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(00:02:17) Upcoming Debates and Events

(00:04:05) TED Talks or Chicken Soup Game

(00:13:13) Songwriting and Creative Misheard Lyrics

(00:22:23) Dynamics in Debate and Discussions

(00:36:02) Libertarian Politics and Campaigns

(00:47:48) Weird Local Weather

(01:06:37) Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Arguments

(01:24:31) IRL Third Eye Carnival and Save the Date

(01:50:31) Community and Social Gatherings

(02:09:02) Lack of Fluoride coverage

(02:18:01) Hollywood Esoteric Author Challenged to Debate

(02:31:27) Cultural and Social Commentary

Streaming Struggles and Shower Debts: A Podcast Adventure
TED Talks vs. Chicken Soup: A Game of Titles
Cryptocurrency, Cults, and Conspiracies: Unraveling the Threads
From Christian Music to Community Events: A Journey Through Sound
Fluoride, Freedom, and Federal Government: Navigating Modern Challenges


In this lively episode, we dive into the technicalities and quirks of live streaming platforms, particularly Rokfin, and the extra steps involved compared to StreamYard. We share some amusing anecdotes about past events, including a memorable shower experience at Flattoberfest and the humorous notion of being owed a shower by a friend. We also discuss upcoming debates and the unique laughter styles of our hosts.

We introduce a fun game involving TED Talk titles versus Chicken Soup for the Soul book titles, sparking a debate on the power of positive thinking and vulnerability. The conversation takes a humorous turn as we discuss the absurdity of some song lyrics and the unexpected themes in popular music.

The episode also touches on the challenges of organizing live events, the importance of melody in music, and the peculiarities of pet behavior.

 We look into the world of cryptocurrency, the dynamics of the Libertarian party, and the intriguing world of a new transhuman vegan cult leader called Ziz.

We explore the impact of Christian music on our lives, reminisce about past musical experiences, and discuss the cultural significance of various artists. The conversation shifts to the challenges of rural living, the quirks of local communities, and the importance of community events.

Finally, we discuss the ongoing debate about fluoridation, the impact of government policies on personal freedoms, and the importance of understanding the role of the federal government. We wrap up with a look at upcoming events and the importance of community building in today's world.

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You   win.  

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I do.   987,   Oh, wait. That was the wrong button.   Uh-huh. That's the right button. That's the right button. There's a button. Right there. There we go.   Yeah. No. So the Rockfin takes about fifteen to thirty five seconds once we go live before it picks up the stream, but we're live on Rockfin and cook it.  

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Perfect.  

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Talked about that on my show too that because Rockfin's got extra steps   that for whatever reason,   most of them can streamline with StreamYard,   where if you just hit the start button, it all takes care of itself.   Rockfin, you've gotta go into Rockfin   and do extra steps aft and it won't happen till your stream starts.   So there's no way to even do it  

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at the same time. That's why a lot of these live streams have   long intro videos or countdowns or something, some elevator music   while you wait.  

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Yeah.   And we got Christie Kringler already and Tony Coriolis.   Tony. Analog line. My wife says, Tony. She she she always had a special place.   We both do. Shower. We Tony let us shower   and, at the,   hurricane,   Flattoberfest   hurricane edition.   The day, baby.   Love seeing you, brother. Tim Timoney.   Love you too, brother. I too showered in that same shower. I liked the Marcus versus Marcus debate idea.   I agree with that comment. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that is we will have to get that scheduled.  

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So I guess what what we're saying is that Tony Coriolis owes me a shower.  

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That's what I'm hearing. I don't know. That is that is how that is. Yeah.  

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It's good.   So I got a little game with my hair.  

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We're gonna play a little game. So we have a couple of a really,   fun and interesting debates coming up this month.   We'll probably   discuss a little bit of that this evening.   And, no, Ben doesn't laugh from his soul, Dingo. He laughs from the bottom of his lungs where all of the collected shit is that he needs to cough out   resides until he coughs it out. That that's that's really where   that really where that comes from. So that's confirmed. Showering at Tony's house one day. Chicken soup for the soul. Gotta cough up those chicken bones.  

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Yeah. In private one time, Beth told me that, my show don't start the show isn't officially started till you hear me give a deep cough. Till the throat is cleared. Yeah. Yeah. I hack it out one good time.   I don't have the recall sponsorship.  

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Yeah. It's very important, especially in these dry times when your throat just feels real tight. Just,   crack open a Ricola. You'll feel alright.  

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Yeah. Our unofficial   sponsor.  

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Well, we we might get a new sponsor. It may be Chicken Soup for the Soul or TED Talks. I don't know. But that's the title. Apparently buy TED Talks right now. That's that's the title of the game I wanna play with you guys tonight. TED Talks title. If we do, can we play with  

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can we play with Dan Quayle like a pinata?  

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Yeah. You guys can figure out all the extra layers of complexity you wanna add to the game. I just have titles, and you tell me if it's I meant by TED Talks. Or a Chicken Soup for the Soul book. Okay.  

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If we buy Ted Talks, do we get to do we get to infinitely make fun of him? Well, do we have a sovereign fund set up?  

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We we don't have the kind of sovereign wealth fund that Trump and Howard Lutnick   created,   this past week. We we don't. Where Lutnick made a point to be like, hey.   If we give out   a whole bunch of mRNA products, we should be able to have   a guarantee of,   ROI on that. So,   and that was the specific example he used.  

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Sure. So with the power of positive thinking,   we can play this TED talk title or chicken soup for the soul book   game. That's the first one. The power of positive thinking is that,   chicken soup or a TED talk?  

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I I would go with both.  

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Is both an available answer? It it sounds it sounds like a c. I'm with Steve on this. It sounds like a both. Yeah. I think I think we'll just wait till the end of the test before we grade the the test. So the next one is the power of vulnerability.  

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Chicken soup.  

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I'm leaning chicken soup, but I think it's supposed to I think that's that's,   a little bit of of Alan Marcus trickery.  

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So I'm gonna go with TED Talk. He is he is a he is a a sneaky feller.  

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Yeah. Okay. Number three, my very good, very bad dog. Is this a TED Talk or a chicken soup title?   Woah.  

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I would go with chicken soup on that. Sure. So remember that the chicken soup  

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soul book series, chicken soup for the soul,   expanded in their later days and covered a lot of different souls, including animals souls and  

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Yeah.   You know, I wasn't that familiar   familiarized   with the chicken soup for the soul   series   to have known any of those facts or even what they were in the first place.   And so I'm just taking the name of it and and and guessing if that's some dumb shit that some people with the name of it. And I've seen plan I've seen TED Talks   about animals, like the lady that, the lady that we, interviewed with, the Weaving Spiders.   Yep.   She has a whole TED Talk about,   at the slaughter plants. I mean, that's the unfortunate side to it. This was all in benefit of the slaughter plant Yeah. Temple plant.   Severe problems   with the cows. It was   she took more of an idea of their mentality and changed the way they did things,   and then it took away their problems. So, I mean, I know those kind of things happen on TED Talks.  

I think, I think there is some trickery going on with this old   I agree. Alan Marcus is a is a trickster   figure, so   I'm gonna go with TED Talk on this one.  

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Another title. The cat really did that with the question mark at the end.  

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Shit.  

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That's a chicken I just feel like the same question again. It does. It does. It's the same question. It is. But but I   I'm almost positive  

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that's a a chicken soup for the soul. I I I'm gonna go with chicken soup on this one also.  

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What really matters at the end of life?  

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It's fifty fifty. It really is, man. I'm gonna go with TED Talk on this one.   And I even think I'm wrong, but I'm gonna go with TED Talk. Yeah. I gotta go with chicken soup.  

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Okay. Running for good.  

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That's gotta be chicken soup. I don't I think TED Talk.   You're like running, like, physically running, is that the question? Like, going out and jogging, is that good for you?   Judge the book by the time. They're they're, like, stating that as an affirmative   position that running is good for you because I don't see that The g in good is capitalized   running for Yeah. It's gotta be chicken too. It's gotta be chicken soup. Okay.  

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Robots with soul.  

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TED talk. TED talk.  

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The spirit of America.  

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Also TED Talks. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed.  

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Poetry that frees the soul.  

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Chicken soup.  

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Probably tricky. Probably trickery. Yeah. That that seems like it it might be   a   a   Like, you're setting us up on this one. Some shenanigans there. I think that might be a TED talk. And he's gonna be like, they're all TED talks, by the way. I just threw chicken soup for the soul at you in order to confuse you. That's that's what he's gonna say in about five minutes. Yeah. Life lessons from the dog.  

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Again, with the animal one, this is all the animal ones are basically the same thing. Mhmm. Life lessons from the dog.   It's it's gotta be a chicken soup.  

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See. No. I'm thinking that that's a TED talk that was given by Hitler's niece.   Making Ben spit take is my favorite part of this show, by the way. It really is. There is a title in my list here. It's how great leaders inspire action.  

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So I'll remind you, this is not, Hitler's speech titles. This is TED Talks I love that.  

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Or chicken soup for this whole book. Is this episode or what what do you want to hear about? It possibly is open to suggestions.  

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Yeah. I mean, you can suggest whatever you want. We're pretty much all anarchists here. Like, it's just up to us whether or not, you know Suggestive euphemistic titles. Encourage  

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clicks on the Internet.   Mhmm.   The power of vulnerability.  

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Yeah. California contrarian.   We had snow going on earlier, bro, even down in Garberville.   Like, fucking Garberville's, like, right next to the ocean and at sea level. My wife was up. There was snow in Ferndale, the whole nine. Oh, wow.   Yeah. On the ground, sit standing on the ground. On the ground, but it wasn't Rio Del. It wasn't Rio Del. Yeah. Like, which is literally right on the ocean. Higher in Oakland. Yeah.   Yeah. Look at that.  

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A little rain.  

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And   I got full load of driving drone in right now.  

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That's good. But  

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did you get in there? Yay. Thinking about topics. Okay. You're thinking about it. Alright. Alright. Okay. Well, although although to be fair, you you know, you're gonna be on a on a hit or miss also on whether we're gonna disagree or agree.   So unless it's something really fun what's up, Joshua?   Unless it's really fun,   we don't like, from the heart,   we are a lot of times or we don't always agree   by who the hell is calling me.  

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Sometimes sometimes we write the title of the book first, and then we figure out what the book is gonna say.  

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Ben's gotta handle a phone call. So Gotta call a friend.   He's phoning a friend about Ted Talker chicken soup for   the soul. He's got a ringer.  

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He does. He doesn't play fair, that baller. I have a chicken soup for the soul book on my shelf   near me. I know these were really, really popular, and I think both of these   sort of movements   kind of diluted their brand over time a little bit.  

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Mhmm.  

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So now this not for profit, which was originally purchased   by some guy,   is now decided after twenty five years. He's about ready to retire, and he wants to give it away.   But did you read the Wired article with the exclusive interview   with this guy, this British guy?  

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I I read,   I read the /..com   summary  

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this morning. Yeah. That's the   where that's where I found it too. And then, you know, I don't go to wired.com   every day, and I don't subscribe to the magazine anymore. I've got all the back issues from  

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years ago. Mhmm. Tony has watched,   Johnny Mnemonic now. Okay. We we need to, at some point, start a GoFundMe because,   Marcus   Allen has been   downloading information   for the entirety of his life, and now he's starting to run out. We need a doubler or something so we can upgrade the the hard drive and it's you know, it it put a little thing in it.   And then, you know, he can remember twice as much.  

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I constantly  

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be a fun debate right there, Tim Timoney.   Melody first, then the lyrics. I you know?   I just reignited   well, didn't reignite, but launched,   an affiliate chapter   of something called the fifty two week club.   And it's a songwriting experiment   where every week you get a word or a phrase or a topic, and then you have seven days to write a song about it. Then we all meet up again. We play what we wrote, and then we get another word, phrase, or topic, rinse and repeat   through fifty two weeks for as long as anybody's interested in doing it. It was conceived in 02/2006   at the Strawberry Music Festival.  

I was inducted in, like, 02/2009,   and I'm   trying to make that happen in the, you know, kind of sandbox that that we all play in.   And so sometimes it is melody first. Sometimes you've got,   a couple of lines or something like that   that serve as   the inspiration, and then you put melody to it.   But but I don't I don't think it it has to be one or the other necessarily.  

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No. I think that the song will never be a hit song if the melody isn't   hot. And so I think he's 100%   right, melody first. I'm not saying you have to do the melody first, but I'm saying in the order of what's important,   melody first. Because I'm gonna say flat out, most girls don't even hear the words.   Like,   straight up, they don't even know what the fucking song's about.   Like, they might do a couple parts of it. And and I only discovered this, like,   long ago when I was day when I when I was still dating.   I I dated this girl,   and she loved this game. And it was about eighties music,   and you did you'd say the words   the first couple words and then, you know, however many,   you know, you got so many points if you could do it off of, like, two or three words or whatever, and you can fill in the rest of the words.  

And   them girls never have any idea what's being said. And then what the best part, especially with her was, she, just like my wife,   didn't know that all these drop most of these songs are about either drugs   or sex. And if they're sex, it's typically with an underage   person.   While you're on drugs even. Yeah. While you're on drugs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   And and,   she's like and this other girl, like like,   when she's sitting there and she's, you know, like, wake wake me up before you go go was one of the was the first one I remember. She just like, what the fuck? Like, yeah. Yeah. You know, wake me up before you do cocaine because I don't wanna not do cocaine with you. Right. Right. I think that's the song.  

