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✨ Hey, besties! 🌈 Get ready for the most adorable episode ever! 🎉 We’re diving into a super fun celebration of Mario Day (even if it’s a lil’ late, oopsie! 😅). We’re chatting about the evolution of Mario games, from those classic 2D side-scrollers to the epic 3D adventures and even the RPGs! 🎮💖 Which Mario game is the ultimate GOAT? Let’s spill the tea! ☕️✨
But wait, there’s more! We’re also talking about how video games help us navigate those magical virtual worlds and reminiscing about the good ol’ days of simpler gaming controls! 🎮💫 Plus, we’re keeping it real about the podcasting world—like, can you believe how many podcasts are out there? 😂💻
Then, we get a bit deeper, cuties! 💖 We’re exploring some serious stuff like the challenges of modern living, the role of corporations (yikes! 😱), and why being self-sufficient is totally in! 🌱✨ We’ll chat about farming, hard work, and the super different vibes between city and country life! 🌆🌾
And don’t miss our candid convos about debating and engaging with different viewpoints—because keeping it light and funny is the way to go! 😄💖 So, come join us for a thought-provoking and totally entertaining episode that covers everything from video games to the real world! Let’s go, fam! 🎉💖✨

(00:01:12) Celebrating Mario Day

(00:03:11) The Evolution of Mario Games

(00:05:16) Auctioning Off Marcus

(00:07:50) Sam Cedar Debate Drama

(00:10:40) Understanding Tax Brackets

(00:13:13) Social Media and Society

(00:16:08) The Value of Hard Work

(00:20:00) Life Goals and Land Ownership

(00:23:17) Challenges of Off-Grid Living

(00:30:37) Podcasting and Media Saturation

(00:40:46) WNBA and Women's Sports

(00:50:58) College Athletes and Expectations

(01:02:03) Recruitment and Military Comparisons

(01:20:28) Nutrient Density and Farming

(01:33:16) Economic Realities and Self-Sufficiency

(01:50:02) Corporations and Capitalism

(02:03:10) Debate Challenges and Intellectual Discourse

(02:22:00) Capital Punishment Discussion

(02:28:28) Everclear and High School Memories

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🎙️ EP 28: WNBA Roasts & Off-Grid Life Hacks

🔥 The wildest podcast you’ve never heard (but NEED to)
🎮 Mario Madness & Gaming Nostalgia
Mario Day Late Party 🎉: Celebrating March 10 (MAR10) a day late with hot takes on the best Mario game ever.
Hot Debate 🔥: Is Super Mario Bros. the GOAT? Or is Mario Kart the real MVP? (Spoiler: Stoned Mario Kart sessions always win.)
Controller Evolution 🕹️: From "stick + one button" to remappable schemes—how Mario taught us to game.
🏀 WNBA vs. Reality Check
Bill Burr Voice: "Nobody watches WNBA—not even feminists!" 🎤💥
Angel Reese Dunk Attempt 🏀: "Physics left the chat."
Truth Bomb 💣: Pro sports = profit. No tickets? No paycheck.

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🌿 Off-Grid Wisdom & Land Chad Energy
Ben’s Life Hack: Own land = own your life. 🌄 "Apartments are for NPCs."
Farm Flex 🚜: "Farmers are the OG influencers—Paul Harvey knew."
Survival Mode 🔪: "Drop me in Alaska; I’ll thrive. City folks? Panik."
💸 Corporations = Cringe?
Hot Take: Outlaw corporations. Gold standard > credit economy.
Credit Culture 💳: "Boomers bought wolf plates on layaway. Gen Z buys crypto. Both regret it."
🎧 Why You Gotta Listen RN
Unfiltered Chaos 🤯: From military recruiter lies to Everclear disaster stories.

Vibes 🎶: Robert Earl Keen’s Everclear anthem = mood.
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Mario Day Musings and the Evolution of Gaming
From Mario to Modern Challenges: A Journey Through Gaming and Society
The Great Mario Debate and the Realities of Modern Living
Gaming Nostalgia and the Quest for Self-Sufficiency
Mario, Podcasting, and the Pursuit of a Balanced Life



In this lively episode, we dive into a variety of topics, starting with a belated celebration of Mario Day. We discuss the evolution of Mario games, from the classic 2D side-scrollers to the 3D adventures and even the RPGs, and debate which might be the best Mario game of all time. The conversation then shifts to the role of video games in teaching players how to navigate virtual worlds, and the nostalgia of simpler gaming controls. We also touch on the complexities of modern podcasting and the oversaturation of the market, with a humorous take on the affordability of podcasting equipment.

The discussion takes a deeper turn as we explore societal issues, such as the economic challenges of modern living, the role of corporations, and the importance of self-sufficiency. We delve into the realities of farming, the value of hard work, and the disconnect between urban and rural lifestyles. The episode also features a candid conversation about the challenges of debating and engaging with different viewpoints, as well as the importance of maintaining a sense of humor and humility in discussions. Join us for a thought-provoking and entertaining episode that covers everything from video games to societal norms.

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Mario Day, WNBA, and Off-Grid Wisdom



Mario Day, WNBA, and Off-Grid Wisdom

🎙️ EP 28: Mario, WNBA Roasts & Off-Grid Life Hacks

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H2: 🎮 Mario Madness & Gaming Nostalgia
Mario Day Late Party 🎉: Celebrating March 10 (MAR10) a day late with hot takes on the best Mario game ever.
Hot Debate 🔥: Is Super Mario Bros. the GOAT? Or is Mario Kart the real MVP? (Spoiler: Stoned Mario Kart sessions always win.)
Controller Evolution 🕹️: From "stick + one button" to remappable schemes—how Mario taught us to game.
H2: 🏀 WNBA vs. Reality Check
Bill Burr Voice: "Nobody watches WNBA—not even feminists!" 🎤💥
Angel Reese Dunk Attempt 🏀: "Physics left the chat."
Truth Bomb 💣: Pro sports = profit. No tickets? No paycheck.


(•_•)
<( )> 🏀 airball
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H2: 🌿 Off-Grid Wisdom & Land Chad Energy
Ben’s Life Hack: Own land = own your life. 🌄 "Apartments are for NPCs."
Farm Flex 🚜: "Farmers are the OG influencers—Paul Harvey knew."
Survival Mode 🔪: "Drop me in Alaska; I’ll thrive. City folks? Panik."
H2: 💸 Corporations = Cringe?
Hot Take: Outlaw corporations. Gold standard > credit economy.
Credit Culture 💳: "Boomers bought wolf plates on layaway. Gen Z buys crypto. Both regret it."
H2: 🎧 Why You Gotta Listen RN
Unfiltered Chaos 🤯: From military recruiter lies to Everclear disaster stories.
Debate Tease 🥊: Jim Bob vs. Steve—coming soon to a Tuesday near you.
Vibes 🎶: Robert Earl Keen’s Everclear anthem = mood.
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🎙️ EP 28: WNBA Roasts & Off-Grid Life Hacks
🔥 The wildest podcast you’ve never heard (but NEED to)

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🎮 Mario Madness & Gaming Nostalgia

• Mario Day Late Party 🎉: Celebrating March 10 (MAR10) a day late with hot takes on the best Mario game ever.
• Hot Debate 🔥: Is Super Mario Bros. the GOAT? Or is Mario Kart the real MVP? (Spoiler: Stoned Mario Kart sessions always win.)
• Controller Evolution 🕹️: From "stick + one button" to remappable schemes—how Mario taught us to game.

🏀 WNBA vs. Reality Check

• Bill Burr Voice: "Nobody watches WNBA—not even feminists!" 🎤💥
• Angel Reese Dunk Attempt 🏀: "Physics left the chat."
• Truth Bomb 💣: Pro sports = profit. No tickets? No paycheck.

 (•_•)
 <( )> 🏀 airball 
   / \ 

🌿 Off-Grid Wisdom & Land Chad Energy

• Ben’s Life Hack: Own land = own your life. 🌄 "Apartments are for NPCs."
• Farm Flex 🚜: "Farmers are the OG influencers—Paul Harvey knew."
• Survival Mode 🔪: "Drop me in Alaska; I’ll thrive. City folks? Panik."

💸 Corporations = Cringe?

• Hot Take: Outlaw corporations. Gold standard > credit economy.
• Credit Culture 💳: "Boomers bought wolf plates on layaway. Gen Z buys crypto. Both regret it."

🎧 Why You Gotta Listen RN

• Unfiltered Chaos 🤯: From military recruiter lies to Everclear disaster stories.
• Debate Tease 🥊: Jim Bob vs. Steve—coming soon to a Tuesday near you.
• Vibes 🎶: Robert Earl Keen’s Everclear anthem = mood.

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Delivery.   Delivery.   Delivery.   Delivery.   Delivery.  

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Delivery. Delivery. Dogfish. I'm the dude.  

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7.  

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Hey. There we are.   Oh, we're done. And here we are.   There we are. There we are.   Love those Internet bars of death.  

[00:01:12] Unknown:

Hey. We're here. It's March 11, the day after March 10, which is   m a r I o, spelling out Mario.   So we're here to celebrate Mario's day, a day late, and discuss   which is maybe the the best Mario game   and how many official Mario games are there. Are we separating the Mario Brothers from the Super Mario Brothers?   Because there's   a a clear distinction there. And then the three d games are different from the the two d side scrolling games.   But then there was also a few RPGs that they had.   Gentlemen, your thoughts on Mario.  

[00:01:53] Unknown:

You know, I'm a traditionalist,   Marcus, so I'd I will always,   I I will I guess,   whatever the 16 bit Nintendo, I think that was Super Mario Brothers. Super Mario Brothers. I think it was. Yep. That's Super Mario World.   Maybe not World. I think it was still Brothers  

[00:02:13] Unknown:

at that point. I don't know. I could be wrong. Okay. I'm the oldest one here, so I'm gonna have to go with, Mario   trying to climb the stairs as Donkey Kong chucks barrels at him all day.  

[00:02:25] Unknown:

A working class hero.  

[00:02:27] Unknown:

Yeah.   Right?   Just like John Lennon.   But I do I   it I've had fun playing Mario Kart.   I have.  

[00:02:39] Unknown:

I have. Mario Kart's awesome.  

[00:02:41] Unknown:

I'd I've gotten, like, the as to the best of my ability   in   later years, junior high stoned   and played some Mario Kart and thoroughly enjoyed that. Yeah. That's improved your hand eye coordination?   No. Not at all. No. Not not a little bit. Okay.   No. But it's been fun.   Yeah. It's sometimes you just gotta dump your brain out.  

[00:03:08] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[00:03:10] Unknown:

Yeah.   So those Mario games were the flagship titles for Nintendo systems   and were designed to teach new players how to use a controller   and to navigate   in the world and figure that out. So a lot of the decisions were   intentional to teach players   how to behave in that world and to learn how to hold the controller   and hold, a button to run or the b button that you could later on, you could remap the control schemes, but there was a kind of a standard   default   control scheme that we understood.   But now in 2025,   we have a lot of different ideas.  



[00:03:51] Unknown:

Listen. Somewhere. Mhmm. There was just a stick and a button.   It's all there was,   bro. Right. There was no reconfiguring  

[00:04:00] Unknown:

nothing. There's a stick here and a button, and that's all you get. And you tell Mario to jump. If you need to push the button, you push the button. If you need to remove the stick, you move the stick. You tell jump man to jump, and jump man doesn't even ask how high. He just knows that a jump is one standard jump at the same height every time. It's very predictable. It's very safe.  

[00:04:22] Unknown:

James Maiden,   you stud. What's up, big daddy? What's up, Dwight?  

[00:04:27] Unknown:

What auction?  

[00:04:29] Unknown:

Alright, Landon.   We're auctioning off Marcus.  

[00:04:33] Unknown:

Alright.  

[00:04:35] Unknown:

The auction has started You are obviously need gonna need to get into the tunnels and get the gold. We're gonna need gold lots of gold points.  

[00:04:44] Unknown:

We're we're auctioning off Marcus's shirt tonight.  

[00:04:49] Unknown:

The Mario shirt? Yes. The Mario shirt. No. The wife beater under it or whatever it is. This is the long winded way to say that you wanna play strip poker.  

[00:05:01] Unknown:

I'm a bad gambler.   I am.   I don't play cards.  

[00:05:06] Unknown:

We have to be   more entertaining   than our opposition   who refuses to even play with us   for some strange reason.  

[00:05:16] Unknown:

Well, now now to be fair, Jim Bob wrote a nice letter. I don't have to be fair.   And,   to be fair,   I watched his stream,   and apparently,   he was gifted a trip to Hawaii, and I'm not sure that I would not rather go to Hawaii than talk to you fucks either.  

[00:05:34] Unknown:

So our opponents   are so clever   that they're gifting each other trips to Hawaii. That's right. They're like, hang out with dudes on a Tuesday night.   Is this how sophisticated the operation against this has become?  

[00:05:50] Unknown:

No. He said he's, he's just rescheduling.   And,   the name of the fella   let's see.   The name of the fella he's bringing, we need to research him a little bit. Sure.  

[00:06:09] Unknown:

Is that Chase Haggard? Chase Haggard.  

[00:06:12] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:06:15] Unknown:

So made by Jim Bob and Chase Haggard?   Yeah. Okay. And it's just a just a scheduling issue   for them, but we continue to stream at the same time every Tuesday night?  

[00:06:27] Unknown:

Yep.   Yep. Alright.   And he's got a couple of, crucible debates, it looks like.   Very clean-cut looking kid.  

[00:06:44] Unknown:

Mhmm.   I see that.  

[00:06:49] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:06:51] Unknown:

Did you get into the Sam Cedar debate,   Chris Luffel,   that didn't happen?  

[00:06:57] Unknown:

Sam Seeder is such a freaking clown.  

[00:07:02] Unknown:

I don't even know that it was Sam Seeder himself. This guy seems to have a a nice cohost and production staff.   So I'm sure that production staff   set up a video clip   of a video clip for Sam to respond to   with his argument already figured out, which was to say,   jumping to the end of the the timeline here, we have ourselves a Sam Cedar clip   in which he references a clip of Andrew Wilson talking about marginal tax rates and 90%   for the highest tax rate, and then not really understanding what that was. But then Sam Cedar   has his presentation already planned to show us the IRS   web page and tells us how tax brackets work   and that taxes   are taxed at different rates for the amount   earned per year,   and then it cuts off at a certain point. So there's things called brackets.  

