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The gang dissects a super secret gnostic cult and its super strict NDA (no questions allowed?!). It's not NDA, it's the members agreeing with everything the cult leader says. Don't live in his yurt!

Euro-vision sacral-ization

🎧✨ Why You Gotta Listen to 35 RN! ✨🎧
This episode’s got: 

• 🤯 Mind-bending debates (Holocaust at what cost?!). 
• 😆 Hilarious roasts (Marty’s 3AM rage emails = yikes). 
• 🐕 Dog supremacy (cats = gut-dropping monsters). 

(00:00:09) Introduction and Opening Remarks

(00:01:36) Discussion on Aryanism

(00:03:35) Resacralizing Christianity

(00:05:04) Humor and Cultural References

(00:08:12) Animal Stories and Anecdotes

(00:10:37) Venn Diagrams and Social Constructs

(00:14:07) Debate on Social Definitions

(00:18:22) Music and Cultural Commentary

(00:28:00) Eurovision and Cultural Influence

(00:36:46) Political Commentary and Criticism

(00:44:21) Cultural Identity and Social Dynamics

(00:54:06) Debate on Eurovision as a Religious Contest

(01:10:17) Controversial Historical Narratives

(01:27:56) Survivor Definitions and Historical Context

(01:46:31) Critique of Gnostic Church and Academy

(02:15:48) Closing Remarks and Reflections

"This podcast survived 3AM rage emails so you don't have to"
"Where cult leaders fear to tread (but Marty Leeds rage-emails)"
"Theology so spicy even the Flying Squirrels took notes"

• "Arianism? More Like Aryan-isn't-him!" 🤡✝️
• "Holy Trinity or Holy Sh*%#? Nicaea's Messiest Church Fight" ⛪💥
• "Marty's Mystery School: Where Questions Go to Die (Like My Will to Live)" 🕵️♂️⚰️
• "Eurovision = Euro-occultism (Proof: Poland's Vitruvian Twink)" 🏳️‍🌈🔺
• "From Ricola to Recallas: Switzerland's Wildest Exports" 🇨🇭🤮
• "NDA More Like N-DUH" 🤦‍♂️📜
• "Gnosticism Defined: How to Gaslight 101" 💡🤥
• "Flying Squirrels: God's Forgotten Angels or Just Rats With Capes?" 🐿️👼
• "Banding Together Like White Dudes in Magic: Impossible?" 🃏🙅♂️
• "Doja Cat vs. Dojo Cat: The Feline Gender Wars" 🐈⚔️
• "Resacralizing Arty Bleeds' Face (Let He Who Oinks Dine With Swine)" 🐷🍷
• "Cats Bring Guts, Dogs Bring Glory - A Theological Debate" 🐕🆚🐈⬛

Bonus taglines:
"This podcast survived 3AM rage emails so you don't have to"
"Where cult leaders fear to tread (but Marty Leeds rage-emails)"
"Theology so spicy even the Flying Squirrels took notes"




Get ready for a wild ride, cuties! This episode is packed with all the fun and fabulousness you can handle! 🌈💖

Join us as Kamela Harris spills the tea on the cultural significance of Venn diagrams and how they help us navigate the complex world of social issues! 🌀✨

🎉 Episode Highlights:
🎤 Eurovision Debate: The crew dives into whether Eurovision is a "religious song contest" with some wild takes on culture, symbolism, and politics! ! 🔥
⛪ Arianism Explained: (spoiler alert: Jesus wasn’t always seen as a White Dude!).
🕵️‍♂️ Cult or Club?: The gang dissects Marty Leeds’ Gnostic Academy and its super strict NDA (no questions allowed?! Members kicked out on a whim).
💥 Survivor Gate: A heated convo on who gets to claim "survivor" status (bullet wounds required?).
🚨 White Power Bandwagons: Ben drops truth bombs on why some movements are super sketchy AF!

💬 Key Quotes:
"Eurovision is a religious song contest because vibes are dogma now."
"If you can’t question it, it’s a cult. Period."
"Switzerland invented LSD and the internet… probably."

So grab your headphones and get ready to giggle, gasp, and get your mind blown! This episode is a must-listen! 💖✨

(•̀ᴗ•́)و ̑̑ Let’s go! 🎉🎧

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**🔥 1. "Eurovision is a RELIGIOUS Contest? (Theology Debate Gets Wild)"
 📌 Description:
 Is Eurovision secretly a religious battle? 🎤🔥 We break down Croatia’s 2017 entry, occult symbolism, and why Europe’s biggest song contest might be a holy war. Plus: Why Israel gets to compete (DNA test required?). #Eurovision #Religion #Debate
**🤯 2. "This Cult BANS Questions? (Exposing the Gnostic Academy’s NDA)"
 📌 Description:
 Would you sign an NDA just to join a "church"? ⛔📜 We dissect Marty Leeds’ Gnostic Academy—where asking questions gets you banned, and loyalty is mandatory. #Cult #NDA #Gnosticism
**🎙️ 3. "Arianism vs. Trinity: The Christian Debate That Split the Church"
 📌 Description:
 Was Jesus created by God? 🤯 Early Christians fought over Arianism—the belief that Christ wasn’t eternal. We explain why the Council of Nicaea declared it heresy. #Christianity #Theology #History
**😡 4. "Marty Leeds’ 3AM Rage Emails (Why Can’t We Question This?)"
 📌 Description:
 "YOU’RE A SWINE HEATHEN!" 🐖✝️ We read the unhinged 3AM emails from Marty Leeds after questioning his cult’s beliefs. #Drama #CultLeader #Exposed
**🐕 5. "Cats vs. Dogs: The Ultimate Debate (Guts Included)"
 📌 Description:
 Cats leave half-eaten rats on your bench… dogs just vibe. 🐈🆚🐕 Who’s the superior pet? Our heated debate includes flying squirrels, farm life, and nasty surprises. #Pets #Debate #Humor
**🎶 6. "Flying Squirrels & Eurovision: This Podcast Went OFF the Rails"
 📌 Description:
 From Humboldt flying squirrels 🐿️ to Poland’s Vitruvian Man performance—this episode has EVERYTHING. Why is Eurovision so unhinged? #Eurovision #WeirdFacts #Podcast
**🃏 7. "Why White Dudes Can’t Band Together (Magic: The Gathering Proof)"
 📌 Description:
 Even in Magic: The Gathering, white players struggle to "band together." 🃏😂 We break down historical (and hilarious) reasons why teamwork fails. #Gaming #History #Humor
**💀 8. "The Cost of Hollow: Why the Narrative Still Controls Us"
 📌 Description:
 6 million? 9 million? The real number doesn’t matter—what matters is who controls the story. We debate censorship, guilt, and historical narratives. #History #Conspiracy #Debate
**⚔️ 9. "Resacralizing Christianity? Pagans & Christians CLASH"
 📌 Description:
 Can Christianity be "resacralized"? ✝️🌿 Pagans and Christians debate Valhalla, the Trinity, and why Marty Leeds got Norse mythology dead wrong. #Religion #Paganism #Debate
**🔮 10. "From Kanye to Kabbalah: How Symbols Rule the World"
 📌 Description:
 Kanye’s "Yittler" album 🎤 vs. Kabbalah’s sacred math—why do symbols hold so much power? We decode hidden meanings in music, religion, and cults. #Symbolism #Kanye #Occult
**🎯
 "They tried to silence us… but the dog-faced dudes DELIBERATE." 🐕🎙️

(00:00:09) Introduction and Opening Remarks

(00:01:36) Discussion on Aryanism

(00:03:35) Resacralizing Christianity

(00:05:04) Humor and Cultural References

(00:08:12) Animal Stories and Anecdotes

(00:10:37) Venn Diagrams and Social Constructs

(00:14:07) Debate on Social Definitions

(00:18:22) Music and Cultural Commentary

(00:28:00) Eurovision and Cultural Influence

(00:36:46) Political Commentary and Criticism

(00:44:21) Cultural Identity and Social Dynamics

(00:54:06) Debate on Eurovision as a Religious Contest

(01:10:17) Controversial Historical Narratives

(01:27:56) Survivor Definitions and Historical Context

(01:46:31) Critique of Gnostic Church and Academy

(02:15:48) Closing Remarks and Reflections

🎧 Why You Gotta Listen RN
This episode’s got: 

• 🤯 Mind-bending debates (Vitruvian Man at Eurovision?!). 
• 😆 Hilarious roasts (Marty’s 3AM rage emails = yikes). 
• 🐕 Dog supremacy (cats = gut-dropping monsters). 

Kamela Harris explains cultural significance of Venn diagrams and how they can be used to understand complex social issues.

Arianism, Art, and the Eurovision Debate
Unpacking Arianism and the Trinity
Eurovision: A Cultural or Religious Contest?
Cats, Dogs, and the Art of Delivery
The Intersection of History, Culture, and Critical Thinking


In this episode, we delve into a variety of topics, starting with a humorous take on the concept of delivery and how art functions to remind different people of different things. We then transition into a discussion about Arianism, a theological doctrine from early Christianity, and its implications on the concept of the Trinity. The conversation takes a lighthearted turn as we explore the dynamics of cats and dogs, and the peculiar behaviors of pets, including a humorous anecdote about a cat bringing a squirrel into the house. The discussion also touches on the cultural significance of Venn diagrams and how they can be used to understand complex social issues.

We then shift gears to discuss the Eurovision Song Contest, debating whether it can be considered a religious event due to its cultural impact and the ideologies presented in the performances. The conversation also covers the controversy surrounding certain public figures and the nature of cult-like organizations, with a focus on the importance of critical thinking and open dialogue. The episode concludes with a reflection on the historical narratives that shape our understanding of past events and the importance of questioning established stories to gain a deeper understanding of history.

🔥 Deliberating Dog-Faced Dudes Podcast Recap: 

A Wild Ride Through Eurovision, Cults & More 🔥

🎙️ Episode Highlights

• Eurovision Debate 🎤: The crew argues whether Eurovision is a "religious song contest" with wild takes on culture, symbolism, and politics. Croatia’s 2017 entry got roasted! 
• Arianism Explained ⛪: Deep dive into early Christian theology (spoiler: Jesus wasn’t always considered a White Dude). 
• Cult or Club? 🕵️♂️: The gang dissects Marty Leeds’ Gnostic Academy and its super strict NDA (no questions allowed?!). 
• Survivor Gate 💥: Heated convo on who gets to claim "survivor of school shooting" status (bullet wounds required?). 
• White Power Bandwagons 🚨: Ben drops truth bombs on why some movements are sketchy AF. 

💬 Key Quotes

"Eurovision is a religious song contest because vibes are dogma now." 
"If you can’t question it, it’s a cult. Period."
"Switzerland invented LSD and the internet… probably." 

 ︻╦╤─

🔥 Deliberating Dog-Faced Dudes Podcast Recap: A Wild Ride Through Eurovision, Cults & More 🔥

🎙️ Episode Highlights

• Eurovision Debate 🎤: The crew argues whether Eurovision is a "religious song contest" with wild takes on culture, symbolism, and politics. Croatia’s 2017 entry got roasted! 
• Arianism Explained ⛪: Deep dive into early Christian theology (spoiler: Jesus wasn’t always considered equal to God). 
• Cult or Club? 🕵️♂️: The gang dissects Marty Leeds’ Gnostic Academy and its super strict NDA (no questions allowed?!). 
• Survivor Gate 💥: Heated convo on who gets to claim "survivor" status (bullet wounds required?). 
• White Power Bandwagons 🚨: Ben drops truth bombs on why some movements are sketchy AF. 

💬 Key Quotes

"Eurovision is a religious song contest because vibes are dogma now." – Allen Marcus
"If you can’t question it, it’s a cult. Period." – Baldson ???
"Switzerland invented LSD and the internet… probably." – Steve 

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[00:00:10] Unknown:

Delivery.   Delivering.  

[00:00:22] Unknown:

Delivering dogfish.   Delivering   dogfish. Delivering dogfish. I do.   Nine, thirty   Four,   three, two, one. Fight.  

[00:00:58] Steve :

That always reminds me of the,   the end of the boondocks   cartoon intro.  

[00:01:07] allen marcus:

Art that's how art functions. It reminds   a different person of of a different thing, and no one can agree what the actual source of the idea is from.   And that's kinda what I wanna talk about tonight. It's Tuesday, 05/13/2025   in the year of our Lord. Is that anno domini? Is that what that stands for?  

[00:01:29] Unknown:

Year of our lord. Yeah. Anno  

[00:01:32] allen marcus:

domini. I think that's Latin.  

[00:01:34] Unknown:

Anal domini?  

[00:01:36] allen marcus:

There's a there's a controversy on the Internet that I wanna clear up a little bit.   It's about the topic of   Aryanism.  

[00:01:46] Steve :

I'm   really sitting in dire Aryanism?  

[00:01:50] Unknown:

I have not,   in my lifetime  

[00:01:54] allen marcus:

seen the white war drum beat Sure. Sure. So what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what   So that might help clarify   and isolate this very specific topic.  

Arianism. We'll say it again. Arianism.   It's an ism.   We'll talk about some isms tonight.   Do you know the definition of Arianism?   That's a yes or no question.   Okay. I'll take that as a no. So I'll read you the definition of Arianism. We were just waiting for you to read the definition anyway. Yes. Arianism is a theological   doctrine that emerged in early Christianity   primarily associated with the teachings of Arius.   Does that clear that up for you guys? Alright.  

[00:02:46] Unknown:

Who the fuck is Arius and what?  

[00:02:49] allen marcus:

Arius, is a Christian priest from Alexandria.   He asserts that Jesus Christ, the son of God, is not co eternal with God the father and was created by the father thus being subordinate.  

[00:03:03] Unknown:

Anti Trinitarian?  

[00:03:05] allen marcus:

This this is Arianism.  

[00:03:07] Unknown:

So Arian   this this Arianism is a ant is a non Trinitarian   version of Christianity.  

[00:03:17] allen marcus:

It was a significant controversy  

[00:03:19] Unknown:

in the early church. Because, obviously, if Jesus if their Jesus character,   is not   somehow one with the   with the God character,   then that can't be a trinity. Right?  

[00:03:35] allen marcus:

It's too early to agree or disagree with you. I just wanna state my purpose tonight is to resacralize   Christianity.   So we're gonna begin that tonight by talking about the first ecumenical council of Nicaea   happened in March   in the year of our lord.   So that condemned the doctrine and affirmed the belief in the Trinity. Does this answer your question? The father, son, and holy spirit. Three persons, one substance. That's the Trinity.  

[00:04:05] Unknown:

That's that passed down from the council of Nicaea?  

[00:04:10] allen marcus:

That's where they discussed it. Yes. The the Arian controversy.   So this establishes the orthodox view of the nature of Christ. Therefore,   orthodoxy   is Arianism   is  

[00:04:27] Unknown:

dot dot Hold on, though. Wouldn't orthodoxy   have to not be? Because don't they aren't they Trinitarians?  

[00:04:35] allen marcus:

Okay. So I understand, and I'm gonna diagnose the problem tonight.   Okay. You're hearing words I'm saying,   attributing meaning to them, and I just want you to feel good about what I'm saying.   I just want you to like me for saying smart things.  

[00:04:53] Unknown:

Do you have do you happen to have a nondisclosure   agreement and maybe   a a pre   done PDF to join a cult? Because that's the only way you get those kind of treatments. It's it's not it's not a cult. It's a fellowship  

[00:05:09] Steve :

bin.  

[00:05:11] Unknown:

Right. Right.   That's my bad. That's my bad. I I, you know, I I'm I'm old. I'm not down with the new terminologies with everything. I don't know what, like, a yeet is and things like that. I I don't even know what these things are, so this is my bad.  

[00:05:27] allen marcus:

Right. A yeet, a skeet, a yurt,   a yogurt.  