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And then if you're Wham   and George Michael, that also means putting on, like, tiny fake leather hot pants and going to an actual Go Go bar.  

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Which is what you would probably have anonymous bathroom what you wanna do after cocaine.  

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Yeah. Did you did you find that song that Gareth I talked about   earlier today and and the show was, he talked about Idlewild and was it Ronnie and Roddy and a Waverly Step?   No.  

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It was like he's got this he's got this English. He's speaking English, but it's Yeah. I can't feel my face when I'm with you. Yeah. I had no idea what that song's about.   So so And then all the songs about   about   having your way with a with a small young girl, you're like,   and then the same woman's completely against,   I   I,   you know, PDF   file type activity. You're like,   then why are you singing songs about it?   You weirdo.   Or, you   you remember that, Pumped Up Kick song? Mhmm. How does this song glorifying   serial killing   high school people   make it big?  

This is   so so I would say that, you know, the words,   you could almost in fact,   as my final point,   there's that fucking Italian dude that made a song and not a word in the song is real, but he thought the words sounded like American words. And it became a number one hit, and it's not real words in Italian nor English.   And it was a number one hit for an extended duration, and it's not even words. It's just gibberish because the dude thought it sounded like like   American.   Because American   was very popular in Italy at the time. And unless you actually spoke   English,   gibberish words are fine.  

Yeah. Like, all the people here, all the drunk white girls singing Mexican songs that don't that can't speak Spanish,   and they're just like and they just scream out certain parts of the song when they finally get to a part.   No idea why I'd use that one, Steve.  

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Shout out to Louis CK,   and Poohitang   real quick, by the way. That movie is fucking hilarious, and you have to watch it with English subtitles.   You do.   It only like, when you see the whole, like,   sign your pity on a run of kind. Like, that got like, then it just it helps make it make more sense even though it somehow makes less sense.   Yeah.   I do have the portion of the conversation,   the the dementia memory recall game pulled up.  

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I can't remember what Garris said. I do every show in, like, a fugue state. Right. Black and like, I don't I I don't know. That's why I wrote it down because I knew you weren't gonna remember, so I was gonna remind you of it. And there was that movie. What was it called? Awakenings   with Awakenings. I do remember that. Robert De Niro and Robert's,  

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Robin, I steal jokes, Williams. Yeah. Williams. Okay.   And I can't watch me and listen to me at the same time, and I can't be on screen with me. So I'm gonna go ahead and duck out, but let's see what Garrett's saying.   Because I know you've, like, you've only got about, like, twenty minutes or so left with this. And there's a game that I play   with first time guests   called the dementia   memory recall game because it's been proven that,   music,   if played for people in cognitive   decline, can, like, put them back into a place where they can access   more cognition, more memory, stuff like that. Okay. So let's say,   God forbid,   you wind up, you know,   in,   the old presenter's home with a case of the Joe Biden's. Alright? Right.  

Would you off the top of your head, song or two or three that you know if, yeah, somebody played it, you would then be able to access the, more cognition and more memory.  

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Oh, yeah.   A song called there's a song called Waverly Steps by a guy called Roddy Womble.   Mate, I need that tune.   I love that tune so much.   That's it.  

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There we have it. Do we do we wanna play the song? I'll get both of me off screen. That's so freaking weird.  

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Yeah.   Let's give it a little listen. Likes to do that. He goes back through his debates,   on screen and and critiques it, which I understand. But, yeah, he he does that, and then he's on screen talking and shit. Like, yeah, that that would weird me out  

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weird me out. I mean, according to every comic I've ever talked to, the only way that you can hone your bits is by doing that and by listening to yourself over and over.   I I can't work like that. I can't.  

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And I I I don't know about,   Sunsead,   but, Christy is fully fully in, agrees that we live in a completely feminized society, like, that she wouldn't even debate us against it.   When Marcus and I were at Flattoberfest,   I was on   a show.  

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Oh, shit. What's the name? You were you were the lone you were the lone   cock at the hen party. Right? Isn't that how that works?  

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Yeah. Yeah. I was. Yeah. I was. And, I asked the girls to come in and debate, but we really have a tough time getting people to come debate us. We we really do.   We've done we finally this month, guys,   got a exciting one coming for you.   Pass possibly,   Jay Dyer on   next Tuesday.   I personally would like to get some sparks flying with him. I've seen him,   debate some other,   I haven't seen another Germanic pagan debate,   from, like, five years ago, but the guy was very.   Very.   A bunch of his a bunch of what he thought was just not great,   which   is not great. Like, it's it's great for beginner. Like, I'm very positive about it because   of,   they're able to be in government institutions, like in the prison, in the military, things like that, and you need that kind of structure to be allowed to do that. But then at the but also you take most of the good stuff and spirituality   out of it as in order to put it in that line. Yeah. So,  

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and to answer Tim Timoney's question, yes. That's David Ike's son.   We had   a we had a fantastic conversation   the this morning. It it was cool. It was, you know, me and Gareth and Ryan Christian and then Chris, the rained out rancast popped in, like, towards the end of it.   And he hasn't been on   in a while, man. It's been a while. It's like the the last week,   both of AM Wake Up's former cohosts   have, like, crashed the show. Pasta did it on Thursday. We're having a conversation with Scott Armstrong.   Chris did it today.   I don't have any other former cohost, so it's probably what we're gonna get for the month. But   but they were both like, put me in, coach. Goddamn.  

What you doing?  

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No. You got that this one without me. No. You got what's her name the very first as long as we're talking about all those years ago,   your very first cohost,   didn't last very long.   She was she was a real awesome person,   Super well intentioned when she's got when she got her peak behind the behind the curtain, she was not happy. Yeah.   And and,   we have taken a side for me   to,   express while Steve was at our house.   He's been called out as a liar on the, affection of my of the dogs here. By my own girlfriend.   And the whole thing is is here, like, right now, watch us.   So so we and we will mind condensation from your breath?  

Yeah. It's it's that cold in this corner of the room, like, right standing next to the stove with this coat on. It's fucking freezing.   Yeah. And we're burning dry Madrone right now. I and so And it's snowing. Like, it's it's even my alpacas are hiding, which is very rare for them.   The, but,   one of the ways that you live through this is is, with with we have we have we don't have electric blankets because we don't have electric power, but we have pit bulls   that will come in and lay either if on top of you, if you will let them, makes it kinda hard to breathe.   You know, or they will wedge in next to you and, like, I have two of them that sleep with me, so I get the double wedge. And   then, also, cats will then start filling in the various spots of you that aren't moving and not covered.  

Mhmm.   So and then like us   specifically   will also   occasionally make sure that your ear is not getting dirty   while while you're there. Yeah.   You people collect ear stuffs while they're sleeping, and we make sure that that periodically is cleaned out.   In fact, today,   Tyr had to go to the vet. And when we, because he's had trouble peeing. I noticed Saturday,   he wasn't   and I thought it was pooping right, but then I really pay walked over and paid attention the next morning, and it was peeing. He wasn't peeing right.   And so we took him to the vet.  

And at first, when I called it in, the vet, they were scared. They're like, what breed is it? You know? It's it's pitbull.   They're like, you can hear them. They get, you know, all of a sudden, they get kinda weird about things, and then they're like and he's neutered. I'm like, no. Like, an unneutered pitbull?   Yeah. Yeah. That is that's tier. And then,   his dopey ass goes on in there, and it's like, everybody touch me. I'm here for you to give pets to. Like, you know, and then he does his our pit bulls, and Steve's does this too because it's one of tier sons.   They they do we call them pig bulls, and he does this just   snort that is so loud. All there's a bunch of people that have met him,   and his snort is so loud. It's like a chainsaw, and he's got this happy it sounds like a snore   snort thing, and the people in the back office were all just dying about it. They thought he was the greatest,   which he is, obviously.  



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Hope to get some fully sound designers out there to record those sounds.  

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But yeah. So the point of contention was when I was,   up up at the   up at the,   Chateau De Balderson,   week or two ago, couple of weeks ago,   the   when I got there,   even Christie was like, I'm a little nervous about letting McLick down   because he hates everybody   and just wants to run everyone off the property   and will viciously bark them out of the building   like a good dog. You know?   Josh.  

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He knows here.  

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And,   wait. It's an hour earlier now. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah.   But so   when I got there,   it it would like, all of them independently   of each other and multiple times at the same time proceeded   to,   become a moving weighted blanket on me   the entire time I was in the house   as long as I was in the house.   And my girl was like, no. You're just bragging. It's it's not so so if we could set the record straight on that.  

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Yeah. No. It's it's true story, and we were actually in shock because,   actually, when I leave the farm, I specifically leave McLicken's because he's such an asshole.   And I don't do that to not bring him in public. I do that. I want him to be that big of a dickhead because I don't want people messing with my wife. Right. And so I I leave the very aggressive, you're not comfortable being near my property   one. And   he was a pup when,   Steve stayed with me for a while when he was in a in a transition state.   Steve likes it spicy.  

And,   he is in a transition state.   And,   so, you know, which is that that's just mine and Steve's relationship, and he stayed for a while and that McLicken's a % remembered him. There was, like, zero doubt. Like,   immediately Steve came in the house. McLicken's was just like, I've never seen any him react like that. There's other people that he's met before   and stayed like we had this guy in this other,   farmhand stay for quite some time.   And,   he stayed with McClikens the whole flattoberfest,   the whole nine. And McClickens still just like, if he comes up and walks up, he's like, fuck off, dude. Get off this property. You leave now. And he'll just sit there, and he's never, like,   actually physically attacked anybody, but he'll get, like, two feet from you, stare you dead in the eye, and give you the most aggressive bark just over and over on repeat for ten minutes, twenty minutes, thirty minutes. How long you gonna stand here, bro, before you get the picture? I'm a keep doing it. And if you move, I'm gonna quick and he does this side hop, and he'll side hop in front of you. And then so that way you're still in front of him like, yeah, motherfucker. You ain't getting around me.  



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Yeah. Yeah. So what happened   when I got there   was he had a very different bark.   Very different bark.  

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The water? What was the Then when,  

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then when he got downstairs   and had the opportunity to, he was my lap dog there for a while.   Yeah. Whether I wanted him to be or not.   Yeah.  

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Your chaperone?  

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It was adorable,   man. So Mick Mick Lickens is Gomez's   they came out of the same they're from the same litter. Yeah.   And, yeah, we we were very good friends,   when I was there.   And,   apparently, that that stuck in his mind because he had, like, excited happy puppy yip instead of get the fuck up out of my house, you goddamn   transient bastard.  

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Is there some imprinting on the impressionable young dog mind? I think so. It really must have. And and I'm very, again, very shocked about it because   he's done he's met other people. Steve didn't it's not like Steve stayed for a year or something. He wasn't here that long. No. It was like four months.  

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Yeah. Yeah.   So are you like uncle Steve?   I guess. Yeah.   I guess.   Yeah. And it wasn't just Mick. Like, it was all it was all of them. You know what I mean? But but him in particular, he was   particularly lovey.   And he is a very, very loving you don't wind up with the name, McLickens,   by being, you know, a complete and total like, it's not like an ironic nickname,   like, tiny   for a giant dude or something like that. You know? It is because that's that's how he is. But   I guess only if it was,   you know,   Ben Christie,   and me,   and that's like it. Brian.  



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Yeah. Brian. Oh, yeah. Four people are the only four people in the world he gives two shits about at all. Anybody else, they can fuck off and leave. Mhmm.  

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Which is awesome. And it yeah. No. And it was great because I've known tears since he was like a pop.  

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Yep. Yep.   Yeah. He actually,   he met Tyr   when,   Tyr was, like,   almost almost exactly one year just just under a year old because   Tyr had gotten Scottie pregnant,   and he said just been born. Mhmm. And he met Issa right when Issa was just a pup.   And he couldn't take one then, and then we had one we called we called,   Gomez Brown Brown when Brett when he was a puppy because   so all my pit bulls have one blue eye and one,   well, three of them have one blue eye and one brown eye, and then McLickens and Freyja have more kind of a green eye Mhmm. And a blue eye. And   Brown Brown had a brown eye and a brown eye. And so he's brown brown.  



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Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah.  

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And then,  

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every time that Gomez smiled,   he looked like Raul Julia from the Addams family.  

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Mhmm.  

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Yeah. And so that was a big part of it. And then also,   Louis j Gomez,   when he fucking has a shit eating grin on his face, he looks exactly like a pit bull, which is extra ironic since he hates pit bulls.   But there was just it   like, the double Gomez ing in the naming of it, and I I was watching,   legionist ganks.   I don't know, man. Like, pretty regularly   back   then.  

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You talked about it a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Well, I was trying to bait Dave Smith into a show appearance,   And he went on with pasta on convo couch while we were doing the show in Vegas, but he wouldn't come on AM wake up.   People don't want to have a challenging   conversation.  

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They don't, man. That's that's things that make you go.  

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No.   And immediately after Dave Smith screwed over the entire   Libertarian party by backing out of running for, you know, being the the candidate for him,   and then Angela McCardell   sold the party to Donald Trump for Ross Ulbricht's freedom,   which, you know, might might have been a decent gamble.   Might have been a decent gamble.  

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I mean, what were they gonna get? 1%   of the vote if they did well?  

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Not with Chase Oliver. No.  

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We're gonna get half a percent of the vote. Dave Smith. Yeah. He's a a well known comedian,   well known in the libertarian communities,   done well in a few showings, like, against Cuomo.   Mhmm.   But at the end of the day, what what's he gonna pull? 1%?  

