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The Cartoonish Reality of Modern Society
Presidential Pot Brownies: A Journey Through Absurdity
Navigating the Infotainment Overload: Conspiracies, Media, and Modern Life
Globalization, Immigration, and the American Idea
AI, Privacy, and the Struggle for Independent Voices Continues


In this episode, we dive into a wide-ranging discussion that touches on various cultural, political, and social topics. We begin with a humorous take on the New Year and the ongoing traditions that seem to persist despite the changing times. The conversation shifts to a reflection on past presidents, with a particular focus on the transformation of a Grammy-winning president into a mythical figure, and the implications of such a transformation.

We explore the concept of irony in modern society, noting how it has evolved into a cartoonish reality where rapid-fire absurdities are the norm. The discussion also delves into the overwhelming nature of conspiracy theories and the overload of information that makes it difficult to discern truth from fiction.

The episode takes a critical look at the media landscape, highlighting the shift from traditional media to alternative platforms and the challenges faced by independent creators. We discuss the role of AI personalities in social media and the implications of having one's entire digital history used to create tailored content.

We also touch on the topic of immigration, particularly the nuances of the H-1B visa program and the discrepancies in how different immigrant groups are perceived and treated. The conversation examines the broader implications of globalization and the idea of America as a set of ideas rather than a geographical entity.

Finally, we address the challenges of modern consumerism, the impact of technology on privacy and personal freedom, and the ongoing struggle for independent voices to be heard amidst a sea of mainstream narratives. The episode concludes with a light-hearted discussion on the quirks of everyday life and the absurdities that come with it.

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You win.   Come out, dude.   Dudes?   9,   30,   8, 7, 33,  

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2, 1, fight.  

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Yo.  

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What's up?  

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What's happening?   Well, it's January  

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7,   2025.   And surprise, we're still doing this.   Nothing can stop us now.  

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Did, did everybody leave a plate of   pot brownies   and some milk out for the buffalo horned shaman for January 6th yesterday?  

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Happy New Year and Merry Christmas, everybody.  

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Yes. And a happy 6th miss   to patriots.   Patriot.  

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Yeah. Yeah. I've got too many dishes in every room of the house.  

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Yeah. It's one of it. Does that one also get a dick in a box?  

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Vanilla wafers?   Is that the answer?  

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Oh. I mean, Fonzie's dick in a box.   Christmas is dick in a box. I mean, I did is January 6th?  

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Was it dick in a box? No. You get to take a shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk.  

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Nice.   Yeah.   Yeah.   That's not quite an upper decker. I would upper decker her toilet, but Oh, guaranteed.  

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Are we allowed to talk about Paul Some of us have  

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class. Some of us have class.  

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I'm   kinda sheepish to bring up this topic, but, a Grammy winner   who was president of America is undergoing an apotheosis right now. I think he's becoming a a god man   Yeah. Or a man god. Yeah. And I'm like, is that the last normal president we'll ever have? And by normal, I mean,   wasn't he a peanut farmer?  

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Well, he was also Navy intelligence.  

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So he had a job, you know, he would   he was doing the thing that machines are gonna do now. And he was also the trilateral  

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commissions  

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freaking bitch. But What is a trilateral commission? Is that a car part?  

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Yes. It is. It is. It goes,   right right in between   the,   the Bilderberg,   and and the WAF pump.  

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Hail, Billing. Hail, Stella. Hail, Dead Wolf.   Glad you guys to make that make it at this unknown announced start time.   Love you, Billing.   Yeah.   I there's a few things that Steve   said that were, like, little coined phrases   that, he,   said when I first met him.   One of them was that, irony died in 911.   And,   that that one's always been funny. But,   you know, that we live in a cartoon.   And   the the   every year, I'm not sure if that fucker fucking did something to me or something, but it's just gotten more and more cartoonish every year. Something known and   and   and they've got that ratcheted up so bad right now. It's like you can't even   it's just rapid fire with it. You can't even keep up   Like,   for   Marcus and I used to normally do a conspiracy show, and,   in a conspiracy world, like,   it's too much. It's overload. You're like,  

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all the stuff.   All the stuff.  