[00:05:31] Unknown:

Like, I think I think a yurt before for sure. I I think that about half of the things that you guys don't even realize   off air, Marcus and I spend hours talking to each other. And about half of that, I'm not sure if he's just making shit up.   Like,   he's got all kinds of things like PewDiePie and shit like that, and I'm just, like, looking at him.   Yeah. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. I I thought that that,   who's the chick that sings the song that I thought was fake for the longest time?   Wow, man. Doja Cat. Doja Cat. Okay. Yeah. Doja Cat. I thought he was making that shit up the whole time, and I thought it was just like a a Marcus meme thing. And then and then Yeah. Yeah. So Doja  

[00:06:14] allen marcus:

implies female.   Dojo implies male. Cat is already sort of associated   with femininity. And with tonight, we want to   attack all the cat lovers because we are dog lovers here, and that's  

[00:06:26] Unknown:

that's basically what we're about. So ignore all the cats that will be crawling all over me on that. We we defend dogs and dog owners.  

[00:06:36] allen marcus:

Yes. Yeah. So just Dogs are the superior animal.  

[00:06:41] Unknown:

They don't eat many mice, though, and I tell you what, you can't really have a farm with all them damn mice running around. That's fair. That's fair.  

[00:06:50] allen marcus:

They say you are what you eat, and if you eat a lot of mice, then you're just a mo mouse eater, and then that's just you you essentially a rat at that point.  

[00:06:58] Unknown:

Yeah. That's okay. I like it. Okay. And, again, that's That's when they leave the guts. They left a pile of guts right here next to the door that we had to walk by for, like, a whole day before they finished it off. I'm like, you nasty sons of bitches.   Don't don't we don't need to see your animal guts.   Gross.  

[00:07:21] Steve :

They're like, no, dude. We're showing you   Yeah. What we can do because, clearly, you guys are such bad hunters that you can't go out and kill your own mice,   so we gotta bring them up your way.  

[00:07:34] Unknown:

Dude,   my favorite cat left literally half a rat on my bench where I sit up stairs and look out the window. It just left it there, and it was, like, just a half of a rat with, like, guts just spilling out of it. I'm like, ah.   Mhmm.   Yeah. Yeah. You remember that during weaving spiders one time, bro? Fucking,   my favorite cat jumped through the window and brought tried to bring me a squirrel. Well, hey. And, of course, the dogs were very impressed by that, and, oh, man. That was crazy.   I had to mute.   I do know where the mute button is. Okay.  

[00:08:11] Steve :

Okay.  

[00:08:12] allen marcus:

So what is our stance on   squirrels?   I'll also include chipmunks.   And,  

[00:08:20] Unknown:

what side of the thing? Gophers. Gophers. I'll and chipmunks are pretty good. So I I I do like them. I've heard them sing before. They're they're pretty good.   Squirrels don't bother me.   Actually, my cats,   couple weeks ago, I should've taken a video of it, but I didn't really realize what it was.   I did not realize here in Humboldt, they have flying squirrels.  

[00:08:44] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[00:08:45] Unknown:

And, yeah, it's it's it's even called the Humboldt flying squirrel.   And I thought it was just a weird rat or mole or something, and the cats were all kinda surrounding it, staring at it, like, what is what is this? And they hadn't started attacking it yet.   I walked over because now I'm curious too. And so I walk over to see what it is, and I'm like, what the fuck is this? These are heavenly messengers. These are the angels. Eyes.   Right. Like, really cool looking. Really   wings. No. It didn't have wings. It's like, under its armpits, it had, like,  

[00:09:22] allen marcus:

a flap under the They move through the air. They're like winged   creatures. You know, how humans grow wings and become angels.   These are the angels   of   the groundhog,   chipmunks,   the squirrel.   Right? So tonight, I'm just gonna be drawing a lot of mental  

[00:09:40] Unknown:

black eyes?  

[00:09:42] allen marcus:

Yeah. I'm just gonna be drawing a lot of mental   diagrams in your minds tonight, a lot of Venn diagrams.   This is where the trinity comes in where you have a circle, and then you have two other circles. And you can draw these three circles   so that the three circles inter intersect with each other, and the point where all three circles intersect with each other is right where we are meeting tonight.   Yeah. Because we are ourselves  

[00:10:07] Unknown:

the trinity. If any of you understood that,   you belong here,   you should probably be speaking.  

[00:10:16] allen marcus:

So so Steve, Balderson, Alan Marcus, we are the trinity, and our thoughts merge together. And in the middle of our thoughts is the most correct way of thinking.   Yeah.   And just letting you guys know, if you disagree with that,   compound thought that we formed tonight,   you will be excremed from all future chats and   IRL hangouts. That's in person hangouts. If you're not on good terms with the dudes, as we call ourselves, we are the trinity of the dudes. We are the leaders of this group.  

[00:10:52] Steve :

If,   if you need a further tutorial   for Venn diagrams,   allow,   the world's most brilliant woman and best explainer of things   to,  

[00:11:04] allen marcus:

to elucidate Diagrams. Such a camel?  

[00:11:07] Unknown:

Right. And then let's just see where they overlap. You will not be surprised because I have constructed a Venn diagram on this. Remember those three circles, how they overlap? I love Venn diagrams. So   I just do whenever you're dealing with conflict, pull out a Venn diagram. Right? And so, you know, the three circles.   And so I so I asked my team. Right? They're He's like a great Venn diagram   of it all. He sees that there are those circles,   and maybe people seem that they're a little different. They live in different parts of the country. They may be different age or different race. But that area in the middle, that overlap and I asked my team to do a Venn diagram of where these attacks are happening.   So voting rights,   women's reproductive rights, LGBTQ   rights.  

And, of course, there was a huge intersection.   You know, I asked my team to do a Venn diagram for me of   where we are seeing attacks and who are the attacks   against and the similarity. And When you look at a diagram   of the,   it just a Venn diagram in that regard, it it tells a a real tale.  

[00:12:12] allen marcus:

Squirrels also have tails larger than chipmunks.   And I think the speaker has a speech impediment.   I think we need to get through some speech therapy. She kept saying called vodka.   She said   vodka vodka can cause slurred speech. Don't wear in the vodka.   Were you guys saying v with a v with in the van, then then then then, like, with a v sound?  

[00:12:40] Steve :

Yeah.  

[00:12:41] allen marcus:

I think she was talking about   men diagrams. It was man who first combined the three circles together into the trinity.  

[00:12:49] Steve :

This is In Willie Brown's office. This is orthodox.  

[00:12:53] allen marcus:

This is Christian. This is   true.   These are men diagrams, and and in no part of the inner circle are women allowed.   So if you disagree with that  

[00:13:10] Unknown:

Or Eunice.  

[00:13:14] allen marcus:

Okay. I'll write that word down. Eunuch.  

[00:13:16] Unknown:

Eunuch. K.  

[00:13:18] Steve :

I'm just trying to The guy who hosts the Young Turks. Right?  

[00:13:23] Unknown:

Yeah.   Oh, man.  

[00:13:26] Steve :

What? Jank Unick?  

[00:13:28] allen marcus:

Jank  

[00:13:30] Steve :

Unick. Jank Unick. Jank Unick.  

[00:13:34] allen marcus:

So the intersectionality   is the attack vector   of   our debate   platform. This is where we find the intersectionality,   and we attack the weakness right in the middle, right in the soft part of the personality of the ego. So there's id,   superego, and ego.   And it seems  

[00:13:57] Unknown:

A dude is a straight guy who lets gays have hoes way with them so he can get access to their hot girlfriends.  

[00:14:07] allen marcus:

Okay. That's the beta beta orbiter concept, I think. And  

[00:14:12] Steve :

I'm not I'm not sure   what handbook you're reading from   Great White Pope,   but,   it's   it's a wrong one.   Yeah.   Yeah.   But, yeah, hey. Have fun.  

[00:14:33] Unknown:

We will be talking about Is that supposed to be his way   or hoe's way? Because when you if it's hoe's,   I don't even understand. Like, gays have hoe's way with them. It Right.   What do hoe's and gays have to do with each other? I don't understand.  

[00:14:48] Steve :

Maybe the gays have their way with them?  

[00:14:53] Unknown:

'Sup, droid? 'Sup, Tony Corio?  

[00:14:56] Steve :

Get access to to the gays?   The gays   moment. Hot girlfriends. Is that what you're saying?  

[00:15:05] allen marcus:

Dudes, we need not lose our cool in this moment. This is a teach moment. I'm I'm not. I'm not. I I do I do understand where he's coming from with the whole,  

[00:15:15] Unknown:

the the dude the dude, from The Big Lebowski doing the whole   dudes for Kamala, and those dudes were probably letting chicks peg him and stuff like that. I I get that. I get that. That's not all dudes, though. That's they tried to make that into dudes. At the same time, they ran a whole series of commercials where dudes like,   I can replace an alternator.   I also like an eight inch dildo in my butt.   Like, hey. Yeah. You know?   Like so   Mhmm. And we're just trying to   it it's it's that whole nonsense that women do like a real man. Like, you know what a real man is.   Maybe.  



[00:15:52] allen marcus:

If I could circle back to what I said earlier,   we are the dudes who define   what the word dude means.   So on our debate platform You're a boy. We define what words mean   to everyone listening to us.   So our listeners   understand what our definition   of words are as we define them.  

[00:16:19] Unknown:

And, typically, our definition is the classic definition that you could find.   They made these really neat books. They're called dictionaries.   Different word of the   Yeah. Yeah. You can you can usually find them pretty cheap at garage sales or, yeah, library sales, anything like that. And they have a list of words and and the common definition   for such.   And when you go ahead and use that, then it's makes conversation enter very,   understandable because when I say a thing,   they know the person across from me goes, oh, well, I know what you mean.  

[00:16:58] Steve :

Yeah. Well and and, I mean, you may you may have a point, great white pope, but we don't capitalize. We don't use the all caps   definition.   So We don't show the word. Yeah. We've opted out of that. It's more of a sacred whisper. It's more like Yeah. Dude And this is now the most retarded thing you've said so far.  

[00:17:20] allen marcus:

There there is a sense of reverence when we mention   dude.  

[00:17:25] Steve :

Dude is a social construct. That's dumb. Take a lap.   Go just go take a lap, and we'll see you when you get back.  

[00:17:35] Unknown:

I mean, maybe as a point.   The definition   I don't know.   The the the the the the name's hilarious.  

[00:17:43] Steve :

Like a a socially derived definition of dude?  

[00:17:49] allen marcus:

So some dudes actually do work in construction, and some dudes   are social when they're on a a construction project. We'll talk to other dudes. But mostly, it's just a lot of, here's the blueprints.   We understand our job. We're not doing a whole lot of talking back and forth. We're not gossiping. We're not sitting on a water cooler. Now usually, they're playing,  

[00:18:08] Unknown:

seventies   rock music in the background, and then nobody  

[00:18:16] Unknown:

Yes.   Hurricane.  

[00:18:19] allen marcus:

So this is where we talk about mariachi music.  

[00:18:22] Unknown:

Get your Friday, Floyd, fix.   Fuck. They played Floyd every day for fucking five hours. I'm not I I I'm o I'm OD.  

[00:18:31] Steve :

It's two for Tuesday   here on The Rock, and we're gonna play the same dude Lynyrd Skynyrd songs that we played every Tuesday for the last seventeen   years. Yeah. Alright.  

[00:18:45] allen marcus:

Did your Pink Floyd get a little too soggy after that? It's like keeping the cereal in the mouth too long.  

[00:18:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. If you're a construction worker, you that's you're just inundated.  

[00:18:56] allen marcus:

Right.  

[00:19:01] Unknown:

Bring tacos.   So we are And no no, Tony. There is no fight tonight. We're I don't know. We're we're gonna have to change our description. We're not even a debate channel. Nobody will debate us. Again,   after after last week, I got a a 03:30AM   angry email from Marty Leeds crying. Yeah.  

[00:19:26] allen marcus:

If it if it bleeds, it leads. Right, guys? Yeah.  

[00:19:29] Unknown:

Yeah. Crying around. Like, what the fuck you doing up at 03:30 in the morning living in a yurt mostly off grid, Marty?   Like, what? Why? I I don't   know why you would be up that late.   03:30 in the morning, even city people are in bed usually.   Fucking   lights out here. If I'm sitting up at 03:30 in the morning, what, staring at the fucking glowy stickers on the ceiling?  

[00:19:53] Steve :

Maybe he got up to take an old man pee in the middle of the night, and he was just so consumed with rage   while he was sitting down on the pot   with the door open and the light off   because he didn't wanna hurt his eyeballs.  

[00:20:10] allen marcus:

Okay.  

[00:20:12] Steve :

Alright. Maybe maybe he was so   consumed with rage   while sitting there scrolling   that he was like, I'm going to email Balderson,   and I'm gonna tell him how I really feel.  

[00:20:26] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah. Call me a picky then.  

[00:20:30] Steve :

Alright. Yeah. No. No. No. It was 3 he when he says 03:30,   he means 03:30   Marty's time, which was 01:30.  

[00:20:38] Unknown:

01:30 my time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   Which I was already in bed, so I didn't see that till the next day for sure. Like, I wasn't setting up stewing about Marty being a dumb fuck all night. Like, I was like, oh, weird.  

[00:20:51] allen marcus:

We haven't finalized the document of our disclaimer in our legalese language in which we explain how. Yeah. We haven't finished our not our cult nondisclosure.   Everything   everything is for entertainment purposes only. We are playing characters which are identical   to a legal entity or a straw man that may or may not share the same website address as   alanmarcus.com   or I don't know if you guys got websites or not. I haven't  

[00:21:19] Unknown:

dug Real old real old men roll over and pee in a bottle. Now that's funny. That is hilarious.  

[00:21:25] allen marcus:

So the the purpose of delivering dog pots.  

[00:21:30] Steve :

I got my nighttime   jug right next to the not stand.  

[00:21:35] allen marcus:

The purpose of delivering dog faced dudes is to consume Ricola. That is a purpose.   The greater purpose of   the ministry and the outreach   program of delivering dog faced dudes is not to cancel individuals   or start beefs or personal attacks. I know some of you are vegetarian, so we're not gonna, like, start carrot throwing. We definitely don't want carrot loaves. Why don't do beefs, Marcus?  

[00:22:00] Unknown:

Why are you why are you singling me out with the with the meat references?  

[00:22:04] allen marcus:

Right. He does beef. This is just this is just chatter that happens in the background. I know that there's a way that those little those little carrots, those mini finger carrots, if you squeeze them between your thumb and forefinger and there's enough friction, it launches like a rocket across the cafeteria.   We're not launching carrot attacks. This is not   what we're about. The purpose of deliberating dog phase two is is to deliberate and find   great   ideas. If we deliberate and we find that an idea from a person is a little bit weird, a little bit wonky,   a little bit not according to a consensus   reality of a Wikipedia or a dictionary.  

If it just seems off in some way,   we're gonna bring it up. Okay? And now   with all that said, forget everything I said, and let's turn to Bing, who is our AI producer,   who answers questions for us so we don't have to. I have a slide here to bring up.  

[00:22:58] Unknown:

I didn't even  

[00:23:00] allen marcus:

know. Okay. So this is Bing.   How did we import it? The question, what's wrong with Mark Lee's face?  

[00:23:09] Steve :

So, again,  

[00:23:11] allen marcus:

this is not a personal attack because it's not coming from any of us. This is from a AI. This is from Bing.  

[00:23:18] Unknown:

It's there for so many, many,  

[00:23:20] allen marcus:

many times. So read it out loud.  

[00:23:23] Unknown:

It's there for so many, many, many, many possible reasons.   But usually, the only one,   take a breath,   punch your third eye, give your brown eye a wee little tick.   Christ.   And stretch your Japs eye over a posca   pen postca posca   pen.   It likes that. Trust me. It really does.  

[00:23:49] allen marcus:

Oh, so there's there's the answer, and I know it's gonna take   wiser men than us to To do that. Interpret and decode   the answer to the question.   I think I know what a Posca pen is.   Kind of like a a magic marker or permanent marker.  