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Well, they probably they you know what? Here's the interesting thing. So at the time, the the theory was,   instead of Scott Horton   being the candidate, they were gonna leverage   Dave's close personal friendship with Rogan   because Dave had been on Rogan, like, five times already at that point.   And so they were going to try to to push out as much of the vote through that nexus   as they possibly could.   But then Dave's kid got sick, and he was like, I'm not gonna do this.  

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No. He's still a young guy.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I I don't I don't know. I would be   I would be surprised if he actually popped up as a a candidate  

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at this point. I mean, how how lucrative was it just to run as a a candidate in in the Libertarian Party or some third party, independent party just for the campaign fundraising?  

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Right. I mean, shoot, dude.   Bobby  

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Kennedy raked in It's it's probably better. $70,000,000.   If you don't win, because if you don't win, then you get to keep the the campaign funds, and you can do it again next year. But then you don't have to actually move to Washington or do any of the hard work.  

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Yeah. And   as long as,   you're not personally   personally holding the money and the party is, you don't have to personally pay taxes on it.   Okay.   And then you can just appear for speaking fees   from those campaign donations at every event   and be able to, like, wash that money that way.  

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Is that lasagna pizza?  

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No. It's homemade pizza.   My wife opened  

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them. My favorite things that my youngest kid ever came up with is when he was, like,   I don't know, six or seven.   He asked for   pizza   cake. Pizza cake. And he meant lasagna.  

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Pizza cake. Pizza cake. One.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You could do a pizza cake fundraiser   meal, and tickets would be per plate, and then would be what do you think? Couple grand?  

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Oh, yeah. Absolutely.  

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Did you Yeah. I was looking at the TED Talk prices   for attending   a TED Talk.   Have you seen the prices   and how they've gone up over there? Ridiculous.  

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Not since, like, 2010 because we almost went to one, and it was fucking $750   a ticket   fifteen years. Twenty ten? Yeah.  

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So for,   fifteen hundred seat theater in Vancouver, British Columbia   that sold out,   they were selling seats at,   almost $13,000   a pop.  

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That's insane.   And, When that one gets to NPR  

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liberals Well, right. And  

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feel like they're smart.  

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Mhmm. Well, sure. And then part of it too is   celebrities and and known   figures and authors and these types of people.   They probably   somehow have their ticket comped   just for them to appear   to then say   confirmed guests include   Sam Altman in the audience.   So real so, really, it's a big club clearly,   and we know we're not in it. But then the question of   the legacy   of the TED talk in the Joe Rogan   podcast era, it's like, is it still relevant? Is there still a brand?   And if it's a not for profit organization,   how what is being sold?  

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No. Access. That's what they're selling. Sure.  

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Yeah. Access.   And I've been a vegetarian   for   fifteen ish years.   Somewhere in there.   Quite a while. I was when Christy and I first met, we were both vegetarians,   and so that was honestly a   a plus   on the dating.   Since then, she's become a dirty dead animal eater, and I'm not sure about her anymore.  

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God bless you, Christy.  

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No. Great. It said since then,   trying to be a vegetarian for Christy actually cost her her health   quite a bit.   She's a and so   what we ended up figuring out   what and where we stand with it, and and I'm not a real big pusher of anything,   especially   diet wise   because I don't know what your body's doing, and human bodies are super complex.   But,   what we ended up doing figuring out,   diet wise was   that, the blood type diet   seems to be a   decent general guideline,   which isn't to say your specific body doesn't have different chemistries that have that blood type, but somehow are making it so it doesn't really fit in those.   At the end of the day,   Christy, her she started losing her hair. Her nails were, like, paper thin. She was losing her teeth,   real bad.  

And,   she went over, and she's a a o type. And so she started eating red meat. And even recently, she's,   switched over to a diet where she's not eating fruit or vegetables really at all and is only eating red meat,   for the most part. And she looks fucking hot.   And,   like myself,   when,   I,   like, I don't experience any of those problems that they talk about, like, where she did. Like, my nails, like, like, my my freaking my nails.   Like, that's yeah. You know?   There there's no thinness in my nails. I'm not, my I I I did I am losing my hair is thinning, and I'm losing that, but that has nothing to do with my diet.   Yeah. And all my teeth, my  

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my my girl's amazed at, like, how strong   the   fucking thick my fingernails are.   Yeah.   Yeah. Like, moderately  

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jealous from time to time. And do they grow quickly as well? Yeah. And thick and they grow quick.  

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And,   like a lot of the rest of me.   But, like, my thumbnails   in particular   will puncture a Coke can right now, and they're not even that big. Like, I I I just trimmed them a week ago.  

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And if I wanted to, I could poke a hole in a Coke can with them. That's what I'm saying. And the show I was on was the girls club number 11, heathen relationships,  

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philosophy, and history. It was a great time. I do have a copy of that audio. I can put it on our deliberating dog faced dudes   podcast feed. I can just hit the publish button. So after the stream, you'll be able to go back for that. Put that on there. It was a great show.  

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I   really enjoyed. Leslie was on one of our very first shows where we debated whether women should vote, and she came in as a guest.   John, who's not with us anymore,   not out of any animosity. He just had   other things he had to attend   and so which is completely understandable.  

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Mhmm.  

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Life happens.   And, so, you know, just like with,   Jim and Rachel, they haven't really came back into the podcast scene much yet either, but they just had a new baby. And the baby was, came early.   And now it's just gotten home, and they're trying to adjust to all of that.   And,   even Marcus and I have seen limited   videos or talk to them at all. You know, they're they're they're living life.   So that just happens, but, that we we were,   super lucky that Steve stepped in   right at the same time that this went on.   So super happy about that, but I don't know if,   but life just happens. Yeah.  



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Yeah. It's a weird old world. It really is.   It is. Not getting any less absurd   anytime soon either. It's very absurd.  

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And I know we the topic of food and diet always comes up in this issue of, you know, veganism or vegetarianism   is   is something I don't know that there's a debate to be had. It's like you gotta eat what your body needs.   The the debate might be, you know, the dangers of ideological   veganism.  

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And I will debate against that 100%.   Well, then then there's also another And and veganism is is in and of itself a problem in my opinion.   Like, that's not a sustainable   lifestyle.   Like, where   there's a bunch of things that you're missing that you have to supplement   unnaturally   in order to live that vegan lifestyle where mine,   I can live on my farm   indefinitely and get all the nutrients and all the things I need. I'm in very good health,   and   I got eight grandkids   running around, and I can still run around with them. So I'm doing alright.  

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Right. It's it's that ideological   veganism   specifically that   was sort of made fun of quite often. Like, how do you know a person's a vegan? They've they've already told you before they've told you their name type of a thing. Yeah.   Right.   So then in terms of veganism in the news, did you hear about some guy calling himself Ziz, z I z, Ziz?  

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No.   Look at this.  

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What's got got a breaking news weather report?  

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Shelter Cove.  

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Oh my goodness.  

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Wait. Wait. Is that   California?  

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Yeah. That's that's like ocean. Head. Yeah. They're on that's on the coast,   pretty much straight East of Redway.   Because they have it's groundhog there. West of of Redway. Redway. Yeah. Are there no groundhogs there?  

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No.   No. And if they were, they are hiding now. Mhmm. Holy smoke. That that's crazy. Like, that's not weather that we get. That's part of what we really enjoy about this area is   our our temperature range   in the winter.   It's right around 40 to 50 almost every day even in the worst parts of winter. And then in the summer,   it doesn't really get above 89.   It's a nice   temperate zone.   Oh,   this   is   cold.  

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No. No. I mean, it's yeah.   Shelter Cove is where we used to send   the fuck ups in Boulder Creek   when they fucked up too much to hang out in Boulder Creek.  

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I read a news story saying that El Salvador   was going to accept certain prisoners   from America.  

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Mhmm.   What they offered it, and it Right. It kinda looks like that's being worked out. Sure. Sure. Well, what Donald  

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the wall. Will you give us money? We'll go throw them in the hole over there.   We throw them food sometimes. There's there's interesting things  

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happening in El Salvador. You know, Bukele. Is that how you say his name? Bukele? Bukele?  

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Bukele.  

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Yeah. He   likes Bitcoin   or liked. I don't know if he still does and wanted to make it a currency. So it was an official currency. And then I think,   official   currency. And then I think, is there a there's a loan company or a loan organization that said, oh, you guys might need some actual,   money, some currency.   Was it the IMF?   Comes along and says, well, you know what?   We don't like the Bitcoin thing, so you're gonna have to make that not a currency   to receive our loan.   But is is there an economic hitman   who would leak some documents and then tell us about the IMF?  

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That'd be neat.   That'd be neat. I mean, you know,   John Perkins is still running around. Okay. The guy who's running around both confessions. Yeah. It's like a recipe. You just   But it hasn't the Perkins books haven't been updated to include the cryptocurrency   era. So that would be a fresh take   on economic hitman.   Sure. The I you know, very few people outside   of,   Mark Goodwin   from Bitcoin mag the editor of Bitcoin magazine   has, like, dared to even broach the subject of   because everybody's,   everybody's bullish,   and everybody wants to be a whale.  

So they don't wanna   shit talk the coin   because   they then they might fall out of favor in the space and not be able to enjoy as much of   the, you know, now hundred and $3,000   of Bitcoin   revenue   that they've been getting for pushing it for the last, yeah, anywhere from, you know, five to fifteen years.  

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So any sort   of questioning   of the legitimacy   of Bitcoin or the cryptocurrencies   could   make you not get invited to certain Bitcoin conferences?  

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Yeah. Absolutely. And have people not, you know, pay in Bitcoin to subscribe to your podcast or magazine or whatever it is that you're putting out. Yeah.   Oh.   Oh, it's funny.  

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Accidental   alchemist also is doing that. She's an old blood type like my wife, and well, she's an old negative. My wife's positive. But,   she got no monkey in her.   Accidental alchemist doesn't, but she's I think you probably enjoy it. She says she's been call it's been calling to her for a while. It, when Christie first did it, it was really crazy. You could see, like, outer nails. It'd be all paper thin   at the bat at the front, and then the back was all, like, so much thicker.   And then her hair started looking scraggly at the ends, but then thick around her skull, and that grew out.   And   she had to keep cutting the scraggles off. Mhmm.  

Like, I have to keep throwing these scraggles off. Here's the scraggle in this instance.   Yeah. No. I'm talking to you. Talking to you. This is the part of the show where we say,   free cats.   Spookums.   Free cats. Spookums.   Just not that one. No. This one's not Spookums.   No. We're calling for the one of the we got four black cats now. They're all kinda Spookums, though. We just got we just started calling them the same thing.  

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If they look at different word in case you're curious. It's a different word. But  

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Oh, dude. It cracks us up. My wife is like   if you were to call her anything, like, her her funny nickname for me would be like, hay pockets.   And, you know, because I always have hay and cigarette butts in my pockets.   And and mine for her would be accidental racist   because she says the most accidental   racist shit regularly. It's fucking hilarious.   And she's not she's not at all, but she's like, yeah, she's like that very,   you know, one of the people that says shit and doesn't realize what she just said and just, you know, like,  

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Mhmm. No. That I saw,   there were a couple of prompts up here about and I don't   are you talking about, like, r?  

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It's like a HP Lovecraft   cat name.  

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Rutt Row Races Rose, an open call evening that you share,   prior   currently, that you share your prior or current racism,   whether you're trying to continue being or not and welcome Collins from your friends. I don't know   I don't know if you know this or not.   Only ever. But every time we get together, it's kind of a celebration   of our hilarious,   highly inoffensive,   and classically casual racism.   It it really is. It really   is. And, I I'm I'm feeling pretty good about that.   It's so bad about that. If you've ever watched our show blunt force wisdom that we do on Monday nights,   It's an anti feminist   who looks like   she's a progressive   green haired   freaking,   you know, nightmare.  

And she's not.   And then,   another highly anti feminist   country as fuck black chick, and that's the show.   And I am   I am probably the least racist person on that show.   In fact, I think   we could unequivocally say that I'm the least racist person,   on that show.   Stop.  

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Go away, spookums.  

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Yeah.   We did call for spookums. So  

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Shug is adorable. She is. She is. She's freaking hilarious too. Teal's funny as fuck too.   Yeah. And messy.   Definitely messy.  

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But, yeah. Who comes who   comes in for anybody that has that like this? He's a little.  

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Little man.  

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He's looking at my pizza intently right now.   Go. Put Spook comes outside.  

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McLick is.   Hey, Gomez. Come here.   Your brother's on screen. Come here.   Look. It's your brother. Don't look at my food. Look at your brother.  

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Exactly.  

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I hear you, Chris. I hear you, bro. They're doing the exact same shit right now too. That's hilarious.   Okay. Come on. We're gonna talk to you. Over there? No. Not yours. Not   yours. I know. I know. I'm gonna go feed you when we're done.  

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See these ones over here?   That's right. His got two brown eyes where   Lucas has got to one blue eye, and then this one's green.   The the irises.  

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Like, shiny marbles.   Do you ever collect those cat's eye marbles?  

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Yeah. Yeah. I am old enough that,   we definitely played marbles when I was a kid.   In cat's eyes were some of the were   probably the favorites,   except for,   like, you you love hated steelies also. Some dickwad would show up with them, and then it's like, you're just gonna break my marbles.  

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Mhmm. Did you put them in slingshots?  

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No.  

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I don't know. Can you buy slingshots  

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anywhere? Yeah. You can still go to Ace Hardware anywhere in the country and get yourself a wrist rocket, and then you can walk down two aisles and grab a box of ball bearings. Okay.  

