Deliberating Dogface Dudes
Streamed live on Mar 4, 2025
Debates, WWE, and the Art of Giving Up for Lent
From Tunnels to Tariffs: Navigating Modern Conspiracies
Wrestling with Politics: A Humorous Take on Current Events
Mastering Police Encounters and Building Community Values
The Role of Men, Women, and Microplastics in Today's Society
(00:00:02) Introduction and Banter
(00:02:07) Guest Discussion and Conspiracy Theories
(00:06:10) Upcoming Debates and Topics
(00:13:02) Gender Roles and Relationships
(00:21:06) Environmental Activism and Debates
(00:28:03) American Manufacturing and Tariffs
(00:34:24) Farm Subsidies and Agricultural Policies
(00:41:00) Animal Culling and Food Supply
(00:50:01) Wrestling and Pop Culture References
(01:00:00) Independent Films and Recommendations
(01:10:00) Police Accountability and Audits
(01:50:00) Community Building and Events
(02:10:00) Cultural References and Nostalgia
In this lively episode, we dive into a variety of topics, starting with a humorous discussion about what to give up for Lent, leading to a playful banter about Mardi Gras beads and microplastics. We then transition into a more serious conversation about the nature of debates and the importance of having meaningful discussions, especially in the context of conspiracy theories and current events. Our guest, F Gardner, was expected to join us for a discussion on his work related to tunnels, but unfortunately, he backed out at the last minute.
We also touch on the political landscape, discussing the controversial New York Times chart on political decisions and the public's reaction to it. The conversation shifts to the world of WWE, with a humorous recap of recent events and a nod to the entertainment value of wrestling.
The episode takes a turn towards societal issues, including a debate on the role of men and women in relationships, the challenges of being a quality partner, and the societal expectations placed on individuals. We also explore the complexities of farm subsidies, the impact of tariffs, and the challenges facing American manufacturing.
In a more lighthearted segment, we discuss the cultural impact of movies and television, touching on topics like the Oscars, classic war films, and the evolution of entertainment. We also delve into the world of cryptocurrency, examining its role in wealth transfer and the government's involvement.
Finally, we highlight a masterclass in handling police encounters, featuring James Freeman's recent audit and his adept handling of law enforcement. This episode is packed with humor, insightful discussions, and a call to action for building communities that reflect our values.The podcast episode titled "Deliberating Dogface Dudes" covers a wide range of topics, blending humor, debate, and serious discussion. Here’s a summary of the key themes and discussions:
Main Topics Discussed:
- Upcoming Debate Preparation
- The hosts discuss an upcoming debate with Jim Bob and his friend, planning topics like gender roles, the Trinity, and societal expectations.
- They critique the nature of debates, emphasizing the importance of meaningful discussions over performative arguments.
- Conspiracy Theories and Current Events
- A planned discussion with guest F. Gardner (an author on tunnels) falls through, leading to banter about conspiracy theories and modern headlines.
- The hosts touch on political propaganda, media manipulation, and public reactions to controversial charts (e.g., New York Times’ political compass).
- Gender Roles and Relationships
- A humorous yet pointed conversation about traditional gender roles, with critiques of men who expect "traditional" partnerships without fulfilling their own responsibilities.
- The hosts argue that mutual respect and capability are foundational for healthy relationships.
- Environmental and Economic Issues
- Debates on farm subsidies, tariffs, and American manufacturing, with critiques of policies that incentivize waste over sustainable production.
- Discussion on environmental activism, including extreme tactics like sabotage, and the balance between conservation and economic needs.
- Pop Culture and Nostalgia
- WWE wrestling recaps and comparisons to political theatrics.
- References to movies like Jones Plantation (a critique of government systems) and Brave New World (dystopian themes).
- Nostalgic banter about classic TV shows, radio broadcasts, and cultural shifts.
- Police Accountability and Community Building
- A deep dive into police encounters, highlighted by a masterclass example from auditor James Freeman on asserting rights during detainment.
- Critiques of systemic issues in law enforcement, including civil asset forfeiture and abuse of power.
- Emphasis on building local communities aligned with shared values, with mentions of upcoming meetups and events like the Third Eye Carnival.
- Cryptocurrency and Economic Systems
- Skepticism about Bitcoin and government involvement in crypto, framed as a wealth transfer tool rather than a stable currency.
- Analogies to lotteries targeting the poor.
- Humor and Lighthearted Segments
- Playful banter about Lent, Mardi Gras, and absurd hypotheticals (e.g., giving up "being a bitch").
- Jokes about OnlyFans, Ricolas as dowry, and quirky personal anecdotes.
- Guest No-Show: F. Gardner backs out last minute, sparking jokes about "cowardice" and debate culture.
- WWE and Politics: Comparisons between wrestling theatrics and political leadership (e.g., Zelensky, Trump).
- Police Audit Breakdown: Analysis of James Freeman’s viral video confronting police over unlawful detainment.
- Cultural Callbacks: References to Brave New World, 1984, and Demolition Man to critique modern societal trends.
The episode balances humor, sarcasm, and serious critique, with a focus on free speech, individual rights, and community resilience. The hosts’ chemistry shines through playful roasting and shared ideological perspectives.
Final Thoughts:
The discussion is a mix of current events, philosophical debates, and cultural commentary, all delivered with a blend of wit and blunt honesty. The hosts advocate for critical thinking, self-reliance, and rejecting manipulative systems—whether political, economic, or social.
Key Themes: Debate culture, gender dynamics, economic policy, police reform, community building, and nostalgic pop culture.
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Hey. It's Tuesday.
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It is Tuesday. It's near Lent. What do you guys propose I give up?
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Your titties for those Mardi Gras beads.
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Yeah. Microplastics. Yeah. Those out. That's a good option. Do we have other ideas of things people can give up?
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Being a bitch? Not necessarily you. You don't need to. You're you're not.
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But there I'll I'll give up being a bitch. There there are It means I could hang out with you guys on Tuesday nights.
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Definitely people that need to give up being a bitch. Yeah. As as brother bloodbath would say,
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is there a difference between a lowercase b and an upper class, upper case b? I'm saying is a white dude that's pretending to be a Buddhist already has that written on his forehead.
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Yeah.
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Maybe.
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Like, it's it's already there. You just needed to activate your superpower.
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We were supposed to to have a conversation, an actual conversation this evening. Not not even necessarily like, you know, bloodsport debate or anything like that with, with F Gardner. And, clearly
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I think we found that we had a lot in common, the three of us and and our, possible guest. So we were planning to lean into the deliberation phase of figuring out the details of what the new stories are and the conspiracies are and where those tunnels ultimately lead to as he is an author who was published about tunnels before they were headline news stories. So clearly, he's got his his, he's tapped into the the current of of something, and that's very interesting to have that perspective.
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Yeah. Yeah. No. Wait. I like it. I'd you know? I didn't plan on throwing elbows or anything like that, really. But, yeah, he he couldn't get an actual read on Balderson, so he backed out at fucking 03:00 this morning.
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Yeah. You know, I've heard I give off the asshole vibe. I I have heard You're an asshole.
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You're that's why. Oh,
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that makes sense why I give off that vibe.
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So am I. I've been told that I can be brusque. You know?
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Is this what a New York Times author is going to create this sort of compass of, like, you know, assholeery versus ass kissery sort of a paradigm and a political compass thing. I think that's a false binary.
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I I really do.
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Did you see the New York Times, little chart that they're putting together in terms of, you know, political decisions made by political leaders and the priority that they would be placed in. And and people are getting real upset about that thinking that the politics were a game.
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I don't know how you would even wade your way past all the the Zelensky propaganda at this point.
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All of the freaking WWE shit where you had a professional actor and comedian sitting in a room with a reality TV star and actor and WWE Hall of Famer sitting in the room with a military journalist whose only job it is to spin, who's also Peter Thiel's golf glove. Yeah. That was totally real. Totally fucking real. Swear disease, everybody.
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Swear disease. So we'll be spoiling all the WWE events that happened this weekend tonight. If you haven't seen that, you know, that's that's too bad. In a social media spoils it as it happens, so we all know that, a guy turned heel. The Rock was still cooking, and John Cena was still wearing jorts. And together, they decided that they were going to go New World Order, Hollywood, Hulk Hogan style, and turn heel against some baby faced slick back guy.
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Are you talking about Koki Smurf?
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I'm talking about what I saw in elimination chamber this weekend in WWE.
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Yeah.
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Well, John Cena with ten months left on his contract,
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I
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I am, son. Sit down. Go take a lap, then go fucking sit down. I I think he's talking about, f Gardner. No. I'm fucking around. I know. I any word's been around forever, dude. I I love that guy.
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Ah. I'm fucking Well, then I'm the asshole. Like, we already knew.
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Pink hands.
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So on on on the other news Wait. Wait. We finally got we finally got a real we'll go ahead with your quickly.
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Yeah. Quickly. Let let me do this to kind of underscore a point that, you know, for all the people that refuse to square up and and have an actual conversation.
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Hey. Look. I had emotions since you met me, because so, you know, I had no problem keeping it moving. So you can move with me, move I don't wanna move around. But either way it go, I'm a keep it moving, because. And And that's on Jesus the mob by following new Christ, by where his mama Anna Mae Maglin. Oh, yeah. Be a blessing and not a Good morning.
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The ending was great. I love this dude. I really do. That's Tommy Dangerfield. He's out of Houston. If anybody's in the the Houston area, wants to go see a comedy show, go pull up for that. He's fantastic. If anybody's in the Bay Area near San Jose, March Twenty Third, we're doing an AM wake up meetup at the Ryan Long comedy show, and that's gonna be, a lot of fun. So pull up, support comedy, come hang out, come kick it.
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So on the not cowardly front, Jim Bob has agreed to debate next week, and, it's gonna be he said he's bringing a friend, so it's gonna be a two on two. Full on, elbows out. No no pads. Sup, Dingo?
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Hey, Dingo. Yeah. That'll be fun. What what are we talking about with Jim Bob?
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Well, I threw out there obviously, I'm an old, and he's a orthodox. So we, could go with that on the, you know, which one sits where in society. I said I've got an issue with where you guys I got an issue with the way you guys view logic. And I also offered up the trinity if he wants to try and wade his way into that and get completely slaughtered. I can't imagine that one's gonna be a popular one. I I certainly would not debate debate the trinity with an alchemist, but but then again, that one's me. So calm down.
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Well, it to that point, like, do you view the trinity as the transmutation?
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See, they're they're they're they're well, no. Can I discuss all of this? Free answers. Do we need to do this on the air? Or is it see the the test the results. What I would what I would like to do no. I don't wanna do that on the air because he's gonna be if he he's gonna be watching this episode most likely. Just like I'm watching his stuff. You know? You're you're super silly if you freaking like, a bunch of people were crying about that, Zach Hubbard, and they're like, he got ambushed. Like, you knew the debate was coming, and you didn't check out your opponent. That seems just dumb.
I don't know what to tell you.
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Who is Zarebath? I don't know any of these Zarelath. I don't I don't know any of these people. I don't. Zarebath?
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Are we gonna talk about? Zero bath. I do not believe I do not believe we would get Zeralaf in to face me. One of the things that I have very much just discovered as watching the debates. The debates are very much a battle of will, and, the information is secondary in my opinion. And you because you see guys, the guys that are real strong will run over people with bad information. Like, they'll even know they're caught, and they'll still run a dude over with it. They'll just go through with it. And Zaire last already tried to have it out with me once, and it didn't go well at all. Okay.
He he was he was he was, and I like the guy. Don't get me wrong. He's an alright guy, but the guy, he lives in his grandma's basement. He's got, like, a he's got, like, a a high school kid's job even though he's, like, 40. And then he was on he was on the show crying around about when you know, he he does women don't wanna do the traditional woman role. And I was like, dude, you gotta be the man before you get some woman to come do that kind of thing for you. What are you fucking talking about, man? Like, I'm not I'm not uncool with the dude, but like he spent one day showing us all his Japan animation cartoons that he collects and shit like that. I mean, I'm sure some traditional wife was like, oh, make me make a meatloaf for you. I see you have Akira. Yeah. No. Like, fucking get the fuck out of here, man. Go out and get a real job.
Get a real home. Guess what? Some girl's gonna wanna come in and make you a meatloaf and wash your dishes.
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He did describe himself to us over a series of Saturday nights, and we did really get to know him. He specifically requested that we treated him like an equal, take the kid gloves off, and tell him how it really is. And when we did that, it was too much. Too much. It was too much. Right. Hard.
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There are there are quality women wherever you are. You just have to be a quality man.
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%. If you are not worthy, they are not coming. Right? Like, for especially for women, like, when you're asking a woman to put their selves in that position, like like my wife is, my wife does not earn any money. She hasn't been worked in her field in years. She has no way to support herself. So there has to be an implicit trust that I can do my husbandry job, that I will keep providing, that I will do all the things necessary that so she does not have to do them. And then because she doesn't do those things, she does other things that take care of me. Mhmm. So I'm not sure what to tell you, bro. Like, if if you aren't doing that part that she can trust, she's not gonna do that part because she doesn't have that's the whole thing. The more manly you are and the more you act like a man, the more a woman is free to act like a woman. Because now all of a sudden, she's in this nice safe space and she can do whatever she wants, And she can do all those really awesome things that are enjoyable because she's safe to do that. Well and it's a giant fucking leap of faith on her part.
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Yep. In order to, like, give up, you know, what's been the the basis of her survival in order to trust you to become the basis of her survival. And if you don't follow through, you're probably not gonna keep that woman, and you're probably not going to get anyone who's of actual quality at that point. Like, you're not gonna get a wife. You might get a bitch, but you won't get a wife.