[00:24:08] Unknown:

It's weird because it's it because it's really interesting because   I I enjoy,   Irish   heritage and culture and,   IRA music, things like that.   And the Irish are actually known for doing this thing called chiming,   which is it it's like the joker. They'll they'll take two knives and and   jack your cheeks.   Mhmm. And he looks like he's been chipped, and he's Irish. It's hilarious. And I don't know what the reasons   for it. Some people in the chat put that, he did, like, a fifteen minute thing picking at his face, but somebody said he had fiberglass in his face, which   Oh. Yeah. Fiberglass is no joke.  

I'm not gonna joke about that. That's like, my uncle got freaking fiberglass dug into him once. Oh, that was bad.  

[00:24:55] allen marcus:

Nobody likes being in the attic guy. This is a result of pointing a camera at   one's face and recording and streaming and making that visage, that image, that visual   motion picture, the thing that you're putting out to the world, and people are gonna look at that,   and they're gonna react to it. They're gonna respond to it. They're gonna ask questions about it. They're gonna consider what it means and what it doesn't mean. And, again, that's just   part of an open conversation   that happens   through   the process   of being a public figure.  

We were looking at pictures of the new pope and making predictions and judgments as well. I think everyone's doing that. Who the hell is Tory Lane?  

[00:25:45] Unknown:

And why did a Mexican stab her?  

[00:25:47] Steve :

Tory Lanez is   a   rapper   who allegedly   shot   Megan Thee Stallion in the foot   and went to prison over it.   And he's   caught up in some bullshit   and got stabbed up by,   an   alleged,   MS thirteen member   while in prison.  

[00:26:18] Unknown:

Who is the the Stallion person? So Megan the Stallion  

[00:26:23] Steve :

Megan the Stallion is a  

[00:26:25] allen marcus:

I I know the answer. She's the she she's the fattest ass in the You guys hand up first,  

[00:26:32] Unknown:

Steve.  

[00:26:33] allen marcus:

Megan the Stallion is the fattest ass in the rap game today.  

[00:26:38] Unknown:

It's not that chick with that with the Lyft driver  

[00:26:43] Steve :

that couldn't get in the Lyft. No. That's a different fat ass, but that's a very good point.   It's a very good point. I think Ben has,   laid to rest the myth that   Meg   has the fattest ass in hip hop. Clearly, Rotundra   or whatever her name was.  

[00:27:02] allen marcus:

Rotundra. Okay.  

[00:27:05] Unknown:

That was a fat ass. Fuck. You see that one clip of the video of her sitting on the back of, like, a tower or something? And, like, that thing was looking like a single seat. You're like, fuck.  

[00:27:16] allen marcus:

Okay. Alright. This is this is a segue. This   is this is a a scooter that we ride from one topic to another.   Now we're in the realm of music. And in the realm of music, we get into the realm of culture   and the origin of music, which happened in, I think, 1956   in Switzerland,   and they called it Eurovision.   So the vision of Europe   would be   music   in art and culture.  

[00:27:47] Unknown:

Did they mean Norwegian death metal in the forest?  

[00:27:51] allen marcus:

That is included in the category of song.  

[00:27:57] Steve :

Not much Gor Gorath at Eurovision, though.  

[00:28:01] allen marcus:

Well, that's that's what we're going to deliberate on tonight is the   the sounds that we hear in Eurovision.   Okay? There's a idea of a vibe soundtrack where the music sounds a certain way, you feel a certain way, and you dance a certain way to it.   Mhmm. Do you think the vibes are off this year at at Eurovision so far?  

[00:28:24] Steve :

Haven't seen anything from Eurovision yet this year. I haven't. The last couple of years, it's either been we're rigging   the whole thing for Ukraine or we're rigging the whole thing for Israel.  

[00:28:37] Unknown:

Yeah. Marcus took us down that road last year.  

[00:28:40] Steve :

And it's pretty wild how Israel   gets to   compete   in Eurovision,   unless you make them take a DNA test. Then it makes more sense. I don't know. I I appreciate,  

[00:28:56] allen marcus:

Steve, you   allowing our listening audience to hear what the headline is. We're not bearing the headline. We're getting directly to the point. The point of your vision Mark is we don't. Correct. We we we share the information. We don't we don't make you wait, sit through a three hour lecture, and then you sell more questions. The answer is   the Moroccan Oil Company.   It's a hair product. You put it in your hair. It's a beauty product. The number one sponsor   of Eurovision   is owned by   Israeli citizens, I think business people, essentially.   Mhmm.  

Okay. So then the largest sponsor of the song contest,   in some way,   will determine what is brand safe content for the contest. So the culture that is allowed to be   culturally   spread   okay. If we have a petri dish of culture,   if   Eurovision   song contest is a petri dish of culture,   and the culture we want to   allow to grow and flourish in our petri dish will be in alignment with brand   values   according to the biggest sponsor   and the politics   of the larger sponsor.  

[00:30:14] Steve :

Okay.  

[00:30:16] Unknown:

Okay.   Just direct message me or send me an email.   And,   we currently have,   comfort cream,   and she has an a different comfort cream that she's,   calling it pepper and mint where she took cayenne from, the garden that we grew   and menthol, so it kinda gives it kind of an icy hot feeling. It's very nice.   And,   her vapor soothe, which is like a   Vicks type thing,   mentholatum   type thing that clears up your chest,   and then,   burn vanish.   And,   yeah, I just sent a direct message.   She got four ounce and eight ounce. Is that what it is it is now? Two ounces, four ounces.   But,   yeah, this is an this is a nice season for the burn banish.  

We usually do a lot of the vapor soothe obviously in the fall when everybody's starting to get chest congestion and whatnot.   And then obviously, the comfort cream's handy right now. Oh my goodness. What do we got going on here? This is Poland's entry to Eurovision.  

[00:31:29] allen marcus:

Probably won't be able to hear any sound samples as this is an ongoing contest, and   the protection in your property rights are   very,  

[00:31:41] Steve :

oh, I can't I can't do this with volume?  

[00:31:44] allen marcus:

The Mickey Mouse ears are always listening, and, unfortunately, our   audience cannot have the same Mickey Mouse ears to listen to the same thing we do. We can, however, describe what we're   seeing. So this will be the vibe of the entry.  

[00:31:59] Unknown:

Why does this look   like the dude from the jigsaw   movies?  

[00:32:04] Steve :

Right. It's like Marilyn Manson fucked Laura Loomer.  

[00:32:08] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:32:09] allen marcus:

Yeah.   This song, I believe, has a good deal with you, baby. Well, this is about dragons. This is about   Gaia. This is about mother Earth.  

[00:32:20] Steve :

Well, clearly.  

[00:32:24] allen marcus:

So what religion   worships mother Earth   and recognizes dragons?  

[00:32:30] Unknown:

Did James True make that dragon?  

[00:32:32] allen marcus:

I I think this might be the religion of   founder George r r Martin and his holy scriptural text, the Game of Thrones. Right. There's a great dead dragon, like, hidden back there somewhere.  

[00:32:45] Unknown:

Fuck that dude. He can't even finish his own holy book. He's a douche.   Fuck that guy.  

[00:32:51] allen marcus:

Gaja.  

[00:32:53] Unknown:

I I believe you pronounce gaha. For people that enjoy reading,   there is a really weird Hang on a tick.   Thing where   a bunch of authors for, like, over ten years now have all   there's a shocking number of series that I read.   Game of Thrones obviously being one where that one's been unfinished. I think that's, like, fifteen, eighteen years or some shit waiting for the neck the   next installment.   There's Patrick Rothafis.   He's got this, Kingkiller,   what is it called? Kingkiller Chronicles.   Yeah. The   donors are,   door of stone.   They've been waiting for that for, like, fifteen years. The,   Scott Lynch,   he writes the gentleman bastard series.  

Fantastic   books.   Been waiting for the the night the book that's supposed to have come out, like, over ten years ago. It's just over and over. You're like, what is going on with that?   How do so many authors   are just a decade behind on book on a book. What what is the deal with that?  

[00:34:07] allen marcus:

The the culture has moved to a slow   crawl,   and there is not a whole lot of   new   culture.   So   we in our separate fandoms,   whatever our favorite thing is that we have an affinity towards, that we have nostalgic feelings for, and we just love it so much,   there is a slow crawl in the development   of new culture,   new intellectual properties,   and new stories, new characters, new heroes.   Financially,   that's because   there's a large   gamble. You don't know if you're gonna win or lose in creating a new intellectual property, putting money into market it. And when the marketing money goes to spread an idea,   a brand,   a movie, a song, a pop star,   whatever it might be,   the culture   of the fans, the people who are consuming   the music, the movie, the book, the thing,   if they are not   paying forward   with more than time, treasure, and talent, if the if they're not putting in   money to purchase the products   and pay to be a member of the fan club,   then that creator   ceases to continue   creating.  



[00:35:31] Unknown:

You're saying not enough people buying books.  

[00:35:35] allen marcus:

Not enough people   paying attention to the ideas,   falling in love with them, and then telling other people in an evangelical way,   buy this book.   So when the sales numbers are are lower, when the box office receipts of new movies are low,   the people will go and see the Chronicles of Narnia   redone for the third or fourth or fifth time in theaters,   then   people will obviously think, well, Chronicles of Narnia, that's great. Let's make it  

[00:36:15] Unknown:

Steve, you're playing Mexican stuff.  

[00:36:17] Steve :

No. It was Eurovision stuff.  

[00:36:20] allen marcus:

Mariachi   music at what cost?  

[00:36:22] Unknown:

At what cost, gentlemen? That was that that was that Eurovision?  

[00:36:27] Steve :

Yeah. I I'm I'm sorry. I thought   the sound was off   from screen.   Yeah. I was just randomly scrolling through the Eurovision,   like, hashtag   on Twitter.   Mhmm.   Just to see what was was popping up.  

[00:36:47] Unknown:

What does Steve have to say about,   Trump's sudden,   I'm I'm against the Jews. I'm against Israel.   Even though I oh, well,   I'm aware. Well, we wanna hear your, your take on, the why is he   after signing   a hot series   of   crazy   fucking,   executive orders   that was extremely   favorable   and sending them,   more money than what Doe supposedly was send saving   and,   telling them that they can just basically blow up the entire Middle East and it's okay.   Now all of a sudden pretending that,   he is anti Israel and gonna do lots of just stand up to them.  

[00:37:42] Steve :

So,   it's a stand up to   Benjamin   Milikowski   kind of thing.  

[00:37:50] Unknown:

Oh, you don't use his Polish name?   You dead named him, Steve. You dead named him.  

[00:37:57] Steve :

Well, shoot.   Gosh darn it.  

[00:38:01] allen marcus:

I am sure gonna lose sleep over that tonight. That's not very intersectional of you, or or is that extremely intersectional  

[00:38:08] Steve :

of you to say? Maybe it is. Maybe it is. Maybe I'm trying to be ultra inclusive,   especially for our Polish audience, Ben.  

[00:38:18] Ben:

Sure.  

[00:38:20] Unknown:

Should I tell the Lolly and Lina jokes?  

[00:38:23] allen marcus:

Yes. Right? That's that's culture.   That is culture.  

[00:38:27] Steve :

And, yeah, when when,   when he was born in Poland   and then moved to Boston   and went to a very nice private Jewish high school in a Boston,   rich ass neighborhood.   He was Benjamin Milakowski.  

[00:38:45] Unknown:

Yeah. Like that,   that little fat kid that raps.   That Milakowski   like that. Yeah. And they're all the Every   top   Jewish person over there,   if you look up, they changed their name. None of them had a Jewish name. They all had a different name. They're from they're not from Israel. They're not Yeah.  

[00:39:09] Steve :

Yeah. Like, Itamar Ben Gavir.   His name is probably, like, Murray Greenblatt   or something like that.  

[00:39:17] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah. They they they went in and changed all their names.   Netanyahu's name is actually Milakowski.   Him and that little fat kid with the dreads that wraps   that that them two are probably related.   The,   it's absolutely ridiculous.   And then when you see,   it doesn't take rocket scientists to realize that when you set a group of people   above   other people   that   especially when that group's a very   small minority and you give them extreme   special privileges,   the that that's gonna create hostilities. That's that's just one zero one. Like, if you're if you're in a group of kids, the kid that gets the that gets treated the special kid, all the other kids despise that kid. They all tell them how they're the golden child and how they and what a little brat they are and things like that.   So you you take that up to a societal level. It's the same basic concept.  

And and   the thing is is that   as this is happening, they've built up. And and   you can't find this episode,   but Steve years ago asked me what my what I what my prediction was for the future of society.   And I and I flat said this is what's coming.   Like, they're they they did all these queer really weird leftist things hardcore in order to bring about the fascist jackboot.   And look at the way I've never seen them activate. People are, like, actively,   like, yeah. We're Nazis now. Blah blah.   Oh my god.   And and and the weird part is is being in the conspiracy community, you're very aware of things   like the the,   damn it, that the   royal signed that said they're gonna help get the Balfour. The Balfour agreement.  

You realize that that was pre World War one that they were already   they and then when you look at it,   so many of the bad Jews had to be sacrificed   as wheat or as like chaff before the wheat. So that way the good ones could have the promised land returned to them. So in order for this   event to happen,   they had to have a sacrifice. It's in all their holy stuff. Well, this is coming again. They still need more stuff. They still gotta have the return of   their tabernacle or their, Solomon's temple or whatever the hell.   So   you're just going right into their playbook. They purposely set them up   as as, like, the the in their whole sacrifice scenario where they've got the golden lamb or whatever that gets treated so well, and that's the one that's about to get its like,   that that   that whole scenario is already set up. And it's just wild to see people that   knew this information   to still jump on this bandwagon. And I understand   that there's a big draw with it because you're gonna get a lot of followers.  

I've never seen the white power type thing,   in my lifetime take,   take precedence   where dudes were just, like, openly   which, of course, this has all been pushed. If you don't fucking realize that letter agencies   made most of the donations and made the the that lady from the park that call that called little kid the n word word or the other or the other kid that stabbed the kid in the chest, when those two things started virally competing   and they're both crazy,   you know the letter agencies made that happen,   made that go viral,   made this story happen. They're beating that wardrobe.  

And   for people to step right into that,   just wild.   Wild.   You guys know the playbook, and you're still gonna go and just be like, okay. Well,   let's do it.  

[00:43:28] allen marcus:

Not in my head.   Raise what? In a in a in a yes motion in in agreement. What?   That's the idea of vote with your dollars.   This idea of your money goes towards the best idea, the best company.   And I think you're nailing it right on the head. Oh, the best racist.   Putting the dart right into the middle of the   is it a bullpen? A a ball a target. You you're hitting the target right in the center   by stating the I the idea that a GoFundMe account or some sort of financial donation campaign   platform   is going to have a a version of vanilla ice cream over here and a,   chocolate ice cream. And then the the viewers are going to vote on which which idea or which cause   is the most   correct or valuable.  



[00:44:22] Steve :

Sometimes the chocolate ice cream cone pierces the heart of the vanilla ice cream cone   with the tip of the cone.  

[00:44:31] Unknown:

That attract me.  

[00:44:33] Steve :

At Attract Me. So we have half a million dollars in your GoFundMe for that, and   and sometimes the vanilla   ice cream cone calls the chocolate ice cream cone a different word for chocolate.  

[00:44:46] allen marcus:

So vote vote to support your favorite   skin color,   race,   group of people on a GoFundMe campaign. And then after the campaign closes,   the person the individual, the organization with the most money and the funds   will determine where culture   is going, I guess. Is this how we're deciding where culture  

[00:45:08] Steve :

is going? Circle from   Ari Shafir   doing the amazing racist   as a skit in the early YouTube days.  

[00:45:17] Unknown:

In the what's what's   scary about this is once again   and this is just a cultural thing, and if you wanna get bent out about it, that's all fine. White dudes do not band together. It's the thing we don't do. We are the most beastly of all of everybody,   but we don't band together.   That's our deal. We like,   it's something every young man notices during your fighting years because if you had fighting years by the time you get my age, them are done and nothing but pain   and memories.   But,   if you had those, you notice if   if a fight's happening   and say there's Mexican in there, you're gonna get the whole burrito.  