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Yeah. Yeah. So, like, BBs and pellets and things.   Mhmm.  

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No. No. I have BBs at all.  

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No. No.   Like, a BB on steroids.   And then thing.  

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This will actually   cause problems.  

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They advertise like a a nonlethal   shotgun.   I think it it shoots like bean backgrounds and stuff like that   on, Glenn Beck show.   And,   so if you happen to be,   a felon,   you can still own this gun.   Because it shoots it it it only shoots NLRs. You can you can register your Nerf or nothing gun. Yeah. With the government.  

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Yeah. Yeah. I've seen guys get shot with those.  

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Looks like they don't they don't like it. No.  

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They'll sit you down. Real tough dude's fold under that. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Yeah. That that'll make you sit down for a sec. It will.  

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Yeah. I seen a dude that went through all all three levels of, mace, and he was doing push ups while he was getting the the the worst level of mace.   And then so they're just like, alright then. And they just came in with the beanbag guns, and you betcha.  

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Mhmm. And I was like, no. I'm done. I'm done. Yeah. I'm done fucking Yeah. Beanbag round to the solar plexus is gonna take most of the fight out of you.   It really is. Second   coming at you.   Is  

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this   an okay time to talk about,   hog?  

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Hog. Oh, David?   David. Is he here? Oh my god. Is he sitting on a DNC trip? I I wasn't even necessarily gonna go political because it's too much right now. Like, every avenue.   Mhmm. Like, holy shit. It it the DNC is like the DNC is like, you know what? We gotta get in touch with one young people. You know who could be our representative?   That David Hobb kid. Kids love him.   Like, what the fuck are you talking about? What is that even what are you doing?   The weird dude hiding under a desk dying for attention?  

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So he's one of three   now   vice chairs before the DNC.  

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So he's 33%  

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able to sit on that chair? He's a a yeah. He's he's 33%   of a vice chair.   But that's okay because he's really only, like, 33%,   of a grown man. So, you know, he's got a long way to go. He does. Maybe one day. Maybe one day.   But, yeah,   we played a couple of the clips, of the DNC convention.   I don't know. Maybe   yesterday.   And it's just an exercise   in   who can be the most out of touch   and   who can, like, ensure   that the Democrats   continue   America's   great slide into   mediocric   obscurity.  

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Did David Hogg do a TED talk? I mean, he was doing some speaking engagements, was he, at some point?   I don't know if he had a huge demand or if they were just filling a bill to to have some people talking.   But for him to show up, I I don't know.  

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I don't know.  

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It's hard to follow what's really going on. And if this is just, like, a trolling effort.  

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No, man. These guys, they're they're a %   about optics, and they don't understand   optics. For, like, people who are that tied into Hollywood and shit like that, maybe that's why they're so out of touch.   Mhmm.  

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But the their marketing your outfits from people that have managed to tank an entire industry over the last ten years. Yeah. And then and then now   have have moved on to, like, shit, like, not have these women CEOs, so they've moved on to shit like the video game industry and completely tanking that shit too. My motherfuckers are ready to go back to play a Nintendo sixty fours.  

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Yeah. There's there's a   a huge story developing around   a cult of   personality, some guy calling himself   z I z, like, ziz or ziz,   who is promoting a form of radical veganism,   but that's not the weirdest thing they're into.   Do you guys have any idea about this rationalist death cult? I I don't. This is the first I'm hearing about. It's fucking,  

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Santos Bonacci part of this cult.  

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He's probably somewhere connected to this.   So,  

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again, I'm I mean, we'll we'll take a look. Right?  

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You can just look at the guy's eyes and and tell me just are these the eyes of a   of a vegan?  

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Oh, perhaps. That is an intensity   right there.  

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He's he's been doing the the   they call it mewing or mowing with the the jaw. He's got a very strong   I'm I'm I'm getting ahead of myself, and I'm assuming gender here.  

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This this cult is very Vallejo. I get, like, right across the bridge, man.  

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Right. Right. So this more and more information is coming out about these guys, not because it was hidden.   They all have blogs and posts, and it's all in a trail of records of all their their IDs and and things. But public awareness is   starting to focus on this the strange Zizzians or the Zizzians.   And there's an element of, like, transcendental   sword.  

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How's that suck? You go to get rent and somebody samurai swords you?  

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Yes.   Yes. There there is a very cinematic universe   in their minds where they are the the lead characters of these movies and running on a samurai sword and using them as murder weapons. That is definitely a way to   to get some headlines   and some attention.   But more and more,   the the strange   cult like techniques  

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that they've probably gotten by just reading forums and being immersed in a culture. Presume because in California, they get real crazy about if you have a gun and you have weed.   So they're probably growing weed. That's why they're running around samurai swords instead of, like, a gun like an adult. There's some extreme libertarianism  

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in in these guys, and I don't really know who's the actual founder, who who's the leader,  

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but there's sort of this I'm just saying that's a thing out here in these areas, like, what they're talking about. All these people in that live in these areas, that's the only thing that they do is grow weed and and then pawn   stuff that they steal off other people's properties. Those are the two jobs that you find out in these areas like that. Mhmm.   If you're not doing one, you're doing the other.  

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Right.   Yeah. This extreme   online   community   of,   disgruntled   people who are   groomed to then join these cults, and   they have this sort of idea about sleeping   with your brain and using half of your brain for sleeping and the other half for being   programmed in the cult. So they they know some of these techniques to really  

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encourage people to go deeper and deeper and deeper into They're doing that shit where you listen to shit in your sleep so that way it sets in subconsciously?  

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It's the unihemispheric   sleep patterns that they've   really,   pioneered, I suppose.  

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Apollo   Mohammed  

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name, Who's the fuck's name, Apollo Mohammed?  

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There is so many weird details, and it's outside the scope of what we can cover tonight, but I just wanna bring some attention to it  

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in terms of dig into it on the on the show this week for sure.  

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Yeah. There's Who are we even picking in a who are we even picking a fight with that's gonna talk about this shit, Marcus?   Who's into this? Do you know?   Who tied Who would defend it or who have to keep fighting. Who's gonna who's gonna take the affirmative on this shit?  

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Sometimes there's no debate. There's there's just weird characters   and interesting characters,   and then there's people that cross the line and murder people. And at that point  

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picking fights. Who you picking a fight with here?  

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There's  

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gotta be someone who would defend these people as brilliant artists. We're gonna have to chalk this one up with you trying to pick a fight with the Crowley people   that you've been trying to fight with.   A   a proper Thelemite?   Yeah. You've been trying to pick a fight with Thelemites for, like, since I've known you.  

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The Thelemites seem to fight amongst themselves.   We were just trying to find one to explain Thelema to us to then have another   Thelema Thelema might listen and say, no. That person's wrong. And then we just have,   a content mill of of free content because he just   it   would never end.  

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Oh, fuck.  

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Oh, fuck. So after next week is   if Jay Dyer, we're getting confirmation on that, comes in.   We,   after that, we have the Jaren   debate.   I know that,   everybody in the community on mine and Marcus's side, maybe not as much on,   Steve's side are are all super happy with Jaren right now and and love him. I know that's going.   So that should be,   but there there's, there's probably gonna be people cheering for his his,   for   him to bleed. Like,   hey. Oh, man.   But,  

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and then could be a comeback. It could be a career changer. It could cause him to go in a new direction and remain victorious in   in a debate. There's always that possibility.   It has  

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been chomping at the bit on that one so badly. I'm not sure if I'm not gonna have to step back.   Let's roll with them. It  

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it hurts to have to even talk about this topic.   It stings,   but there's there is there is poison in this that we need to purge.  

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Yeah. You get the poison out?  

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Yeah.  

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It is definitely,   one of the things I find surprising that the truth community bit into myself.   Mhmm.   For people that ran around to run yelling about how fiat money is fake,   then they go and double that. And then to go jump on to Bitcoin, which is   at least with a dollar, you have, like, a a dollar.   Like,   you know, there's something to hold. Bitcoin, you just you just   seriously got nothing   backed by nothing, nothing to hold, nothing to anything.   And they've made just this,   very   etheric   wealth   system   that has no accountability   to it. Like, that is may have accountability  

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coming if senator Bill Hagerty   introduces any legislation   into   anywhere.  

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They keep talking about Anyways, we got tax coming.  

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Oh, yeah. There's there's a lot of  

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coming.   Like I said, Marcus is so, I've never seen Marcus quite so chompy at the bid on anything. He's I might have to step back and moderate on this. I'm trying to be modest. I'm trying to   guy team and I know Jaren can definitely do a two on one. If anybody wants somebody to come in and knows somebody to come in and   tag team with Jaren,  

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On the topic of crypto  

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three on one in, though, then it starts looking like something off a Horny Hubs.  

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Sure. So to be clear,   there aren't a whole lot of outspoken people who want to point out   flaws within the ecosystem   of cryptocurrency   at large.   There's a lot of nuance in terms of Bitcoin maximalism or a new favorite coin,   whatever.   We just wanna have that conversation and see where it goes.   Yeah. See if any good comes out of that conversation.  

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It's, not Garand. It's Jeran, j e r a n.   He's very, famous in the flat earth community. He's also a Bitcoin proponent.   He, recently   went to Antarctica and did some experiments.   Some people are not happy with what he's reporting as his results.   And by some, I mean,   shit ton.   Like, they're angry.   Big mad.   Big   mad.   But I   he's a he's a,   very well known figure. He's a big Bitcoin proponent   and is knows a lot about it, is invested in it for   a substantial amount of years.   Yeah. He did go. And and then, you know, said and the thing is is,   whether he thinks that that he doesn't he said that doesn't necessarily make the earth the shape that they're saying.  

But,   he went, and when he saw something count counter to what he thought, he said, okay. Well, that's that's not what I thought it was gonna be and is now now   rethinking,   you know, what I don't know where he's gonna land on it, or I don't know. Maybe he's already landed somewhere on it. Him and I didn't talk about that.   But,   you know, he,   is rethinking it, and the fact is is I don't know how you can fault a guy for that. I don't even understand how like, I I never fully I I always came out and I even at events, I've said I'm a Cog McKeague guy. I don't understand how they their their model always had Polaris at the top, but the Southern hemisphere has has a has a piece also.   And so those two at the very least   and bottom, but that's that's not how I'm seeing it. I still think that it has a possibility   only with, like, either a concave or a convexness.  

And then   Polaris and,   Sigma being side more side by side.   Instead of thinking of them tricking us, I think maybe it's a trick that is going this way and it's going this way and that the sun and there's already a lot of information saying the sun doesn't have an actual physicality to it and then it's a reaction coming off the firmament.   And so if Sigma and Polaris   then are, acting as like   an axis,   and then the   the, basically, Niflheim and Muspelheim would be above us and below us, but we wouldn't really be able to interact with them. But where that energy is interacting with   the,   firmament,   that's where we're getting something. Just like this you can't see   light in space   because   the light needs things to react off of in order to be seen.  

And so   that's what's creating the reactions. We already kinda understand that that's what's going on with the sun anyways a little bit.   Anyways,   that's not something I'm trying to debate in any way, shape, or form or or anything like that.   But,   we're gonna debate Bitcoin.   And   I'm not by we, I'm not sure who the we is gonna be. Like I said, Marcus, who's normally   prefers to take the moderator position and has pretty much put himself into that,   and he is chomping the  

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I'm I mean, I'll moderate for that one too. I can   you know? But  

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You might have to because I'm not gonna argue with Emily Moyer. I'm definitely moderating,  

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the week after. Okay. Yeah. No. I'll I'll I'll draw this off because I'm and then I'll just spend the week sending Marcus all of the,  

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Cheat notes. Argumentation   that that I would have used for that one. Sure. I mean, that's that's part of preparing for the debate is understand the nuance in the conversation. There's a lot of   a lot of a lot of nuance as to, you know, we didn't even know what a Bitcoin was until  

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someone told us, and that's gonna be that'll that'll be an argument. If Jay comes next week, do you wanna moderate, Marcus, or are you moderating, Steve?  

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For the Jay thing?   Yeah.  

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I don't know I don't know if you've had a bone to pick with him or not. No. I mean, not really, man. He yeah. I mean, we're kind of friends, which, you know, to you.  

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There there there's points of contention   that, you know, we have, and there's stuff that we definitely don't agree with. And,  

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I I think some of the moves that you made don't mean we we wanna pick on with each other. You know?  

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No. There's there's some shit that he's done outside of the the,   you know, what happens on camera that I definitely don't agree with, but it that's   I I also I'm a fucking pirate.   Like,   if somebody else is a pirate, I can't really, like, fully hate an another  

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pirate. You know what I mean? So I am not a pirate,   and I do have that. I'm not that's not what I'm gonna try and argue with them about, but I do have that bone of contention because I personally am not a pirate, and I am personal friends with that other person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Like, have eaten No. And that's what like, and that's the biggest thing that that honestly, like, I I take issue  

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with him for other than that, to me, you know, he's a fucking podcast bro   who needs to douche it up a little extra hard   in order to maintain an audience in the info warspace and stuff like that. So he's really gotta lean into   the the Chad level douche baggery   for   in order to maintain   the   the lifestyle that he's become accustomed to.   And so, like, that, you know, like, all of that shit we can senior.   This is Bates Wilkins. All that shit we can, like, you know, we we could debate and find things to   to argue about and stuff. And, like, when he comes on AM wake up, you know, we definitely don't agree about everything that we talk about when he's been on that show.   But, you know,   we we also haven't,   like,   truly   butted heads   and definitely not   online.  