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Hundred percent. Hundred percent. And yeah. No. The dude's definitely not gonna debate. He actually made whining whining videos about me chewing them out, whole bunch of them. Like That's funny. And I just, yeah, people are sending it to me. I just ignored it, but the dude made cry. He was calling me, bet he was calling me Benjamin Loki, son, and all this other shit. You know? And I was just like, whatever, dude. Like, same as I'm not gonna get too offended that fucking, F. Gardner doesn't like me that much. His books that he has written off fucking chat GPT on a show that Marcus and I do called Weaving Spiders.
Jim, the host of that show, he, one night read that book because we do sometimes do readings And Purchased a physical copy of the book. Purchased a physical copy, and it was basically, a second grade reading level book somewhere around doctor Seuss. There there was a monster in the book. It was a dreidel monster, and the description of it was it was very dreidel like. There are a lot of second grade readers, and they need interesting books.
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So that's on a slide against any second grader who really wants to read. We encourage second graders to read books. Third graders
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I also want to presume that a a a second grader would have already figured out that a dreidel monster was very dreidel like. Right? Like, you know artistic decision. That's fine. You would like a fire monster and have it not be fiery. I'm just saying, you know, like, you didn't need that second secondary description after you made the the name very
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learners, Ben. You gotta lay it all out there for us. I found it to be refreshing,
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entertaining, funny, self aware, all these great things that a a modern goosebumps book should be.
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Yeah. Yeah. I I I agree with that assessment wholeheartedly. I do. And and let's not take away from the fact that that there was some, like, heavy prediction on the tunnel dues.
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Like, he got a lot of things right in there. He he really did. I I could be a level or not. He he got a lot of things right. Dude. I I came to, you know, at least have some appreciation for him, which is why I thought we could do tonight, but then he chicken shaded out, and I don't even know why because I wasn't there was no aggression. And, yeah, I appreciate some of his stances. So I I can have a decent conversation with the guy. That's not a problem.
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Yeah. And if you're watching right now, f Gardner, like, there's no reason to to not just hop in. There really isn't. Like, nobody's actually gonna punch you in the throat and then steal your wallet and run away. That's not who we are.
[00:17:02] Unknown:
We're just old school dudes. We freaking should really change the name to behind the woodshed because that's where you make friends. You go behind the woodshed, you slug it out for a minute, and you come back out friends. That's where you go to make friends. Man. Dudes
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do. I kept trying to explain that to the people on the union of the unwanted, and they're like, you're being a bully. Mhmm. You're hogging time. No, dude. You're challenging everything that I stand for and deliberately misinterpreting it to argue around it instead of addressing the point. So now we have to address the point.
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Are you not allowed to celebrate anything? Is that a strange religious quirk that you have where you can't celebrate birthdays or victories
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or concessions at the I don't like it all as witness.
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I I just want it to be real. I don't wanna celebrate fake wins. I don't wanna celebrate marketing. I come from the church of Bill Hicks, motherfucker. We don't like marketing and advertising. We don't.
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My Sheree, who do you make hilarious clips of? Because if it's hilarious of us, please send them to us, and we will Oh, yeah. Please make hilarious clips of us. Do that. Do that. Please. Yeah. She's great. I'm lonely, lonely as a soul. Anybody that wants to help with clips, there's one I wanna do that I that was great where, after the debate where Flo was fighting was came in. Flow show in like half an hour or something like that into Flow show. Flow Flow finally caught that the trees and the plants up here require fire to procreate. He's like, hold on. They need the fire? He's like, oh, I changed my mind then.
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Oh, that was that was, after we discussed using salt water to put out fires. Okay.
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Alright.
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We, yeah, we actually did sway that, dude. Is there any new science on the use of salt on, soil and,
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with the I was watching a fascinating video today that said that one of the ways to find where a old river was that is gold bearing because that's a heavy where if it's gold bearing, it's also heavy in mineral, is you look for the short trees. So the because of the minerals, all the extra salts that the live the dried up river leaves behind, it stunts all those trees. So if you look from the top, you can find a line side, of shorter trees and forests, and that's where an old riverbed sat if the if it's in a mineral heavy gold area, and it's the salts in there that's stunting those trees even today.
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Do we call them dwarven trees?
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Yeah. I remember the ones with the gold, and the dwarves go in there and dig in the mountain and make the gold.
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Cut them open. If you try to cut into them, it breaks your chain because there's mithril running through the middle of it.
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I hate it when that happens. You spend all that time all that time sharpening a chain.
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Ugh. You're you're you're you're
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Was there any talk of elves
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to make that.
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Right? I don't. I don't have elves on fucking speed dial for the kind of, you know, chain that's gonna cut through the mithril tree. I don't. I don't. So fans of Ferngully were discussing this week on social media the possibility of deforestation
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in state parks or national reserves or something to that effect. I don't really know what the origin of the story was. I caught the end part where they're talking about, you know, putting sugar in engines and using glue in, key locks for for a large machinery and these types of things. And there was a back and forth where people were suggesting that that's, against certain laws and that they would be reported and that they shouldn't do it. And then people were saying, well, the ends justify the means, and we have to save the the forest at all costs back and forth and back and forth. So I think that would be even interesting to debate to have.
Or some forest is more equal than other forests. Can we get an eco
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warrior? Could we do that? Because, I mean, dude, I'm
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I'm I don't know. We should have you invite them on, though. You're you're good at it. You know? Fuck.
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Just because everybody I invite on realizes that they're gonna get flattened and then backs out at the last minute, doesn't mean that I have a yeah. I I'm I have a % success rate nearly booking people on my other shows. It's just on this one where they know they're going to have to, like, argue with me and argue with you. Russia is not gonna
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decide. Wanna get you alone. They wanna wine and dine you. They wanna hug and snuggle you. They wanna kiss up to you.
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Oh, fuck.
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But then you tell them it's a group date or it's an event and other friends are invited as well. They're like, no.
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No way. Oh, baby. I saw I saw who you said, three. I it's okay that you removed it. I saw who you said. That's hilarious. I would I would like to enjoy the clips at some point, but I understand there's no reason to hurt feelings and shit. That's but if anybody wants to make funny clips of us, please do and send them to us. Do that. We we will repost them. Most of the of August.
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Yeah. Big big shout out to, to Jason in the chat there, man. Love that dude. He's fucking rad.
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A dingo ate my babies on rumble chatting. We see that.
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He's great.
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I still have a I've I've been good to him for a nice chat. It's hard to hit the go live button until now, but I still have a Rockfin channel, for some reason. Well, I know why. But
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Because you're got so much money flowing through your channel.
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To the Rockfin listeners who missed the first twenty three minutes where we just express our undying love for the Rockman platform. Yeah. Thought it would just be too much to to put that on the Rockman platform. Jeremy.
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Hey, Karen. Hi, Karen. We all miss Karen.
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Yeah. The rumble chat is spicy. It it is, especially during AM wake up and, Saturday night anarchy. The yeah.
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It, it night, Bill. I guess it's not terrible.
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It's not terrible to have us open on all the platforms that we're streaming to on all of your devices. That's alright. 20 threes, 20 threes.
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I hope you guys are still holding it down there in Northern Arizona and shit like that, man. Out in the desert. I hope it's doing well.
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Keep them coyotes off your chickens.
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Yep. I haven't talked to Jason in a couple of years. Call me, dude. I have the same number. Call me.
[00:25:04] Unknown:
I I haven't seen him since, he moved to Arizona. Right? It's not the birthplace in Denver. I may have seen him in Denver if you We stopped by his house once by herself. Yeah. Well, I remember that too, but I I remember it with Steve. No. We went with Steve.
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So did you guys go on strike and not buy anything from Target?
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My my fiance is Mexican. We go to Target, like, twice a week.
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It's, like, required. Except for the one day where we all agreed we wouldn't shop at Target? Oh, I didn't I don't even know what you're talking about.
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I did not know that that was a thing.
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We don't have to get where
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I'm from to have the pattern recognition of.
[00:25:55] Unknown:
Target's, local Minnesota company. So maybe I got hit with the Target propaganda a little more than than you guys did. Target and Best Buy and three AM are all Minnesota companies, and they expect Minnesotans to not shop at stores that employ family members and extended family members. Kind of a head scratcher.
[00:26:19] Unknown:
Yeah. That was just that Robert Reich. Like So don't shop anywhere? Yeah. There was a whole day because they're they're you know, you know how Robert Reich is. He he does this, like, every three or four years. He's like, listen. I'm a fucking midget. I'm really bad at economics, but I want people to do stuff. So I'm gonna say some liberal shit, and, it's not gonna make any real sense, but let's do it.
[00:26:48] Unknown:
It could be. It's like, the Walmart the what is it? The high cost of low prices or something. Was that, like, a 2 thousands documentary
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exposing the the practices of Walmart stores? Well, see, now we're gonna have to get into tariffs if we're gonna argue that kind of thing because tariffs is the whole damn they shut down in '19 in the nineties when Clinton freaking, passed NAFTA, which was a nightmare for us, and Pro told us it was gonna be a nightmare for us. When they passed that and opened up the trade trade, instead of opening up trade, the companies that were here realized that they can just move their companies there, pay their workers 25¢ an hour, and send the product back here, making it for a fraction of the price and still charge the same. And, actually, they could even lower the amount and still make just a shit ton.
And so if, yes, the tariffs are gonna raise the price on things. That's a fact. But the other fact is is then we start buying American made things again and having American jobs again, and we actually start having money. Currently, all of our money has left and and went away.
[00:28:03] Unknown:
That that only works though if you revitalize American manufacturing. And so far, the only revitalization in American manufacturing has been for, like, defense contractor stuff, and maybe Tesla.
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Well So that all goes right back into Elon's pocket. To be fair, and I'm an anti war guy. But to be fair, if you're gonna try and the only manufacturing left in America is military. And if you're gonna try and beef up manufacturing, that's gonna gonna be the first place and easiest place to do so. That that is fair.
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I mean, you you would think that you could go with automobiles or
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textile. Well, you would have to you would have to build the infrastructure to handle it, though. This isn't a short term plan. I mean and I'm not saying he's, like, fucking some savior or this is his plan. But in reality, tariffs, the way it would have to work is we would have to, once again, put the infrastructure in place. We would wanna start making American steel again with American steel, making American products again, all those kind of things. And we've got an absolutely failing infrastructure, all those For sure. And then and then the other thing we would have to do is deregulate.
The regulations that they put in place all those years ago have basically stopped any kind of manufacturing. And I do understand why they aren't lying when they say that a lot of these places are real hard on the, environment. You look over at Hong Kong where a lot of in places like that where all these industries went and they can't they have to walk around in masks all year long because the air is so horrible outside, but they all got fucking manufacturing jobs. We need to find some happy middle ground somewhere. Like, we can't go that you know, now they have all the jobs and we have nothing.
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Like, that doesn't make sense. No. I I get that. But if you don't, so the the tariffs aren't, it's like it's like double taxation, on our end. So if you don't offset the tariffs with a significant reduction in actual taxes, then it's the consumer that pays out
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through the fucking network. Is being talked about at the same time. The Yeah. Or the IRS. So that is being talked about in conjunction. I'm not saying he's gonna do it, but both those pieces are being put forward at the same time.
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There's a guy by name of Ford over in Ontario who, I guess, provides electricity to Minnesota, Michigan, and New York decided, to say that he turned power off to Americans. He's the guy who, has, like, a poker chip wager to say, you know, I'll call your bluff. It's at Doug Ford in Ontario. Okay.
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Yeah. And, thus far, the Trump administration has been like, hey. Isn't your brother the crackhead that got busted with hookers? And, aren't you guys some fucking giant Kentucky fried chicken eating motherfuckers? How about you go kick rocks? See, I'm confused, though. Is he that is he that mayor that got busted with cocaine and all that? Rob Ford, and Doug Ford is okay.
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Yeah.
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So so what is a border if electricity can travel over it?
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Well, a border is an arbitrary line drawn, you know, by people who conquered other people in order to denote the territory that they stole and or claimed or won. However you wanna look at it.
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Or traded for.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. And all, like, The United States wasn't entirely conquered. The Louisiana purchase and things like that were vast swaths of lands. Now I'm not saying people weren't conquered at some point in time in order to do something, but we purchased it. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, there were already people living there, so we bought their land too and then decided to tell them by shooting bullets at them.
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But, I mean, that's kind of the way that, like, the world works. It is. Life ain't fair and the world's mean.
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It it's just the way it's always fucking been. It's funny because liberals like to pick certain points in history and be like, look. This is these peoples. And it's like you they're no matter who it is, you can find somebody before that even for America, this, like, a bunch of native tribes have fucking stories of killing red headed giants and driving them off and taking their land. Like Yep. It's it's their stories, not mine. Be mad about it. You know? And I'm sure the red headed giants pick kicked somebody else's ass. I don't know. A cyclops or something. I don't know. Farm subsidies is an interesting one. I don't think that I I would like to have that debate. I I like that. I I would I don't know who I would find to do it that because I don't think most people have any understanding of farm subsidies.
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We were talking about that on the show this morning.
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So what is your what is your take on farm subsidies?
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What do the farms subsidize?
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At this point, farm subsidies subsidized, disposal and waste. They they in no way, shape, or form subsidized growth, production, or distribution. And that that was where the story that we were doing, is that because of the avian flu, there are farmers who are getting incentivized and subsidized to call herds rather than, revamp the model of animal husbandry that they're engaged in, move to a model that is less disease prone in the first place. Not that they can even really prove that a chicken gets the flu, you know, because they're being administered the same,
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you know, PCR test that that everybody else already been admitted doesn't work. Absolutely. Absolutely.
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Like the but the incentivization goes to limiting supply rather than increasing supply. The incentivization is on the side of less production instead of more, sustainable and profitable methods or regenerative methods. And, just just seventy years ago, you know, there were hundreds and hundreds of local producer. Texas Slim talks about this all the time, man, where, you know, he grew up in cattle country, and there was a local processing center slaughterhouse, you know, in every single county in Texas, and now there's three for the entire state.
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Yeah. We just lost ours up here.