If there's if it's a black guy in there, every dude's gonna jump in there. If it's a white dude, all the other white dudes will go,   You see that fight?   Did you see that shit?   Wow. He getting his ass kicked by, like, four dudes.   Right? Yeah. I mean,   they don't help each other. There's only been   that I can think of two historically,   two times that just white people, period.  

[00:46:25] allen marcus:

Sure.  

[00:46:26] Unknown:

Sure. Banded together.   And one was   Forest   where they   demolished Rome.   Rome never tried to expand again after that. Just   destroyed the whole Roman legions   to a person. Their camp followers, the cook, everybody,   gone. Like and then the great northern invasion. And then that time Marcus got pissed because they took away his recall as.  

[00:46:53] allen marcus:

I'm I'm raising my hand in excitement because I have something to contribute to the conversation   as, I'm I'm not identifying   as a   white person  

[00:47:03] Unknown:

per se. Why are you always talking on Swiss stuff   and and and promoting it? I I like Switzerland. Like, that's the super whitest white. That is pretty wild. That's like rotoing off in the mountains white. And I have the home of central banking, Marcus. Yeah.  

[00:47:19] allen marcus:

Yeah. I I I know it's on the docket. We're gonna talk about we're gonna deliberate further. But in this moment, I wanna just kind of, what do they call it, create a skiff   or, a tan a a secure communication platform where I describe to   the the white guy the Magic the Gathering players amongst our listening audience.   You talked about how white guys don't band together.   This is true. This was seen in the   collectible card game Magic the Gathering, where banding is a keyword ability, and it's just what you'd think it is. So banding allows creatures to attack or block together   as a group. This is known as a band. When creatures,   with a banding attack, all but one creature in the band must have banding, and up to one creature with without banding can also join the band.  

So if you have a a monster   that's gonna attack the other player,   it can band with other monsters   together. So bands are blocked as a group, and the player controlling the banding creatures assigns how combat damage is distributed among the creature in the band.   So when it comes to blocking, only one creature needs to have   banding.   So this is an example of how white guys, when you tell them to band together,   even in Magic the Gathering, they still get confused about the concept of  

[00:48:39] Unknown:

banding. Yeah. We're not good at it. I wish we were doing the whole thing too. Like, I I don't know. Just give me an ax and where's the bad guys, and I'll go deal with this. The the keyword ability was eventually removed from Magic the Gathering playing cards going forward because no one could understand how to band together.   Yeah. That's because that's because that was all nerdy white kids that played that. And they still could not band   together. Yeah. Yeah. We're the worst at it. We're like,   no.   You guys all have a common enemy.   Oh,   Like and that's the end of it for us.  



[00:49:18] allen marcus:

So so I realized that the clock is ticking, and it's my time to make a move in in this this game here. So here is the debate,   prompt I'd like to propose for tonight.   And I already proposed in the group chat, so don't get angry at me. I warned you guys about this. Tonight's debate prompt is   drum roll, please.   Eurovision is a religious song contest,   and I will be on the pro camp for this.   You guys have your positions ready?  

[00:49:52] Unknown:

I I I am I judging the contest?  

[00:49:57] allen marcus:

The the debate prompt is Eurovision is a religious   song contest. I'm taking the affirmative that Eurovision is a religious   song contest.  

[00:50:07] Unknown:

Oh, Karen says that her son's her her son, Karen b, we love you, Karen b.   She says her son's yearbook,   crazy full of racism.   Like, I I totally believe it because, like, if you go on x now,   about   a quarter of the video is in the four four u feed, and I don't know why it would be   be on my four u. I don't watch racist things, and about a quarter of them are   why do why do we even want blacks in our society? And it'll show them, like, you know, like a peaceful, like,   picnic in Switzerland with, you know, kids dancing around, and then some black guy just comes in like,   and steals the picnic basket. You know what? Mhmm. That's not Yeah.  

But it it it's like a bunch of videos like that. And then in the forest ranger comes bumbling through.  

[00:50:58] Steve :

Yeah. Yeah. And then the black dude jumps out and, like,   stuffs the empty picnic basket over his head, runs away   with his adventurous   little buddy.   Yeah. And I I see the I I thought Yogi the bear was a pedophile.  

[00:51:15] Unknown:

Well,   you know, it's I don't know if that word is acceptable anymore.   A Isn't it? PDF file.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I isn't it, minor attracted purse a map? Yeah. They're a map now.  

[00:51:32] Steve :

How come we didn't think he was a Kevin Spacey?  

[00:51:36] Unknown:

How come Kevin Spacey's back?  

[00:51:39] Steve :

Because Hollywood   loves their Kevin Spaceys.  

[00:51:43] Unknown:

Yeah.   They're like, oh, that picture of you sticking your finger in a little kid's butt's okay.   You did your time.  

[00:51:54] Steve :

I have no idea who Lauren   Daigle. Daigle?   Daigle? Daigle?  

[00:52:01] allen marcus:

Oh, she's,   Singer,   Not at Eurovision.  

[00:52:05] Unknown:

Not at Eurovision.   So you got you got him. Marcus is the one that that knew it. Good job.  

[00:52:12] allen marcus:

Okay. So if Amy Grant   Oh, it's Christian singers. Okay. Yeah. Christian singers. So if Amy Grant refused to wear shoes, the next evolution of a Christian singer named Lauren Daigle, she refuses to wear   pain ears.  

[00:52:27] Unknown:

No. Oh, she's she's a 90,  

[00:52:31] Steve :

nipped out for Jesus?  

[00:52:33] allen marcus:

Yes. And surprisingly,   in her music videos without a brassiere   on,   a million views. I wonder   if there's a correlation. Must be talented.   She must have two great big   itty bitty.   Okay. This is the the porridge is just right   size  

[00:52:53] Steve :

of It was like a heavy beard.   The perturbances.   Then?  

[00:52:58] allen marcus:

You know, I'm probably not allowed to talk about perturbances.   I already said, Megan the Saline had the fattest asset, Coachella.   And I stand by that,  

[00:53:10] Unknown:

but then to continue my speech about Oh, she was Well, that's what the other one couldn't get to Coachella because they wouldn't let her get in a Lyft, Marcus.   Insensitive.  

[00:53:20] allen marcus:

Oh, okay. So Lyft is like taxi service.   Yeah. I thought you were talking about, like, a a forklift or That's what she needed. Like a skid steer loader to move on. My friend's Holly.  

[00:53:32] Unknown:

It's Annie d. Mhmm.   She says the war drums and bagpipes.   Yep. If they did start beating the war drums, we'd have action then.   Brian and I hang out with this older guy named Bruce.   And and,   one day, we were in a vehicle together, and I was playing,   Wardruna.   And he's like,   what is this?   It makes me like,   like,   yeah. Yeah.   It's it's white dude tribal music. It's yeah. No. Like   yeah. I get it.  

[00:54:06] allen marcus:

Thank you for returning us to the topic of the prompts of the debate tonight. The debate is   Eurovision is   a religious   song   contest. Now you hear the statement this is my opening statement. You hear the statement and you think, no. You're wrong.   Eurovision is   not religious. They don't allow religious   content. They don't allow  

[00:54:30] Unknown:

Christian singers in the contest. They don't allow I would have had them sing that song contest.  

[00:54:38] allen marcus:

I I don't see any Buddhist music in the song contest.   European   vision   for peace   in the European   countries   through song is the purpose of the Eurovision   song contest.   Now I'm arguing that it is it is indeed a religious   song contest.   Now how can Eurovision be considered religious song contest if the content of the lyrics   and the dance and the presentation of the song entered into the contest   seems to be   not religious,   a religious,   secular without a religious bent? And I would say,   again,   I'll check my notes.   Eurovision is a religious song contest because religion is part of culture,   and the European song contest being a part of arts and entertainment   and culture,   therefore,   must include   religion because religion is part of culture.  

So now we're at the part where I explain  

[00:55:40] Unknown:

how Well, when you guys these guys send you recall as Marcus,  

[00:55:44] allen marcus:

you better respond. I'm talking a lot tonight. I'm gonna need those recall as  

[00:55:50] Unknown:

I have a You got a recall at donor, man.  

[00:55:53] allen marcus:

Allen marcus dot com. It'll connect you with an email address. We'll figure out how to   transport   the   Ricola.  

[00:56:01] Unknown:

Does that require a courier?   Yeah. Per a permit and a courier, like, maybe one of those people with the little suits, like, you know, that Courier and  

[00:56:13] allen marcus:

courier.  

[00:56:16] Unknown:

Like, they come over directly from Switzerland, and then as they show up to your door with your recall as they got, like, a little horn.  

[00:56:26] allen marcus:

It's like   a United States postal service package parcel   inside of a UPS box, inside of a FedEx box, inside of a DHL delivery.  

[00:56:37] Unknown:

It's like a turducken of   mail?  

[00:56:40] Steve :

And if Mark just doesn't answer the door in later, Hosen, they won't give it to him.  

[00:56:45] allen marcus:

This is the Trojan horse of culture. This is the Russian nesting doll inside of the Trojan horse   of culture.  

[00:56:55] Unknown:

Raindrops   on roses   and whiskers   on kitties.   I know you know it, Marcus. We know it. Don't pretend like you don't. Right copper kettle. I don't know what's happening. And warm woolen   mittens.   Brown paper   package is tied up. Me with the  

[00:57:19] Steve :

No. No. No. No. No.   Is promoted witchcraft.   That's   drug use. They were bumping into pictures.   They were having tea parties on the ceiling. They were all high.   That's the devil's work, and we won't have it in this house.  

[00:57:35] allen marcus:

That wasn't that was never a song in Fiddler on the Roof. Okay?  

[00:57:41] Unknown:

Chim chimney, chim chimney, chim chim cherry.   No?  

[00:57:49] Ben:

No.  

[00:57:50] Unknown:

No? Return I don't I don't watch gay plays, but I did Returning to my argument about bedknobs on broomsticks. About religion  

[00:57:58] allen marcus:

in songs and the Eurovision song contest.   Apparently, Croatia in 2017   had a song called my friend by Jacques Hudeck.   The song begins very preachy saying, everything is either a miracle or not. The chorus begins with the line, I pray you see the light and find your way. And another   line suggests that life is a miracle we are, in quotes,   given. It's all very evangelical. Even the visual presentation of the song is particularly offensive when you can consider the guy's abhorrent views on homosexuality   while singing to an inclusive   audience of the Eurovision   song contest.  

So   it is a religious contest.   And some religions   lose.   Some religions lose. Some religions win. This is the nature of the contest.  

[00:58:52] Unknown:

When you're feeling   sad,   I simply remember   my favorite   things.   Then I don't feel   Ricola.  

[00:59:08] Unknown:

No.  

[00:59:11] Steve :

But, yeah, Mary Poppins was all about heavy drug use. You think the spoonful of sugar was? So,  

[00:59:17] allen marcus:

a karaoke singer singing a Disney song will not enter into the Eurovision song contest. The song needs to be original  

[00:59:32] Unknown:

lyrics. Oh, it's all original songs in the Eurovision?  

[00:59:36] allen marcus:

It's not This is this is why I'm telling you it's a culture creation vehicle, and it is indeed a religious   song   contest.  

[00:59:47] Steve :

Who's religion?   I mean, because we saw the one from Poland. Right? And then there's this one.  

[01:00:00] allen marcus:

So it's a,   red red lit scene. Three guys.   They're on a stage.   It's a three piece rock band.  

[01:00:11] Unknown:

Goes,   oh my.  

[01:00:15] allen marcus:

Yes. He's got this falsetto.  

[01:00:19] Unknown:

Why does that remind me of Zelensky, something fierce? Right?  

[01:00:23] allen marcus:

Fair.   Mhmm. Fair use indeed.   The shortest eclipse better.  

[01:00:29] Unknown:

They really they really cucked out Europe so bad.   Like, it's it's insane what they did to Europe.   I don't I don't, I do not support the later anything from the later hose and phase on.   I that's just that's Christianized   Europe. They they they went in. They uniced us. Like, I don't support any of this.   Get out of here.  

[01:00:57] allen marcus:

The winner of the twenty twenty five Eurovision song contest has not yet been announced due to the fact that the You just spoke to the   Yes. This is today's entry, Tuesday, May 13, the first part of   the pre finale. Then?   So they have a Tuesday event. They have a Thursday event. They reduced the entries.   The they knock people out.   So then the   participants in the final song contest   of 2025   on Saturday   will compete.   So they have, like, today   Tuesday and Thursday where every country entered   who is allowed to participate   gets to sing their song on stage,   and then the voting happens, and then people are eliminated.  

And then the people that are not eliminated get to participate altogether   on stage on Saturday. And then after Saturday, the audience votes, and there's some there's some metrics. There it's very complicated. It's all very mathematical. And I I don't understand   numbers   or math or addition or subtraction or how the votes are tallied.   But at the end of the event But because you're not, cabalistic,  

[01:02:09] Unknown:

Marcus, and from   what I've been told,   that if you aren't into Kabbalah, that's all math derived from Kabbalah. Nobody else in the world noticed that, you know, you could take   and count multiple things. And then if I have, like, two of a thing over here, two of a thing over here, and I put them together, then I now have four of a thing. If you didn't have cabal, you didn't, that you didn't know any of that. None of it. It all derives   from that.   What the fuck? Did you not go through the material?   Don't ask I I you were told   don't ask dumb questions.  

You're dumb. Go back through   the approved   material.  

[01:02:51] allen marcus:

I   no. I'm in full agreement that Kabbalah is very important, that Jamatri is very important. I just clearly stated that I I have not devoted enough time and attention to the academy lessons   to gnostically   align my worldview   and ideology   with the correct  

[01:03:11] Unknown:

Why'd he even talk?  

[01:03:14] allen marcus:

I just wanted to show you a picture of this Eurovision guy. He's like mission impossible. He's in the Vitruvian Man position.   I don't think he's from Italy.   So there's this cross pollination of cultural ideas. And people kept saying symbolism will be their downfall, but I see the symbolism of man, Vitruvian Man, and the sake of geometry, and he's he's being held up by the symbolism.  

[01:03:34] Unknown:

So I don't know why people keep saying symbolism will be that helpful. I think he's being held up by that pipe up there that he's hanging on to.  

[01:03:43] Steve :

He's very acrobatic. He's being held up by the dude behind him.  

[01:03:47] Ben:

Yeah.  

[01:03:51] Unknown:

Yeah. And you notice his hands are off to the side, so you know what's holding.   Whole lot of that.  

[01:04:01] allen marcus:

So the the financial sport of this this guy doing the Mission Impossible   character,   kind of a Tom Cruise inspired thing   in the Vitruvian man position where the arms are straight out. It's the the divine proportions of legs and feet and arms and things. You know? The image of a man here,   certainly, this is an entry in the song contest.   My long winded way of saying as the singer   is not just singing a song. This is not a voice contest. This is not American Idol. The Eurovision   Song Contest   is a cultural creation vehicle that is a religious   song contest where each entry has to have a costume,   a haircut,   dancers,   music,   stage show, lights, choreography.  

It's not   merely a song. It's more than a song. So we're voting for the entire package,   the message, the vibes it sends.   It's not the quality of the lyrics of the song. It's not the singer's delivery of the song. The singer can dance a lot, run out of breath, and still sing to the backing track. Well, that's because they're not Bruce Dickinson,  

[01:05:11] Unknown:

and everybody is subpar compared to Bruce Dickinson who can run around the whole time, play the guitar,   sing, and then fly the plane to the next show. Fuck Steve for not realizing that he's the best.  

[01:05:25] allen marcus:

So Eurovision is a religious song contest   because   this entry is,   representing the religion of Italian   Italian Italian New England? I I this is representing   Italianism,   the religion of Italianism.  

[01:05:42] Unknown:

Then how come it's Eurovision? Why isn't it a television?   Why isn't it why isn't it noncontroversial?  