And then Sam explained this to us as if we were   children and he had   somehow   victoriously   conquered Andrew Wilson   over   a clip where Andrew Wilson appeared on Piers Morgan,   or or was it Sam's no. Sam Cedar appeared on   Piers Morgan   saying something sarcastic to the effect of if we wanna fix our economy,   we change the tax rates and make them higher or something. And then Andrew Wilson said, well, that was absurd,   reacting to an absurd statement saying that it was absurd.   And then that got back to   a a third guy who clipped it.   And then somehow,   you know, Andrew Wilson said that Sam Cedar was not   responding to his   his, call to debate, and then it just got so convoluted and and dumb,  

[00:08:57] Unknown:

and then nothing ever seemed to happen. I like I always like how liberals   when they're when they're fucking getting their ass kicked in debate in a point, they'll be like,   okay.   You know water is wet. Right?  

[00:09:11] Unknown:

Right? Like, everybody knows water is what the fuck does that got to do with a goddamn I have the chart ready, and this proves that there is a freezing point of water, and we can talk about water temperatures   and how it affects the climate. And, you know, there's a perfect temperature to keep your fish in if there's salt water   or fresh water. And I have all these facts prepared, so I'm gonna just share the facts and let you know that I am,   you know, unfax checkable   because I I go to the official website of the source of the the EPA or or whoever   that we are in favor of not dismantling.  



[00:09:51] Unknown:

Why are you at The government wouldn't put it out if it wasn't true, Marcus. Duh.  

[00:09:56] Unknown:

I'm not arguing that tax brackets are a false reality.  

[00:10:01] Unknown:

Yeah. They they always the chart. The chart exists. Whenever they're fucked up, they back up, and they start out with something that everybody fucking knows and act like you don't know that. Like, they're somehow informing you of some shit. Like, you're like,   oh, well, you know that different tax rates if you make different incomes, you pay taxes at different rates, and it's called brackets.   No shit.   No shit.   I never knew that.   I've lived my whole fucking life in The United States and paid taxes   and never understood that when I made fucking $5 an hour, I paid less than when I made fucking 30.   I never caught that.  



[00:10:41] Unknown:

So if your tax bracket   if you are   goal oriented and your goal each year is to enter the next tax bracket,   the claim was that   you would not pay your entire wages   in the new tax bracket.   You would be taxed at the first tax bracket for up to whatever the amount is, and then anything after that would be taxed at a little bit higher of a rate.   So everyone would be taxed the same on all of their taxes, and it's also taxing   to have to talk about such simple   concepts that I don't think anyone was really misunderstanding.   But to create a   purposeful misunderstanding   to then debate on that and then dunk on your opponent   in a here's a clip of a clip of a clip of a clip so far removed from the thing.  

It's frustrating  

[00:11:39] Unknown:

to go on and engage directly. To a clip, then that's gonna be a a fifteen second   there wasn't very much information   put out, and it's easy enough to respond to anything that said in fifteen seconds.   You can come up with an eloquent response to anything.   Right. That that can defeat it.  

[00:11:58] Unknown:

A moment ago, Marcus, you referenced Sam Cedar's very nice cohost.  

[00:12:04] Unknown:

Who's that?  

[00:12:06] Unknown:

That's a a a lady named Emma Vigilant.  

[00:12:10] Unknown:

Okay. The this is Emma Vigilant. Hell of a name for a for a   a a reporter.   Oh, vigilant. I thought you said vigilant. I was like, wow. Vigilant. This is her laughing  

[00:12:24] Unknown:

at a 19 year old girl who received a traumatic brain injury on the volleyball court from a man cosplaying as a woman.  

[00:12:35] Unknown:

Wow. That's a nice lady. Okay. So here's the clip of the woman. Yeah. She's she's super nice. So Super nice. Hates women like liberals.  

[00:12:47] Unknown:

Yeah.   Real sweetheart,   that Emma.  

[00:12:51] Unknown:

Yeah.   So social media is the rope we are given to hang ourselves with if we Well, can't behave properly. And a very astute,  

[00:13:02] Unknown:

audience member and producer of the show,   who who goes by a tinfoil hat girl who Yeah. I follow her on  

[00:13:12] Unknown:

Twitter.  

[00:13:13] Unknown:

Yeah. She she had this observation, and I do think it's worth sharing.   So I'll I'll bring this back up here.   This is what happens when women stop having children and meaningful relationships. Their level of diabolical evil increases exponentially because they have no purpose and no ability to bond with humanity.   Well, that's 10 out of 10, tinfoil hat girl.  

[00:13:40] Unknown:

That was very well put. And a %, if you have no skin in the game, you turn into a hedonist. It's just how it works.   This is, like, when I stated that I wouldn't let people in apartments and things like that. Not I know it sounds   shitty, like, oh, only the rich landowners. Guess what? I'm not rich, and I own land. Neither is my neighbor. They aren't rich, and they own land. It's the difference is   if you live in an apartment, you don't if the place turns into a dump, you're like, oh, I'll move to the next place. You don't care.   If you if you're rooted and staked there, your kids are gonna grow up there. They're gonna go to school there. You don't want nasty shit going on. You don't want the place to turn into a dump. You're gonna you're gonna make choices that keep the environment around you in the neighborhood and whatnot in a better condition.  

You aren't just there to just take what you can and leave.  

[00:14:34] Unknown:

So Yeah. Or take what you see and hunker down until somebody makes you leave. Yeah. Yeah. That's both a goal and a solution to problems. Your life goal if you're listless and wondering what you're supposed to do.   Well, do you own land? Yes or no? If the answer is no,   then do everything you can to purchase land.  

[00:14:58] Unknown:

Exactly.   And it's really not that hard. There's actually a guy that goes around on YouTube,   and, he goes around to small towns   and finds small towns that have a real   need for help. There is help wanted all over the place,   and then also cheap homes. And it's like,   it's available,   so you can't live in Downtown San Francisco.   Like Yeah. Get over it. Yeah.  

[00:15:30] Unknown:

Well, it so the people think that they have to live in   a desirable   area   because that's where the desirable   employment is. But all too often,   the desirable employment   plus the desirable area makes it unlivable   for just about everybody   because there's such a huge disparity   between who's actually getting paid  

[00:15:59] Unknown:

and who's doing the necessary work. But by desirable, he means office jobs.  

[00:16:06] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:16:08] Unknown:

Yeah. There are really dollar jobs all over the fucking place. Them shit them them fucking office   jobs where you just sit around fucking wiping your ass with baby wipes and telling other people what to do. Yeah. Those are few and far between.   Nobody wants to go out and shovel the shit.  

[00:16:30] Unknown:

No. And they don't wanna pay the people who are shoveling shit what that actual job is worth,   which is far more necessary  

[00:16:40] Unknown:

in the long run than, you know How could they afford their baby wipes for their own bottoms then, Steve?  

[00:16:49] Unknown:

Oh, man. That dude wipes not shop at Target. Get your dude wipes. We agreed we weren't gonna shop at Target.  

[00:16:58] Unknown:

I need my bum to smell like cedar and and rosewood   because my ass shouldn't smell like ass, apparently.  

[00:17:07] Unknown:

Like, you can't just go wash it when you're done with work.  

[00:17:11] Unknown:

Yeah. That that's what a shower is for.   Right.   Yeah. That's what we can tell when we need one of those. We start smelling like ass. We're like, oh, I could smell my own ass. I should probably shower. So a man needs land  

[00:17:24] Unknown:

preferably with a pumper source of water   so he can wash his ass. Mhmm. I mean, it's definitely helpful. Yeah. Yeah. Fairly beneficial. So having that land and water   and the ability to wash one's ass   is already a good foundation to build a life upon?  

[00:17:43] Unknown:

That is a good foundation.   Yeah. And and the funny thing is is even in strict crazy ass California,   out here in the woods, they'll let you build whatever kind of house they want. It's even in the laws   because nobody fucking cares when you're out in the woods. Yes. In the city, when you're right next to each other, you have to have some crazy codes. You really do.   Like,   when you're especially when your house is a foot from the house next to it,   maybe you care about whether that person's house has fire codes and is built right and their chimney isn't crazy and things like that because   your house is definitely burning down as theirs does. That's how it works.  



[00:18:26] Unknown:

I, I I put   the first, like, twelve minutes   of,   my my ride up your road, Ben, when I came up the other month,   in the Telegram group today. It's not the full it's not the full trip. I just wanted to halfway up the road. Yeah. It really is. The the whole video is twenty two minutes. It it it was in two separate videos because I   went a little bit too hard left into a crater,   and the camera flew off to the side   and to restart.   But just to give him kind of an idea.   You know?  

[00:19:06] Unknown:

Yeah. Go to go to Steve's Telegram. It's I live it's wild out here. No. They don't care. It literally says in the paper. Can because I have farm animals, they're like, yeah. Build whatever buildings is that you expect out of a farm.   It's only in the cities that they go crazy like that, but everybody's like, oh, but I can't get dressed up every night and go to the bar with my friends.  

[00:19:29] Unknown:

Well and there's the Coastal Commission. Don't don't forget about them.  

[00:19:34] Unknown:

Yeah. And those are those are the men who grow a little bit older. You know, if we're talking about college age, you're 18, go to college, get a education.   And by the time you're, what, 25, 20 six, 20 seven, those same men are like, I don't have any friends anymore. My my strength my friend group   had no loyalty   to me. How do I make new friends?  

[00:20:01] Unknown:

Well, if you're still trying to hang out with the dudes when you're pushing 30, you've got problems anyways.   By the time you're that age, you should be having   done things that have settled you down,   purchased yourself some land. You should be looking for a good woman   that's gonna be a good mother to your kids. That should be number one.   If if she's gonna be a good mom to your kids   and actually a good mom, not just she's pretty, she's actually a good loving person that takes care of people and cares about other people, well, then   that's the one, man. Take her back to that land and fucking   lock that down.  



[00:20:43] Unknown:

Are there parents who   upon hearing their young   young sons   stating this goal   would convince them to not do that?   Is it is there a a parental element that says that that's the most ridiculous thing you could do is to try Yes. And they're called Italian.  

[00:21:01] Unknown:

Okay. Okay. I know.   I'm kidding to any wops in the audience. I'm I'm just messing with you.   We love our guineas. We do.  

[00:21:13] Unknown:

Yeah. Sweaty bastards.  

[00:21:15] Unknown:

Right.   Carla,  

[00:21:17] Unknown:

oil tank and fucking weirdos.   I do love oil too. Me too. Who doesn't?   Yeah.  

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I mean, what okay. So wasn't that, like, going back,   I don't know, not too many years, but wasn't that kind of the the counterculture   then? And it was radical to  

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leave consumer culture in cities and, you know, form communes and I think I think people mostly gave up on that. They realized that it's tough,   and they mostly gave up on that. There was, like, a right in 2020,   there was like a a in there was like a surge of it. And then I think,   they all went, yeah, but I don't wanna do that. I like my apartment. I like my cable. I like not having to go outside and chop wood. I like   having everything ready for me, getting up, having no responsibility   responsibilities.  

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Well and and to Marcus's, you know, original point, like, if fifty years prior to that, yeah, there was a huge surge in the late sixties, early seventies   to go,   you know, try to establish intentional communities and stuff like that. Humboldt County is riddled with them. Right. Mendocino County is riddled with them. And it Abandoned. Abandoned.   Yeah.   Largely,   you know, people got out there. They started   putting in work and going,   oh, this is a lot.   May   maybe maybe living off my parents or my trust fund   in a place   way closer to civilization   is more my speed.  

You know? And   for the longest time, especially, you   know, up where Ben is and even down in Sonoma, like, it was kind of a   a very Darwinist   experiment   in terms of, you know, only the people that were really willing to go bleed over it, it   lasted.  

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It was it's interesting because these people get this idea that you don't have to do anything once you do don't have a boss.   But when they say don't have a boss, it's really kind of a lie.   I you could say don't have a boss, but that only means that only applies if you don't wanna eat, you don't care about the temperature, and you don't wanna drink anything.   Mhmm. If you wanna do those three things, though,   there's certain things that the world is gonna make you do, and it just doesn't fucking matter what you say about it or how you feel about it. If my water tank up there goes dry   and it's a shitty day out and my wife turns on the water and goes,   honey,   Water's out.  

I gotta slog on whatever the fuck I need get can get on and go remedy that or else guess what? We got no water.   Mhmm. And and and these people that moved into these places, most of them are just horrifyingly lazy.   And they don't wanna do anything is what it really is. It's not that they don't wanna have a boss. They just don't wanna do anything.   And, unfortunately,   when you live off the land, that's just not how it works. The land don't give to you if you don't give to the land.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. No. The when when you work for yourself, you're   pretty much always in work mode.   And if you,   you know, catch a nap or something like that,   it's because it it's   totally necessary. Thank you, baby.  

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Yeah. Right before the show, I had I was only, like, four minutes early to the show. I'm usually there early. Brian came down to me work, and he's like, you know what day it is? It's Tuesday. Right? I'm like,   oh, what time is it?   Fortunately, he was paying attention. I wasn't apparently. Christy.   Christy is paying attention.   See, this is why you marry the ones like that. Be a perfect,  

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perfect customer for Nintendo's alarm alarm clock   that will wake you up to Nintendo themes.  

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I I was out asleep. I was out working.  

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Well, you could probably set the alarm for other things too. It's an alarm clock.  

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I would assume it requires electricity, and I was quite a ways away from the house.  

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Oh,   okay.   So you're not the customer for the Nintendo alarm clock?  

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I'm not the customer for most electronic things. It's, we're very minimalist   of the electronics.   Chris Steve is talking about maybe wanting to get one of the old school just boards with a ringer   because the washers just suck your now granted part of what's bringing her to that is is,   especially in the winter, Brian and I get so fucking wicked muddy that   she has to   put our our pants in a tub and scrub them, and then put them in a new tub and scrub them, and put them in a new tub and scrub them, and then maybe the washer will get out most of the rest.  

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Well, the the washer is doing the the motion thing. It's got the energy that is Agitator. It it's it's agitating.   Although,   you are still on the hook for cleaning and maintaining   all the parts of the agitator.   So it will work   for a period of time   before it gets all gunked up, and you've got to do more work   than it would take you to clean your clothes  

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to replace your every couple weeks. Again, fix Oh, dishwashers   dishwashers are the same thing. There's constant arguments. My dishwasher never breaks. She's she's great. I married a good one.  

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Do you let the goats Oh, yeah. Goats lick the the plates clean?  

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We let the dogs clip lick lick them clean. That's the prewash.  

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The goats would eat the plates, but the dogs I just got goats absolutely.  

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Yeah. Scott handed a plate of steak quesadillas   and black beans and   Nice.   Sour cream and habanero sauce and  

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Somebody's farting later.  

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Heck yeah.   Heck yeah. But I'll do it.  

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Hot air,   yapping.   I I love this topic of   the idea that I keep seeing repeated on social media where they say, like, podcasting equipment doesn't cost enough money.  

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What?  

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Yeah. They're saying that podcasting is so affordable now   that it allows people to share ideas that they don't wanna listen to.   And then they have a podcast.  

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Why you just don't listen to that podcast at some point?   Equation.  