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No. Like, it it it's just all   happening, and all of it's ridiculous. Like, the whole thing with,   that the technocrats are now pushing   a new idea, old idea, UN idea, blah blah blah. Like and they went from right wing to and then   that that   it went to Elon Musk kicking a whole bunch of people off of, or demonetizing   and taking away their blue checks. Mhmm. There's too many people talking,   poorly about the small hats   and the the because that's always the thing with the right wing, left wing.   If you're gonna go and be on the more con,   liberal side, you have to accept that,   oh, you know, the the trannies, and you have to accept all that kind of crazy thing   and the all the bleeding heart things. And then if you're gonna go right wing, you have to accept that,   like, they're totally pro Israel, totally pro small hat.  



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Didn't even try to pretend, like, the, you know, the Trump out there talking about make Israel great again,   all that kind of stuff. Jet fuel can't melt irony. That's correct.   That is correct.  

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That's kind of been a a major topic,   a sticking point where they they hit you right in the wall with this idea of   labor. I know that there was a phrase we heard a few years ago called essential workers.   And now talking   about skin color as being a a thing that determines how well someone can complete a task at a job site.   Mhmm.  

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We already knew that. If you've ever been on a construction site, we've already been we're already aware of that.   Right. Well, I mean the fields are color coded.  

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You know? Sure. And going back to, you know,   this idea of when Unweaving Spiders,   we were talking about conspiracy and symbolism and the humor of all this and not taking any of it seriously to say that all of this stuff is language games. It's all for media. It's all for political circus and theatrics.   But it gets really weird, and I don't know if this is irony or satire   or literature at all. But having this idea that bringing   what they call Indians   to America to do tech jobs,   which is confusing   because you go back a few years, Indians meant a different term. It was like a different red skin type of a thing. And now we're talking about brown skin, but not   from north or from south. You know, what are borders and what are directions?  

So the idea   that this racial thing is going to continue to be the bait   forever   or where it's like we were we were  

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noticing as in dying. In this case in this case, you have a distinct contrast because apparently   immigrants from,   Spanish nations   are bad immigrants and immigrants from, you know, depending on what area, but Indian,   immigrants from Indian, those are good immigrants, and they should get a special provision   that allots them to come in.   So that's really where the problem comes in is the discrepancy in that that, there's a lot of the right wing talking about a complete moratorium   on any kind of immigration,   legal or illegal. And,   you got,   the the technocrats   in that are in charge of the right wing right now, wanting to   go, okay. Well, moratorium on everything, but special privileges to India so we can import,   computer y guys.  



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Mhmm. But it's not even computer y guys that that they're doing.   Because the argument was from,   Vivek,   Ramaswami,   and Elon.   The argument was,   we're members of a global community.   Mhmm. We if we won a strong country,   because now there's this idea in the conservative party   that America   is just a set of ideas.   It's not   the land or the people or anything like it. It's a set of ideas.   So we don't need the native population to have American ideas and ideals.   And so you can replace   not   what their argument is   and get the best engineers,   the brightest scientists from all over the world,   and   we'll we'll get them here on h one b visas. Now the problem with that is that there's already a category for the best and the brightest from all over the world and celebrities from all over the world. That's why we have, like, 7 foot tall Slavic basketball players and stuff like that. It's the o one   Visa program or the Genius Visa program.  

And they'll pass them out to just about anybody.   Apparently,   Melania   Trump, the model   and, you know, softcore porn star   got here on a g g genius visa.  

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Well, I can't argue with her genius.   Mhmm. I mean, her smartest move was marrying the president.  

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Mhmm.  

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Yep. But,   so what they're doing   and what the h one b bases are are it's a lottery based system that will get   the lowest skilled worker to a medium skilled worker over here.   And it allows the company   to,   you know, not have to pay out benefits,   to,   not necessarily have to pay competitive wages.   It basically   weds   that employee to the job   because they're there on a work visa. So if they don't have the job, they get booted out of the country.  

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Or you tell me that the company store is coming back? 100%.   Mhmm.  

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Got it. And Zuckerberg   and,  

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good music from that era. Good music from that era. Heck yeah. That's what we need is some some super   real bad suffering and some real bad fucking people over so we get some good music again. Right? I really thought,  

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we were gonna get   some legitimate punk rock and hip hop out of the lockdown era.   And instead, we had   rage on behalf of the vaccine   Yeah.  

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And the flu virus. It really is interesting how just just about everywhere, including on the internets,   the the   the new thing's the same as the old thing. You know, the whether it's Tucker Carlson   or old football players or whatever,   slowly, this space has been totally taken over by people that were just the people on TV.   Mhmm.   You know? They they just,   new things. Just the old thing is the new thing.  

