I don't wanna critique Hinduism, but at the same time, I if you're doing something, maybe you should do it willfully, but then others people can't let them. But, I I my thing is there's just a lot of questions, and I think it's important we just ask the questions. Maybe we're gonna get to the answer, maybe not, but I think this is an interesting, train of thought, to consider to look at.
And, and that's that. And then I think the other thing is my book takes off. I'd I'd love to bring you out to Mexico. And so you could see this because it's it's definitely something.
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I had a few other fellas try to talk about it. They talked about moving to Mexico saying it's pretty awesome. Steve was like, when my kid turns 18, I'm down. Like, or or graduates college or whatever he's waiting on with Connor. No. He's probably waiting on Waylon. Yeah. Whenever his youngest gets 18, he said he's out. Like
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there's a lot of different kinds of Mexico here. And I just what I love about Mexico is that all of that CNN propaganda, you just don't hear it anymore. All of that, people pushing you away because you're right coded, you don't hear that anymore. And you're just it's you're good. You know what I mean? You're good. You're clean. And it's it's good to kinda go back. I mean, you're going back into their society as a foreigner, but the the kind of
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yeah. I do understand what you're saying. Obviously, I live off grid, like, so far out in the mountains that it takes an hour to go to somewhere where I can buy a pop or a bottle of water or a pack of cigarettes.
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Right.
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And I have to have Starlink to have any kind of a signal. When you get out here away from all that because there's no cable, there's no TV, most people don't have Internet, nothing. It's all all that shit just dies. All that shit's gone, but you've gotta be pretty far away from it. And there's not that many places in in The States that you can do that anymore. But I understand what you're saying. I'm you know, like I said, it's I'm not in a whole other country, but you could talk to people up here on the mountain, and they don't know a damn thing about what you're talking about because this little world here, it doesn't have anything to do with anything else.
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So in Mexico, I'm in a normal world without that. Right? So I'm still in civilization without being labeled. Still, you know, can walk to supermarket, still can meet people. There's just there's a whole global world.
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And That's fair. I made Mexico into the backwoods. That is fair.
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There is backwoods Mexico, and and and what's interesting is I went to a steak rest so so there's left coated Mexico and there's right coated Mexico. And when I go to left coated Mexico, they're like, oh, like, you want you you want a coffee? Okay. We make coffees here. I'm like, yeah. I know. But I walked into a steak restaurant, and it it was really interesting because, like, you know, they're wearing, like, cowboy hat and boots, and, like, white people don't go there. Right? And so there's this kinda look like, wait. What? And, like, I'm like, I want a steak. And they're like, let's just steak. Me and my friend a steak. And, like, he needs to acknowledge me because I'm a muscular guy, but it's like these right coded things.
But I'm not Mexican. So, like, in left coded spaces, they don't acknowledge you. In right coded spaces, they wanna acknowledge you, but they don't know how to acknowledge you. And so watching that whole cascade is actually really interesting. So I I don't know. I think if I had to advertise it, the meet meet here is good. It's cheap. You can go fishing. There's really good beaches. If you don't do anything stupid, no one's ever gonna bother you. And you can kinda just live your life in civilization, but without them getting into your business.
That's really funny. Yes. That's this is what I got. But either way, it's a reference to buy my book. Send me your address. I'll send you my book. I love being here, and you're the first people to pick me up. And so I really, really appreciate you guys. And I really love that you understand esotericism because some of these people have no idea what the fuck's going on. And, like, there's this, obese Indian satanist who really didn't like me.
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Who got your book and didn't know how to read it? Well, you know, they didn't wanna fight with us at all, and we tried picking a fight with them. Yeah. That that that I've been around the esoteric circles for a while. Oh. You know?
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And they were they were gatekeeping, esoteric ideas themselves. They kinda keep their their followers, unaware of other ideas. So when we show up to talk about other ideas, they just, tend to ignore us.