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I mean, I'll agree that it's an oversaturated   field,   but it's only oversaturated   because it's populated by people who are largely   repeating the same shit   that they hear on more popular podcasts,   and it just becomes   a massive echo chamber of dumb fuckery.   And yeah, dude. Unless you're doing something that's actually   outside of   the mainstream alternative media or the,   you know, barnacles   that hang off of   the mainstream alternative media.   Mhmm.   Yeah. It probably is overpopulated,   unnecessary,   and,   you know, quote, unquote, too affordable.   But,   you know, my StreamYard bill is $90 a month.  

Like, that's a utility bill. It was a full on utility bill. That's stiff. That's stiff.  

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It used to be 25.  

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Mhmm.  

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And then they jacked it up to 49,   and now it's 89.   And,   they don't really offer too much more.   You know? The the cost to   be a premium member of streaming services went from a dollar to $5   to $10 to $15.   And now for everybody else,   you know, you pay less for Netflix   than you do for a handful of these, you know, premium streaming services on plat, various platforms.  

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Yeah. And and and well, the whole thing   is is also not only was it it was already overcrowded, and then   the mainstream stars moved into this space. Yep. And they all,   all the people that have been on mainstream media all these years just took over the space. And now you got,   you know,   Joe Rogan was mainstream even. Mhmm. And, you know, that but what he was talking about was kind of alternative. But now you got, like,   you know, every athlete. I don't care whether it's a UFC fighter,   Bryce Mitchell, or,   Sean Strickland or any of these guys all have their own podcast, and all the basketball players have their own podcast,   football players have their own podcast. And,   John Stewart came out of retirement, and he's got his own thing, and they every single one of them. And so, literally, all the guys that   they just got cut off of their their their TV show or they just aren't in the mainstream spotlight anymore, they all jumped onto this. And, of course, they do way better than any of us.  



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But they still use the same tactics   of clickbait titles   and contrived controversies   to,   yeah, get attention from people.   So they're still playing within these very lame,   time wasting tactics   that don't advance a conversation   anywhere. It doesn't solve   any issue,   and they're just taking up users' time.  

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Well, and it's it's interesting the thing you brought up earlier about Andrew Wilson. Mhmm. So you look,   even compared to five years ago, his show is not that big.   Like, if you look at podcast five years ago for a podcast that had a 50,000,   that's that's a that's a smaller   podcast.   Yeah.   You know, for the big name people, not, you know, compared to, you know, all the people that have the hundred viewers, you know, that for for a bigger podcast, that was actually on the smaller end of the spectrum.   And so when you see that these guys, like Sam Snyder,   that when they start   trying to purposefully interact with these people, because that's all that happened right there, is Andrew's been on, Pierce Morgan a couple times.  

He's,   guaranteed he is getting more attention than Sam Snyder.   More actual organic natural attention. I'm not talking about in the lobby of some fucking airport in the background put on there because they got a fucking contract to keep it on the TVs.   For actual   in person interaction,   he's got substantially more in on a podcast that's not that big.   So that's that just tells you where things really stand   comparatively.   Like, to have a when when that's the when that's somebody so big that the mainstream people are trying to interact with them because   they need new blood   in order to because they're falling out so badly,   then,   that tells you the the the state of things. It's very interesting.  



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Yeah. I see Sam Cedars.   Sam Cedars, s a m s e d e r.   He's   been around for a while Yeah. In in the industry.   Parents were lawyers, studying law school. And then in 02/2004,   he became a cohost of Air America Radio's The Majority Report with Janine Garafalo until 02/2006.   So that's, like, you know, over twenty years ago.   And it would make sense that he would continue her career doing the thing that he's been doing all along.  

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I think It was so weird that that chick became a star.   Like, just the persona that she represented was so weird.  

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Right. And that's that's sort of the conversation I like that now a little bit in terms of media personalities   and fulfilling   talking head spots.   So do you remember Michio Kaku?  

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Yeah. Of course, I do. He said that,   of all his friends, none of them practice the so called scientific method.  

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Right.   Yeah. And he would come on to different shows and talk about black holes or new scientific   discoveries or or whatever it is. And   he had a very   he he you'd see him. You'd recognize him. There's another guy, Michael Shermer.   Mhmm. For a time, he was the skeptic.   He was editor of Skeptic Magazine.   And anytime he needed to have a skeptical opinion,   he would just take the skeptical position on everything, and he'd be the talking head.   Another guy in tech called, Richard Stallman,   GNU plus Linux.   Richard Stallman for some movement guy.   He wasn't maybe the most,   presentable   figure,   but he was the most seen figure   early on. So here's a guy who   would eat his own toenails and,  

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you know, he he wasn't into the hygiene thing. He didn't do hair and makeup in the green room before as a parent. Was you saying that just like an out of hand weird shitting thing, or did he actually eat his own toenails? He actually claimed to eat his own toenails.   That is horrifyingly   disgusting.  

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He was   the most,   to a t stereotype   person of the you know, doesn't wear shoes,   hippie sort of,   you know, doesn't wash his hair, dreadlock.   Everything should be free, man, free man. You know, it's like   he was the guy who was selling the idea that software should be Libre, you know, without cost. It should be open source. The community should work on it. It should benefit all people. And   he maintained   very   strict,   almost   orthodox   software ideas to say this is this is it. We have to stand our ground. We have to fight for freedom.   We have to keep open source, open source. We can't allow   any closed source software   on our systems. There's no negotiating   with   Fortune five hundred companies. We can't work with Adobe to get Flash on our software. We can PDF files, Adobe Acrobat, all this type of thing. We'd have to have open source code that anyone can audit, and that has to be way to be the way forward,   which is to say,   he was the biggest   of   obstacle   to having   some open source,   some closed source, and a little bit in in the middle. So there was no give and take, and now we have   Windows 11.  

We have   Apple OS 10 on phones. We have Android. We have   a monopoly on   our software   because there was no no negotiations   early on. So now we have the worst   commercial software   and we have Yeah.  

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Say it? No. The worst open source software too. Yeah. And and he, because of   his performance,   it marginalized   voices like John Perry Barlow from Electronic   Frontier   Foundation. Right. We have marginalized voices from people who were actually having practical approaches to how to deal with open source, how to maybe   merge it or at least network out to where you had, you know,   auditors that truly believed in what you were trying to accomplish   that weren't   dyed in the wool,   unwashed zealots.   Mhmm. You know?   And it would yeah. The the whole thing was a shit show. It was.  

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And now we find ourselves in,   an unmanaged   unmanageable   situation   where   people are like,   I can't find a job because I have to go through   AI algorithms   to even show up, and then the AI is deciding interview. There's no human   connection,   and that's kind of by design, I think, to prevent anyone from taking responsibility   for hiring or firing or managing a company.  

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Admittedly, that shit sucks.   I do understand why you would wanna give that up. Like, of all the tasks having been a business owner myself Mhmm. Hiring, firing, and scheduling are the top three top three most shitty   things about that about being the boss.  

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Yep. Sure.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. Day to day operations   and navigating having employees and stuff like that,   challenging,   but nothing is worse than   the rudimentary   administrative   tasks.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. Just straight scheduling, trying to dance around, especially if you have, you know, if you have an easy nine to five schedule, but, like, I own a bar and trying to dance around all the different servers and,   fucking bartenders and everything else.   And, you know, everybody always wants the same fucking days off, and then they wanna fight about it. And,   it's just a shitty deal. And then on top of that,   there's a there's a balance.   And I've noticed that,   there's a couple of, real idiocies that I've noticed   over the over the last couple years. And one of them, like, it's really standing out with this these girls that play basketball, the WNBA girls that   are asking for   as much money as the guys do   and not understanding that they're operating at a loss,   That their their ticket sales literally equal   a a a star basketball player's contract.  

Their year their yearly ticket sales. So the fact is is   the thing that these people   that they've lost sight of is is when you go to work for a company,   the company needs to make   extra money because you showed up.   You being there should be a net positive for the company. So if I was making $10   because I hired you on, now I should be profiting,   let's say, $20 a day or whatever.   And these people,   in no way do they care about whether the company makes any money whatsoever. And I'm not some dude that's like, oh, put your life to the company. If a company treats you right and you do right, it's a good deal. You know? Either way that that breaks, it's a break. But,   if you were trying to just take everything you can and you're doing nothing for the company, I don't even know how you expect them to keep paying you. They go out of business.  

They don't make money. It's it's idiocy at its finest.   And it's not just the WNBA. This is all over the place. You see all these kids. They think that every dollar, every employee employer ever makes,   it should be their dollar.   And they apparently don't understand   that the employer also must make money. And on top of that,   if you're gonna keep them if you're gonna maintain, like, as a small business, like a contra a construction company,   you have to make enough money   that during the shit times, you can still pay your employees because they still like to eat. They still like to pay their rent. They still like those things. So and it's not their fault that you didn't make money this month. So you need to be able to stack up enough money to where you can continue to pay them consistently and keep them going   even if you don't. That's that's the responsibility   of being the owner. So it doesn't just come with privilege.  



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No. It's the risk you take by   sticking your neck out and putting it you know, hanging a shingle and doing it in the first place. Yep. Yeah.   But, Ben,   I can't believe that you're trying to disparage   the WNBA   when these are the kinds of performances   that we get from the most outspoken critic of being underpaid Angel Reese.  

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You almost made it above the rim with that.  

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Oh, she got it all the way up that time. Are they playing with a volleyball?   The physics just don't make sense here.  

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Just like you're gonna sit here and tell me that that's not worth $32,000,000  

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a year? Come on, man. Do they put helium? Misogynist. It is. Do they do they put helium in that volleyball that they're bouncing around? The physics just did not make any sense.   There's the hoop. There's the arm. There's the ball. And somehow the ball just refused   to go to the field. Basketball,  

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it it the the rules are different. Getting it to go in the in the the hole there is not as big of a deal.  

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Do they have a a smaller regulation size than the ball? Like, holy shit. Well, it's it's smaller than the fellas.  

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It's a smaller ball even? Yeah. It's a smaller ball. Jesus.   And a larger hoop. That spit on it. Smaller ball and a larger hoop.  

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You know, if if some sports   coaches   wanna come and debate us,  

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that would be a a fun evening for me. Just I don't I don't know enough about sports to even be able to lose that I understand. What what what what would the possible topic be that would make it so we were going to win? Because I can't between the three of us,   I think we   much sport knowledge as your average 17 year old. Women should be allowed to  

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play professional sports.  

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Well, sure. Play professional sports, but be honest about it   and understand   that you're subsidized.   And you're subsidized   because nobody actually wants to watch you do this.  

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Because it's bad. Because we people like to see winners and and and extreme,   feats of athleticism.   And that thing that Steve just showed,   that was something even I could have accomplished, and I am   horrifying at basketball, but I could also miss a lot.   I'm good at that part.  

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You know, I'd all right.   I very rarely   if ever   go to Bill Burr to explain anything.   However,   Bill Burr   has one of the best breakdowns   from a sports fan point of view   of the WNBA.   So we're gonna do that.  

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I saw a couple months back, professional soccer player. Right? She goes on to ESPN or one of these sports channels,   and she starts bitching,   going like, I don't understand. How come female athletes   don't make as much as male professional athletes?   Right? And all of these men had to sit there and act like they didn't know what the answer was.   They had to sit there like dumbfounded, like, oh,   I don't know.   Why is that?   That is a conundrum. I have I have no idea.   Literally, I'm sitting at home screaming at the TV because you don't sell any fucking tickets.   Nobody is going to women's soccer games.  

You're playing in a 20,000 seat arena. 1,500 people show up. That's not a good night.   The promoter   lost his fucking ass on that dick.   I'm not saying no professional female athlete, Serena Williams, the women in the UFC, you know? But nobody's watching your fucking sport.   And then you're gonna come and you're gonna get mad at fucking men. They keep doing that shit. Why are you yelling at us?   It's not our fucking job.   It's not my fucking job to give a fuck   about women's soccer. Okay? I have men's sport   to pay attention to. This is   it's your bullshit. Right?  

Dude, look at the WNBA.   Dude, nobody in the WNBA got COVID.   Nobody.   They have been playing in front of three to 400 people a night for a quarter   of a century.   Not to mention, it's a male subsidized league. We gave you a fucking league.   None of you showed up.   Where are all the feminists?   That place should be packed with feminists.   Faces painted, wearing jerseys, slashing their titties,   going fucking nuts like the guys do in the upper deck with their big beard titty.   Are you on the jumbotron?   Am I doing it?   The games   none of you   none of you went to the fucking games.  

None of you. You all. You   failed them.   Not me.   Not men. Women   failed the WNBA.   Ladies, ladies, name your top five all time WNBA players of all time. Come on.   That's it. Name five WNBA team. Name a WNBA   team in your fucking city. You can't do it.  

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To be fair, I would be hard pressed   to over   history.  

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Make five NBA players. It's like night in and night out in front of nobody. I get a fuck off. 50 right now.   And then meanwhile,  

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I would have to include Michael Jordan and Larry Burn.  

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They're making billions.   You know those Real Housewives shows? They're making money hand over fist because that's what women are watching.   The money listens.   You don't wanna watch this shit? You watch this   shit. They just shoot it over there. Drowning these whores in money.   Purses   and shoes and Botox.   It's just raining.   It's raining money.   Yeah. So   the money listens. You'd rather watch that shit. Real Housewives, bunch of women just tearing each other down. Or maybe that's why your husband left you. Maybe that's why your husband left. That's why you can't have kids, bitch.   That's why your ass is flat at your titties, bitch. Right?  

That's the message you sent. We would rather watch that than see a bunch of women come together as a as a team and try to achieve a common goal. We would rather watch them actually fucking destroy each other.   Yeah.   No. No. No. And then in the end,   you come back   and you fucking yell at guys. Like and it's like, alright. So I'm into this straight. I have to buy you a drink, stop the axe murderer from coming through the fucking window,   and I have to watch WNBA games for you.   Like, when are you gonna pick up your end of the couch?  

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Yep.  

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Reality television.  

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Billy Bird doesn't often hit it, but he's right.  

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Reality television did so well because their overhead was so low,   weren't paying script   writers, and they could produce   quickly   affordable television.   And people watched it,   And they   still  

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watch   it.  

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Yeah. I wasn't trying to rag on women's sports, but   in general, just that professional   women's sports. Well, I was just in general saying that these younger people, they don't understand that the company they're working for needs to make money.   Right? That they that it's not all theirs.   Like,   what was the point to hiring you for a job   if I don't get anything out the deal also?  

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Yeah. No. If  

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if I'm   paying you to work for me, then   you should put in work for me.   There should be a return on investment.  

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Yeah. These kids don't understand that at all these days.   And and the idea in   to   so then the idea that they don't, that they could go out and just live on their own, they really don't get that you still gotta do work.   Like, their their whole   their whole goal is just not do a fucking thing, not be productive or put into anything.   And I don't know why anybody listens to those people.  

