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Unfiltered Insights: "Dog-Faced Dudes Deliberate" Explores Chaos, Culture, and Candor

From institutional distrust and technological ethics to media manipulation and societal transformations, no topic is off-limits. In 38 The hosts tackle:

• Cultural and Political Commentary: Performative activism, whistleblower skepticism, and insider trading among politicians
• Ethics and Philosophy: Cloning, bioethics, and the commodification of life
• Pop Culture and Nostalgia: Movies like Army of Darkness and Jurassic Park, and bands like Fun Lovin' Criminals and Bloodhound Gang
• Gender and Sexuality: Same-sex parenting, transgender issues, and modern gender dynamics
• Occult and Esoterica: Symbolism, power, and control
• Homesteading and Rural Life: Farm life, animal husbandry, and vegetarianism vs. meat-eating
• Media Distrust and Deepfake Technology: AI-generated media and manipulation of public perception
• Orthodoxy and Modern Religion: "Ortho Bros" and the rise of Russian Orthodoxy
• Adoption and Family Structures: Same-sex parenting, adoption, and raising children with disabilities

(00:00:01) Introduction and Icebreaker

(00:00:45) Time Traveling Adventures and Future Predictions

(00:01:19) Nostalgia and Pop Culture References

(00:02:24) Ricky Lake and Daytime TV Memories

(00:03:31) Talk Shows and Teenage Memories

(00:04:00) Introducing Allen Marcus and His Wizardry

(00:05:20) Anniversaries and Personal Celebrations

(00:06:18) Music Trivia and Fun Facts

(00:07:56) Comparing Music Styles and Bands

(00:10:07) Bloodhound Gang and Fun Loving Criminals

(00:12:28) Dog Chasing Adventures and Nature Stories

(00:16:01) Homesteading and Farm Life

(00:18:48) Animal Behavior and Farm Challenges

(00:20:08) Ticketmaster and Event Experiences

(00:21:04) Magic Words and Movie References

(00:25:06) Occult Books and Ancient Knowledge

(00:28:28) Cloning and Ethical Discussions

(00:32:08) Summoning Demons and Folklore

(00:35:45) Cultural Commentary and Social Norms

(00:38:01) Relationships and Gender Dynamics

(00:41:02) Crazy Relationships and Personal Anecdotes

(00:44:45) Podcasting and Content Creation

(00:47:04) Political Commentary and Insider Trading

(00:51:03) David Hogg and Political Strategies

(00:55:19) Sports and Celebrity Encounters

(01:00:01) Cultural Shifts and Social Commentary

(01:04:00) Project Veritas and Undercover Journalism

(01:09:01) Gun Control and Political Battles

(01:12:19) Adoption and Family Dynamics

(01:18:31) Ethical Dilemmas and Social Issues

(01:24:02) Farm Life and Animal Husbandry

(01:28:28) Cloning Ethics and Scientific Advances

(01:32:51) Genetic Engineering and Designer Babies

(01:36:15) Pet Ownership and Cloning Controversies

(01:41:04) Homesteading and Sustainable Living

(01:46:58) Traditionalism and Modern Life

(01:52:03) Legal Recognition and Same-Sex Parenting

(01:59:19) Social Dynamics and Gender Roles

(02:03:03) Hot Crazy Matrix and Relationship Advice

(02:09:01) Orthodox Religion and Masculinity

(02:15:01) Cultural Commentary and Social Dynamics

(02:21:01) Podcasting and Content Creation

(02:27:01) Social Media and Online Personas

(02:33:01) Cultural Shifts and Social Commentary

(02:39:01) Orthodox Religion and Masculinity

(02:45:01) Cultural Commentary and Social Dynamics

(02:51:01) Podcasting and Content Creation

(02:57:01) Social Media and Online Personas

(03:03:01) Cultural Shifts and Social Commentary

(03:09:01) Orthodox Religion and Masculinity

(03:15:01) Cultural Commentary and Social Dynamics

(03:21:01) Podcasting and Content Creation

(03:27:01) Social Media and Online Personas

(03:33:01) Cultural Shifts and Social Commentary

(03:39:01) Orthodox Religion and Masculinity

(03:45:01) Cultural Commentary and Social Dynamics

(03:51:01) Podcasting and Content Creation

(03:57:01) Social Media and Online Personas

(04:03:01) Cultural Shifts and Social Commentary

(04:09:01) Orthodox Religion and Masculinity

(04:15:01) Cultural Commentary and Social Dynamics

(04:21:01) Podcasting and Content Creation

(04:27:01) Social Media and Online Personas

- Allen Marcus

- Steve

- Benjamin Balderson

- Flow Dusty

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Kung Fu vs. Hockey: A Cultural Showdown
Cloning, Culture, and Controversy: A Deep Dive
From Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to Modern Identity Politics
The Ethics of Cloning and Same-Sex Parenting
Pop Culture, Politics, and the Quest for Identity


In this episode, we dive into a whirlwind of topics ranging from humorous anecdotes about ICE agents and kung fu to a deep dive into the cultural and societal implications of cloning and modern relationships. We explore the comedic and absurd aspects of pop culture references, including a playful discussion about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and 90s talk shows like Ricky Lake and Donahue. The conversation takes a turn into more serious territory as we discuss the ethics of cloning, the impact of modern politics on personal freedoms, and the societal shifts towards traditionalism and conservatism.

[00:00:02] Unknown:

You win.   Four ICE agents,   and   two of them were Asian   because of DEI politics.   And   so they knew kung fu,   but they didn't realize that Steve knows hockey,  

[00:00:34] Benjamin Balderson:

and that obviously defeats kung fu. It took a lot out of me, but glad to be here, and I will do anything for one   specific Mexican.  

[00:00:46] Allen Marcus:

Truth be told, we were time traveling.   We saw the future,   and we have things to say about it. Yeah. Yep. The future includes shrunken Sally Jesse Raphael glasses.   I don't have a for sale.  

[00:01:08] Unknown:

God, that you aged us horribly well with that.   That's like a niche  

[00:01:12] Benjamin Balderson:

joke you made right there. I know our audience. I do. I do. I know who I'm talking to. That they'll get it.  

[00:01:20] Allen Marcus:

Those are the, female,   Ninja Turtles, the, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,   Sally, Jesse, Raphael. And who is the,   the fourth one or the fifth one? Ricky Lake.  

[00:01:31] Benjamin Balderson:

Ricky Lake is the fourth Ninja Turtle. Named  

[00:01:35] Allen Marcus:

Gabbana.   And what was the name of the female? Turtaldo was definitely the rat. That's for sure.   Geraldo the rat.  

[00:01:44] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. Yeah. Ricky Lake. Ricky Lake was the fourth Ninja Turtle.  

[00:01:50] Allen Marcus:

April O'Neil   is in my notes. She's the woman wearing the yellow latex outfit. Oh, yeah. She's the newly newly black  

[00:02:00] Benjamin Balderson:

reporter.  

[00:02:01] Allen Marcus:

Okay.  

[00:02:02] Unknown:

Yeah. I really hate Ricky Lake too.   Freaking   I'm I'm that perfect age. And when I for a while, I worked at Interstate Detroit Diesel.   And   we got two stations.   One of the stations   played the for a year straight, played the damn OJ Simpson trial. Who gives a fuck   about this dude?   And the other channel was Ricky Lake. Well, a whole lunchroom full of mechanics isn't watching Ricky Lake. That's just not happening.   You're like, so now we're stuck watching the OJ Simpson trial. These were the fastest eating meals in that lunch room. You just   go sit somewhere else. You're like,   uh-uh. Uh-uh.  

Don't wanna watch that shit. Don't care.   It's horrible.  

[00:02:52] Benjamin Balderson:

I, I remember   one specific   Ricky Lake episode,   and they had she had on these, like,   ghetto ass high school kids,   and they were singing   a song   about a camel toe.   I'm I'm not I'm not making this up. I wonder   I I wonder if I could find it.  

[00:03:22] Unknown:

Well, and remember that Donahue was supposed to be, like, the higher minded talk show like that, but he's got on, like, Marilyn Manson before it Marilyn Manson's a thing. Donahue was the man, dude. He was the freaking man.  

[00:03:36] Allen Marcus:

My mom loved that shit. Donahue. That's an Ninja Turtle name. Right? Donahue.  

[00:03:42] Benjamin Balderson:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:03:45] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:03:46] Allen Marcus:

I've got a lot of notes about female turtles.   I don't know if we'll get to all of them tonight. I think I've exhausted my Lilith notes.   How rude of me. I haven't even introduced myself.  

[00:04:00] Unknown:

Are you here for it now with different glasses?  

[00:04:03] Allen Marcus:

Yes. Hi.   I am thankful for human life.   You can call me thankful for short   or Alan Marcus for tall.  

[00:04:14] Benjamin Balderson:

And what are your pronouns?   Thankful.  

[00:04:19] Allen Marcus:

Wizard   be heard. I'm a computer wizard.  

[00:04:23] Benjamin Balderson:

Are you gonna switch glasses every seventeen minutes?  

[00:04:27] Allen Marcus:

This is how,   part of the wizardry of clipping things if I change Well, I got some shit with goldfish in it, motherfucker. Try me.   Yeah. So if I just change visual things, then it makes the editing easier when I scrub through the timeline.  

[00:04:43] Benjamin Balderson:

Time stamps.  

[00:04:44] Allen Marcus:

Yeah. You change glasses every every segue. Every topic. Alright. Every character. That sort of thing. Brilliant.  

[00:04:52] Unknown:

Oh, this is sounding like a challenge. How many pairs of glasses does Marcus have? Not gonna find this on other shows, ladies and gentlemen. You're you're just not knew a guy  

[00:05:01] Allen Marcus:

in college who was,   in broadcasting, and his   shtick   was he would take his glasses off   and give them to someone else. They would wear them, and he'd take a selfie   of someone else wearing his glasses.  

[00:05:18] Benjamin Balderson:

Okay.  

[00:05:21] Unknown:

Oh, and and tonight, a big happy anniversary to my wife. Happy birthday.   Most amazing   person on the planet.  

[00:05:32] Allen Marcus:

I saw that on the Benjamin Balderson YouTube channel.  

[00:05:35] Unknown:

Yes.  

[00:05:41] Benjamin Balderson:

I What are you what are you eating, Daphne?  

[00:05:46] Allen Marcus:

Probably Scooby Snacks. Right?  

[00:05:49] Benjamin Balderson:

Fred.  

[00:05:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Don't rob banks getting all hopped up on them.   I've heard about that. It's nothing but trouble.  

[00:05:59] Allen Marcus:

Oh, we're a bit early yet.  

[00:06:02] Benjamin Balderson:

That's a that's not even a terrible song.  

[00:06:08] Unknown:

If you're gonna date us, I'm gonna too.  

[00:06:11] Benjamin Balderson:

I did. I'd look.   Go, Ricky. Go, Ricky.   Do you remember the the name of the band that did the Scooby Snacks song?  

[00:06:24] Unknown:

Bloodhound Gang.  

[00:06:26] Benjamin Balderson:

You are in although that is a fantastic guess   and and one that I totally understand.   It is the fun loving criminals.  

[00:06:39] Allen Marcus:

Fun loving criminals. Oh, yeah.  

[00:06:41] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was their their one hit wonder. It really does kinda it it feels like   that should be   a Bloodhound Gang song. It does. It does. I really always thought it was.  

[00:06:54] Unknown:

Yeah. You know, it's not like I went searching for it ever or owned it, but I I just assumed.  

[00:07:01] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. No. I mean, well, we if you if you juxtapose,   that particular song   and then, you know,   any random   well, I mean, we could prove this. We could that that it is similar.   In the interest of fair use, I'm I'm not gonna play the the whole   song, but we'll at least make it to the chorus.   It's like   a '93   Osmobile that he was getting out of originally.  

[00:07:40] Allen Marcus:

Some boxes of flowers, it appears. Long boxes.  

[00:07:45] Benjamin Balderson:

Don't front all my cutler's.  

[00:07:57] Allen Marcus:

Was this on   a Quonton   Tarantino  

[00:08:01] Benjamin Balderson:

film? No. They just emptied  

[00:08:04] Unknown:

it. I'm tired.  

[00:08:08] Allen Marcus:

So these guys are able to stay in full.   Is that the guitar Marty played   back to the future? Oh.   What the fuck?  

[00:08:34] Benjamin Balderson:

No. He played like a bright red AS three earlier. It's something like that, didn't he? Nothing happened.  

[00:08:47] Unknown:

I remember seeing this rap a lot. When admittedly just There's a ring glasses   on.  

[00:08:57] Benjamin Balderson:

They   all look like   fucking insured. They all look like Trevor Moore.  

[00:09:07] Unknown:

That's a good idea. I like that. Alright. Here's the   song.  

[00:09:16] Allen Marcus:

Robin Banks   whacked up on screws.   Scrooge. I think that's the   a  

[00:09:28] Unknown:

good amount. Beating fucking the crowd, man. I'm still Alright. Straight. So sort of, yeah, it's kind of that wrap rock a little bit kinda talking. Kinda sad. I don't remember it being that rap ish, but like I said, it was,   something I only really ever heard when I was at the bar, I guess.   And   I'm not a good drinker.   It's the reason I didn't do that very long.  

[00:09:52] Benjamin Balderson:

So okay. So we're gonna compare and contrast with the Bloodhound gang. Right?   Because that was and and I I agree. It would be really, really easy   to, you know,   to swap it.   I do.  

[00:10:11] Unknown:

Look vaguely the same.  

[00:10:13] Benjamin Balderson:

I could not pick them out. Definitely went to the same barber.  

[00:10:17] Unknown:

Yeah.   You're wearing the same outfits, basically.  

[00:10:29] Benjamin Balderson:

Wait. Are we not doing lyrics?   How are we not doing lyrics? Alright. Okay. So we'll go to the one with the boobies on it then. I was trying to see three rules for providing a real world assault. I was. Rule number one. That there are people with Christian eyes and ears. There we go.  

[00:10:51] Unknown:

That's not even a real person anyways. Right. I'm a get one I was lonelier than Kuntan. At a Merle Haggard concert that night. I strolled on into uncle Limpy's home palace looking for love.   It had been a while.   In fact,   03/1965   It's a real song. Since that midnight run haul in Hogshakeytown   on I 10.   I I I insane. I I just that's   crazy dude cut offs offs and one of those frugal tank tops.   Well,   that night, I lost myself to ruby red lips,   milky white skin, and baby blue eyes.   My name was Russell.   Yes. The lap dance is so much   better when the stripper is crying.  

Crying. Yes. The lap dance is so much better when the stripper is crying.   Well, I find it's quite a thrill   when she prides me against her will.   Yes. The laugh  

[00:12:04] Benjamin Balderson:

And that's a bloodhound gang. Why? Yeah. I do. So disturbing.  

[00:12:09] Unknown:

So disturbing. You have to be at a bar to listen to that and not just cringe.  

[00:12:15] Benjamin Balderson:

Granted, most pop music is Dude, Ben, if you haven't if you haven't heard that song all the way through, it it's some it's a sit through. It is, man. It is. It's a sit down, sit through?   Oh, and shit. You'll find this,   amusing.   Gomez has a   couple of cuts and scrapes and bruises   on his stupid little puppy face   and his little puppy arms   because we were out yesterday,   you know, just fucking stomping around the woods a little bit.   And   I watched him take a sharp left   across, like, a little offshoot   on the trail main trail that we were walking on.   And then   I hear, like,   some   rustling,   and then I see his   whole little puppy ass and tail   going   the this way   instead of this way the way that it normally is. It it was it was this way. From parallel to the ground to perpendicular?  

And and so now his his little his little fucking   club   of a fucking tail   is pointed mostly up because   at the end of the trail, it's like a ravine that goes, I don't know, sixteen, twenty feet down into the creek   bed, and then it goes about another, like, thirty, thirty five feet up on the opposite   side. And so as his little puppy ass is in the air, I see   on the uphill   side of the ravine,   a big fat mama deer   clambering up it.   I'm like,   oh.   So about three and a half seconds later,   on the almost vertical up, I see Gomez   going and chasing this fucking and, dude, it's seriously   another   I don't   know, better part of a   four tenths of a mile, almost a half mile   to where the trail goes around the bend to where you could get to the other side of the fucking because on you know, until then, it's just   20 feet down, 35 feet up,   30 feet up.  

Yeah. The whole freaking way across.   And so I start, like,   I, you know, kind of hauling ass.  

[00:14:55] Unknown:

Alright. Steve style.  

[00:14:57] Benjamin Balderson:

You know? I mean, yeah, I got a I got a good bad leg. I don't really run.   Right? Bristly limping.  

[00:15:08] Unknown:

He doesn't really move any faster, but his body kinda jiggles back and forth more. There's more Right. Yeah.   Yeah. It's like it's like he's like the Barry Sanders of running. There's much there's as much side to side as there is forward.  

[00:15:23] Benjamin Balderson:

I juked   the forest right out of its fucking socks. I did. Yeah. Had no idea what was coming towards it or around it.   Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. It took, like, a full freaking   ten minutes before I finally caught up to him, and he was just,   I mean, covered in   cuts and scrapes and stuff like that. And Tom, just   When we finally got back here, he slept for, like, five hours.   Just  

[00:16:01] Unknown:

So for spring, because my my garden settled so much,   clear down below, we've been going and getting dirt   on one of these, government repossessed places that they're gonna have to knock these beds apart because they got them,   abatements on them. And that's to get the abatement off or whatever.   And it's a it's a good jog down there.   And the first day, they loved it. The second day,   that was pretty alright. By the third day, half the time, they'll, like, look to see how far I'm going. I'll turn around and go the fuck home. They're like,   no. No. It's it's too far.  

It's too far. Today,   so two days ago, the bulls got too damn horny,   and they literally   broke through,   right.   They literally broke through the fence into the cow pen.   And so first thing I did was I'd already been wanting to just change it to a bullpen and and   put the cows out   and, because it's such nice grass and whatnot right now, and then the calves can go eat and whatnot. Mhmm. And,   so I did that, and it it it worked out good. I didn't even actually have to have Brian there.   I got her down by myself. They did. They were pretty good about it.   And,   they,   balls broke out in one night. They're like, no, motherfucker.  

No.   They broke out one night.   And so,  

[00:17:38] Allen Marcus:

it it  

[00:17:41] Unknown:

I've this morning, went looking, so there's just nothing I can do about this at this point. It is what it is. I gotta go get electric fence or something.   And,   but the bulls in there, they went after the cows. But once they get get the job done, they settle right down. And the calves are big enough, they stayed away from it.   It's been real interesting when they were,   all about Lola. The calves hung out with Chaney.   And when   now this today, they're all all about Chaney, and the cast are hanging out with Lola.   So,   I went clear down below and had to go searching around to find him, though.  

And   even Bubba, who normally he can actually keep up with me on the on the side by side.   We got past the we went all the way down below, went and checked all the properties. By the time we got back up and started going to go up to the upper properties,   he saw the road home, and he said,   I'm out.   That's enough.   I'm tapping.   Yeah. He's not a pit bull, so he don't wear out that easy. Like, that's hilarious. He that Gomez chased a deer because Gomez has somehow a negative chance of catching the deer. He really does.  

[00:19:00] Benjamin Balderson:

I I don't even know what he did. He'd try to fucking get it to go fucking chase a ball with him if he caught one too.  

[00:19:08] Allen Marcus:

So we could release an album of folk songs sung by Gomez. It could be And not only are you gonna   not catch the deer, you're gonna hurt yourself. And I apologize, Marcus. It's the club tail at the end of the trail. You can cut me off anytime.  

[00:19:23] Unknown:

Old friend. No. That's my bad.  

[00:19:26] Allen Marcus:

That's my bad. I'm sorry. It it's alright. I mean, we don't have an umpire here, but I did catch the baseball reference earlier to the bullpen. So I think I'm, over two on that, and I don't know what my ERA is, but   my my credit score is probably   Yeah. Good good for,   a baseball ticket. If I could get to a a Ticketmaster, I could probably   buy a ticket. But have you tried to use Ticketmaster lately to purchase any tickets to live events? I have not. I have not. It is terrible.   It is terrible. Probably have a better chance of   finding the lost Gibson.  

I have a link to the search for the back to the future guitar.   Alright. Seems like a scam. Is that is that what this is? The Hollywood Reporter link. Yeah.  

[00:20:11] Unknown:

What's up, Powder Dusty?   Pull You gotta do a show later? You wanna come in right now and fuck around if you want? Oh, sure. Do that. Why not?   Throw throw a link down if he wants to come in. Not sure. Excuse me. Put it in the chat.  

[00:20:26] Allen Marcus:

This is this is the the world premiere  

[00:20:29] Unknown:

of the magic word phrase. I had his show the other night. I'm gonna be showing the link. It's some guy left, like, like,   set me up, like, gave me the alley oop,   you know, set me up perfect. I got a good one. It was great.  

[00:20:43] Allen Marcus:

So this will be the world premiere   of the magic word short. It's a short one. Here it is. It's just short.  

[00:20:52] Unknown:

But the only way we heal this land, because you people cannot do it alone,   is that I must go to these world leaders, Trump and and and the rest of them at the UN.   And I must tell them these magic words. I don't know what they are. And they will let me leave  

[00:21:10] Allen Marcus:

That's what.  

[00:21:13] Benjamin Balderson:

That's fucking evil dead, bro. That's evil dead. Pununa,  

[00:21:17] Unknown:

micoides, trichatum, sadus d.   No.   Bedknobs and broomsticks.   Oh, good news. I I didn't get that reference.   Habakkuk.   There   it   is.   Dude, that is so fire, Marcus,   which obviously, anybody that doesn't   know this, and and if you watch me, you you absolutely should know I don't have these capabilities in any way, shape, or form.   Obviously,   this is Alan Marcus, and you should go to his website and check out some of his other brilliant works.   That was fire. Wizardry.  

[00:22:07] Benjamin Balderson:

Back up off my freaking dinner, dawg. We can box.  

[00:22:12] Unknown:

Alright. Dusty said throw the link down there.  

[00:22:15] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. I did. I put it in the chat. I don't have a fancy blue wrench, so it didn't show up as a link. So you will have to Oh, my bad. Hold on. Let me make you a mod.  

[00:22:25] Allen Marcus:

I can do it.  

[00:22:27] Unknown:

Add his moderator. I got it.  

[00:22:29] Allen Marcus:

I got it in there.  

[00:22:31] Unknown:

I don't even know if it it showed up. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I added you as a moderator, Steve. My bad. Alright.  

[00:22:39] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. Because I dropped the link, I don't even know if it showed up in the chat.  

[00:22:44] Allen Marcus:

No. It looks like it was filled Oh, it's there now. It says? Okay. What's that? That's,  

[00:22:51] Unknown:

It's sugar what oh, fuck. Yeah. Sugar is what keeps fat on you, dude. That's that's no doubt.   The zero doubt on that. Like, when when   actually, this year,   we've really insanely cut back on treats.   And we had,   Sarah Sarah, if she's out shout out to Sarah g if she's out there. She stayed with us for a while.   She makes the most   rich, crazy, delectable   treats   that that desserts   that are just crazy.   And, oh, yeah. Gained a lot of weight from that.   Lot of weight. Like, the pants that I ordered from them right now,   if I move around too much, they'll come undone because my belt is so much tighter than my pants if they're all like, meh.  



[00:23:37] Benjamin Balderson:

My girl is Mexican, and she cooks like a motherfucker, and I am tubby right now.   And I do a lot of fucking bacon.  

[00:23:47] Allen Marcus:

Secret the secret to a long stream is to not wear pants while streaming.  

[00:23:51] Unknown:

What'd you think of Marcus' short?  

[00:23:54] Benjamin Balderson:

Way ahead of you, buddy.  

[00:23:55] Allen Marcus:

About what? Did you see the short? Marcus' short.  

[00:23:59] Flow Dusty:

I I didn't see it.   Sorry. I was I was Well,  

[00:24:03] Allen Marcus:

I'm we'll put it on the Benjamin Balderson YouTube channel, and then you can watch it over and over and over and over.  

[00:24:11] Unknown:

It's from your from your, show the other night when, Joe Cool was like, I don't know the magic words, and I busted out the army of darkness reference.  

[00:24:21] Flow Dusty:

I see. I'm backing it up. I'm listening to it. Give me a second.  

[00:24:24] Allen Marcus:

It's alright.   And the other phrase was from   bed knobs and broomsticks.  

[00:24:33] Benjamin Balderson:

I'm not that Oh, wait. Wait. Wait. It's been so long. Hang on. I don't I I didn't even watch it.   Okay.   Shit. I can't remember.   It's the substitutionary   locomotion   song. Right? That is it. Okay. So why the fuck do I remember that, but I don't remember the goddamn magic words? This is,   gonna bug the shit out of me. I remember the back half of it, but not the front half of it.   So maddening. Go ahead. Tell me. And then I'm gonna go, like, all the way out to the freaking coast and   punch a fucking sea lion in the face for living just because I forgot this shit.  

[00:25:21] Allen Marcus:

Obviously, taking the left handed path approach to things.   Oh, let's see. Produce a homunculus   while you're at it.  

[00:25:35] Benjamin Balderson:

Which is what? Harry Poppins too. Right?  

[00:25:41] Allen Marcus:

Hold a bad home road.  

[00:25:45] Flow Dusty:

That that whole You weirdos were probably actually saying magic words too, weren't you?  

[00:25:50] Unknown:

Yeah. So so,   this is an interesting subject that actually behind the scenes, Marcus is and I have already been talking about. And I know you're you're into the occult stuff   and the old school like Hollywood,   whatnot.   So in this,   invasion of the body snatchers, was that the name of it?   This alien ship comes in, and this is a night stood still. What the day the earth stood still. That's right. That's right. The remake was Keanu Reeves. Yeah. Not the remake. The 1951   original.   So this alien comes and basically freezes the whole Earth.   And then,   finally, somebody has to go up and say the magic words.  