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Our butchers closing? Ago.
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But on the same token, and here's that's a that's a whole another subject. Like like, while I a % agree that there those kind of things are needed and the industry collapses, you couldn't pay me to put a fucking, fucking slaughter plant in my in my town. You couldn't fucking pay me. Like, there's no such thing as a slaughter plant moves to your town. It's a dead town. Like, your town is now gonna be overrun with all the worst people. Everybody's gonna be dead eyed. It's definitely gonna be freaking on fentanyl, the whole town. Yeah. Like, it it's just how it goes. Like so I mean, while I but but, as far as the subsidies go, so the subsidies are have always been designed to do that.
What the what the subsidies were designed to do as a farmer is take in it's it's only big egg that is the ones calling their herds. And this is where these subsidies are supposed to work. So then big egg calls their herds, and now small egg has the chance to keep up in the market. And it's supposed to support that kind of thing. So that way small ag can stay active while big ag can take these kind of hits. His way the way the subsidies were originally supposed to work. And it's always been where if if the demand is too low and the, stock is too high and I don't care whether it's milk or wheat or what it is, they'll pay them big farmers to dump their shit. Yeah. Now now now I'm just getting angry. That lowers that lowers the the the supply.
And now the guys that are small, their stuff is worth something again. It's the way the mechanics of it is supposed to work.
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Angry, and I just think that isn't laissez faire to anybody. It's like all all these subsidies are, you know, problems upon problems upon problems and layers layers of complexity that over time require greater complexities to cover for the deficiencies and other complexities. So when you have a leader who just tries to shut it all off at the same time to create a little bit of, chaos and a little bit of a scramble, and then maybe that encourages a little bit of ingenuity amongst people to figure things out. It's like ripping the Band Aid all off and just ripping it off quickly.
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Well, the thing is is, a lot of these programs where they started out, and as I said, that's what it was the way it was supposed to work. All these rich people have figured out the little legal loopholes and bullshits and how to grease the proper pockets. And all these programs have now just turned into slush funds. And and there's so fucking many of them. And the the amount like, if you take the idea of your basic person that's, like, got, like, 53 different subscription services, that's that's, like, basically America times at 10,000. Yeah. Plus and Hulu and HBO Max. Yeah. They've got all the subscription services. And depending on which president, they they have cert each president has pet projects.
Well, the next one doesn't necessarily go in and stop those things. So that funding just keeps rolling and rolling and
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Until it stops with the buck and social security, People again are talking about the fact that they never expected that they'd see any social security when they were of age to claim it. Other people were putting forth figures to say, well, you were the fool So so so I gotta ask, Dingo,
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what small farmer is having? I'm a small farmer with a shit ton of birds. I was tempted to go out and make a little video of me doing like a dance. Like, oh, I'm a rich boy. Look. I got eggs. That's walking to the basement. Eggs upon eggs out there. Nobody's coming to my fucking house and telling me I can't I gotta We also haven't registered as a a small egg for you. What small farm does?
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A lot of them have to, especially if you wanna go to a farmer's market and shit like that. Like, you actually have to
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sign paperwork and shit. Is there an egg seller's license that people are having to register?
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Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know. I know.
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I know. I got no mercy for you. Once you're trying to play their game, guess what? You have to play by their rules.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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That's how that goes. We know this.
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Yeah. So So but but to Dingo's point, he is correct because there there have even been, people with backyard chickens whose neighbors snitched on them and shit like that who had to go subject the chickens to the PCR test and stuff like that. And they were like, oh, your bird might have the sniffles. We need to kill all of them.
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Wait. Dude, this is I like how in the reporting, they're they're they're talking about how, how deadly this is. And I'm like, yeah. If you call the birds, it's deadly every time.
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Hundred and forty million in the last year.
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Yeah. You call and and now they're talking about it with cows. Mhmm. Like, they're and they're like, this is especially deadly with cows. Yeah. If you call them, it's 100% deadly all the time. That's that's how that works when you call things. Like, I understand the PETA people don't get that either. They're like, we rescued animals. Where are they? We killed them all. What's the even holo de mort. From you, people? Are we gonna write about this in the history books? The the mass slaughter of animals
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when people are starving?
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If these dumb fuckers are stupid enough to let this shit go on, I don't know what to tell them. If people didn't know Trump was a con artist in that fucking that the Democrats and the Republicans are on the same team, it just depends on which platter of shit they wanna serve you. Do they wanna fucking push fucking do they what do they wanna push down your throat? Because certain things we will buck on depending on who's in charge, and they're very aware of that. They're very aware right now. They can get away with fucking giving every dollar that we supposedly save to Israel and fucking talking about wiping out, you know, blah blah because the Republicans are in charge. They they know that you flip it over and you go to the damn site, and all of a sudden you could do things like push universal health care. And rather than get universal health care, we suddenly get Obamacare, which has no rate everybody over and just run everything through the coals. So
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So it's like a hundred dollars to pull out a tooth, but a thousand dollars to try to repair the tooth. And then you pay the hundred dollars to get your tooth pulled out, and they recognize that, you know, your smile isn't what it used to be. So now you're gonna pay even more to go for some some glamour shots to get your, DaVinci veneers or what are they called? Bridges? Some
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I have never had glamour shots, Marcus.
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Okay. Well, we're gonna need those.
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And and, you know, I don't Headshots. I don't know why analog lime is saying Trump is a con artist. I mean, Trump is, an absolute athlete,
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you guys. You know what? That's what I think. The reason Donald Trump's not coming out here because, well, he knows I have the, the grapefruits to give him a patented mister McMahon billionaire. Big slap.
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Just get out of here. Money. Money. Scott's a billionaire. Wait a second here.
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Not so fast there, mister McMahon.
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You really should stop playing this, Steve. Yeah. We are gonna get dinged. You gotta stop. What? What? It's still there. It's gotta be under fifteen seconds. Mister Trump. WWF is real touchy about their shit. We've got numerous spider episodes fucking full. Pretty sweet girl, Josh Tina.
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Yeah. It's like there there's
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on YouTube. I yeah. No. I I can I can play the, like, four and a half minute clips of this shit on every other platform? There are certain lawyers that have
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supernatural powers that just have a, extrasensory perception of of their clients' material being shared in ways that they just cannot control.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. They don't like it. The WWF is super sensitive for his for a bunch of big muscly dudes. They are extra sensitive about such things. Marcus shared their commercial, which you would think, you know, it's a commercial. That should be something they want shared everywhere. He would've shared a Twitter a Twitter stream, and it it was a video that automatically
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played because it was on Twitter.
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Yeah. And we got dinged to work. Timeline. Wait. So it's it fifteen seconds is the Fifteen under fifteen seconds. It takes him fifteen seconds to recognize it and strike you on it.
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Hey, Vince. Okay. You listen to me, Vince.
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Hey. Look at
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this.
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Okay. So do you think This is,
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this is nine seconds.
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So Do you think t rump learned about blading from his time in the ring?
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Hang on. This is nine seconds. Okay. Where the this is the guy. Yeah. Hey. Look at this. Oh, yeah.
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That one.
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Oh my god. Look at that. Still take over. I'm going to Trump. Oh, wow.
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That
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Russian's got Putin riding right bareback, and we look at this. They don't they don't touch the they don't man kiss that other man right on the lips. Wow.
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Did you see that? It is identical to a MAGA rally. You even got Hulk Hogan ripping his shirt off on stage at the RNC this the last year. What's you gonna do, brother?
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Wasn't Alex Jones just imitating that too?
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Oh, that was freaking insane. We played that on the show, and I it's almost like you want, like, you you it's almost like you wanted Macho Man to come out and defend Kamala Harris. You know? Oops. Yeah. You know what? The American public needs? Yeah. They need a half Indian, half black noncitizen to run the country again. Yeah. Dan Soder does the best macho man I've heard in my life, but Jake the Snake Roberts is a very close second. If you've ever heard Jake the Snake do macho man, it's freaking
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dumb. Why do they call him the snake? Because he had a snake.
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Yeah. Bullock instructor used to carry with him and cobra.
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He had a cobra for a bit too. Okay.
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Now he'd chuck it on you if you were especially unlucky.
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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In fact, let's see. Was there a Sheik in the ring at some point too? The Iron Sheik, dude. He was hilarious. He had the most hilarious Twitter account. All he would do was just troll people. And he
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clown the fuck out of him, dude. That was funny as shit. Dude, that's from the days when wrestlers didn't have to be like beasts. Like, the Iron Sheik is smaller than my dad. Like, we've met him in person. You know, he was eight that from the AWA days, and Iron Sheik is not at he's not a big dude. He's not muscular. He just wore a tur he just wore a fucking headpiece and was a little dark skinned. You know? That's it. And, like like, the I like, the one of my favorites, the Baron Von Raskey from that from that era. They called him the claw. He's the claw people in their temples. Again, he was just a he was just a substitute school teacher in Minnesota.
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So again, you know, if you're an author and you write books that appeal to, world wrestling audience, that's totally fine. This is entertainment for the entire family, and there's nothing wrong with reaching the greatest amount of, readers and and viewers as possible. And then to participate in the ring that you create, that's part of that that's part of the entertainment complex that we all have to contend with.
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Here.
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We're gonna teach you a little business first. What? About this. Yeah. Yes. You've been I'm like, dude, are you fucking Jake, I'm just telling you this. He has to blame you. Now Wow. Woah. Like, what? He goes, get that. We gotta go at it right now. Me and you. He's up on my fucking face to this dish. I'm like, fuck, man. What the fuck is wrong with you? We gotta teach you a little business first.
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Right. Since we're here, I gotta I gotta do this too because Soder, nails it. Yeah.
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Oh, did you cook meat for me? Like, I'm a fancy Larry did. Oh, Mary. Larry. But, yeah, because you didn't like it, raw. You wanted Oh oh. Yeah. There you have it. It's really rocking the hip hop world. That's bad news. But now we're up to four, potential victims. I watched the guy interviewed. The guy who said it happened Yeah. The the I didn't know he was what was his name was something savage.
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Savage, Ron's little savage. Randy Savage. And and, he's very believable when you watch him. I mean Oh, you better watch out. I'm gonna molest you. Africa being by. You're all excited. Nation touching my winner when I'm a little boy. Yeah. Really got into it. I started thrusting into his head. Yeah.
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Came on in the gray hooded sweatshirt? That's his voice?
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There you were watching. Uh-huh. My wife's meat cooked is delicious.
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Damn it. Savage. Him, macho man made a savage eating a steak describing a rape. That's maybe a fucking mistake. Yeah. It's man on boy.
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Yeah. Very disturbing. Oh, I love love my steak cooked medium rare. I have nothing I like more than having a nice piece of cud cooked meat talking about man on boy. Yeah. It's the most purest of love. Very Spartan sexual relationship. Yeah. An older man cared for a younger boy. Very big in Greek mythology. They would fuck up so you'd be comfortable blowing the war.
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They called it the sacred
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mentality. Yeah. It would form a failings. Yeah. Little boys in the front and the men in the back. Yeah.
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Played a little
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harder. A lot going on. Yeah. How's that steak there? Good. Fuck. You're like a detective? Woo. Heat. K.
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Ah, Sodor.
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I'm not It's great when you can make I'm not a fiddler on the roof guy. I'm more of a sound of music guy. Yeah. Yeah. You know, raindrops on roses.
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You know? We could give up musicals for Lent. That'd be okay.
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She was sexy.
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Julie Andrews?
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Oh, yeah. That's awesome. Yeah.
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That's the good stuff. It did. Lisa was pretty hot
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From the the Von Trapp family? Yeah. So we had Hogan's Heroes, and we had MASH, and now it's been forty years since we've had a really good television sitcom taking place in a a war. Are we gonna get a what was that conflict in 1991? Are we gonna get a sitcom based on that? Desert Storm? Yeah. Are we gonna get a Desert Storm sitcom? It wasn't that funny.
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It I was there. I served during Desert Storm. It wasn't that funny. Yeah. The Bosnia and Serbia wasn't funny at all. We had Black Hawk Town.
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When when did the war first get really serious?
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Vietnam.
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Okay.
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Like, as far as, like, putting it on camera Mhmm. And showing people what it was and what it did. Yeah. It took twenty years before there was or fifteen years before there was, like, a Vietnam movie, and it was, like, platoon.
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And fucking the killing fields and shit like that. You know? Okay. Yeah. We all created our I mean, you did get to see Willem Dafoe and, Charlie Sheen smoking opium. I mean, they're just some hashish. I mean, you're always that
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Apocalypse Now?
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Mhmm. Okay. But but no fun family sitcoms?
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No. Not so much. Not so much. Yeah. And Nash was Korea.
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Okay. Is is that where Call of Duty video games took over?
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I I think it it transition well, they kept doing war movies because you had, like, Saving Private Ryan and shit like that. Mhmm.
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Hurt Locker. Band of Brothers.
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Yeah. Well, Band of Brothers is just
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over the top propaganda. That's where they formed the phalanx. Right. Propaganda. The lunatic phalanx. The men in the back.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. So I take it none of us watch the Oscars?
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No. I did see the clip of Conan O'Brien saying we're halfway through it, so that means Kendrick Lamar needs to come out and call Drake a pedophile. And that was pretty funny. It was a high end. That's that's the only clip I saw.
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Adam Sandler wore kind of a a blue colored sweatshirt and some and he went up to some guy wearing, like, a yellow colored, golden colored, and together the gold and the blue represented a certain flag of a country. I kinda made a humorous joke about that. Okay. I think that was maybe a reference to Fetterman or some other politician not wearing
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proper attire to talk to other politicians. Sandler dresses like a bum every day, though. Like, that's his whole fucking thing.
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Oh. He's he knows that. I also sang chim chimney when I'm cleaning out the chimney.