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Yep.   Did a a slow news day, I think, a couple of years ago   where me and me and Gloria Jones were   going in on this,   this concept. And I think the show was called, like, new media is old media. You know? I mean, you've got,   you know, everybody that's formed up   was kind of front and center of this mainstream alternative media. They all had decades long careers in mainstream.   All of them. Yeah. Whether it's Rogen doing TV and stuff like that   or Tucker at the news   or Russell Brand,   you know,   from, BBC Radio   to doing their fake or their,   British MTV shit and then movies and all that kind of stuff. Like, they're all mainstream celebrities.  

All of them. Yeah.  

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Yep. All the alternative   media at this point is entirely mainstream celebrity celebrities with   the easy example of this   is Jake Uecker,   you know, who was   is still absolutely   just   mainstream.   And,  

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I I always forget about that club.  

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Yep. But, you know, he was, you know, he was the first really truly sanctioned,   alternative media that was just a break off mainstream to try and suck up the people that were actually going   alternative.   He was given this large platform   and,   space   and,   promoted   because,   he was basically gonna be another just another wing of the the left wing, just like another little offshoot of it. Yeah.  

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So is this engineered to create   polarization and they are creating   both of the polarized sides of whatever it is?  

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I mean, yeah.   It's also to   suck as much oxygen   out of the independent media space as humanly possible so that the audience doesn't find people who aren't agenda driven or trying to just griff them or give them,   you know, 30 to 80%   of the story, but never a 100% of it.   And so it just kinda pushes people   into   the exact same bubbles that they were in when they, you know, were just bought into the mainstream   media nonsense.   It's just online now. That's it. Years ago, when I first started doing Slow Newsday, my nickname for Jake Ugar was cable news on the Internet guy. Yeah.   And it just couldn't fit on a bumper sticker.  

And then I started calling him Jake Eunuch.   And he That's right one. And he blocked me.  

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I   don't know why.  

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Yeah. And now in 2025, you can follow your favorite celebrity on multiple platforms   and then see which one that they don't respond to right away. Mhmm. Because not everyone's logged into   all of the media platforms   on their cell phone that they take with them everywhere they go. And it's sort of this minority report   thing, you know, the Spielberg movie based off of, you know, the famous author's book about, you know, when Tom Cruise's character   sees his picture   or his animated face   on an advertisement   telling him   to buy the product,   and he's a little bit confused by that.  

We're looking at   the feature that Zuckerberg's rolled out to   was it Instagram where they have   AI personalities?   Mhmm. So they've created   AI personalities   to then appeal to   the demographics,   that they want to market to   directly,   which gets into this idea of   if it was not necessarily the last 4 years only,   but your entire   life on Facebook   and then tie that to your Instagram account. And now you've got your Meta account, so you have   maybe going back to 2,005   an entire life history of   who you are, and then that's a good chunk of data to now create   past issues   of people   to fit into   what you'd think that person would be.  

And then   those people will share their opinions   on the platform,   which will engage people in conversation.   But people need to remember that when they're   commenting on an AI bot person's   post,   that that was allowed   to be discussed.   So the issue that's being brought up   should be from the get go suspicious.   Why are we having this topic at this time of year, and then what is the next move and the move after that?   So an example of this is with Will Smith   releasing a cryptic message that looks Matrix like, and people are thinking, well, this could be   his way of saying that   because he wasn't in the 1st Matrix movie when he was maybe offered the role, he read the script, didn't like it. Now he's gonna maybe be in the Matrix   5.  

Well, that would be wishful thinking. It's much more,   along the lines of being a product   placement in a Super Bowl commercial   because it's advertisements.   So in thinking in terms of what companies are doing,   their announcement for an announcement to announcement to a teaser   for something that we're looking forward to is the product and the experience and everything we're looking forward to.   So in a nihilistic society where,   man, can't get a job, money is expensive, everything costs too much,   The one thing we have to look forward to is   opening   up   X threads, Instagram,   Snapchat, whatever it is, and seeing celebrities   teasing an announcement for a project that we're supposed to jump onto a hype train for.  