And the alien's name is actually Klaatu.   And then there's a bunch of different, you know, obviously, arguments about what,   Barata Niktu   means. And so then   is this an actual occult phrase?   Because   then or or are the movies after that, like army of darkness,   which is where I first heard the the reference,   because that's what he has to say before he picks up the Necronomicon   so that way it doesn't wake the army of the dead, which is why it was hilarious why Joe said he'd go going in front of congress and everything else. So I'm like, well, of course, you gotta fucking say the word the magic words before,  

[00:27:12] Flow Dusty:

you know? Yeah. I didn't I didn't get the reference. I assume that you were just actually saying some magic words.  

[00:27:17] Unknown:

No. It's from army of darkness, and it's it's a horse a spoofy horror movie. There was three movies, evil dead, evil dead two,   and army of darkness. And   that that's the words he has to say so that way it doesn't wake the army of darkness. And fucking   and that and so it's it was a hilarious reference at the moment. It was, like, just teeing me up right there.   I do   know other phrases.   I do know other phrases like Joe Cool fucking got all weird about books and, like,   squirrel   going off our books. Where is where is my There goes the ADD. Is there a squirrel in the bookshop? He got he got all weird about the having, like he's, like, $600   for a book. What the hell? Like, anything that's super crazy old in a cult, like, obsession and possession by spirits, both good and evil. He's, like, why would you have, like, the Goetia if if you've if you don't intend to use it? Fucking   I also don't intend on being possessed by a spirit,   good or evil.  



[00:28:26] Flow Dusty:

Like, like He probably didn't doesn't understand the, the market for old books like that.  

[00:28:32] Unknown:

Right. And and and then just the cult stuff. Like Right. Because he's not even If you don't understand that that market exists,  

[00:28:39] Flow Dusty:

then spending $600 on a book   of spell. That does sound sorta I get where your buzz are coming from, but I also have expensive books.  

[00:28:48] Unknown:

Right. Well, like like the Galicia. I'm not a Christian,   but supposedly,   this is what,   King Solomon's got two books. The more famous of the two is the Galicia,   which is it's the the greater key and the lesser key. That the Goetia is just like this tiny. I think it was, like, right next to right in this area. This one is where my old ass books are. Okay.   Grammy Dante's Inferno.   Like and then they're like, why would you pay for that? Because the originals have, like, Dante is the big ass one sticking out. Dante's Inferno because that's got the huge,   pictures in it. That's one of the that's one of the big things, especially   like, look at this. This is Dante's  

[00:29:32] Benjamin Balderson:

Been not Dante's Inferno has a map and a brochure.  

[00:29:35] Unknown:

Yeah. It's Alright. Show me your Most people don't realize that this is most of people's,   idea of Christian hell comes directly from Dante's Inferno.   And if you don't get the first edition,   the old ass ones, then they make changes in them. And in the cult books, that that makes a huge difference. There's that even that Johnny Depp,   flick.   What was it called? Like, seven gates or something like that where they put together that just   just this different pictures,   and these are crazy.   These on these older books, so freaking detailed. So detailed.  

[00:30:15] Allen Marcus:

Look at these monkeys on a shelf.   I think a copy of Jumanji   is probably more desired. Look at Marcus.   Your book. Also, I have Pilgrim's Progress, but that's downstairs   because I have multiple libraries   in my   estate.  

[00:30:37] Benjamin Balderson:

So I have I'm not sure if I can show the protocols of the elders of of Zion on My libraries have libraries. That's how many libraries I have access to.   That's fantastic.  

[00:30:50] Unknown:

But, yeah, the Goetia supposedly   So King Solomon was was,   according to their stuff, the wisest, most powerful,   awesome   king that's ever lived. He's and he was given dominion over,   legions of angels and demons.   And supposedly, the Goetia   was the symbology,   and it's super fascinating to look at because it looks like electrical circuitry.   And, honestly, if you look get this book, you see where so many other things   have taken from that and then incorporated it and tried to pawn that off as old occult. And you can literally, like, almost piecemeal match it to pieces of the Goetia.   But this is how he controlled the demon side, the the legions of demons, and it's the different sigils. And then it even has instructions.  

Like, if you're speaking to this demon, you need to have this sigil made out of lead on you, and you need to stand on your left foot because then it can't lie,   weird shit like that,   which doesn't mean I wanna go hang out and talk to demons or anything. But, again, there's a try it, though. Do they mention anything about a full length leather trench coat?  

[00:32:04] Flow Dusty:

Yeah. You should try to summon one right now. It'd make a good content.  

[00:32:08] Benjamin Balderson:

Right. Right. Yeah. I know. Right. And then he does, but it just turns out it's Beyonce.  

[00:32:14] Allen Marcus:

We did.   We did. We did.  

[00:32:17] Unknown:

Country now because I would obviously want a golden fiddle from the one I was dealing with. Oh, that's a very good point. You deserve you deserve a golden fiddle. You can summon one.   Yeah. Which one did which one did Charlie Daniels deal with?  

[00:32:31] Benjamin Balderson:

Well, sure sure that's Yeah. Put me against that one. Is that is that for   shit?  

[00:32:39] Unknown:

He can sure wreck a bow, though.  

[00:32:41] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:32:44] Allen Marcus:

We don't have a fiddle. I got a guitar here. Check this link I'm trying to share on the screen.  

[00:32:49] Unknown:

There we go. Up. There's a Are you talking about cloning? What do you do with Limp Gibson good cars?  

[00:32:55] Allen Marcus:

Well, this is where the question is. How do we know that the original Gibson guitar that was used in the movie back to the future is the original?   How do we have the provenance  

[00:33:07] Benjamin Balderson:

of it being Didn't I tell you it was a freaking,   like, ES330   or something like didn't I say that? I'm pretty sure I did. Chat, fact check me on this one. Look at me.  

[00:33:17] Allen Marcus:

ES345.  

[00:33:20] Unknown:

Cherry red. 5. Alright. Okay. And he did say bright red. I I remember that. The other thing that I don't play guitar, so it has no meaning to me.   I'm not I'm not a musician. I don't even really know how to play the fiddle. I would you know, I've practiced a tiny bit, not not near enough to be   proficient or at all good. I can play notes.  

[00:33:40] Benjamin Balderson:

I have a a,   1972   Japanese,   Japanese made,   like,   reverse engineered   Gibson   guitar   hanging   right there. Right?   It's me touching it right now. Yeah.  

[00:34:01] Unknown:

Pervert.  

[00:34:02] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. That's right. I'm gonna stick my finger in the hole then.  

[00:34:07] Unknown:

That's why I'm down. Fan?  

[00:34:11] Benjamin Balderson:

There we go.   Attaboy.   Attaboy.  

[00:34:15] Allen Marcus:

You know, I was on the Hollywood Reporter because   Glenn Greenwald has a new movie or an old movie that was released. It was a bit of a short movie.  

[00:34:25] Benjamin Balderson:

Right. Right. Right. Right. Well, it it wasn't so much that Glenn Greenwald   released it, but the Israeli production company that held   the tape is the  

[00:34:38] Allen Marcus:

the the people that released that particular film. Who amongst us have has has seen the, Glenn Greenwald   film?  

[00:34:47] Unknown:

What's it called?  

[00:34:49] Benjamin Balderson:

It's called I Suck Toast part 358.  

[00:34:52] Unknown:

I Yeah. I did. I haven't seen that. Have you ever had your toes tucked? It's a strange experience.  

[00:34:57] Benjamin Balderson:

I I I have not. I have not. I live on a farm  

[00:35:02] Unknown:

and you you you go to your mouth anywhere near and I go barefoot fairly regular. Mhmm. And and I promise you there is shit on nearly any surface in this in this entire  

[00:35:14] Allen Marcus:

30 acres. That's that's what was shown in the Glenwall the Glenwall   Greenville   video of whatever his name is. I can't say it correctly. Of interracial   toe sucking. I was it Brazilian?  

[00:35:27] Benjamin Balderson:

Was it shot on location? Brazilian toes. Those toes are in the dirt playing soccer all day, Glenn. Come on, man.   Brazilian waxed toes. Washed them. Just that's all I want to know. By tongues   between the toes. Tell me you fucking dunked them little piggies in a bathy bath. Just just tell me that, Glenn. That's that's The the story of this film is  

[00:35:48] Allen Marcus:

okay. Here's the plot line.   An unseen figure   is commanding,   a green guy on his knees   as spit is put onto the ground, literally spit to the ground,   and Glenn is   deciding,   he's going to command obey his commander and lick the spit off of the the tile   from the  

[00:36:15] Benjamin Balderson:

ground. Is this guy is this guy trying to get famous, or is he already famous? He's already well, he's already well known. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One of them happened to be a Pulitzer   prize winning journalist   before,   the,   in my opinion,   incredibly limited release   of the Edward Snowden archive.  

[00:36:43] Unknown:

What whose spin is he licking up? It it  

[00:36:47] Benjamin Balderson:

random Brazilian.  

[00:36:49] Allen Marcus:

A Brazilian  

[00:36:50] Unknown:

man. And what's the purpose? Is there a stated purpose to this? I guess,  

[00:36:55] Benjamin Balderson:

funsies   and also the exchange exchange   of a currency.  

[00:37:00] Allen Marcus:

Memories, I think.   It's a vacation  

[00:37:03] Benjamin Balderson:

because it was recorded.   So, I mean, memories were definitely part of the the program.   Yeah.  

[00:37:11] Unknown:

So this is supposed to be, like, on that Viking show where the seer licks the dude's palm and shit and tells the   it's supposed to be something like that?  

[00:37:19] Benjamin Balderson:

No. I I think it was much more for,   gratification   of a sexual nature rather   than seeing the future via   toe oracle,   I guess.   It's weird to work.  

[00:37:34] Allen Marcus:

We're in the horny summer timeline   where all of the kind of   disgusting and degenerate stuff is not gonna be talked about in the news.   You know, PDT is great. Most degenerate  

[00:37:46] Unknown:

day, I would not have done that for the hottest chick on the planet.  

[00:37:53] Allen Marcus:

We understand that you are a straight white male.   You don't have to convince us any further. We believe you.  

[00:38:01] Unknown:

We just talked about you earlier, Sarah g.  

[00:38:04] Allen Marcus:

Glenn Greenwald on the other hand. That does protest too much, Balderson.   Mhmm.   So there's a guy who   was named,   Snowed Inn, you know, like Snow Crash,   cyberpunk novel snow crash when you're snowed in. What's the color of   television tuned to a dead channel?   You know, when, you have twenty years on your television and you got the status, And it's sort of this dead snow staticky   gray black sort of thing.   Visual white noise? Visual white noise. That's kind of where we're at. Yep.  

[00:38:43] Unknown:

And and, Dusty,   I would feel more   called out by that, but you and I both know that the ultra hot ones, they want some dude to degrade them. They aren't the ones doing the degrading.  

[00:38:54] Benjamin Balderson:

Well, I mean, you gotta you gotta   that.   Once you've been flown out to Dubai   so that the,   you know, oil bearing class can use you as a toilet.   Yeah. Once you come back to   freaking   what, what are you gonna do? Go back to   work at a Jamba Juice?   You know? Like, that's not   it's it's not on the menu. It's not. You you gotta go out there.   And find yourself a world class pisser, Ben. You do. You do.  

[00:39:31] Unknown:

My best friend from high school still is a shock of me too.  

[00:39:38] Allen Marcus:

Summer job at Jack.  

[00:39:42] Unknown:

Fair. I wanna hear I wanna hear   Dusty   admit to the point.  

[00:39:48] Flow Dusty:

That the hot ones like to be degraded?  

[00:39:50] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:39:55] Flow Dusty:

I don't think that's universal.   Here's what here's the only universal I'll give you. This is the closest thing to universal I'll give you. All   chicks, not even just the all of them   like to be choked.  

[00:40:09] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. That's weird. Right? That's fair. That's fair. But they're all crazy.  

[00:40:13] Unknown:

You know? Also fair. Also fair.  

[00:40:17] Benjamin Balderson:

Varying degrees.   And I do think that the one of   the many keys   to a happy and successful and long relationship   is finding somebody that, like, pairs   with your   particular   brand   of crazy.  

[00:40:36] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:40:37] Benjamin Balderson:

You know? Like, it it can't be opposing   crazy. That's when dishes get broken after they   crash against stuff because girls can't throw.   Like, that's you know, it's there's  

[00:40:52] Unknown:

That is the question. Around. That is the best sex. That's the problem.  

[00:40:56] Benjamin Balderson:

No. You want me to choke back, Ben? Sometimes you gotta pin that off.  

[00:41:02] Unknown:

Women have You know the guys that are addicted to that? Because every time they get out on parole, they they go back to prison, like, three months later, and they're and you're like, what happened?   Well, got together with blondie   again.   And you say you're never going after that to keep getting you sent to prison. Like   Yeah.  

[00:41:25] Flow Dusty:

But the the crazy ones are also the ones that keep taking you back in. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're both crazy. No doubt. Mhmm. The the Venn diagram  

[00:41:34] Benjamin Balderson:

of the crazy ones and women whose   whose first name ends in the letter I   is a circle.   It's a circle. Just a   straight yeah. Brandy with an I? Oh, dude.  

[00:41:48] Unknown:

Yeah.   Oh, god.   See, I married I married a a good girl, and   she treats me like a king, and she's she makes the whole world better. And so I do everything I can for   her, and fuck that other shit. They're all bat shit.   Mine's crazy too, but it's it's okay. Like Steve said, I can deal with it.   It it it works with me.   She needed at least a little bit of it to come live this life. Well, it's fair. That's fair.   Right. Literally, not not not only are animals shitting everywhere.   Like, we just went through the time period where I literally go go around and collect as much as I can and put it right in the yard. And then I take a giant,   cement mixer, and I fill that with fresh manure that I can get and just start chucking stuff into it. It's just like a it's it's like a glade,   a giant glade.  

Air freshen. Air freshener,   like,   of manure.  

[00:42:52] Allen Marcus:

Well, I was thinking Florida, like Everglades.   It's kind of a different   swamp.   And in terms of draining the swamp and getting into politics, I think you gotta be a little bit crazy to wanna get into   reporting, and I don't know exactly how Glenn Greenwald got   wrangled   into did he travel to a different country outside The USA to meet with an Edward Snowden   in 2013?  

[00:43:22] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. But, well, I think he was already in or on his way to Brazil as a permanent resident at that point   in his career anyway.   Sure. Yeah. Again, dude, my my biggest   my biggest gripe with that whole well,   I guess,   a couple that sort of dovetail.   Out of all of, you know, the information   on the Snowden tapes and and   the intercept maintained a Snowden archive   before a very long time before they permanently removed it,   only 5%   was ever given to   the public.   Now you can think what you want to about the whole Snowden thing. There's a a fair case to be made that that was in and of itself,   a disclosure   operation as opposed to any sort of public revelation   whistleblower thing. And that's that's fair. The   what I'm doing right now is is talking about Greenwald's   role   and the intercepts role.  

And and number 95%   of the information was withheld.   That's not great.   Just on its face. That's not great.   Number two,   the intercept   has a long and storied history   way before   Glenn Greenwald   packed up his purse and, you know, cleared out his desk and and left,   a burning whistleblowers.   And   there there are   a handful   and by handful, I mean at least five,   you know, whistleblowers   who went to the intercept   and got   just free   almost immediately   rolled up on.   And then most of them spent a fair amount of time behind bars or,   wound up, you know, were on YouTube,   stepping on a rainbow   that they, you know, went and chose to leap on themselves,   stuff like that.  

Pierre Omidyar,   finances, color revolutions   all over the world. This is like a documented   thing.  

[00:45:51] Allen Marcus:

So Pierre Omidvar   along with Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald And Jeremy Scahill.   And Jeremy Scahill   in 2014   founded something called The Intercept.  

[00:46:05] Benjamin Balderson:

On the   backbone   of the Snowden tapes. So in 2013,  

[00:46:12] Allen Marcus:

they published the Snowden's   leaks in The Guardian,   revealing the the mass surveillance by the NSA.  

[00:46:19] Unknown:

So based on what they had the Pulitzer Prize. Yeah. So they so they had, like, the the exclusive  

[00:46:25] Benjamin Balderson:

on the release of those tapes. Is that what we're saying? Yeah. The exclusive So Snowden gave the tapes to Glenn Greenwald   in this, like,   overly complex   movie   esque   dead drop   sort of,   like, cat and mouse thing through Rio,   I think. It's been a long time since I've,  

[00:46:49] Allen Marcus:

I've had to talk about this. Yeah. It's kind of a messy thing. We're talking about it today   because,   for context,   Glenn's   Twitter account   retweeted   this video.   This video is of a Brazilian based,   prominent US Journalist, Glenn Greenwald,   appearing   in, BDSM   Findom consensual blackmail video.  

[00:47:18] Benjamin Balderson:

It it it consensual blackmail.   How is that even blackmail?   If you don't pay me $10   in Brazilian money,   I'm not gonna let you suck these toes.   Or I'm gonna let you suck these toes,   but   if but I'm gonna tape it. And if you don't pay me the prearranged   fee,   I'm gonna   go ahead and tell like, I you know? I This one's a honeypot  

[00:47:47] Unknown:

situation?  

[00:47:49] Benjamin Balderson:

No, dude. It's a it's like a fetish thing   where where   people pay money   to do stuff that's, like,   humiliate   my my friend, Sugar,   that I host Blunt Force will wisdom with,   she used   to be,   she used to do this shit on, like I think it was on Kik back, like, way back in the day.   And dudes would pay her   to   humiliate   them.   We lost Powder Dusty.  

[00:48:26] Unknown:

I probably went over to go do his own thing.  

[00:48:29] Benjamin Balderson:

On the Glenn Greenwald sucks toes.  

[00:48:33] Unknown:

His channel is the Powder Dusty. There you go. Dusty.   And   he he tends to run real late at night,   also, and,   goes on Tuesday usually at about seven or eight. So   Right. We we A lot of times, I'll go over there. If you if you wanna   see, he's one of the channels that I'll go chat around at. I  

[00:48:57] Allen Marcus:

He was confirming   that the sequence of events, which led Balderson   to   share the magic words were in fact   true.   That that sequence of events was not manipulated   or changed.   The fact is   this was brought up in conversation as you're seeing the reel,   and   Balderson unmutes his microphone   to speak the magic words and then mutes his microphone afterwards.   The audience to the powder dusty   stream was able to then revel in the revelation of the magic words, and they were able to identify   them as being from   a movie called  

[00:49:40] Unknown:

Army of darkness. Army of darkness.  

[00:49:44] Allen Marcus:

And then another panelist   said the magic words, trigunum,   mecoides,   trichorium,   status d   from bedknobs and broomsticks,   and I will add   novus   ordo seclorum.  

[00:50:00] Benjamin Balderson:

Sure.   Sure.  

[00:50:02] Unknown:

I I don't know this one. My kids, apparently, I'm assuming this is a children's movie, and my kids were not of that.   It it's interesting because you can always tell kinda   generationally how how what parents their kids were at. They raised kids during whatever generation.   Like,   you know, whether it was Barney or Teletubbies   or I I got lucky with my youngest too. My my daughter like power,   Powerpuff Girls, which really wasn't that bad of a cartoon. It was kind of amusing.   And my son liked Dragon Ball z.  

[00:50:37] Benjamin Balderson:

Alright.   My daughter is No. Disney jumped on the whole, like,   VCR thing early.   And so when your parents went to the video store,   right, to go rent   movies,   to bring them back,   as you used to do   back in the late nineteenth century.   Yeah. The bedknobs and broomsticks on on the list for sure. Apple dumpling gang for sure   on the list. Well, some some Don Knotts   for that ass.  

[00:51:18] Unknown:

My kids are older than my youngest kids are older than Steve's oldest kids. No. Yeah.  

[00:51:25] Benjamin Balderson:

No. No. I mean, when I was growing up, that that's what that's what it was. Like, that that's where I watched   some bad knobs and and broomsticks.   And that was,   what was that Angela Lansbury?  

[00:51:39] Allen Marcus:

I   think so.  

[00:51:41] Benjamin Balderson:

And then the dad from   Mary Poppins   was in it and some brats,   because, you know, Disney   for sure. But, like, London or were they London orphans? Were they just outside kids? I can't remember.  

[00:51:59] Allen Marcus:

I I'm not sure, and I'm not a father, so I'm not an expert on fatherhood. So I'll defer to you gentlemen as the fatherhood experts tonight.   I have some questions. Do you tell your children the story of   the limited hangout characters known as Edward Snowden,   Julian Assange, Daniel Ellsberg, and others?  

[00:52:21] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. The not genuine dissidents, but rather participants winning our unwitting got me free assign was, like, basically one of the heads of the free Assange movement for quite some time.  

[00:52:32] Benjamin Balderson:

Oh, yeah. I got wrapped up all in that shit for,   a number of years.  

[00:52:40] Unknown:

But I You're flying all over the place, yelling at people?  

[00:52:44] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. We we tended to talk less about individuals   and more about   systems   as far as that goes.  

[00:52:53] Unknown:

Well, I feel like he was a a setup similar to the way I feel where   Alex Jones   was just a a a shut up to the truth community   that would   anybody that would speak against the narrative.   Look.   Alex Jones is big powerful guy with all this money. He he got the bejesus suit out of him. He's never gonna own anything again in his life. And, yes, there are people that still follow him that know, but compared to the general public, that's all they fit that's all they think.  

[00:53:24] Benjamin Balderson:

Mhmm.   Did I get my first stiffy to Mary Slobbins?   That's funny. That's funny.  

[00:53:31] Allen Marcus:

Slobins.  

[00:53:33] Benjamin Balderson:

No. No.   No. My my first   was to,   major hot lips hoolahan RIP.   Not go fucking  

[00:53:42] Allen Marcus:

Hot lips hoolahan?   Is that part of the limited hangout?  

[00:53:48] Benjamin Balderson:

Well, I don't I don't know. Mash was was definitely some,   like   what was it? It was like,   penance porn   as far as that goes. Like, they non generation?   Yeah. They could feel good   about   however they thought about Vietnam   as seen through the eyes of a, you know,   cut up and wacky   bunch of doctors in Korea.  

[00:54:18] Allen Marcus:

Okay. Pause here for a moment. I'm still stuck in the sports ball baseball metaphors.   So you're saying pennants, porn, and I'm thinking these triangle shaped,   felt slags   Pennants. From Pennants. World Series.   Minnesota Twins. I got some Minnesota Twins pennants from 1987. And what was the other year? Oh, they won the World Series. Well, was it '87 and '91?   '80 '7 and '91, I think.   Yep. Kirby. Yeah. Bucket.  

[00:54:45] Benjamin Balderson:

That's the only Minnesota plan anyone ever knows.   No. I can name most of that team. Well, you grew up next door. That that doesn't count.  

[00:54:58] Unknown:

I actually changed Kent Herbeck's,   shocks on his Suburban   as at the time working at,   it's kinda it I can't remember the name. What was it? It was   not not Midas,   not Meineke.   It was a more local one. I can't remember the fucking name of the place anymore.   And they call and the old guy they first put the old guy on it,   but he couldn't take the tires off that damn thing. They were too heavy, so they threw me on it.   And they didn't tell me the customer's name. It was no big deal. They it it was when them sense SensiTrak   shocks first came out, the Monroe SensiTrax.  

And,   no. You can't lay on my mouse pad.   So I changed them and didn't think nothing of it. And the manager's sitting there talking to the guy, and I just figured they knew each other. And he's a big dude, Kent Herbeck is. That's a big ass dude.   And,   I got done, and they handed me my ticket. And I went to go fill out the information. I'm like,   fucking Kent Herbeck?   Then as but or, you know, they didn't want the whole shop knowing and getting all weird about it, but I'm like, I was working on his fucking vehicle. It would have been nice to at least shake his hand and Cat Herbak.  

[00:56:15] Benjamin Balderson:

Sure.  

[00:56:17] Allen Marcus:

I think you said a new magic word phrase,   a unique arrangement of words. I heard a Midas,   a Meineke.   I think the third word is Menards   for the Midwestern Magic.  

[00:56:29] Benjamin Balderson:

No. Menards isn't a a well, I it's not a mechanic. You know? But yeah. But you can save big money there from what I understand.  

[00:56:40] Unknown:

Yeah. Not too many auto automotive things at Menards.  

[00:56:47] Allen Marcus:

We'd always joke it sounded like my nards, which sounded like a testicular joke. Yes.   Yes. And that's that really is the secret to a lot of success of these these male dominated   places of shopping.  

[00:57:02] Benjamin Balderson:

Dick jokes?  

[00:57:03] Allen Marcus:

Yes. Phallic   energy is so important. Sporting goods.   Dick's sporting goods is a good one. Yeah. Do you, know Dick Enrico,   second wind exercise guy?  

[00:57:17] Benjamin Balderson:

Not familiar.  

[00:57:19] Allen Marcus:

I met this guy at a camp enterprise   trying to get me into,   free enterprise and business stuff.   Dick Enrico, his big thing was he'd   purchased televisions from hotels that went on business, the old CRT tubes. And after realizing people weren't spending a whole lot of money on old,   hotel televisions,   he started purchasing   gently or never used exercise equipment, realizing so many people would buy   Nordic tracks and treadmills and Bowflexes,   but then use them once or never at all. So then he'd buy them back   and then sell them back to people who wanted to buy   used exercise equipment. So he had all he had bobbleheads. He had commercials.  

He was a big mid Midwestern guy.   Dick Enrico second wind exercise.   I don't know what he's on to know.  