[01:05:48] Steve :

Okay. So Eurovision   is a competition,   yeah, in which all of the countries in Europe and also for some reason Israel get to participate   where they send   an artist   or a group   to the competition to represent that country.  

[01:06:11] Unknown:

And England's not allowed to send Bruce Dickinson?  

[01:06:15] Steve :

No.  

[01:06:17] Unknown:

No.   Totally unfair.  

[01:06:20] Steve :

I think,   England usually sends some, like,   trainee   freaking   bad   pop,   almost techno people.  

[01:06:35] Unknown:

Yeah. I see Eddie would step on them.  

[01:06:38] allen marcus:

Yeah.   This is where Riverdance   first emerged   on   the global stage. This is culture. I gotta admit Riverdance  

[01:06:48] Unknown:

was pretty fascinating. You're like, how the fuck is this happening? That was kinda interesting to watch. I mean, it wasn't something you'd watch twice,  

[01:06:56] allen marcus:

but the very first time, you're like, wow. That's wild. I'd watch it two or three times as I owned it.   I owned it on VHS, so I would watch it   multiple times. That that is, like, a good criticism,   for the Eurovision   people if if they would   publish the song contest, you know, the the acts, the the stage show on on VHS,   DVD, and Blu ray,   then it it would be preserved for all time.  

[01:07:30] Steve :

Have you tried writing them, Marcus?  

[01:07:34] allen marcus:

Writing the lyrics down?  

[01:07:36] Steve :

Writing Eurovision,   expressing your  

[01:07:39] Unknown:

As as, like, just as I said As a important consultant   to recall,   I would presume that you have,   some pretty good pull.  

[01:07:49] Steve :

Right? Direct line with the Eurovision people?  

[01:07:52] allen marcus:

I am pretty tight with Switzerland.  

[01:07:56] Steve :

Yes.   Suspect.  

[01:07:58] allen marcus:

Yeah. Switzerland   is the country that developed,   LSD   and,   what we call now on the Internet.   They are also the developers   of invented  

[01:08:13] Unknown:

the Internet. He's Switzerland?  

[01:08:15] Steve :

Yes.   Al yeah. Gore was shortened when they came over from l Ellis Island.  

[01:08:23] allen marcus:

Lgorhythm   was a mathematical   computation thing developed in in Switzerland. This is where CERN is, you know, c e r n, CERN. Mhmm. Yeah. We're very The  

[01:08:34] Steve :

Hadron Collider.   Have a whole series of houndings   based off   of CERN, the collider, and one particular Marmot.  

[01:08:45] Unknown:

What was the size of the pretending like you don't like CERN. You're dudes. Small. We smash things together for fun. That's what we do. You get one thing, and then you have another thing, and you're like, well, what if we smash them together?   Like, that'd be cool.  

[01:09:00] allen marcus:

That's what we do. That's what we do at Eurovision, dudes smashing together   after Gross. The events. Super gross.  

[01:09:09] Unknown:

Pause.   Super gross.   Yeah. No. This is why I don't watch Eurovision.  

[01:09:19] Steve :

Right? Because there's only so many times you can say no, Diddy.  

[01:09:25] Unknown:

Dude. And did I like, are all of them you got isn't he he's going through court or something like that, I thought I saw. And then you got Kanye   posting porn all over the place, walking around with his naked girlfriend,   you know, making   a a a Hitler song. You're like,  

[01:09:43] Steve :

oh, yeah. No. But the girlfriend thing was like, they they already split, dude. They split, and then he was like, I blew my cousin.  

[01:09:51] Unknown:

Yeah. I forgot about that part. Yeah. I forgot about that part.  

[01:09:57] Steve :

Oh, boy. There's a a track on his album, which he titled Cuck,   and one of the tracks is Yittler.  

[01:10:09] Unknown:

It's too much.   It's too much right now. It's like all the dumb shit's happening. It's like you can't even   have a full show. Like, you can't discuss anything yet. There's so many things, and everything's fucking retarded.  

[01:10:21] Steve :

Yep.  

[01:10:25] allen marcus:

Yeah.  

[01:10:27] Unknown:

And then and then   there's so many groups of people just trying to fraction off and grab on to anything,   And no matter how retarded it is. And and maybe it makes sense in their world because the things are so wild right now. I don't know what the fuck anybody else is seeing. It's crazy.  

[01:10:47] Steve :

I gotta go feed the dog. I'll be back in a few.  

[01:10:50] Unknown:

He's fat.  

[01:10:57] allen marcus:

So the   artistic   short film set to music and historical   speeches by great leaders   has been removed from YouTube   in a video   which we cannot show,   in a song which we cannot play.  

[01:11:19] Unknown:

Well, that's because YouTube has something about against boxcar mustaches. They're very racist about mustaches   about it. Shit.   Boxcar anymore.  

[01:11:30] allen marcus:

It's almost as if releasing a video  

[01:11:34] Unknown:

that gets removed from the most convenient platform to view the video. Try to do a boxcar, it would it would straight up look like like a small animal   and tried to crawl under your nose and take in residence.  

[01:11:46] allen marcus:

If I tell you you can't jump into that boxcar and ride that boxcar down the line, you're gonna go and jump in the boxcar and ride it down the line. If I tell you No. I hate trains.  

[01:11:57] Unknown:

Okay. I tried to go take care Karen Karen,   invited me to go,   speak at Flattoberfest.   And, I took a train, and that train just had to eat people along the way to keep going.   And I don't think I'd do that again.  

[01:12:14] allen marcus:

It's a fair question.   Would you do it again?  

[01:12:20] Unknown:

Not on a train. Not on a train? Not in a train. Not in a plane.   Maybe in a car.  

[01:12:28] allen marcus:

Would you at a bar?  

[01:12:30] Unknown:

Yeah. I I did go to the bar. I got a standing ovation at the bar. It was cool.   And then got to watch everybody sing,   karaoke. They had a good they had a good time. It was pretty hilarious. Brian Staveley, the hoot.  

[01:12:46] allen marcus:

Yeah.   I'm ready to look at some some comments. I think there are some valuable comments in the comment text fields.   On Rumble,   I see,   when will people get tired of crazy?   Rumble.  

[01:13:05] Unknown:

It doesn't appear anytime soon.  

[01:13:11] allen marcus:

Another question   asked,   by,   Dingo ate my baby asking how a specific country is considered being included in Europe. So the vision of the Eurovision   song contest is to expand the borders of of Europe to include   all countries   of the world.   They've expanded to Australia.   Certainly, Russia,   I think, is on the Asian continent   part of the   the Europe thing. So Europe being a continent is kind of a confusing nomenclature.   The   version   the vision   of Eurovision   is to encompass   all   of culture.   Every   country   will bow their knee and recognize  

[01:13:58] Unknown:

Eurovision as a big hodgepodge to everybody's really shit music.  

[01:14:03] allen marcus:

Yeah. Eurovision, everyone will bow to Eurovision as the one true song   contest.  

[01:14:09] Unknown:

And you're here because you love us, Linds, and we love you too.   That's that's why.   That's why you keep showing up, and you are awesome.   Yeah.  

[01:14:22] allen marcus:

You should write a strongly worded letter, Marcus. I I I do have some strongly word worded letters,   more more than four characters.   I'm I'm in beginning and emboldening my vocabulary.   Well, that's good. It's part of the rhetoric   in the debate   format. Now I haven't attended the,   proper debate university   put on by you know who.  

[01:14:53] Unknown:

Oh, I do. Done that yet. You haven't you haven't signed the nondisclosure agreement. You obviously didn't read the materials.   You didn't attend the universe   either university.   I I are you even taking this seriously?  

[01:15:09] allen marcus:

I know that you're you're questioning my credentials.   Why,   you know, why should I be a part of the trinity?   Why should I go through apotheosis?   Why should I be, you know, moving on from my form of demigod to   supernal   ruler of the known universe?  

[01:15:32] Unknown:

Do they do that?   If you win the debate, that's what you get. That's, like, the prize.   If you, like, if you, like, make the best points and and then call them the most names.  

[01:15:43] allen marcus:

Well, this is this is sort of, another   conversation for a skiff,   a a secure   what is this is when they're talking about UFOs and orbs and military secrets and things, when they when they talk about things privately   and and not in a public area, they talk about it in a skiff. And now that you've brought private matters into a public   matter, we're no longer in the skiff. Now I have to address the allegations   of my lack of credentials for being   in the deliberating dog faced dude's   livestream StreamYard room tonight   to defend my position that Eurovision is a religious song contest.  



[01:16:22] Unknown:

You should start your strongly worded letter with a Venn diagram. This is that's that's smart.   That's that's, like, presidential   style.  

[01:16:31] allen marcus:

The men   diagram   is at least   two circles, but we are determining that it requires a minimum of three circles to be considered   a   men   diagram.   And then the intersectionality   of the three ideas,   are you saying   that   I am not one of the three circles?  

[01:17:00] Unknown:

Did you   read the material?  

[01:17:05] allen marcus:

I read my material and decided what my thoughts were gonna   be before the debate.   Was I supposed to   agree with your position   and not,   argue against it?  

[01:17:23] Unknown:

Well,   if you wanna be in the club, Marcus, you don't get to say   dissension type   words.   And if you don't understand the materials, you don't say any words, and you're stupid.  

[01:17:37] allen marcus:

Okay. I'm   I am I am caught up. Sorry. You caught me slacking. I was a little bit napping.   I understand you're saying dissension, and we're all about ascension on the fifth dimensional   plane using our light codes.  

[01:17:54] Unknown:

Yes.  

[01:17:56] allen marcus:

Judge What else would you use? I just I just flash my light codes.  

[01:18:01] Unknown:

Do you know the codes?  

[01:18:04] allen marcus:

They are DaVinci, and they are divine.  

[01:18:08] Unknown:

Okay.   You pass.   Too bad.  

[01:18:12] allen marcus:

I had a lot of nervous energy.   I was holding in a lot of flatulence, and now I can just relax and let it out. Weird because my dog just farted too.   That's how we know the light codes are working. It's still yesterday. No. You released it. Everyone farts together. You released it. It was like  

[01:18:31] Unknown:

yeah. You stink, dude.   Okay.   I even have a straight pace through the fart.  

[01:18:41] allen marcus:

I'm I'm waiting for Steve to return before we get into the   narrative of the, as I'm calling it, cost of hollow   narrative.  

[01:18:53] Unknown:

Cost.   Nice.  

[01:18:55] allen marcus:

So the the narrative,   the the legend, and the mythology of what we will be referring to as the cost   of hollow   where   the number may have been as many or more,  

[01:19:11] Unknown:

6,000,000 is the number party to me.   Ovens,  

[01:19:17] allen marcus:

gas chambers. I don't think there was fuselage.   Did did they have   pew pews, bullets emerging from from rifles standing against the wall in the cost of hollow?  

[01:19:29] Unknown:

Not that much of that. It was mostly a lot of cooking in ovens.   Little bit of that. They they had to throw that in for stories.  

[01:19:39] allen marcus:

The headline of this story   reads   there were allies and there were Axis seeds. And the Axis   seas had to say that they give up,   that they are done   fighting in the theater.   And there was a d day,   and there was a story.   And when the allies   speaking English   returned   to their English speaking homes,   there was a lot of feeling and guilt involved with   using heavy machinery   against other   participants   in the   dramatic  

[01:20:23] Unknown:

theatrical mean, like, leveling Dresden to where two Brixton stand on top of each other? Quit trying to step on the keyboard.  

[01:20:29] allen marcus:

Yes. So there was a lot of deconstruction,   and there was a lot of reconstruction   involved   during this worldwide   wide event. I think this was the second worldwide event that occurred.   So the narrative of the cost of hollow   was a necessary   explanation   in a literary   form describing   the conditions   of   people   enclosed in a cage.   They were moved from their comfortable   living situation,   enclosed within a cage, and heroes,   maybe dressed in green   and camouflage patterns.   They wore a certain uniform and had a certain   distinction   being enlisted and sent abroad   to participate   in the event.  

So the the cost of hollow narrative   assuages   guilt and bad feelings that people had for a very embarrassing situation.  

[01:21:44] Unknown:

Assuages   guilt? If you if I assuage, you mean   exponentially multiply?   Sure. That wasn't the definition I ever heard of for a sewage, but yeah. No. That that is just one giant guilt fest right there. That was that was, half the,   half of what has,   castrated,  

[01:22:10] allen marcus:

Europe. So this connects to mustached men.  

[01:22:15] Unknown:

Although I gotta pay this whole thing with the moving in,   immigrants,   that's not new because when I was in, Germany back in the mid nineties,   that was a pretty well known thing. And the soldiers, we were clearly they would define the areas where they hung out,   and we weren't, we weren't supposed to go to those areas because there was a good chance, GI, you were gonna not come back in a all one piece.  

[01:22:45] allen marcus:

Yes. Yeah. The the cost   of fighting   for   democracy and and spreading democracy,   it was very costly. It it cost a lot of lives and   buildings and land   and time that the time spent not going to college or raising families, the time spent abroad for Americans   who pledged allegiance to the flag and were subordinate   to their   chain of command   in the the club that they joined.  

[01:23:18] Unknown:

You know how crazy are they are with that? Do you know that, like,   first world, second world, third world have absolutely nothing to do with act living conditions.   It's political affiliations.   First world countries are are   democracies.   Second world countries are are,   communist,   and third world countries are neither. They don't have one of those two political affiliations. That's that's it has nothing to do with anything else.   So they try and make it you're only a first world country. You're only an awesome country if if   you're a democracy.  

So Russia is not considered a first world country because they don't have they're even though they're   a democracy at this point, but they're classically   a communist society.   So they so then it looks like,   China and Russia are somehow   behind   The United States even though pretty much no real markers are they behind,   not technologically,   not, you know, financially.  

[01:24:24] Unknown:

But politically.  

[01:24:25] allen marcus:

Okay.   So   if our listeners are a little bit lost, let me catch them up to speed   real quick. I have been helping You'll make it clear for them. That's that that's what you do. You're known for it. I've been harping on this idea of the definition   of a survivor,   expanding the definition of survivor to include a specific   incident   being at an educational   campus.   So,   a person who   decides that they are in an education program and attend   a property   set aside for educational purposes,   if they are enrolled in that   program,   allowed on that property,   and   metal   emerges from a longer metal tube   forcefully   on the premises.  

And that event happens, and people survive that.   To what degree are they a survivor?   Now I was arguing that they have to have metal   pierce their skin   for them to declare themselves   having   survived.  

[01:25:48] Unknown:

See, in in my opinion, I I'm with Steve on that. Like, if if the metal pierced your skin, you survived getting shot.   Like, you were still at the event,   even if you didn't, you know, like, in in war,   if you go out, like,   you're everybody that was there was at war. You get a you get a purple heart if you get shot. That's like a it is an extra special thing, but,   you know,   but you weren't not there just because you didn't get hurt. Honestly,   didn't you get lucky if you didn't get hurt? I mean, it's not skill. Let's let's be real about that. You you're out there. Things are zinging around. You're you're not,   there's no skill. It's just straight luck.  



[01:26:35] allen marcus:

I you know what? And I again, disclaimer. I may have been hallucinating. I may have been,   causation,   correlation,   causation, correlation, causation, correlation,   not understanding the chain of linear history   in the events.   The   cost of hollow event   that   put men in cages   and required other men to free   a certain group of men from those cages   known as the   cost of hollow   became an important narrative   to the fact,   to the point that in 2025,   anyone who questions   or denies the legitimacy or existence of the   cost of hollow   could face criminal   fines,   deportation,   slaps on the wrist, and spankings.  



[01:27:35] Unknown:

Yeah. I switched over to Rollies. No more premades,   and I cut down severely.   I'm only doing, like, two packs of Rollies   a week. That's that's pretty  

[01:27:48] allen marcus:

So what then is the definition   of a survivor   of the cost of hollow?  

[01:27:56] Unknown:

Some Well, it would have to be somebody that  

[01:28:02] allen marcus:

lived in a in a German controlled area, I would have to say, for sure. You we can allow it to sit as a rhetorical question without having a sufficient answer   by the end of the stream tonight.  