Now what is the alternative to that in the media?   We can't go against that because all of the funding   and all of the advertising   has to be in alignment with our own goals as creators.   So we can't speak ill against any product ever because   the parent company   owns   multiple products.   So if we say we don't like product   a, b and c, all the other products under that umbrella   are going to the same marketing, which is kind of the social credit score thing playing out.   Mhmm. Maybe not in the way we thought it was,   but the idea is still finding its its way. So all these predictive   films in what we thought the world in 2025   would be like   aren't necessarily   the way we thought they'd be   20 years ago,   but we didn't have the idea or the imagination   of what the goal was going to be.  

We were much more shortsighted.   But now I wanna go back to borders and maps   and the idea of   building a wall.   But now instead of building a wall, let's just take over Mexico and Canada and Greenland.  

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Hey. You don't need you don't need a wall if it's suddenly a part of your country.  

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Super interesting that, they were the anti globalist, and now they're   globalist. Well, America is just an idea.   Like, you know, like, could you say any more globalist of things?   Like, I I don't even understand how it hasn't imploded. Like I said, the,   the thing that is setting people off is the small hats. A lot of people are still mad about that. They are not. They're taking a beating right now. But now Musk just comes out and just pulls everybody's credentials on that, and there was there was big names on there. I I was,   pretty shocked.  

Myron from fresh fresh and fit got pulled. Owen  

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Shroyer got pulled.   His Blue Jack got pulled. Owen Shroyer.  

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Yeah.   Nick Fuentes got pulled.   Not that I'm a fan of his or a fan of even any of these names, but just, you know, they got pulled for saying anything that was,   anti small hat. And I   for   that's super interesting.  

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Well, under the guise of the h one b thing, though, re really,   it it was so the way that I it it's interesting how it play out.   Chaos agent Laura Lumer was deployed   to start the whole shit storm with Elon in the first place.   And everybody, you know, to all the people that jumped on the bandwagon to be like,   hey. Actually, you know, she's nuts, but   this is kinda fucked up. You know? All of the people that were, doing that were the people who got their check marks removed, their subscribers   removed, something like that. That's when we found out that Laura Loomer had, like, 200,000   subscribers   at a minimum of a dollar a month.  

Laura Loomer's making almost a quarter about a quarter $1,000,000   a month   on Twitter.   Right?   Alright.   So with that kind of money, dude, you're you're being   directed   to go start that fight. What did happen is a whole bunch of regular people got lost their Twitter accounts, got their accounts suspended.   A whole bunch of Nick Fuentes'   Groiper kids all got their fucking   accounts suspended.   And I think that I think that that was,   like,   orchestrated.   I did. And I think that the were   specifically   targeted   before removal.   I could be wrong about that, but it's what it looks like. They're the ones who've got the most of the banhammers.  

They're, you know,   there's still people that are connected to them that I don't think got their subscribers back yet or their BluJack back yet. I know Owen Shroyer did,   and Laura Loomer did too. And she's she got her blue check back and didn't immediately go and fuck   everybody who you know, like, she just she switched subjects.   Stop talking about the Elon thing altogether. She's like, where's the fog?  

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What about Jake Shields?  

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What about him? How's that guy doing? Did he get his back? Oh, I don't know.   So then  

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financial, that's No. No blue check for old Jake.   Almost did 850   831,000   followers.   He was probably making a a pretty penny   from those Twitter subscriptions   too.  

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Yeah.   Yeah.   You would have to think.  

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Yeah. The financial thing is   difficult  

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to see what's going on. I doing some wild shit because right before he lost his check mark,   Marcus was pointing him out to us.   And,   some of the wild shit he was doing, he was, like, he was having a David Duke interview. Yeah. Which I'm just like, that guy's still fucking alive?   Holy shit.   Yeah. He was young when he started stirring shit.  

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Mhmm.   And that's the question of, you know, Rumble being an alternative   to YouTube,   but will it remain an alternative if it's purchased by a conglomerate?  

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I mean, dude, it Peter Thiel put 500,000,000   into it.   Right. You know, Vivek Ramaswami   put a 100,000,000 into it.   Freaking,   Don Junior's got money in it, Dan Bongino. Like, it's narrative management. That's what it is.   It's YouTube for right wingers.   It always has, but we've been censored to hell and gone on Rumble.   You know?   Reach limited, freaking don't show up as live.   You have to specifically type in the name of the show.   If something isn't capitalized   or there's, you know, something like that, it fucking   doesn't pop up right away. It's just, you know,   I've had videos demonetized,   and they run 8,000,000,000   commercials of freaking   episode even on live streams.  

Mhmm.  