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As you should. As I should. Yeah. As you should. In the Dick Van Dyke Cockney accent? Yeah. Yeah. As best I can. Oh, sweet place as Loki as Loki can be.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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That's all the words I know. Otherwise, I keep going. I'm sorry. Jim chimney. Jim chimney. Jim chim jury. Oh, when you're with us, sleep, sweep your ring like company.
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Yeah.
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Alright. Yeah. I do remember that bit. It's a good cultural exchange. Little Mary from fucking Killing Fields to Mary Poppins.
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Mhmm.
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And who says we're not diverse on this show? Exactly. Dude, I I frequently get called, racist and misogynist because I look like me, and we talk about things that piss people off on the show. And I'm like, dude, I have three black cohosts. Two of those black cohosts are women fucking Mhmm. I have another female cohost on top of that. I'd fucking, like, I've platform women and I'd I'd do a show with a fucking actual Mexican gangster. Like,
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we we we watched Undercover Brother together that one time, all of us. We did. We all watched Undercover Brother together, and it was fantastic.
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It was great. I'd do it again. We're gonna watch Sorry to Bother You. No. That's it. Mockers. We're in the
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amazingly stupid timeline, and and Steve's always said, I already died 09/11, and he's right. Like, we are literally in a timeline where people were were your your shit lives will call somebody a Nazi and then tell you you're a Nazi for not supporting Ukraine. Mhmm.
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That's fucking arming and giving American made munitions to actual fucking Nazis.
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It's their it's their elite guard that surrounds fucking the president, and everybody's like, he's a Jew. Like, yeah. Well, he surrounds himself with Nazis. I don't know what to fucking tell you. It's a weird world. I I wanna tell you, you're supporting Nazis, and and president Biden had to override the the where we do not arm Nazis. And he had to just, like, right before he left office, maybe four or five months, overrode that you Jones Plantation? What is that?
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Oh, Jones Plantation is fucking phenomenal, dude.
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Go watch that movie. It streams on Tubi at no cost to you.
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What is it to be?
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Tubi.
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T u b I t v Com.
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Brian got Netflix, like, six months ago or something. We watch it, like, once a month.
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Dude, watch Jones Plantation. Larkin Rose wrote it.
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Oh. Oh, okay. I know what you're talking about now. I didn't know what the name of it was. I have Treclia
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directed it. Yeah. They're they're both in it. Legal man, the Twitter account, that does US crime review, Lee Gollman. He's one of the stars of it. Dude, it is and I mean, you know, you're gonna get it right off the bat, but it's something that you can show more normie people to be like, this is how it fucking works. You know? And it's it's heavy handed in ways, but it it looks like it could be any sort of antebellum slave movie. And then pretty quickly, you get the idea that, like, oh, no. This is how the government works. This is how all states operate.
Yeah and it is a phenomenal film. They just did another one with Charlie Robinson as the narrator called Barnum World And they debuted the first, like, thirty minutes of it at Anarkapulco the other week, and it should be coming out soon. And I can't wait to see that because they're fucking crushing it on that end.
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So Oscar's only got a couple years left before he's obsolete?
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Yeah. Yeah. Good. Alright. Good. Lord.
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Because that is a giant club that will never be in and to to worship it and and to get emotional by professional emotional manipulators and feeling like you're having a cathartic moment by recognizing all these great people you've seen on television and on big screens over the years, and now they're dead. And we need to just cry over that and come together and celebrate it.
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Yeah. And I would also recommend you go ahead and and, like, go through Jones Plantation and pay him the $10 to buy the movie so you can download it. For everybody listening, like, do that. Get you know, throw Larkin and Drew, a fucking bone because, you know, they really did put out a a killer flick. But, yeah, it is available for free. But you can also, you know, support independent filmmakers, and give them a couple of bucks.
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You can I thought you were I thought you were, anti only fans?
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I'm anti only fans, but I'm anti porn. Steve doesn't have to be the only fan. Mhmm. It takes many fans to to make a movie.
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Right? Mhmm. God damn.
[01:02:20] Unknown:
I mean, you can be a best boy too if you wanna be. Right. There's a position open for you.
[01:02:28] Unknown:
Why don't you, I'm fired. Why am I fired? Was it my singing? You know what? I didn't say it was good, but my cows like it and my dogs like it. So Yeah. Not everything needs to be the max. Cat. Wait. Who fired Ben?
[01:02:51] Unknown:
I've been fired. I think I think there has to be a committee that has to decide that decision. All all decisions are are preferred preferably made through a committee before they're finalized and enacted. Otherwise, you get crazy guys named Ford take taking, the switch to electricity and then putting people out in Oh, stop whining, dog. It's like, do you think you'd really do that? The the coldest, wettest part of the year and you're gonna turn off people's power? That would be And I would need cruel and unusual punishment.
[01:03:26] Unknown:
Oh, Anna fired you for not knowing Jones Plantation.
[01:03:30] Unknown:
Okay. Well I just didn't know the name. I just didn't know the name.
[01:03:35] Unknown:
Yeah. No. It's a it's a great flick, dude. It really is. Like, it's something Christy could show her family, and they would probably get it.
[01:03:48] Unknown:
Probably not. Her brother would enjoy it. Her brother has come her brother has come along a very long ways, and her family likes me now. Gives me kisses on top of my head and stuff when I'm sitting there and boob hugs.
[01:04:07] Unknown:
Boob hugs and boobah?
[01:04:10] Unknown:
Yep. The the bosom hug. The kiss on the top of the head. The mom hug. So I get along with them now. I I don't think they're gonna be jumping on any conspiracies, though.
[01:04:32] Unknown:
It's it's not even conspiratorial. It it really isn't. It's just a very, very well constructed, walk through how the state works, but it's done on a plantation back in in,
[01:04:54] Unknown:
in the slavery days. Yeah. The the least you say about it, the better. Go in blind, put it on, sit down, and watch it from beginning to end, and then and then journal about it. Maybe have some pen and paper ready and some some tissues, whatever you gotta do to get through the thing. Just, you know, write down all your thoughts and feelings. And
[01:05:13] Unknown:
That's good. Chris, you'd probably leave me if I didn't have a job.
[01:05:22] Unknown:
You're a professional podcaster, and you're about to get better shots. And
[01:05:26] Unknown:
shots.
[01:05:28] Unknown:
Bother her all day. Right. Picture on the back of a hardcover book.
[01:05:34] Unknown:
Demanding hot cocos and smelling like poop. Alright. Animal poop. Animal poop. Bird. For some reason.
[01:05:46] Unknown:
My girl knows when I'm mad at her when I don't smack her on the ass when I walk by her.
[01:05:53] Unknown:
I I thought that was just a locker room thing for men.
[01:05:57] Unknown:
No. It applies to relationships
[01:05:59] Unknown:
too. Most definitely. It's a different it's a different It's a different spin. Put as much you don't put the with the when you're doing it to your old lady, it's the you're palming it. Mhmm. You gotta palm it. So it sounds good, but it doesn't. Yeah. The cup. You want it to sound good, but not actually leave a mark. Maybe a little one. For a minute. For a minute. But in the locker room, you want it to have some zing. That's where you give it the that's where you give it the snap.
[01:06:28] Unknown:
Does mister t Rump continue with his locker room shenanigans? I I remember there was a time when people were saying, you know what? That's that's men talk. That's locked from the top. That's acceptable. That's just how men get along and talk to to people. Has has he given that up, or does that continue?
[01:06:45] Unknown:
You know what? I'm not even sure that these younger kids even understand that. When they when they get challenged, they they run. They run. It's just how it is. And, I don't care if you're a professional debater who wears pink and glorifies Miami Vice like some kind of a fucking giant cocksucker or, you know, you're some weirdo in a fucking kimono in a fucking pretending like you live in a penthouse. You're just not willing to fight. Like, you know, and and back in the day, that was the way dudes interacted with each other.
[01:07:24] Unknown:
It's okay to hide behind your stash of Bitcoin. Your strategic reserve. That's alright.
[01:07:34] Unknown:
Mhmm. I I have no strategic reserve of Bitcoin.
[01:07:38] Unknown:
Well, how did you guys feel after we talked about Bitcoin for a little while? Did you feel more confident in in blockchain technology?
[01:07:47] Unknown:
Less confident? Or I think it's probably gonna go up this year, probably. Okay. There's a lot of big people investing in it. A lot of money, and it looks like they're trying to and then when the government talks about having reserves of crypto and all that, Apparently, they're trying to in my opinion, that move all that move does is, attempt to give legit legitimacy to it because we all know that crypto in its current form is basically just a gamble. And maybe you do good, maybe you don't. You know, but either way, you can't walk into a store and go purchase items with it. If he's moving to where the government's holding, the government doesn't play in stock, and people know that. So it may it puts it up as more of a legitimate currency type event, you know, because they're going, oh, we need to hold this currency in reserve.
And so it makes they're trying to force that issue.
[01:08:52] Unknown:
It is interesting that the government and agencies that, you know, took over and have Bitcoin already, they have auctioned some off publicly. And whatever they still have custody of, the situation is they can't sell it all at once. Once you have obtained a a large
[01:09:18] Unknown:
As much as they have, they'd fucking be a pump and dump.
[01:09:21] Unknown:
Correct. So Yeah. You sell them all at the same time, then the the availability of the market just causes the price to go down, which it has. Mhmm. And then it goes back up, and then, you know, it's the roller coaster ride. So people who sell on the way down lose their money, and people who buy on the way up gain the money. It seems to be a very effective tool for transferring wealth from, you know, 18 year olds who watch a, crypto influence on the Internet, and they tell them how to, you know, transfer their first paycheck into an exchange then buy Bitcoin and then do an airdrop thing. It's like those young people who were eight years old, maybe when Bitcoin first came out, they're now legal adults.
So these these young people who feel like they need to risk it all to get ahead, but then a lot of them lose it all.
[01:10:25] Unknown:
That is really the same argument that a that a person had where the lot you could make that and I've heard it made that the lotto is basically aimed at poor people because it's, in their mind, the only real way to achieve large wealth. And so poor people burn up what resources they do have in order to try and achieve large wealth. And it's it's the same argument. You know, you could make against the lotto.
[01:10:53] Unknown:
Except for the lotto has significantly less, inherent surveillance capabilities built into it than Bitcoin does and the blockchain does. Yeah. And the FBI comes out and tells you every, like, year or two, You know? No matter what you do on the blockchain, we see you. The US government is one of the largest holders of Bitcoin on the planet. I know. And they're pretending like they don't have a reserve of it. Right? That's the the best irony. We're we're gonna make a strategic reserve of this shit that we've been seizing since 2010.
[01:11:39] Unknown:
Do you remember what? Do you remember when they took and they hit that storage place in the bay? And they got, like, fucking gist. And this was well after. This didn't even have anything to do with the Silk Road. That money that they're advertising that they took, that was just from the Silk Road thing. There's been all kinds of other busts where they go in and bust these, like there's places in big cities where you can it's not a bank, but you're basically renting out what would be the equivalent of a safety deposit box that's not in a bank. And the government goes and raids does huge raids on these and gets millions and millions of dollars, fucking, like, a Bitcoin, you name it.
[01:12:19] Unknown:
The civil asset forfeiture is, you know, the the real modern day piracy regardless of whether or not there are actual Somali pirates. Yeah. The government can just come in and take all of your shit. All of
[01:12:38] Unknown:
it. And then I'm gonna throw it. People I know that has gotten his that got his money back from the government. I got pulled over by a cop for no reason, ran through the ringer, arrested. He arrested me for OxyContins. They were my OxyContins because I Mhmm. It it was, like, a month after I'd flown off a motorcycle into a tree. It shattered my whole left side, so they were prescribed OxyContins. And I he arrested me for them because he said the label was worn on the bottle because it was in my pocket. And fucking and you can even see where I was breaking. And it was an old prescription because by the time I was a month in, I was already not going and getting represcribed because I didn't wanna keep taking those fucking things. And I was taking and breaking them into little bits and taking bits, you know, just to get by.
And, so he arrested me on it, and he took I had $5 because I just sold a gun and, took $5. He took the scope from the gun because the guy it was a night vision scope, so the guy wasn't didn't wanna pay the extra for that. Vehicle, stole it. And then that cop ends up getting arrested for it because then I went to the right to the state's attorney's office because they let me out. They let me out that night because, my doctor sent a thing to my daughter, and my daughter walked in and laid it on the counter when she came in to get my dog. And they're like, oh, shit. Like, hey. They have prescription with what my surgery was and everything and why I had them. And then they let me loose.
And I went in. I was like, where's my fucking money and my stuff? And my money was gone, and the cop had they ended up arresting the cop, and he did a couple years of prison over it. Fuck yeah. He had, like, 80 they found, like, 80 evidence bags at his house. He was he was he was cabbing all kinds of fucking shit. You know? That's that's what they do. They figure, if they put a you know, if they can catch you doing anything, like, even you know, it's probably not so bad anymore. But back in the day, if they found, like, a seed or a stem from marijuana or something in your vehicle, they they felt free to just rob and pillage you because nobody was gonna stand up for you. They're like, oh, you're a criminal. I can do whatever the fuck I want. I'll steal everything you've got.
[01:14:54] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:14:58] Unknown:
Super gross.
[01:15:00] Unknown:
Fucking pirates, dude.
[01:15:02] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:15:04] Unknown:
Without the they're pirates without the code.
[01:15:10] Unknown:
Well, and they're bitches. Pirates, at least, were kinda tough, guys. These guys are bitches because you can't fight back. And if you even fucking look like you're fucking like, you sneeze at them, they're like, oh, bam bam bam. They're like, there's a bunch of bitches. 'm like, I've seen, I've seen flow. I'm saying that military trained guys should not be in the police. Military trained guys, we know how to fucking they train you. You don't get to fire for nothing. Like, if you're out in the if you're out in the field and they start firing on you, you don't get to just start firing back because you're scared or willy nilly. You wait. You have to sit and wait. If they're firing at you, duck. And then you it's time to fire back, you fire back.