[01:28:17] Unknown:

Like, you couldn't claim that living in a non controlled area, I don't think.   And isn't it amazing how, like, so many of them you know, there's not that many supposedly, but they all live to be, like, a hundred. You're like, that's amazing. There's a whole genre  

[01:28:33] allen marcus:

of educational   videos.  

[01:28:36] Unknown:

Like, what were they giving them in them, what were they cooking them up in them fucking, ovens right there, like, fucking,  

[01:28:42] allen marcus:

Yep. Or   disproving   the   mathematical statistical   probability   of the   event   happening. So the bodies   Mhmm.   In furnaces or chambers filled with   oxygen that was poisonous,   whether or not the number is over   or under 9,000 or 6,000,000   Or delousing spray one or the other. Right. So, again, a lot of people   are really obsessed with the guy who has the boxcar   lower than his nose and above his top lip.  

[01:29:23] Unknown:

The spot because I'm mad about the d lousing because some people like to have fleas and lices and stuff, and I don't. The fleas suck. You know, occasionally, you sleep with the dogs. You get the fleas, and that's why you keep birds because then the birds pick the fleas out, and then it's, you know, it's a cycle of life, circle of life.  

[01:29:41] allen marcus:

So the men who were put into cages had all of their body hair removed. Some of them had their skin used as lampshades.   Mhmm.   Some of them were turned into bars. Absolutely.  

[01:29:55] Unknown:

Can you imagine the smell?   Greasy little fuckers.  

[01:30:01] allen marcus:

Mhmm. So then this was the the necessity   of the horrific   story   of the time   people were locked into a a cage   where they thought really hard about what they did. In fact, they thought so hard they had to concentrate, and they might have called this place   the place of concentration.  

[01:30:25] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[01:30:26] allen marcus:

So they thought long and hard   about where they should live and where they should not live.   Their story   is important   because   the liberation   of the survivors   of the cost of hollow   who concentrated   really hard and thought about their existence   and their purpose for living,   their story is important.   And we cannot   deny   their story   because in denying the story of the concentration   of the individuals   in the makeshift home. Some might call it a a campsite.   If we are to deny their story   of surviving   their campout,   then the soldiers   who   attended their campout   and brought them marshmallows,   It   would become common, wouldn't it?  

To to deny that.  

[01:31:45] Steve :

It would be downright criminal. It would.   I can see why Germany has those laws.  

[01:31:51] allen marcus:

I can't. Right. And America might have those laws too.   And and Jeff And the re this is and and I'm arguing this is good and necessary because   to deny the event at the campground   where men and women and and gays and handicaps and colors and all the slurs that we can imagine,   they had to be put in time out to think long and hard about what they were contributing to society,   and certain people didn't like their contribution   to society.   Okay. So to to deny their survival   and their liberation from the campsite   that they were required to   stay in until they were liberated from that is to then deny the heroism   and the superiority   of the returning   veterans.  



[01:32:49] Unknown:

Mhmm. The greatest generation.  

[01:32:51] allen marcus:

So when those men   returned   from the theater,   the theater of war   after d day and storming beaches and swimming and and getting their feet wet in the sand   and going up into that situation  

[01:33:08] Unknown:

where They're making sure all the strong and brave ones were dead and the ones that didn't die were crazy.  

[01:33:13] allen marcus:

Yes. Those boats  

[01:33:15] Unknown:

who you are. You go to war. You don't come back right.  

[01:33:18] allen marcus:

Those boats that landed on those shores on that day of d,   they could have been   bombs could have been dropped on those ships.   Every soldier on that beach could have been wiped out and not allowed to reach the shore, to then reach the campsites, to then free the people from the overexposure in the ovens.   Very, very fair skinned. That was So so the act the act of heroism and when they return to civilian   life, then   the story, the legend   of their acts of heroism   are necessary   for everyone,   family members included,   to feel   important. And those who returned   unalived   in bags for their bodies in caskets,   maybe cremated, maybe just a toe, maybe just an ear, maybe just a dog tag,   the people that   returned   not in a living state to their family.  

The story of the campsite and the marshmallows   Mhmm.   Helps them.  

[01:34:28] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[01:34:29] allen marcus:

And that's the purpose of it. To deny it   is to fail to understand the purpose of it   and is to be very mean   Mhmm. And bigoted and hateful.  

[01:34:43] Unknown:

Mhmm. I've heard that.   Sad about Steve.   Mhmm.  

[01:34:55] allen marcus:

Steve, we burned your s'more.  

[01:34:57] Steve :

Oh oh, no.  

[01:35:00] allen marcus:

The marshmallow fell into the fire, and then it collected pieces of grass. We put it back in toward towards the chocolate. The the chocolate was it was vegan   chocolate and contained no actual cocoa in it. Oh, that's smart.  

[01:35:15] Unknown:

California   hurricanes   through an eight inch bamboo stick.   I'll have to try that.   What's up, Rose?   Evil Rose is in the chat.  

[01:35:29] allen marcus:

The doppelganger?  

[01:35:32] Unknown:

Yeah. She's   she's,   this is evil Rose.   If because there's no 777.   If she has a 777,   she's good, Rose. This is evil Rose.  

[01:35:43] allen marcus:

Okay. Important distinctions.  

[01:35:46] Unknown:

It is. What's up, Lucy?   What's up, Lone Star?   A very good idea. Yeah. 6,000,000 was a horrible mistake.   Bad math.   You know what? If it that's because we don't know Kabbalah.  

[01:36:02] Steve :

Mhmm.  

[01:36:03] Unknown:

We're not good with that. That's not our thing. That's for small hats, so we don't know the maths. Like, it's very confusing.   You don't see you don't see anybody named Magnus doing your fucking accounting.   Mhmm.  

[01:36:21] Steve :

Yeah.  

[01:36:24] allen marcus:

So   are we in agreement   that we will listen to every   song in Eurovision twenty twenty five? We will,   deliberate and commiserate   and determine   our top   five songs.   So next Tuesday, we can,   fight for our right to choose a favorite country,   and then we will determine the true and legitimate winner of the Eurovision Song Contest. Oh, okay.  

[01:36:58] Unknown:

Pure. I I I'm gonna have to   bow out of this.   I that would be more pop music than I've listened to in,  

[01:37:07] allen marcus:

my whole life. So you'd rather trust the the voting of the European European Commission in the song contest?  

[01:37:16] Unknown:

I would rather let   sit on a seatless bike   and let a piano drop on top of my head.  

[01:37:27] allen marcus:

That's   that   that would be performance art. Right. Now I don't know that that sort of gore would be allowed on   the, YouTubes.  

[01:37:38] Steve :

Only if Ben was dressed like Jesus.   Okay. So Kanye If you were killing Jesus in that fashion, it would be acceptable   on Eurovision.  

[01:37:49] allen marcus:

Right. Now   in 02/2006,   cover of Rolling Stone magazine,   a a man appears   in   Jesus' face.   Remember   the   the man who appeared in Jesus' face,   crucifix form,   crown of thorns, blood dripping down his face. Was it Mel Gibson?  

[01:38:13] Steve :

Not Mel Gibson. Oh, the other Mel Gibson. Yeah. No. This was Eurovision,   not a police traffic stop.  

[01:38:23] Unknown:

Man, Mel Gibson's entertaining. This other thing sounds shitty.  

[01:38:29] allen marcus:

When the name was Kanye West,   and Kanye West was   in Christ's face on the the cover of Rolling Stone magazine, he was saying that, I would have never guessed Kanye West in this. George w Bush,   I think, hated   color of the skin of a person. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and there was a Katrina event or a hurricane or some levee broke, and some people had to be displaced, from their homes because they were underwater and not in a mortgage sense, but in a a physical literal   flood.   Like like, Noah's built a boat already   Mhmm. Type of a flood.  

So, it was biblical. It was very biblical, and these biblical stories   continue   to this very day.   And this is why the Eurovision Song Contest is a religious   song contest.   Because every song   every song   contains   an ideology,   a point of view, a frame of reference.  

[01:39:36] Unknown:

Do you know what inherently  

[01:39:38] Steve :

make it religious in nature?   The the How does that and make it inherently or, like, solely   religious in nature? Uniquely religious in nature?   Are we talking capital r religion or lowercase r religion? You're the one that put forth the prompt, man. I mean, it's just you meant it when you created the original prompt.  

[01:40:09] allen marcus:

Like, it's a religious To clarify your argument, is this a tax exempt?   Capital r religion?  

[01:40:17] Steve :

I mean, is that what you're saying when you call it a religious event?   Or you call them religious songs?  

[01:40:27] Unknown:

Marcus, say hi to Lens, you dick.  

[01:40:30] allen marcus:

Hi, Lens, you dick.  

[01:40:33] Unknown:

No. I was calling you a dick. We shouldn't call her a dick.  

[01:40:36] allen marcus:

Oh, yeah. Don't call I didn't I didn't assume anyone's gender. You did it. You dick.  

[01:40:44] Unknown:

Well done, sir.  

[01:40:48] allen marcus:

So you concede that I win the debate?  

[01:40:51] Unknown:

I I concede.  

[01:40:52] allen marcus:

I I know that we had a comment in chat   from   freethinker   five nine   saying that he loved our shows when they were actual   debates,   but he still loves  

[01:41:07] Unknown:

us anyway. Dude, we are trying so hard to get debates, bro.   And, like, honestly and I'm honestly, this whole thing that happened with Marty was super weird for me. I was excited. I thought Marty wanted to do a little friendly spar, which sounded cool.   And it just went completely sideways. And then when we looked into it, he has, like, a nondisclosure   agreement and his fucking shit, and it's super culty and he got super weird. And it says you can't question anything or bring anything up. And if you don't know the right answer, you're a dummy, and you should have fucking   looked at the materials. And I'm just like, wow. What the fuck happened?  

Yeah. You know? And,   like, I I don't understand. And and we've tried to get debates and tried, and we've had a bunch of people agree and a bunch of people back out.   I don't know why. You know? It's not like we were trying to hate on anybody. Just be a little like, we wanted to have, like, frenemies. You know? That's   it's cool to have you know, a lot of people actually were irritated because we we had different points of,   people bringing up different points, and they want to hear the echo chamber thing. But we wanted people with different opinions and to hash things out.   And the the way the world works on most things   is   the pole both polarized sides are wrong.  

You know? That's just the way it is. It's it's this is basic hermeticism   one one zero one. Like,   when you're on a polarity,   both polarities think that they're correct, but the   it in order to rectify it, you have to step out of the polarity and it's,   you know, hot, cold.   You step out, it's all temperature. And you're like, okay. Well, then I like, we all like this temperature. We like to take our showers at 90 or whatever temperature people take showers at. I don't fucking know. Well, it's 90 degrees outside or the temperature of the water heater is above 90 degrees, so it's very, very hot water.  

[01:43:06] allen marcus:

Am I in hot water right now? Do you guys hate me? Am I out of the Trinity?  

[01:43:11] Unknown:

No. No. We love.  

[01:43:13] allen marcus:

Okay. Absolutely not. So I guess my my final,  

[01:43:17] Unknown:

You guys should have seen   Steve Steve in the chat before the show. He got Marcus bad. It was great.   He tried to pin Marcus down on something, and he got he got walked around the Mulberry Bush some years. It was fucking hilarious. To the heart, and you're so vain.  

[01:43:37] allen marcus:

You give love   a bad name.  

[01:43:45] Unknown:

I have a I have a final slide. I show. In in prison, every dude that,   had a guitar and one of them little things that did that, he played that song consistently. It's why I know it.  

[01:43:56] allen marcus:

For my for my Tuesday sermon closer, I have a final slide. Okay.  

[01:44:01] Unknown:

Okay.   Is it the lighter slide?  

[01:44:04] allen marcus:

It's, Boogaloo.   Okay. It's a jigaboo.   It's,   I don't know if I'm allowed to say those terms.   Okay. So these are the statements of beliefs   of the Gnostic Church and Academy.   It's the   PDF.   I'm not gonna read all of them.   This is their statement of belief.   Okay. So now that we all believe the statement of beliefs exists and we believe the beliefs held within the statement of beliefs, we hold them to be true and we hold them as our own   beliefs.   It's a mystery school thing. Okay.   Alright. So let's solve the mystery.  

[01:44:51] Unknown:

I totally forgot last week. Dude was talking to me when he was gonna start a mystery school, and I was all into it. And I downed it, helping with it, and everything else. And then it's just gonna be a podcast, and then it was a church podcast. Like,   I'm out. That's why that's why I hadn't talked to him in so long because I was like,  

[01:45:10] allen marcus:

That is what we were at.  

[01:45:12] Unknown:

Right. That sound that sounds horrible.   Yeah. Here's the thing. When I heard mystery school, I imagined   at least, like, a week a year or something like that or two weeks, people getting together, doing actual experiments,   not just bullshit.  

[01:45:29] allen marcus:

Living in community together, having a good time.  

[01:45:32] Unknown:

And then I listened to his thing on on,   Sunday.   And, god,   wow.   So bad.   Like, every motherfucker just regurgitates, like, Jordan Maxwell type shit and Theosophical   Society bullshit,   and nobody actually studies anything.   Like,   his stupid nonsense with that making you mere into a fucking hermaphroditic   being. Okay. That's fine. If you wanna make Adam into that, that's fine by me. You know, that's your thing. But Ymir absolutely wasn't hermaphroditic. That's why it took a dumla, and the dumbass said bull. It's a cow.   Cow is a female   specifically,   and it's through the licking of the rhymey,   rhymey ice, the salty ice, and the mixture of their fluids and her leaking out milk that life sprang. It took male and female. It wasn't her maphroditic   thing, you fucking numbnuts.  

Read the whole fucking story.   And, you know, and and fucking   Valhalla isn't heaven.   Like, there's there's a bunch of places that better for the dead or the afterlife or whatever in heathen cosmology.   Not just one. That specific one   is for the shock troops, the warriors, the ones who love fighting.   That's nothing like your thing where fat little angels sit around. And actually, from what I understand, they aren't even like they get They're called cherubs.  

[01:47:00] allen marcus:

They're cute.  

[01:47:02] Unknown:

Sit sit around and sing and, I don't know, make, like, cards and stuff. Make, like, Mother's Day cards and stuff. I don't I don't fucking know what to do. Oracle decks?   Yeah. Something.   Yeah. You know, they're they're not in the fucking same. Nothing the fucking same. I have my slide prepared. It it is the correct slide this time. Even even our hell isn't like the burning punishment. It's not even a punishment in any way, shape, or form.   Oh, this is super cute. One of these kittens is try trying to curl up with Bubba.   But,   it it we actually have a punishment afterlife.  

It's where,   you know, oath breakers and,   brother brother killers, things like that go.   And they're attacked by dogs consistently,   and   it's not a great place. We have one.   It's not hell.   Oh, Cammy.   Everybody needs to you know, Cammy,   she was   in the chat the other day and, Cammie Nodell, anybody that doesn't know her, and she thinks she's not a good presenter. And but the thing is is the things that she presents are absolutely brilliant.   And, you know, there's some people that can baffle you with bullshit,   and,   she's not one of them. She's not that person. But if you listen to her, she's fucking brilliant.  

So   everybody should go check out Camille Nodell.   She's on the Globusters channel,   and she's an absolutely wonderful person.   And I wish she put out more work.  

[01:48:43] allen marcus:

And I appreciate shouting out   people who   have great ideas.  

[01:48:49] Unknown:

I'd be happy to She's somebody that if you were gonna have a mystery school, you would absolutely want her at the mystery school. She's not a pop and prim person that's gonna stand up on a stage and make you clap and all that, but she will walk around and show you some shit that will blow your mind   and really change your perspectives on things. She's like the perfect teacher at a mystery school. This is the kind of thing I was excited for. Not this nonsense where it's, oh, you can join my cult where you can't,   question anything.  

And even if you were questioning it out of genuine   want for an answer, well, you're a stupid head and you should have read the material   provided to you by the gospel of Marty.  