[00:58:12] Unknown:

And Donald Trump, junior is apparently selling guns online.   Sure.  

[00:58:17] Benjamin Balderson:

Sure.  

[00:58:19] Allen Marcus:

Like,  

[00:58:21] Benjamin Balderson:

squirt guns or pellet guns or No. I I think I think the the legitimate pew pews,   from what it sounds like. Yeah. Akshull, a k s h u l l, Akshull.  

[00:58:35] Allen Marcus:

Hunting.   You could you could shoot a deer with this? Of course.  

[00:58:40] Benjamin Balderson:

You would imagine.   Interesting. I don't think I don't know if you can   legally   sell handguns   online.  

[00:58:51] Allen Marcus:

Interesting.  

[00:58:53] Benjamin Balderson:

Right?  

[00:58:56] Unknown:

I don't know either.   Can you sell those online?   I mean, I mean, obviously, selling them online's,   no problem.   Where my question would come in is then is that but in store pickup only or   whatever because shipping   I I believe   mailing gun parts is a big deal if I'm not mistaken.  

[00:59:17] Benjamin Balderson:

Yes, sir.  

[00:59:19] Allen Marcus:

Everything is a change in in this new world that we're living in, this golden era of commerce.   I have a video   related to that. I think I shared it to you guys earlier.   Is it die back to save money for nothing? No. It's it's a just go back to the hog farm.  

[00:59:46] Unknown:

Go back to the hog farm?   Like, Laytonville Hog Farm? Let me let me try to pick That's what I thought you would that's what I was wondering. Right? Like, way bigger than pretty regular.  

[00:59:57] Allen Marcus:

That that kinda thing? That that kinda hog farm? I'm just I'm just trying to kill some time here. I mean, I'm trying to keep the stream alive.   Trying to use positive   imagery here.  

[01:00:07] Unknown:

Oh, well then I was born with Navy Gravy because I had a Navy three.   That's known for human trafficking.   They're people on acid. Like  

[01:00:19] Allen Marcus:

Here's the clip. I got it up here.  

[01:00:21] Unknown:

There we go.   Pelosi's actually stare good at our job.  

[01:00:26] Allen Marcus:

So this is, you know positive.   David   Hogg,   the vice chair of the, Democratic Former former vice chair. Oh, they already canned him? Yeah.  

[01:00:40] Unknown:

Did they mince meet him? Is it for this video that Marcus is about to show us? No. No.  

[01:00:47] Benjamin Balderson:

No. Okay. So  

[01:00:49] Allen Marcus:

as of Tuesday, June 3, '9 '30 '2 PM central time, I don't know the status of one,   David  

[01:00:57] Unknown:

Hogg.   Why does his forehead slope back so quickly?  

[01:01:03] Allen Marcus:

You know, there's a phenotype probably,   probably some genetic stuff.   We go into the theory of cloning the hogs.   We'll get into that a little bit later.   This is a video   of   a Project Veritas   undercover   brave   reporter   who brought a hog   to a hangout, maybe a saloon of some type, probably one of those   rainbow colored friendly   men's only establishments,   maybe. I don't know. I don't see any whim well, no. There looks like a one.   Anyway, I don't know. Let's just play the video and see what David Hogg   has to say   when he doesn't know, or maybe he does know that he's being recorded.   I don't know if it's the same situation as   Glenn Greenwald who was staring into the camera   as he was looking at the camera and then looking down at the ground and looking up the spit that was spit from the guy holding the camera, making it clear that he was being recorded. I think this was a hidden camera   of David Hawk.  



[01:02:13] Unknown:

I presume so because if you were professionally doing it and able to look at it, you would try and at least get an angle maybe from a top. So it's   that forehead slope would not, like,   make it look like a Yamaka's been on put on the back that was way too tight. And I understand they're small hats. So, I mean, maybe, like, they they went,   like, somehow   pulled his forehead back at, like, a 45 degree slope. Like, what what is that? We have established that, mister  

[01:02:43] Allen Marcus:

Hogg   here is a a survivor   of an educational   facility   under duress.   And that is kind of his claim to fame.   Have you guys seen this clip before?   Yeah. Okay.   So for those who haven't, let's play it and see what he says. I don't agree with the stock trading stuff. I mean,  

[01:03:07] Unknown:

I would say Pelosi is actually very good at her job. I don't agree with the stock trading stuff. I mean, she gets better returns than almost every hedge fund in this city   every year. Some of these members of congress make trades that are, like, way too well timed   to not have, like, insider knowledge. They happen to be some of the best   financial analysts in human history. Have you spoken against that?  

[01:03:31] Unknown:

But it's also like Why is it? Why does it look like his hair has been set onto him like a poorly fit Lego?   Like, let them Lego do so you can, like, change their hair out, and this one wasn't quite big enough for his   head.  

[01:03:46] Allen Marcus:

Sure.  

[01:03:47] Benjamin Balderson:

Have you noticed   the watch that's on my arm?   What is the time on that? Blow that up. Noticed? Have you noticed? Have you have I have I not, like, wave it in front of your face?  

[01:03:59] Allen Marcus:

What not? It looks like the little hand on the wall is about five My daddy gave it to me for college graduation.   Maybe about,   you know, 05:10.  

[01:04:12] Benjamin Balderson:

That's not true, dude. The a a lot a lot of men still wear watches.  

[01:04:17] Unknown:

Real men wear real watches.   Fuck no.   Fags.   The dudes that the wearing watches has become fashionable again.  

[01:04:29] Benjamin Balderson:

Fucking crazy, dude, or, like, the Apple Watch,   like a grown man   walking around   with all the beep beep.  

[01:04:39] Unknown:

There is zero chance. Look at like, I don't even have a wedding ring on because the the tie the short time I was able to   wear one,   outworking because I do man stuff, I damn near ripped the damn my finger off, and that wedding ring just came completely undone. The welds   snapped on it the whole nine. Mhmm.   Like Yeah.   That's that's a daily occurrence   for my hands because I do man stuff. Like, if you're able to wear a watch,   then you're, of course, just sit like this.   My hair doesn't match my head.  

[01:05:19] Allen Marcus:

I well, being a very important person   in a very important political position,   he's gotta keep a lot of appointments. So he has to be   on time,  

[01:05:31] Unknown:

and he has to keep on a cell phone like the rest of us?  

[01:05:36] Allen Marcus:

I got a lot of questions for David Hogg too. And if David Hogg wants to show up on stream, we'll we'll get him a streamer and then he can jump in and and talk to us. I mean, look, dude.  

[01:05:47] Benjamin Balderson:

You know,   it it to to Anna's point about, like, nobody wears watches. No, dude. There there's plenty of dudes that wear watches,   but it's That's right. It's, yeah, it's an accessory.   Uh-huh.   Like, they're putting on a piece of jewelry to go show off.   That that's why they're doing it. He he never actually checks his watch. Otherwise  

[01:06:13] Unknown:

I mean, unless he's left handed, but otherwise, it would be on his his left. It's probably nine in the morning right now when he's making this video. It's not even five 05:10.  

[01:06:26] Benjamin Balderson:

He actually They're having   they're having breakfast mimosas?  

[01:06:30] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. And he set the time on his watch to 05:10 to go, look. I'm not a morning drunk.  

[01:06:36] Benjamin Balderson:

Right. Right. This place makes the best egg white omelettes.  

[01:06:41] Allen Marcus:

So you don't think it was happy hour?   He doesn't look that happy. It's, you know, 05:00, and that starts happening.  

[01:06:50] Unknown:

In-depth, like, interview type thing during happy hour at a bar?  

[01:06:55] Allen Marcus:

Well, he's   he doesn't know he's being filmed  

[01:07:00] Unknown:

according to the I realized he doesn't know he's being filmed. I assume, though, he realizes he's leaking to a reporter.   He just doesn't realize everything he says is being recorded   because otherwise, he can go, I never talked to that person.  

[01:07:14] Allen Marcus:

Okay.   Remember earlier when we talked about Edward Snowden?   Edward Snowden   told everyone   on   global earth firmament,   terra firma, whatever wherever we're at,   Edward Snowden let everybody know that everything you say and do is being recorded by every   cell phone, every Xbox,   every   everything   has a microphone   and a Wi Fi connection and is always on and always listening and always recording.  

[01:07:52] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:07:54] Benjamin Balderson:

Do you think those are the   the, James   O'Keefe   super spy   undercover   gay glasses  

[01:08:04] Allen Marcus:

that are recording David Hogg right there. I'm glad you brought up the Queef for Liberty hashtag   that we mentioned in our last stream. It's hashtag Queef for Liberty.   We'll see how far that gets us on the social medias.   James O'Quief, I'm not so familiar with.   Is he the project Veritas guy?   Yeah. Well, former. Former. Former. So he established it.   They took it away from him, and now someone else is running the same Veritas   tips and ship.  

[01:08:38] Benjamin Balderson:

They took his germ.  

[01:08:42] Allen Marcus:

I'll be I'll be back here in a few. I'm gonna play this clip out so we can see what he's gonna say.  

[01:08:48] Unknown:

In the history. Have you spoken against that? I've talked to you. But it's also, like,   I know that if I pick that fight, it's gonna be harder for us to get gut control past. Mhmm. So I pick my path.  

[01:09:02] Allen Marcus:

There's the key part of the   clip here.   It's gonna be harder for us to get   gun control   passed,   so I have to pick my battles.   That's a direct quote from David Hawk.  

[01:09:20] Unknown:

And, basically, what he's saying is   is if he goes against the dinos,   that it's gonna split the party, that the younger progressive   wing of the party   like,   I'm sure he's on the,   okay, the Cortez   chick, OAC or whatever.   I'm sure he's on in big in her little group,   pushing that kind of thing, and they're running up against the the old   Democrats that are already seated in that have their money systems established and whatnot.   These new guys are also getting money. That ship,   you know, when it became a fucking multimillionaire   and working a,   junior senator job. I mean, come on now.  



[01:10:11] Allen Marcus:

That is kind of what, David Hogg is talking about here saying   that   politicians   are time travelers   or they have the   sports almanac because they are making bets   today that are paying off huge tomorrow,   and that is not statistically average.   So to politely state that   politicians   have insider knowledge, we might call that insider trading.   But if we were to call it insider trading, then there have to be some   some slapped on the risks for that because I don't think that is a legal thing to do,   to have insider knowledge and then trade based off of insider knowledge.  

[01:10:54] Unknown:

Okay.   So if I was gonna take the devil's advocate   against that,   I would say,   could that also make the case   that these hedge funds don't necessarily   work in the best interest of their client,   I e, the most money that's gonna change hands   is is,   what garners them them the most since they earn their money off of the exchanges, not off of   the profits.   It's not like you profited so much, so now you actually pay your,   day trader or whatever.   It's off it's off of exchanges.   And   so the,   volatility of a market where some of these,   politicians I I don't watch that kind of thing, but I'm gonna say,   what if they are not moving   through different stocks as often,   and the ones that they are getting   are always a solid one and sitting. And the date or the the,   hedge funds   also would have this capability.  

But, again, you get onto a good stock that just keeps rising and rising. You're not gonna get rid of that stock and go try another stock or anything.   So there's less transactions.   Could that case be made as opposed to the politicians   are using insider trading?  

[01:12:32] Allen Marcus:

You asking me or David Hogg?  

[01:12:35] Unknown:

Because David Hogg I'm not asking you. I'm I don't I don't imagine even if I ever had the chance, I'd have too much to say to David Hogg.  

[01:12:45] Allen Marcus:

It's remarkable that such a young man who in his academic   career   was traumatized   when   bullets   were   growing wings and flying through the campus.   And this is how   David Hogg became very popular   because he was at that   institution of learning   the day the bullets   were flying like little birdies   on the academic   campus. So now   he's got a a perspective   that leads him to want to   control   the emissions   of these   metal   pointed shaped   objects   that can sometimes   pierce flesh.  

[01:13:36] Unknown:

Yeah. He basically   put himself out there as the on the site   guy on   something he thought was gonna make him ultra famous.   And now, of course, that also gives him leverage in the   community of   anti pupus and  

[01:13:57] Allen Marcus:

Mhmm.  

[01:13:58] Unknown:

Because he would have obvious reasons to be highly committed to that particular cause,   given the storyline   he's presenting.   And, of course,   anybody that doesn't realize that particular county in Florida   also has the most if you watch politics at all,   Steve's the political expert, but that county   in particular   has is just crazy all the fucking time. Thank you, Jimmy.   And despite what I said about   despite what I said earlier about not getting as much sweets and I'm fucking ripped this year.   Anniversary, so the wife is making a delicious dessert.  

[01:14:52] Allen Marcus:

Happy anniversary.   Thanks.   Are you making a carrot cake?  

[01:15:01] Unknown:

No.   No. Chocolate mousse of some kind so far. Chocolate mousse.  

[01:15:09] Allen Marcus:

Interesting.   These these words are very interesting. I wanna go back to stocks. I was thinking, like, stocks in terms of stocks and bonds, but stocks also in terms of, like, gun stocks. What what part of the gun is the stock? The stock in the barrel?  

[01:15:25] Unknown:

The part you put up to your shoulder.  

[01:15:27] Flow Dusty:

Okay.  

[01:15:30] Allen Marcus:

And then there's also the idea of breeding stock.  

[01:15:36] Unknown:

Yeah. That's what you call my cows.  

[01:15:40] Allen Marcus:

We have more to say about cows and and breeding and husbandry,   and   I don't know. Is this,   does Nancy Pelosi have children?  

[01:15:52] Unknown:

Yes.  

[01:15:53] Allen Marcus:

Okay.  

[01:15:56] Unknown:

Interesting. If they're smart,   they invested in the vodka company that she enjoys.  

[01:16:05] Allen Marcus:

Was that the   there was the sisters that have they're the heiresses of the vodka company. Is that a different vodka company?   I'm not a I'm not an avid vodka drinker. I don't attend bars as frequently as, David Hogg here does.  

[01:16:33] Unknown:

Yeah. I said I'm not a good drinker.   I did it for, like, a year when I was 21 because I could.   And then I did when I was in nine when I was 19 in Germany. I was drunk basically the whole time I was in Germany.   But   in my defense on that,   I did go to the hospital because I did was drinking the water,   and a bunch of us did actually, and that's why they start bringing in boxed water.   The the beer was the better way to drink.   It was at least sterile,   but definitely,   holy shit, is that beer strong.  

[01:17:12] Allen Marcus:

Again, don't know if David Hogg here is completely,   what's the word, hoisted or plastered   or if he's even been drinking. It appears to be, an adult beverage establishment,   and his solution   is banning members of congress from owning stocks.   Is that why maybe he's not the Democratic National Committee vice chair anymore because   of the idea of   not allowing   congress   people   to own stocks is not a not something that they would agree to.   Or if you have stocks and then you want to be elected, you have to sell all your stocks.   Or I think he has a solution of   putting all those stocks into another fund or something. It gets convoluted here.  

His solution is probably not even that important.   He's looking at   her trades and saying she's making a lot of money. She's a wealthy woman.  

[01:18:15] Unknown:

Well, he doesn't even need to do it. There's another guy who's already done it,   told the world about it, and then developed an app   that tracks her her trades and I believe some other,   prominent   congress people   and tracks their trades,   and you just get and because it what is it? Thirty days or something? Within thirty days of any given trade, they have to announce to the public that they made that trade,   And that app just hey.   This they made this trade. If you wanna be rich like them,   you should probably jump on that train.   Forty five days, Christie says. I'm not sure.  



[01:19:00] Allen Marcus:

Forty five   and forty seven.  

[01:19:04] Unknown:

Traders,   so I'm not.  

[01:19:11] Allen Marcus:

Fascinating   stuff.   The other thing to answer your question about,   his face looking strange.  

[01:19:21] Unknown:

It looks like his hair doesn't go with his head.  

[01:19:26] Allen Marcus:

Very fair. Very, very fair to point that out. In the age of artificial intelligence using computer generated imagery   to paint faces over actors,   The legitimacy of this video might be called into question   and saying, that's not David Hogg. That's   an actor with a body,   but the face   doesn't match   the head it's on.   It could be painted on. This sort of plausible deniability   moving forward with   evidential video   and the   Greenwald   video   where he's wearing   some not quite a French made outfit.  

[01:20:15] Unknown:

So you're positing that these   videos could at least be   pawned off as deep fakes   and not overly well done. So that way the the,   errors show so that way people can notice them and say, no. That was a deep fake, but at in but possibly in all actuality, it's not, and that whole scenario was set up for the plausible deniability.  

[01:20:43] Allen Marcus:

Is this what we're saying? Well, let's let's go back to what what is it? The Zapruder   film?   The Yeah. The Zapruder film. The Grassy Knoll film taken in was it Texas   Yeah. With, a president   who was on parade and other bullets grew wings and flew through the sky. Don't know in which direction.   And then the president   Yeah. Laid down for a little while, took a long nap.   That film was said to have many different versions   that was shot on film.   People analyzed that film frame per frame, but memories of that film shown privately   revealed that there were variations   on that film.  

So   differences in important details might have shown   a a metal   going backwards or forwards, might have been coming from the driver or from from front or behind, and they're trying to trace the trajectory of the thing.   And then it turned out that the film itself was   maybe like the Bigfoot film   where Singh is not believing   because of could have been a guy   walking around   wearing the skin   of   some,   orangutan.   So what you see appears to be   a Wookiee in a Star Wars film, but we know it's a man in a suit playing the role of Chewbacca.  

[01:22:22] Unknown:

That recent one from Colorado, though, is pretty good from the train in Colorado.   That one's pretty well done.   I don't know if that's if that's a fake or not. That one's awesome.  

[01:22:36] Allen Marcus:

Haven't seen it. Is it on the Twitter?  

[01:22:40] Unknown:

I don't remember where I saw it, but I bet you could find it on YouTube. It's I think it was in the train, and this it was definitely from a train, but I think it was in Colorado. Didn't we see Didn't we see it on Karen's show yet? I've seen it before. It's probably a couple years old now. And that's a video of a Sasquatch?   Yeah. And it's somebody catches it just riding a train and catches it, and it almost kinda notices it, and it just basically sits down into a bush and disappears.   You know?   But, I mean, you could see that it's you know, it just becomes part of it. It just naturally camouflages into it. It's   it's pretty good.  

Bubba.   Bubba,   quit torturing the cats.   These cats let them chew on them, and they get buttered about it. And I don't understand the whole   thing they got going on.  

[01:23:40] Allen Marcus:

It's   Tuesday,   June 3. We're not quite at the full moon yet.   The temperature's heating up, and it is not quite officially summertime,   but it it feels like it.   The animals on the farm are   behaving   in such a way that seems like they might wanna reproduce.  

[01:24:03] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.   Holy smoking, Joes.   Holy smokes.   Yeah. Like I said, I just gave up and let the cows and the bulls hang out. Like, I'll stop it. Let them naturally,  

[01:24:16] Allen Marcus:

commingle with each other?  

[01:24:17] Unknown:

Yeah. I got I'll have to have that fixed within about probably   six months no matter what because,   Cheney will eventually get old enough to breed   and   but you don't want them to breed right when they start doing it. You want them wait. I like wait until they're two, and they're pretty fully developed.   Some people do it a little bit earlier, but, nonetheless, you would never have them do it at, like, 10. That's insane.   You know, that's gonna just hurt her bad. And,   so you gotta get keep them fucking balls away from them.  

[01:24:59] Allen Marcus:

I shared an article   about cloning,   and that seemed to be one of the issues,   maybe an ethical issue   or an animal rights activist,   issue in terms of needing to have mothers.   So needing to have   organic   mothers with wombs and ovums and eggs   to be able to fertilize,  

[01:25:27] Unknown:

which is just Oh, there's pain in that since it doesn't have a mother, we've deprived it.  

[01:25:34] Allen Marcus:

Well, the issue is science wants to move quickly,   and   the scientists   performing   the operation   to   inject   the goop   into   the the mother,   they need more mothers, and they need that to happen faster so they get more data.   The complaint being that the scientists   don't have a regard. They don't have a care or a concern for the mother.   And once the mother  

[01:26:05] Unknown:

is pregnant, the Tell me this isn't just making a homunculus. How can how can you possibly tell me this is just isn't just making a homunculus?  

[01:26:15] Allen Marcus:

Right. Because the the mother is often   cesarean.   The,   you know, the balloon's out of size because they're putting in   so much information into this mother that she'll produce, you know, triplets, three, four, five Oh, they're trying for multiple births on these. Oh, that's that's wrong. That might be a side effect of the science they're doing because they're putting in   a a whole petri dish slurry   of swimmers.   So the male swimmers, the building material that's going to the building site,   and the building site   only has,   the square footage of the property, and they're trying to put a larger   amount of,   you know,   First Floor   square space footage of of   on the property. And then when the the natural   birth happens,   things are so stretched out   that   it's not gonna go through the birth canal.  

So they're having to   say,   good night, mom. Thanks for your service,   and then try to pull out the the cloned That's my TV. The the cloned, fetuses to try to   to try to save the progeny   at the risk of the mother   losing her life.  

[01:27:42] Unknown:

Right. She's not the important thing. She was just a a donor space for what they got going on.  

[01:27:48] Allen Marcus:

Right.   And   then due to having   the the extra   children,   the the the buyer or the seller might have signed a contract to say they only want   one   cap. They only want one beautiful baby cow. They're only paying for one, but then the mother produces two.   And the buyer only paid for one, but now they have two. So what do they do with the second one? Do they sell the second one at a discount?   Do they keep it? Do they have space for it? Can they feed it? These are the types of questions that these these cloners and science labs   aren't really talking about publicly.  



[01:28:28] Unknown:

Interesting.   Another interesting thing is is we were all kinda taught more than kinda   that one of the issues that you had with clones was that they're sterile,   and they aren't.   Like, I myself,   there's a   a giant a large cat rescue   in Southern Oregon,   by it's somewhere on Grants Pass, and,   it's a real nice little preserve.   Well, at some point in time, there's this cat in there, and it looks like a fucking house cat.   And it's apparently the most vicious killer on the planet. It literally   this cat got brought to extinction   because,   it would wander into, like, herds of sheep and goats and shit and just slaughter the whole herd. Just one of these things overnight. Just just go kill everything just for the joy of killing apparently.  

And,   well, some dude decided   it got down to one of them left, and some rich dude decided, well,   I, you know, this thing should survive.   So he cloned,   a clone   off of off of one and with the genetic   with the sex changed,   and that had a baby with the one live one left.   And I got to see that baby, and the baby was just fine and alive. It wasn't even like a small baby. It's it was   pretty much full grown when I saw it.  

[01:30:01] Allen Marcus:

And that takes time to develop   Yeah. The child. And then   I have a personal anecdote related to I I wanna say out of the University of Minnesota, there was a science program   where they were breeding   geckos.   And the whole experiment determined   the gender   of   the red gecko in a lab.   Once they were born, they had to reach a certain maturity   for the genitals   to show   to determine   the gender outcome.  

[01:30:36] Unknown:

So, I mean, how much of this is CRISPR as opposed to cloning then, where they're really altering so much   of the DNA sequence?   I mean, cloning,   the way you think about it is just being a direct copy of   whatever it was,   you know, material,   one for one, basically.   Where   isn't this more like a CRISPR type thing where they're actually altering   things around, making, like, entirely different things than it was originally?  

[01:31:07] Allen Marcus:

That's sort of the the selective breeding for a specific   trait or quality.   This article   from the,   Atlantic   has a lot of examples and goes into a lot of different ideas.   There's talk about, a pig, and they wanted to breed it to have a specific   colored orange nose so that they could determine that it was indeed a clone. So they wanted to place some sort of   physical appearance marker   on the animal so they could look at it and determine that it was a clone,   but it would behave just like a normal pig. The difference would be,   color pattern or something on   the animal.  



[01:31:52] Unknown:

Which no matter how small it is, you're still talking about an alteration.  

[01:31:57] Allen Marcus:

Right. So that's where you get into the idea of, like, designer babies or   breeding dogs   so that you would have the most beautiful dog with all the qualities that you'd want in a specific   breed of dog.   But that means the dogs that are born without the qualities of that are wanted and desired, they   become,   I don't know, bargain bin,   puppies.   Sure. And they sell them for a a a   if   they have buyers or they go to   animal shelters   or farms.   The the problem with the geckos   was they were breeding so many of them because they needed large datasets.   And then once they have the geckos,   they would have known use for the geckos. And because it was, like, a summer thing, by the time   fall   arrives, they need to clear out their stock of   bred geckos and then just give them away. So I had a friend who had,   like, three or four geckos.  

I was like, well, this is this is a lot of geckos.   Going through a lot of crickets here, a lot of of feeding them, and   I   was like, oh, I saw for a time I had a gecko.   And for the life of me, I couldn't remember the the gender of the gecko. I didn't I didn't look too closely   under the tail to determine   the the qualities of of the gecko.   I I love that gecko   regardless of the gender of the gecko. It could have been an intersex gecko, and I wouldn't even know the difference.  

[01:33:42] Unknown:

Well, then it would have been a mythical fake gecko because   only humans can   get that convoluted with things. Animals are pretty sure what they know they got going on with them. They they already know.  

[01:33:56] Allen Marcus:

I wasn't thinking a whole lot about car insurance at the time,   but I'm sure that was maybe a a concern   of the gecko.   That there's a gecko out there selling   car insurance, and the claims made by those people who have that gecko car insurance are not always honored.   So No. Be a  

[01:34:16] Unknown:

sham. No. And I had I had,   Allstate at one point was supposed to be real good. Progressive. Or progressive.   They were supposed to be alright. And   they screwed us over or didn't end up screwing us over, but I had to fight them for almost a year   and then had to hire my own guy to do, what it was gonna cost to replace my truck   before they would finally cut me a check that was worth a shit.  