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Oh, Twitch Twitch will do that   where you're watching whatever the Twitch stream is owned by Amazon,   and then I think it might even be random. So   dynamic ad insertion   happens at at random. It doesn't care if there's a,   a pause in conversation.   Mhmm. It doesn't detect that. It just   spits out the advertisements.   Yeah. So you might just be out of it for 30 seconds   while the stream is still streaming.   So you just missed 30 seconds of the stream.   That's not that's not great for   consumers. That's not great for the viewers, and it's almost   it's almost a form of psychological punishment to say,   I'm I wanna watch. I wanna support,   but then it's just  

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I I I don't think it's supposedly that. I if I was gonna guess, I would guess it's algorithm   driven.   So they understood that, like, back when we were kids Right. In,   22 minute program, you got 8 minutes of commercials.   And they broke it up into 3 sets of commercials.   You get a short set of commercials,   a long set of commercials,   and a short set of commercials, and then it would switch over to a new show. Whenever you But you got approximately   22 minutes of   the word programming. They they were exactly what they're doing. Well,   in today's society as opposed to them, our our our attention span has dropped   severely.  

So my guess is if they tried playing   3 back to back commercials that were more than 15 seconds each,   that that that person's already switched to a different thing. They aren't even trying to stick around through that.   And so that they've discovered that maximum they can get away with is 2 commercials.   1 of them has to be short,   and then maybe one slightly longer one. But they start doing it at a much higher duration. But then also   with the limited   attention span,   that's fine for most people. Sure. It's gonna bother some people like   like us   who would like to have the consistent stream of thought,   but a lot of people   that break is not a problem for them. So all they're doing is fitting in fitting into the algorithm of that.  



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Right. So my concern with that   is   the disruption mechanism that that technology   has.   So say   we have a big streamer   who ends their stream and then they rate us. So they say, hey. Go check out these guys. They're streaming now.   And then they see that there's an uptick in viewership,   and then they could just hit everybody with   a commercial for,   you know, 90 seconds,   and that could kill the momentum.   So if we're trying to organize something   and we're on   other people's platforms,   ultimately,   we're behaving   in the ways that allow us to remain   on the platform.  

And that goes back to the the argument. We'll go and build your own video site or go and build your own blog or website.   But then those are punished   in search results.   Yeah. And not sharing on social media.  

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So And I think Gregory Walker's got a point that the platform's   almost making things unwatchable unless you get the premium subscription.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.   I   Yeah.   It really seems like they're trying to drive people over to premium   by oversaturating   with ads.  

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I know some of the platforms   that,   are more,   this and and, honestly, the funny thing is well, the bigger ones, they've demonetized.   So, obviously, the monetized ones, this is demonetized ones. This isn't a problem.   But, even the smaller ones,   like some of these other debate platforms like, FlowState,   You know, his show is not real big,   and it'll have a lot on his one or or, I mean,   Raging Tomato.   Hers is like   every, like, 3 minutes. You're like, you can barely get through, an actual, like, opening statement.   And, you know, I I missed chunks of that statement.  



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Yeah.   Yeah. That's just I mean, it's shitty. And yeah. No. God, I think Greg's I think Greg's absolutely correct on that.   Just make people so sick of it that they're like, alright. How much you want for premium? I'm freaking paying it.  

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Yeah.  

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Set it in the category of demoralization?  

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Mhmm.   Yeah.  

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So even if you, at one point in your history   and your affinity towards a streamer,   you like them, you like the platform, it's okay.   Over time, it gets worse and worse and worse.  

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But Well, you're describing Rockfence.  

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Well,   that's the next thing I wanna talk about is Rockfence where they   originally base come from, Steve?  

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Any other time I've said a foul word about Rockfin, you've jumped my shit.  

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Oh, what's what's going on, guys? Is there a beef here?  

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Yeah. No. I mean, dude, I I would I   I,   very supportive of those guys until about   a year ago,   and it they fucking   they changed up a whole bunch of shit. Now most of the same people don't even   work there or have ownership in it.   And, yeah, they went from,   something really promising to something that they just sorta   let go to shit.  

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Dude, when it when they switched it from the it was $8,   subscription, and then   that was just it. You know, if you paid a subscription, you got to watch anybody on Rockfin or whatever to you could pay $15   or $5   just to watch this one guy show. That fucked us right there. Also, and then they didn't give us a larger sound because before that, when they first started, they were really good. Like, you got, like, 7 of those 887   of the $8 if they subscribed under your name or something like that.   And it mostly looked like the whole the whole   re mechanism   behind it was to try and push their coin.  