[01:49:34] allen marcus:

Like, what the fuck, dude? What the fuck? I'm prepared to read the material. The material is entitled   membership terms and   conditions. Private memberships at the Gnostic Church and Academy   are a commitment   not only to support the work of this church, but also a commitment for the betterment of ourselves and our communities.   Becoming a member doesn't just mean buying a few extra perks through the academy. It means a total dedication to the great work that god has placed before us and to live every day as a walking meditation on Christ. Just as our Masonic brothers tell us, our organization is dedicated to making good men better, which means we are fully expect that our members have a dedication to personal and spiritual growth. It is highly encouraged that you participate when and if you can in the online community   that we have on various platforms.  

Let's look into this further.   We require   and expect all of our members to conduct themselves in a decent, respectful, and mature   manner. This includes, but is not limited to,   leaving any sense of entitlement at the virtual and the literal doors,   Having a controversial   sense of humor is a must.   Right.   Taking responsibility for one's own education and searching for information first before asking for any explanations.  

[01:51:02] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[01:51:03] allen marcus:

Generally, we do not see it as part of our mission questions.   As part of our mission to teach basic human decency and good behavior, please come equipped.   What's your statement?   Don't ask questions.  

[01:51:19] Unknown:

Don't ask questions.   Don't ask questions. This is the order felony. Don't be a dummy. This is a membership agreement that we are reading directly. The materials, and you know which materials, only the approved materials. Don't add don't read other materials.  

[01:51:34] allen marcus:

Understanding   one's own triggers and engaging in humble self reflection when needed or pointed out by others is a requirement   for the members.  

[01:51:42] Unknown:

You showed that   when you flipped out about freaking shit just because you can't just because   you can't debate   things that you say.   With although, you know, according to Marty, debate is dumb   and and pointless. But if you just look at his channel, he's sitting there shitting on, like, arcades who won't come debate him, and that was just recently a Jay Dyer and we  

[01:52:08] allen marcus:

celebrated. We celebrated   the Marty Lee's I see. Takedown of Jason Yeah. RKX's ideas. That was great. Did a great job of critiquing those ideas. Now when it was our turn in the cycle to critique   Marty's ideas. And in fact, we invited Marty,   leaving an open invitation saying, you know, I guess if you have a scheduled conflict, we can figure something out, but let's collaborate and talk about this   resynchronizing idea. And especially   to mention paganism, this is like   this is the calling card of Benjamin Balderson. You you wanna talk paganism?   Have the conversation with the guy who's   into that idea, the Odinism, especially the pace, the the Norse paganism.  

But the no name calling or attacks of characters of any kind, we only point out people's behavior,   false of conduct, or errors in thinking. So I'm a little confused. Let me read this again. This is in the member's   conduct   terms and condition conditions.   It says no ear calling or other attacks of character of any kind. We who is we?   We, the Gnostic Academy   Yeah. Only point out people's behavior,   faults of conduct, or errors in thinking. So who are   the we in this statement? I don't I don't quite know. Maybe we'll get that clarified   for us. There's a few more points here. I don't know if you're like Will.  



[01:53:37] Unknown:

But the next one is a good one here. It's it's a  

[01:53:40] allen marcus:

Mhmm.   It is expected that private members familiarize themselves with the material we present. Again, who is we? I guess for the purpose of this,   it is the Gnostic Academy.   The material Gnostic Academy presents especially the basics and either have read or will read our books, Gnosticism   Defined,   the tenets of the order, and the statement of beliefs. I showed the statement of beliefs   that was available to me as a non member.   It is not necessary to agree with 100% of what is presented in these documents.   However, one should align with the majority of the points there. We we   the deliberating dog faced dudes   have agreed with   and aligned with the majority of the points the YouTube channel,   ministry,   church,   religion, academy,   of Gnostic   Academy   has put out.  

We haven't been in conflict with those ideas.   Just, we've had some questions about   one idea.   Now there's more on the membership terms here. Before you sign up, let's let's read through these quickly. Criticism,   especially unsolicited,   is generally not welcome unless permission is granted. It points out specific   strategic errors or when provably false information has been presented.   I'll pause.  

[01:55:08] Unknown:

Don't disagree.   But even when it's false information,   provably,   also don't disagree or all that little midget fuck will flip and lose his mind.  

[01:55:23] allen marcus:

The next bullet point I'm sorry. I'm trying to not say the the b word. The next,   item   in the agreement   reads, one's own personal preferences or opinions as to which or how information is being presented are generally not welcome   unless specifically requested. I guess that would be at the request of the academy itself who would then initiate   the invitation to have a   conversation   about the sermon   and the content of it.  

[01:55:58] Unknown:

Don't question the cult leader, motherfuckers.   Straight up.   Don't do it.  

[01:56:07] allen marcus:

Okay. So a state of victim mode will not be tolerated. I don't know who   would be tolerating victimhood anywhere.   Crickets,   chirps,  

[01:56:19] Steve :

chirps. I mean,  

[01:56:22] Unknown:

pussy hat convention.   They like that. Yeah.   Also small hats.  

[01:56:27] allen marcus:

I got four more membership,   requirements.   All members are expected to improve and employ their critical thinking skills, honesty, and compassion with each other and themselves at all times.   At all times.  

[01:56:44] Unknown:

None of the information. My critical thinking skills   regurgitate   what cult leader says. If you   have a different opinion, keep that shit to yourself.   Yep. Or else be excommunicated   from the cult.  

[01:56:59] Steve :

Right.  

[01:57:00] allen marcus:

Mhmm. And if you violate your NDA, will the cult will come and sue you? This is the point about the NDA. So none of the information exclusive or private members shall in any way, shape, or form be shared, reproduced, or copied anywhere at any point without explicit permission from the church.   Church. That's fair. Boy. That's fair.  

[01:57:20] Unknown:

Boy, I I I I admittedly, I'm not a Christian. Maybe I'm   a little bit lacking in knowledge here. I have been to churches.   I have Christian relatives.   I maybe they didn't tell me about the nondisclosure   agreements because maybe the nondisclosure   not talking about the nondisclosure agreement is part of the nondisclosure agreement. I don't fucking know.   Is that a normal thing   for a church to have a nondisclosure   agreement?  

[01:57:53] allen marcus:

I guess I haven't joined enough churches and then been kicked out of enough  

[01:57:57] Unknown:

churches to to Have you ever have you you went to evangelical   college and everything, and you're from a super Christian background as is   Steve,   I would like to know if either of you have ever   been requested or know anybody else to sign a nondisclosure   agreement   for the church.  

[01:58:20] Steve :

Nearly once.   Mhmm.   Not not not never.  

[01:58:26] Unknown:

Not never?   Nope. Never.  

[01:58:29] allen marcus:

Okay.   So two more points in the membership agreement. Sounds like somebody that signed a nondecclosure  

[01:58:36] Unknown:

agreement would say.  

[01:58:38] allen marcus:

Idle worship of any kind is   obviously prohibited,   especially at which may be directed towards any of the leaders of this organization.   Idol worship is prohibited.   And the final,  

[01:58:50] Unknown:

part of the terms and conditions are Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I need to know what an idol is here because   let me if there was something that   you were   only able to give adulation to   and not able to question   and not able to even   say anything about anything and any negative connotation   about,   and you could only be, like, glowing and cheery about,   would that   fall a little bit under idle?  

[01:59:23] allen marcus:

Idolatry?  

[01:59:25] Unknown:

I see.  

[01:59:27] Unknown:

Okay. I I'm not familiar with it. It's not a it's not a thing that we talk about really. So in my thing.  

[01:59:35] allen marcus:

The idol worship of any kind?  

[01:59:38] Steve :

I I you know? What if part of your worship   is to play Billy Idol covers?  

[01:59:48] allen marcus:

That's maybe allowed.   You think?  

[01:59:52] Unknown:

Would would all the weddings be white then?  

[01:59:54] Steve :

It's a   nice day to   start to get hurt.  

[02:00:02] Unknown:

So I knew we'd get back to racist.  

[02:00:05] allen marcus:

The final line item here and the terms and conditions,   any of these terms and conditions, including the membership fee,   the money paid to be a member,   are subject to change if and when we   see   fit. In which case, we will inform all of our private members via email writing and or through other means of contact.  

[02:00:28] Steve :

That's nice.  

[02:00:29] allen marcus:

Yeah.   By joining our church and academy as an exclusive private member,   you,   the signer of the the agreement, agree to all the points above as we've read them.   If the pastoral leadership team   if the pastoral leadership team   determines that if and when any of the above terms have not been fulfilled,   we, the pastoral leadership team,   reserve the right to terminate our membership or   your membership. They remain members, but you   don't get to keep your membership   if they say you violated   them, their terms.   Though we reserve the right to terminate your membership and ban you   from any group and interaction at any time without reimbursement.  

We also reserve the right to terminate the private membership as a whole if we deem necessary blessings.   Signed. Can you read the cursive?  

[02:01:36] Unknown:

No. I I I agree. There's a little debate coming up in the chat. I like it. I like it.   Whether,   you know, whether we could equate some of this to loyalty.   And in   a hundred percent, I this is   I would state,   a fine line. And this is one of the problems with the noncritical   thinking society   is these fine lines,   they they get lost. You can't really see it. They it's gotta be very blunt points. And this is why polarization   is such a draw.   So absolutely loyalty is a thing. And every every church or every community should,   want loyalty out of its members a %.  

I   now   to not be able to question   anything,   now this is absolutely crazy. So, like, a lot of people would look at me because, like, I I'm I'm   against women voting.   The final say is in in my house is me. There's just no doubt about it. And on my farm, it's me. But   that doesn't mean that other people didn't put in their opinions   on anything that happens.   That's a fact, and that that wasn't given consideration.   That that's just asinine.   Is it because of paper cuts? So so then you're a dictator when you don't do those things. Now you're just a weird dictator who's probably gonna have very unhappy people around him.  

[02:03:09] allen marcus:

If women if women hold the paper ballot, they're more prone to paper cuts and they could bleed out in the election. You don't want hanging chads. Don't want hanging chads. Problems.   Are you opposed to women using digital,   electronic   the diebold voting machines?  

[02:03:26] Unknown:

I mean, you're against everybody using those.  

[02:03:28] allen marcus:

Okay.  

[02:03:32] Unknown:

But   loyalty is absolutely,   a very important,   quality.   To me and and this is me as a person, that's really number one   out of a out of a person.   And it's very important. But   where you can't question, you can't   discuss things, you can't come you know, you're you're bound by one person, that's a dictatorship.   That's crazy.   That's crazy. And then you can't talk to other people about it. That's a fucking cult. That's that's really weird. So the sermons are delivered  

[02:04:08] allen marcus:

via a live stream,   and the church attendance   is Sunday mornings   in a YouTube   chat. So the username   in the YouTube chat signifies your attendance   in the church   sermon.   And if you say something   in the chat   during the church sermon,   that's interrupting.   If you interrupt the sermon and disagree with the sermon or try to correct or address an issue,   that is bans for removal from the YouTube chat.  

[02:04:44] Unknown:

Yeah. Pull up that pull up that thing that I that I screenshotted when I was watching his Sunday one where somebody even brought in some other   cipher for,   geometry, I think, and they're like, no. We don't use those ciphers here. We don't talk about that. Just the Marty leads approved cipher is the only one we use.   Like like,   what the fuck?   You guys can't even talk about other   Dematria's or whatever the hell. I'm not into that whole thing. Every guy would not that does Dematria   is like a crack addict when they're talking, and that's part of why   you can't even stop to think about what they said to actually   go,   that doesn't really make that much sense, you know, and start breaking things down because they're already on to 23 other things.  

Every one of them I've ever seen, they talk like that.   Like, fucking miss their callings as auctioneers.  

[02:05:45] allen marcus:

You got it here. Was it on a rumble?  

[02:05:48] Unknown:

No. I put it in our, telegrams.   Yeah. Let's see. I sent you that screenshot of it because I was listening to his,   his,   resanctifying   or whatever the fuck,  

[02:06:02] allen marcus:

Resacralizing?  

[02:06:03] Unknown:

Resacralizing,   like, where he tried to turn everything into create end of and then it was fucked up, so I'm like, he's when he's talking about Valhalla, he's like, yeah. And the the there's so many shields above so many doors and so many men. That's multiplication.   See? It's Kabbalah. Yeah. Because because they're the only ones that had math. They they invented all math. According to him the week before live,   they gave us language.   We were walking around   for that.   Hey.   Holy fuck. Never mind things like the rock stone and, like,   all kinds of different things, and the languages were completely separate.  

Alphabet's   completely different because we didn't have an alphabet. We had a. Never mind all of that.  

[02:06:53] allen marcus:

I'm looking for the the comments. Some of these comments disappear. I know if you're leaving comments on  

[02:06:59] Unknown:

the YouTube channel and I'll be looking at your telegram for a screenshot   of comment on Marty's thing.  

[02:07:08] Steve :

Yep. I didn't see it in the telegram.  

[02:07:11] allen marcus:

Didn't see it in a private chat to me.  

[02:07:16] Unknown:

Maybe it did disappear. I know I sent it. Yeah.  

[02:07:25] allen marcus:

So   that might be an explainer. Fucking  

[02:07:29] Steve :

where he was like,   you're only worth you're swine heathen, and I have pearls and fuck. Like, that shit was wild, dude. That's a girl. I can't   imagine   sitting there as, like, a grown ass man typing that to another grown ass man and having it not be, like, dialogue for a skit.  

[02:07:52] allen marcus:

It's not true.   It's a true   sorry.  

[02:07:56] Unknown:

Where's the receipt? I guess I I have to pull it up now and read it word for word so everybody can everybody can hear the exact We got it. Right here. Oh, you got   it. Oh, listen. You are a swine heathen. I got pearls.   Got a pearl necklace while you're on your knees for Jesus.   You   don't   get one ounce of my time anymore. Motherfucker, you're up raging at 03:30 in the morning. That's you giving Ben your time. You see you see you see what this was? I received it at 01:31AM   Pacific time.   That's 03:30AM   Missouri time, fellas.   You're up raging at 03:30 in the morning. Frank, I was sleeping like a baby.  

Bro. Like, I didn't care of   wow, dude. I'm a swine heathen.   They're like   you call I'm a heathen. I call myself that.   That's so weird   to try and use that as like a slur as a slur.   And pigs are super smart and loyal and cool. Petunia is actually my favorite animal on the farm.  

[02:09:11] Steve :

Sounds like something a heathen would say.   Swine?  

[02:09:17] Unknown:

Swine.   Swine.  

[02:09:19] allen marcus:

This so this isn't a beef. This isn't a pork. This is a chicken.  

[02:09:26] Unknown:

Tastes like chicken.   Chickadee China.   Buck  

[02:09:34] Steve :

buck.   Heathen swine. Oink. Oink. Beatch.   Yeah.  

[02:09:40] Unknown:

And I thought you said you didn't wanna fight.   And I thought you said, like, three emails before that that you were done talking to me.   Like, what the fuck? Then yourself email to reiterate  

[02:09:52] Steve :

I am done talking to you. I am no longer going to be corresponding with you as you are not worth my time. Furthermore,   let me add how much not worth my time you are. I am willing to spend as long as it takes   so that you understand   just how little of my time you are worth, which is none of it.   If I haven't made myself clear, here's my 37 page dissertation   on why I don't think about you.  

[02:10:23] Unknown:

Like, dude, 03:30 in the morning, if I'm not having sex with you or you're my child and going through life problems, I'm not thinking about you at 03:30 in the morning. I promise. I don't know you.   Like, what the fuck?   That's crazy, dude.  

[02:10:42] Steve :

Right?  

[02:10:45] Unknown:

What are you doing, man?   Why are you up gacking out at 03:30 in the morning?   And and then the person that he puts up in his little talk is some dude that's in prison, and he's like, yeah. That's what pagans believe. What this one crazy guy I've never heard of myself   believes. He didn't even he didn't even bother going with somebody like the the modern.   The guy who invented modern Asatru,   that dude's alive.   Steve McNallon, he's alive. You could talk to him. You don't even bother bringing that dude up, the actual head of the   biggest   heathen religion   in The United States?  