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Okay. Well, maybe we could
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look at some of these esoteric texts together at some point. Sure. You talked about left coded and right coded Mexican restaurants. That also happens in so called esoteric circles, which talk in in, that sort of thing. So when you encountered that group of people
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Those are what we call universalists.
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Yeah. They didn't like the masculine energy. They didn't like that.
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But what if you alchemically just ground them up?
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That's why they won't that's why they won't go near me. Because, like, literally, dude, like, if you if you ever watch Weaving Spiders, like, they had one of the head guys of the OTO come on. Okay. And I lit that dude up. He was scared to talk. Okay. Okay. So I was really curious. Okay. So
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so okay. So I know Cali, all that stuff. Mhmm. I was curious, but, like, I I kinda don't wanna talk to them because I don't know what kind of people they're like. But they were left coded in the a OTO. Right? Like, there There are subreddits
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that Oh, man. Post about OTO activities. And just browsing through some of their top topics, you'll discover what is acceptable, and then there's a huge silence of material that's removed by the moderators because it's not allowed to be discussed.
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Okay. So there I mean, because, like, you know, Crowley was kinda down for whatever.
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You know? Here There are so many flavors of correct dilemma that they argue amongst themselves.
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Yeah. You can't you can't hardly get in a word edge wise with the Thelemites. They're too busy fucking arguing amongst themselves.
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I met Fighting over leadership, fighting over, you know, who is, you know, the proper heir to the throne of the Yeah. The the leader of the Before before I did YouTube or any of this shit, dude, I had I had,
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actual TV type show, and I was on the the, world's only pagan station, and I was on the biggest pagan radio station in the world.
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Okay.
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And they they dude, it's ridiculous with these people at the top. They are they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. They they've it it's it's all political games. There's been so much, you would almost wanna call it, nepotism, but it's not even nepotism because half the time, it's just good old boy type shit. Like this guy from the OTO. He's one of the heads of the OTO. He promotes this other guy up to one of the upper rankings, not because of his occult achievements and understandings, but because he was a editor at a a book company, and he said, well, get my book published. So he got a book published not because it was a good book, but because this guy wanted to get raised up in the ranks.
And then that guy, you know, get gets raised up in the ranks without having to prove his occult understandings. And this kind of thing has been happening for a very long time now into the point where the people in the upper rankings of these things don't have any fucking idea what they're talking about.
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Okay. Middle managers and administration. Also, I forgot to ask. Do you guys have an email list or no? Because I have an affiliate code, and I can, like, I can I think I sent you my affiliate code? I could pay you for every book you sell because that's what my business mentors told me to do.
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Yeah. No. That's a smart that's a smart, model. George Weisman did that, and his shit went from, like he was just doing it by himself to he had to hire, like, 10 people to try and keep up. Yeah.
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So if you have an email list, I had, a manosphere guy do that. I sent him some money, because right now, the manosphere likes me and these right coded, political circles like me. And I'm trying to move into these occult circles. But, I don't know if the OTO is gonna like the pillars of wisdom.
[03:10:39] Unknown:
I don't know if they're As long as you take my name out of it, they're the other guys are still friends with them. It's only me that lit the dude up. Like Oh, but and it as you can see, like, being a practicing laboratory, a cultist, I have different ideas. And the thing is is my shit stands up. And it stands up, and the thing is is then it also stands up in their understandings, and it fits into theirs. And because my shit works the way the world works. Like
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and it really pisses them off. Do do you think do you think they'll be okay with my book or they're gonna attack me as a leftist? No. No.
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They're fine with they're fine with this? I think on an individual level, there might be members who affiliate with certain Of course. That are going to want to buy the book because they wanna build an old cult library. So they're gonna wanna have the book on their shelf because no one else has it. So the exclusivity of having on the shelf, that that's that's an appealing thing. Whether or not they will promote it or talk about it or praise it or give it a recommendation, that's another story. But there are people who buy weird, strange, esoteric, one of a kind copies of books that they can't get anywhere else, and they'll buy a bunch of copies of them just to have them.