[01:34:44] Allen Marcus:

Do you have a pet owner's insurance?   No. Is that cat,   the air condition behind you insured?   It is a cat. Oh, it's on the other side now.  

[01:34:57] Unknown:

Absolutely not.  

[01:35:00] Allen Marcus:

So the price of modernity and being a pet owner   registering   will go dogs. Dogs are valued higher than cats, it seems.  

[01:35:09] Unknown:

I'm not sure why I would need insurance on them. They help and produce babies all the damn time. Well, we're we're   we're they're, like, self replicating.  

[01:35:18] Allen Marcus:

I I understand that.   But some some are more loved than others. Some family pets are more beloved.   And to have a pet owner's insurance plan,  

[01:35:29] Unknown:

so in case Yeah. I didn't even know that cat at all.  

[01:35:33] Allen Marcus:

I don't know who that cat is. In case of a a a family dog   leaving   sooner than desired, the pet owners pet owners insurance   could be used to make a clone of that dog so that you could replace the dog. So the dog would never have to die in the eyes of the the children of the family.  

[01:35:56] Unknown:

Now would the dog act the same?  

[01:36:03] Allen Marcus:

Would the dog   know the name of the first dog it's replacing?  

[01:36:08] Unknown:

That's nice.  

[01:36:13] Allen Marcus:

Yeah. Would it even come to its name at that point? You'd have to train the dog the same way at the same time,   I suppose. So it would have to answer to the same name as the family dog.   This is what the Atlantic article gets into talking about   the idea that, you know, a beloved horse or a beloved family dog   would never have to die because it could live infinitely   as a clone version of itself.   So really and truly, a horse can be alive forever forever   and ever   if you were able to have the   genetics of the dogs stored, the horse stored, and then the lab would produce the clone.  

[01:36:56] Unknown:

This is, like, crazed this is crazy hedonistic, though.  

[01:37:01] Allen Marcus:

It's it's fear of death,   multiplied   by   narcissism   and the desire to not face death   or the limits of biological reality.  

[01:37:18] Unknown:

And the natural way.   Things carry on is just by reproducing.   We're self replicating.   It's a good time.   I understand that people today   would rather spank off in their hand   and do shit like that and watch porn.   But,   stop it, Bubba.   But that whole self replicating process that,   viviparous   reproduction,   the   fantastic time.  

[01:37:58] Allen Marcus:

Is that when, vipers,   reproduce themselves?  

[01:38:03] Unknown:

Those are, like, snake They do it by by vipariously also, I imagine.   Yeah.  

[01:38:10] Allen Marcus:

Is that, like, Egyptian style address with the, the snake on the headdress?  

[01:38:17] Unknown:

I'm not sure what you're into.  

[01:38:19] Allen Marcus:

I'm talking about Egyptian magic   and, like,   and, mummification and stuff.  

[01:38:28] Unknown:

Mummification   is a very interesting process, isn't it?   Especially when you understand the Egyptian book of the dead.  

[01:38:36] Allen Marcus:

So were the Egyptians preserving   genetic materials   of pharaohs and cats they really liked so that they could be  

[01:38:45] Unknown:

They were cloned?   Oh, I gotta get some more of these little anniversary   treats.  

[01:38:55] Allen Marcus:

In the magic   word   reel I shared,   there was a clip from Jurassic Park, and the whole premise of Jurassic Park  

[01:39:05] Unknown:

Yep.  

[01:39:06] Allen Marcus:

Bringing back   dinosaurs.   So having,   you know, a database   of   genetic materials   to bring back   animals   that would connect us to Taco, the dire wolves that they apparently had   brought back in some way,  

[01:39:31] Unknown:

which really is just   number one,   they don't understand the entirety of genetic code   in any way, shape, or form.   And when they did the the dire wolf thing,   alls they did was take gray wolves   and manipulate the DNA to make them bigger, I believe, more aggressive.   House.   Just a few.   You guys are not direwolf.   Take no need to get excited.  

[01:40:00] Allen Marcus:

We are recorded in front of a live   studio audience. Some of the studio audience are four legged friends.  

[01:40:11] Unknown:

Bubba is a puppy still.   My rescue dog,   and he wants to be Henri, and Tyr is his huckleberry   for half the day. Okay. Hinterlands  

[01:40:27] Allen Marcus:

Interlander is saying perennials,   represent,   you know, that's in flowery language.   There's there are annuals and there are perennials. There are some plants that   will survive one season, and they know that   after that season,   they've lived a great life,   and   they're off.   They exist as memories on Instagram,   Photographs and videos of flowers.   Other other bulbs might go dormant and return in the spring. Everything has a season.  

[01:41:05] Unknown:

Perennials are fucking great.   Asparagus is awesome.  

[01:41:10] Allen Marcus:

Asparagus is a perennial?  

[01:41:12] Unknown:

You betcha.   You get that. You actually can't even eat it for, like, the first three years.   Yeah. Let it   really take root.   Mhmm. But if you get unless you get a established root ball and plant an established root ball,   you need it to establish the root ball real well.   Yeah.  

[01:41:39] Allen Marcus:

You have a wide range of interest on the   Benjamin Balderson YouTube channel?  

[01:41:45] Unknown:

Yep.   Homesteading,   a cult,   after living,   little bit politics.  

[01:41:54] Allen Marcus:

Politics affect everybody for better or worse. Alternative  

[01:41:58] Unknown:

science.   Mostly for worse.  

[01:42:02] Allen Marcus:

Yeah. Some politics are are more affecting,   and that's sort of the the cultural climate, checking the,   cultural   barometer   to see what the the climate is. Is it a cloistering   sort of a stuffy environment that we're in?  

[01:42:23] Unknown:

It's a way too established environment   and a one that's been given   for too long, the back and forth trying to just be against the other side,   has went on, and they've   thank you for the happy anniversary.   The   best decision I ever made.   For too long, they've done this game   and   where they'll give   the people will be all about giving extra power to one side.   And then   the other side's gotta get have more power.   And then it goes back to this side who now we've gotta have more power to offset what happened here.   And that ping pong effect has happened for enough years   where our government is just fucking   crazy with the shit they do. They have absolutely   no regard for their own laws, for the constitution,   any of it. They they just do whatever the fuck they want,   and nobody pays a penalty. It doesn't really matter how how red handed they get caught in something.  

At best, you might get if it's a giant thing that gets   that gets caught up,   like the Iran contra   affair, you know, one dude,   you know,   gets put up, and that dude gets put back in the spotlight. He's just   he's just recently been,   on TV again and and advising and everything else.   But one dude gets pinned on the whole thing. You take,   the Nuremberg Nuremberg trials. What? 13 people get taken to trial?   13?   Like It's a major number.   Nobody else nobody else had any kind of war crimes during that time period that they probably needed to be,   taken to court over just just 13?  

That's that seems pretty weird.  

[01:44:30] Allen Marcus:

Yeah.   War crimes are weird, man.   So I'm sure there's some war crimes happening   at this very moment.  

[01:44:40] Unknown:

Oh, guaranteed.   Guaranteed.   Right.   You know, the the the the leaders of these countries, that's the funny thing is is, like,   in half of these, like, the Nuremberg trials and everything else The United States does, and then we're the ones that break it right away.   Like, nobody else do this thing that we all that we do   all the time.   No. Nobody else, though. It's against the law. We, The United States, have made laws for the world now.   But a bunch of countries said, yeah. That's probably a good idea. So, yeah, this is the whole world. Don't do this except except us.  

[01:45:18] Allen Marcus:

Sure.   The idea of manufacturing   consent plays into   this, cloning idea.   The fact that   most people   in most countries,   are creeped out by the idea of human cloning.   They don't wanna have anything to do with it.   So to introduce people to the concept of the benefits   of this technology   using   family pet dogs   as a way to say, see the benefits   of cloning a family pet dog. There there are so many   benefits.   You love your family dog?  

[01:46:00] Unknown:

Well, we'll have a Yeah. You gotta hit white people in their fields.  

[01:46:05] Allen Marcus:

White women need to   feel   the   impact of the science technologies   upon their lives   to tweet about it, to become   mommy bloggers about their cloned,   their old bred horses   that they love on their horse farm. So to get horse women involved in this to talk about That's that's that's middle class money.   Horse breeding. It's the waspy women   that are going to move forward   the technologies   that are being made public now.  

[01:46:41] Unknown:

It's a nice sweater, Steve.  

[01:46:43] Benjamin Balderson:

Thanks, man. Thanks. I think it's even on the thumbnail tonight.   Nice.  

[01:46:49] Allen Marcus:

Beautiful Black   Hills. That's where the mythical   jackalope   breeds.  

[01:46:55] Unknown:

Yes. And and wall drug exists.  

[01:46:58] Allen Marcus:

Mhmm. Wall drug is where I quench my thirst   once a decade.  

[01:47:04] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.   You gotta stop there. Actually, the last time we were there, the air conditioning was not working in the truck,   and it was crazy hot in South Dakota. And Christy and I were needing to stop and get out with the vehicle. And so, yeah, Waldrug was real nice. We Christy, he stroked on that on that trip. That shit was wild to watch. We went to a gas station that was at Waldrug. We originally were just gonna go in the gas station and get some drinks and hang out for a minute. But   Christy went into the gas station parking lot and just started going like this   around the whole parking lot. And the second   no. After two times, we got into the third one, and I looked at her. I was like, the fuck are you doing?  

And she goes, I don't know.   I was like,   oh,   shit.   Yeah.   So we went into wall drug, which was heavily air conditioned.  

[01:47:59] Allen Marcus:

And they they had ice in the wall drug? Oh, yeah. So they had ice and they had   well water?  

[01:48:07] Unknown:

If if you took the the   the Native American   tourist trap bullshit,   And then   every other tourist trap bullshit   biker,   anything else, if it's a cheesy tourist trappy store, wall drug is basically like the king of all of them put together. Like, it's all of them put together. Like, it's all of them put together. Like, it's all of them put together. Like, it's all of them put together. Like, it's all of them put   all of them, and they're all on top of each other. Let's remember it is called  

[01:48:35] Allen Marcus:

Crazy Horse. It's not called Mentally Stable Equestrians.  

[01:48:41] Unknown:

Oh, shit. Now you get   out of this.   Fair.  

[01:48:47] Allen Marcus:

So there is this return to   traditionalism.   It might be called conservatism.   It might be called, traditional   wivery going back to the past. I know that   the little house on the prairie story returns   to   prominence   when people are tired of the   technocratic   future of cloning and Tesla vehicles   and Skynet   and, you know, everything going online and the Internet of things connecting to everything else. And people are just saying, you know what? I wanna just throw it all away. I want to join a wagon train, and I wanna travel the Oregon   Trail   to experience life like it used to be lived.  



[01:49:38] Unknown:

Alright.   This is a real problem for dudes is why Yeah. They say it the,  

[01:49:44] Benjamin Balderson:

this is,   I mean, it's nothing like special or anything like that. The, Washburn.   I mean, it sounds great. It's fun to play.  

[01:49:55] Allen Marcus:

Night of the storm asked, what is it with podcasters,   cats, and guitars,   and also beards?   It's a fair question. I don't know if you have the to the answer tonight.   Tune in to   Tuesday's   infinitely   into the future, and we will explore the connection between podcasters,   cats, guitars, and beards. I do not,  

[01:50:20] Benjamin Balderson:

have a cat.  

[01:50:22] Unknown:

You we can fix it. No. It's okay. It's okay.   Steve heard you.   It's okay, Chrissy.  

[01:50:30] Benjamin Balderson:

Good. That's it. What would you like? We give you a six pack. Oh, do you still have the pup, though? I have a buddy moving to Nevada City, and he might wanna adopt.   I don't think Ben will, like, go a little now. I'm gonna be honest. Okay. Okay.  

[01:50:46] Unknown:

He he's he's thinking.  

[01:50:49] Benjamin Balderson:

Okay.  

[01:50:50] Unknown:

I'll think about it. Bye bye.  

[01:50:53] Allen Marcus:

Okay. Well, since you brought up the topic of adoption, I do have some notes about adoption,   adoption of new ideas.  

[01:51:03] Benjamin Balderson:

Nice segue.  

[01:51:04] Allen Marcus:

We can ride that segue   into   a terminal and arrive in Italy   in 2025   after May 22.   The constitutional   court has issued a landmark ruling affirming the legal recognition of both mothers,   two moms   in same sex couples who conceived children   through medically   assisted reproduction.   That is an MAR   MAR Abroad.   So if two moms   leave Italy and return with the child,   the Italian government has to recognize the rights of both mothers as being the mother of the child they return to Italy with.   Interesting.   And they called this   medically   assisted   reproduction.  



[01:52:03] Unknown:

Boy, we're gonna get spicy now.  

[01:52:07] Allen Marcus:

It's   time. We're close to about two hours in the stream, and then this is where the sum substantive,   substantial,   meaty,   aggressive,   frustrating,   and haterade   fuel begins to fan the flames.  

[01:52:27] Unknown:

Which means that if you were on a dog faced dudes, come over to Benjamin Ballerson. We're gonna drop dog faced dudes   with less spicy stuff and,   continue on.   And, yeah, this is gonna get spicy.   This has got some opinions that are not gonna be popular. There's no doubt about that.  

[01:52:50] Allen Marcus:

That's Robertson's YouTube channel. Also,   AMwakeupdot,   rumble?  

[01:52:56] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. In case we get booted from YouTube because it gets extra spicy.  

[01:53:02] Allen Marcus:

Rumble.com/c/amwakeup   is the link to the rumble.   Searching for delivering dog face dude number 38. I see we have some  

[01:53:15] Benjamin Balderson:

folks in chat waiting for this conversation. We are about to engage it. So for everybody watching on the Deliberating Dog Face Dudes YouTube channel, thank you   Thank you, guys. For hanging out there. Please do   go over   to Benjamin Balderson's   YouTube channel or   the AM wake up rumble,   and we will we will see you next week.  

[01:53:43] Unknown:

And at some point in time, we'll figure out how to forward things because you can just dump them people into it. And Hinterlander says the agenda to titty up the men goes back to the great hops mandate   of 1,500   or something.   And, yep, that's the beer purity laws where they said that beer could before that, beers used to be made out of just about anything. Because if you if you can convert it to sugar,   which most everything will convert to sugar, you can fucking make booze out of it. Right?   That's just how that works. And,   you know, even a damn potato. Yeah. It takes a hell of a lot to get that converted into fermentable sugar,   but you can do it.  

But you betcha.  

[01:54:32] Benjamin Balderson:

Trust the the to   have access to all different kinds of fruits and still try and get the booze from a potato.  

[01:54:42] Unknown:

Yeah. Fruits fruits, you can't hardly shit. Yeah. A a good pineapple.   Woah, dude. I love throwing because I I do a lot of meats,   and I love throwing pineapple in there. Like, there's you let a pineapple go a little too ripe and you bite into it, you're like, oh, it's a little boozy. Yeah. Oh, yeah.   Yeah. It's super sweet because all that sugar has come out and now started to ferment.  

[01:55:06] Benjamin Balderson:

Mhmm.  

[01:55:09] Unknown:

You betcha.   But, yeah, you can ferment just about anything. But, yeah, those beer purity laws forced you to use hops, and hops has it's something it's an insane amount, something like 80 or a hundred times the estrogen   that,   soy does. Uh-huh.   Yeah. It's I don't remember the exact amount, but it's crazy.  

[01:55:33] Benjamin Balderson:

Well, and then they made,   like, the hoppiest shit ever,   the most popular beer with the most feminized,   like, hipster dudes.  

[01:55:45] Unknown:

Put an art spice on it. Put it put an art spice on it. That makes it good.  

[01:55:52] Benjamin Balderson:

Citrus   your double IPA   and your oranges and lemons and fucking   fixie bikes and  

[01:56:00] Allen Marcus:

skin with your waxed mustache, cunt. We are fixing to get a little bit fruity. If things get a little bit fruity, just let us know. Speak for yourself, guy.  

[01:56:12] Benjamin Balderson:

No.  

[01:56:14] Unknown:

So Marcus's   point,   this is,   this is a real big thing.   I I,   should,   same sex couples   be able to medically,   go in and reproduce.   And, you know, there's this entire push that anything that makes a person happy, they should be able to fucking do.   And that that's absolutely insane.   These kids,   like, god. Could you imagine being being a little boy and being raised by two lesbian women?   Like,   serious.   This is this is getting henpecked by two people.   It's zero way are you ever gonna learn how to be a man.   It's it's absolutely horrible. I understand that a lot of women think that they know what a real man is. No. You fucking don't. No. You fucking don't.   And I don't care how cool a woman is. Like a group of six guys will be sitting around and the whole room is one way.  

And everything's awesome. And then a chick will come in and you've immediately got to take it like like like like fucking the cops showed up at your party and the music was too like,   like, crank that down   real quick, which which is fine. It's fine. We're different types of people. And when we're intermixed, you act one way.   But in no way do those women know what men are like, what what the way men interact with each other. They have real messed up,   ways of thinking about it, and you can tell this by, like, the butch lesbians.   Because when they're hanging out with dudes, every story they talk is about grotesquely having sex with women. And and and   outside of,   making a few little jokes because we just watched a video that was super weird   about things like that. Dudes don't talk like that. They really don't. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about blowing things up,   breaking things, dropping things, fixing things,   riding things that you like bulls or, you know, whatever.  

We're not talking about   sexual things. It's not just it's just not what dudes do.  

[01:58:28] Benjamin Balderson:

I mean, granted, it's what, like, high school dudes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, maybe, you know, if you're 25 and under   and, like, single and shit, sure.   A little bit. A little bit, but not like it's not   the you know, it's not even 10% of the conversation.   Yeah. Like, it's not even 5% of the conversation.  

[01:58:52] Unknown:

But you sit next to these butch lesbians, and it's, like, 95%   of the conversation coming out of their mouths. And you're like,   damn. You make fucking everybody uncomfortable. And, yeah, there are a couple of dumb drunk asses. They're like, oh, she's cool.   Like, that guy was a fucking idiot anyways, and we all knew it. You you, you know, you do have to have some idiot friends that pick up heavy things and things like that.   But in no way   should these people be able to propagate a child.   There's a reason that nature made it so they can't. Maybe that's a good thing.  

[01:59:27] Allen Marcus:

So it is 10:30PM   central time, Tuesday, June third, and I think we're going to enter a prompt for a a debate. I don't know   if the other side is going to listen and then try to have a rebuttal ready.   The the prompt is   vaguely   something along the lines   of,   shall a single guy   who is not interested in women,   doesn't want   to produce a child of his own,   be able to   adopt   a child?  

[02:00:05] Unknown:

Absa Fucking lutely not. Because everything I just said about men, the same applies for having a mother.  

[02:00:12] Allen Marcus:

Sure. So let me complicate things further   by bringing up   a story from 2019 that's making the rounds again,   probably due to the fact that   June is getting a little bit, free. It's getting a little bit stereotypical.   Yeah. A little bit prideful. I know that, in the Catholic church, there's seven deadly sins, pride being one of them. This inversion   of   great qualities   for   you know, it's it's good to be prideful. You know, maybe the villain of the story was misunderstood.   Maybe that the person that is, you know,   neurotic and, has not integrated the shadow, not acting well on behalf of   they themselves and for civilization.  

The   pendulum is swung back,   and the experiment   of culture   and permissiveness has kind of swung back a little bit, and it seems to be the hard correction.   So I have a tab here   ready to go up to share.   So this story was reshared   on Reddit's home page   today   without   revealing   the fact that this story is actually from   a few years back.   2019   to be specific, and I'll read the headline from the Daily Mail. It says in quotes, I'm proud to be her dad.   Single gay father,   41,   adopts baby girl with Down   syndrome   after she is rejected by 20 families.   This man from Italy adopted a daughter named Elba   when she was 13   old.  

Must see the children child, children is not commonly granted to single   homosexual men in Italy.   Elba, however, being rejected by   20 families who were not interested   in adopting   a girl with Down syndrome.   That's emotional.  

[02:02:30] Unknown:

Generally From my perspective, this is,   wrong   on many levels.  

[02:02:38] Benjamin Balderson:

Right. I mean, in fairness, if you're going to purchase a baby,   you you probably want to be able to, like,   shop around a little bit,   you know, get get the kind of babies that best,   you know, matches   the decor you already have picked out, maybe your car, all of your wife's purses.   You don't wanna get a baby that doesn't go with your wife's purses. That's just that's   un uncalled for. Tabloids  

[02:03:12] Allen Marcus:

love   the   extreme   and   fringe   stories,   and they pick up on the novelty aspect of this.   So   this is not a baby.   Not a blanket statement that covers every   single   man who   also adopted a a puppy dog, but also wanted to maybe be a mother.   And this man from Italy   probably declares   himself to be attracted to members   of his own gender,   but was unmarried   and wanted to be   a mother and father at the same time, to be a single   parent   raising   a child, not   a young son, but a daughter,   and not having access   to other children   was only allowed   to have access to   unwanted children.  



[02:04:19] Unknown:

You're like the reject out of the little clone factory. You get the half price shit kid.  

[02:04:24] Allen Marcus:

And   wanting to be the hero of the story.  

[02:04:29] Benjamin Balderson:

She's gonna be fierce.  

[02:04:36] Allen Marcus:

This is from 2019.  

[02:04:38] Benjamin Balderson:

I'm a get in so many fights with her teachers.   I don't know why I made them southern. I don't. But He's he's I assume he's from Atlanta. Atlanta. That's  

[02:04:47] Allen Marcus:

right. This is an Italian  

[02:04:49] Benjamin Balderson:

man. Bibbidity boppity. A bobbidity boppity boppity.  

[02:04:52] Allen Marcus:

Yeah. The the meatballs and, the spicy meatballs and SpaghettiOs,   this sort of thing. Exactly. This type of,   Italian man.   Mhmm. And and you said it earlier.   You know, being a fur parent,   a a single   pet owner   was not enough for this person.   This man   needed to be the center of   a heroic effort   to post pictures   of himself   wearing nothing but a Speedo   and   pictures of his   young daughter and continued to take pictures of himself   at the beach   in bed doing normal guy stuff in his   Speedo,   jockeys,   and taking pictures of this   little girl who did not consent to be photographed or featured in videos.   So the exploitation   of this   poor young girl became   a national news story   as they picked up pictures from this person's Instagram. So this is 2019.  

In 2025,   this person continued to post pictures   of himself   and his   Down syndrome daughter   and   published a book about it.   So now this person's gone on a book tour.  

[02:06:24] Benjamin Balderson:

It's called ups and downs with Timmy.  

[02:06:30] Unknown:

Is this about Greta Thunberg?  

[02:06:33] Benjamin Balderson:

And then we stuck her on a floatia and sent her off to Gaza so she could get massacred by the Israelis.   Did I get the ring? Make that fucking clown a martyr.   Oh,   dude.  

[02:06:52] Allen Marcus:

So if this man is a victim of hate crime, it's not because he's attracted to other men. It's probably because he's   exploiting   himself   and a   13   old   dog that   he purchased   with adoption papers  

[02:07:14] Unknown:

For the virtual Olympics. Continues.  

[02:07:19] Allen Marcus:

How old is she now? Six or seven years old?   And he continues   to travel   with her,   taking pictures   with her.   She's   under the age of consent. She's still a child.   She doesn't know what's going on.  

[02:07:44] Unknown:

So, bros.  

[02:07:47] Allen Marcus:

This is not a shining example of   progressivism.   But   being involved with politics,   this guy thinks it's a great thing.  

[02:08:04] Unknown:

Italy is the second most gay   country   in Europe for sure.  

[02:08:11] Allen Marcus:

Let's see. I I don't want to share pictures of the daughter.   She doesn't need to go through that anymore.  

[02:08:20] Unknown:

Which I, you know,   there's a hard discussion to be had whether   I agree with what you're saying, Sarah g. I think it's a you know, cloaked fetish bullshit for sure.   That poor little girl is probably getting used as a prop in some very eyes wide shut type shit.   It's at the very least, it's, you know, for the virtue signaling Olympics.   There's a case to be had. I'm a I'm a I'm a heathen.   So what well, France, of course.  

[02:08:54] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. You don't if you didn't know that Yeah. Yeah. Make a laugh, Meg.  

[02:09:00] Unknown:

The,   that that's just a given. Like, they're so gay. You don't even question it. It's who's who's in place for second.   Right. They   but as a heathen,   reincarnation is a very real thing.   And these people that are coming into these bodies   are your honored   putting them in a broken car. You're like, this is just   a car that you're riding around in,   and this one's really broken.   And this is part of why heathens used to take those kids, and they would,   dispose of them.   And it wasn't because they wanted that child to suffer or because it was too hard to raise it.   It was because that that child was going to live a horrible life.  

Like, at best, there would be, like,   no functionality,   really. No use. You might get some   fleeting glimpse of happiness.   Mostly, you're just gonna suffer your whole life, and that's fucking cruel to make somebody go through that.   Like, last year at Danish days,   there was this couple going hauling around this   kid.   Maybe it was two years ago. I don't know.   There's this couple there's this couple hauling around this kid.   He was five or six maybe. I don't know.   And the kid couldn't walk. He he rode in a little red rider car. His little body was distorted.   And this kid's just miserable. This is like the fucking   video one where you can't communicate. You can't,   you know, you can't speak. You can't hear. You're just trapped inside this hell.  

And, like and you're acting like you're nice because you because you're taking care of this pet,   which is basically what it is. It's never gonna be a functional person. It's never gonna enjoy the things that people enjoy in life and that are meaningful for it.   And you know, I understand in today's Christian world where they're like, oh, you don't know God's purpose.   Like bunch of fucking nannies.   That's ridiculous.   So, you know,   under our under the way heathens look at it,   they're going to come back again. Only next time, probably not in a fucked up broken body.   Odds are pretty good that that's not going to happen.  