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So now I'm thinking in terms   of college athletes,   men and women receiving scholarships to play sports and study academics.   What is the expected outcome   for these young people who   play athletics and study   and then graduate college?   What sort of output do you think that investment   is expected to be?   I'm I'm not sure exactly. You're gonna state your question again. I'm not a % sure what you're asking here. Yeah. I need that one more time too. Okay. So we have a a a a college system, university system, and there's college sports and college athletes, men and women. And men and women get scouted at high schools   to attend   colleges and universities to play sports.  

Mhmm. So we're not sending our best and brightest academics   to colleges.   We're sending athletes.   What are   when so at at the end of the college athlete's career,   male or female,   some of their college tuition and room and board and and housing and and food costs are covered by tuition costs.   Are those college athletes expected to   play in professional sports   or study law and medicine and  

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engineering? I mean, most most won't make it into professional sports. You know what? Yeah.  

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It's less than 1%.  

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Yeah.   Right. Like, basically and I mean, the best and brightest also have an opportunity for grants and scholarships and such.   You know, they they you're they're just getting a sports scholarship. So somebody that isn't one of the best and the brightest   gets an opportunity that they wouldn't normally get based off of their ability to entertain.  

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Yeah. But they're talent   70%   average across all their course load, and they can remain a student and remain an athlete.  

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And then they get to college, and they get exposed to IKs and college. High school. I don't know what the fuck college does. Fucking who are So the the standards vary standards vary school to school, and almost all  

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student athletes   have, like, a test taker or somebody like that. You know?   Somebody that fills in for them because   it especially in the division one schools, the best athletes   usually can't fucking read.   They're they're there in order to sell tickets   to games   and support   the alumni club and the booster club and all that kind of stuff and cover the cost of the new stadium and stuff like that. We were talking earlier, Marcus. It's a a business.  

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Yes.  

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You know, this was preshow,   but but we were talking about the business of the university system. Student athletes are integral   to that business.   So they're there as   very useful cogs   in that machine   from the point of view   of the the university   system. They don't really care   about those athletes. If you get your knee blown out,   tough luck. Now you lost your scholarship.   Now you gotta go fucking   go get rehab and sell cars, or whatever it is. You know?   They're they're   moving parts until they stop moving.   And then cause all they're ever for is to  

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bring up the prestige of the school.   Like, of course, you wanna you're you're willing to pay more money and go to the school that's got the top football team, that's the top 10 or whatever   Mhmm. Football team,   you know, or whatever sport.   That's what that whole thing does is it brings up the prestige   of said school.   And the fact is is is them it's not like   I I agree with what Steve's saying a %.   Where I have a disconnect with these kids is   where they're pretending like they their part of the deal wasn't also that. They were taking,   and getting an extraordinarily   expensive,   scholarship   in order to perform.  

And if they don't perform for whatever reason,   well, that was the entire reason, and they didn't give a shit about that school. They would've went to one of 20 schools, one of 30 schools. Whoever was gonna give them the best deal   for performing  

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is who they were gonna go perform for. It's the the same thing as being recruited by the military   at 17,   where you fill a 17 year old kid's head   with all kinds of stories and fantasies,   and you're doing whatever you can do   to get them to sign.   And you tell them whatever pretty little lie they need to hear in order to get them to sign. It's the exact same mentality.   So you can't necessarily   blame the kid   for being a dumb kid   and falling,   you know, falling for that particular line of bullshit. Yet. I'm not. But I'm just saying,  

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also don't cry about it. That's life. That's how you learn. I Yeah. Don't you know, I   I don't you don't ever hear me tell people, go out and join the army. You know? Blah blah blah. But you also don't hear me go, oh, the recruiter lied to me. You fucking ain't right the recruiter lied. Every goddamn chance he got, he fucking lied. And like Steve said, it didn't matter if I was like, woah. College recruiters,   military recruiters. Well, I get lots of pussy. And the recruiter have been like, cool. Well, they got it. They got it waiting in the fucking chow hall at the end of the chow. You're like, I would like a blonde   and some taters   and some flapjacks.  

Like   and and and they they'll tell you whatever the fuck they think you wanna hear to get you to sign their name on that shit. They promise you guilts,  

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grandmas,  

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flapjacks. Everything. They promise you everything.   Oh, why does women   there and you get done with your first month of boot camp. And and and now we gotta bear in mind, I I'm, you know, I   we're talking about the early nineties.   So at home, I was only making 4 and a quarter because I was the afternoon, like, shift supervisor   type thing at the feed and seed. So I made the whopping, like, 50¢ more than the other guys were making $3.75.   Mhmm.   And,   I got my first check from the army   and even making 4 and a quarter back home   after killing myself for a month, them running you ragged all day and all night.  

You open up that motherfucking check, and that thing is, like, $400.   You're like,   was this for   one week?   This is the the whole the whole this was a part week.   This was a part.   Where's the rest?   Like, everybody in the fucking unit is staring at that, and it's right then and there that that everybody hates the recruiter.   Like, you're you were able to put up with a lot of the other lies that you've already figured out. And then when you realized you aren't even getting paid to do this shit, you're making, like,   you're making   garbage money.  

Oh, man.  

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So okay. Linden's trying to make a distinction here.   Saying the ASVAB   matters in terms of military recruitment, someone scoring a 50,   on a pickup.   Pika isn't gonna have the yeah. Exactly. But somebody would be Actually, as you're saying that 50 is the the actual line.  

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So   when I join so when I joined,   it used to be,   they changed it to the smart military. Right? So when I joined, that transition was happening where it went from 25,   used to be the raw score for getting in, and they moved it up to 32 because it was the smart army.   And that was a Bill Clinton initiative type thing. And then the 50   right there is what gets you student loan repayment   and GI bills. So they're like, you are officer level.   You should be going to college,   blah blah blah.   90, I don't know what that gets you. My raw score when I was, 16  

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I'm a rocket engineer?  

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You know A rocket scientist. Did not my farm ass was like, well, when I'm done, what would what would I do   then? What kind of job would I have?  

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Right.   I'm just thinking in terms of our greater conversation   and the glamour jobs that don't exist. And the unglamorous jobs   that are hiring,   people aren't interested in doing the unglamorous jobs.   So they're complaining that they can't find people to do the unglamorous jobs, but everyone   will hold out for the glamorous job. I I don't think the glamorous jobs ever existed. I don't think they're coming back.   And, you know, clean toilets and sweep floors and empty   trash cans, that's that's real work.  

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So then when it comes to, like, recording of stores, it's it's the glamour jobs. Jobs is what we're talking about. The infrastructure jobs, the things that keep things going. When you hear all these women that say that the world doesn't need men, that's because they live in such a primped and premed   little   bubble   that they don't realize all the men that are doing these horrible dirty tasks   to keep that bubble   running.  

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Well, I I just wanna bring this back to to Linden's point about the difference between a 50 and a 90.   Yes. But the recruiter is still trying to get more fifties   than nineties.  

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He want what he wants is is is is 30 twos, Steve. Yeah. Yeah. And so the exact same mentality  

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applies for a college   athletic   recruiter.   They don't wanna pay out   the kind of scholarship money for   everybody that's going to go join the NFL.   They don't, you know, they don't want to promise, you know,   the heaven and earth   to literally everybody. They wanna get maybe   two to four   legitimate   blue chip athletes   on a squad   unless they're so corrupt   and so crooked and so,  

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you know, flush with laundered money that they can throw it around. Steve's from. That's the story he's telling you about where he's from, where the colleges are. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Yeah. I grew up I I grew up in Indiana.   You know? It that that's what Indiana University did. That's what Duke University did back in the day   in my era and shit like that. You know? There were a couple other schools that did the same thing   where they they were so flushed with, like, laundered crooked money that they could afford   to throw it at top tier athletes all across the board, but in one specific sport. If we're talking about football, they didn't give a shit, dude, but they still have that recruitment process, and they still went deep in the paint in order to try to bring athletes into the school because that's what generates income   for the school.  

Having a great medical program   or having a great technology program   that that isn't putting asses in seats and generating income for the school.   So it the the same pervasive mentality   exists.   The reason that I use that as an example   is because it exists 100%   almost identical   in the military.   The you know, they're not looking.   The military isn't looking to recruit   100%   officers.   They're looking to recruit grunts.   They're They're looking to Yeah. They're looking to recruit   shit shovelers, ditch diggers,   fucking, you know, the few of the proud, the dead on the beach.   The that's what, you know, that's what they need more than an entire fleet of officers.  



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Yeah. The like I said, the guys that they get the fifties,   them go those guys are eligible for officer. That's why they give those the those guys the college benefits.   The the student loaner payment, the GI bill. I have all those things. I just never used them.  

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I'd scored a 97   on the ASFAB   and spent the next year and a half telling military recruiters   that I don't like authority,   and I have no intention of   signing up to go die in a sandbox   or some Eastern European country.   And if I'm ever gonna shoot somebody,   it's gonna be because I have to, not just because.  

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I also didn't like authority, but I had a kid coming. And,   the the   first Bush era   did not go well, hence why he there there was Yeah. He had zero chance in the reelection, and we were a pretty broke ass country after the first Bush era. Yeah.   And so there was no good jobs. Like I said, I was making four and a quarter.   I that that was, better than,   like, some of the adults I knew.   Even after the army when I was, 18 and I was,   trained in,   turbine mechanics and diesel mechanics and whatnot, and I got a   job at Interstate Detroit Diesel. I was making,   $12.50   an hour,   and that was screaming money, dude. My dad was making 7. I was so fucking proud,   so proud. I was like, my dad was still only making 7. I was like,   yeah. You know? And so the the, you know, the,   economy was pretty shit when I joined the army. There really wasn't any stable jobs.  

It was a it was a employer's market by far. Yeah. You were lucky if you had a job, so they weren't paying you nothing, and they were running the hell out of people.   So I joined the army, and I had the whole, you know, Captain America thing going in and on anyways.   You know, I was,   I was barely I literally   I think the day after I turned 17 signed up.   Kid on the way.   I was kicked out of my parents' house. I didn't know nothing. I was some farm kid without even cable TV.   Like,   didn't understand anything.   Glad I didn't go work for NASA.  

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Oh, hey, Ben.   Connor's about to go be a farmhand   up in,   Gold Country.  

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Get it, boy.   Get it?   Yeah. Yeah. So you get sunshine. You get muscles. You're gonna come back. You're gonna come back. Wirey.  

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He's well, he's he's a gym rat, dude. He's swole right now. He's looking You gotta come back wiry.  

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Yeah. You ain't gonna be swole, but you be wiry.   Yeah. When when when you when you,   them farm boys, they don't look impressive till they reach down and grab a 50 pound bale of hay in one hand and then the other hand and then walk 10 yards and chuck it up over the fucking fence. Yeah. And then do the barn and then do that for another four hours. Yep. They ain't they don't got that big watery muscle. They're wiry.  

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Yeah. No. But he he   he's probably gained   45   pounds since the last time you saw him, and it's all muscle.  

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All of it.  

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He's just shy of two hundred right now   and fucking   six foot.  

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Yeah. Yeah. He was tall. He was always he was tall. Well, compared to me, I'm not   Yeah.   I'm only five nine, five nine, five nine and a half. I'm sure that He hates his job,  

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and he got offered the ability to go,   it's like six hours a day, something like that. So he can still do other shit afterwards   if he's not totally fucking beat down from the day.  

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That's the question. Doing the the physical labor, even if it's six hours a day, you're gonna need the next  

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eighteen hours to recover. And Oh, he's been getting one ragged since you were fucking four years old, man. Boy.   Yeah.  

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We would throw bales all day, go do our chores,   take a shower,   fucking get drunk all night,   get a piece of ass, and still be up at five doing chores again. Yep. What what is endurance?  

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What what is  

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endurance is,   what your   your natural   ability to perform under pressure plus motivation plus   health   plus,   being fucking full of piss and vinegar.  

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Dude, you ain't never farmers are a different breed. Steve, pull up pull up Paul Harvey, god made a farmer, and play that shit.  

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Alright.   Well, good old Paul Harvey.  

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Yeah.   Used to listen to him in the barn.  

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Hello, America.  

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So so on the farm, there's no problem of the the Goldilocks education where it's just right. So you're not underqualified.   You're not overqualified. The farm doesn't care about your qualifications.   Doesn't care about your GED or your degree or your PhD.  

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Nope. No. Just your fucking   tea.   Yep.   Keep it sweet. Maybe your d.  

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Vitamin d,   sun tolerance.  

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And on the eighth   day,   God looked down on his planned paradise   and said, I need a caretaker.   So God made a farmer.   God said, I need somebody willing to get up before dawn, milk cows, work all day in the fields, milk cows again, eat supper, then go to town and stay past midnight at a meeting of the school board. So god made a farmer.   God said, I need somebody willing to sit up all night with a newborn colt   and watch it die   then dry his eyes and say maybe next year.   I need somebody who can shave an ax handle from a persimmon sprout, shoe a horse with a hunk of car tire, who can make harness out of haywire feed sacks and shoe scraps,   who planting time and harvest season will finish his forty hour week by Tuesday noon and then painting from tractor back put in another seventy two hours. So God made a farmer.  

God said, I need somebody strong enough to clear trees and heave bales, yet gentle enough to yin lambs and wean pigs and tend the pink combed bullets who will stop his mower for an hour to splint the broken leg of a meadowlark.   So god made a farmer.   It had to be somebody who'd plow deep and straighten, not cut corners, Somebody to seed, weed, feed, breed, and break, and disk, and plow, and plant, and tie the fleece, and strain the milk.   Somebody who'd bail a family together with the soft strong bonds of sharing,   who would laugh   and then sigh,   and then reply   with smiling eyes   when his son says   that he wants to spend his life   doing what dad does.  

So god made a farmer.  

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Hell, yeah.  

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I don't think My, Rose would argue against that.  

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No. But they'll never actually go do   it, or very few of them will.   I've I've noticed that   even if they're   living rule,   they're not living   rough.  

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No. The, even the leaders of those,   look at the Ortho Bros right now. The the top three debaters is,   Jay Dyer.   That's as far from Manly as it gets.   He's a pampered little princess, man. He is a pampered pink wearing little princess bitch who thinks Miami Vice is cool.   Are you fucking serious?   Are you fucking serious?  

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George, dude.  

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Yeah.   Like, get out of here. Crown is sometimes.  

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Like  

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no. The the even the conservatives   are not   they're not hard asses. They're they're not they're not like us. Freaking   it's a different it's a different life.  

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Yeah. So how did the,   I guess  

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The more connected to the land you get sorry to cut you off there, Marcus. But the more connected to the land you get, the more anti government you become.   And the ortho bros are very pro government,   and they're very pro,   neocon government for the most part. And the ones that pretend to be anti government are still   screaming every day about some other member of congress or something like that that's fighting a good fight for us, and that that doesn't exist. That doesn't exist.  