[01:15:55] Unknown:
Well, that's that's the thing. The the ROI is so different between US civilian police force and the military the they don't want people trained in military ROI. They don't.
[01:16:13] Unknown:
Yeah. You don't Return on investment. Shooting things because you're a cowardly little fuck. Or ROE. I'm sorry. My bad. Like like, just, just a few months ago, maybe like six months ago, Brian and I get a call because they say that there's a tweakers trying to harm this little girl that's at home by yourself. So Brian and I go screeching up the fucking mountain. Turns out this little girl is a fucking tweaker, and she's having tweaker delusions. But, anyways, in between then, they call the cops, and the cops actually show up, which is as shocking as anything else in this story.
And the cops showed up. And when this girl cop got out of her car, Kevin, who's this, like, fucking Shaggy from Scooby Doo looking dude, kinda moves very sloth like, hunches his shoulders, moves like this. He's like, he's got his hands up in the air, clearly empty, and he's trying any and he's walking toward him. And this cop fucking she's shaking. It's like, stop, boy. Stop moving. Stop. And she fucking chambers around. I see her fucking clicking off safety and fucking draw a beat on him. And I'm like, Jesus Christ. This scared ass crazy bitch is about to shoot us. Uh-huh. Like, are you fucking serious right now? And she's the only person with a gun. Everybody else has their hands up. They're empty.
Like and this chick is just shaking. Her voice is breaking. She's fucking got a gun. She's fucking aiming it at us. I'm like, Jesus Christ.
[01:17:44] Unknown:
Are you familiar with James Freeman, Ben?
[01:17:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I am.
[01:17:49] Unknown:
Did you see the the last little audit that he did, Brian, from high impact flicks picked it up? Maybe. We played it we played it on the show yesterday, but I think it might it it's worth a a rerun just because of, the master class that he delivers in terms of being able to handle the police. And I'm gonna include Brian's commentary, because he does a really good job of, like, breaking it down here. It's it's a little bit lengthy, but we got time. Lab coat operator
[01:18:30] Unknown:
or the unwitting patient because somebody is getting operated on, and it may as well not be you. Here's the deal, and it's obvious. Publicly funded cities generate their revenue from the public. And if you wondered what public means, it comes from the old French word publicus, which became public, which means open to all or belonging to the people. Now when somebody comes along claiming to be a servant of the people and yet tries to withhold or retain secrets from the public, well, then we got a serious problem because what we have here is hypocrisy and betrayal.
Because city officials, like it or not, are in control of the resources and appropriations for the city in which you live, and there is a budget. They are to be held accountable and subservient to the public, not the other way around, even though they'd like you to believe that you're servants of them. And since it's pretty much known and it's a foregone conclusion that city officials are extremely wasteful and fraudulent on a grand scale, it's only reasonable to make cuts and employ austerity measures on the government. And that's what James Freeman is doing in this video right here when he goes to the Oro Valley Public Works department. Now, I want you to take a look at James' complete video, and the link will be in the description, but I wanna hone in on the last part of the video where the badge tyrants arrive on the scene. And I wanna show you this interaction between James and the public officials because they have absolutely no ground to retain or detain James Freeman. Check this out.
[01:20:15] Unknown:
Hello. How are you doing? Hello. What's going on? Just doing our investigation. Okay. I'm sorry. I told him you probably wouldn't come, and I told him if you're not coming, we'll just leave now. Okay. Because they didn't wanna cooperate. And you know that. I already spoke with you. So you you know, we're not gonna try to force cooperation like the police would do. No. We're not cops. We wouldn't we wouldn't, get violent with anybody. So we're I mean, these quips are funny, and they're not funny at the same time because cops will force their will upon you. And yet, if you force your will on somebody else doing exactly what the cops do on a routine basis, you would be rightly removed from society
[01:20:52] Unknown:
and jailed. And yet, somehow, they are able to do it because, apparently, badges and uniforms
[01:20:58] Unknown:
grant special rights. Can I talk to them real quick about why we're gonna call you? Sure. But as of right now, we are in a call for service, so we'll we'll be speaking to you briefly. Sorry. I don't wanna speak to them. Okay? Okay. Alright. Are we detained then? Yes. Absolutely. Oh, we're detained? It's a call for service. You're not free to go. Oh, a call for service? What crime are we suspected of? So right now, that's we're gonna talk to someone. What? That's Crime are we suspected of? You're you're detained for investigation. Okay. Investigation of what crime?
[01:21:24] Unknown:
Just hate Look at Torres's face right here. Torres is like, oh, boy. I've run into this guy before, and he has all the authority in the world to say what he's saying. And this other cop right here, you can tell that he's not used to and has never been into a confrontation where somebody actually challenged his authority.
[01:21:43] Unknown:
Well, today's a new day, buddy. Hang out for a while. Okay. No. I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and out the door. No. Am I detained? You're you're not free. For what crime? You are not For what crime? What's your name? L e I n n? Officer Are you heard of you're not free to leave
[01:21:57] Unknown:
No. But you're not free to leave
[01:21:59] Unknown:
What crime do you suspect me of? You're not free to What crime do you suspect me of? Keep your voice down. I don't have to keep my voice down. You can be charged with disorderly today. You do what disorderly is? Come on. I'm not new here. This is my job. You understand that? I understand. Okay. Can you just hang out for real? No. I'm not I don't need While the comp while the cop is going like this, he's the one escalating this entire thing. He's he's showing the sign of de escalation
[01:22:26] Unknown:
as his actions show escalation. You can I don't know what part of you can't detain an American without reasonable articulable suspicion at the very least? That's the that's the least amount of threshold that you have to meet that a crime has been committed. The constitutional standard is probable cause that a crime has been committed. It's not just stand alone reasonable articulable suspicion or stand alone probable cause. There's a dot dot dot behind both of those, That a crime has been committed, and We Got A Call
[01:23:04] Unknown:
doesn't cut the mustard. Need to hang out for you.
[01:23:13] Unknown:
Hey.
[01:23:14] Unknown:
Hey. Put putting the gloves on. I love it. Hey. Can we go, man? No. You're you're not really You need to stop. I don't mean to stop. I'm telling you what you need to do. What crime do you suspect me of? So we're free to talk to you after we're gonna talk to them. We're gonna find out what they call to sue. Okay? So you don't know why you're here, but I'm detained? You're here for a call for service. We can take hold on to you guys about being disorderly right now, so we're gonna Do you know what disorderly is? So I'm gonna answer your question So you suspect me of being disorderly. Is that what you're saying? No. We're investigating. You're gonna be detained for investigation. For a d for investigation of a crime. You have to suspect you know what reasonable, articulable suspicion is, boy? I'm not I'm not going Do you know what reasonable you're not going down this route? What? The law? Obeying the law? You're not going down that route? Well, I you can chill right here. Okay. You just hang out for me. I want to leave now. You're not free to leave. You're not free to leave. Why is that? Because we're Hey, guys. This is Oro Valley Police Department. They're detaining me right now, for investigation of which crime?
[01:24:07] Unknown:
Which crime? Look at their faces. Look at all of their faces. That right there just tells the story. Nope. I guess there is no crime. I guess we were caught being the order followers that we've always been and will always be. We're here to detain you for, because we got a call. Because we got reasonable articable suspicion. Of what? Just reasonable or ticketable because we were told to. They have no answers,
[01:24:38] Unknown:
and they have no clue. If clues were on sale, they wouldn't even be able to afford them. Just checking. We got reports. Different things going on. We're just making sure that everything's good. Am I free to go? Now you are. Give me a free now. Great. Alright. I need I need your car. I need I need your card. I need your card right now. For sure. Okay. You can I'll give you my name and my name and my name. You know, I try not to file lawsuits. You understand, young man? But you're a dumb mother effer. Okay. Well, you can back up. You don't get to detain people. No. You can back up. No. You can back up. Chill out. If you'd like to, if you would like to, any Go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm You're fine. Go ahead. Just go ahead, Nichols. Nicholson. Yep. Nicholson.
[01:25:12] Unknown:
Any I understand that
[01:25:14] Unknown:
you're dismissed. Walk away. I'm not well. Sorry. Go ahead. He keeps approaching me aggressively. Right here. I'm Nicholson. We're not gonna have any issues. I know. Here. Let me let me we're fine.
[01:25:23] Unknown:
Absolutely. And I I have no issue with you. I understand you guys are doing your investigation. When's the last time you were deposed?
[01:25:31] Unknown:
If you I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I understand. Let me take some deep breaths. And are you on the Brady list?
[01:25:38] Unknown:
Excellent questions that James is asking here. 100% of the time, he is in control. They are back on their heels, answerable to him. He has donned the mantle of authority and soundly and masterfully
[01:25:53] Unknown:
taken that authority away from them. Yes. I get really upset when people threaten violence upon me. I've never threatened violence upon anyone in here. And when you tell me I'm detained and I try to walk out the door and you block my way, that's violence. I know. There's no Can you ask the violent man to leave so we can just have a calm talk? Out the door. Out the door. I'm no threat whatsoever. I understand that. I understand that. Ask the violent man to leave, please, so we can just be reasonable. It's just you and I talk right now. Okay. She can stay, and and, you can stay. These two both detergent anything go. She didn't Love it. No. Calling the shots.
[01:26:24] Unknown:
And don't you love it when somebody yanks the cop out of the driver's seat and shoves him in the back of the car and tells him to be quiet while you do the driving? That's the way it should be. That is the that is the natural order. If you are a servant, then you bow to the king. In this case, the people are the king, and the public servants are supposed to do the people's bidding.
[01:26:47] Unknown:
And so that's what you and I are just talking. You're free to leave at any point you want. Okay. I understand you wanted to talk. So And let's have him leave.
[01:26:55] Unknown:
Please. You mind just Absolutely. I appreciate that. Thank you. I appreciate that. Appreciate you. Him as well. He detained me as well. She can stay as backup. I you already know I got no weapons. If I appreciate it. If we're gonna hurt you, I'd I'd hurt you. If you're gonna hurt me, you'd hurt me. Okay. Cool. I'll even sit down. How's that? If you want to, that's for Alright. Let's bring this down. Thank you. Appreciate it. Mister Nicholson. So like I said, we we what happens is we get a call that, essentially,
[01:27:19] Unknown:
it comes back that someone's being combative in the lock. And that's what we are trying to figure out is what was combative in either physically, anything like that. That's why they're trying to figure out what happened. Okay. Talked with them. They said, nope. Just you didn't like their answer, this and that. And that's what all I needed to hear. Everything's fine. You guys are good to take off if you wanna leave. Okay. Anything like that. I understand that you were asking about Salaries. Salaries. Yeah. As far as I know,
[01:27:44] Unknown:
that information is either online Right. Or directed through HR. Right. And we're we're we're we we had a wonderful conversation with Torres and one of our partners earlier today. We explained everything we're doing. No secrets. No nothing. Torres, I'm glad you you showed up too because a lot of times I was I was already still here on seeing I was just on the court actually, so I just finished up at the time. That's the problem. A lot of times guys like him show up. They don't know what's going on, and they anyways, so couple of things at this point then. Okay.
[01:28:12] Unknown:
You got And I love this because you've got a couple of well placed compliments coming from James Freeman into the mind of the law enforcers that causes them to drop their guards. This is the same tactic, by the way, that law enforcement uses on us. They try to engage in small talk. They try to get you to believe that, hey. You're not in trouble right now. If you wanna talk to us, you can. You don't have to. I'm just here to listen to what you gotta say. So people let their guard down, then they start yapping their jaws, and then they get themselves into trouble because law enforcement law enforcement mode is never turned off in the minds of an authoritarian psychopath. So James, again, keeps him he cements himself right here at this point with well placed compliments
[01:29:01] Unknown:
in the driver's seat of control. I report that someone was being combative. That's just the information that that somebody was in the lobby was being combative. Is there a the term that was used. Can you tell me, is there a definition for combative?
[01:29:13] Unknown:
I don't know off the top of my head. Typically, combative means a couple of things. We don't know what that means until we get here, which is why we gotta talk to the other party real quick. As soon as we verify that combative wasn't anything physical, and it was their interpretation of something, We have no issue with the crime's committed or anything like that. So when you walked in, were you under the impression that a crime was committed for you personally? Right. I'm sorry. What you were were you personally under the impression that a crime had been committed when you walked in? Know. And that's where we have to investigate. Right. We we don't know. You don't know. We don't. So what we're doing is we're trying to verify that a crime has not been committed. Are you under the sorry. Go ahead. And so that's all we're doing. I think that took me probably thirty seconds, maybe forty five seconds to verify that it was just their interpretation that you didn't they didn't agree with what you were saying. You didn't agree with what they were saying, and so they called us. And somewhere along the words, combative was taken, and that's we just gotta verify that it's nothing no crime, nothing like that. Are you under the impression
[01:30:12] Unknown:
that you can detain someone without
[01:30:15] Unknown:
actual reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime? So in investigative purposes, detention is applicable. And so when we're just trying to verify that no nothing physical has occurred,
[01:30:25] Unknown:
at that point, we just gotta verify that and make sure that a crime has not, in fact, been committed. Okay. So when you came in, you didn't know if a crime was committed or not? No. Or you got to conduct an investigation. Was I detained then? At that point? Yes. We have to confirm. Great. Perfect. So you didn't know if a crime was committed? For an investigative purpose. Right. You didn't know a crime was committed. Right? I love this.