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Okay. I just okay. I I don't know.
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But in terms of joining, you know, one of their live streams, they they don't get along. This is this is kind of thing too. And, like, these these female owned businesses where it's all women working together, how long does that last before it falls apart?
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Because the whole thing is is once you took the lab out of it, everybody can have their own idea. But once you have the lab and the labs has its own idea, now your ideas have to fit in that. It puts the boundaries on it. They took the bounds off, and now they could say whatever kind of crazy shit they want. Oh, well, this means this.
[03:12:38] Unknown:
You know? Like, everybody's an alchemist now, and alchemy means whatever the fuck they want it to mean. That's what's happened with the red pill on Reddit. There was, you know, the blue pill posters, red pill posters, and now they're in their safe space of this purple
[03:12:52] Unknown:
Well, let's okay. Let me maybe this can be our closed conversation. Let me tell let me tell you about the red pill. What happened on the red pill was there's this guy named Red Pill School, and he's a low level politician, and his name got leaked. And he's he's like a dorky programmer. He aggregated everything. Then there's this guy, Rola Tomasi, who, he still hates me, and he sends me the insert out. Fucking Mjolnir. I've called him a blowhard many times, and,
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I it's the villain near vexing? Because that's that's Thor's hammer.
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Why is he doing that? It's I've talked to him. I've because he thinks it's cool, probably. So, basically, he he's a single issue guy, and his single issue is that women prefer better men. He calls it hypergamy that they're gonna throw you away. But
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Can't disagree with that.
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His sexual dating is that he's an alcohol distributor in Nevada in Reno, Nevada. And if you think about Reno 911 and that whole aesthetic, that's his aesthetic. And and he universalizes that Reno nine one one aesthetic to all women. Yeah. Doesn't he mostly date hookers? Yes. And I made the point that if you're paying for sex, that's a different role. Pay for it. Anyone can pay for it. Yeah. So my whole thing is I similar you have your laboratory, I would read my sociology books. I'd read my psychology books, and I'd apply those books, and I try to move things forward. He didn't want anything move forward, like the OTO that you discussed.
And from there, the censorship happened, and I got into this whole thing. And I'm like, I'm trying to move things forward, like and there's a whole ego thing because I'm just back then, 23 years old, he's 44, 40 five, and I'm just starting to write. I'm just starting to put things together. And he has all these minis that he's sending at me, And he sent an African American minion at me, like, I wanna say in October or something. So it's the the red pill was doomed because of Rolo because they were so busy sucking his dick that they never wanted to reinforce or expand their theory or refine their theory through outside stuff.
And then it got monetized with Fresh and Fit or Feds, and we're done. Like that
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Well, there's kind of is there a schism amongst the, the Fresh and Fit partnership?
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Dude, I can't believe that they're still that they that they didn't have just a crash recently because the one, whichever one, Myron Gaines or whatever, whichever one he is. I don't know if he's fresh or fit or whatever. But he, apparently, the other one's ex girlfriend was on whatever podcast, and he called ice on her while she was on on the show. Like, wow, douchebag.
[03:16:21] Unknown:
Wow. They what I believe is that there is the red pill, and we there's a lot of conspiracy stuff. There's vaccine stuff going on. There's a lot of economic discourse. There's beginning of a cult discourse. It was a completely unregulated space, and we were downregulated, and everything got funneled into Peterson and into Fresh and Fit into these very dumbed down spaces. And then
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now I'm And then I think we all went to, like, Rockfin and Rumble and shit. We got cut out of the main space. Right. Yeah. And and I'm with this book, I'm I'm trying to fight back into the center,
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and I think we have an opportunity to to do that. And I think when the book format, we could sell a shit ton of books before they know what the fuck's happening, get on to everyone's bookshelves. And by the time they do know what's happening, I already sold a whole bunch of books and they can go fuck themselves. So I I want you guys to get on that train because I know you have some controversial things to say. And when the ban hammer comes down, you're already on everyone's bookshelves. Like, this was
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behind me. So I I a % agree with you that it's coming again, and this has been they they like to give this enough they like to give you enough rope, you know, so you can hang yourself is what's going on. And Yeah. They're in this transition and they're letting everybody have the rope because you notice anybody that pays attention starts noticing different censorships have already made their way in and are already doing their thing. I mean, fuck. Vandalizing a fucking a Tesla is now an act of terrorism. Really?