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No. Look at look at look look at what's going on with Trump. It's folding.   It's folding. But then so many of them, all they care about is is get making the libs cry   that they aren't they aren't looking at watching Trump just burn the castle down.   Like, wow.  

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Well, if you want a great reset, you gotta burn the castle down.  

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Yeah.   And and and here's the wild shit that I'm watching.   We're at such a confused time.   The liberals   who run around saying shit like punch a Nazi, and Nazis like the biggest slur word. And if you're evil, they compare you to Hitler.   They're all backing Ukraine for everything they're worth, which has actual Nazis in it.   Then   you flip around.   You got the right wing, which is the ones pushing all the,   antisemitism   laws,   like paving the road. They're like, we just saved $10,000,000,000.   Give it to Israel.   Well, hey. Fuck it. Yeah. No. And then at the same time, their base,   when you look at the the the   antisemites   of the year, that's all the big right wing fucking names. Like,   what?  

You're you're going, this shit, World War three is gonna be the most confused   shit on the planet, like ever.   Like people are just gonna be going,   like, Hey, I, I don't even understand. So, so US federal government is  

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subsidizing   poor olive farmers in a Middle Eastern country   so that they can export   olive oil and hair products and beauty products so that we can host Eurovision every year. So we can have a song contest   that'll sponsor my olive oil count from, Corning.  

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Just saying, man. Like, when it comes to anti semi of the year, like, what's a fucking honky gotta do to get a little recognition?  

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You know, I try to keep it toned down, and I still come off screaming with it.  

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They didn't even give a shout out to Adam Green, man.  

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That's my dude. I know a lot of people don't like that guy, but that's my dude. I I've you I I fucks with Adam Green. I really do. Yeah. I know. I wanna I wanna come on and be on with him. I like him. I try to keep it toned down because I already have it, like, screaming.   You know? And the thing is   is I'm not actually an antisemite for starts. I'm older. Arabs.   Yeah. Exactly. I have no problem with the other Semitic people.   I have problems with a religion that says that I'm a lesser person.   That I'm absolutely against that religion. A %, and I'm not gonna be ashamed of it or act like that's a problem. That's fucking insane.   Like, of course, I'm against a religion that says I'm less than your people, that your people were born better than me. That that's crazy.  

Yes. And that's Jim Bobbin Jim Bobbin, I see eye eye on that. It's hilarious because I told him we're gonna be on YouTube, so bagel rules. And he's like, yes. We shall play by the bagel people rules.  

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I only eat English muffins, James.  

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Yeah. I told my wife bagels suck. I hate bagels. Fuck that. They kinda do, man. They're not great. I'd rather have a breakfast take me on an English bun than I really would. The butt of the bread, just like not even the good part of the butt. Like, if you took out the good part of the bread and sucked that out of the butt and it was nothing but butt, and and I stacked a bunch of those together and squished it down, that'd be a fucking bagel.  

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So you got your butt sucked sandwich or Yeah.   Or you could have a delicious English muffin.   Yeah.  

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Yeah. They're these two are like, what do you mean? And I'm like, well, you know, a bagel's like the person that likes eating the fucking bottoms of the fucking muffin all the time. Of course, I'll take the top. You can go ahead and have all the bottoms.  

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Weird. Mhmm.  

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Yeah.   Yeah.   Oh, be weird. That's fine. I you know?   But yeah. Eat your eat your bagels. Don't pretend like you're eating a superior food.   They they gotta boil it to make it palatable.  

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And then bake it. You've gotta do multiple cooking processes.   This is similar to, like, I was taught I was looking at this thing from Iceland, and I don't remember what it was called. But it was a way to eat this this deadly shark   that they had to bury it in the ground for a couple weeks until it turned to mush, but then the mush was kinda gross, then you had to bake it in a fire for, like, a month. And then after all of that, eventually, you could actually choke it down. Maybe do a shark.   Yeah. You know, like, just just don't fucking eat it. Just just, you know, like, that's just the  

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You couldn't go snag a perch?  

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No. You You you go get a rock rod?   That stirs strawman, that fish that like, it's it's fermented in the can. So when it opens, it just explodes, and most people puke as soon as they open the can. And that's a delicacy for them. You're like, and this is Marcus is definitely derived from these fucking people. There is zero doubt about that. If you've ever seen if you see, you don't hang around for enough after showtime,   you give Marcus enough time. He'll start sticking some nasty fish in his mouth. And and I'm I am a % sure.   Yeah. Look at that. Look at that. That's just really for after the show. I can I can eat like king Oscar by cracking open some royal fillets?  



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Holy mackerel.   Wow. Fish Fridays every day. Stinky fish  

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and and and and Ricolas. That's what drives Marcus.  

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Oh, fuck. That's funny.  

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Yeah.   Like, he he could eat those things, and they have their own funny names from, like like, Sternstorm and, you know, and and, like, nobody else will eat that. That's it's at a wholly inedible.   And they're like, oh, yeah. I love it.   They this is this is half of why the Iceland everybody was scared of Iceland. Well, of course, maybe that's why else why they're so huge. Like, what is it? Like, six of the tens world's strongest men all come from Iceland, and the whole country only has 300,000 people? Yeah. Right. Mhmm. Does that come from eating nasty fish? I don't know.  

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Could have something to do with it? Yes. It does. It's purely  

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from   it   it really like, there's,   an incredibly high protein content   and, like, herring and shit like that. It's, yeah, it's   through the roof and insane, and there's a massive amount of omega three.  

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If you're full because you have protein, then you don't go and snack on bagels   and crisps and cookies and other snack foods.  

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I was trying to explain this the other day, man. When you actually eat clean food Mhmm. You need less of it. Yep.   I don't It does more for you. It lasts longer   in terms of, like, giving you energy.   You don't have to crash anyway.   Yeah. You don't go into, like, the food coma thing. None of that shit happens. So if you eat cleaner food,   you're just way better off all around, and you wind up spending less money,   especially if you have to walk into a grocery store, if you're not producing what you can in your home or you don't have a handshake relationship with the people who produce   the food that you wanna eat locally,   if you just stay on the   outside,   aisles of the grocery store, and you don't go into any of the middle   aisles at all.  

And if you just go through   the vegetables   and meats and some of the breads and stuff like that, maybe the milk, if you can get raw milk, or you which you can or a two milk, you you can get that in most grocery stores now. You know?   Do that, but don't go into any of those middle aisles, and you're gonna be way better off.  

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Literally how literally 99%   of our shopping is the outside of the store.  

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Yeah.  

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You dip into the middle for a couple little things, and that's the end of that.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Maybe you you feel like being a fucking idiot for a day. You want some popcorn or something like that. Okay. Fine.   Sure.   Once a month. Whatever.   You know? Okay.   I get it. You know? Or that that's where the honey is or whatever. You know? Like, okay. I get that.   But, like,   there are ways to shop without   intentionally   harming yourself.   And most people shop with the intent to harm themselves.  

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Well, this is I don't think they have the intent of hardening themselves because that's the problem is is they don't. They have the intent of convenience.   And so the the harming themselves is a secondary side effect that is is overrode by convenience.   My mom is a perfect example. My mom, when we go shopping,   will pick up a box of food. And if it's got a little star in the corner that says serves   in ready in five minutes or ten minutes or whatever,   she'll look at it, and she will literally look at me and go, look. This is good. And she doesn't look at what's actually in the ingredients or any of that. None of that seems to matter. It it literally that little star in the corner because she didn't turn the box and look at the back. She just, you know and and she'll look at me and go, that's good.   You know, like, one of those,   pasta thing, pastaronis or something, rice aaroni, pastaronis.  

Mhmm. You know? And she'd be like, this is good. And then and then,  

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no. No. It's it's not. It's My girl sent me a video this morning. There's a   a, like, blogger,   YouTuber called the food babe,   and   she went and had a Chick fil A sandwich tested.   Oh. And it had, like, a 23   different chemicals in it.   Jesus.   Yeah.   Holy   shit. A couple of years ago.  

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See, and this is why,   like, Christy and I, if you got anybody that checks out my YouTube, it's always farm shit mostly.   Because I'm a researcher. I never really did put any effort into building a show. I tried it for a little bit, didn't care for it.   I I just go on on I get invited on shows.   This is,   this is but we're attempting   to grow all become completely self sufficient.   So we've got our own animals. You know, the cow we've got milk cows for milking and making cheese and butter, and,   we got, but we're trying to garden.   And when you garden, it's a big deal. Like, what Steve was talking about, nutrient density   is the is the word that he was looking for.  

And,   or the terms that he was looking for there.   So   the your body, it's really looking for a certain amount of nutrients, and it's gonna keep craving that until you fill that void.   And you can eat and most people eat food that has no nutrient density whatsoever.   And so you've gotta keep eating more and more until you meet that nutrient load. It has a plenty of carbs and sugars,   but it doesn't have any nutrient density.   Well, the problem is is it for commercial farming   and   and, you know,   a lot of people would say that this was done on purpose, but it's just how it is because you can't really commercially farm,   in the way that people would want and do it good and organic. People have to take back their   own food, and,   you have to if you want good food. So one of the things you need to learn is is   when they tear up the soil and do the heavy plowing,   they're killing the bio. And the the plants,   they,   don't have a stomach   like a human.  

And so the the their stomach is the soil. The soil is loaded with bacteria and fungi and whatnot   that breaks the food down into a mint into minerals that they can absorb.   And so when you tear that up, it kills your soil biome.   And   we've over the years made it, so we've now completely depleted our top   soil. Where when you don't tear up the soil and you build it up and you can watch people like Matt Powers,   and,   Elaine Ingham,   who are soil experts.   And if if you build up your soil biome   after about four or five years, all of a sudden your food starts having nutrients in it that weren't available before. And it starts having flavors that weren't available before because   the   maturity of that biome   has now made it. So that way, those things start coming out.  

And,   that oh, it's only gonna happen in your own if you grow your own because you can't get that out of commercial.   For for me to do what I do, that is extremely labor intensive.   And it   you can't use a machine to do it. The way when when you monoculture   where, like, you take and you grow a field of corn, and then you can run down it. The whole thing is is to make enough corn and to have a few people doing it,   you make it so that way you   make the corn, they'd make it GMO.   So that way,   they can spray it with the the Roundup,   and then the corn won't die, but everything else. And now you don't have to have a whole team of people. It takes it takes, like, a whole day, four or five people an entire day to feed to weed a 40 acre field. And a 40 acre field ain't shit. That ain't shit. That's a quarter.  

A quarter of a section. And if you're gonna that ain't gonna even fill one little grain bin. That's not even are you just trying to feed your own animals and you only got a couple of animals?   Like, this is tiny.   And   so you've gotta be able to do whole sections   and do, do them every day. And the same thing comes when it comes time for picking. If you can't just rip a combine down it, if you've gotta grow like I do, where I've gotta go in and I've gotta reach between the   the the   tomatoes   and pull out the peppers and and harvest things as they're coming, and everything's gotta be kinda done differently,   and everything's gotta be done by hand.  

Your food's gonna be expensive   because it takes tons of people and it's very labor intensive and   theirs it it isn't.   But that's what you get when you're gonna eat commercial.   So you either need to have a shit ton of people doing it or you need to just take control of your own food back and grow your own food, learn how to can again,   learn how to do all those kind of things, join in a cooperative where four or five people are all,   you know, a milk even a small milk cow puts out two, three gallons a day. You can get four, five, six, seven people each getting a gallon a week, and you go and you take a a bale of hay a week or something, and then you get whole you get raw milk and the best milk in the world.   Things like that. But these kind of things take work. It's not that's the problem is is what you what people really got sold on is convenience. And they don't wanna give that up for nothing. They wanna bitch around, oh, we're getting poisoned.  

Look, They they gave us this,   this pasteurized   milk and it's poisoning us. Oh, really? Well, I go down and milk my cows.   I come up here   and I I strain it. I put it in the fridge. Three, four days later, that milk's tangy.   If I was to try and sell that commercially, I would it would take a day to buy send it to the bottling plant, then a day to deliver it out to the different stores, and then it's gonna sit in the store for a couple days. It's already gone bad before you've even purchased it. Like,   if you want if you want fresh milk, you need to go through the effort of getting yourself some fresh milk.   Like, that it it it it's not easy. People want the easy and   they want it cheap,   and, it doesn't exist.  



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We get one of the It's the the habits. So the habits form over a lifetime   towards   an economic outcome   that   does not have infinite growth. So now we're at the point where we're past the the point of return. We can't go back and undo some financial decisions and fix the economy.   The the the strategic Bitcoin reserve  

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isn't gonna save anybody. Whatever. That is so insane to me. We're setting aside this strategic   reserve  

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of magic computery stuffs. Right. So the information economy, intellectual   property,   this type of thing, that was what was sold. The the intelligent worker who could sit at a terminal   and type some commands and code and and make some something happen where money is generated and value is generated. That was sort of the lifestyle that we were sold to be convenient to have,   you know, white collar jobs, didn't have to get our hands dirty,   air conditioning   in the summer, heat in the cold. You wouldn't have to sweat. You wouldn't have to get, you know, dirt under your fingernails. You'd have a nice respectable job. And then you'd get into a middle management position.   After a few years, you'd advance. You'd be a middle manager,   and then you just not have to do anything but tell people what to do. So you sit in your office and just direct the labor flow.  

But now   that's that's that didn't generate income. There was too many people sitting in those positions of middle management   that were gumming up all all the decisions, preventing anything from getting done, and the the jury of the the board, the the the deciders   couldn't decide anything. Managers  

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originally still had to do work. You were still out on the floor. Mhmm. You weren't the manager in the office. You still were on the floor. Well, they didn't wanna be on the floor,   and the manager didn't wanna have to listen to that kind of shit. So he wanted to be over here. So and this is always how this works. This is how you end up with a top heavy company because everybody wants to be away from the actual work being done and do less and less.  

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Right. So if everybody who works at the low floor and they work their way up till they get an office position,   you're gonna just overstuff the offices.   Yeah.   So then those people are gonna expect,   severance packages, retirement packages, all this sort of benefit. But then, you know, the the money doesn't work, so they have to cut those people off  

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early before they get their retirement off. They cut off the workers,   the low level guys.  

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They make all the cuts everywhere.   Yeah. They they have to downsize. They have to right size. They have to figure out how do we get the the thing to work.   What I'm arguing here is that our whole education system   and media, television, film, they've all portrayed   farmers   as poor and never able to advance in their careers or have any success in life. So there was   that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that   that   learn to code, have a, you know, build your own app for iPhone, and then retire early.  

That doesn't work anymore.  