It's a very rare thing.   Then they're going to enjoy themselves much more, have a nice life.   It's not that big of a deal. It's these you only live once people   that have this problem with this kind of thing. So it's really a ideology   problem that happens.  

[02:11:47] Allen Marcus:

Yes. So for example, the same gentleman who   loves to,   you know, share his life and his   politics and ideologies and travels,   talks about in the heart of France and Le Blanc, there is an extraordinary community.   The little sisters disciples of the lamb, a religious institution   that welcomes women with Down syndrome into their contemplative life founded in 1985   by Sister Lion.   This community has faced many challenges to see the vocations of these women recognized often underestimated because of their   disabilities.   Recognizing   the fact that in this Catholic tradition   that, you know, all souls are important and that they need to live their best life, a contemplative life,   dedicated to   god   and higher things, thinking about heaven in the afterlife.  

They want them to live out their life   so that they can   die peacefully of old age and go to heaven.   That is an that is an ideology.   That is their belief system.   And you're saying in a heathen belief system,   it's more merciful,   and   there's there's other words to describe the fact that when a child is born   and it's determined that this child   has   disabilities,   that the   the graceful thing is to not force this child to develop into adulthood?  

[02:13:29] Unknown:

Yeah.   Not force it to go through   Sure. Years of getting picked on, made fun of.   This is, like, best case scenario where they're at least   provided for and taken care of through the   contributions of the church that supports these monasteries and the visitors and whatnot.   They would never have made it functionally in the world.   Like, this is the and and   I don't disagree that this is the way that they should be, but   would I choose to live a monastery life? Fuck no. Sounds horrible.  

[02:14:04] Allen Marcus:

In The USA today,   many   mothers are rewarded for having children.   And the mothers who   raise their children   who are born with disabilities,   who are later   recognized to   possess the traits of   the spectrum, autism,   Asperger's, this type of thing,   are given Social Security monies and under the social safety net.   So it actually   benefits mothers financially   to raise them to be,   you know, 18 years old to into adulthood. And then after adulthood, because they are not   self sufficient functioning adults, the government will continue to grant Social Security checks to raise these   children.  

I've had conversations with mothers who   have had   to bring in   help   from outside the home   as caregivers   to   assist in,   you know, washing dishes, doing laundry, making meals because the mother is so overwhelmed   by the child who cannot take care of themselves. And now there's more responsibility for the mother to raise the the child who is creating more difficulties for the mother. But because Social Security benefits exist   that would not otherwise exist,   the mother   keeps the child   and benefits financially for doing so.   The society   has arranged itself   towards this   financial   handout   that allows these mothers   to   not work a job,   but raise   a developmentally   challenged child.  



[02:16:05] Unknown:

What's up, Michael?   No. I think they're okay. I don't think everybody hears it.  

[02:16:17] Allen Marcus:

We're whispering.   Yeah. There's there's a cat with the paper bag. It's the ASMR version of deliberating dog face dudes. This is where we talk quietly about issues we have to whisper about because under polite company,   we wouldn't otherwise  

[02:16:35] Unknown:

wanna talk. How do we get in the how did we get into play company?   Cadwulf,  

[02:16:41] Flow Dusty:

resistance 13   says   Everyone has a belief system   until the truth hits them. This is biological reality.  

[02:16:51] Allen Marcus:

Skull Meeting fire.   Financial   hardwalls   and budgetary restraints.   On the Oregon Trail,   it would be difficult to bring developmentally   challenged children along on a journey  

[02:17:09] Benjamin Balderson:

to the California Coast to mine and pan for gold. Right. That's why there's the old folks song. Oh, there ain't no tars on the Oregon Trail. No. There ain't no tars on the Oregon Trail where there ain't no tars on the Oregon Trail.   Because they'll slow you down and get you killed by engines.   Right? That's, yeah, classic American   folks on.  

[02:17:34] Allen Marcus:

And this is where I would be my interest. My ancestry does include indigenous people. So, again, all of   indigenous people.  

[02:17:42] Unknown:

So again, all of these, I got two. My mom was born here and my aunt and  

[02:17:49] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah.  

[02:17:53] Allen Marcus:

You know, and I I do,   need to   consult with, Jert Magert to resacralize   my my piece of pipe   powwow experience.  

[02:18:06] Unknown:

If if you're if you need re sacralizing,   you're McGirt, that's that's your dude. I forgot.  

[02:18:12] Benjamin Balderson:

The dude. I forgot entirely about you.   I really did. I really did.   Tuning it into the Sunday sermons and the Jason Barker is lying. He doesn't die of dysentery on the Oregon Trail. He dies of freaking   getting   buggered to death   by the rest of   the the fellas on the trail because he couldn't pay his freaking,   pharaoh debt.   He had, like, a mean running pharaoh game   on the Oregon Trail.   Jason kept losing.  

[02:18:50] Unknown:

So you're saying I didn't cut a real  

[02:18:53] Benjamin Balderson:

He there was there was that death by snoo snoo.  

[02:18:58] Unknown:

Yeah. That was the hardest fucking game.  

[02:19:01] Allen Marcus:

The Oregon Trail has those headstones to memorialize   those who   whose lives were lost   on the trail,   which enabled other   trailblazers   to follow Lewis and Clark   and go to the the best coast, West Coast manifest destiny.   On the deliberating dog faced dudes, we have our own   Mount Olympus. It is a sort of Mount Rushmore.   Mount Rushmore   being   this natural   landmark   and through years   of indigenous   people's tears   carved away into the stone,   a paradilic   facial   pattern   of four great white men.   Yes. The bad lions.   That natural landmark   on the trail   of these forefathers.  

They're one, two, uno, dos, tres, catorce,   padres.  

[02:20:08] Benjamin Balderson:

Very,   very forward thinking   of those native Americans   to envision   a world   with,   you know,   I mean, George Washington, let alone Teddy Roosevelt.  

[02:20:23] Allen Marcus:

Sure.   The facing   the crazy horse   Mhmm. For four to one.  

[02:20:30] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah.  

[02:20:31] Unknown:

The forefathers fought for Oh, the crazy horse is giant.   Giant all on its own.  

[02:20:38] Allen Marcus:

Yeah. That that's just that A lot of tears were shed on a trail   to erode the rock face formation   so that we could see a a horse   jotting over the the boot the the butte to the butt,   the the cleavage of the rocks   is what I'm describing.  

[02:21:01] Benjamin Balderson:

Okay.  

[02:21:02] Allen Marcus:

Why are there not   mothers and women   and mammary mammary   mammary mammary mammary mammary mammary, mammary, breasts in the rocks?   Rocks have cleavage, but we don't see natural breast formations.  

[02:21:16] Unknown:

Well, there hasn't been there hasn't been a woman president.   It's ever.  

[02:21:22] Allen Marcus:

Oh, my god. President? For  

[02:21:25] Benjamin Balderson:

I I decided   it   to,   like, okay, man. While I'm doing,   graphics and shit like that, I woke up hell early this morning. It was just one of those things where, like, you know, sometimes you wake up and you can go back to sleep. Sometimes you wake up and your eyes are just wide the heck open, and you're like, oh, well, crap. Guess I'm awake now.   You know? And it was one of those where I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm up.   Alright.   So I'm sitting in the living room,   doing graphics for the show this morning,   and,   you know, nothing really going on. Scan you know, hand the the stuff I usually read through and all that kind of shit. And so I put on the whatever   podcast,   just to have something like   that   you really have to pay attention to   on. Oh, fucking   and   they had on   the other night,   like,   the most   insufferable   college   chick or recent college graduate   chick   that,   number one,   is they've ever had on that show. But number two,   I would put   I would put $5   on she's top five, if not top three,   most insufferable   woman to ever appear on the Internet.  

Like, I mean,   from jump,   the for, like, the entire, I don't know, forty minutes or so, forty five minutes   that   that I was fucking   half assed paying attention to it. It's this broad   being,   like,   contentious,   never answering a question,   always fucking   either, like, creating her own hypothetical   around the question and then answering that   and then being like, I don't understand why you don't understand what I said.   Yeah. You know? Like, it   if you if you wanna go,   oh, this is why people say repeal the nineteenth,   or, oh, this is why people say college is a scam,   or, oh,   this is why, you know, there's a freaking   manosphere   as a freaking,   you know,   narrative management   other side of feminist coin.  

You know? Like, it it's it's this fucking dumb bunny, dude. It really is. And,   like, the absolute idiot cartoon next to her, like, the pair of them,   oh, like, it it's just you know,   you you understand   in a lot of different ways, like, why   society is as roundly   fucked   as it appears to be for the majority of people.  

[02:24:47] Allen Marcus:

Oh, was the dumb bunny seated next to a hot pink wearing   Uh-huh. Vice  

[02:24:54] Benjamin Balderson:

Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Miami,  

[02:24:58] Allen Marcus:

debate dodger?  

[02:24:59] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. And and, I mean, that's kinda like you're you're right, Ray.   The podcast does find the worst of humanity.   Forget. But, I mean, the way women in men and women. Yeah. The the it's   what's wild   is that the,   the alumni   of that podcast   as, like, the   counterweight,   you know, dude bro,   their whole debate experience   is dunking on retarded whores.   And, like,   pretty much anybody   can dunk on a retarded whore.   And sometimes even they get, like, tripped up   by the retarded whores.   So   I I don't know.  

[02:25:52] Unknown:

No. That's all that show is   because she grew up in that world of women, and she and  

[02:26:02] Benjamin Balderson:

she likes to see that for rich bitches. I'm  

[02:26:07] Unknown:

And she likes to see that   counters to that.   I can't take listening to these chicks. It drives me nuts.   Like, it it gives me PTSD or some shit. Right. Like, I can't do it   I listen to it a few times, you know,   checking out Andrew Wilson and checking out Jim Bob and whatnot.   But the show in and of itself, I can never Unwatchable.   Unwatchable. And I I could never sit there for that many hours.   And, you know, if you wanna check this out, I will have in mind. If you wanna check them out, you can mute the audio and just  

[02:26:45] Allen Marcus:

ogle and  

[02:26:47] Benjamin Balderson:

objectify and just, oh, wow. Yeah. But why did you do that with the whatever podcast when there's, like, women's beach volleyball?   Yeah. Point, Steve. We get that. We do. We all understand. You win the debate. What's the next question?  

[02:27:05] Unknown:

Yeah. The and here's the thing, guys.   No matter how hot these chicks are,   don't do it.   They're not worth it.   That shit's a poison. That reminds me. Let me go find it. Then guess what? These dumb bitches will quit being so insufferable.   They will become decent again because   nobody wants them. Nobody's willing to give them a whole bunch of money just to show up on the Internet and hang out   and, like, wave at them and shit.   Quit doing all that kind of shit, and guess what? They quit being assholes because   they don't wanna go and get a real job.  

[02:27:46] Allen Marcus:

That's my next article   to read from.   Having to do with   women that are too hot to work   and are paid for their attractiveness. Their   their attractiveness and ability to paint their face with glamour magic makeup products   means that they just cannot   do anything but collect money   from anybody for being beautiful.  

[02:28:14] Unknown:

Yeah. A lot of people apparently like that not so erudite chick. Think she's hot.   Jim Bob said in person when you're not and you can you see all the cake on and shit. He's like, no. It's all bad.   It's all bad.  

[02:28:30] Benjamin Balderson:

So a little primer in case you guys,   were you know,   in case you guys don't wanna take our word for it. Like, this has been   formulaically   broken down  

[02:28:45] Unknown:

by an actual nerd. Okay. So this is the universal hot crazy matrix. It's everything that one man needs to know about women.   I've developed this on my own over forty six years living on the earth. So this is how it works.   You have your crazy axis   and your hot axis.   Hot is, as usual, measured from zero to 10. We're all familiar with that.   Crazy is measured from four to 10 because, of course, there's no such thing as a woman who's not at least a four crazy.   So you got   four to 10.   This is your hot crazy line right here. Very important that you keep in mind where the hot crazy line is.   As a rule,   this is your no go zone. We do not hang around   and date and   marry women who are not, at least in our mind, a five.  

So this is your no go zone. You don't go here. We just rule this out. Life is better this way.   That's the way it is. Alright?   Above a five and to about an eight   and below the crazy line,   this is your fun zone.   You can hang out here and and and, meet these girls and spend time with them. That's your fun zone. But keep in mind, when you're in the fun zone, you want to move out of the fun zone to a more permanent location.   Okay?   So that's the fun zone above a five, hot,   below an eight, hot, and below the crazy line. This means these are, most of the time, not crazy. K?   Above the danger zone, above the, above the crazy line, we have   the danger zone.  

This is your redheads, your strippers,   anyone named Tiffany.   Hairdresser. This is hairdresser's.   This is where this is where your car gets keyed, you get a bunny in the pot,   your tires get slashed, and you wind up in jail.   Now now that we have some of the chart filled in, we got a couple more pieces to put in. But at this point, understand something.   This is not a static environment. This is a situation where you have got to,   use this matrix over time   to develop some reliable data. It's like a dope chart. Okay? You because at any moment in time, any woman that you have previously located on this chart can vanish from that location and appear anywhere else on the chart. So what you have to do is over time,   collect some data.  

And once you have a cluster   of data points, you can begin to consider that reliable.   Now   moving on,   you have   this zone here. This is below the crazy line   above an eight hot, but still,   you know, about a seven crazy.   This is your date zone.   You can stay in the date zone indefinitely. These are women that you introduced to your friends and your family.   They're they're good looking, and they're reasonably   not crazy most of the time. Okay? That's that's fun zone. Stay here indefinitely.   Now above an eight hot and between about a seven and a five crazy,   this is your wife zone.  

Okay?   When you meet this girl,   you should consider a long term relationship.   This zone is not scaled to size. This this is a   not an actual wolf.   If this is not a pie chart showing you how many of these people are out there, this is simply a representation of what you're after. You want to be   five to seven crazy above an eight high.   That's your wife's zone. K? Now   below a five crazy   and above an eight high,   this is your unicorn zone. These things don't exist.   If you find   a unicorn,   please capture it safely, keep it alive. We'd like to study it and maybe look at how to replicate that. Okay?   So I was explaining this to a guy one time and he said, wait a minute.  

I met this girl and she's, like, smoking hot. She's, like, at least a nine and she's chill. She's totally   cool. She's, like, not even a three crazy.   I said, you're telling me you've met a girl, she's a nine hot and she's like a two or a three crazy.   He said, yeah, man. I like her a lot. I said, you should be careful. That's a dude you're talking to a tranny.  

[02:33:43] Unknown:

Fact.  

[02:33:45] Benjamin Balderson:

And that is the hot crazy matrix.  

[02:33:49] Unknown:

Fact.   The Institute of MGTOW studies.  

[02:33:57] Allen Marcus:

There there was a response video   made by,   I think, orthodox priest.   Yeah. He called it the hot holy matrix, and it was a priest's guide to women.   Now the link I have to that,   leads to a private video. I don't know if that video is still online.   She had a blueprint for evaluating future spouses while staying clear of potential pitfalls. It was, it had some wisdom for Christian marriages.   Unfortunately, I don't have   a link to that live YouTube video at the moment. I was searching for it.   Couldn't find it. I know it exists because I made a note of it.   But, unfortunately,   I don't know. He changed the title of it. It's not the same video.  

He had his hot holy matrix.  

[02:34:48] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. That that didn't a lot of people complained about that orthodox guy that did that. Yeah. There was a lot of complaints. The orthodox are the Other Moses?   Of all the of all the Christians, they're the most uptight.  

[02:35:05] Allen Marcus:

Did they not say know?  

[02:35:10] Unknown:

But he got a lot of,   blowback from that, I heard. From the hot holy matrix,   previous video? Okay. Yeah. The guy who put that out, I heard, took a took a took heat  

[02:35:22] Allen Marcus:

for doing it. That's too bad. I have father Moses. If you're listening, I appreciated your video.   I wanted to watch it again in this moment,   struggling.   Wanted wanted to see it and see how it worked and then,   share it, but, no, it's not available.   I mean, that's just typical for these orthodox bros debate dodgers who can't take the heat. And when when they when they post exciting material that we like and wanna share, they just,   pretend it never happened, and   this is it. Did you find it? Nice.   I mean, it says reupload it or something like that. That's that's this is let's watch. This is it. Alright. You can turn the closed captions on. It's almost ten minutes. Turn the closed captions on. Hit play on it.  

[02:36:07] Unknown:

And then, you know, because it's going on for ten minutes about this hot holy matrix. Mhmm. It has the x, y, and axis. Is the holy, hot, and hateful. It's just attractiveness, hot, and holy rhyme together. This is a blueprint for how you can assess. Do what?  

[02:36:22] Allen Marcus:

Yeah. You can mute it because he's just keep playing the video and unmute until he gets to the to the substantive part of it. We'll just let the video play out for the the ten minutes while we're talking about it because he's just gonna introduce the video. We we saw the original video.   He's going to say from a priest perspective for a a Christian marriage to work,   the man needs to be interested in her   physical   appearance.   And the physical appearance of the woman is gonna be important to the man to keep him interested,   but then recognizing the the biological   imperative   and women aging differently than men and the use of makeup and things and and fitness and health. Basically, to to say that when you're looking for a woman to marry,   if men are chasing after   the hottest women,   they might also be the craziest, but not also the holiest.  

So he's trying to tell his his young men to say, you need to find   a woman who   is in this the sweet spot of,   you know, natural beauty, doesn't need to wear makeup all the time.   And then you're gonna like looking at her for the next fifty years type of a thing.   Basically saying that, you know, women age, that's a that's a thing. You're gonna marry a woman. You're you're committing to her for the rest of your life. That is the till death to the apart thing. But then there's also this aspect of holiness,   which has to do with the institution of Christian marriage   being   this trinity of   God in the bedroom with husband and wife.  

What a cock. The holiness effect.  

[02:38:04] Unknown:

What a cock.  

[02:38:09] Benjamin Balderson:

So now we can listen to him a little bit where he's gonna talk about I don't know. I think I think Ben, at least in the Christian tradition, they make Jesus sit in the chair.   I don't think the husband sits in He doesn't  

[02:38:22] Unknown:

even get to go in the closet and, like, stare through the slats  

[02:38:26] Benjamin Balderson:

and Right.  

[02:38:29] Unknown:

Like like, if you're Jesus because you got the stigmata, do you even need to, like, close your hand around it? Can you just, like, go like that? Jesus is like a holder leg, bro.   So then the If you guys do it do it missionary,   it makes Lilith so mad.  

[02:38:47] Allen Marcus:

He talks about how, you know, divorced women   you know, he talks about you know,   women who never married but have children. He talks about all of these things, and it's very interesting.  

[02:39:00] Unknown:

Oh, he's like, this is your lesson on whores. This is these are whores.  

[02:39:06] Allen Marcus:

Well, if they are Not holy.   Divide. Of the the church in good standing, and they they they fit into the holiness scale,   as in over time, they become more holy   as their   physical attractiveness   sort   of waxes and wanes and ultimately  

[02:39:28] Unknown:

is it fair to say just tell them they don't know about chicks. They don't become more holy over time. It just becomes bigger.  

[02:39:37] Benjamin Balderson:

Uh-huh.  

[02:39:38] Allen Marcus:

There's more there's more ghost.  

[02:39:45] Unknown:

Oh, you know, I'm I'm a little confused by it by the way. I got I got the I got the this from the wife.   Oh, shit.   Oh, fuck.   So this is I mean, are we saying, like, eventually, she'll let you do anal? Is that what he's just saying? I don't understand. What's the holy?   Steve, help me out. I sure That is exactly  

[02:40:07] Benjamin Balderson:

what he's saying.   I showed a picture earlier of, nuns. He's saying if it don't fit, don't force it. You gotta   you gotta  

[02:40:17] Allen Marcus:

he's like He he's talking about the the the nuns, the sisters, the the   the the involuntary   celibate women who devote their lives to Christ who never get married.   They are nine and ten on the holiness scale. They are Oh, I guess nuns are incels.   Yes. Involuntary.   The no. They well, they are No. They have to take No. They're voluntarily.  

[02:40:41] Unknown:

So they're voluntary. Yeah. That's voluntary  

[02:40:44] Allen Marcus:

syllabus. Those women are not gonna marry you. Vol cells?   Yes. Vol cell, v o   l c e l l, voluntary   syllabus.   These are the traditional   Catholic women who will never get married because   they decided early on that they weren't gonna get married. They're brides of Christ. They are brides of Christ.  

[02:41:08] Unknown:

Or they have Down syndrome.  

[02:41:11] Allen Marcus:

That's another possibility.  

[02:41:13] Benjamin Balderson:

They there's an optive gay father.  

[02:41:17] Allen Marcus:

Yeah. That has been documented. We we, had proof of that earlier.  

[02:41:23] Unknown:

Who's probably being used in very bad ways.  

[02:41:29] Allen Marcus:

The hot holding matrix video, legendary,   a shame he took it down and didn't stand by his, meme.  

[02:41:37] Unknown:

Well, I think this guy has position in the church if I'm not mistaken. Does he not? I think he takes up a lot of space in the church.   Well, I mean, okay. In the He just in the in the a lot of space for the booth at IHOP. He's kinda wide. Yeah. Yeah. And and the Orthodox church, I believe the only people that are supposed to preach the message are given authorization   to do so.   I think he's under that purview if I if I heard correctly. I'm not   big on this stuff, but I recall hearing some of the Ortho Bros talk about this.   And then I've seen a big thing on x about it.  

But   if you're   allowed allotted the ability to speak,   you're basically that means   that you're in such a position that you represent the church in and of itself.   And   so the church apparently does not back this   in any way, shape, or form, and him being a a chosen representative   of the church   to spread the church official message   apparently, did not appreciate   him doing so.  

[02:42:55] Allen Marcus:

Right.  

[02:42:57] Unknown:

But the world has people like Ellen Marcus around   who,   if it was on the Internet for five minutes,   somebody got it   and   will   reshare   it with the world.  

[02:43:15] Allen Marcus:

Digital documents.   Yep.   So even orthodox priests are exploiting themselves   for,   meme points and up boats and karma and Internet,   popularies.  

[02:43:29] Unknown:

One sec, please.  

[02:43:32] Allen Marcus:

This guy being a meme worthy   orthodox   priest guy trying to cash in on the   trend of being orthodox   Christian on the Internet in 2025.   Yeah. I mean, this is just a a criticism as people   outside of the Orthodox Church are kinda talking about them.   I guess the BBC,   has a news article about  

[02:44:01] Benjamin Balderson:

Russian churches promising absurd levels of manual. RIP   to Anna's black dick straw.  

[02:44:10] Allen Marcus:

Brad Binkley, black what what I don't So Get it fit into a Stanley Cup. Carnival at Third Eye Carnival  

[02:44:17] Benjamin Balderson:

in Nashville,   Brad Binkley   had,   found in his car, I think, or was just going through some shit.   He had   crashed   a Kamala Harris rally.   Like,   he's one of those people that will, like, dress up ridiculously.   And so he showed up in, like, a blue wig   and   a a white dudes for Harris shirt,   and he was passing out penis straws   to, like, just everybody that was there.   And so that was one of them, and it wound up at Third Eye Carnival.   And, yeah, and Anna wound up with it.   And,   yeah, what,   two months later  

[02:45:08] Unknown:

It's awesome that to fit in, he's like, I just gotta do some degenerate shit, and they'll and then I'll fit right in. They'll never write notice me. Like,  

[02:45:17] Benjamin Balderson:

dude, he was he was conducting   interviews   wearing a   ball gag   and, like, ho ho ho ho ho ho.   And people were trying to figure and answering him.  

[02:45:33] Unknown:

And this is why so many people are jumping to orthodoxy and things like that because they're like,   you know, they're like, we've seen how how things go when you're given too much freedom. We need rules.  

[02:45:45] Allen Marcus:

Jumping jacks for Jesus.  

[02:45:49] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. We need rules. We obviously can't choose for ourselves. And this is literally just the the classic Promethean fire. You know, only the gods have should have the ability of free will and free choice. You know, they should just tell us what to do, and we become little automatons that   do things just in the bumper the bumpers up. You can't not hit the pins.   You know? You're gonna Oh.  

[02:46:16] Benjamin Balderson:

You shouldn't have free will. It appears we he he we ran out the entire clip there. Oh, it's okay. I got a BBC article.  

[02:46:25] Allen Marcus:

We can switch over to Okay.  

[02:46:28] Benjamin Balderson:

We'll we'll do that death to tyrants with  

[02:46:31] Unknown:

a a AA for weirdo  

[02:46:34] Benjamin Balderson:

question here. Yes. They're an AA for weirdo kink peeps. I believe it's called the Church of Latter day Saints.   I believe  

[02:46:46] Allen Marcus:

I believe that's what that's what the AA for How many runs are on the ladder? Is it a ladder to heaven?  

[02:46:55] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. Yes. Yes. Because, everyone knows that it's not actually a stairway.  

[02:47:01] Unknown:

And whoever,   who just pointed that out oh, great white point it out, dude looks like a power lifter. This is this the same dude? Because the dude does look like a fucking power. Is,  

[02:47:12] Allen Marcus:

the same dude. Yes. Yeah. I'll do it. It looks like a power lifter. These US men are joining Russian churches. From the Alex Jones supplement store.   Absurd   levels of manliness.   Look at that, flavor  

[02:47:26] Benjamin Balderson:

flavor crucifix. Oh, we got them King Charles fingers.   Fingers. Woah.  

[02:47:32] Allen Marcus:

He's on the   power team.  