He lives right by where we're throwing our music festival   and Third Eye Carnival thing.   But I didn't extend an offer to him to be one of the live podcast panelists,   you know, just because I don't want that part of the Internet to invade   what what we're trying to do with the carnival.  

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Yeah. Yeah. %.  

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I'd rather have I'd rather have a bunch of   a whole bunch of.   You know what I mean?   As opposed to Jay Dyer, Chad Dubrows.  

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Yeah. The   are a good crew that that has on a whole.   Mhmm. You know, there are the exceptions that are, you know, super crazed with shit,   but on a whole,   nice guys. A lot of the guys that walked out the flashlights right there. A lot of the guys that walked away from it, but still kind of maintained the structure of it and maintained the relationships   that they developed in it,   like,   Billing Tannell.   He needs to be a bear.   Real good crew of guys.   And I'm not against everything Owen represents.  

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I mean, you know, at the end of the day, the guy's a Hollywood guy. So, you know, it was always When I was staying with you, you were on the the phone with him three types of three times a week because he was calling you with goat questions.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Malpacas and stuff. Yeah.   The the and and he you know, the guy the guy   you know, we had it out. You know, I disapproved to some of his behaviors.   But you know what? I'm an actual hard ass country dude. Like, straight up. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that guy is a a a a legitimate.   His parents are both,   highly educated. He grew up in an entirely different environment.   And so the the way that they act, the the the codes of conduct   for you are more malleable than they are for me. And   so, you know, but on the general, I don't it's not   his general message, I don't disagree with. I think he's a bit wackadoo on some shit. He gets a bit too bad he gets a bit too bombastic for me, but just like you were just talking about with Jay Dyer,   only the bombastic people,   keep the big enough crowd to make enough money. If you want to to stand out, you've gotta be wild. That's just all there to it. You know, Ben Stein,   you know   Alex Stein.  

No. Ben Stein was standout because   he was so   not, you know, but other than that, you're all current. Just blah, guy. You were talking about bombastic douchebags, and so I immediately thought I was He's the only one on the opposite end, and he was so far   just so monotone.   But other than that, if you're   if you're   not stand out, you ain't making it. The guys who make it big in entertainment,   the low level guys are 10 times more standout, 10 times more bombastic   than any of the rest of you ever imagined being like, yeah, I was wild back in the day, not compared to these guys. Like, Alex Stein,   now that Steve brought him up, is a perfect example. Like, he's up there wearing a woman's,   bathing suit with a rubber ducky thing around him, singing a song about putting a bullet in Putin's head   and, you know, at an actual city council and recording himself do it or having his friends record him doing it in order to   obtain the level of   notoriety   that he obtained.  



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Like, I'm not willing to debase myself like that. Yeah. No. The whole culture jamming thing kinda crazy to me. One of the comics   at the Third Eye Carnival Nashville   does some of the culture jamming stuff. He went to,   some democrat sponsored event in Atlanta   in   a pink wig with a ball gag and was trying to, like,   interview people   with the fucking ball gag in his mouth. It's like the conversation is,   and you've got some well meaning liberal fucking moron   trying to play along   because he's out there in a white dudes for Harris shirt. Because liberals don't kink shame.  

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See, and I'm not against even the bombastic guys. You know, I'm just not one of them. Yeah. No. I love why I would say that's fucking  

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like great, man, and he's goddamn hilarious. I just can't   I can't do that. I don't have that kind of shit in me. I I don't.   I I grew up with a father who loved me and an older brother who was a decent role model. And you got all the attention you needed. You know   what I mean?   But yeah. And then yeah. And shout out to Brad because, you know, he's one of those people who's   really gonna fucking put it all out there   for the love of the game.   And somebody in the, Coherent's   victorious assault.   So the event   is the Third Eye Carnival Nashville,   April fourth through sixth   in,   we're calling it Third Eye Nashville. It takes place a little bit outside   in a town called Portland where,   on,   this this lady, Teresa's farm.  

It's an 18 acre property.   She's got a big ass barn that she built a stage into that has an actual legitimate green room in it.   There's,   like, church pews in it right now   because she does, like, a cowboy church thing, and she hosts weddings there and stuff like that.   The side doors of the barn open up, and we can fit close to a 40   people in the barn.   Hold   on.   Okay. So let me tell you about the fucking hold down.   Friday night, April fourth is a co birthday celebration   that Ryan Christian, the last American vagabond, and I have been threatening for five years at this point. We were born a day apart.   He's a little bit younger than me, but we're born a day apart. And so we've been threatening a co birthday get together for a while.  

Both of us play music.   We've got a number of friends in, like, the podcaster community   that also play music.   So   we've been trying to conceive   of an excuse to do, like, Willie Nelson's birthday,   where you just get, you know, a bunch of your musician friends together.   Everybody gets hired in a Christmas moon, and we freaking jam out for several hours.   So that Friday night,   it's, you know,   me, Ryan,   Scotty Armstrong,   Frank Kavanaugh,   who used to play bass in the band Filter   back in the day.   Let's see. Gene Owens from Faithless Town.   The   number of other people, Jay Sanders from Florida Action Network.  

We're we're all just gonna kinda fucking pile in. And,   Spiderland who performed at Third Eye Carnival in Pueblo last year, they're gonna be out there.   So they'll probably be, like, at least two or three,   you know, solo performance sets, and then we're all gonna get up and   rock out together and all that kind of stuff.   Saturday   is live podcast panels and live stand up comedy   with, the aforementioned   Brad Binkley   and then Leonardo Joanie, who has been making a pretty big splash over the last year or so.   And, Sam Tripoli is gonna headline. There's a couple other comics that we're talking to right now. We're trying to sort it out. We may have more comics   on Saturday. Teresa holds cowboy church every Sunday morning, so that's gonna open Sunday morning. We'll do a couple of more panels, and then we gotta start cleaning up and getting everybody out of there.  

But,   you know,   you can camp on the property.   We will have facilities for you.   There will be food.   There will be the ability to shower.   And then, yeah, two nights, three days.   You can camp if you want to. If you wanna grab a hotel, there's one like a mile and a half up the road that has a group discount for Teresa's Farm because she's thrown a number of events there in the past. So they have a a a working,   relationship with her. It's thirty five minutes away from Nashville. If you wanted to stay in Nashville,   you could easily do that.  

The ticket price for the entire fucking weekend and all of the living fucking legends   that I just mentioned, $90.   Yeah. Raise your eyebrows a little bit higher because that's a screaming fucking deal. It is. TED Talks, could you?   Right?  

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That's   crazy screaming deal considering   half the truth community   has switched over to fucking   $1,502,000  

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ramping events. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. So we're not doing that. I have a blue collar audience.   Yeah. I'm a freaking   mountain Billy.   You know? I like, I couldn't afford to go to my own show   if I was charging a hundred and $50 for the weekend.   Right.   So Scott Armstrong and I held pretty firm   on the ticket price and making sure that it was under a hundred bucks. And, again, you get   all kinds of really cool shit,   and you can camp out on a beautiful 18 acre property that has 10 separate bonfire pits. They're gonna be going.   It it's gonna be raging.  

So if you can get there, get there, I'll drop the  

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and   you got   Steven some music,   shit is gonna happen.   Yeah. Black helicopters   will show up, but just ignore that.  

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Just because that happens every time we hang out.   Oh, I guess it's you and I?   Specifically me and you. Yeah.  

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Training   exercises. We're gonna blame Christie on this one.  

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Mhmm.   So this is an April event that you're talking about. I know we've talked about a July event that's a a separate event.  

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Yeah. That's the third eye carnival in Pueblo. So my whole idea with this thing   is that,   it's vital for us to get together in three dimensions so that we can realize that we're not just wandering out here in the wilderness by ourselves. It's a great way   to help build community network.   Feel a little bit better about where where you have to go back to because you know you have   a a community.   And   the it's the third eye carnival is an art form plus, you know, live conversations about real shit,   and then some some silly games. And that's a third eye carnival. So it's designed to be replicated,   not scaled,   and we can do these in basically   every   blue collar town in the country and then maybe a couple of, like,   you know,   outside of   some major cities. So, it happens in an art gallery in Pueblo called the Blowback.  

Fourth of July weekend   and, actually, Friday night,   for Third Eye Pueblo this year will be fourth of July, which means we're also gonna go up on the roof and shoot off a bunch of buck fireworks.   And that'll be fun.   And Third Eye Pueblo is Oh, I don't know?   Yeah. In Pueblo. Yeah.  

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They go off, dude. Nothing to burn down there. Nope.  

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Not a damn thing.   They go off in Pueblo. We were there   on July 4 last year because I think we landed either that morning or the night before   to get ready for the weekend.   And, raw, it sounded like downtown Oakland after the Raiders won the Super Bowl for eight straight hours.  

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So  

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I'm bringing it It was impressive.   It was impressive.   Yeah.  

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Wow.   Is there events to look forward to? April So and July events. April,  

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July fourth through sixth.   We're trying to pull something together on the West Coast. I need to   the problem with doing a a festival like this in California is that it costs a lot of fucking money,   and we don't have a lot of money.  

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So nobody with a farm.  

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Yeah. Yeah. But that person with a farm lives, like, three hours away from any major airport minimum.   And so when people come to visit, that's kind of a kind of something we have to consider.  

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Yeah.  

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But I would love to do I I would love to throw one on your property, dude. I would. I would. That'd be fantastic.  

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Trip number one zero one's nice.  

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Yep.  

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When it's open.  

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Carpooling with the crew.  

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Yep.   And then as as we as we get these traps.   As we get closer to the Pueblo event,   I'll have,   you know,   a couple of different websites that you can go to.   But for   now,   I'll put the the ticket link   in the YouTube chat for Third Eye Nashville.   We'll we'll create,   a whole thing for   Third Eye Pueblo,   when it gets closer.   But it's like me and two other people putting all of this stuff together,   and everybody's   getting pulled in a billion different directions all day every day.   So,   and we're working we're working on a budget of maybe somebody will be nice and cover the cost of the comics.   Thank you, Tony Orterburn and WiseWolf Gold. You know, maybe somebody will be nice and cover the porta potties. Thank you, tinfoil hat girl. All of the ticket sales and all that stuff is gonna pay off what we have to,   what we're renting the property for,   and the,  

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the insurance policy that we have to carry on. Asking  

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for the web page?   Asking for the web page.  

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We'll put it in the chat and in the descriptions after as well. We'll get that information out.  

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Oh, I feel like a hurricane in 2024.  

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You know, if you've done well in cryptocurrency   and you need to get rid of some of that,   sin that you've, obtained by gambling, you know,   I guess there's probably   methods   of donating with that. Are we are we are you anyone accepting cryptocurrency payments  

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for sponsorships? He asked about shrooms. Oh, he was asked about shrooms also.  

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I'd yeah. I will accept cryptocurrency   for and it it immediately gets converted into fiat because I can't hang on to it because I got bills and kids and shit like that. What about cats? Do you accept cats? We don't have enough cats yet, but we're we're not in a position   at the moment   to adopt a kitty. Otherwise, I would have brought one home. I kept threatening my girl to bring one home when I was up there, and she was like, dude, yes, but don't because I'll fucking I can't.  

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They're still they aren't scared of dogs, so it's perfect. They aren't scared of dogs at all. They don't give two fucks about pitbull.  

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They're all Yeah. No. Tinfoil Hat Girl is an absolute baller. She's a holistic dentist   in her her real life, in her, you know,   and works with almost exclusively.   Yeah. She takes the whole tooth. Not just the cavities.  

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Not not just the root of the cows.  

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No. But she she works primarily with, like, low income people and then has a couple of wealthy hippies,   in South Texas that exclusively   go to her that she can charge actual dentist prices for. Could we have her on for a debate about  

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dentistry?   Maybe. Okay.  

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I don't know if she's Do you have some   burning,   issues with the, field of dentistry and their procedures, Marcus?   Private And, you know, you never know, Marcus. The guy again, he's Johnny Mnemonic over here. We need to get the guy a brain doubler.   Yeah. And then then he can continue consuming all possible data that gets, you know Mhmm.   There there are some Nice. Still watching VHS is for you, PayPal.  

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And then also, we'll be live streaming this stuff too. So if you can't make it out, you'll there'll be a way for you to to hang out and watch it, and we're not gonna put that behind the paywall because I refuse to put anything behind the paywall.  

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Also, if you get a cat,   just get just get a cat. This one's.  

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For god's sake, get a cat.  

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Because all and the more of you that do that, the more connected that is. It's almost like you're there live if you're all sitting there petting one of the special   third eye card third eye festival cat.   Right? Third eye carnie kitties? Yeah. So we're offering a solution to It looks like a carnie cat. The cure to male loneliness.  

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Of  

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Yes. We're offering the kids fight club without actually having to get your face rearranged   kinda thing.  

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Like, cute and If we're old, then it fucking hurts.  

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And I don't Let's end this epidemic. I made these guys listen to a song about that before we went on the air.   Is that not the most, like, accurate and hilarious thing in terms of that freaking subject?  

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Straight up. Like, except for I'm the old man. I'm not the bright one that walked away actually winning. I'm the one I'm the old man. Like, yeah. I won I won a bunch of pins and plates and, you know, knuckles that are, you know, shorter than the rest. You know? Got got that same boxer's fracture, my friend. I do. I like that name. Chris   Kristofferson. Should I become He he was one of the half ones to convince me was not as complete sellout. He you could convince me that Kristofferson   he's probably the end of that.  