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So now The difference is is I I don't make shit being a farmer, dude. But the difference is is I also I don't let nobody else tells me what to do any anytime.   Now while I do have my chores I gotta do, like I said, there's that's flat out.   There is all kinds of time during the day. I just do what the fuck I want.   I live how I want. We laugh, and and we aren't, like,   fucking fuck abouts.   But   we live a pretty nice life. Nobody ever yells at us. Nobody tells us what to do.   The the world tells us what to do. You know? Like,   oh, look. It's storming out. It's we're having an atmospheric river, and, yay, culvert's clogged. If we wanna still have a road, we're gonna have to go ahead and throw our rain gear on and slug out there and stand in the fucking   torrential downpour   with with water up to our freaking knees   and reach down and try and dig this culvert out till the water flows back again. There are nothing you can do about that. That's just, you know, if I wanna have a road, I'm gonna have to do it. But   other than that,   we we eat how we want. We smoke how we want.  

You know? I get up.   I if I wanna take a dab right when I get up, I do. If I wanna wait a few hours, I do. I don't give a shit. It doesn't matter.   If I gotta do a podcast because somebody scheduled a podcast and it's a weird time of day, I can schedule all my shit around it. It it it doesn't matter. I live how I wanna live, and it's   nobody bothers me. I'm free. And then the other thing that they can't ever understand is   is the reason that they're so scared is because   they are so incapable.   Like, the whole reason that a bird isn't scared like, when you see a bird land on a branch that you're pretty sure can't hold the bird, the bird's not really relying on the branch. It doesn't care. It's it's it knows that it can just fly off at any given time.   And at any given time, it doesn't matter where you drop me. I have skill sets   and the abilities to live and survive.  

And and in the city, I can go survive. Out in the country, I can go survive. You drop me off in the Alaskan wilderness,   I will survive.   Like, I will be just fine no matter where I am. So that brings a confidence and a pride that they just can't even understand.   It's why they vote so heavily for protections   because they're scared.  

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They have,   warranted fear. They have to hire private security   and move in towards surveillance economies to protect themselves because they don't have the muscle themselves   to defend themselves.   So for those people who   continue to   delegate   and, you know, skirt responsibilities to offshore accounts,   those people know that they don't have a sustainable lifestyle.   And that clock is ticking faster and faster to the point where   the infrastructure   breaks down, the government stops going to work.   We don't have, you know, payment and distributed.  

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Top heavy, everything,  

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all the way down. Right. So then the natural   equilibrium   will find itself   over time.   What you're arguing for, and I'm in agreement with you, is that,   you know, before   you're forced   to   rehogs yourself because you can't pay a mortgage you can't pay an impossible mortgage payment,   Get ahead of the thing.  

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Good. Initiative. Wait. Hang on. Real real quick. Okay.   Do you think a natural equilibrium can find itself in an unnatural or artificial environment?  

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On a computer screen, it might. Like, I mean, in the with numbers. Natural and artificial environment that we  

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exist in in three-dimensional   space.  

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It it's impossible to live a a natural organic life in a a situation   where   all of the bureaucracy   exists in an unnatural, hypothetical,   theoretical AI algorithmic   computer model.  

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Okay. So are we by default in a simulation at this point?  

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The simulation   is the layer upon layer upon layer   of   virtualization   of reality.   So we have virtual Zoom meetings.   We're talking now, but we're not in the same room together.  

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Yeah.  

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City people are in a simulation.  

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They're they're in a simulated   economy.   Yeah. Simulated Controlled. Yep. It's controlled. They have red lights. They have   jails. They have enforcement of the laws,   order followers,   making the thing work   for those who are   at the top of it.   And it keeps the people at the bottom   in their position.   There's no ladder to climb.   So   playing by those rules   doesn't get you any further than anyone else.  

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See, there there is where I have a problem. I actually don't have a problem with a class system. I have a problem with a static   class system. If you can move   in the class system, like, some people, they just wanna be a worker, and there's nothing wrong with that. If that's what you wanna be and that's all you aspire to, cool.   Like, we need the most of the people need to be like that. And if that's who you are, cool.   And and and but then also don't complain about that either. You know, that's the level you're on. That's you get the things that come with that level. You don't have to do any thinking. You go to work. You get you do what you're told for a few hours. You go home to your shack. You hump your wife. You you eat your supper. You go to bed. Cool.  

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The corporate corporate world doesn't like that type of person.   When you get your review and you and you say, I I don't want a raise. I don't want more hours. I don't want a new title. I just wanna continue doing my same job day after day after day because you tell them you don't have any,   desire to advance within their   company.  

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They vacated their position, so it doubles down on all the lower positions. Everything's so top heavy in all these companies now. They've moved all the responsibility   that the lower ends   and all the the,   fruits of the labors to the upper echelons,   and and it's it's a really just bad, bad system. I I think   for for for starts, it's corporations.   Corporations should be outlawed.   There should be no such thing as a corporation in my opinion.  

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I'm writing that down. Outlaw corporations.   What's what's your next step?   Yeah. Well, operations are outlawed. Corporation We would go back.  

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We would go back to the gold standard, which would include, I understand,   a a harsh reduction of our economy.   Because part of the reason that we're able to bloat out an economy is because we live on a credit economy. Right. Even the government does that. And and so that allows you to do things that you weren't able to do, but it bloats your economy to a point where it's unfeasible, and then you have a Banks and banks and credit unions aren't giving out personal loans. They're they're they don't they're not doing personal loans anymore. So   we live in a world Well, that's because we're getting ready to have an OA type collapse again. Yeah. We and you can easily tell that because of,   the the rent on a home   has now gotten to the point where it's almost, like, if you wanted to rent an apartment,   it's basically a % of what your income would be. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  



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Yeah. Yeah. I'm in Marin County.   If you wanna rent   a three bedroom,   house here,   it's   $556,500   dollars a month.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. And that's fucking insane.  

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So the thing that I love about,   outlawing corporations   is that in 1872,   the United States government became a corporation.   So if you outlawed corporations, you would have to dismantle the federal government immediately.  

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%.   The federal government, a %, needs dismantled. It was never supposed to become this overwhelming thing. It was supposed to,   be something that regulated interstate traffic and commerce,   you know, which was a mild regulation, making sure somebody isn't fucking somebody else is basically all you were doing.   Just kind of being a moderator,   and letting the two parties   interact as they choose.   And then the the mutual   defense of the country   is the only jobs the federal government was really supposed to have. And now the federal government's they're they were never supposed to own state land, never supposed to do anything like that. Now they own more state land than anybody else.  

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Except for China and Bill Gates. Yeah.  

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No. BLM owns more than China. Yeah. No. I know. I'm I'm fucking   It was funny, though.   Like, the the the shit's gotten so crazy.   And, yeah, I would a % outlaw corporations.   I would,   put us back on the gold standard,   and   I would   probably put   stiff regulations on credit   in general. I think people are the the whole problem is is people have moved.   So my whole life, I've been given shit, especially when I was younger   because I didn't have as much as my friends did because I didn't buy things on credit.   And the the the one thing I ever did buy on credit, I did buy my very first house on credit.   I put down a substantial down payment, like a 30 or 40% down payment or something like that.  

I bought my first house on credit.   Sold it,   during the housing bubble, not before not after the bubble burst, but   before. So it came out of that pretty nicely. But,   I did layaway.   Like, my first my first, the first wedding ring I bought, you know, the it was a layaway for, like, six months.   I bought a lot of things on layaway, and everybody buys things on credit because then you can get things that you wouldn't normally afford,   and you can supposedly just pay a little bit.   And it's just led us into this   holy, horrible place where when I was a little kid,   and I was in,   like, econ econ and things like that,   they talked about 80% of American wealth was in their homes.  

And now most people don't own a home. The the that that's that owning your own land and all that is gone. Most people don't own anything that's a bunch of junk that they bought on credit, and it wasn't a wise investment in the first place. Because when you're buying it on credit, there's some weird thing where   something you wouldn't have necessarily thrown away the cash on   because it's not actual cash. You'll buy some real dumb shit, and   people just go Gonzo with it.   I got kinda lucky, actually. My, my ex wife,   when we were high school sweethearts you know, I she was my high school sweetheart. We, we were together for a long time then.  

She got credit cards when we were young right before we bought a house, and I had to pay off all her fucking credit cards when we went to go to buy a house. And I had no she was buying these,   stupid little wolf plates,   And they were like some collection of wolf plates, and I remember the commercials on TV, and they'd go up in value and all this bullshit.   And,   she had a whole she even had to buy then, she had to buy display cases to put the wolf plates in so they could stay nice and American art.   No. It was,   something exchange. It was like a a company, and they put out different plates. Oh. And it's not even plates you eat. They just sit on a little thing. Yeah. Decorative. Decorative. Yeah. Yeah.  

And hers   hers,   you know,   the freedom of choice thing, here's here's the deal,   is,   we're   at you can only give that freedom of choice really to people that are educated and and intelligent enough to to exercise   said choice.   It's the problem where I'm coming in at.   And even like we all know I I use cannabis.   I could actually argue   against legalization   of cannabis at this point.   From the things that I've seen   country and from the people, I could,   I could argue against it because   we are such an immature,   irresponsible,   no account motherfuckers.  

We can't handle anything.   And it's wild, and I don't  

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so I've always I've always been, on the side of the gray market   in   the cannabis legalization   argument.   I've always been anti   legalization,   because what it effectively does   is it turns it into   corporate chemically produced cannabis   that oversaturates   the market,   drives out small to medium farmers,   and crushes   any sort of legitimate   competition   in a in an actual free market, which is the exact same argument   that I would have, William,   for well, there has to be corporations.   No. There there doesn't. In fact, what corporations   do   is monopolize a market, limit competition, limit innovation, drive down people's ability   to have a successful idea   and see it to fruition.  

Does that mean banning outright? No accountability,   All while taking no accountability. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What yeah. While hiding behind a team of, you know, rapacious Jew lawyers   that are only exist to make sure that the monopoly   thrives.   So,   it   it would be better off without them. Now we do live in reality,   and we have to recognize   that we're there. So it's incumbent on us to take steps away from that corporate monopolistic   structure   that discourages innovation,   that discourages   individual   success, that discourages   the ability for communities   to operate independently   and not completely dependent on one or two major corporations   to drive the entire economy of the community.  

You can say, well, do you have to have all things or freedom means you have to have all things?   Sure. But you also have to recognize   with any sort of couple of brain cells to rub together that what you're welcoming into your home is the actual fucking devil.   And if that's what you want to do, well, then, you know, that's that's your choice. What what what what again, corporations  

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is is just like what I was talking about earlier with credit. What a corporation is for is unnatural growth.   Allowing for growth that wouldn't normally happen. Yeah. Why is it a corporation?   Because   you had a company   that had an,   either an individual or a couple of owners answerable for the company,   and they took it and made it,   they wanted to become a much bigger company much quicker than the natural progression of that company would have been.   So they sold out pieces of the company,   and now the company has become this of its own thing, which is truly only for profit.   And there's never been a time in history that that's that that's been a thing. So I'm not saying that a large companies haven't existed,   but this thing where companies became their own entity   because it's got a conglomeration of owners, and there's nobody that you can walk up to and say, hey, buddy.  

You guys are doing bad business, and you're gonna answer for that. Yeah. There's nobody that answers with corporations.  

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This is a super weak argument in terms of, like, trying to defend a corporate structure because a corporate structure is an artificial entity   that doesn't exist   without   the, in most cases, government subsidies.   So especially the major ones.   That's the there's no good without the bad. That's that's a super weak argument.  

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You can have a thriving competitive I mean, I mean, I agree with the argument. I just don't know where where you would see that this has to be in there. Yeah. In terms of this,  

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no. You're talking about artificially   propping up an entity   where the government and a small handful of people   get to pick winners and losers.   Whereas in   nature,   it it is very, very, very different.   So it it's yeah.   The weak and, dare I say, fallacious.  

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Yeah. The the the the the the more fallacious part I would go with on this, which Willie William's a brilliant guy, and he's trying to pick a fight. He's purposely doing this, which is Oh, it's fun. It's great.   But, I appreciate it.   But I   the the thing is is corporations   never have existed in history, and neither has anything like it. Until the Dutch East India Company.   Right. Which,   you know,  

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The model on which all other corporations   were built.  

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True. The the and exactly. And and and what this brings to light is, again,   the the   company exists solely for profit, and that's where the real problem comes in. Is other companies,   you know, it make and I'm not against I I'm actually not against capitalism. I'm not against making a profit. If you do good work and you do good work above and beyond other people,   you should make more money than other people. Your product should get sold for more, and I'm not against that at all.   And and it'll be more desirable in the in the economy in in the world. Like, I I'm fully for this system. I think it's wonderful.   But when you add in corporations,   corporations,   there's not an accountable person that wants to have a a actual company reputation.  



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Let's let's get William on the show for this. And and you you gotta you gotta   you gotta stop just throwing bumper stickers at us.   Okay?   Like, that's it it okay.   Sure.   Yes.   But   you you gotta stop throwing bumper stickers. Fridge magnets and bumper stickers. Yeah. It's not a debate, man. You're more than welcome to come on the show,   but this kind of shit   has, like, no weight, whatever.   It's feathers in a river. Well, it's not really a argument  

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he's holding. Yeah. It it's not which I agree with you can't have the good without the bad. Yeah. Of course. I agree with that part, but I'm saying that this thing is   a a a thing that wouldn't have counted. It's like adding steroids into the mix or something. You're like like, yeah. You would've if you go out and you work out eight hours a day,   you're gonna build good muscle.   And and then but there's also gonna be some downsides. You're gonna, you know, do some destruction on your body. You're also not gonna,   build up social time. You're not gonna,   build up a work time and and maybe big get land. You're gonna have everything into your physique. There's gonna be drawbacks.  

But then you add in steroids to the mix. That's basically what you're doing here. Here. Now you're just making it a wholly unnatural weird thing. And nobody's getting flustered. We're trying to be kind.  

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So it it may sound like   we're we're being deliberative   or, you know, not saying everything that we wanna say because we're trying to be kind.   But that's all it is. I don't know you. I'm I'm not gonna be my usual,   you know,   fucking   dick self  

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to you. Well, yeah, William can take the dick,  

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treatment. He is a tough I've heard that. I saw that on a bathroom wall in a truck stop in Iowa.  

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He, Is that the relationship argument? He,   he,   that dude put his money where his mouth is more than anybody I know. So he used to go around building the, you know, the basically, an ATM that's like a bank.   Mhmm. He'd go build them fucking things. And he he got paid to just he go there, do the whole thing, program it, all that bullshit.   And they tried they tried making him wear masks and doing all the COVID things, and he said, you know what? Fuck off. Dude moved   off grid, built it built his own place from scratch, the whole damn nine.   Yeah. You know?  

The dudes and and he didn't put up with no shit through the whole   through all of that. Like, he got he didn't,   put up crap from airport. He's just putting forth a wholly disingenuous argument. That's all. Well, that's what I'm saying. He's purposely trying to to just get some get some, gets. It's a debate show. He's trying to get some spunk going here, and I appreciate it. That's why I said I appreciate what he's doing.  