[02:47:34] Benjamin Balderson:

Remember these guys that would tear phone books in half? Dude, he did. With hands like that, he could be Kelly Osborne.  

[02:47:41] Allen Marcus:

Father Moses McPherson's   congregation is triple in size in eighteen months. They're following his fitness   regimen and hitting me. The gym.  

[02:47:52] Unknown:

So so not only is he telling them their spiritual path, he's also giving them their their physical guidance. Like I said, these all these guys are and this includes Andrew,   little bitch.   Actually, I think Jay Dyer needs the Orthodox church. That guy actually doesn't have morals on his own at all I   fucking Andrew and all these guys, all the guys that are too chicken shit to show up. Fucking   the the fucking, the Orthodox church. That's that's   you guys just don't you wanna be little automatons.   Like, you can't decide anything. They can't decide anything on their own, and that's a big draw for that.   Like, I'm gonna be a piece of shit unless somebody tells me what to do. Here's a a photo  

[02:48:39] Allen Marcus:

of Theodore.   Simon and Elvin,   were not available for comment.   This convert Theodore,   who until recently rejected all   religions, decides to lift weights three times a week with father Moses. I can tell by the look in his eyes   that he might be Hoppa.  

[02:49:01] Benjamin Balderson:

Juiced for Jesus. Nice. Steroids are my holy water.  

[02:49:05] Unknown:

Remember back in in, like, the eighties, there was some dudes that would run around all fucking jacked up and break back over their legs? Power team. Oh, yeah.   Yep.   Jesus help me break. Oh, give me strength.  

[02:49:20] Allen Marcus:

Where's the  

[02:49:22] Benjamin Balderson:

Though I walk through the valley   of the shadow of death,   I shall fear no evil.  

[02:49:30] Allen Marcus:

So   it says here Orthodox Christians are 64%   male.   So 64% of the church are men.   That means there are fewer   hot holy,   mothers   to,   go with the man. Also  

[02:49:51] Unknown:

tells me that these recent converts are incels   because you join you became, that particular religion. My wife's a heathen. I'm a heathen.   It's amazing.   Like, you you got a wife and she's not gonna join or a girlfriend or whatever, and she's not gonna be of the same thing you are. That's insane. I know the church teaches against that. Fucking so these are a bunch of little incels.  

[02:50:15] Allen Marcus:

Right. And these incels   are upset   that   their evangelical   protestant worship music sounds like a Taylor Swift concert.   Mhmm. So they want that old style   orthodox   hymnal. I don't know if they're   singing in Latin   or Russian,   but there's military  

[02:50:36] Unknown:

chants.  

[02:50:38] Allen Marcus:

Right. That would be cool. That would be a great use of   Orthodoxy.   Put out some new enigma albums. They're all microdosing   on, like, some your moods. In between  

[02:50:52] Benjamin Balderson:

the chanting.  

[02:50:54] Allen Marcus:

It's okay to have cool tattoos, I guess. Former atheist Buck, I don't know if that's his real name,   began exploring Russian orthodoxy during the,  

[02:51:04] Unknown:

these Father Buck. Twenty twenty time. My name is Buck, and I'm here to fuck. Right. Right.  

[02:51:10] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. No. That guy does not drive the pussy wagon. He does not.  

[02:51:17] Allen Marcus:

Are you saying he   Anymore.   Like to travel to,   France and Italy to swim on the beaches with the other  

[02:51:27] Benjamin Balderson:

days of male nursing in the Como Ward are are long over   since he found  

[02:51:33] Allen Marcus:

orthodox. Well, he's got a bluebird tattoo and a rose here.   Interesting. Buck Johnson, if that's his real name.   He was a firefighter for twenty five years.   Okay.   No. He was initially scared to enter his local Russian Orthodox church   because he has tattoos. He's not lying. Welcomed into the church.   He's afraid of the negative American views on Russia. So this is   this is,   correcting the negative views of Russia.   They're concerned about the American media   and the coverage of Ukraine.  

[02:52:10] Unknown:

Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Scroll.   Okay. I don't wanna do that. Never mind because that's just getting us dinged without a doubt. But   it says that I I just read that scrolling past that the church stayed open during the couf, and I'm fairly sure that the church did take a stance against that that not to go out and things like that. And Yes.   Do all those things. And I thought it was open, and so this that seems very,   counter to what I remember.  

[02:52:39] Allen Marcus:

Well, the the,   Protestant churches,   the Unitarian churches,   they all kind of the Lutheran churches, they stopped serving,   you know, lutefisk and fish during this time. They didn't have as many potlucks. The anti fish was deceased?   Well, well, they were concerned about the,   the wet markets   and the the bat soups   during that, trying time  

[02:53:06] Unknown:

in our history. Again, there's stanky fish from China?  

[02:53:10] Allen Marcus:

You know, you put it in a can,   and I got some holy mackerel here.   Alright. I don't think it's   I don't know where it's from. I don't know where they sourced the,   the King Oscar   version. I don't I don't think it's from, Mille Lacs Lake or Lake Superior.   It's North Atlantic.   You know, I'm trying to get that freshwater fish, not that dust seawater fish. Well, I mean, does it get a does it get a casino check?   Well, you know, that's, if you're if, you know, if you're reading my   headline here, it says Internet native indigenous Black Hills wall drug. The the text cut off. It says,   casino dweller.  

Put that part cut off on the   the identifier. You know, I'm trying to use my pronouns   space properly.   Arch priest John Whiteford pictured with his wife,   Patricia, not quite wearing a hijab or niqab,   but it's a nice scarf.  

[02:54:13] Benjamin Balderson:

That that is correct, d two t.   That is correct.  

[02:54:18] Unknown:

Alright. That is 100%   correct. He definitely stares at himself   for exceedingly long in the mirror   and, like, pops his collar and shit like that. If you've ever watched,   v for vendetta,   the asshole who repeats his own speeches while he's listening to himself   on the TV, while he's in the shower,   overly impressed. That is  

[02:54:44] Benjamin Balderson:

literal Jay Dyer. And he's touching Jay Dyer uses his hairbrush as a microphone   while he wears sunglasses   in his bathroom   singing I want you to want me as he gives himself a ritualistic   full body shave.  

[02:55:01] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah. God, we need somebody that can make a video of that, a little cartoon animation.  

[02:55:09] Benjamin Balderson:

I   want you to mommy.  

[02:55:15] Allen Marcus:

There are,  

[02:55:16] Unknown:

He needs to tuck it while he's dancing, though.  

[02:55:28] Benjamin Balderson:

This one.   Diarrhea. The He shaved his cubes into a fucking,   a picture of his own face.  

[02:55:42] Allen Marcus:

Type of guy to subscribe to his own YouTube channel.   It's  

[02:55:47] Unknown:

It's and like all of his own stuff.  

[02:55:50] Allen Marcus:

Right. Like, like, the Yurt Magurt,   bought farm of   up,   votes and positive only. Again, we understand that a nondisclosure   agreement is not the same   thing as a membership agreement. But Which includes nondisclosure.   Deleting comments   that ask why you're deleting comments   and then deleting the comments asking why the comments are being deleted   is strange behavior.   And the comments are something along the lines of, you know, Benjamin Balderson   wants to know why you keep dodging   his questions and a debate date.  

[02:56:32] Unknown:

Fuck. That is fucking hilarious. Marty's getting harassed.   Oh, fuck. That little chicken shit will never show up ever. And and this is the funny thing about, like, this orthodox movement, like, not being able to open an olive jar. They're all fucking tech bros   and and video game nerds and shit like that. They're in a manly fucking one at one in the group. No wonder they're turned into some power lifter, and they're all like, god. I hit the gym. I don't go to the gym. There there's just no fucking there's just no fucking reason to go to the gym because I do man work. And   these guys are all, like, everything about them is is just half man at best. It's just we're in such a sissified world that it's like the the one eyed man in the lion land of the blind is king.  

And there's a reason that they don't want nothing to do with this show because   the dudes here do dude stuff.   You don't want a piece of that. You standing next to it, you are the fucking you are the maneless little   lion   that's just going.   %.  

[02:57:42] Benjamin Balderson:

Yep.   I,   I gotta clear out of here, but if you guys still wanna  

[02:57:53] Allen Marcus:

three hours to the rumble.  

[02:57:55] Benjamin Balderson:

If you guys wanna oh, I leave the rumble up. I don't give a shit.  

[02:57:59] Allen Marcus:

If you wanna keep going for a while, we'd like to have all of our friends join us for   after dinner and desserts. Maybe we'll, have some pie and coffee on the Benjamin Balderson YouTube channel. Pie and coffee.  

[02:58:12] Benjamin Balderson:

Punch and pie.  

[02:58:14] Allen Marcus:

I you know, what do what do Orthodox   members like to do? They do. Are they allowed to drink caffeine? It's punch and pie. It's definitely punch and pie. I was gonna say when you wake up and you, you feel you're, like, you're awake,   maybe try a wheatgrass shot, maybe get some spinach juice, Joe I think those are the Mormons.  

[02:58:33] Benjamin Balderson:

They don't do the caffeine.   Hold on. Sure. Yeah. You ever seen those videos all of it. Where there's a dude that would the dude go on a Mormon,   university campus   going, would you rather have coffee or kill a puppy?   They're like, oh, well, you can have coffee.   Like   Wow.   Immediately   programmed.   So I can't talk.  

[02:58:59] Allen Marcus:

So you you would rather kill a puppy? They're like, well, I can't I mean, I I could put the puppy in a bag. I could put a brick in the bag. I could seal the bag. And if the bag fell off a bridge into a river,   I don't know.   At least I'm not drinking an adult beverage with caffeine in it.  

[02:59:17] Unknown:

That that's some wild shit. And this is what I'm talking about. You don't put any real thought into the weird shit your religion's about.   Like, these people are fucking wild.   And and I'm not saying that, like, the or any of those guys are any better. I'm not. They're they're they're fucking worse if anything. They're just a bunch of drunk LARPers.  

[02:59:38] Allen Marcus:

I'm just saying if they woulda let the Jews eat shellfish or wear blended fabrics, they probably wouldn't be committing a genocide right now. I have to disagree with you there. I don't think they're drunk LARPers. I think they're actually drinking alcohol. So they're not pretending that they're drunk. They're actually drunk. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.  

[02:59:56] Benjamin Balderson:

Okay. That's an important clarification for the argument. That's fair. That's fair. I was just not a on,  

[03:00:02] Unknown:

powder Dusty's panel, and there was some lady that lives in   I can't remember which city she said in Utah. And she said fucking she was at Mitt Romney's house   before he was the fucking,   governor.   And she said that the parties there were absolutely   wild.   Wild. Lots of underage girls   fucking getting fucked up.   Right. Like, you know, they are definitely   not they're they aren't no fucking Amish. That's a fact. Alright.  

[03:00:35] Benjamin Balderson:

Alright, y'all. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna clear out both Thank you, guys. Thank you, Steve Bocaman, for  

[03:00:42] Allen Marcus:

for letting us,  

[03:00:44] Benjamin Balderson:

catch up with you. Thank you. Just hit me up whenever you're wrapping up, and I'll  

[03:00:50] Allen Marcus:

shut the stream down and all that kinda good stuff. Good night to rumble and just take it over to YouTube for a little a little intimate after  

[03:00:56] Benjamin Balderson:

after dog session. Alright. Well, if you're watching on the rumble,   go over to Benjamin Balderson's   YouTube channel.   I will drop that link   in the rumble chat before I dip out.   And then, yeah, I'll be   back at it  

[03:01:21] Unknown:

right now. We appreciate we're trying to get the, I did not put anything on my channel for a very long time, and so we had no watch hours.   And everybody wants to do the membership things and be able to do the super chats and all that. So we can't do that until we have enough watch hours, so we're trying to build them back up.   Thank you.  

[03:01:43] Allen Marcus:

Everyone on the Rockfin.  

[03:01:45] Benjamin Balderson:

Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I will  

[03:01:49] Allen Marcus:

A lot a lot of names there. I guess what happens on the I'm saying Rockfin. No. We're on Rumble. No. No. Yeah.   No. Rockfin. I think about Rockfin on YouTube after Rumble says good night. It's kind of a tongue a tongue twister there.  

[03:02:03] Benjamin Balderson:

Yep. Later, y'all. Broadcasting streaming.  

[03:02:08] Unknown:

Worst sticking around. Night, Steve.   Marcus and I are gonna stick around and BS some more.  

[03:02:13] Allen Marcus:

Yeah. I, I can read some emails I got. Here's one from, Natalie Moore. It's about a website proposal. She says, hi. I'm following up on my previous email. Would you like me to send over a price list and quote? If you're interested, please respond. Best regards.   Previously, she said, hi. I hope everything is going well for you. Reach out to see if there's anything you'd like me to fix, redesign, rebuild, or create from scratch for a very reasonable price with an additional feature that might benefit the overall usability user experience, which usually leads to better sales. We are experts in web design, graphic design, PHP development, ecommerce design, WordPress development. Would you would you wanna price list, samples and a quote? I did not respond to Natalie Moore because I am myself a computer wizard and can do all this on my own.  

[03:02:52] Unknown:

Exactly.   As you guys can see from, like, the very awesome clip that we made   earlier.   And while can you fucking read and speak fast? I I can read that fast.   I can I can read crazy fast, but my mouth will not keep up? And then and then I'll end up stumbling over words because I'm reading, like, a word five words ahead or six or seven or whatever, and my mouth is still behind, and I'll end up having to reset that shit.   It's crazy.   I don't  

[03:03:25] Allen Marcus:

I don't need to,   brag   or flash my CV, my curriculum vitae,   but I did go to broadcasting school.   Yeah. I did spend time in a radio   station,   a very large radio station.   I worked in the, information technology fields. I, was also into the the broadcasting, television,   radio, and film.   And part of the enunciation   is from choir and learning to speak, and also listen to a lot of Scatman.   If we'd like to get into   white elephant   sales and auctions auctioneering, I I do have a history of attending   auctions   for animals   and other objects.   And those auctioneers have to speak with a certain enunciation   and diction and the speed to get the sales.  



[03:04:26] Unknown:

The auctioneer was going by mile a minute.  

[03:04:29] Benjamin Balderson:

He's   I'm convincing calling them out loud. Yeah.  

[03:04:33] Unknown:

That.  

[03:04:36] Allen Marcus:

Did you, sell some, Red Bulls?  

[03:04:39] Unknown:

Yeah. I sold two of them. Like, well, no Bulls yet. The Bull somebody what did want the Bull, but they,   found a Bull that was closer. They were quite a ways away.   And there's a few other people thinking about it. No. I sold two of the two of the cows. I got too many. My herd was getting too big,   and so I had to get rid of a couple. But sold them to a real nice couple that   wants to start milking in homesteading. And they got moved out to a real nice green pasture, and, actually, the area they live in is super famous for having milk cows because it's a the   it's always moist and yet and lush and,   the the just the grazing out there is just insane. They never have to put out hay or nothing. These cows are eating fresh green grass all year long. Just loving life, and they got to go out there.  

Yeah. Because Lowell or, Cheney had a daughter,   and then,   sunshine was getting ready to punch out a kid. And then that means that in buttercup was coming time to breed, and I'm going, I that's just wow. Too damn many. And then Lola just had that calf not long ago. I'm like, I got too many cows.   Too many, and the feed costs are ridiculous   at this point. The, you know,   even though the prices of a lot of things have went down, California, especially in this niche of it, they're super greedy people,   and they don't they once the price goes up, they don't hardly go down. That's that's just how that is.  

[03:06:15] Allen Marcus:

So,   time for an uncomfortable question I have for you.   I know some people raise   cows for   meat and eat them.   Yep. This is sort of a a very interesting aspect of, Balderson that   kinda makes it hard to classify him into a specific,   category   to be   a farmer and a homesteader   and also   rumor has it   vegan, vegetarian. What's the deal? Vegetarian.  

[03:06:49] Unknown:

Yep. Yep. Okay.  

[03:06:51] Allen Marcus:

Interesting.  

[03:06:52] Unknown:

Yep. It's a it's a symbiotic lifestyle,   where   yeah. That was hard, and that's just part of why we haven't been quick about selling the cows and why I'm selling one bull,   because we're looking for people that are not just trying to go slaughter the animals. Like, these these folks are,   gonna milk them and whatnot. No. I'm not saying that they might not have calves and end up eating a calf or selling it. I I don't got no control of that. This is not something I can I don't, I don't fashion that I can control the entire damn world?   People are gonna do what they do. But for me, I live very symbiotically   on my farm. So while I'll eat eggs,   drink milk,   the thing that, like,   what's that crazed group that goes around that animal rights group? PETA. The the PETA people and things don't understand is 99%   of eggs, birds don't even want them. Like, they they literally lay them all over the damn place, and they'll just be walking along, and it's almost like, oh,   yeah. Yeah. Look at that. And then they just keep on moving. They don't even care.  



[03:08:01] Allen Marcus:

Also, sometimes I have a hummus with my pita.  

[03:08:05] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   And that egg is not actually alive.   The   mom has to sit on it   for three days before the life activates in that. And so that egg would just set would have just sat there. It's not hurting anybody to eat that,   in any way, shape, or form.   The cows enjoy getting milked. It's a very nice symbiotic thing. I take care of them and pet them and   and give them medical attention   and make sure they have a nice life. And,   they enjoy getting milked and I milk them and it's it's all very nice. And, the alpacas,   I I shear that they enjoy that. In fact, I gotta get on shearing this Friday tomorrow.  

They enjoy it. That's probably half the reason why they won't get away from the house right now. They're like, you're gonna shear us, dude? And I go around and collect their poop, and then they and I feed them. So that they've   you know, it's just a symbiotic   lifestyle   where rather than being predatory toward these things, I live in a in a give and take relationship with them   and,   which doesn't mean that I'm, like, some weird hippie   about it. Like, you know, I love my animals. No doubt. And I and I take   husbandry is extremely serious.  

And the same token, I'm very realistic about it.   You know, sometimes   animals are not humans. They don't think like us.   I assure they're capable of emotion and things like that a %.   And you couldn't convince me that they don't have a soul. Like, that's the thing that Christians think. But are they a human? No.   No.   And so I'm not like that about it, but   I believe in living in a symbiotic,   relationship with the with everything around. The same with my land. I plant my land. I take care of it. I feed it. It feeds me. It's a nice system for everybody. I don't understand the predatory systems at all.  

[03:10:16] Allen Marcus:

In my times,   in biblical studies in college, again, I was a double major there for television, film,   radio broadcasting,   and   biblical   studies.   So I've had this knowledge and understanding   the Genesis   story with   Adam and Eve and their sons, Cain and Abel.   And the story goes   that Abel was much more into   gardening and gathering.   Cain   being more into animal husbandry   and eating   the flesh of the animal.   Being   that Cain   slayed his brother because of the violence and the rage and the murder, it was like he was murdering the animals,   and then he murders his brother.  

I think maybe   you're resonating with that story in a way that   other Christians maybe haven't resonated in the same way.  

[03:11:22] Unknown:

Absolutely.   And I I to add to that story even,   weirdly,   Scotty's very last,   litter of puppies.   So Scotty had two back to back litters, and it was not intentional.   Horny animals get crazy. Same as with the bulls from earlier. Horny animals get nuts.   And Scotty and Tierra had gotten together,   and she got pregnant. And it was too soon in between, so she started looking like Skeletor because she had a a litter of pups, and then they voraciously ate off her and sucked the life out of her. And she didn't have time to recover and then was immediately pregnant, and those those were eating the life out of her.   And   then she starts breastfeeding, and and it's even more. So I started going and getting, like, cow hearts and   liver and things like that   raw from the from the,   butcher and all that.  

And   that litter of pups was   so much more aggressive   than all of their other pups. Like, it was disturbing at one before   they were able to be given away and old enough to be given away, we had our whole house   partitioned   off where you could almost not keep two of these puppies together. They would just go at it. And with a viciousness,   I've never witnessed that of puppies.   Like, it was wild.   And, like, Freya is one of them, and she's the one who sits on my lap most of the time and to give me kisses. And she's a sweetheart,   and she's outgrowing that. But during that time period when they were just eating raw meat, holy   shit.  

Like and when you're handing it to her, Skye's whole face would, like, peel back and, like,   and, like, you you knew she was a   like, and dogs aren't even a full predator. Dogs are scavengers.   You know? The the cats are actual true predators.   Like, you cats aren't even really supposed to eat much anything else. Yeah. You you a little murderer. You're so cute, and you're gonna turn into such a little murderer.  

[03:13:37] Allen Marcus:

All the birds in the backyard,   watch out.   Yep. Yep. Mice once all the mice are eaten and they they go tired of the taste of mice   and squirrels and rabbits, and they go hunting birds.   Kinda becomes a sport for them.   The larger the the cat gets, the more   agile they get in climbing trees and jumping into   into the birds' nests. Hunting birds becomes a fun thing for them to do. I mean, this is  

[03:14:08] Unknown:

I'm a cute little murderer.   I will kill you.   Hi, Sage Kitty. See, Sage is looking at me like, what the fuck are we doing here, man?  

[03:14:25] Allen Marcus:

Just trying to have a conversation   about biological   realities,   food chains, hierarchies, these types of things?  

[03:14:36] Unknown:

Yeah. And it is life. You know? That's it. From a very basic level, like, you can literally just take water. They call it the arcades of water and ferment it and watch it under a microscope, an entire biome will will develop.   And then of that by in in that biome, it'll start out with   creatures, and then other creatures will come appear and eat those ones and so on and so forth. And everything is just eating off of the   like, that's literally all this world is is dead thing or live things eating off the last generation of dead things,   like, and just recycling it over and over and over.  

You know? Even even the entire civilizations,   you come to find out that these major cities yes. I see your ass. It is great. Thank you very much. Yep. I got it.   Thank you, Sage. Yeah. Sorry. Cameron was make sure. Hi, Sage.   Yeah. I I I caught you showing me your butt. It's everybody got it. Are you very proud of yourself? Sweden is is changing some other laws to prevent their cats from  

[03:15:44] Allen Marcus:

showing their,  

[03:15:46] Unknown:

rear ends on They they they do on the butthole spark, the butthole tassels, like the booby tassels where they put little sparkle over their buttholes.  

[03:15:56] Allen Marcus:

People   who use cameras to live stream,   their flesh   are being told they can't do that from Sweden   legally anymore.   So the cultural  

[03:16:09] Unknown:

Oh, they're they're gonna shut down, like, OnlyFans   type situations?  

[03:16:13] Allen Marcus:

Streaming sites, content creation. Sure. Sure. So some of those some of those women who   Interesting. Are doing that or no, leaving that country to try and become citizens of other countries   that are allowing   content production.  

[03:16:27] Unknown:

Now when they say that though,   I mean, that does seem drastic.   But also in Europe, if you left Europe,   that would be drastic. Like, the state the countries in Europe are so freaking small.   Like, when I was over in Germany   on in the weekends off, you could get a train a train ride to, like, five different countries   and, you know, all in one day go and stop and visit stuff and do touristy stuff in each one of those countries.   And, you know, the trains are fast as fuck, and they take off right now.   But you can go to, like, five different countries and go fuck around and have a good time. Right. And that's where, like, the Tate brothers were traveling across European  

[03:17:10] Allen Marcus:

country lines, and they were accused of bringing women with them. And they'd that was classified as a trafficking   incident.  

[03:17:18] Unknown:

Well, in The United States, if you take a unwilling or or underage person   across state lines, that's trafficking. Right. You get that same charge.  

[03:17:29] Allen Marcus:

Right.   Just looking at the the culture in in 2025   across every country,   things are things are shifting. We talked about Nancy Pelosi and, you know, stock price movements going up and down, and people making money off of that. People are   benefiting   across the the cultural   charts where things are becoming more conservative in areas and more progressive in other areas.  

[03:17:59] Unknown:

Well, that sounds that sounds to see Europe Europe   is so very often held up as, like, the progressive   head. You know, like, when they talk when you see these, liberals   that they almost exclusively   cite Northern European,   countries for, where to model ourselves   after, you know, super cucked countries.  

[03:18:23] Allen Marcus:

Netherlands, Amsterdam, red light district.   You know? And Everywhere on the streets, that type of thing. Like  

[03:18:31] Unknown:

Yeah. And they they,   cite what is it? Like, Finland or something that's supposed to be the   happiest country in the world, but they also have horrible,   suicide rates and depression rates. Like, I'm not sure what they just make up this happiness index shit.   But it's interesting then for the that that to be those countries and Sweden's included in that to be the liberal champions   and for those countries to now go, yeah, we have got to put a fucking brakes on this degeneracy.   Like, we have got to, you know,   like, we are going the wrong direction.  



[03:19:13] Allen Marcus:

I had spoken in the past about   America, The United States Of America being the great Satan six six six   and the export of   the Skittles,   the LGBTQ   plus, you know, that sort of   thing. And we are within   pride month, I guess, June being considered the month of pride   and seeing how that's being pushed back against.   We haven't yet talked about the   Muslim   Turkey, that sort of country, and that   empire.   What are they up to? Bros,  

[03:19:56] Unknown:

there's been a huge move toward the Muslims.  

[03:19:59] Allen Marcus:

Yes.   Moose,   Muslims.   Like a moose lodge sort of   a group of religious people.   Yep.   And with   orthodoxy coming out of Russia,   Turkey having   a,   presence towards the Middle East, the historical   cradle of civilization, and there's an ancient history there.   And a quite complicated history. Of course, we're not mentioning one monotheistic   group   because they own the Hollywood Reporter.   And Western media   being owned by   maybe two or three different   people, men, families. I don't know.   Getting out certain news stories becomes impossible.   I don't know who owns the BBC.  