Who gives a fuck about Teslas? Like, I mean, I think it's crazy that they wanna vandalize them, and and it's only directed at the Cybertruck. I mean, that's this is such a weird media nonsense. Heard the Cybertruck is faulty.
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Oh, they're horrible. They need them destroyed Yeah. So that they can they can recoup the cost. They did that with the
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earliest electric car where they they put it out and then they took it back. There's a whole documentary years ago about who killed the electric car. Yeah. So it's the same thing, rhyming. It's not repeating, but it's rhyming. So it's very similar over and over again, and the notices are seeing the pattern. And, you know, we're at the end of history period where it's all coalescing into something. You know, whether or not that happens, you know, this year within our lifetimes, but we can see it on the horizon that something is
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is coming along. Have you guys checked out substack?
[03:19:12] Unknown:
Yep. Because Marcus does. I'm not very good with computery stuff. Like, I I've lived I've only had, Starlink for, like, a year and a half. Before that, I didn't have no Internet or nothing.
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Well, Substack, there's a lot of interesting writing. Yeah. And it's a really good place to meet people and and figure out what they're reading. And sometimes you meet, like, deep crazy people, and sometimes you meet, like, more moderate people. And it it's a good exchange of ideas, and all the shit Redditors aren't there. So I've been I've been mailing out a lot of books because of Substack, and I think this is a good place for you guys to refine your writing. You know, you have these talks. You have your talks, you move it into writing, Clean that up. Boom. Book. You know? I have, like, a a workflow, you know, verbal written book. You know? So so I guess that I don't know. I love you guys. Thanks for having me on. Thanks for coming on, brother. Pillarsofwisdom.com.
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Pillars of wisdom. Send me your address. I'll send you guys some books. Send me, private chat. If you didn't get a copy paste that, I'll send it to your Okay.
[03:20:29] Unknown:
Well, can can you just can you just message it to me Yep. On Telegram? So send me those two, send me those two addresses. Yep. I got it. Yeah. And then I'll I'll have my my guy do that because,
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Bawlerson's the best, and I'd love for my book to be on this bookshelf. It's a it stays out there. It's a it's a hell of a live it's a hell of a library. I've got about at least I could fill half a dozen bookshelves at least. Okay. And and I would definitely appreciate having it. It's, I I would like to read through it. Perfect. Perfect. Well, thank you so much. Give me all that stuff. I'll have my guy send it tomorrow. What's your telegram, brother?
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Hold on. My Telegram?
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K. Do you have my public Telegram that you're I do have a public Telegram.
[03:21:23] Unknown:
It is hold on. It's it's well, you you can refer me.
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Mhmm.
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It's but it's it's my real
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it's my real middle name. Do you have you have it, Marcus? Do you have his telegram?
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Yeah. Just,
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just hook me up on that, Marcus. Okay. Yep.
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Send that over. Oh, I I can also, do you read PDFs? Because I I have a whole PDF library.
[03:21:50] Unknown:
Nice.
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Nice. Of my occult books.
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Very good. Yeah. I said I haven't had a a you know, the computer thing hasn't been my thing. I've got hey. Like, I've got everything from, like I've got original, Goishas before it was reprinted. Okay. I got, you know, you name it. Like, old old crazy asshole books. I've got and and some of them, I don't know that a PDF I would even necessarily want just depending on the book. Some books, a %, I'd read a PDF. But, like like, you take, like, something like, you know, Dante's Inferno. Yeah. You know? I mean, most ideals of hell are based off of Dante's Inferno. And and so one of the one of the real advantages to this is just the the just like your book has fantastic artwork, and it really does. His book's got fantastic artwork, guys.