[01:30:46] Unknown:
This is inter police interrogation in reverse. Now James has got them squealing, and they are talking. They're jabbing their jaws. He's collecting the data on them. He's allowing the cops to construct their own gallows and put the noose around their own neck. This is a master class that every American needs to take a look at. Because this is as rare as finding a seven carat diamond
[01:31:14] Unknown:
embedded in a stack of hundred dollar bills sitting next to a chilled bottle of champagne and two glasses on an afternoon jog with your honey. And you detained me? Those officers detained you. And yes. Did you detain me as well? I was conducting the investigation. But at that point, we have to confirm that a crime, in fact, has not been committed. I just need to know who all detained me so I can put the names on the litigation. Did you detain me? Yep. You did? Yep. Okay. And, again, you did not, know that a crime was committed. Is that right? Not know. And you didn't even have reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime was verify that a crime has not been committed based on the information. Okay. So it's guilty until proven innocent? It's an investigative person. Great. So Excellent. Yes, sir. So it's, I was guilty until proven innocent. No. Is that right? No one's guilty. Well, I was just saying He is taking them through the ringer and they are on the spin cycle right now.
[01:32:00] Unknown:
They can't. If they're calling us saying that something's happened, we have to talk Really? But it's They can't leave. They can't leave? It's they're calling us saying they call us and say a crime's been committed, and they're not giving us any information. They try and leave. What what is happening to that point? We can't say you're guilty without getting more information. If they wanna leave, at that point, we're like, you can leave, but we're not gonna conduct an investigation. This is rich. Okay. This is good. Okay. So,
[01:32:26] Unknown:
did you detain me? Please say no. Just say no, Torres. I don't wanna put your name on the lawsuit. I was like Did you you didn't detain me. Right? So if you have any further questions, you can direct them towards me. And if that's not applicable, we can direct you towards the officer. I'm gonna put that Torres did not detain me. She never did say I was detained. That is absolutely true. Verbalized it on the account. Correct, in a long line. Love this, man. I love this.
[01:32:50] Unknown:
Torres, I'm letting you go. These other guys, I'm holding them accountable. They will be on the litigation.
[01:32:58] Unknown:
Torres is just a a really, really good cop. Yes. She is. Absolutely. And I'm we're trying to keep the good ones around. We're trying to get rid of, I mean, if you have a willingness to learn and get better, we might keep you, Nicholson. But as long as you think important. As long as long as you think you get to detain people
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and Look at the relief on Torres' face.
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Until you find out if a crime was committed, you're definitely on the chopping block. Okay. Perfect. And that's perfectly understandable from your point of view. Right? I'm not gonna argue with you. From a legal standpoint and from Absolutely. Yeah. I'm not gonna argue with you. Court's point of view, everyone's point of view. Perfect. We live in a society of law and order. Right? Oh, absolutely. Well, we want we want to. Absolutely. But then we have people who break the law. Okay. Detain people without reasonable articable suspicion. Perfect. Yeah. I feel like we can articulate that, but that's okay. Well, now he's being condescending. This cop is Nicholson is being condescend. Perfect. Yeah. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever about our laws. Whatever about the Supreme Court. Whatever about law and order. You just told me. Yeah. You verbalized. Like, what a did not believe that I committed a crime. All three of you verbalized that you did not believe I committed a crime. Oh. And yet they treated him as though he did
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as evidenced by the detainment.
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And you still detained me. You know what you know what would have happened if I decided to leave anyways while he was trying to block my way? There is And I was saying I'm not a force necessary to leave. That, Anna? I probably would have beat me up pretty bad. I would sure hope no. Yeah. They would have put hands on. They would have physically stopped me, except for Torres. I could tell her demeanor. I could read her energy. She already knew what was going on, and and she wanted none of this bullshit that you guys were doing. She's just She is. So like I said,
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You know, you have got to understand that there is something positive and light going on in the heart of Torres. She's like, oh my god. This is awesome. I've got good favor with this guy who's writing bad reports about my fellow cops. I better cross my t's and dot my i's from here on out. Do you have any further questions? What These my fellow Thin Blue Line badge members might get me into trouble.
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That would love to do I just need, con I need information for the three of you so that I can for you. I appreciate it. Thank you. Absolutely. Oro Valley, Arizona. In a tough position though. You know? Absolutely. Because you got she she's got two officers here that she knows are breaking the law, that she knows are doing something wrong. But the tough thing is if she stands up against them and says, hey, guys, guys, woah, woah. Now she's she's probably gonna get bullied. She's probably gonna get treated bad within the department. I think so. Really? Dude, I've been doing this for ten years. Yeah. I have literally watched good cops get fired. Oh. You know why? Because of doing the right thing. Well, I believe that she would be just fine. When you're part of a criminal enterprise and you're not willing to go along with the, criminals,
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it can be very difficult. Oh, I could understand that. So if there's any further questions, what I would love to do, like I said, is direct you towards, sergeant who is part of our internal Okay. Over there. And if there's any further questions, like I said, regarding salary, I know that's what you you've been looking for. You can direct that towards either online. Like I said, all that stuff is should be available online. Durban? HR. Yes. Kelsey. Alright. I've got LPO
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Nicholson. What's LPO mean? The lead police officer. Lead police officer. Trying to make sergeant? I'm just enjoying my time right now. Are you? Yes, sir. K. If I didn't have my daughter with me, we would've pushed this a little farther.
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I would've walked out that door. I would've taken a beating.
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Oh, I I would hope it wouldn't come to that on Do you understand Arizona is a stay in your ground state? When you're unlawfully attacked, you have every right to defend yourself by any means necessary. Are you aware that even if you're a police officer, when you unlawfully attack someone, they have the right to defend themselves against you? Absolutely. You could try that. And that's you could try Well, I know I would hope that we won't ever come to that situation. And what would happen if I did defend myself against an unlawful attack from you? I hope we don't have to find out, but, you know, officers are gonna do what we need to do. Right. And I can't tell you You'd probably be willing to kill me over an unlawful detention, wouldn't you? You know? The question is, are people willing to do the same to you? You know what the thing is?
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I have,
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That is so heavy duty. Because when cops come with the implied threat of force, and they do, they've got their bests on, They've got their training behind them. They've got their guns on. They've got their handcuffs. They've got backup. They got the unlimited resources of the kids state, so they've come intending to do you harm. And if you resist, they will slap charge upon charge upon charge on you if you live through the experience. That is the utmost
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in state sponsored terror and violence. Yes, sir. Policy that dictates my use of force, and I'm gonna stick to that. Yeah. I can't give you hypotheticals. And as long not to do this And as long as and as long as you have a policy, you can't be sued. But it doesn't protect you from someone defending themselves against you. So Well, I You get when when, you know, when you attack the wrong person and you end up in front of God and you're like, what happened? I was following my policies. How'd that work out for you? Right? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, Go ahead and get out of here. No atheist in a foxhole. So that is a master class in how you handle tyrants who are more than willing to trample
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Go ahead and get out of here. When you when you stand before God and he goes, what happened? I'm defending my father through. Dude, I love this guy. I do.
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Yeah. No. He's he's he's he's good. He's good. And his his daughter was behind the other camera?
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Yeah. Yeah. His daughter was on the the second cam. He had a body cam on, and his kid was filming, with, you know oh, god. What's it called? I can't even remember. But yeah. Yeah. His kid was filming Like a GoPro or something?
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Something like that. And and the fucked up part is is that if you've never dealt with cops, then people have this desire, you know, to feel like they're on the on the good side. They don't want to believe that the that these people are so shitty. But if you've ever been a person that's dealt with them, they are the dirtiest of the fucking dirty. And I'm not saying that there isn't the occasional decent one, but I'm saying it's an extremely low percentage. And the fact is is a bad apple spoils the bunch. Well, the whole bunch has fucking been spoiled. Like, that's just the way it is. Well, the the system
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weeds out the good ones. Yeah. They do. But, James Freeman was talking about that where he was like, I I've seen good cops get fired for doing the right thing.
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Yeah. Dude. When I do prison, it's the same thing with the guards. If you're a decent guard and a decent human being, six months. Yep. Most we got.
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Yep. Yep. And, that lady cop, Torres, dude, she's gonna be answering the phone at her uncle's roofing company
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in six months. She's already there. She's already there.
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Yeah. No. She saw way too much that day. Yeah.
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Well and, apparently, those other fucking morons apparently have I don't even understand how any of these police departments don't have a meeting and say, listen. For an hour, we're just gonna go through a series of first amend amendment videos. And you're gonna see what these people do and what kind of rights people have, and we're gonna not be the department that gets put in the viral video.
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Right. So departments everywhere could watch this video, download it to their computer, transfer it to VHS, store it forever Mhmm. And then just once a year, just sit down and play the video back and make everyone take notes and ask a question
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or quiz about it. Every new recruit has to watch it. Like, this is how this and you can tell the difference between cops that know this kind of shit and the ones that get their department sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Like, that dumb motherfucker, he literally admitted that he was detaining that dude and that he didn't have an articulable crime that he could state Yeah. In order to detain him. Like, that dude is definitely not making sergeant. He's about to lose his stripes.
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All of those guys looking they they don't have their fucking sidearm anymore, and they're at the courthouse doing foot standing next to the metal detector. All of them. All of them. Yeah. I don't know what building he was in, any word. But if you go to James Freeman's YouTube, you can watch the full, like, thirty some minute video, and it's explained at the beginning of it. Like, the county assessor or something like that. He was trying to acquire information on police salary because he wanted to know how much of, you know, his county's tax dollars were going to fund criminals in a a criminal gang.
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Was he doing this as a journalist?
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He's doing it as an auditor. He's been doing that for for ten plus years. Okay. Yeah. He's been around for a long ass. I remember when he was first starting. And he was they're not so smooth. Yeah. They were not smooth as like, that was smooth as silk. Like, that dude owned that whole thing. Like, they were not like that ten years ago.
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You know? Practice makes perfect. The moment when he put the fucking black freaking plastic gloves on, the way that those cops reacted, when it's something where they were like, oh, shit. We know what this means.
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Shit's about to get weird.
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Yeah, dude.
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Turn your head and cough weird?
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Like, full physical? Yeah. No. I watch some of them audit videos
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every now and then. I can only watch them for a short time because I've been through ran through the races. Oh, yeah. I get heated, dude. I start yelling at the screen and all that kinda shit. It's like I'm watching football back in the day.
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Yep. Yep. Yeah. Like, I I'm good enough. Spicy. That's what that's what I'm saying. That shit pisses me off, and I've been beat up by enough cops. It didn't didn't. You know? And I haven't won a bunch of money doing it. So, you know, even that cop that, that cop that arrested me and that I was talking about earlier and fucking, busted me for my own stuff, fucked me over. You know? The every lawyer I talked to, this was in South Dakota. It happened. Every lawyer I talked to said, fuck. Yeah. You got the best case ever. I I that's the best case about suing the state I've ever seen. Not a single person would take it. Like, I didn't even get the didn't didn't even end up with a lawsuit. Nobody would take the lawsuit.
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Yep. But, you know, I mean, that that kind of shit does make me feel good. There's there's a whole bunch of people that stick their necks out to do these kind of, like, county and police audits and stuff like that. And if they can't command a room like that, they're gonna get ran over. So that really is, a master class on how to deal with these fucking terrorists.
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Yeah. I woulda I woulda thrown out a shot. Like, I hope your old lady's okay later to the fucking one that he may go outside. I'm
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Well, yeah. Because if you notice, that dude had a, you know, plastic wet wedding ring on, and so did the fucking giant Bubba that came through the door late that also got sent outside. They both had wedding rings on. You know they went home and beat the fuck out of their wives because that's what at least 40% of cops do.
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Yep. And the and the and the other 60%, there's there's half of those that do it, and it just doesn't get reported.
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Yeah. Yeah. Because cops are allowed to lie. Yeah. And cops' wives don't snitch often. Like, it's gotta get bad
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before cops' wives snitches. Who you gonna snitch to? The cops? Mhmm. Like, that's the problem. Like, you gotta go snitch to the dudes that are gonna fucking be the ones that team up with this guy. Yep. Right? Because they're also beating their wives. If they if they let you get away with that, their wife might get a good idea of coming and talking about, well, last time I slapped her up last weekend because I was pissed off because an auditor didn't let me fucking violate his rights. Yep. Right? So that's that's just the way that goes. And and the fact is is when you work just like dude said, when you work in a criminal enterprise, just like in, if you ever watched that casino movie, with, Dinero and all them, and that he's like, we expected the guys doing the skimming to do some skimming off of us. You can't expect to do it to do things like that and not do it for himself too.
Right? So this is this is the way cops are. They're working for a bunch of criminal thugs. They can do whatever the fuck they want. And here's where it really here's what really happens. They believe because they think you're a criminal, so you're not you're a lesser person. You're not a human to them. You're a criminal. So in their mind, as soon as they can put you in that category and and cop most cops think all of us are in that category. And and and believe me, just like he sat there and when and when he's, like, articulate a a crime, they couldn't, but they were still willing to do it. They're they're they don't care. They're they're willing to make up a a disorderly conduct, a disturbing the peace.
There there's, like, six crimes that they put down all the time that have to be a secondary crime, but yet they won't list a primary crime. You're like, you can't have the secondary refusing arrest unless you had a crime to arrest me for. Yep. Like, refusing arrest is one of the ones. Why? He's in here for re I'm arresting him for refusing arrest. Well, what were you arresting him for in the first place?
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Don't know. Didn't like him.
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Yeah. So so there's a bunch of little games that these folks play. It's absolutely ridiculous. They're allowed to lie, cheat, steal. And then you wonder why they're the worst of the worst people. Like, they think that we are nonhumans and they're better than us. That's just part of why they don't do the whole public servant thing. They straight up. They're our superiors,
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Which is, you know, constitutionally and legally backwards. Yeah. As far as that goes, the the authority granted to them is granted, yeah, through, I don't know, public fucking order and public fucking they're publicly funded. They don't exist without taxpayer money and regular citizens signing a tacit social contract saying that, okay. You you're here to protect my property or my privacy or, you know, ensure the flow of commerce and shit like that. And I have problems with all of that in general. But if we're going to live in reality and live in the now, then we should be able to address it as is, not as what it should be.