Is it, King Sausage Fingers?   It's like state propaganda for them.   So with America   being the great Satan six six six,   China,   Russia,   all the other countries are able to say, look   at that country   of depravity,   poverty,   and low morals, and low happiness, and   low outcomes for low income people,   and they're all living off of government handouts. No one's working. Everyone's   or substituting themselves. Everyone's living off of, you know, government handouts and food stamps and social security and disability, and they can't even walk. They're riding on mobility scooters to Walmart to pick up chicken nuggets, Doritos, and Mountain  

[03:22:09] Unknown:

Dew? Yeah. Because if they are not Ozempic, they're so fat they can't walk anymore.  

[03:22:15] Allen Marcus:

Ozempic has legitimate uses, and   people who legitimately needed it   have it. So now the market is open to get everybody else   on Ozempic.  

[03:22:26] Unknown:

Yeah.   They should have a pill for all the lifestyle diseases so you can just live as degenerately as you as possible and   and have a magic pill. In fact, they should just, like, roll them all up into one.   So they just call it the degeneracy pill.   It's it it's absolutely insane.   The the and and the things that are the Ozempic's doing to people,   and that they still they're just like, yeah. But it lets me be skinny and   be however I want. Like,   wow.   And it's just killing people.   Killing them. Like, holy shit.  

[03:23:18] Allen Marcus:

Stories of   people who have lived their entire life on birth control pills are now being revealed as   there are   young women deciding to own their bodily autonomy and not put foreign   objects in the form of birth control into their stomach.   Going back to a natural rhythm, trying to sync with   lunar patterns, finding   a regular rhythm again is something that   many people are doing.   They're probably not blogging about it and vlogging about it and talking about it and tweeting about it and putting on blue sky and threads in Instagram.  

[03:24:00] Unknown:

And if they are, it's not getting promoted. It's not being promoted.  

[03:24:04] Allen Marcus:

Correct.   And that was kind of the the danger of TikTok.   You know, the Chinese algorithm was promoting natural health and things that were   going   against   pharmaceutical   companies' interests. Had to shut them down.   Had to buy them. Had to force some   sort of takeover. And because it was mentioning a monotheistic religion   in a critical light   saying that people that have, six pointed star emblems around their necks have a certain ideology   that doesn't like other people that   lived in a strip of land.  

[03:24:44] Unknown:

Dude, if they make Greta into a martyr like Steve said, oh, man. Where did how do you even land on that fight? Like, wow.   That is so   weirdly political and fucking hyped up in such   wow.   You can't even it's just dirty. The whole thing is just dirty.   You can't pick a good side. There is no such thing. That's the thing you got that's the thing everybody needs to understand when presented with these things.   They don't go do you want a or b?   Don't pick either of those. C is available.   Fuck off with your shit.  

[03:25:24] Allen Marcus:

Right. We we can shame   a narcissistic   man for,   you know, wanting   a dog and adopting   a 13   old girl with Down syndrome. This is not   this is not a great thing. I mean,   you know, if you wanted to do it out of charity and out of love, do it privately.   But to exploit a 13 year old girl,   days old people, not 13 years. She's not even 13 yet. She's, like, six years old, and she's being   photographed in a bathing suit with a man   in a bikini as he's kissing her on the lips, and this is love and freedom and beauty and progressive politics,   and people are celebrating it.  

The disgusting thing is   anyone who says this is gross, you're exploiting this girl, you should be ashamed of yourself. Those comments are deleted as hate speech.   They are the most sane comments   that you will read, and they're being deleted as hate speech.  

[03:26:34] Unknown:

Dude, look at that when the Dalai Lama had that little boy suck on his tongue. Told that little boy to suck his tongue.   It took them, like, three minutes to completely reroute that story. And now you're a you're a weird asshole for being against their culture.   Now you fucking serious right now?  

[03:26:59] Allen Marcus:

Yeah. It's weird.   It is weird. And normal people   saying normal things,   their comments are being deleted.   And Reddit was   absolutely   enamored   with the repost of the story from 2019   about the man from Italy   who wanted to be a single mom   and raise a little girl   and write a book on it and go on tour   and go on the news   and be held up as a hero,   not being evaluated   for   mental illnesses,   for mental health struggles, for   narcissism, for psychopathy,   for being   wealthy enough   to not have to,   you know, have a real job. His job is being a mother   to   a girl with   we'd call special needs.  



[03:28:10] Unknown:

No. In fact, if you speak out against it, you're you're a bad person. And if you try Yep. Not   going with their with their delusions, which they actually and there's a point I'll contend with. They aren't delusional.   They know that like, these dudes don't you know, these dudes know they aren't a girl. These girls know they aren't a dude. They aren't delusional.   They're they're they're   putting on a play   and then forcing you to go through with to to play with them. They don't believe that they're girls. They know that   they know what they are.  

And   can you imagine   if I just walked up to you and said made up some crazed shit?   Like,   oh, I'm actually I'm actually fucked   Flash Gordon.   And you're an asshole if you won't won't act like I'm Flash Gordon and I have Flash Gordon powers and shit like that. Like, that's just fucking insane. Nobody in the world would do that. But in this instance   and and it's weird as shit to me that it it's over such a very sexual   sexual thing, sexual identity.   That's absolutely insane to me. Freaking,   why   as grown adults who are over, like Steve was saying earlier, over 25,   are you so wrapped up still in your genitals? Why is your whole life   revolve around what you do with your genitals?  

Yeah. You can't you can't be,   just a normal ass person,   and   that kind of thing's private.  

[03:29:49] Allen Marcus:

Did I state for the record, in my explanation of,   explanation of,   the green vault guy,   married to a man, adopted two boys?  

[03:30:00] Unknown:

Oh, fuck. No. You didn't. Oh, I know.  

[03:30:03] Allen Marcus:

So there are some important details I forgot to mention in the story of the Edward Snowden   release of the WikiLeaks  

[03:30:11] Unknown:

Julian Assange. Wait. Wait. That story if that story was real, would have been, like, Gary Webb   and Barry,   whatever the hell, Barry something. Barry Seal.   And Gary and Gary Webb at the end of that story were things the government really truly didn't want released,   got released.   He he, you know, sue suicided himself a couple times in the back of his own head.   Like Uh-huh. I thought it was a,  

[03:30:39] Allen Marcus:

Barry Manatzner.  

[03:30:41] Unknown:

A Barry what?  

[03:30:43] Allen Marcus:

His his pseudonym was Barry Manatzner.  

[03:30:46] Unknown:

Right?   So the this situation is literally no different.   If the government didn't want that,   released,   then mister Greenwald   would have   decided that his life was no longer worth living.  

[03:31:06] Allen Marcus:

So   the idea that this is acting as a limited hangout, it's all kind of this   drama   drama queens   on the world stage,   creating a a release of information that is   non nonthreatening.   It's not state secret. It's not a covert operation. It's not war plans. It's available information that was gonna be leaked anyway,   and it makes the enemies of the state look   bad, and it makes the state   look great in the situation.   So the Edward Snowden leaks with the NSA and the the Prism scandal and the, Five Eyes where they they spy on you and they they save all your information.   You know? And then there's the, the Bradley Manning situation where where now he's connected to Grimes,   who's connected to Elon Musk. They all know each other. They all talk with each other. It's such a small world for these stage players   in their roles. Bradley   Manning leaking secrets,   becoming Chelsea Manning.  

And now you can't Never telling a friend.   Well, that's the name Chelsea Manning.   Mhmm. Mhmm. So this is Glenn Greenwald   being chosen for the role of   journalist revealing the Edward Snowden. Again, Snowden is a great pseudonym for   a for an actor whose role is to leak secrets.   Julian Assange being connected to a strange cult   as well out of Australia.  

[03:32:42] Unknown:

Well and then also picking up,   PDF   file charges.  

[03:32:48] Allen Marcus:

Again,   this is all part of the drama and keeping them in the news cycle.   So the purpose of this   is to prevent you from holding politicians accountable for   filling potholes,   balancing budget,   making sure that   people are   earning an income and and feeding themselves   and not having to sign up for   food stamps and EBT   to get bread and cheese and milk and,   you know, stinky food. Turnip line.   Yep.  

[03:33:23] Unknown:

Nobody likes turnips.  

[03:33:25] Allen Marcus:

Right.   Well, you know, I need a turnip.  

[03:33:29] Unknown:

You know what? I don't know anything about this turnip  

[03:33:33] Allen Marcus:

to   a to   a plantain festival.   What what a tuber   to a a tuber potluck?   Eating those beets,   pickled beets.  

[03:33:48] Unknown:

I could do without beets too.  

[03:33:52] Allen Marcus:

Not for me. Well, then what what do you eat?  

[03:33:55] Unknown:

I I you know what? I I have a friend that makes really killer borscht,   and that's you know? But it's not like something I could eat, like, more than once a year.   I eat a lot of, broccoli, a lot of cauliflower, a lot of asparagus,   a lot of peppers, a lot of onions, a lot of garlic,   and a ton of cheese.   And then,   it'll switch between noodles and,   jasmine rice. I like the jasmine rice.   And then,   you know, different sauces like tomato,   a lot of marinara type sauce, especially out of our garden from last year.  

[03:34:38] Allen Marcus:

Pastas.  

[03:34:39] Unknown:

Pizza. Yeah. We eat a lot of pizza.   Pastas.   Then, Christy makes, like, different   more Asian style things with, like, jasmine rice and then just vegetables and broccoli and asparagus and Lots in Lexington.   Yeah.   Honestly, we've had a bunch of people eat here, and, like, we're in the Midwest where I'm from.   They they purposely   make vegetarian food just horrifying.   Like,   you you really   couldn't do a worse job of doing that, and we have people eat here.   And they're like, oh, wow. This is really good. And they don't even now granted, yeah, there are some of them like my wife. My wife needs to eat me.   It's we kinda do a blood type diet, and she, honest to goodness, gets sick if she doesn't.  

She spent a long time as a vegetarian, and it cost her a lot,   in her   health. It's she, her teeth are not great because of it.   Her hair was super thin. Her nails were super thin.   She does not do well, and I and I honestly think it has something to do with   absorption of absorption   of minerals   through the fat. And I think some   types,   some people that do it better through vegetables, and some people do it better through through animal fats.   So you're  

[03:36:06] Allen Marcus:

of avocado. Telling everybody   to follow your strict diet?  

[03:36:11] Unknown:

No. I don't go I don't bang on about everybody needs to be it.   You know, go Santos Benacci style.   Oh, you're a dirty meat eater.   You   kill   animals.   You hate blah blah blah. Like, yeah, it's   like, yeah. Get the fuck out of here, Santos. You look like you've been held in the one ring for, like, ten years too long, dude. You're starting to turn into full on into Golem. Chill the fuck out of here. Alright. So, you know, you're we're trying to do an intervention.   Yeah.   Yeah.  

[03:36:46] Allen Marcus:

Trying to,   talk to,   Jay diarrhea,   do an intervention. I'm trying to talk to,   miss Andrew Wilson Beach Volleyball   on the survivor island of,   Castaway there.  

[03:37:00] Unknown:

I I I would not have done an intervention for Jay Dyer.   I do not consider him worth   an intervention. I definitely would have debated him. Well, okay. So let me let me I I don't consider him a worthy person. I really don't. I think that that guy is just trash.  

[03:37:16] Unknown:

And Not to him specifically,  

[03:37:19] Allen Marcus:

but to people who   are diarrhea curious   and wondering   what the channel's about, what what these creators are about. If if they haven't   paid attention long enough   to   these content creators. I mean,   diarrhea goes back,   I think 2007   was when I first subscribed to his blog,   following the guy and and seeing, you know, his highs and lows and,   you know, people that are just tuning in for the first time because I see him on the Alex Jones show or they see him with Sam. And these people   haven't been with these other individuals that we are specifically   critiquing because we   we we love them so much that we follow them to see what they're up to from time to time.  

And they have   taken turns in their journey and and u turns and roundabouts, and they've gone into directions that are   led by Superchats and   funding and   the generosity   of orthodox   folks keeps them well set.   Whether or not they are strictly orthodox or not doesn't matter, but when they play one on the Internet and get paid to do so,   that's a that's a critique that I have personally. If   if that's gonna be challenged, fine. Come on and send an email and challenge.   But it's to the listeners   who are trying to figure these these people out and and navigate   these personalities.  



[03:38:57] Unknown:

Well, anybody that   to be part of their group, you can't disagree with them,   and you can't ever talk to anybody else about the things that your group says.   That that for starts is disturbing. For starts. Like, right out the gate. Like, that that He wasn't always like that.  

[03:39:18] Allen Marcus:

No. He was not. This is a man that you have,   you know, breathe the same,  

[03:39:23] Unknown:

hotbox with. Right? And you've You got him so high, he couldn't fucking find his way out of a van. It was You were in the t p together, passing the peace fight back and forth. Passing the peace fight. Yeah. Hey. You know, Marty was a real decent guy, you know, and,   a little weird.   He's a new apology guy or a a geometry guy, and those guys are all a little weird.  

[03:39:45] Allen Marcus:

Right. You know? And   to to be fair and balanced and,   you know, nuance in this conversation,   there are certain   personality types. I don't know if it's a young, young archetype or   Myers Briggs or, you know, Enneagram. I don't I don't know how to,   use a leery interpersonal   critique or analysis of these personalities, but I can I can tell you people have   different   operating systems in their brain running? There are certain individuals who   are constantly   calculating   numbers and quotients and   algorithms in their brain. They're counting ceiling tiles and steps, not stepping on cracks, and it gets to be, like, an obsessive compulsive thing where they have a running monologue in their brain, and they just see numbers everywhere.   And numbers are tied to letters, are tied to colors, are tied to days of the week, and they have these   synesthesia   sort of things and smells and songs and symbolic relationships, and it's all in their brain. And then they start talking about it publicly, and they become prophetic cult leaders and people like, that's real interesting.  

Tell me about the tarot   and the   and the syllogisms and the symbolisms and the solipsisms and the solipsisms and the solipsisms.  

[03:41:03] Unknown:

What did Sheree put in the chat here? Closing words from Santos? Is it's is Santos, like, done?  

[03:41:11] Allen Marcus:

Closing words? Here's a clip. We'll look at it. Yeah. Send that to an email,   and we'll get it.   We're, past the point of sharing clips on the stream.   We're just doing a a talking people down from the we have the cliff here and putting people back on solid ground of reality in our own minds. Again, these these are our perspectives   open to challenge them at any time.  

[03:41:40] Unknown:

Absolutely.   Anyone in the ortho bros and I actually I actually like Jim Bob.   Any of the ortho bros wanna come on and pick fight?   Go ahead.   Let's do this. I got no problems. I don't really see it happening. Like I said,   it's like a fake   it's a super full manly   cult, the Ortho Bro thing,   where   you literally can't make up your own mind on anything.   And   you can't it's not like the church even. The funny thing about it is   they still do to at least some degree. They just got a bumper bowl with it. Because even inside the Orthodox church, there's vast disagreements and arguments between these church   this church hierarchy.  

And so they choose which pick and choose which ones of,   that they're gonna follow.   So you're just not you're just not,   taking the actual time just to study the shit yourself   and and figure it out for your damn self. Because there's a good chance that the shit that's getting spread about doesn't even match anything that's being said in the   in the book,   anything that's historically accurate.  

[03:42:58] Allen Marcus:

Right. And here's where I   caution   listeners   when someone has an answer   to every question   in an absurdly   confident and stuck up sort of way,   I'd be I'd laugh. My first reaction would be to laugh.   To laugh and laugh and laugh to say,   you have an answer to every question, and you are the expert   in every area of discussion.   Someone in Rockfin   asked about Lucifer and,   you know, the documents of Lucifer being planet Venus, and, you know, we could we could talk about Lucifer from our perspective.   It's gonna take us, like, you know, a week or two or three to, you know, gather some information and and put some thoughts together and have, something to say about it.  

[03:43:50] Unknown:

But if you know what something something nuance to say about it anyways. Chat, and and we'll have an a definitive answer as soon as we receive the super chat. That's how that works. We can't we can't do super chats yet.  

[03:44:03] Allen Marcus:

That's kind of a dick move. Not with that limiting attitude we can't.   I mean, I believe in higher powers to transfer funds and value money and miracles to email addresses and,   you know, it's a possibility. It absolutely is.  

[03:44:20] Unknown:

And, yes, absolutely   absolutely everybody wants to do that. And Rosanna.   And that's you bet. If you wanna do that, then we'll absolutely do that and and involve it.   You know, I'm I'm ready to I I I do I don't see   the whole,   the so the   that morning star conversation,   that needs to be a conversation anyways. Like, how when that whole nonsense where Venus part of the year is the morning star and part of the year, the evening star, The sun is the morning star.   The sun is the morning star. When when I get up in the morning,   the sun is the star that did that shit. It's like, hey. It's daytime now, man. Wait a moment. In my cosmology,  

[03:45:09] Allen Marcus:

the morning star is the star that cries because morning has to do with death and sadness. So now you're stepping out Well, how would that oppose the evening?   I'm a night owl person.   So for me, when the sun rises, I'm in morning because my night is over, and I am sad.   You see my pale skin here? Well done, sir. Vampire,   but   there might be signs of sparkles in my eyes when I  

[03:45:41] Unknown:

You would not be a sparkly vampire.   Don't go there.   You don't wanna do it. Don't do it. Nobody wants to be a sparkle vampire.   That is the gay vampires.  

[03:45:53] Allen Marcus:

I've been to goth prom more times than I can count.  

[03:45:59] Unknown:

There's a goth prom?  

[03:46:00] Allen Marcus:

There   is a goth prom in Minneapolis. I it's been going on since before 02/2007.   I've attended a few of them. And in the, you know, twenty year period from my first goth prom when I had two dates, a blonde and a brunette,   to going,   independently in a black cowboy  

[03:46:21] Unknown:

hat. Have you been in Ground 0?  

[03:46:25] Allen Marcus:

Never went to Ground 0.   It was too radioactive for my taste.  

[03:46:30] Unknown:

A little too far,  

[03:46:31] Allen Marcus:

It was a   little too   weird.   You know, I didn't wanna get my my ass grabbed. I didn't wanna  

[03:46:39] Unknown:

I didn't wanna people's hands Is that entirely a gay club now then?  

[03:46:44] Allen Marcus:

This is the point I'm   gently making.  

[03:46:49] Unknown:

So so when I was there in the nineties Yeah. You know, I'm 21.   I I'm not worried about things. I'm willing to check shit out. We went into this place, and that place   crazy. They had, like, cages on the walls and people whipping each other and shit. Right. And so   we go up to the bar to get a drink. I I go up. Well, my buddy, Mark, he goes upstairs, goes he well, he starts going upstairs to go check it out.   And I look over when I as we're going that way, this part of why I steer to the bar and I see this upside down Pink Triangle.   Mhmm. And I'm like and I don't know what that means, but some alarms are going off in my head.  

Bartender and I decided to get a drink before I go finish meandering around. And I was like, hey,   what's that Pink Triangle mean there? And he's like, well, that's the gay section up there. Is it facing up or down? It was facing down   And,   it wasn't more than two seconds later. Mark came just fucking screaming down those fucking stairs, face flushed red. I was laughing so fucking hard. Oh, that was great. Yes. So for  

[03:47:57] Allen Marcus:

cisgendered   straight   guys who are like, yeah. I like,   I like goth music. I like,   girls who wear black clothes. I'm gonna go see if I can dance with them. That subculture   has gotten to a point where they are,   reveling   in their   I'm trying to find the word. I haven't phrased this out loud before. But   they wanna make straight white guys not feel welcome.   They wanna scare them off   this sort of thing. And there were people who were like, yeah. You know, whatever. I can just go and, you know, listen to music and dance and drink absinthe and smoke clothes. What it's fun. It's fine. It's fine. But over time,   those people were less and less welcome, so the events were held at gay bars and the saloon and this type of thing. So any   man who was like, you know, whatever. I'm just here for music and dancing and fun and, you know, peep fire dancers. Insights.  

Yeah. Right. So the tourists were   scared out of their gourd to,   you know, to   that sort of thing.   And then going to those events, the people that were there were not there to make new friends.   They weren't gonna talk to you. They weren't gonna exchange email addresses and become pen pals.   They were gonna stare at you and growl at you and stomp on your toes and,   you know,   they weren't there to make friends with men.  

[03:49:34] Unknown:

If you're gonna stomp on my toes and do things like that, we're gonna have to go Pantera mosh pit with this.   I've been to bars where it's a mosh pit. It's alright. Mhmm.  

[03:49:44] Allen Marcus:

Yeah.  

[03:49:46] Unknown:

We can deal with that.   Yeah. Cool.   No. It was not my first time.   That's crazy. So   and actually not shocking at all because when you look at it, those guys are the most violent and the most crazed.   And I do believe part of that is because they don't have violence in in their youth. A lot of them are raised by the single mothers, the the,   the the not single mothers, but it's two mothers, shit like that.   Boys   because of our greater capacity for violence,   we have   to, at a young age, have the ability to express that and then learn from that expression.   And so that gives you the opportunity to control that. You understand that   there that that needs to be something withheld   until   a very specific points in time. And that when you go just splashing that about that this is a problem. When you don't ever use it,   you end up building up, and these guys end up becoming you know, this is part of why I mean, how is it run around, and they they had the whole punch of Nazi, and they felt,   so so   vindicated and justified, and they're wanting to bring violence to other people for, different ideologies.  

And the thing is is that was definitely the the,   slippery slope type thing.   And   all that's done is as that Overton window has moved left further and further,   more people,   it's acceptable to bring violence, to bring nastiness to them,   and that's okay.   Around here, we have all kinds of them. They're super, super crazed leftist,   and they're the first ones to threaten to kill you and just wild shit like that. You're like,   dude.   Right. What's been looking while you're in the motherfucker?   Like, don't make me take your little beanpole arm and swing you about and smash you into things. You should have learned how to do violence before you threatened it. You you goofy fucks.  

[03:51:59] Allen Marcus:

Yes. And I will say   that   personal   anecdote   sharing the short reel about Wayne McCroy and   and yourselves talking about Lilith,   kind of a a schizo thing. It's multilayered talking about Red Bull will give you wings. Red Bull could be the rough or whatever. It's a work of art, and it it has multiple layers. It's designed to be an intention grabbing,   triggering   thing to say, I wanna know more. There's a type of person that says, I wanna know more. There's another type of person to say,   that is making me feel like   right wing,   white male,   patriarchal, fascist,   Yahtzee playing, dice rolling,   boot wearing, authoritarian,   fascist,   and they just block it and report it and hate it. I was kicked out of groups for sharing it. My posts were removed from sharing it from these groups. They didn't they didn't wanna even engage   with the message. They didn't like the tone.  

They didn't like that two white guys we're talking about, Lilith.  

[03:53:05] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.   And it goes back to our conversation with, GLO. And be real about it, not just talking about it. Right. Because that would have been fine if we were just propagating the the their story instead of actually looking at the reality of it and the history of it Mhmm. Then it would have been fine.  

[03:53:26] Allen Marcus:

Right.   Quick question from chat. Sherry's asking,   Charie. Ma'am, Charie.   I don't do French very well. Baggett   is about all I get. Does, do I listen to Christian Death the band? Yeah. I listened to all of them. You know, I had a vampire freaks profile from day one. I was actually, I think the name of the band is Christian Beth Death because she says Christian Death, the band.  

[03:53:50] Unknown:

So I think that the actual name would be Christian Death. I'm familiar with  

[03:53:55] Allen Marcus:

all the music, listen to all the songs at least once.   Again,   not that not to toot my own Gabriel's horn and,   prophesy myself as the leader of,   Mormonism or anything,   but I I do dabble in a lot of different interests.  

[03:54:13] Unknown:

Read a lot of different interviews?   Nice.   Are they comfy? I've I've I've wondered.  

[03:54:21] Allen Marcus:

You know, living in Minnesota, I wear them in the wintertime. I don't wear them in the summertime.  

[03:54:26] Unknown:

Oh, in the summertime, you're not holy?  

[03:54:28] Allen Marcus:

You know, I'm a Mormon for maybe three months out of the year.  

[03:54:32] Unknown:

I always drink good underwear also.  

[03:54:35] Allen Marcus:

Right. But then, you know, I I do clash because sometimes I I drink   warm   black tea with caffeine in it while I'm wearing my magic Mormon underwears.  

[03:54:45] Unknown:

I do not drink caffeinated teas.   I could almost be, on that on that. I actually don't, except for cigarettes. I guess if I give up cigarettes,   I don't,   drink any teas or alcohol or any of that. I'd have to give up cigarettes, which I'm almost which I'm doing pretty good.   I bought a bag, and I'm still smoking that same bag, that one, whenever I bought it, like, a month ago or some shit.  

[03:55:10] Allen Marcus:

Yeah. So Maishree is asking for pictures of myself as a youth. You know, I do have my, you know, pictures of me as a teenager. I did have a a blog where I took selfies and shared stuff, and, you know, I was doing this in, like, 02/2004.   Having a personal web page   and posting selfies and, you know, my my goth fashion stuff and, you know, whatever. And,   they remain online forever because   other people took them and posted them to their website. And then I took that website and put it on archive.org   because it was on a Angelfire   or   a GeoCities account, and   they were trying   to make me look like a foolish person for, you know, wearing makeup and crazy costumes and things. But apparently We talk about are we talking about Europe McGirt?  



[03:56:04] Unknown:

No. The the Yurt McGirt did this. He Yurt McGirt was making fun of him for fucking all that shit. Oh, for for wearing a wizard hat and being a computer wizard?  