But this has also got the the fantastic, plates in there. And going with the the story and everything. And the thing is is when you get them in the originals like this, people don't realize how many times they change things. And I'm not talking about just, like, crazy changes. What's up, Steve? Crazy changes like, like Peter Pan. The original Peter Pan, I like to also collect old fairy tales and things like that and the old, like, originals. And, dude, they're dark. And, like, Peter Pan, the original Peter Pan's not a nice guy. He he's a dude that just wants to be irresponsible, and he runs around killing people and shit. And then if if you decide to become a responsible adult and you're, like, one of his people, he'll kill you too. Okay. Like, there's no letting other people become adults. It's all about this, entire infantilization that he tries to maintain, and nobody else can be let free of it or else it breaks the whole thing so he kills him.
But, anyways, I'm I'm I I I love having, like, the old books. Like, look at that shit. Like, this Yeah. This is Dante's Inferno. Yeah. You know, like, look at this. And this is where most Christians actually got their ideals from of hell from and things like that. But I've got all kinds of shit like this, and, yeah, I'd I'd love to have yours too. Amazing. Amazing. Well, that's the most amazing compliment for me. Well, thank you so much.
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Tell your friends. Hopefully, they'll buy a copy from me. I'll send you guys a copy because you helping so much. And have a great evening, and send everything over to me. I'll send everything over to you. And, we'll do another one of these. Yep. You soon. We'll chat soon.
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Talk to you soon. Thank you.
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Bye.
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How'd you do with with selling tickets, Steve?
[03:24:50] Unknown:
Hopefully, it worked out. I don't know. Alright. We'll check I'll check-in the morning.
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It's froze before hoes, you fucking pimp,
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bitch. Yeah. In this case, I'm my own bro.
[03:25:06] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Yeah. Acceptable. Yeah.
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That not dude. May may actually be hoeing for the festival, but, you know
[03:25:21] Unknown:
Fucking fucking straight some fucking asshole. There's some stray dog under what apparently it killed Buddy. That's why I had to bail earlier.
[03:25:30] Unknown:
Oh, no.
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Yeah.
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Might wanna put Chloe in the green room again.
[03:25:38] Unknown:
Why don't you be alpaca?
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Yeah.
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Oh. Wow. Shit, dude. I'm sorry.
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Steve, can you put our guests in the guest room? Oh, yeah. There it is. Okay. Thank you.
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He's going in the woods when I took some plugs at him. I hope I got him. He's shit.
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Yeah.
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Almost got him with Suburban. Lost traction. Fucking dog. That sucks, man. These these pieces of shit fucking they bring these dogs out here and just kick them out. Yeah. And then eventually, the dog's starving, and it's not the dog's fault. Yeah. But also can't be letting things kill my animals.
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No. No. And then he gets away with it once. He's gonna come back.
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%. Yeah. %.
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That's fucked up.
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Yep. Buddy was such a good boy. Mhmm.
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Talks a little bit about I'll read that. Yet. I was just gonna ask him about the crucible and some of the other guys in in the in the group. We'll have to touch on that next time.
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He doesn't seem to be so, adversarial. I don't know if he would, enjoy their their, talking with those guys. They're very adversarial. I mean, I definitely, he can we could bring it up and ask and if we actually ever fucking start talking to them. Obviously, we got the debate coming up with Jim Bob. But,
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It's always on the horizon until it happens. When when is that, by the way?
[03:27:38] Unknown:
Whenever he just got back. I will I will shoot him an email right now as I as I'm being harassed.