So they were really just being generous to the creators to draw on creators.   And then when they made that leap, there was nothing in it for the creators.   Nothing like and then they the pay started to get real sketchy.   Like, guys like Brian Stavely even that were like, has have they released the money? What's going on? And that guy used to get a lot on on on, Rockfin.  

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Mhmm. Yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah. No. There were a few months in a row where they were just,   they weren't paying out.   They got harassed by, like, everybody gave a total bullshit.   Fucking we're working to streamline the process.   Mhmm. Well,   they they what was unstreamlined   about it when you were paying out at the beginning of every month for the last month? Well, how was that unstreamlined,   and how is, you know,   taking 3 and a half weeks   in a month to issue your freaking   magic tokens  

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streamlining it? They were minting themselves   so they could just create more tokens and then send them out.   You know, that was that was never quite clear to me as well. And the other question I had with Rockfin   was   I would leave, Rockfin window open on multiple   screens and multiple devices using multiple   variations on browsers. So, like, Safari, Chrome, whatever. I was using Brave.   And then just forgetting about it, walking away. Come back an hour later,   and I can just hear all the fans running. Things are feeling really hot. What's going on? Check the CPU usage and the cycles and what it is. Well, it it it was going back to a tab that Rockvin had open.   So were they using distributed   CPU processing   without asking permission or disclosing that to viewers   that that was what they were doing to run.  

And I at this point,   I don't have confirmation about it, but it would seem to me if they had set that up in that way,   instead of the Ray token, were they mining Bitcoin instead, Or were they in a a pool   for something else?   So they were finding the ways to profit and maximize profit,   certainly. But the short stick was handed out to the creators, which were bringing in the viewership.   Yeah.   And that's just how the cycle continues with all of the new platforms.  

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And there was a very short time where,   because of the COVID,   the,   they   presented themselves   as a platform that was not gonna kick off or demonetize   or take away your channel   and really presented themselves   as a free speech platform and whatnot,   and and   pulled themselves in a fairly heavy share of people   all at once.   Yeah. And, then just kinda pulled the rug out from under most of them. Mhmm. And with Steve being one of those folks.   And myself, I was all I I got a rock fan also, and   it it I just,   started,   noticing some discrepancies   before   other folks did   and complained about them loudly.  



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Yes.  

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Yeah. I mean and do even   you you know, I fucking   spent all last year railing   on on Rockfin.   And still, I mean, even still, like, I I wouldn't have a show if they didn't give me a channel fucking 5 years ago. Right. You know?  

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Yeah. Yeah. Good. Oh, they were really good to the creators at the beginning. That's the real heartbreaking   part of it   is this,   they part of what they did is they took up up and coming guys and,   you know, sucked in a market share of them before they snatch the rug out from under underneath everybody.   Especially, you know, at a time when   things were rocky with YouTube for so many, and they were looking for a place to land.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. And that nobody was watching anything on Rumble,   and there was no traffic on minds or any of that other shit.  

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Mines never did take off, did it? No.   Not as far as I know. And Rumble was really bad when it started. Remember how bad, like, half the videos didn't work at all if you clicked on it? Mhmm.   It's very true. I do agree with, Christy too that the Rebel app, the Rockfin app on almost everything. If I use it on anything except for Firefox   on my computer,   I can't it's it's almost not worth watching it. And you certainly don't wanna try and use the chat. That's that's ridiculous. Don't do that.  

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I haven't like, I've never had that actual prod. The chat, yes, on mobile for sure.   I've never had a problem with the desktop chat.   They did somehow make it, like, a little bit shittier.  

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Yes. And that is,   general consensus   amongst   tech, guys all over the fact that   the optimization   of servers,   server side handling of,   pictures and video in multimedia   is not, a priority because they want you to buy new hardware.   So for people who have to   rely on the computers and the cell phones and the smartphones and the tablets that they have,   those are   purposely being crippled by the fact that things just aren't optimized.   So you have to buy the newest processor that can handle   the video.   Ever try to play a DVD on a on a cellular on processor, and it just spins and spins and spins, and then it loads sends that against place of video, and it pauses, and the DVD starts spinning up again and loads more. It's like, why why are you doing this? Well, it's not optimized.   So now you have to buy the new   Intel processor with the new screen to get the best resolution,   and that goes back to even in, like, Blu ray. So the Blu ray disc physical media,   try playing that on a Blu ray player on a computer.  