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Not me. That era, that highwayman   era. Yeah. Where it was Kristofferson,   Willie, Whelan,   you know, the those guys, like, they they were the actual,   David Allen Coe Mhmm.   Freaking Billy Joe Shaver,   Guy Clark,   what's his name? Steve Earl,   Towns Van Zandt. Those guys, they, like, they lived that life.  

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They did, boy. They lived that life. And and no matter what you think that Sinead O'Connor, when that dude walked up on stage when people were booing her because she came out against the pope, most where most people in the country would cheer that now, they still would still don't even remember that she ruined her career over doing that, calling him out. And Kristoffson just walks up and, like, fuck what they think. Yep.  

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Yeah. I know. Like Well, and he was a fucking Vietnam Helicopter Pilot.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. That  

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dude was a beast. He landed a helicopter in Johnny Cash's lawn   to give him the freaking demo tape for Sunday morning coming down. He stole a helicopter   and flew it to Johnny Cash's house to give him his own demo tape.  

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Well, you you   how else do you pull up to Johnny's house Cactus house besides in a stolen helicopter? What the fuck? Before he died, Waylon Jennings said Luke Bryan is,  

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the country.   What? Finger fucking   wearing panty. It's the same thing as finger fucking wearing pantyhose.  

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Dude, and I heard a term yet the other day.   I I I I had heard the songs. The guy was talking about   he you got earworm with some,   radio song, and I was like, I quit listening to the radio since the last time I listened to it, and they had some stupid   half rap song about Applebee's on the fucking thing. He's like, oh, yeah. They call that that hiccup.   I'm like, well, there's the name for the worst thing that's ever been. Mhmm. Awesome.   I'm glad to know it has a name. Yeah. Well, that's because the alternative  

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would have been country rap, which shortens to crap. So they couldn't do that.   They couldn't do that. So they had to go with hiccup.  

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Yeah. And that was supposed to be, like, the number one huge thing, and it's like   and and they and they're going on about it. It's like, oh, god. I am I'm so let. You know what people? Freddie Badger.  

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Yeah. I will say though that when you get a bunch of bluegrass instruments together and you do a hip hop song, it's fucking hilarious and fun.  

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Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. It really is. The,  

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the gourds,   the gin and juice,   like, way back in the day, and it's freaking   basically banjo and mandolin   doing Snoop Dogg.   There's a band called the Cleverleys,   and they pretty much just do covers.  

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And they do What is the deal with Snoop Dogg? Wow. Talk about the the land. Talk about the wildness.   Like, that guy went from anybody that supports the Republican party, you a house and you know?  

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And didn't put on the bow tie.  

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Yeah. And he would never talk to you even, that he is the guy wearing the bow tie, and now he's on Mhmm. With fucking, Tom   Brady   trying to address race relations that nobody gives a fuck.  

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Uh-huh.  

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Joshua got into funk,  

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Turn tune into blunt force wisdom if not for the show for the ten minutes of preshow tunes that I play before every episode because it's a a walk through   the,   the history of   sex jams and funk music,   not just in America, but internationally.   I also play, like, a lot of,   Haitian and African funk before Slow Newsday   randomly. Like, probably like that. I don't know. Two two shows a month or something like that.   Steve's got good taste in music. I I I graduated from the College of Musical Knowledge. I did. I did. I got a diploma.   It burned up in a truck fire, but but I had it.  

I had it.  

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I've got an earworm in in my head. It's a a song I We never played the to.  

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We never played the,   what, the Roger   Roddy.  

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The Roddy.  

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We didn't play that. We could.  

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We can bet maybe play that out.  

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For sure.  

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Yeah. My my earworm, and I won't force anyone to listen to it. It's,   it's a Christian heavy metal song.   It's called,   Commandos for Christ.  

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Alright. I'm gonna listen to that. Goes commando  

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Commandos for Christ. Let's all go commando.  

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I do not want  

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that earworm in my head. I do not want this. Alright. And the way and the way this thing in Wales, it it's just, you know, high pitch screeching. Yeah. It's not called the radio.  

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It's that kind of metal. It's not the   growl metal. It's not not the cookie monster stuff. It's close to the striper.   Okay.   Right. Mitch, by the way, shout out to the OGs for Christian Metal, man. Yep.   I went to a striper show growing up.   Meg, yeah. Meg, yeah.   Bias stripes. With the diesel talk? Mhmm.  

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Let's see. For questionable sexual periods. We already talked about this.  

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I   had,   limited options,   when I was at home with my parents for what music I was allowed to go see. Right. So the the Christian concerts were approved. I was allowed to go to those, and then I had to lie about everything else. And the   and that's when I learned that in many situations,   it is way easier   to ask forgiveness   than permission.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I was not in the Christian boat necessarily because my my mom was not Christian at the time.   But   Kenny Rogers,   you know, Waylon Jennings, that was that was on the docket. Anything harder than that, that absolutely wasn't happening.   I remember the first time I heard, like, a a a rock song type song   that wasn't, like, old classic, like Joan Jett or something at the most   Mhmm. Was,   tears for fears,   shout. Shout.  

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It was either that or everybody wants to rule the world. It was gonna be one of the two. Yeah.  

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Yeah. And I was like,   wow.   What is this what is this melody? This is different.  

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Sandy Patty and you're spelling your name wrong, by the way, your last name. You're spelling that wrong. Went to the church that I grew up in.   Like, she was a   a parishioner   of that church. She'd had dinner at my house a number of times. My my dad and her were friends and, like, collaborated   on church projects and stuff. Amy Grant   went to the college.  

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Oh, god. Greek Don't look at God. You didn't know better, Steve. I I I didn't I didn't even   Don't don't bring up Amy Grant. That's, hit you with the Michael w Smith yet. T o s   t o s.   You got him fucking started now. Goddamn it.  

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But, yeah, Michael w Smith, graduate of Anderson University. Mhmm.  

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No, dude. She was old as shit. And you're gonna bring that guy up?  

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I haven't had Sandy Patty's name in a very long time. Oh, me either, man. It's been a long ass time, dude. But, yeah, I I I grew up around that lady. And let me hit you with this one too, the Gaither brothers. Oh, yeah. The Gaither family. Yeah. Their recording studio was three miles away from the house that I grew up in in Alexandria,   Indiana. And again Okay. My my,   dad and and grandparents were both   close with the Gaither family.   No. She dude, I was a kid. I was a kid, and Amy Grant was, like, 30 when she broke, you know, and all that kind of stuff.   But, yeah, that that oh. It's my Beetlejuice.  

It's my Beetlejuice. Now I'm gonna be traumatized   for the rest of the night  

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because of all hell. The power gonna go off. He's  

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of Christian music   on the lives of everyone is   is something that doesn't get spoken out about enough.   I mean, I mean, there's just  

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it's it's touched everyone. It did yeah. Sometimes in good ways, sometimes in bad ways. Unpredictable  

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ways. And then later in life,  

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remembering   certain cells.  

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Yeah. Meatloaf. Meatloaf?  

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Sure.  

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Yeah.   I was just tell yeah. We were just talking about meatloaf in the the fucking chat earlier. Yeah. It wasn't bad for a Christian singer.   Yeah.   I am, in fact, in in my forties. I am going to be 47   this year.  

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Young and works.   Young and Yeah.   Wow. Young and  

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Yeah.   Born in in 1978,   Anderson, Indiana.   And that's as much doxing as I'm gonna do.  

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Just an update on your identity.   Right. You're a real person.   Right.   Not some moon child, homunculus.  

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No. No. No. Ex moonshiner.   Okay. But but not   not   not moon child homunculus. No.  

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Oh, that's from '82   Okay.  

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Audience. Okay.  

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Oh, in 1980 for analog lime.  

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Alright.  

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We had a pretty evenly  

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even group in the crowd. Yeah. The demographic fits. It does for sure. Yeah. For sure. Probably not a lot of the   whatever podcast audience age demo   hanging out for this one. Probably not Not too much. No.  

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Not yet. But we'll reach out to them.  

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At 75,   it was the best year.  

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The the young people will see the wisdom in our words.  

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Yeah. Eventually, man. After the failure of all their their  

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their their icons, their streamer friends, their parasocial relationships.  

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My kid who's turning 19 next month,   was convinced that   I was, you know, talking out of my ass and just, you know, just kinda bad shit crazy conspiracy guy until he produced the show.   And then   all of the guests came through Mhmm.   And he was,   you know, running all of the clips, and he was bringing them in and all that kind of stuff. And then he was like, oh, dad's   not that crazy.  

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Yeah. And I seem more like he's just accessing information other people don't access. Historical  

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information.  

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My daughter did that too. Like, when, the Martin Luther King drop was coming out, She was like, oh, yeah. I've known that for years and years. My dad talked about it. I was like, you listened?  

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Mhmm. Right?  

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What? Right? When the fuck did that happen?  

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Well, and then,   my, you know, my stepson,   he's in the freaking live chat on the Rockfin, like, every day and has been for a couple of years and stuff like that. Right. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   And,   took   took third place at the Fiddle and Banjo contest   in Gold Country   last year for his age group.   Will likely   will likely level up this year when when he goes back,   but really just it he's an incredibly   talented  

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young guitar player. He really is. So for those new events that you mentioned, April 4 and July 4, was was there a minimum age limit for purchasing a No. They're they're they're all pretty family friendly,  

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especially when you can camp.   And,   like, if you contact me personally   and you say, look. I wanna bring my two young children,   I'll augment. You you won't have to pay   straight across the board   for that. I'll knock down the the ticket price for that.   But,   yeah, Yeah. I mean, I would like to think that that there's gonna be salty language,   and there's going to probably be, you know, some people who choose to drink. There's probably gonna be some people who choose to smoke. So I would, you know, call me back. Just a family reunion.   Yeah. Yeah. You know? But if you don't want your kids around that, then it's definitely that's not the place because,   you know,   the it there we're throwing a party.  

We're we're not throwing,   an intervention.  

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Right.  

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Yeah.   And and, again, like, it's pretty much all, you know, anarchists. So we the we're not here to tell you what to do or how do you live your life. You step out of line, we might regulate a little bit.   You know?   But but that's the extent of it.   And we do have to carry insurance policies   for these things. So if you really step out of line,   the then, you know, for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. That's what science says. We don't want anyone to embarrass themselves, I think. Yeah. Just, you know, keep your shit together. Don't be a total fucking dick.   And ladies,   keep your pussy in your pants, you know, in public. For the minute  

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because   if it's Steve or I coming over to straighten anything out, there's a gangster limp that's gonna be included in that, and it's not coming fast.  

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It's true.   No. What I said was the the concept   as far as replicating it instead of scaling it and having these in as many blue collar towns as possible   is akin to fight club   without having to get your face rearranged.   You know, it's it's not Skankfest. We don't have a boxing ring yet. Jason Ellis is not involved.  

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Yeah. Also, Steve and I are already lift up. Marcus is pretty good.  

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Yeah. Pretty spry guy, I think. Yeah. I don't wanna slide anyone at this point anyway. I'd probably foot races,  

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hacky sacks.  

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What we did in Gunny gunny sack. What is you know, you get people in gunny sacks and We had, like, a a long we had a a dart game Okay. That was   paper mache airplanes   that you threw into the Twin Towers.   And so you were Mhmm. Trying to knock over the towers in as as, you know, few tries as possible. For sure.   We had   a a it was like a a beanbag toss,   but it was Volodymyr Zelensky.   So the beanbags were   meant to represent cocaine, and you were trying to throw the coke in Zelensky's nostril.   That was where you got your most points. Okay.   Yeah. There there were a few other games. So that that's the kind of thing that, you know, the the carnival games that we can bring. We don't have Ferris wheel money. We don't.  

No.   Good. We don't have,   what, water pistol   or whatever.  

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If you come out to my farm, though, you can get high enough that we'll just   flip you upside down once or twice. You'll think you were on a Ferris wheel roller coaster or something. You'll you'll be good. You might just pass right the fuck out in a chair with your head back for, like, an hour and a half   like I did. I think they were funny the first time,   but when you got up and said, oh, damn.   I passed right out, and then you walked over, took a dab, and then passed out again. This it was real funny that second.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. I'd hey. You know? You said earlier that I like it spicy.   I'm gonna play with fire every now and then. I am.   And sometimes you just need to check out for a little bit because there's no other way you're gonna get decent sleep. So  

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Getting up fairly straight with Wikus   regularly fucking checking in on him to make sure we didn't kill him.   Right. It's like, no. He's still there. He's still alive.  

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Are other people bringing their pets? Coma. Is this a pet friendly event?  

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I I should check with the property owner. I was thinking about trying to bring Gomez,   because I can onboard him on a plane now with his special documentation.  

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Oh. But So that callback to a past episode about service animals?  

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Yeah. Okay. Yeah.   But I would probably have to buy an additional seat just for the dog.  

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With real cocaine?  

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No. They don't make that anymore. It all has fentanyl in it. We live in 2025.  

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There's no such thing. Original rest. Even cut the the like, when I my truck broke down   and outside of Fortuna, and I had to spend the night in a hotel. Yeah. I went outside to have a cigarette. Chick just walks up. She's like, yeah, Fenny. I'm like, you don't want it to cut it with anything at this point? There's, like, not give me give me the straight.  

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Wow.  