[03:27:46] Unknown:
No. I mean, no. Just just curious. Because, yeah, again, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be on the road next week, and we'll be, like, getting back in, a little bit before we're supposed to go live the week after that. So next Tuesday is April 1. That's my birthday.
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Kind of a silly day there.
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Yep. So you're saying there's a there's maybe a chance of a stream on a Tuesday from us, maybe? I mean, I'll set up the I'll set up the stream and shit like that. I just can't participate. I'm gonna be driving. That could be As as next week. Right? Yeah.
[03:28:24] Unknown:
Yeah. It won't be next week. I'm sure of that. Probably the week after maybe, though.
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Okay. Well, yeah, we should be rolling in, I don't know, early afternoon that day. So what's that? The, eighth? Yeah. But no matter what, I'll be able to at least, like, set up a stream and, you know, connect a laptop to my hot spot and do all the setup stuff.
[03:29:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Although, hopefully, that's not the case for the Jim Bob debate because we really need all three of us here for that one. But
[03:29:19] Unknown:
Well, hopefully, it'll be the first. Our intention is to start relationships and build them over time and have going. Have conversations.
[03:29:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, I mean, shit, dude, if if GLO didn't mind coming back. You know? Oh, yeah.
[03:29:45] Unknown:
To be fair, I plan on being harder on the Ortho Bros.
[03:29:52] Unknown:
They do train themselves to have an answer to everything. They're apologetics.
[03:29:57] Unknown:
And I got your email, Sheree. Thank you.
[03:30:01] Unknown:
Everything in my chart is Aries or Leo, but I have a Virgo moon. That's what I'm told. I think astrology is metaphysical racism, personally.
[03:30:15] Unknown:
Functionally, that's kind of how it seems to be applied Yeah. In popular circles.
[03:30:20] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean but but I know people put stock in that. I I know because I've done hippie shit, and people have, you know, done my chart over the years and shit like that. So I do know. I just I don't I I put about as much stock into that as I do the actual stock market, and I don't have, enough capital for it.
[03:30:48] Unknown:
Yeah. I was gonna bring up this USD 1. Have you heard about this yet? Trump and his people have launched a stable coin.
[03:30:59] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[03:31:01] Unknown:
So it's not the CBDC. It's, stable coin, meaning one coin is $1. I mean, that's what makes it stable. Try to tie it to peg it to a US dollar. Isn't there already a USDC coin? There is a USDC coin, and there is a Tether coin. So those are two competing.
[03:31:27] Unknown:
No. They're gonna merge.
[03:31:29] Unknown:
You think all three of them are gonna become?
[03:31:32] Unknown:
So okay. Tether is gonna merge with USDC, but the whole bait and switch, because we're in the bait and switch administration Mhmm. The bait and switch is you're going to have seemingly competing coins and tokens that all process as a CBDC on the back end. Because, Swift, the international payment processor, has already built out the infrastructure to handle CBDC, not individual coins and tokens. So it doesn't matter what is forward facing on the back end and on the processing end. It's all going to be a central bank digital currency. And you see, you know, Trump and his kids all getting on board with various meme coins and stuff like that. There was Trump coin and Melania coin and, all of this nonsense.
And then they rug pulled it, like, immediately. Immediately, the Hawkgua girl lasted longer with the rug pull.
[03:32:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Very, very frustrating to watch all of this unfold. I agree, Astrid seventeen seventy six.
[03:33:09] Unknown:
Yeah. The there's plenty of parts in California where they accept all forms of green whether it be backs or nugs. Green accepted. And then, yeah, yeah, the real ID thing kicks in May of this year. Supposedly, they've kicked it down the road every year for a number of years. So There are people
[03:33:42] Unknown:
who opted in immediately, and they'll probably be privileged passengers with the real ID. Everyone else will be second, third class citizens without it.
[03:33:55] Unknown:
You know?