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Yeah. Splunk,   getting going.  

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Yeah. The guy the guy the guy literally,   did exactly what he said he was gonna do and to more of a degree than   most people that I know, like, by far. I mean and I know some people that bucked the system. Well, it's fantastic.   Yeah.   But,   also, when you do that kind of thing, you do learn lessons, and there are parts where, like like, when I talk about that, I have no problem with a class society.   A lot of people would be surprised by that. And that, like, when I talk about, like, while while I've always been mostly an anarchist, that's kinda the way I especially the way I live, I also understand that,   in a society we all gotta put into the society.  

So there's gotta be some methodology   of that. And that,   because of, like,   these,   these little,   off grid communities that they tried to build that, you know, where everybody's a hippie. Well, the reason those all fell apart is because when you do those kind of things and you don't do something like charge taxes that force people to do that, then it turns out that most people just don't put into the community at all. And then when the commute they'll just use what they can until the whole thing falls apart, and then they'll move on.   Yeah. And they just don't care.  

And and that's a horrible thing to understand about people. It really is. You really want you know,   I had the big dream of I wanna have a whole group of friends, and we all build an off grid self sufficient community   and blah blah blah. And I've tried it for years, and I gotta tell you, 90%   of the people, 90   maybe is I'm probably being generous with 90. 90 percent of the people when they get here, they'll wanna work for a few minutes, and then they basically don't wanna do anything else. And the and the funny thing is is the ones that do the least   when it comes time to   eat, when it comes time to   smoke, when it comes time to drink,   they want the most.  

Anything they did was worth the most.   Like, they don't even get they don't even understand why you should get preferential treatment having been the owner and having even did a whole shit ton of things just to get it to this point where they could enjoy the fruit of this that maybe you should also enjoy some of those fruits. Maybe even a little more like, nah. Nah, dude. You know what? I did twenty minutes worth of chores this morning.   Like, I deserve the lion's share.   Like   yeah. You know? And and   you don't want it to be like that way, but when you start doing it, you just realize that that's just the way the people are today. Yeah.  

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No. I I did   completely agree with you. I I saw it.  

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Yeah. Steve was here. Right. Obviously, Steve and I are still friends. Like, Steve and Steve was here. He he's in the pictures and things. He it just so happened. He got right before the thing, he got evacuated from his house. So it, that was the funny thing. That's the part we never even mentioned is whenever when Steve called to see if he could cut, you know, hey, man. I'm evacuated. Can I come at your place? Yeah.   Also, there's gonna be, like, 30 other strangers there, dude.  

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So No. I showed up and built steps for your deck.   Yeah. Then you're still standing, by the way. Like an air right.  

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I did have to level out and put some,   cement blocks   Oh, yeah. Below them because my dad couldn't quite get up on that first step.  

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Yeah.  

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But now he's had that heart surgery. He's a lot more spunky. He's already used got more color and everything else.   They took his house out  

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there. They were like, call him on. And then they put it back in. The first time I actually met Ben in real life, I couldn't fucking sit still, and I wound up, like,   fixing,   fucking spot on the roof and fucking dis like, yeah. Battery room.   Yeah. Yeah. Because it was leaking in your battery room, and that was bad. Bad. It was not great.   That was not great.  

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Yeah. The batteries that run the whole house.  

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Yeah. Yeah. There was water running down it and onto the batteries,  

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which I felt was not And dug a giant fire pit.  

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Yeah. Did that too. Dude. Yeah.  

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We were burning logs.  

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That was great, dude. That was awesome.  

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Until that helicopter. Until the helicopter came.   All fun and games till the Black Topper shows up. Yeah.  

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Yeah. I'm just curious. What are you guys doing out here?  

[02:01:36] Unknown:

Yeah. They were they were leaning out the fucking helicopter with their,   with with their,   heavy armor and their   large rifles   and staring at us, and we could see the colors of their eyes.   Mhmm. You could see the whites of their eyes.  

[02:02:00] Unknown:

Well, man, William got awful quiet   after knocking himself over, patting himself on the back.   Yeah.  

[02:02:13] Unknown:

I would like William to come in and For sure. I wish he would, though debate,   the the   Christianity   and philosophy   such. He puts a lot of thought and time into such.   And, he's put a lot of study in the and and in the heathenism.   He's he's studied,   read the different texts and whatnot, put a lot of thought into it.   And I think on either side, he could do some good poking.   We do well against Jim Bob, and Jim Bob said that he was honored to be debating with the whatever this with this, other fella.   So I'm gonna be listening to him tomorrow.   Today, I or last night, I was listening to,   a flow debate, and it was a good one because Jim Bob gets real caught up on logic.  

And, the Christians have this real weird view of logic.   And,   they're they're a bit confused,   a bit confused,   And,   this debate was along that same lines.   And this is where, Jim Bob always tends to drag things.   Like, if he's if he's in a bait debate, he wants to muddy the water and get it away from this. He'll he'll drag it into this zone, and this is the whole argument he'll take is that whole Christian   logic, and logic comes from the mind   and the the awe in in God, and it it will exist without humans. So it's part of God.   And   to have knowledge or gnosis, you need God, and they do this whole circular thing then where everything's God, and it's it's it's asinine.  



[02:04:03] Unknown:

Is there a Christian computer programming language and a Christian operating system and a We're trying to get people to talk back, William.  

[02:04:12] Unknown:

We're trying.   You son of a bitch. Don't poke us in a sore spot. We are trying   real hard.   We have said   Steve and I have said some downright   rough   shit on the Internet and cannot get a motherfucker to come in here. Jim Bob is the first one, and he's apparently bringing   a very good debater. Hopefully, that opens up some doors. For sure.  

[02:04:41] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:04:43] Unknown:

We want to open doors and find ways through and solutions and things that just it it requires a lot of brainpower and a lot of mackerel and fish proteins to get through these live long streams. Rico's help as well.   I I was a little concerned about,   you know, arts and culture. If everyone in culture wants to be an artist   and create something beautiful, that's great.   But, I feel like I was maybe misled by Anya when she was singing her song   lay away, lay away, lay away. Is that the or no go flow? Like,   the credit freeze.  

[02:05:19] Unknown:

Michael's a stupid, super solid dude too. We got a really solid   chat. Alright. The people in our chat are solid ass people.  

[02:05:27] Unknown:

Yeah.   No. And everybody's,   for the most part, got sharp elbows and Yeah. You know? Honor fuckers.  

[02:05:35] Unknown:

Arguing amongst ourselves to to strengthen each other, to poke holes in arguments.   Yeah. That's the good stuff. And stuff. Make fun of everything.   No no sacred cows, you know.   Sorry to vegetarians   who  

[02:05:51] Unknown:

So they don't Yeah. We keep trying, fucker. It's everybody runs away from it.   That's what we've done been saying.   Every time we have the the a debate scheduled,   somebody goes, nah.  

[02:06:05] Unknown:

Nah. We had a schedule for tonight. Now this guy, though,   he did have things come up, and then also he's bringing a second debater so that way we can just fall on two on two. And he just rescheduled.   We did have a debate. And we've had you've been gone a few weeks, William. We've actually had a pretty good streak. We had, like, three debates in a row. Yeah.  

[02:06:28] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:06:29] Unknown:

None of them were people Steve invited.   Everybody Steve invites bails.  

[02:06:35] Unknown:

They all find a reason to bitch out at the last minute. It's the the the dude's name could literally  

[02:06:41] Unknown:

literally be debatey debater. I'll debate anybody, and Steve will be like, hey. You wanna debate? And they'll be like, yeah. And then they'll bail, like, an hour before the show. Right. Okay. Within twenty four hours, and they'll be by  

[02:06:54] Unknown:

Nico House twice, Jay Dyer blocked by Jay Dyer now.   F Gardner   was supposed to come on. He bitched out at the last minute.   It it's,   oh, yeah. And Christy Kringle got blocked by Jay Dyer too.  

[02:07:10] Unknown:

Nice.   Oh, Christy.   Yeah. Because we were I somehow didn't, and I was throwing I was not just throwing elbows. I was climbing the fucking on top of the cage   and tucking elbows.   Like and I was doing the full on macho man.   You know? Like and I I I was like because I as soon as when he blocked Steve, I was like, oh, well, the dude's never gonna debate us anyway, so I'm just gonna I'm I'm taking off the ball. I just will be a dick now.   Yeah. And so, like, I got vicious about it. Andrew Wilson agreed to debate us back in October and has bailed the whole time. Like, we've gotten peep a bunch of people that   agree, and then they just bail on us.  

But, again, Jim Bob   has agreed, and I and I honestly believe he's not bailing. He's just had some shit come up, and then also a partner. He's trying to coordinate with a partner. So he was really cool about it, real respectful.   Jay Dyer is here. I can handle that. The way Jay Dyer, like, Jay Dyer blew some shit out of proportion. He was like, oh, you know what? Now I'm not even gonna come on your show. Like, dude, that's what you were trying to do anyways. Quit pretending. Fucking what a fucking child. I've raised fucking seven kids. I know what a fucking teenager acts like when they're making bullshit excuses.   Like, you're such a pink wearing little bitch.  



[02:08:31] Unknown:

Yep. Tone pleasing people on the Internet   who are in the debate world,   that's what made x Twitter,   social media. That's what   gets engagement. That's what continues to bring people back. It's the the flame war. We're always going   to find the thing we disagree with and then keep punching in down, down, down until we find a new thing to disagree with or to be shocked by or what is this is what we do. Now in terms of being able to hold the platform on a live video call and just go for two or three hours to really, really focus on the topic and then explore from different angles,   that's what the deliberation   and debate is about. But to have these little   little fights where it's like a few sentences at a time and then block.  



[02:09:19] Unknown:

Marcus and I called out a whole group of occultists.   I forgot about that one. Like, six of them in this whole society. We called out the whole fucking group. They were even fighting with another dude that we know. They quit fighting with him too. They're like, oh, never mind. We don't we don't no. No.  

[02:09:37] Unknown:

It's anti intellectual   to   not read a person's book and then critique them anyway. If you put out a book or a debate or a platform or something, we will engage with it. We will read it. We'll watch the video, and then we'll talk to you about it.   That's what we want to do.  

[02:09:56] Unknown:

I watch most of those guys too. I even actually agree with Andrew Wilson through a lot of things. I'm actually in a lot of shock that he acted like this over it. I actually don't watch Jay Dyer. I'm personal friends with,   with with, Freeman Fly,   and I can't handle dudes like that. And he's just not the type of dude I would've liked anyways, and then I got personal reasons not to like him. So and I don't expect anybody else to do that, you know, feel like that at all.   But that's just me. Whatever. You know? Cool. So but I I I I I listen to Andrew. I find Jim Bob hilarious. I like some of the stuff he does.   Some of it I find to to me, Jim Bob is straight up,   Gilbert Godfried, so I can find him hilarious for a little while in in certain bursts. Like, I think his fucking,   when he when he's making fun of,   Jordan Peterson. Oh, it's so great. It's so good.  

And but then,   Macha, I know that's you.   Fucking stop.   It's two boys. Oh, it's two boys? It's Macha's mom.   Well, it's one of Macha's kids. It sounded just like her.   Ridiculous. He's right here too. But I enjoy those guys also. So I've been kinda shocked   because,   again,   I I'm an actual off grid, you know, blue collar, bust ass dude.   Been in the military the whole nine.   You know?   To me, it's nothing to to brawl it out with other dudes. You know? That's what you do with dudes when you enjoy it. And   it's it's weird to me because it seems like,   most of these guys, they just wanna punch down. Mhmm. That's the only thing they wanna do, and I and I don't even find that fun.  



[02:11:41] Unknown:

It's not.   It's it's just not.   Yeah. It's fucking   lame, dude.   Yeah.   No. I'd I I would rather, you know, much rather go ahead   and, like, take a beating and learn something from it   then sit there   and drop fucking elbows from the top rope on a dupe.  

[02:12:07] Unknown:

So our goal here is not to win every debate every time by any means necessary?  

[02:12:14] Unknown:

I didn't assume I could beat Andrew Wilson. The dude's a the dude's a practice debater. I've not I've I've not been in very many actual debates, and I'm not saying I'm even good at it or even a little good at it. Mhmm. Like, I'm a very beginner at it. I'm an   I assumed he would win just based off of he's a polished   experienced debater. He's gonna come up with some tactic or something that's   something. I don't fucking know.  

[02:12:40] Unknown:

Well, I I again, I don't know anything about sports, but I understand that if one team defeats another team,   they will remain in the league and continue playing. There'll be more and more seasons.   We want to go on, move forward, have more Tuesday nights, and talk to people we've already talked to   again and again and again.   Not necessarily having to disagree or agree or concede any points, but continue the conversation.   Yes. So it doesn't have to be an all or nothing   debate.   This is not going to be a to the death fight. This   is strengthening through sparring and   then getting better at what we're doing.  



[02:13:23] Unknown:

Dude, have you even seen on the Twitters now? It's become a thing where they start   their fist people are physically,   like, yeah. And let's let's   let's also box. You know, like, in one actually, like, they're gonna get it. Motherfucking, you computer nerd ass bitches.   Don't make me limp up to something and fucking   piss on your fucking leg.   Get the fuck out of here.  

[02:13:48] Unknown:

Dude, I'm almost 47. I have a bad leg. I don't fight anymore. I'll just shoot you.   Like, there there's, you know, it it it's I it ain't gonna happen.  

[02:14:00] Unknown:

You dudes have played video games too much. You didn't actually get into fist fights when you were young. When you're in the by the time you're this age, you should not be wanting to do that. I have a nose that goes three different fucking directions, man. %.  

[02:14:14] Unknown:

Hundred %. I grew up fucking Like, this is bales and   literally  

[02:14:20] Unknown:

Yeah. Look at that. That thing just slopes off and just  

[02:14:24] Unknown:

Yeah. I know.   I know.  

[02:14:27] Unknown:

I don't wanna punch things anymore. It makes my head useless for a week. Fuck all that. No. It's way easier to shoot somebody. It really is.  

[02:14:37] Unknown:

Fuck all that, dude. I don't wanna fight anybody.  

[02:14:40] Unknown:

I don't Yeah. I've been the winner more than a few times. Yeah. I'm the winner. My now I think it's cold. My hand doesn't close. We played that story, like, a month ago, but it's great. If you've never heard the  

[02:14:51] Unknown:

Shel Silverstein   song as performed by Kris Kristofferson,   the winner, Go listen to it after the show.   It'll   give you an idea.  