You don't even bother bringing that. Did you bring up some crazed dude in prison? You're like, yeah. That's what that dude said. That's what pagans believe.   Like, what kind of bitch shit is that? You had a chance to actually talk to somebody that actually actively   studies it, actively   studies other people, has been to   tons and tons of bloats.   Like,   you're not gonna talk to that person. You're just gonna make stupid shit up because you don't want anybody to fucking   not hear what you say because what you would say is the gospel. Don't question that shit. I think I have the definition  

[02:12:01] allen marcus:

here. There's another slide.   The sermon just keeps going on and on. I get more slides to add to it.  

[02:12:08] Unknown:

Get it.   Let's see it, Dent.  

[02:12:11] allen marcus:

So   y'all are officially a five zero one c question mark question mark. Can't wait to make my first donation once I move back to The States.   The definition is   five zero eight space lowercase c   left parenthesis,   the number one, right parenthesis,   left parenthesis, lowercase a,   right parenthesis.   It is a special classification   type of what we would call a five zero one c three.   Yes. Just clarifying   for   him, says Nausica Academy,   that indeed the Nausica Academy is a five zero one   c one a. I think that's is that tax code?   Yeah.  

K. So that's the definition of Gnostic Academy,   five zero eight c one a.  

[02:13:14] Unknown:

And is it the piss drinking? Is that what makes their all these guys go crazy? Because a lot of them, they're into the piss drinking.   Yeah. Maybe. In their eyes and all that.  

[02:13:25] Steve :

Maybe.  

[02:13:26] allen marcus:

That might be in the secret teachings and the documents that as as nonmembers, we do not have access to. But if members do have access to these documents and want to share them anonymously,   There are email addresses on website. I'm sorry. It's, like, in your head. Contact at allen marcus dot com is available to receive documents, PDFs, screenshots, forms, whatever.  

[02:13:53] Steve :

Just just so we're clear, the five zero eight designation   is one that's normally held for, like, churches and religious organizations and stuff like that, and it bypasses,   an application to the IRS   to be recognized as a tax exempt organization.  

[02:14:15] Unknown:

Ain't that special?   Yeah. Ain't that special?   I love you, Cammie. She says everyone should have a heathen friend with no filter. Reality matters.   Cammie's the best.   And I should and we should go out east again.   We gotta get a different truck to do that, though. It's alright. I'm truck.  

[02:14:36] Steve :

Fucking rent a car, dude.  

[02:14:39] Unknown:

Heard stowing it. We got stuck in Wyoming for, like, freaking a week and a half last time because my damn Now granted, my whole drive train's basically been rebuilt since then.   Like, wow.   I I blew my transmission. We got that put in, and that's I did that right before Flattover or, you know, Flattover   hurricane fest,   and we made it out there. And then on the way back, my rear end started coming apart,   and, I had to get all the u joints replaced just to limp at home   and and had to have a yoke replaced.   But it's not you've really gotta rebuild those rear ends because the ones from the factory, they put this thing called   a a a pinch sleeve in there. And so when you tighten it down, it shortens it. And so that's like a onetime shot.  

You'll never you can't ever use that again.   Mhmm. And,   I I had to put that on by the time and I got home, and I don't think that rear end was right anyway. So I had to completely rebuild the rear end, put all new bearings in the entire rear end on the end the whole nine.  

[02:15:49] allen marcus:

Yeah.   I hope that comes in clear for you. Hurricane Fest,   as you call it, 2024?  

[02:15:57] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:15:58] allen marcus:

Look on the bottom. That's, Cameo Dell's name. I think it's probably mirrored or blurry or something, but, you know,   there it is.  

[02:16:04] Unknown:

See. And and Tammy doesn't go on stage, so a lot of people don't get to see her because she's down doing all the awesome experiments and doing the real things that people should be paying attention to, not the glitz and the glamour.   And and, honestly,   I I'm this is part of why I was so excited about, mystery school because I I'm better at that.   The thing is is before I start talking, I am so horribly uncomfortable. I wanna crawl out of my own skin, and it's not until I start talking about, like especially if I like, it's nice if I'm doing an alchemy or something I'm working on. And now I'm just thinking about my project thing, and the whole world disappears, and then I can actually sound decent.   The   I'm not for that kind of thing, but I love walking around doing things.  

And if you're not doing it, you don't really get it. You can read a Chilton's manual a thousand times, and you still won't know how to rebuild an engine. But I could take you and rebuild the engine with you, and you'll know 10 times more than anybody that ever read that book without even reading   it. It's the the if there's a reason it was a hands on,   you did the thing, that's what changes your mind and makes you understand and makes you start implementing those things into your   thought process.   Because one of the reasons that   people   aren't implementing things is because they don't do them anything with these thoughts. So they understand a bunch of things,   but because they've not ever implemented it, it doesn't readily come up into their critical thinking, and that's a problem.  



[02:17:42] Steve :

Well, in in fairness, man, the Chilton's and stuff like that were kind of four people who already had   a pretty general working knowledge of what they were going to be doing.   You know? And it was, okay. Well, you know, tool recommendation,   part size, if you have to go to the fucking hardware store to go replace some fucking shit. You know? It gave you specs and all that. But, yeah, they were definitely designed more for,   like, at least, like, hobbyist to I have to sit here and work on all my own shit, you know, home mechanic.  

[02:18:16] Unknown:

Yeah.   No. It's it's but still, no matter what, you read the book on something.  

[02:18:22] allen marcus:

No matter how well done that book is, you don't really understand what's going on Yeah. Yeah. At all. You guys don't understand anything unless you've written the book that you require your members to have read. Have you been  

[02:18:35] Steve :

have you been?  

[02:18:38] Unknown:

Have you been? I think if you are going to make a career   speaking   about a thing, you should have been.  

[02:18:48] Steve :

How many gnostic academies have you been to?  

[02:18:55] Unknown:

If you're going to talk about the gnostic academy,  

[02:18:59] allen marcus:

you should have had the decency to at least have been to it. Right. Right. So in the fight between Jason, Archaic's, Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush  

[02:19:30] Unknown:

Oh,   probably Archaics, I would think.   Marty's a tiny dude.  

[02:19:35] Steve :

Yeah.  

[02:19:37] Unknown:

It's like it's like imagining Frodo Baggins   getting into some fisticuffs with, I don't think ArcadiaX is a particularly big guy either, but,   and he and he's a and he's a   sex offender, so he sat around playing d and d and making up shit, you know, stories. He wasn't on the weight pile. Somebody would have dropped the weight on it, dropped him on his head.   But   I would still say, yeah, Marty's like Frodo.   He's like a tiny, tiny dude.   He's gonna make the funniest Nazi.   Michael.   Yeah.   I would also love to do so.   And and even though I'm not generally that person anymore,   I've got way too many broken parts in me that just hurt out the gate.  

Like, in that right that hand has been broke a lot of times,   lots and lots of times. Just the thought.   It's like  

[02:20:48] allen marcus:

Young men fight old men's wars.  

[02:20:51] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah.   You know, if you ever jammed your finger,   that's really what it feels like when you break this.   You know, it's not it's not screaming pain in you know, like   like, when I flew off the motorcycle and shattered my whole left side, it's not like that.   It's more like you jammed something only it's that feeling times like 10,   and it doesn't go away no matter what you do. You wanna sit there, like, go like this and just pull on it. You're like Yep. And it doesn't  

[02:21:23] Steve :

fucking yeah. And it hurts for, like, two or three weeks   depending on how bad you fucked yourself up. That's cool. Adam had,   Archaics had Adam on.  

[02:21:34] allen marcus:

It's like getting your finger pulled and not expressing gratitude to flatulence is like, why'd you pull my finger and I didn't even fart about it? See, now now that makes me wonder if our KX is trying to jump on team white power bandwagon  

[02:21:47] Unknown:

too.   Maybe. Why why what else what what else would because that's kinda what Adam Green is known for is he's very anti   anti Abrahamics,   which I which I love. I love. I'm not also, you know, I'm also with that. But   why is Archaics getting in on it? And the thing is is, guys,   some people you should definitely leave out of your team.   Some people you should definitely   definitely leave out of your team. You don't want that guy to have your back behind your back in any way, shape, or form. You certainly don't want him around your daughters and your wives.   That's that's a fact. He's flat said. He's the same dude he was when he was 17, and that 17 year old   violently   did things against somebody against the girl's will to the point where she was hospitalized   for an extended duration and testified against him. So it's all just very clear. You you definitely don't want that around.  

In fact,   probably just make sure that's not around period because nobody should have that around. That's you don't even want that happening to your enemies. You you gotta have honor. You're no better than they are if you're doing that kind of crap. That's for damn skippy. So just just just be better off, like,   short rope, tall trees.  

[02:23:07] Steve :

Having said that, Adam's cool as shit.   Yeah.   Adam's my dude.  

[02:23:14] Unknown:

I would like to, Steve's upcoming gonna get a I do like him, like I said. And what he's representing, I don't have a problem with.   And I'm assuming that he doesn't realize   the history   there,   because at one point in time, I was going to talk to our case there, but, you know, he was   he was   oddly growing on YouTube in an insane fashion. And a bunch of people like, yeah. You need to talk to him because he occasionally mentions, like, Ragnarok and things like that.   So people thought I should talk to him, which I understood.   And then,   I got well, when I was thinking about it,   I believe it was either Rose from Crow   or,   Karen BFE   or both,   got you know, shot me a message like, hey. You should go ahead and do a background check on that dude. And so I did, and I did it thoroughly.  

And it was all all   all bad.   The information's there, real easy to get, and he's still lying about it.   And so,   apparently, nobody did that favor for him. You know? It's what I'm gonna assume.   And,   that's   that's why you just gotta keep these people out of the community. But the thing is is then when you speak up against people like that,   that,   honestly,   that caused   crazy amounts of anger. I got attacked by the   his little rabbit cult group for a very long time, and it's really wild to see because, you know, anybody that's followed me knows I I did eight years in prison over some weed.   Very little bitter weed too.  

Times have changed.   And   I   first sesh that I went to to go medical session went to to go sell. This cop's guarding it or one of the first ones, and he asked to look at my stuff. And I'm like, oh my god. I did, like, I did eight years of prison for not even a touch of this. And he just looked in and went, oh, that's nice.   Go ahead. Like,   I didn't shit for, like, three days.   But in prison,   those guys   and their real weaklings,   they sit at these tables together and they basically play   advanced versions of Dungeons and Dragons.   And in the one that I was in,   and it they didn't do, what he's doing   exactly. They did a whole Templar and   Hashishene thing, and they come up with super exotic stories.  

And the more real world, like, mythology and stuff you can put into it, and this is just like basic book writing or basic movie making,   it it then oh, yeah. That's a real thing. That makes it cool. Oh, I know some things about that, and then you get to bring that whole,   understanding into your thing.   And   so these guys were super creative at it. You're sitting around in prison. You ain't got nothing but time to think. I promise. You're and   so these guys, they come up with very elaborate stories, and that's what he does. He just gallops a bunch of fucking different names and pick picks and pulls out of different things.   And   by the time he's done saying all of it, you can't go back and piece by piece start going, well, no. This is incorrect. This is incorrect. Marty did that actually to him. Marty actually did that. He's like, here. Here's what the whole thing says to you. Now look. We we  

[02:26:49] allen marcus:

praise that presentation.   Beautiful. We we recommended everyone go to Marty's channel and watch that great content.   When people   put out great content   and we like the content and they say it better than we could say it ourselves,   we direct them straight to the source. This is great.   Look at this content.   Spent a lot of time putting it together. Great job.   Put a put a video for five minutes explaining what would have taken us five hours to just go around and get to a main point.   Great. You simplified it. You got right to the point. I'm   well, I I forgot the Assassin's Creed. I wasn't able to recite it.  



[02:27:31] Unknown:

Marcus,   it has been requested for you to duck down six inches.   More specifically,   they would like to see the top of your head and see what is upon it or not upon it.  

[02:27:54] allen marcus:

I have a website.   There isn't a private member section because that's how private it is. If you wanna see my private It's like it's like more private than private.   It's it's more it's more secret than secret.   It's more intimate than a private membership   to Agnostic Academy.  

[02:28:17] Unknown:

Come on, Marcus. Numerous people wanna see whether you're wearing a hat   or you got hair. Are you balding like me and Steve?  

[02:28:26] allen marcus:

If you wanna see me in a yarmulke, I am a man.  

[02:28:30] Steve :

I've got him That is the bullshit and lies.  

[02:28:34] allen marcus:

I got him whipped on the roof. No pictures of you. Oh, would you look at the forehead  

[02:28:40] Steve :

on your website?   None.   Zero.  

[02:28:44] Unknown:

They're not even sure how big your forehead is. They're like, does he have a five head or six foot? So short on time tonight. This has been  

[02:28:52] allen marcus:

a great Tuesday night sermon   from the dog   face deliberating   dudes, the trinity   as we are known.  

[02:29:04] Steve :

Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck.  

[02:29:06] Unknown:

Then I would love to debate the trinity with somebody.  

[02:29:09] Steve :

Subscribe to our imaginary Patreon.  

[02:29:13] Unknown:

I would also debate   Brashear's   see, and that's the thing people don't understand is on this, it's okay to be   completely against this. You know, I would like frenemies, people I could actually associate with. Like, we're supposed to be having a debate with Jim Bob coming up,   when he quits hanging out with all the rich people down in Santa Barbara. And He's like, yeah. So but whatever. And he's all valuable. Yeah.   But,   Popular girls. He's hanging with the popular. Yeah. He's with the cool girls, all the all the porn girls,   like, and faggy j Dyer. Like but,   you know, I'd like people that I could somewhat, you you know, get along with and associate, but I got no problems with people I don't like either. Like, you bet. This is supposed to be hash out ideas. Maybe some people I won't care for right now. Oh, and sometimes even if I don't like the person, I'll agree with some shit they're saying. That's, you know, maybe they made a good point. I don't expect any out of him because he's just a dumb shit who, like,   pretends like he fucking read.  

Again, I did time in prison.   It's it's it's   let's start out with you can't just send any book into prison.   You have to have books directly from the publisher. You can't get them off eBay. They're aware that you could soak pages of books in different   substances and then sneak them in   or put things in the bindings. They're aware of all that, and they're not gonna bother taking the time   to do, like, chemical tests on books before they distribute them and all that. No. They just make it so you can't get a book that doesn't come from the publisher.   And let me tell you what, up until the last couple   years, books like,   the or not the kibalian,   that was   kind of decently printed, but it still wasn't in print.  

Any, like, books like the the,   Goetia and any type of heavy magical book, those weren't in print.   You couldn't get a new copy of them. And so unless it came from a publisher, you didn't get it. So that wasn't sitting around in prison. He was reading fucking shit like Anne Caffrey, like every other fucking prison book. You know, this is why, like, you hear me complain about things like having to read them fucking stupid,   Twilight series books, because I didn't have choices,   and I had nothing better to do. And it beats staring at a wall for the next nine hours. Well, no. It really didn't. I I would take the Twilight books back. Also, I would take back them Suki Stackhouse books.   Horrifying.  

Who the hell?   Why?   H HBO picked that up as a TV show?   Are you kidding me? Why?  

[02:32:03] Steve :

Why? We can do a whole show about it next week, Ben.  

[02:32:08] Unknown:

No. No. If I could if I could do, like, the Hogwarts thing where they, like, and just remove those from my memory, I would. Okay. But we gotta go. Steve's gotta go. If you wanna hear the out show, listen to it on last week's  

[02:32:23] allen marcus:

episode   that was   34   on Rumble to hear the pony   outro version if you wanna ride into the sunset.   Heck, yeah. With a couple of dudes.   We'll I'm all wrapped up.  

[02:32:38] Steve :

We'll see you next week, everybody.  

[02:32:41] Unknown:

So the top of your head, Marcus.   He's Make the people happy. You didn't say please.