[03:33:58] Unknown:
Like, at Disney Fast Pass, you get to go to line faster. You you're playing. You're participating. Preferential
[03:34:08] Unknown:
treatment. No coin. That's great. That's great. Shit. Why hasn't anybody done that yet? It's made of freaking NFT of a big, beautiful bud. Called it nug coin. That's a moneymaker. Michael, go fucking go forth and prosper with that. Do that.
[03:34:38] Unknown:
Are we gonna see a Kushner coin?
[03:34:42] Unknown:
The that's called real estate in Gaza. That's the the Kushner coin. Real estate development projects in otherwise rubbleized neighborhoods. Soon as they can import all that Thai slave labor to clear it out and then rebuild it. Because as we all know, Jews historically very anti carpenter.
[03:35:16] Unknown:
Yeah. We talked a little bit about that while you were away.
[03:35:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Very anti carpenter. The last one they found, they nailed you across. So ever since then, it's been Thai slave labor.
[03:35:36] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:35:37] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:35:39] Unknown:
The Pharisees, the Sadducees, and the Nazarites. Kinda got some notes here. A cock strong Samson on the no fap.
[03:35:51] Unknown:
There's no fapping.
[03:35:53] Unknown:
Make it happen, Michael. Make it happen, and then just, you know, drop, a hundred grand on all of us when you become a crypto billionaire.
[03:36:07] Unknown:
Hundred thousand computer coins.
[03:36:11] Unknown:
Right. Crypto shekels. We love the crypto shekels. We do. What the fuck? Oh, come on. Pay attention.
[03:36:41] Unknown:
Thanks to all of our chatters tonight. Didn't quite have a eye on rocks in here. Let's see.
[03:36:54] Unknown:
Rockfin shot was pretty pretty dead.
[03:36:57] Unknown:
See, Astrid seven seventy six. Any news or some chatters earlier? You know, I don't know. I haven't haven't made it a Rumble account. I put the Rumble app on my phone and saw there was a David Ike live interview stream. So I clicked on that for a while this afternoon, but there was a lot of advertisements on the app. So I can understand the hesitancy to not wanna sign up for Rumble and, you know, verify with a telephone number.
[03:37:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I I gotta I gotta bounce, gentlemen. I don't know about you.
[03:37:42] Unknown:
Yeah. No. We're, way overtime.
[03:37:45] Unknown:
Yep. We gave him we gave him some extra minutes For sure. On the stream, if we run short next week, that's okay.
[03:37:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Three and a half hours. And I I will I will make sure that everything's set up next week. I'll just be driving.
[03:38:00] Unknown:
Sure. Good. Good. Good. Alright, guys. Well, we'll probably Marcus and I will probably go over some, Chase Haggard's videos. Another one of his debates, we went through one privately.
[03:38:15] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[03:38:21] Unknown:
Alright, kids. Well, y'all be good or be good at it or however that works.
[03:38:31] Unknown:
Behave yourself.
[03:38:32] Unknown:
See you next Tuesday.
Discussion on JFK Documents and Executive Orders
Guest Introduction: Celebrated Author GLO
The Importance of Physical Books in Preserving Ideas
Men's Labor Capacity and Intellectual Output
Deplatforming and the Importance of Books
Future Predictions: Central Bank Digital Currency
Identity Manipulation and Media Influence
Food as a Cultural Argument
Expanding Networks and Cross-Pollination of Ideas
Encouraging Social Interaction Among Men
The Need for Hero's Journey Literature
Economic Challenges and Male Identity
Potential for War and Male Conscription
Globalist Agendas and Potential Conflicts
The Role of Elders and Selling Out
Male Suicide Rates and Mental Health
Orthodox Christianity and Identity Seeking
Jewish Influence and Historical Context
Navigating Identity and Religious Influence
Occult Practices and Cultural Rituals
Psychoanalysis and Therapy for Men
Sexual Energy and Spiritual Warfare
Petrochemical Drugs and Spirituality
Red Pill Community and Internal Conflicts
Publishing Books as a Form of Resistance