And what it is right now is a complete and total bastardization of what it is supposed to be. They're unanswerable. They're a fucking militarized
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force. But for all the people that will say the constitution is a document that doesn't do what it's supposed to do, The problem is is we're a bunch of bitches. We let this happen. When when it the guys who wrote the constitution, they said, occasionally, the life tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants. And he says patriots first. That means if you want your country to not be a piece of shit, you need to put your balls out on the line.
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Yep. Yep. Well and if you look at the, the statistics for police, the police getting shot by citizens in the sixties and seventies, it was on par or above with the number of citizens being shot by the police. Somewhere around the nineties, that started to go in the reverse. And now it's like no cops getting shot by citizens and all kinds of citizens getting murdered and assassinated by the police. Yeah. And so there there's a a disparity going on, that is allowing for the kind of general attitude that the police carry. And, sure, they've got fucking LRAVs, you know, and they're fucking they're rolling around in, like, half an Abrams.
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Fucking it it's, you know, a a tiny towns in South Dakota. Like, you know, and all of that was part of, like, different giveaways from different things coming apart, you know, and whatnot. Fuck. Yeah. Even in tiny towns in South Dakota, they got tricked out fucking Humvees in Indiana and shit like that. For what? For what?
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You know? But if you're going to let your domestic security force become a a militarized active duty enforcement organization as opposed to the protect and serve, you know, marketing, then you're gonna bear the brunt of that. You are.
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Do you think some of these cops could make some extra money by doing DoorDash or delivering pizzas?
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Dude, by robbing people is the way they make extra money. Yep. And and the thing is is they don't care about laws. Now, you know, one of the weirdest things being the age that we are is having lived through some of the weird shit we've seen, like the Brady standoff or the Bundy standoff, I mean. Yeah. The Bundy standoff was one of the wildest shitting things I ever fucking seen. Yeah. You know, where you have two different police forces totally fucking drawn down on each other. Yeah. You know? And a bunch of citizens pointing cops at one particular department. Yeah. Yeah.
Like, that was fucking wild. Like, are you like, you know, the federal government was in the wrong and, the enough pressure got put on the state police to where the state police had to come fucking, you know, that was back when BLM meet met Bureau of Land Management, you know, back with the BLM and, guys, and that was just wild. And then BLM guys had no problem just dry just flying around slaughtering this dude's cattle, destroying the water systems, you know, just wild shit. They don't care about what they're doing to us because they don't I mean, how many things does it take for the general public to get it? How many The ultimate
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the ultimate irony in this is, like, all of those guys voted for Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is engaging in the biggest fucking land grab right now in terms of all of that BLM shit and taking away all of the fucking rights of ranchers to graze on BLM land. And, like, the very thing that they thought that they were voting for that would protect them is coming to bite them in the ass.
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And the worst part is it's not like Biden would have helped them. There's no good option. Yeah. You know? They don't they won't let a good option become viable. It it yeah.
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The good option is no fucking federal government.
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That's the good option. But then that that would include us going and doing that whole refreshing the life tree of liberty thing, and we're a bunch of chicken shit bitches.
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There's a lot of chicken shit bitches out there, man. I don't know. We give people a fucking debate. I stick my fucking neck out every day. I throw elbows where I can, when I can. I've had, you know, I've fucking lost everything a number of times. I had my fucking whole life burnt down in my friend's driveway over what I believed in. I fucking went and started right back up immediately. Like, you I I grew up rough, dude. There's nothing you can do to me that I haven't already lost. You know what I mean? Like, it it it ain't it ain't gonna be me. I ain't that dude.
I might not get on an airplane again,
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but but, like The problem the problem is is these fuckers have never been punched in the chin. Yeah. And until you've been punched in the chin, number one, you'll say things that you shouldn't say. But number two, you're you're you have this insane fear. Just like when you were a little kid and you went to go go down a really steep slide the first time. After you get through it, you're like, all right. Well, that went bad. You know, I might have even liked it. I Yeah. You know, that's that's the you know, once you know you can survive taking one on the chin,
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it's okay. You can you can keep it and keep going. I keep trying to tell people, like, in the content creator space, I don't have long term friends that I haven't taken it to the ground with or at least, like, you know, really gotten a fucking knockdown drag out where it almost fucking came to blows. Like with you, Ben, we've done that multiple times. You know? You're one of my best fucking friends. And that's why because I know if I was ever in a fucking scrap, you'd be the first guy to fucking jump in. And and so I can fucking count on you. You know? I can depend and you know the exact same for me, dude. If I ever saw you in a fucking situation, my dude, I'd fucking you know, atomic elbow off the top rope, motherfucker. Like, we're doing this shit. You know?
Joshua, to your point, that's the whole reason we do the third eye carnival stuff. Okay? It's about creating the culture that we wanna live in instead of having to react to the culture that's been forced on us. So we gather in person with intent and friendship and fellowship and kinship in order to fucking try to build community that we want to live in. So if you're anywhere near Nashville next month in April, first weekend of April, come out and see us. If you're anywhere near Pueblo, Colorado over fourth of July weekend, come out and see us. We're expanding the whole fucking thing out. I the the it's designed to be replicated, not scaled. And we're gonna be doing these all over the place. If you can't make it this year, we're gonna do 10 of them next year. See. And I believe Steve's all in this. You know? I'm glad Steve jumped on this. I was actually,
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years ago part of something that was supposed to be like this where we were supposed to go around and have, basically a campfire, and each one was supposed to be about 30 people. And I was all in on it, and then dude lost his fucking mind and tried to go all crazy with it and turned it into a giant festival. And I I bailed. I was like, nah. He wanted more women to
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attend? Yeah. I wanted to to women?
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Yeah. Yeah. He turned it into a into a trying to get a chick fest, and it was just stupid. And I wasn't cool. But we're
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we've got spots in Washington that we're looking at. We've got spots in Oregon that we're looking at. We've got spots in Northern California that we're we're trying to, you know, sort out and shit like that. I'd love to do one on Ben's property. It's just fucking remote. Like, it's really, you know, it's fucking remote. And I'd most people don't have a vehicle with the kind of, you know, ground clearance or suspension
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that that's gonna make it. Are there hiking trails? I mean, you just kinda get them within 10 miles and then You know those things you guys call hiking trails? That's our roads.
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. They call that a road. I mean, they're not about, like, an advanced hiking trail that's, like, half rock climbing. I drive on that every day. Yep.
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Yep. Could be the adventure of a lifetime. It doesn't necessarily have to be a reality TV show, but if you We've been out to your place with nothing in the bed of my truck.
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I was like, goddamn it.
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Steve's out there with a truck. Out here with the truck, and I go up to go take Steve down to the to the other house. And, freaking I I'm behind Steve, and all of a sudden I can hear it. I can hear a. I was like,
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I had nothing in the bed of the truck, dude, to weigh it down and make sure that I, like, got through the shit. Yeah. My bad. I shoulda known. I knew. I knew. I just didn't prepare. That's on me. That's fucking my fault.
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Turn this into a survival training scenario. That's how you make friends for life is just trying to get to meet Christy and maybe eat a cookie she'll make for you. If you if you can make the hike and and find the place, you can follow a company.
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Yep. Wise man on the mountain is not supposed to be easy to get to. If you wanna you wanna and you know what? It really it really is a special thing spending time out here, and, it's only for some people.
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No. There's nothing wrong with remote. It's just if you're trying to get a couple hundred like minded people together, it might be easier to do it in Laytonville at, like At the Hog Farm. Yeah. At the Hog Farm, the then it would be up on Murder Mountain. And so I I am gonna talk to a dude who does a festival there, about maybe doing it in Laytonville.
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Robbie Robbie Marks probably has some, real good ins on that if you know Robbie Marks.
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Yeah. We've met, but I don't know him well.
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We're we're we're we get along with him quite well. We've known him for quite a while. He, he does art for all those festivals. He's, like, one of the big name artists for those type of festivals where he does, like, the their posters and all that shit. Waiting to hear if he's got a book published
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and if he wants to have a party for that. That'd be fun with Robbie Marks.
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Yeah. We we we've been friends with Robbie for quite a while. Heck yeah. No. I'd I've met him once or twice, but never really had, like, a a conversation conversation.
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See, while we have you one in, Robbie.
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Tigers.
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And we do these every Tuesday night with or without a with or without a fight.
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But, yeah, I I was thinking about I was thinking about Laytonville the other day, and then I was talking to Joe from Legit Bat, about doing something maybe up in, like, Ashland, Oregon.
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Joe and Jen are great.
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Oh, those guys rock, dude. They do. I fucking
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I love a number of times.
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Yeah. And we were talking about maybe Ashland as a place, and then there was somebody, oh, the lady that does Poppy's Field Project that airs on my channels on Wednesday night, she's got, like, twenty eight twenty acres in in, Washington state, that's actually pretty well suited for camping and stuff like that. So she works on the field IRL?
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Yeah. Some actual poppies field projecting. Yeah. Yeah.
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Right. Okay. So, Asheville got wrecked, but that's in North Carolina. I'm talking about Ashland in Oregon. And Ashland, Oregon is Southwest, sort of close to the coast. It's a little there's like a little hippie college there. It's actually a cool little town. Used to be a big ass logging town back in the day, and and there's people with nice properties that that are all around it, really close to where they do the Oregon Country Fair.
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You think we could set up a hot air balloon ride to Ben's place? I mean, that would just be It'd be hard to leave the best way in here. You know, could could could we do some, bad planning? We have, there's really in our backpack.
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Pull pull up pull up my, pull up my, leaf spring video, Marcus.
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Where is is that on your YouTubes?
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Yeah. Let's see. You guys will see that this is there's a reason I have a giant truck, and it's got the suspension it has, and it's lifted and all that. Like, this is the kind of shit I go through constantly. Dude,
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I have video on my phone of the drive in and drive out from the last time I was up there in that fucking little ass Ford Ranger, dude. Oh, it's bouncy, boy. It's bouncy. Yeah.
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Yeah. She's rough. She's rough.
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Check our subscriptions here. Are we all subscribed to
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Yeah. I, yeah, I remember YouTube. I remember asking you, you know, like, do we need a four wheel drive for the because I had the first time I went to your house, but do we need a four wheel drive? And you're like, no, dude. The road's fine. It's fucking chill. And it was. It was. The old place, outside of Redding, that was fine.
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Super easy.
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Yeah. With with this one, I'm like, do we need a four wheel drive? And you're like, it's not raining. You should be okay.
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Jared, my producer, for the, for my own's alchemy. He he took out his oil pan coming out here. Mhmm.
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Yeah. Yeah. He did.
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Not good. Yeah. You can't and I've seen a number of vehicles with their oil pans going out here. Yeah. You need the clearance I got. You gotta get it up above them fucking sharp rocks.
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Yep. Yeah. Or you really gotta know how to drive through them.
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Or that chick that came out here with the Prius that she that Prius was so tiny and went right into the potholes and up and out of them. Like, it was just like a dip. Yeah. Hey.
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Yeah. But it it absorbed the whole fucking car.
[02:05:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That bridge just disappear right into them fucking potholes. Like, come out the other side. No problem. Like, wild. Your car is so small that it actually is doing like a like, almost like a a fucking like, like, a side by side.
[02:05:58] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:06:01] Unknown:
I I told Christie I wanna get a I wanna get a fucking, mini and and deck it out.
[02:06:07] Unknown:
What you want is a Miata, and you wanna weld a fucking, a ball hitch to it? Yeah. I'm not kidding, dude. My my old landlord did that, and it was a fucking mountain goat. The thing that goddamn mountain goat, it really was. It was great.
[02:06:28] Unknown:
The fun for today is I blasted my rear leaf springs on my truck. I'm falling too much. Just fully blasted out. So, yeah, it's the top spring. So it's, yes, when we were caught, we were driving. We were actually moving back and forth. We started doing this. Grabbing. Grabbing on my axle. Which is no good. Yeah. We forgot when I was doing, we did a big load of wood and forgot to air up the bags. Yep. That won't happen again. We got this one done. Goddamn wet withdrawal. I can pop out the other one. Throw these
[02:07:16] Unknown:
nice new springs in. That won't happen again.
[02:07:19] Unknown:
No. No. That's the other thing that I why why I have to have such a giant truck because I'm I'm doing shit with my truck all the time. Like, I do shit so fucking heavy that it'll pop them springs like fucking magic. Wing. Hey. Get out of here. This one, somebody want this one. His name is Odiferous. This is the fartness cat. I don't. Your eyes would differ. Odiferous. Find the coin koi. This cat has the rankest ass farts, and it farted constant.
[02:07:59] Unknown:
Dude. Yeah.
[02:08:03] Unknown:
Fuck. Yeah. We named him O'Gifferitz. Oh, dude. I saw, like, a little thing today on on the social media that Ron Weasley, that dude that played Ron Weasley, somebody seen him in a gas station. So they started recording him. And the dude was sitting there, and he looks over and notices the dude's recording him. And he's getting ready to fill his car with gas, and he goes, expensive as petrol petroleum, and then starts filling his car. It was fucking hilarious.
[02:08:33] Unknown:
Alright. At least he's got a good sense of humor about that shit.
[02:08:37] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. It was it was hilarious. That was impressive.
[02:08:42] Unknown:
No. That's good shit, man.
[02:08:44] Unknown:
The first time somebody approached me in public, I thought I was in trouble. If I was freaked out, I'm like, why is this dude walking up on me like this? He was a security guard. And I'm like, fuck. Fuck. What did I do? I haven't even done fucking smoked weed in this place yet or nothing. It's usually the way I get kicked
[02:09:09] Unknown:
out. We're not kicked out of Rockland yet. We got some chatters over there. So shout out to, John Johnson and Waterstar and the others that have been chatting.
[02:09:17] Unknown:
Heck. Yeah. Nice.
[02:09:21] Unknown:
We're streaming to Rockfin, Rumble, and YouTube.