[02:15:02] Unknown:

Oh, I know you I I know you wouldn't I know you were fucking around. I'm talking about actually,   I'm talking about in the Twitters, people are actually being serious about this and, like, talking about having fights since actually get having fights, you're like,  

[02:15:17] Unknown:

oh, god. There's, like, 50 year old dudes being, like, let's put on boxing gloves and get in the ring.   Motherfucker, you can't do three push ups.   We we gonna you're gonna throw a couple of fucking haymakers in the gasp wind for four minutes? Like, what the fuck?   Why would you put yourself out for embarrassment like that? Why would you? For clicks?  

[02:15:46] Unknown:

Really? Like, you're not gonna do that. It just makes you look foolish. You're not actually gonna do it.   Like, get the fuck out of here. Most of you have never been in a fight. You've you've played computer shit your whole life.  

[02:15:58] Unknown:

Mhmm. You've never even been in an actual fight. Yeah. And the last fight you got was in fifth grade, and somebody beat your ass under the monkey bars and fucking shoved you in the little fucking plastic turtle, walked away.  

[02:16:11] Unknown:

I said, if you did do stupid shit like that and had fun like that, you walk like me and Steve and William.   Not well.   And gangster limbs are real thing. Not that nature scene. Oh, shit.   Like, when we walk when any of us walk, there's actually multiple directions. You're like, is the fucking gyroscope broken that thing? You're like, why did you go   Barry Sanders go like, Barry Sanders go fucking   two feet sideways in order to get one foot forward.   Right?   Yeah. Like, well, yeah. Because, every time I try to step, this part gives out, and I've gotta do this to offset the shit. And then, eventually, I stumble forward a little bit, and that was my progress.   But, hey.  



[02:16:56] Unknown:

No. You're going uphill   again, but it's the same zigzag as going downhill.   Oh, man.  

[02:17:09] Unknown:

Good times. My favorite is after I've been in a vehicle and I get out and look like I have to poop for, like, the next two hours because I'm walking because I'm walking, like, with my butt, like, stuck out and, like, hung down, like,   you just gotta walk around like that till you can finally stand up straight. You're like,   this is great.   Awesome.  

[02:17:33] Unknown:

Yeah. More than two hours in the truck.   Yeah. My shit just locks up.  

[02:17:40] Unknown:

Yeah. Now I've gotta spend an equal two hours walking around just to so I can straighten myself back up. We're gonna drive to Tennessee in a few weeks.   Dude, when Christie and I did that road trip all the way to North Carolina and fucking back in the truck, it was nice because we had that full sized actual bed in the back of the truck.   But still,   it reminded me I am not young anymore when I did shit like that all the time and just traveled around and fucked around and slept out in fields and things.   Like Well, we were sleeping outside in 20 This 20. This was this I was do it was 24 degrees back then too. I used to travel with a husky because the husky would sleep with me because it it like, in the husky, it'd keep me warm. Mhmm. I just ate a 10 strip and stayed awake.  



[02:18:32] Unknown:

Kept driving.  

[02:18:34] Unknown:

That's what I'm saying. Forgetting. I remember back with oh, god. And I had the 77 f one fifty, and it would only even defrost enough to where you could see, like, out of these two little half moons. You're like  

[02:18:45] Unknown:

yeah. 76 Continental for a while.  

[02:18:49] Unknown:

I got some good news on the automotive front. VW Volkswagen has decided that having,   a touch screen only interface, it was a terrible idea.   So in four years, once they get to their newest models in the future, they're gonna return to clicky buttons   for the hazard lights and some of the the essential functions of the vehicle.  

[02:19:12] Unknown:

I'm gonna return to the finally realized that having buttons in the car that you could physically press   might be a good idea.  

[02:19:20] Unknown:

Correct. Dude, I wanna go back to fucking manual windows. I haven't owned a vehicle that the fucking   windows don't go to shit. I just wanna be able to pull the goddamn thing up and down. That's that's all. I don't need it to be electric. Just put the damn handle back on there. I don't care if it's just a vice grips in a in a in a pokey sticking out with a vice grips. At least I could roll it up and down then. And triangle windows. And triangle  

[02:19:44] Unknown:

windows. Get rid of the automatic safety locks. Oh, yeah. The wing window is a must.   Yes. Dude,  

[02:19:51] Unknown:

air conditioner for poor folk. Yep. They got that burnt down. That was the sad part about it. It had it had the   triangle windows. It was awesome.  

[02:20:01] Unknown:

I missed those triangle windows. Heck, yeah. And those back.  

[02:20:06] Unknown:

Yeah. Those were the those were the best.   You  

[02:20:11] Unknown:

get it just right. This great experiment. You know, we've got a lot of data now. Let's let's analyze the data and figure out why don't that work. In a truck?  

[02:20:20] Unknown:

Just   turns into a tunnel.  

[02:20:24] Unknown:

Yes.  

[02:20:29] Unknown:

I gotta drop off here shortly, man. I got a long day ahead of me tomorrow.   I'm going back on tinfoil hat tomorrow   right after   my morning show.  

[02:20:42] Unknown:

So now is not a great time to bring up the topic of capital punishment and, execution. Oh, beat them kids.  

[02:20:55] Unknown:

No. We will, we will announce when Jim Bob gets back to me. I saw he said that he got, his   his in laws gave him tickets to Hawaii. So that's part of the other problem. So he's going on to Hawaii and well, while we're dead sexy During a lunch truck. This guy is going   to Hawaii during a lunch. I don't know. I I'm not sure what the rules of Lent are, but he said it's his first ever vacation, and he's going to Hawaii. Can't blame a guy on that one. Alright. Temptation. Okay. So we will we will,   announce when he gets back. He's not gonna he's not gonna keep us waiting. He said, you know, he's just getting he's he said he'll he'll do it ASAP.  

[02:21:36] Unknown:

Sure.  

[02:21:38] Unknown:

And we will have this an actual,   rough debate where we are really trying hard and then, trying to   dance around feelers.   And,   we'll try and get some other things set up.   Somebody give us options.  

[02:21:58] Unknown:

I'm thinking death penalty out here.   Capital punishment, the idea of firing squad, you know, fusillade.  

[02:22:05] Unknown:

Line them up and shoot them. You get multiple shooters. Yeah. That just happened the other day. That was that's back in the news again. A lot of people are pretty shocked that that even happens. I I seen a whole bunch of people saying, we still do that?  

[02:22:17] Unknown:

Well, he chose  

[02:22:19] Unknown:

it. Yeah. He said he'd rather take the firing squad over lethal injection because Lethal injections go bad. They they don't they don't finish the job. There's a lot more suffering.   It's more like waterboarding where people just they don't get enough of it or they get too little of it. It just doesn't work out. You know, a bullet to the head by three people firing at the same time.  

[02:22:43] Unknown:

Yeah. I gotta say I gotta say I I I'm not totally doubt. I'm not totally against lethal injection, but I would not do the gas chain. If you if it was like your your your basic I your basic typical ones historically were gas chamber,   lethal injection, firing squad,   and hanging Electric chair. Electric chair. I would have to say lethal injection and firing squad are my top two.   Like like, the other three sound horrible. Horrible.  

[02:23:14] Unknown:

Yeah. No. Just shoot me in the fucking face.   Yeah. Because I'm I'm yeah.   If it ever comes to it.   Yeah. Yeah. But and I don't even want I don't want the traditional firing squad where they're at, like, 12 paces or whatever. Just send a fucking No. I want a kazoole right here. Yeah. Send a stone based Chinaman.   Like, I could   with a fucking 45 or, like, a nineteen eleven or something like that. Just have them put it right up to my temple and do yeah. Yeah. Just a a fucking, like, dead eyed little Chinese fucker who ain't gonna care and then be like, okay. Mop that up.   Yeah. Yeah. That's what I want.  



[02:23:57] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. If it if it ever comes to you. Instant lights out. Don't want that whole   like, the like, the gas chamber, that sounds horrible. I I actually had asthma as a kid, so not being able to breathe freaks me out. And to be in a chamber full of gas that's slowly asphyxiating   and killing me. Oh, god. Oh, no. That's, like, that's, like, my worst nightmare.  

[02:24:19] Unknown:

Where'd you grow up in Indiana?   Lucy?   I'm from Anderson.  

[02:24:27] Unknown:

I was actually in prison during three executions. It's weird as fuck. Mhmm.   Really weird. Like, you can feel it   when it happens. It's weird as fuck.  

[02:24:42] Unknown:

We're convicted criminals.  

[02:24:44] Unknown:

Dingo, we don't condone nonconsensual   poetry.   Yeah. No. Okay. So I I grew up,   technically, I grew up in unincorporated   Anderson   off of 500   North in between Anderson   and fucking,   Alexandria.   But I went to Highland High School,   and I graduated in 1996.   And that's as far as I'm going to dox myself.   But yeah.  

[02:25:14] Unknown:

Shout out to Rumble. Lots of chat and rumble   tonight, also on Rockfin and YouTube.   Episode   28.   The day after March 10, Mario Day, Tuesday, March eleventh.  

[02:25:32] Unknown:

But I had a whole bunch of East Side friends,   because I did grow up half black.  

[02:25:37] Unknown:

I thought I thought it was that yesterday was Ben Day. My wife, I thought, sent me something the same and it was Ben Day. It's a Ben ten day? Every   day is Ben Day in my for my wife.   I like Ben Day. I agree. It probably is for the whole house. All the animals think it's Ben Day all the time also.  

[02:25:59] Unknown:

Let's see if Google and the US government work together on this, monopoly deal where   the Chrome browser   would be sold out of   the Alphabet company?  

[02:26:13] Unknown:

Well, they're not gonna they're they're fighting that tooth and nail, man.  

[02:26:17] Unknown:

So you have a corporation   versus a government   deciding   what a monopoly is or isn't or what's legal and what's illegal?  

[02:26:28] Unknown:

You're saying Madison And Cross Street?   Okay.   I see you.   It's gonna do.  

[02:26:38] Unknown:

Real recognizes real?  

[02:26:45] Unknown:

I used to skate Eighth Street and go fucking   oh, yeah. Greenbrier.   I I used to I yeah.   There was a liquor store in Henderson that would sell the fucking, like, 13 year olds.   Can't shout out to Kane's liquor.  

[02:27:09] Unknown:

Where I'm from is the Wolf Stop, and it's a drive through liquor store. Nice.  

[02:27:14] Unknown:

Yeah. So as long as you showed up in a car, you're okay. You couldn't just pull up on your skateboard.  

[02:27:21] Unknown:

Yeah. You pull up with your fucking with your drink in hand, like, yeah. Can I get some Everclear?   Yeah.   Yeah. How much?   Right. Yeah. Hold on. On. On. I don't wanna spill the phone.   Alright. Alright.  

[02:27:40] Unknown:

I don't think they got top notch.   Uh-huh. I got something for this, and then I I gotta drop out. You guys can do whatever you want.  

[02:27:53] Unknown:

No. We'll do we'll we'll go ahead and call it. We'll call it. Love you guys. We'll announce when, we'll obviously be back next Tuesday, but we'll announce whenever,   Jim Bob and,   mister,   Chase was it Chase?   I think he was staggered. Haggard? Yep. Jace Haggard. When those when those gentlemen,   announce   when they are ready to, brawl, and we will have us an official   full on brawl.   And, hopefully, that opens up the door to many more.  

[02:28:28] Unknown:

But, yeah, you you just brought up Everclear.   So I gotta do this, man.   I gotta  

[02:28:42] Unknown:

because where I'm from, you can get it at  

[02:28:51] Unknown:

the gas.  

[02:28:53] Unknown:

Everyday getting lunch in high school and all of my senior year, I'd drink my Coca Cola with a touch of Everclear.   I never had to study math,   science, or history.   I'd have a chemical flashback to jog my memory.   In my junior year, I swore I loved sweet miss Sherry Anne. And one night, I'd put some Everclear in a Doctor Pepper can.   Yeah. I thought it'd make her easy, but she took it pretty hard. I took her home and rang her doorbell, left her laying in the yard.   Tequila drives me out, and beer just makes me fat.   Whiskey makes me nauseous. Tell me who the hell needs that. If you're thinking without drinking. Then the answer's crystal clear. The team did the bull, intoxicate.  

It's called Everclear.   One batch of my hair, and he put it in the my turn's picnic   in the spring of eighty nine. Yeah. They had four fresh watermelon sliced right off the vine.   When they found their heads giving grace for the food,   hey, I pulled out my bottle and I soaked them melons good. And they never knew what hit them. When the boats went to work, they had grandmas doing backflips. Grandpa's looking up their skirts. They were singing hallelujah   and Willie Nelson's songs. Preachers said it was the best dang picnic that the Baptist have ever thrown.   Tequila dries me out, and beer just makes me fat.  

Whiskey makes me nauseous. Tell me who the hell needs that. Here we're thinking about drinking. Then the answer's crystal clear. It's the invisible,   intoxicate.   It's called Everclear.   When I'm drinking, never clear. I think I'm king of this whole world.   I'm bigger and better than John Wayne and cooler than Steve Earl.   Until I wake up and I'm face down in the hall, and I'm completely naked for a reason I can't recall.   But I'm kinda sorta thinking   that maybe I made a check because there's perfume   in the air and there's lipstick on my neck. And I hope that she was pretty and I hope that she was kind   Enough to leave my clothes somewhere there, easy to find.  

Tequila drives me out, and beer just makes me fat.   Whiskey Max McNosis, tell me who the hell needs that. If you're thinking about drinking, get the answers crystal clear, and be invisible   and toxic.   It's all ever clear.  

[02:32:34] Unknown:

Robert O'Kee.   Alright, everybody. Wow. That's crazy, man. Lucy's from my hometown.  

[02:32:43] Unknown:

Yeah. Fun fact, you mix Everclear with anything, it just it it it it you you mix it with any kind of a fruit juice. It tastes just like the fruit juice, only it's hot when it goes down. Yeah.  

[02:32:54] Unknown:

Yep. And then it lights out.   Yeah.   Yeah.  

[02:32:59] Unknown:

Yeah. It's got spunk. It's got spunk.   Like, that that's how you that's how you make sure that the, the the garbage can party goes well.   Fucking dude, when Mike's hard lemonade came out,   we went and spiked some of it. And my one of my best friends, Brian, he we give him we give him one because he's like, I'm just gonna drink Mike's. Like, oh, you're such a sissy fag. And we knew he was gonna do that, so we spiked him. And we gave him one, and he took a shot of it, and his whole fucking face and ears and everything turned red. Oh, it was so hilarious.  

[02:33:37] Unknown:

As it do.  

[02:33:38] Unknown:

Yeah.   That was like that was like some 20 proof from Mike's hired lemonade.  

[02:33:44] Unknown:

Thought the music was playing us out.  

[02:33:47] Unknown:

It it will it will well, you know,   kinda sort of. But, anyway, we don't take care of you guys.   Yeah. Stay away from Everclear.   We'll we'll see you next Tuesday. See you next Tuesday, guys.  

[02:34:02] Unknown:

Dudes.