[03:56:14] Allen Marcus:

Yeah. You know, I'm you you know, it's a funny thing, and I I make fun of myself for being such a computer   wizard.   It's not an insult. It's   it's   embarrassing for a grown man with a with a church and a yurt and land and a ministry and a tax exempt status to be making fun of a a lowly computer wizard with a wizard hat on and   a beard. I mean, that's not an epic   epic own. I don't feel like I was pwned by   a pastor or priest of a a Gnostic Academy.  

[03:56:51] Unknown:

I just  

[03:56:53] Allen Marcus:

think it's low I think it's lowly and cowardly to not   have   a conversation   face to face. And I was only dragged into this,   I don't know. Do we call it a beef or a I call it a carrot because it's like we're holding out the carrot stick and you're chasing after it, running in circles, and getting dizzy and not saying anything of value or addressing any of our concerns.   But losing sleep over it and sending emails   all throughout the night.  

[03:57:25] Unknown:

Oh, Yertie McGurdy.   Fucking 03:30 in the morning emails to some of the wild shit that he says.  

[03:57:33] Allen Marcus:

His goth poetry, though, is kind of interesting.   His acoustic guitar playing is   not for me. It's not my favorite.   But, again, you know, I can have my personal tastes.   I can like things and dislike things, and and I don't have to like the things that you like, and you don't have to like the things I like.   But we're not comparing shopping at Target or Walmart or Amazon or   Marv's True Value or Ace or   Lowe's or Home Depot. It's   other ideas that we're having here, and we're we're talking about the things that matter   and just trying to avoid the   misunderstandings.  



[03:58:18] Unknown:

Also clear things up when people say super dumb shit.  

[03:58:23] Allen Marcus:

You know, if you need to see them immediately,   paranoid American,   his episode 86, it's on my website, paranoid American eighty six.   He did an interview with me,   and I shared the I wouldn't call it revenge porn, but rather it was, like, they they made a hater website of me. So they they they stocked my online profile, found all of my   posts and things. Not that it was harder. I was hiding them, but, you know, I linked them and shared them publicly on the Internet in 02/2004.   And   they saved everything I put up and rehosted it and tried to recontextualize it and recycleize it and and make me look like a crazy person who's   just being a sincere   fan of life and music and art and photography,   deviant art and and using Photoshop to edit photos and just having interest and things.  

They were   upset   specifically   because I was just doing what I was doing, and   somehow it ran counter to what they were doing and it threatened their existence in some way. And they ganged up on me. It was an unfair fight, and   they didn't look   heroic or brave   for doing it. They were   just like online   ebullies, and it wasn't a good look for them.  

[03:59:49] Unknown:

Well, you know, when somebody is as comfortable with themselves as you are,   that's super hard for most people. They're very uncomfortable with themselves living the life that I do.   I actually get to see this quite a bit because I get people that come out here quite often and stay for extended periods of time.   Part of that because, obviously,   if you're gonna make your way clear the fuck out here,   it's not easy. You mean it. So you're gonna stay for a minute.   And,   pretty much across the board,   people can't handle even one night out here in silence. The   the silence of the forest and the land and the being stuck in their own thoughts and stuff.  

Within, like, two or within three days, every single one of them is like, yeah. I gotta go to town. What do you need to go to town for? All the food's here. All the stuff's here. Everything we need.   What do you need to go to town for? Do you know anybody in town? Do you have some kind of a meeting with a friend or something?   No. You just wanna go into some stores and buy some stuff and do stuff like that?   And that's that is the way it goes. Like, the these people don't can't handle themselves in any kind of way, can't handle being in their own heads. Most of them will end up downloading   stuff to watch   or downloading,   music, things like that before, I shut the power down.  

Because once the power shut down,   there ain't nothing there ain't nothing going on here. You ain't getting no signal. You aren't   watching those streams. You aren't listening to no music unless you've got, like, a CD,   a a Walkman, or something which people don't have anymore. Light a candle or read a paper book.   Yep.   Well, it's funny because then when you live a life like that and basically always have,   then you end up reading   a lot of books.   And then and then people are like, oh my god. You've read a lot of books. Well, nobody would have thought shit if you if you told them that you watched a fucking   hundred thousand TV shows or movies or something. Nobody thinks nothing. Ever made? Yeah.  

You know, that's that's watch every anime?   Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty unbelievable.  

[04:02:11] Allen Marcus:

Yeah.   Yep.  

[04:02:16] Unknown:

I was looking for a picture of young Balderson, but   can't seem to find it.   Put that on the  

[04:02:24] Allen Marcus:

put that   on the, o   f.  

[04:02:28] Unknown:

On my o f. You know   what I mean? That's exactly what's going that's exact that is how I actually make money. If you wanna see the fan photos,  

[04:02:38] Allen Marcus:

you know, that's, like, deep archive stuff. If, you know, if people wanna pay to join them, like, the fan club membership thing, that's fine.  

[04:02:47] Unknown:

All the girls are just dying to fucking see,  

[04:02:51] Allen Marcus:

right, and  

[04:02:52] Unknown:

ratifying fucking I mean material of,  

[04:02:57] Allen Marcus:

old man. Well, we can clarify our our stance on, you know, monetization   and   cash apps and GoFundMe's and   totally I you know, I get that.   I get that. If if people are like, you know,   here's $5 so I can see a picture of you as a as a as a teenager at a skill at concert, well, that's fine. If it's worth the $5, then that's fine. What you know, whatever. We're not yucking anyone's yums. We're not telling people how to spend their money.   That's totally fine. We're not against that. It's just at this point, we don't have it set up, so it's not a not a concern. I mean, maybe that's coming in the future. It's we we still go back and forth and back and forth on it.  

[04:03:36] Unknown:

I don't believe I've ever been to a skillet concert. You've never been to a No. I I you'd be hard pressed to find a picture of me at a skillet concert as I've never been to a skillet concert. Well, you know, here's here's what I would do. I would give you the  

[04:03:53] Allen Marcus:

Marcus Allen, Marcus experience. I've got bootleg videos   from Skillet Concerts from 02/1934.   I'll hook up the camcorder to the I really value. Sony CRT.   We'll sit down, and we'll listen to,   the skill song   Smile, which they played once and never released on CD. And I have a recording of it because I Oh, wow. Christian concert   to record the audio of which, you know, I wasn't supposed to do that.   You you dirty dog. You. You think I'm going to hell for that?  

[04:04:31] Unknown:

I I you know, does the bible say thou shall not   record, steal it,  

[04:04:38] Allen Marcus:

concert, copyrighted material? Store and store and retrieve   intellectual properties. You know, it's like, come on, guys.   Come on, guys.  

[04:04:49] Unknown:

Come on. How long ago could Sean and I have sent this? This is If I, you know, if I don't if I don't store scrolls and  

[04:04:57] Allen Marcus:

Coptic jars and put them on hillsides   in Mesopotamian   Valleys to be recovered in 1947   so that people can,   you know, recover narcissism and secret knowledges and things.   And then what am I even doing with my life if I'm not documenting my favorite Christian bands?  

[04:05:16] Unknown:

Mesopotamia.   Is Iron Maiden a Christian band?  

[04:05:22] Allen Marcus:

I think they cover Christian themes.   Are they a ministry band? Are they playing in churches,   cathedrals? I don't know. I don't know the guys personally. I don't know their hearts.   I don't I don't know where they are with their walks with, Jesus Christ.   Yeshua, Jehovah, Jehovah.   One of them guys. Moroni, the angels, Gabriel,   Mikhail,   Raphael,   what's the other the third one? Galadriel.   Galadriel.   Yeah. The,   Lord of the Rings,   Elven Angel.   The, you know, King Keys of John d and, Edward Kelly and   the Goishek,   Thelamic,   rights of Memphis   and Mizraim of the He'd be with Gladriel. He had one of the rings of the power. So, I mean, here here's you know, personally, since we're,   since I've had a little bit of, green tea, coffee, caffeine,   adult beverage bubbly and me, I'm gonna spill some secrets of of the cult and say, you know, there's no value in doing a cult streams and shows anymore because everyone   confuses the topic, don't hear what I'm saying, and then tell me I'm wrong or correct because I interpret Lucifer a certain way from a certain religion. And then I say, well, there's this other perspective. They view it this way, and this other group views,   know, Lucifer and the angel Gabriel from this per is I can share from multiple perspectives what the correct answer is   and then tell you and then you're like, yeah. But what's the answer is? Well, I told you in a roundabout weave way, all the answers that are possibilities.  



[04:06:58] Unknown:

And if the answer doesn't include the actual   mythology and references in history,   so many people have made their life's work out of just   rewriting   myths and history and putting a different spin on it and all that. Well And Mhmm. By the time you're done, it's not even recognizable at this point because   people have been it's like the fucking human centipede of myth. You know? Like, they eat they eat,   the first one gets the myth, and then the second one's getting the regurgitate or the shit out of the first one and so on and so forth. And it's just   it's just horrible.  

And, like, just like we did with Lilith,   we can go through that and   look at the actual history and and where these things are derivative from, and people just get angry about it.  

[04:07:53] Allen Marcus:

Right. And and to be just as   blunt and direct of as an answer as you'll ever get from me,   when someone drives by and they say, oh, you think you're an occult expert, and they ask a very specific esoteric question, and then we kinda dance around it, make some jokes, and maybe approach an answer.   If we don't give the answer that they want it it's like they're quizzing us.   It's like they're asking us a question that they have   a set answer to in their own mind. And if we don't say word for word, verse for word verse, what their dogma and belief is that they read from the Gardenarian Wiccan   manual of Thelemites of allosuchrolyism,   you   know, Mon, Milo, Duquette,   Buddha and Confucius, whatever   ancient right of,   Bucephus,   Archaic,   Sethichus, Bozekus,   you know, name all the names you wanna say. If if we don't align with that line of thinking,   the person's like, I'm out of here.  

Blocked. Yeah. Recorded. Don't like your content.   And in fact, they will actively report your content and say you're a hate crime.   You know, you hate women.   You hate bodily autonomy. You're so obsessed with   women's rights to not choose and oppression, and you you hate gay people. It's not hearing what we're saying in the new dawns,   and then they leave. They weren't   they weren't gonna stick on listening,   you know, you know, eat a meal, break bread with us, stick around   Yep. Hang out anyway. So,   you know, answering their questions, like, that they're setting a trap, and we don't take the bait. And   they don't like it, and they get angry and flustered because we don't play with them. And then they're, like, make a big showing of us being wrong, and then they blow up the chat for a while. And we don't like their forwarded messages in our in our public groups and chats. So we delete their stuff, and we curate and edit. And they're like, oh, you're so mean. You're so mean. Why do you have to why do you have to   why do you have to have such a a nuanced opinion with and you answer the question differently every time, and it's   because we're not new to streaming and broadcasting   and content production   and book writing and editing and movie making and documentary filmmaking and YouTube videos and podcast.  

We're not new to this. We've had multiple   accounts   over a twenty plus year period publicly putting stuff online.   And just because the algorithm doesn't promote it,   doesn't mean we don't have a history of talking about this stuff.  

[04:10:40] Unknown:

Not only not promote it, it will literally unpromote it and take away views just to try and stop it. So I just the other day posted a I changed and gave my ducks a bigger pool.   I've got seven little ducklings that I'm adding to the flock   and,  

[04:10:58] Allen Marcus:

changed their water out, and that thing just immediately took off because who doesn't love it? Dirty? Why are you feeding your ducks dirty water? Or you hate ducks. You're a duck hater. You're you're there there's   there's duck feces in the water that you're feeding these ducks. You're an animal abuser reported   for hate crimes against animal, but you hate you duck hater. I bet you eat those ducks for dinner.   Don't know anything about you. You're a chicken wizard   PDF file. You  

[04:11:27] Unknown:

Hey. You icky. The old school stuff.  

[04:11:31] Flow Dusty:

It's like we have a long  

[04:11:33] Allen Marcus:

history of private correspondences   with people who   play nice in public,   and then behind the scenes are just   the absolute   worst   two faced people pleasing   to self   serving   slave to their own personal   brand   who   I don't know about that position. I can't take that position publicly. I need to take a weird position publicly and stomp out of the room and make a big scene about me being included in your stream, and you're not a real man anywhere   and blah blah blah blah. Come   on, man.   We   okay. I'm speaking from my personal life here. This is my lived experience.   I've been around the block.  

I've been around the circle. I've been around the pulpit, the pews, the the synagogues, the temp I've you know, I've traveled. I've done things. I've seen things. I don't share all of the experiences because there aren't enough hours in the day, and it's probably not valuable or interesting. I have to   who cares?   Who really cares?   And then there's new people that show up and say, I recently accepted Christ as my savior. I was a womanizer.   I I stole another woman who was seeing another man and sold the material, and I'm you know what? I'd you know, whatever blah blah blah blah blah. And now I'm the number one broadcaster on the Pierce Morgan Morgan MSN, CBC,   DVD, blah blah blah blah blah.  

I got a USB stick full of my knowledge.   I have hard drives filled with PowerPoint presentations you wouldn't believe   type of self righteousness yelling at the screen calling   them fondle slab holding,   vomit, and blah blah blah, and you don't understand the hermetic in the way I understand it. And if you don't listen to my podcast from the first   episode,   get on my level. You can't learn anything. If you haven't spent thousands of hours listening to my personal material, levels   of just   tiresome,   self righteous   bullshit,   Who cares? If you can't say what you mean in a five minute   bullet   point slide deck PowerPoint presentation and get your point directly   and not have to sell it behind a membership   of a coven, of a slow drip of, esoteric mystery school with a private members agreement Discord   community. I don't care.  

We've been publicly   stating all cult secrets   that people just   ignore, don't care, and then they hear one thing they don't like and disagree with, and then they leave the community forever?  

[04:14:27] Unknown:

Yeah. They they they got their staff, George Maxwell.  

[04:14:31] Allen Marcus:

And we're still here talking about the things we've been talking about   year after year after year,   not hiding it beyond a premium second hour or hour   archive or whatever. Who cares?   If we needed to make a living sharing our cult secrets   so we could pay a mortgage on our property,   we wouldn't be very good magicians and wizards and computer nerds, would we?  

[04:14:57] Unknown:

Yeah. You're you're you're a magician, but you need donations.  

[04:15:01] Allen Marcus:

You need someone to buy you a pizza after a livestream because there's no Campbell Soup cans in your pantry?   Come on, mister   sex magic ritual guy.   And it's like, this is, you know, this is why you're on History Channel. We this is why we weren't taking   Red Wheel Weiser Llewellyn   author opportunities to interview these authors.   Write the worst occult problem that is so nonsensical.   It means nothing, and the system is garbage. It's like, take your rose petals under a full moon, stick them between your legs, and and put them up your, you know, crevices and your holy sweat and blood, sweat, and tears and put it in a jar and and bury it in your ex husband's backyard.   And you'll get all the alimony money, and he'll die poor, and you'll get all the it's like, I don't wanna read tarot cards to tell you   that   you broke up with a man or a wife because   you were a   unbearable person to live with, and so was the person you were living with, and both of you were terrible, and you did terrible things to each other.  

I don't need to, you know, give you a three card spread to to tell you to, you know, wipe your own   butt before you complain about someone not, you know, washing their hands and picking their own nose. This type of Clean your room. Garbage level   Jordan   Peterson stuff. Come on. We're so   we're so tired of this stuff.   And then people wanna spend live our live streams to to say, you know, why did I take a gun and shoot it over my shoulder at the ground to get attention? Because no one cares about what I do because you aren't saying anything of value when you're asked about   the benefits of microwaving your food and if it improves the nutrition   nutritional quality   of the frozen pizza you put in the microwave.  

No, man. It cooks it from do you even know do you know how it works? How does a microwave work, man? It exclates the abs and warms them up, and it changes the molecular property. And, you know, it doesn't   okay, let's have an argument about the nutritional value   of   broccoli and steaming it and putting it in a solar oven or putting it on our fire or eating it raw or putting it in a microwave.  

[04:17:27] Unknown:

That was such a weird thing the way you he kept going on. He'd, like, bounce back and forth between   wanting to   be, like,   more,   you know, self reliant and old school. Tommy Illuminati  

[04:17:41] Allen Marcus:

who's hosting his own stream, and he's concerned about his viewership and his watch hours. And it's like, well, that's fine. That's very interesting.   And now we're you invite us in.   We join.   We sit down. You're at your desk. We're on the guest couch having a conversation, and we ask you, what are your areas of expertise that you wanna have a man to man,   mano y mano one on one debate with, and we show up, and you just wanna tell us that,   you know, firing a gun into the air is okay, and it's your your right to do it,   and your military train and well, okay. But we were just saying maybe don't   fire  

[04:18:21] Unknown:

firearm over your shoulder without looking at it. I just love that part. I'm military trained.   Well,   you obviously weren't military because, otherwise, you wouldn't have to say it like that. That's just weird. Well, Alderson, here's where I'm gonna say  

[04:18:37] Allen Marcus:

my opinion of this individual who's military there's a lot of people who are military trained, and they go to basic training, and they're broken down, and they don't have a personality or an identity or moral compass anymore, they do what they're told to do. They're given a rifle and they're sent to war and they said that person wearing that colored hat is the enemy. Shoot him and kill him.   I don't care if you're military trained and you're private security and you're conceal and carry. It's like, yeah,   this isn't the Wild West. You're not a a hero and a   western where you're fighting bad guys and black hats, and you're on a white hat, and you're you're always correct.  



[04:19:20] Unknown:

And the thing about actually being in the military,   they're   crazy strict. Like, that's one of my comments about cops. I I I don't find cops impressive. Like, the the in the military,   you do not get to fire until they tell you you can. It doesn't matter if you're getting fired upon. It doesn't matter if what you see going on, what's happening,   until you're given clearance.   And   when you're in a war zone, all them guys wanna kill you. They definitely do. They definitely have guns. They definitely have other weapons.   Like, they   and you're supposed to calmly   act rationally   and and under stay under orders during that time. And   to tell me that you're military trained but act like that,   that doesn't make any sense to me.  

None.  

[04:20:17] Allen Marcus:

It's not supposed to make sense. Nonsense is not supposed to make sense. Nonsequitaurs   are not supposed to make sense. Absurdism   is absurd, and that's the point   of it.   We're trying to have   logical,   rational, grammatically   correct   conversations with each other where the meaning is exactly what we say.   We're not speaking in code or being clear,   indirect, and we ask other people to join us on a Tuesday night to have   clear,   direct   communication   opportunities,   and all we hear are crickets   and passive aggressive emails and comments are deleted.  

[04:21:05] Unknown:

And any stories that the invitations are deleted. And shit. The funny part is we put the comment up on the screen where when he did it. Why would you go back and delete it then? It's in it's embedded into the show, dummy.   The fuck is wrong with you, Yurt McGirt?   Quit snorting Barney's or fucking whatever the fuck you're doing. Taking Adderalls, like, back the fuck off at your Well, that's the thing. If this person is  

[04:21:32] Allen Marcus:

reliant on   substances   to   create music and sermons and chat GPT word salad nonsense recycle  

[04:21:41] Unknown:

three AI albums this year are really dark.  

[04:21:45] Allen Marcus:

Okay. That's fine. Okay. Now now it's gotten personal, and the blows are under the belt because   we asked to have   a mature,  

[04:21:57] Unknown:

academic,  

[04:22:00] Allen Marcus:

serious   conversation   about   Odin   and heathenism   and old world Europa   and Christianity   and gnosticism and all the big questions.   And then Jert Magert   shows up to say,  

[04:22:18] Flow Dusty:

I don't give   pearls to swine.  

[04:22:21] Allen Marcus:

Your   pig, Faye, and   your cohost   dresses like a wizard and a wizard.   I know. That's my personal website.   I put that photo up. And when I   was 15 years old and put on eyeliner and mascara and teased my hair and dressed like a cyberpunk,   goth, braver kid,   knowing that it was absolutely ridiculous?   I know it was ridiculous.   I know listening to these dumb rave bands is not high culture.   It's not a Stradivarius.   It's not a dream theater level   thing. It's   dumb,   disposable   music for dumb, disposable   teens. I understood that as a teenager, and we can give more credit to the people who have the self awareness to say, oh, I'm goth today.   I'm Wiccan tomorrow.  

I'm atheist after that, and then I'm going to church on Sunday with my   stepdad.   You can be all these things,   experience   all these perspectives,   and still not make up your mind and believe all of it and none of it at the same time.   Yeah. And learn something about other people,   empathy and compassion and figuring out   what hurts people,   what helps people, what people are struggling with, why they turn to drugs and alcohol and sex and things to escape their inner monologue and their demons and their child abuse and all this all the trauma that they carry. And, you know, dad didn't go to my soccer game, and mom didn't   give me   chicken nuggets when I asked for it. And I couldn't play video games all night. I was slapped on the wrist and spanked on the bottom. And I'm okay. But now you're an adult,   and now you're on your own.  

Can you go to the bathroom in the middle of the night without turning on all the lights and dropping your underpants to the ground and getting completely naked before you drop a deuce and then take a shower? And it's like, to what level are you living with obsessive   compulsive demons in your own life where your behavior is out of control and you don't know why you do the things you do?   I mean, how in control of you are you of you are you of your own life and your own decisions and your own public perceptions and your own social media accounts   that you say embarrassing things, and then you delete the comments later.  

And then you don't wanna talk about it.   It's okay. We can post on   cringe subreddits all we want and Low Cal farms and kiwi farms and make fun of   people all we want, but we don't wanna do that.   We don't want to do that.  

[04:25:11] Unknown:

No.   Not in particular.   Insulting my Texas hippie coalition music as well.   Oh, shit. We can listen to music.  

[04:25:27] Allen Marcus:

We can dance to dumb music.   We can enjoy Christian music unironically   and sincerely   like   Skillet   and Petra   and Striper   and then not care about it. We   we're not saying it's great music. We're not listening to it ironically or like a hipster. It's   art is   low. It's middle brow. It's dumb.   It is what it is.   Who cares?  

[04:25:55] Unknown:

I mean, there's something to be said myself.   If something doesn't try to take itself seriously, like army of darkness, It's one of my favorite movies of all time. There is nothing trying to take itself seriously in that movie whatsoever.   I like to put it, it has the proper amount of cheese, and I'm a cheese fan.   And so if it's got enough cheese in it, I will enjoy it.   Like, don't drink your own Kool Aid that fucking much.  

[04:26:26] Allen Marcus:

I have some pet petrol listeners in chat.   You know, I would do an entire podcast where I would just talk about all the Christian music,   cover it lyric by lyric,   verse by chorus by bridge, and just have a joy and a fun time doing it. And if no one listened, I would still do it.   And now I realized I am an adult, and there's twenty four hours in a day. And, you know, the flowers have to be watered, and the animals have to be cared for, and chores have to be done. And then I run out of time, and   I can't do all the things I wanted to do   while I was a teenager without responsibility and realizing, oh, as a teenager,   I had responsibility.  

To think that as a child, I didn't have responsibility   because other people   covered   for me,   I quickly realized   I am responsible for myself.   I have to feed myself, clothe myself, dress myself, do all of these things   for myself   before I can go and watch anime and play video games.   And if I'm escaping my personal responsibilities,   then I'm not feeling great about myself for doing that. You know? To hold deeper. It's not getting me out to where I wanna go.  

[04:27:45] Unknown:

We should get an original copy of Peter Pan and go through that   and and then talk and then talk about the Peter Pan syndrome that most people seem to be stuck in.  

[04:27:56] Allen Marcus:

Yep. There's Peter Pan syndrome,   HIKI KOMORI, closed door syndrome,   failure to launch, social anxiety,   the mother love situation where you're smothered by a mother.   You know? You go to school and you're bullied and the teachers, you know, give you homework and you can't figure it out, and you're just told you're dumb all the time and you're dyslexicizing.   You know? It's like, I get it.   Life is hard.   Modern life is difficult.   People don't take the time to explain   to you how to tie your shoe, and then people make fun of you for peeing your pants because you can't hold your bladder.   Get over it. You know, it's like you gotta overcome these weaknesses.  

Everyone's dealt a different hand. We talked earlier about a a young girl   born with Down syndrome   who, against her will, was purchased into a weird situation by   Italian man who's   now acting like he's a hero in the situation.   He's the creepy villain.  

[04:28:59] Unknown:

And then she is the poor victim.   You know? Well,   four and a half hours, that seems to be about good, don't you think? You wanna go another four and a half hours?  

[04:29:11] Allen Marcus:

No. Maybe we do that next Tuesday.  

[04:29:14] Unknown:

Maybe next Tuesday.   We played the running dog video on the way in, so the killer kitty video on the way out.   Yeah.  

[04:29:31] Allen Marcus:

Peter Pan,   Lucifer,   taking notes. What's up?   Pussifer.  

[04:29:42] Unknown:

Love you guys.   Have a good night.   Oh,   I get my mouse to work. The cat likes to use my mouse pad as a sleeping spot. Oh, we'll leave the studio and go back to the other studio?   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I can I can uncheck this because I just take I just figured out since we're only on YouTube? If I uncheck it, that'll shut us off, and then his stream there, it'll just be running, like, empty. Say good night to everyone.  

[04:30:09] Allen Marcus:

D two   t, nights of the storm,   and Christian  

[04:30:16] Unknown:

Rose Up,   Resistance,   Shareen,   Allen Allen is a star.  

[04:30:24] Allen Marcus:

Spirit of the Age, talking Metallica, different metal albums, Antiques Productions.   Lots of, great chatter on   Rumble.   I'll read all of this later. I you know, thank you a [email protected].   It's a real email address.   I would send you anonymous tips in.   You have any occult secrets that we haven't discovered yet.  

[04:30:48] Unknown:

Absolutely.   Night, guys.  

[04:30:52] Allen Marcus:

Good night.  

[04:30:59] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. That's right. The posters are created. You   should delete it.   No. I'll just   remove remove this destination from the stream. I don't wanna remove the post.