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I have a letter that someone   left in a a vehicle.   There's some advice for people in certain cities.   Right. Says, hello.   If you're reading this, you're probably stealing my car.   I'm a nice person and likely would have given you a ride, but obviously we're past that.   I would love to afford a car that doesn't get stolen and burglarized   all the time, but I'm broke and this is what I'm stuck with. So you got me again.   You're not gonna get into trouble for stealing my car as long as you don't fuck around and kill a pedestrian.   You'll just leave this somewhere and go about your business. Nobody investigates this tomfoolery.  

One quick favor.   Please do not leave my car somewhere. It will get towed. If I have to deal with one more impound lot holding my stolen shitty Honda for ransom, I'm going to lose my mind and my car because I can't afford to keep bailing it out of car jail.   If I had any money, I would just go buy a goddamn car that wasn't constantly getting stolen in the first place.   Please just leave my old piece of shit car in a neighborhood or   something, somewhere.   There's a note in this envelope. Just stick it on the dash or under the wiper. A   passerby will see it eventually   and call me, and then I can come get my car. No cops. No questions asked. I'm not even mad at you. It's win win. I don't have to deal with police reports, insurance claims, and tow trucks, and you don't have to feel like a jerk for ruining the month of a nice person.  

There are countless safe places to leave this thing.   Drive the car, take my first aid kit, and emergency supplies in the trunk. Stereo is worthless.   And just leave this,   motherfucker in front of someone's house when you're done with it.   Thank you. Enjoy your ride. And it says, PS, if you don't mind committing another misdemeanor tonight, feel free to go through. I can't read the rest of that. Yeah. But,   this is a template you can use   if you're in Vancouver or in one of those cities where cars are often   stolen.  



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They don't get stolen here that much. Well, I don't know. Maybe cars do get stolen, but,   there's some new couple that bought a place   up at the top of the mountain   and did not think out their vehicle situation before they bought the place here. Whoops.   Whoops. Whoops.   Yeah. Whoops. So they have a couple cars that won't make it up the up the mountain.   They've gotten a few U Hauls stuck on the mountain.   Yeah. And, you know, they got a car that they've been leaving down   right   by the paved part of the road.   And   I went away.  

We come back after being gone for the weekend to work, and,   there is a note on their car. And, apparently,   Brian says their car has progressively just gotten worse and worse. Finally, there was note on it, and it was like, can you please stop destroying my car? What the fuck is wrong with you people? Yeah.  

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The first question I asked Ben   way back in the day when he was like, yeah. I wanna have a meetup at my house   was, do we need four wheel drive to get there?   You know?   Because it's a valid question for the mountains in California.   Like,   the   the a lot of other places too.   But at the Reading spot, you definitely didn't.   No. That was the yeah. That was nice   as far as, like, the road was. The the road to your current house is intentionally   kept fucked   up, but you said that's changing.   Yeah. They're And the fucking the road the paved road   blew my mind, dude, when I was driving up there. I had to take a video,   like, a two minute video and send it to my ex wife.  

You know? And be like, look at what the fucking road looks like now. This is fucking crazy. You know? She was like, yes. Cars side by side at the same time.   It's   Wow.   Unheard of.   You know? And look, man. With corners.  

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It's like a crapshoot that fuck in Vegas. You're like,   is there gonna be somebody there?  

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Yeah. No. Like Mhmm. People are gonna start racing on that road now? Yeah. There's already a dude. And the and it's  

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it's the middle of nowhere Mhmm.   In the mountains. It doesn't matter what state you're in. As soon as there's fresh blacktop on that, there's a freaking donut tracks.   It's   all there is to it, man. Like, the actual fucking Yahoo boys live out there.  

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Oh, yeah. Like, literally, there's no such thing as a sign   between my house and Garberville that doesn't have   minimum three bullet holes in them.   Minimum Target practice.   Yeah.   Stickers,   graffiti,   everything else. Like, they graffiti the rocks around here even. One of my favorite into fucking Alder Point. We're going out of Alder Point. Dude, I don't think they even dude, you weren't here. One night, Christy and I were coming home. Were you were with me that night, weren't you, when that whole fucking party was happening on the bridge? And, like, we had to stop the vehicle and everything and wait for these kids to fucking move and, like, all this other shit to get out of our way. Like, they were just up there just getting it. Raging.  

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Like, we saw that Netflix documentary.   Shit happens here. Yeah.  

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Yeah.   Well, and I think they were doing a party because that one kid a couple years ago chucked himself off the bridge. Okay. You know, it kinda happens kinda regularly.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Like, yeah, it's a pretty long fall. That would definitely be  

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There's a bridge over by where my kids are,   and it's   just tagged up   to hell and gone.   And there's people that are trying to do, like, legitimate art on it and people that are just coming to stroll on it. You know? And the county lets it go because it's a tourist destination   at this point to go hang out at the bridge.   I've been down there a couple of times where it's been, yeah, full on   midday,   you know, day drunk ragers.   It's fucking   30 hillbillies and a whole bunch of jacked up Fords   and a nineteen eighties Toyotas,   all parked sideways on the bridge,   and people thrown down the middle of it.  



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Unless they were a pot grower, then they're driving a newer Tacoma.  

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Yeah.   Yeah.  

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Like, I don't lot of that going on  

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in Sonora, really. Not a lot. Really?   Yeah.   They frown on it still   in that county, Calvaras County. They still frown on it.   You think they would have been on board? You think any place that would have given Mark Twain inspiration would be like, yeah. You can smoke weed here.  

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But but, no. Humboldt, they're all about letting you smoke it, but not grow it, and it's the weirdest thing because   the county's dead at this point. Like, they've got no   future whatsoever.   And I don't see, you know, short of finding some miracle mineral that, you know, I don't see where they have any industry hopes.   And   they choke themselves out of the cannabis industry when they were had a premade   name of cannabis. Like, Humble   should have been the top name of any kind of cannabis in the country,   and   they they fucked themselves out of it.  

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Have you seen the pictures of liquor stores   in Canada and in The USA, and they weren't stocking each other's   supplies?  

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Nobody wants your fucking rolling rock anyways, guys.  

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That's from Pennsylvania.  

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Oh, whatever.   See, I can't even name a Canadian beer. Nobody's here.  

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Molson.   Moosehead. Molson. Molson.  

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Molson. Let's see. I think it was the harder Lakers that they were specifically   talking about.  

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Which is crazy because the Bronfman family owns most of those distilleries   in Canada going back to the prohibition days.  

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Looks like  

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Graham, he's a baker. Firearms of the the ATF. Are are they getting any spotlights?   Are they still a thing, or did Trump say no?  

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I love you, man. I love you.  

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Up doing.   Are they actively enforcing anything?  

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Like, I I think they're   trying to reclaim some of the fast and furious   material.   That's what they are.  

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If Marcus   and,   Steve and I, between us,   managed to drink an entire drink   in an in a year, I would find that a surprising year. And so the the three of us when we're discussing such things,   I'm gonna have to apologize. Steve Steve,   was at least a drinker at one point in time. I was a professional.   Yeah. So he has at least some older knowledge on it.   I've never really particularly had any interest in drinking. I I drank when I was younger, you know, like most kids,   you know, in high school or whatever, and I was done by the time I was 21.  

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So when I was talking with the dentistry thing, the my biggest complaint was the alcohol content in the mouthwash, and I think maybe that's a terrible thing.  

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But, I don't know if there's anyone who could argue for or against it. And see, Marcus, I I would have had a hard time seeing Marcus drink.  

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Yeah. There I mean, and there's probably   much better ways   to sanitize   your mouth than by pouring   40%   free yeah. It's called just no cussing. It's just don't cuss, Steve. Just don't cuss. And then you won't yeah. That's fair. Unless unless you want to ask. Have a problem with that. Take your time off. To get all that out of your mouth. Right? How else are you gonna get somebody to wash it out with soap?   Mhmm.   I'm very confused now. You only drank when you were on drugs? No. That's that that that makes sense. It does.   There's a lot of people that only do drugs if they have a drink.  

And then all of a sudden, it goes from,   okay. Fine. I'll have a beer to   it's two days later, and you're in a weird hotel room,  

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trying to figure out where your next eight ball is gonna come from. And, you know, that might be an argument for the cause of the male,   loneliness epidemic is the availability of the liquors and, you know, most men tend to drink alone. They drink the harder liquor as long as that a stereotype. Is is there something about that? It's a George Thurrock song.  

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Sure. Woah. It's got  

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So, like, all these distilleries that were popping up, getting really popular, people were making their   their IPAs or whatever fancy hop stuff, and then they're trying to get guys to hang out at these distilleries. And I don't know if that's   still a very popular thing. I think that's kinda just Hey. It's kinda falling off, hasn't it? Yeah. But it's,  

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gin gin z doesn't drink at all, really.  

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So then why would they wanna go to a a distillery then?  

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Especially a super niche high end distillery.  

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Well, then It's like sitting on speaker tables.  

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What one thing a lot of people don't wanna recognize is   that one of the,   advantages to drinking liquor   back in the day   And in some of these countries where, alcohol is more prevalent,   the   ability to get clean water is a real problem. And so when you,   distill out things that you you've distilled it out. And so   while a lot of people won't put that kind of energy into just some drinking water, they sure will some liquor, and you won't get you'll only get morning sick from the liquor.   You know?   Like, when I was in Germany,   I, that was I got put in the hospital, honestly, from drinking the water,   and so did a number of other guys. And that's   they brought in whole   pallets of cardboard diesel cardboard boxes.  

Stop it.   Stop.  

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That's not my dog. My dog doesn't do that.  

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You know, I I I don't know. At a at a certain time at night, they   the glass doors   give them a reflection, and I Mhmm. Yeah. And then they see some asshole staring back at them, and they're like, fuck you. Uh-huh. And I think that's what it is most of the time. Am I talking about you?   Let's go. My pets. Shut up.  

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Okay. So the cardboard boxes are water?   Shipped out military grade water?  

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That's that you know, I don't know if that was a normal thing. It wasn't any other time when I was in the army, but just that time, we all got sick from whatever was in the not all of us, just those of us that drank water, which wasn't a whole lot of us, to be honest. There's, like, six of us that went to the hospital.   Everybody else like, sucker, you drank water.  

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You didn't have a Brita filter in your kit?  

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No. They do not supply you with a Brita filter in your kit. They supply you with, like, a little napkin to wipe your butt with. Hopefully, you don't get   the runs. Gomez.   Who's your big boy?  

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No.  

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How's that, fluoride   discussion going?  

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It's kinda came and went, didn't it? No. No. No. No. No. Stayed? Since,   since   the September ruling,   I just had lunch yesterday   with   the the dude who curates the website and runs the social media   for Fluoride Action Network.   And so that was   at least an hour of our conversation.   He said,   from September to, like, yesterday,   there were 35   different cities and municipalities   that had voted to end,   their fluoridation   programs.   50% of them are in the state of Florida.   The surgeon general for the state of Florida issued guidance   where he recommended   ending   the fluoridation program.  

It the,   there was just a week ago, a meta analysis study   released   that,   tracked   children and mothers over a decade long period.   Mhmm. They were exposed to fluoridation   where it conclusively   proved that it doesn't matter   what level   of fluoridation   there is in the water, there's a correlative drop in IQ for children.   And this is the first   domestically   produced study because up until this point, they hadn't conducted one in The US.   Like, that that really tracked it over a ten year period.   So you could go to fluorideaction.org   right now,   read about all this stuff,   highly recommend it.  

If you're at all in a position to where you could, like, donate to a nonprofit,   I would, you know, I would suggest you consider those guys,   when when you're making that decision.   The they've done tremendous work. That website alone   has over 25,000   pages,   of data on it.   And one dude   who's putting it all together.   One dude.   So, you know,   the that's pretty freaking impressive.   But it   because the ball got rolling back in September, it's been gaining momentum. It doesn't get any publicity   because it it's been a quote, unquote, conspiracy theory Mhmm. For it was the original one since, like, 1948.   And people were like, they're putting poison in the water.  



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Right.  

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I I would honestly call the original one the the jibby jabs.  

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Yeah. Well and there there's will it the validity   to that. But when they broke out the, like, the term before it was weaponized by   the Kennedy assassination,   the the first,   news media instances   of people being accused of being conspiracy   theorists   are surrounded with fluoride.  

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Well, there's there's   a a memory that a lot of public   public school students have   of having a little paper cup. Yep. That orange tablet. Yeah. It would did it   did it taste a little bit like fruit punch? Or it was it just it looked like fruit punch, I think, because there was a dye in it.   And   and was that fluoride that they were giving out to everyone in the public school?  

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Yeah. And they   they would come in and specifically floridate the water fountains   too in public schools.  

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Right. So there's the memory that people have, you know, of a certain generation. I I don't know when this started or ended or if it's still ongoing,   but there's,   some memories that get conflated together. And then people you know, children just don't even think about it because it might be one day out of the year, and it might be just different days, different classes. Not it might not be the entire school   at 02:00   on Wednesday,   all sipping the Kool Aid at the same time.   But, certainly, there was enough   memories that   people were recovering of, well, what what was in this paper cup, and   were we able to opt out of it? And was there not notice given to parents of what was going on?  



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I think being being from a state that was   so   tiny   population wise helped me out a lot. There's a lot of these things that my state just didn't implement until   much later.  

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Well, there there was I guess the concern was that there was   some children who were drinking well water and weren't getting the required   healthy   amount   of fluoridation.   And and that's and that's where, like, the gate program, the gifted and talented program is is kinda coming up a lot of discussions, and people are just wondering, well, what was that thing and what was it about?   So then there's also the   the testing of   hearing. So there was, like, some big headphones that would go on.  