[02:09:24] Unknown:
I was on a voice call with John earlier in the Telegram group. If, if you guys wanna, like, pick up the conversation at any point, get in the Telegram group. We it's basically, like, the live chat, almost fucking twenty four hours a day. You guys are savages. I can't keep up with it. I really can't. But I pop in when I can. And, usually, when I do, I'd, you know, spin up some music and shit like that or throw on some videos that hopefully you haven't seen. Tomorrow, we're gonna watch a movie. And, yeah, it's just all of this is like a community building exercise. It I fucking I I can't stress enough that if you don't have people who share your values and, you know, have the a similar intent for what you want out of the life and want to create a similar culture, the only thing that we're gonna be able to do is be forced to react to culture that we never consented to, that nobody ever asked us to be, a part of that they forced on us. So let's go do our own fucking thing, before they throw the fucking crazy technocratic grid drone fucking bullshit on us. Let's go do that. I'm looking forward to it, motherfucker.
[02:11:01] Unknown:
I'm looking forward to it because I already know that they can only do it in the cities. 1984 sounds like a good time to me. I'm living in the wild zones. I'm having viviparous reproduction as vigorously as I can. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:11:19] Unknown:
Hashtag viviparous. My Viviparous
[02:11:22] Unknown:
reproduction.
[02:11:24] Unknown:
Is that a Jake or Smith
[02:11:28] Unknown:
callback? Wife's gonna be walking It is a Jake or Smith callback. It is. It is. Tell me.
[02:11:36] Unknown:
Did you hear her laugh in the background? She didn't did she didn't say no.
[02:11:42] Unknown:
No. She didn't Is it a sneak? Really poisonous. Yeah. Take away my TV. See if I don't entertain my own damn stuff. Give a fuck it. I I killed my TV when Bill Clinton was president. Motherfucker, you can't scare me. You can't, dude. I'm fucking Bernie Mac in this shit. I ain't scared of you motherfuckers.
[02:12:04] Unknown:
I ain't. I keep CRTs around. I got my VHS tapes already in stock piled.
[02:12:10] Unknown:
I'm from a remote area in South Dakota. We didn't have cable. Like, the amount of time basically, when I was in prison, I had cable. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck about taking away my Internet either. Learning to watch TV is a habit.
[02:12:23] Unknown:
When I was a kid, it's because my dad wanted to watch Cubs games, and he couldn't get WGN locally. So he bought, like, a very limited cable package so that he could watch Chicago Cubs baseball. That's it.
[02:12:42] Unknown:
Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait Yeah. That's what we had. That's what we got also. We got WGN, and it was weird as fuck. Yeah. You did. In South Dakota, the you know, most people were Minneapolis,
[02:12:57] Unknown:
obviously.
[02:12:58] Unknown:
Yeah. You know? But the WGN is what came with our with our shit. So we listened to Harry Carey and watched Hubs Baseball. How could you be, Harry Carey, man? It was one of the greatest broadcasters
[02:13:11] Unknown:
of all fucking time. Dude, him and Bob Euchar. Yeah. Bob Euchar doing Milwaukee Brewers games? Oh, that was great shit, dude.
[02:13:21] Unknown:
God.
[02:13:22] Unknown:
I'm old.
[02:13:25] Unknown:
The when I realized how old I am is when I suddenly realized that because up here, the radio stations suck bad. Like, they got one that's ultra liberal called K MUD and then some other weird one. So then the one of the only things I'll listen to on the radio is, Giants baseball, and I'm not a Giants fan or anything. But I realized I'm old when I could sit and just enjoy a baseball game on the radio for no apparent fucking great, dude. It's You're just color commentary for baseball
[02:13:57] Unknown:
is fucking fun because those dudes have to try. Yeah. Like, they really have to put in fucking work in order to get you to stay there. Yeah. And it's, like, it's a master class in how to do broadcasting. I learned that shit really early on with Harry Carey and Steve Stone and fucking, then I also had a mentor in this shit who used to do, the news for k pig radio. He called himself Travis d Hipp, And, that guy was an absolute legend. He broadcasted, on two radio stations. One one in Santa Cruz and one in Ferndale. And he did it from his place in Grass Valley.
Like, he would call in because he couldn't afford to live in Santa Cruz anymore. But, like, that dude that dude taught me so much and one of my favorite Travis isms ever is sometimes I wonder. Other times I'm sure. And and that's the whole fucking thing. So that's it says it all, in and of itself. And and if you can't figure that out, then you're missing a lot. But, yeah, man. There's there's there's a wonder other times I'm sure. There are people who have missed
[02:15:39] Unknown:
dozens of episodes that we've streamed on Tuesday nights, and they're feeling like, oh, great. Another show that I have to watch every Tuesday night. Well, we have an archive. I've put the audio on an archive so you can download the audio to your phone, go offline, go back to work, just hit play, and there's hours and hours of audio of us having these conversations covering everything. So you don't have to sit glued to a screen watching our ugly mugs.
[02:16:10] Unknown:
You can get to work. You can drive. When he says that, he he doesn't mean me. Obviously, I am dead sexy. We're all aware. He's he's, you know,
[02:16:21] Unknown:
he's not adding me into this. I'm pretty handsome, man. I am. I'm pretty handsome.
[02:16:28] Unknown:
Yeah. You know nobody's just turning away because of the because we aren't sexy. I mean, holy smoke. Why are you even playing coy over here, Marcus? You know what? I am definitely auctioning you off at the fucking third eye. Just sell the audio archives.
[02:16:43] Unknown:
I get that. Marcus is gonna be part of the bachelor auction at the Yes. Carnival.
[02:16:50] Unknown:
We were gonna auction them off at last year at Flat Homer Fest, but fucking,
[02:16:55] Unknown:
I heard
[02:16:56] Unknown:
Pauline saved him. No one wanted to give up their Bitcoin. That was the thing. I mean, all these people hoard their Bitcoin, and here's the greatest value on the block.
[02:17:08] Unknown:
And then people don't And it's a 1 Bitcoin start bid here, ladies. This is this is prime grade a stuff. This is manly. This isn't used up. Hey. He doesn't have a bunch of point. He doesn't have a bunch of other kids or exes. This is this is grade a.
[02:17:30] Unknown:
Don't Anna Anna agrees. She does. She agrees. She's got goldbacks for Marcus. She does. I've met Anna in real life. She she's a very attractive woman. You you would you you'd be you'd be stoked. You know, bags of bags of Ricola to lure me in, And then,
[02:17:53] Unknown:
that's fine. That is if you if you wanted to rather than purchase him through an auction, the thing to do would be to set up one of them boxes with a stick and a rope and a line of Ricolas. Little Ricolas. There's all And he'd just be like Yeah.
[02:18:08] Unknown:
A Recolus. Go and pick them up and put them in my pocket and then put them in my mouse.
[02:18:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. You you would that this is how you capture a Marcus in the wild.
[02:18:21] Unknown:
Mhmm. I will say, you know, I do love their cherry flavor and then their lemon flavor, but that original flavor, I just haven't seen it. So you get a stockpile of those original flavored.
[02:18:35] Unknown:
This is a dowry, ladies. A dowry. How many Ricolas are you bringing? He's he's got he's got you know, you gotta you gotta weigh your options.
[02:18:52] Unknown:
Fucking, Andrew. About that, strategic Ricola. Dude. You're hilarious.
[02:19:03] Unknown:
Recola.
[02:19:06] Unknown:
Tonight, Joe is sponsored by Marcus's penis. The available dong. Fuck.
[02:19:26] Unknown:
I'll be your moral compass.
[02:19:29] Unknown:
Wait. Your mortal compass? Yeah. More more mortal compass. Mortal compass. Did you know that head? Did you know that Buckethead did the original theme for Power Rangers and Mortal Kombat? Buckethead did? Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. And if you go back to the first season of the Power Rangers, it's Buckethead's real name on the credits before doing the theme music. It's like Ryan something. That's all Buckethead, man.
[02:20:06] Unknown:
Certainly never watched Power Rangers. I'm just a bit older than that. My kids were just, like,
[02:20:14] Unknown:
just young enough to where it was still kind of relevant.
[02:20:22] Unknown:
So Mine Mine were before it and then enough after it. I have two groups of kids. So my oldest are before it. My my daughter liked, Powerpuff Girls, and my son liked, Dragon Ball z. So those are pretty good stuffs. Yeah. You know?
[02:20:44] Unknown:
My youngest is a a really big fan of, was it one punch, I think, which is about yeah. Space pirates who are fighting a corrupt international one world government. And that's like that's his shit, dude. That's his shit. We watched the whole attack on Titan thing together a couple of years ago, and that was cool.
[02:21:16] Unknown:
Oh, my my oldest liked that Pokemon too. All the guys on Weaving Spiders or Shitting because they because I could name the Pokemon. It's like, yeah. I I watched the opening for that show, like,
[02:21:27] Unknown:
200 times or something. I don't know. Oh, yeah, Joshua. Dude, I was at hardly strictly Bluegrass Festival one year, and Buckethead played. I mean, he came out throwing Darth Vader lunch boxes at everybody in the crowd. He had, like, a whole fucking trash bag full of them that he dragged out on stage behind him, and he was just hucking these things out of people. It was great. And then he just he just read for, like, an hour and ten minutes. It was fucking awesome.
[02:22:04] Unknown:
Was it viviparous? What's that word? Viparous.
[02:22:13] Unknown:
Yeah. It was,
[02:22:17] Unknown:
Have you not read 1984? Or no. That's Brave New World. Have you not read Brave New World?
[02:22:24] Unknown:
That's a book. Yeah. Yeah. And I've got it on my shelf.
[02:22:28] Unknown:
And in there, everybody that you don't you don't have sex anymore, those are that's for the animals that live out in the non nonhuman settlement zones that they procreate viviparously. Everybody else supplies their genetic material, and then children come out in batches and they do alterations to these batches because if they need engineers, then they get a batch of engineers. And if they need, you know, laborers, they get a batch of laborers.
[02:23:00] Unknown:
Alright. Yeah.
[02:23:02] Unknown:
Yeah. It was brave new world. That's old school dystopian shit.
[02:23:10] Unknown:
Seems very current in those ideas of in vitro fertilization and designer babies.
[02:23:18] Unknown:
Well, I know. And DNA. The idea was, replicated in demolition man, you know, where you didn't, you know, because the swapping of fluids cause it, you know, is, you know, unsanitary and yada yada yada, and everybody's worried about germs now and yada yada, and we can see them walking down that path. And so then they started, you know, like, in in demolition, man, if you wanted to have sex, put on a helmet, and it was just all virtual.
[02:23:52] Unknown:
Right. Right. And then they talk about the there's three seashells. So the the three seashells are still being talked about today kind of in a different way, but it has to do with, a type of man who's Yeah. Got the idea in his mind that, you know, any water between the cheeks, any sort of scrubbing or soap or extra time spent
[02:24:15] Unknown:
in that area will will create some sort of feelings or awakening or something in this man that will cause this other man. Afraid of a bidet because they're they're afraid they'll enjoy the, getting the old kiss on the sphincter?
[02:24:30] Unknown:
Well, whether or not this is extreme satire or irony or just,
[02:24:35] Unknown:
just bullshitting. Good. I wouldn't do up a day. There's times in when the morning when I go to use the bathroom and the fireplace hasn't been on, let me tell you what. That's that water is right next to ice, and so is the rest of it. You're already having to work through that. It's like trying to pitch a pitch a loaf in an igloo. You're like
[02:24:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll pass on that. I'll pass on that. Of cleaning. Like, the the the the part that needs the cleaning attention the most, and they're proud of not cleaning that.
[02:25:10] Unknown:
I, I gotta drop off here in a couple of minutes, fellas. I was wondering if I could play one of the songs of our people.
[02:25:22] Unknown:
Absolutely. Everybody, Jim Bob next week, it's a two on two. It's gonna be fiery. I promise you that. So getting our first real good heater in. So Mark I've seen you in there, William. You'll you'll enjoy this one. Who's moderating that one, by the way? I presumed it was gonna be Marcus, but I did not. I Yeah. No. I'm not. I'm down. I'll I'll I'll jump right in. I'm good for that. In my email to him, I said, I don't know which one's gonna do it, but it's probably gonna be Marcus.
[02:25:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, that's fair. He'll he'll be kinder than I would be anyway. So I I may as well jump into the fray.
[02:26:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I mean I am orthodox curious. We're we're we're red beard tag even.
[02:26:10] Unknown:
I'm I'm I'm ortho curious. I mean, if they have a strategic Bitcoin reserve and recall us, you know, I'm I'm orthodox curious.
[02:26:19] Unknown:
In the in the, spirit of what we've been talking about for quite a while, here is a fantastic song called Freeborn Man as played by Tony Rice, Sam Bush, Belaflect, Jerry Douglas, Mark O'Connor. This is, at least to me, pretty fucking cool. And it amazes me before I really get into this, it amazes me that Tony Rice can be one of the most proficient guitar players on the face of the universe and have that look on his face the entire time. Like, he's a really bored house cat who just got a hold of a dust ball while he's doing the shit that he's doing.
[02:27:25] Unknown:
Some twenty odd years ago. I ran away for the first time.
[02:28:16] Unknown:
Why does he look like he's reading a fucking newspaper?
[02:28:22] Unknown:
Ain't even fair. And just getting
[02:28:28] Unknown:
it.
[02:28:31] Unknown:
I'd go in Cincinnati. A
[02:28:58] Unknown:
Dude, I'll play you some RWBY next week, Tim. I will. I got you, buddy.
[02:29:12] Unknown:
Man, I got me a Martin guitar.
[02:33:21] Unknown:
So I guess we'll see you next week, guys.
[02:33:26] Unknown:
Yeah? Yeah. See you next Tuesday.
[02:33:30] Unknown:
Alright. See you next Tuesday.
[02:33:32] Unknown:
It'll be the big one.
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