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Yep. Yep. Yep.   Since the the chat has been going off, and I guess we were for a little bit Mhmm. About booze.   Yeah.   I need to take a,   two minute and forty second   music break.   Somebody particular any word   said that he was enjoying a rye whiskey   at the moment. I'm not gonna play that song. Whiskey  

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rye whiskey.  

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I'm not gonna play that song instead. So much demographic information tonight. We're learning all about had to rye whiskey.  

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Instead   Mhmm. I'm gonna give you, Peter Sellers from the Muppet Show.  

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Oh.  

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Yeah. I don't know if you guys have ever seen this before or not. It's like, the   the I could go off for days on how cool the Muppet Show was,   but this is the Pink Panther, Peter Sellers.  

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Hey, Preachman, dear friend. You're about to receive   on John Varlicar nicotine   and the temptation to have you Oh, yay. God, I get so good in that spirit. You will, brother. You will. The   melody's   whiskey, cigarettes,   and whiskey, and wild, wild women. They'll drive you crazy. They'll drive you astray.   Cigarettes   Cigarettes and whiskey and wild wild women.  

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They're driving you crazy. They'll drive you insane.  

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I believe I'll give it up.  

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Cigarettes is a blot on the whole human race.   A man is a monkey with one in his face.   That's my definition.   Believe me, dear brother.   A fire on one end and a fool  

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on   the  

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See temptation.   Somebody get that bum out of here.   Right on the cross at the head of my grave.   To weapon and whiskey here lies a poor slave.   Take warning, dear stranger. Take warning, dear friend.   They'll write in big letters, these words I'd lie   in.  

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This same episode of the Muppet Show, Peter Sellers has a conversation   with Kermit the frog   about how he can't   actually be   he he real. He has to be a character. Mhmm.   And there's, like, something   in him   wrong with him, off with him that that to where he can't interact with people   without   performing or being a character. Like, it's crazy, dude. The Muppet Show super  

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insight personally insightful.  

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Yeah.   I I go and even though Disney owns all of it now,   like, you can still find   most of it. If you can find the conversation   with Peter Sellers and Kermit the Frog, where he's like, no. I don't know how to be me. And that's basically what he says. I don't know how to be me.   I only know how to be these characters. I don't, yeah, I don't even know. I'm not sure if I know who I am anymore because I've been so many characters, so the only person I can be is the character.  

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Sounds like Jim Carey needs to join in that support group of of actors who don't know who they are anymore.  

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Yeah. I guess he made Dave Chappelle call him Andy   Mhmm. When he was doing man on the moon. Mhmm.  

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The the method and the madness in the acting. Mhmm.   I did drop a deadline article in the the Streamyard chat there. I know this is this is   upsetting to Belderson. He's  

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gonna have to hear about this again. Hey.  

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I'm pretty sure that wasn't directed to you. It might have been. This this is Robert Eggers being attached to a labyrinth movie sequel,   which is pretty upsetting.  

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Don't freak out that fucking travesty.   Are you fucking with me? Yeah. We had just They're about that shit again.  

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Right. Right. So it   the way Hollywood works  

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The first one was disturbing enough. This guy don't fucking add to it.  

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There there have been other people attached to a sequel   to Labyrinth before, and it might just be that this is a way to sell deadline   click clicks. Yeah.   So it's like,   knowing that there really is no intention to make the movie, to keep it in sort of that limbo of development hell? It it seems right in the vein of what he would enjoy.  

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He he his other movie,   I I I thoroughly enjoyed the Northman. Mhmm. He puts extreme emphasis   on the occult,   symbology   and the,   cultural things.   Hit the Northman was fantastic.  

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Sure.   And maybe maybe we'll save more of this conversation until we have, a Jay Dyer in the room, author of Esoteric Hollywood who could probably   correct us on a lot of this.   So this is I don't know if it was doing well. Correcting.  

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I I I'm not,   I'm not enemies with Jay Dyer, but I'm not friends with him. I I don't know how much correcting there's gonna be happening. I I He's the expert.   Well, you put out a book. I'm not sure that that makes you an expert. I think he's  

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three books on esoteric Hollywood.  

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And an a and e series. Right?  

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Well, you know, he was partnered up with somebody else that's pretty, well versed in such things and and known for putting out such information.   And,   one of them is known for stealing from one of the other ones. I don't know how that Man, the other ones are broken, not on the Internet anymore.   Not that,   not that he wants to be. Right. Right.  

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It's a very unforgiving,   unrewarding,   uncaring   place to be.  

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His experience with YouTube,   that, so many people   that went through the 2020 purges in 2019,   mister Freeman went through that quite a bit before that.   It was the bit first big channel I'd known of that went down like that. Yeah. It was Freeman and Corbett and, like,  

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a couple of David Ike. Yeah. Those were the people that got nuked right out of the gate. So you mentioned David Ike. He talked to his son this morning. I was surprised to hear that bitch shoot was did I say that right?   Bitch shoot.  

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Yeah. That that they were so kind in mirroring the David Ike channel from YouTube. Bitches goes pretty hard in the paint for independent content creator. They reached out to me Okay. A couple of times, and they were like, hey. We like what you do.   How can we,   you know?   And and basically, they're like, hey. If you throw us a little bit of money, we'll make sure that we promote the fuck out of you. Mhmm.   And and it's not a lot. They want, like, $36   a year.   And then   they'll be   way kinder in the way that they push, you know,   the the content, and that's fair extortion as far as I'm concerned.  

I I got, you know, no problem with that.   But, yeah, they've they've reached out to Ryan a number of number of times. They reached out to the Ike family. Mhmm. The Odyssey people too   have been,   very, very supportive.   Nobody's there.   And Odyssey probably does more   in terms of, like, keeping it real   than   just than any of these other sites. Odyssey just dropped Stripe   as their payment processor   because Stripe keeps censoring so many of Odysee's creators.   So they're like, no. We're not gonna work with you,   ever again. Go fuck yourselves. We're gonna find a different way to do this.  

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And then maybe cryptocurrency and blockchain   technology.  

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Autistic   cryptocurrency   platform sucks though, and you can't   convert it and you can only spend it inside the platform. You can only use it inside the platform. And I understand that they wanted to keep it, like, in their way. This  

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is innovation and encouraging innovation   creates innovative solutions down the road.  

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Yeah. Unless there's a monopoly   on what's perceived as innovation that becomes the default or de facto either platform or payment method.   And that's where we're we've kind of found ourselves.   So many of these things are, like, either tied to the Ethereum network because   that's,   you know, the major platform Right. As far as that goes for being able to   convert to different tokens and and then have the ability to cash out,   which is where the the whole, like,   the honesty crypto token thing   never made sense to me other than   they were like, no. We're not going to tie ourselves to Ethereum. We'll do whatever else and it might be dumb, but we're not gonna be that dumb.  



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To have that level of independence where they can control all the code.   There's, you know, there's pros and cons to it. It just be very, very technical in the conversation. People just want something that works,   and YouTube is the one solution that   works on the most platforms and the most browsers over time. It's just   it works well. We're on YouTube now, I think, still. Right? Probably streaming?  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Know.   Sure. Sure. Including, Slick Dissident is watching and,   talking about, The lights just flickered? Greek work,   Greek, and all that in the diff in the, compared to Hebrew. Mhmm. We probably next month most likely have,   Ahmed Hillman coming on. He's a expert in Greek. You can have that argument with him. I obviously don't know enough about Greek or Hebrew   to have any argument about either myself.   But we're bringing him into our use, so he's   a renowned Greek expert.  

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And a great voice actor too.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Very bombastic.   Like we were talking about earlier, if you wanna stand out and be and be big, you've got to   be very bombastic, and he took that to,   the the   he set he's trying to set the bar on that.  

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Scott didn't hijack a bus. He fucking had a bunch of Home Depot scams. But he did look like,   Oregonian   Chuck Liddell in his mugshot,   which you can see if you go to rebunked records on YouTube and watch the song Hood Rat Boogie.   Yeah. You can see you can see old Scott   and then compare that to new Scott. Old Scott   was pretty rowdy.   He was pretty rowdy. He was.   Yeah.  

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I've checked people. I'm trying to look notes. There's a lot a lot of information we've shared tonight.  

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For me to look at anything like Chuck Liddell, I would have to be way old me because I don't even have that air in this part right here. That's, like, where it's mostly missing from is this general area right here. So you could do the reverse Mohawk thing. Yeah. I'd have to do, like, the road warriors where the one had the two stripe. I'd have to do these.  

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Is  

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he a UFC fighter? Are we talking to you? Chuck Liddell. Yo. Yeah. Yeah. The Ironman.   Right. Iceman. Iceman. My bad. Iceman. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Fuck. Did you see Dana White talking with,   Tucker Carlson   Yeah. About joining Meta for some  

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was it a supervisor? Oh, did he get did he did he get,  

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kosher sausage out of his mouth long enough to talk? Well, there's a guy it was his name Bryce who talked to another guy and talked about a German leader. Yeah. Okay. Bryce Mitchell said said some things about a historical thing. German leader.  

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He did.  

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Yeah. And Dana White,  

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the old manager. Dana White's like,   hey.   Hey.   They own us.   Right. They own us.  

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Look. If you guys ever want to get the   the true inside baseball   on the UFC,   there's a podcast   called John Fitch knows nothing.   John Fitch was   a a former,   UFC   champion contender.   He won a whole bunch of fights in a row. He got totally screwed over   in a title fight,   and it kinda   because he was advocating   for,   speaking out at the time when it was totally unpopular   about the way the the   the athletes in the UFC were being treated.   John Fitch,   like, really puts it out there, and he does his his,   geopolitical   analysis   is on point.   The way that, like, he sees, you know, what's what's coming down the line with technocracy   is on point.  

For a dude who spent twenty years getting punched in the head, he's got better analysis than, like, 99   and a half percent of, quote, unquote, independent media.   But that he's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cannot fair with 99.9%   of their brains have been pickled. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. But I like, it Fitch goes deep in the paint. He's   really, really, really humble,   as a human being, and he can kill you with his bare hands.  

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So the question I have in my mind is at what point is something gossip and at what point is it historical   information?  

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When you can prove it in court, I think. Okay. Okay. For most people, at least, for most people.   Some of us, you know, we we don't need the specific court documents. There's things that precede those   that are convincing enough to be like, yeah. It's gonna take a lot to sway me the other direction   right now.   But for most people,   unless,   a court makes a ruling on it, they're not and even then, as we were just talking about the fluoride thing Mhmm. Even then, you had all kinds of liberals   freaking out being like, let's stock up on fluoride tablets because Bobby Kennedy might get approved as HHS secretary. We can't have that.  

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That is historical.  

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Yeah. Dude, the shit that the shit that I we're seeing right now, Like, the for me, the epitome of it   is the small hat senator dude that fucking,   tried faking, like, the these people were attacking him and, like, fell down on the ground and started screaming, but nobody was touching him. And they got the whole thing on video, and then he had to quit. He had to fucking reside. You're like, that's just the world right now. Like Yeah. There's so many of these fuckers that just say and do shit, and it's completely out of pocket.   And you're   like   and and no nobody buys it in any way, shape, or form and fucking   then they just go go nuclear. You're like,   okay.  



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Check-in on your extremist friends. They've had to they've had to level up the the propaganda   or in the case of the   tiny hats, the Hasbara.   Because   it what had previously   existed has been failing   miserably.   And so it's gotta change. And if the only thing you know how to do is be a sensationalist   liar,   then your sensationalist   lies are going to exponentially increase   in correlation with your desperation.  

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Yeah.   To the point where clearly faking something in front of everybody caught on camera,   like, nope.   It's so weird.   It's and it's like they're so used to being believed   even though they say outrageous shit that they think that they can take it to this, and and nobody believes it anymore. And it's it's really wild to me right now. It it it also, the LGBT   plus blah blah blah can use LGB now. The ways that they have just completely lost their fucking minds right now because the world is now all of a sudden all at once   not afraid to say, no. You're just crazy.  

And and it's okay that you're crazy. That's fine. So there are people who are hard line LGB  

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now where they there's just those three letters.  

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Yeah. Well, the the Trump administration   took away   the WKRP   part from it, and it's just the   the LGBs now.   And also told people that it was the official policy of the US government that there are only two genders. And that has a lot of people upset.  

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Which which the the what's amazing to me on that is is that they don't realize that that only applies in the federal government operations.   In no way does that mean that any journalist, any doctor,   any teacher,   anybody else in the whole fucking country has to abide by that. It just means in official government paperwork   that that's the way things will be recorded. You were either a boy or a girl. There's no other options.  

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It's pretty fucking it doesn't really affect anybody else but government workers. So how do we go back to school and get a civics lesson in what the federal government   does and doesn't do?  

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Boy.   Oh, that one is so apparently very long overdue because the o because it and it doesn't matter which side we're talking about. I mean, it it didn't it didn't matter  

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in high school when I was in, like, ninth, tenth grade. I, you know, I didn't care what the federal government was doing. That was the least interesting thing. And the people I get the education when they're that age, they don't care about federal government and the division of powers, and they don't they don't care. So they don't matter. Care about Ferdinand Magellan, but I still remember that shit.  

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Right.   Hey, fellas. I it's a it it's 08:30. I gotta drop off. You can keep going if you want. I gotta take the dog out and feed him and stuff like that. If you guys wanna bullshit ready for, mister Dyer next week. We love you guys. It's gonna be an exciting month.  

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And, hopefully, we keep it rolling right into next month. So   see you guys next week.  

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Have a good day. Bye. See you next Tuesday.  

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Indeed.