A Hollywood movie isn't gonna play because they don't have software and codecs to decode this stuff. Your best option is buying a PlayStation 3.  

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Why a 3 specifically?  

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Because PlayStation 3   is a Sony proprietary   Blu ray software, so it's all bundled together. It's made to be the best possible experience.   It's not a open format.  

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Or not a 4 doesn't have that?  

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Does a 4 have a disk drive? Does a PlayStation 5 have a disk drive? I don't fucking know.  

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Some of them did. You you say this to me, like, I fucking, like you're like, well, that's ridiculous.   Yeah. But you've been  

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Don't you talk? Yeah. Don't you talk to the geeks.  

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How fucking do the fucking video games got on? I assume they all had little discs to put in them still.  

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Nope. It's a digital delivery system.   Do you know what steam is?  

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Is this like the fucking blues clues, dude?  

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I'm giving you some clues. This is the own nothing and be happy situation where   this is how you burn a book. This is how you destroy media. This is how you change the thing. PlayStation 3 because PlayStation 45  

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don't have   disc readers.  

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The cheaper versions   don't have disc drives.   So they would be disc drives. I that's what I Right. Yeah. Right. So even if you bought a disc and put the game into your hardware   to play the game,   you'll find that the game isn't on the disk.   So you have to put the disk in to recognize that you have a key to connect to a server to download the game. So everything is connected to the Internet.  

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Nope.   Nope.  

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Not doing it. Are there more people saying no? It wouldn't be prudent. No.   Don't buy this thing.  

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Well, you gotta wonder how many people are gonna bail on crap like that where they're doing these monthly charges.   The same as, like, BMW   decided they're gonna do monthly charges on their heated seats in your car that you paid extra get to get an option in the car.   But now you also have to pay extra to have the option   usable.   Like, how long before people are just done with that? Just tired of it?  

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That's a real fatigue, a real consumer fatigue.   And with that comes the fatigue of, well, I guess all my friends are moving over to Blue Sky or whatever it is. So now I gotta try to make an account.   And then to get an account, well, maybe there's more verification involved.   So the idea of mean, Griffin,  

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sort   45¢,   sit   to Dale, 3¢.   You were made aware. I was made aware of what   the fuck kind of gibberish you talking about over here, dude? So they've got a case called It's bad as fucking Marcus up here. I don't got a fucking what the fuck's a griffane?   Why is it 45¢? I don't give a shit about a griffane.   Do it is it   my life? Is this Harry Potter? Have I been chosen for Gryffindor?  

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No. It's, I'm I'm guessing it's crypto shit. Maybe it's better than fart coin.   Maybe it is.   God give me context. Going to the moon like butthole coin,   which is an actual thing, apparently.  

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Why would I buy cryptos   at all?  

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In 2025?   I don't know that there's a compelling reason. Maybe that's a debate that we'll have to have  

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a formal We shall be having that debate.   A 100%,   Jaren,   who is a hot commodity right now, but not for this reason, not for the crypto reason. He's always been a hot Bitcoin advocate and crypto advocate.   I probably am more slithering. Yeah. You're probably right about that, Ryan.   But,   he's always been an advocate, so he's gonna come in and, debate crypto with us, which   obviously,   we're all   pretty anti crypto.  

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The the reality   of the situation   and conveniently,   I think the genesis block of Bitcoin January 3rd, how many years ago?  

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20   2009, 2010.  

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Yeah. It's it's time passes quickly, and the promise   of Bitcoin and then,   Ethereum, I think the Ray tokens that we're talking about with Rockfin   were built off of an Ethereum network. And then they switched them to,  

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like, you still have to   I think you still have to cash it   or convert it to ETH before it converts to USD.   Which you still have to do that. That's the other thing. Sure. Sure.  

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Sure. That's like financial arbitrage, isn't that? Where you have, like, currency valuations   and different time zones and places, and it's like,   well,   numbers change, graphs go up, graphs go down, you sell high, buy low, or whatever the the thing you think you're doing is to be a day trader   on a 24 hour   7 day a week market.  

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Mhmm.   You don't even get a damn disc anymore that works. It's almost like just like a fucking like, the little chit that you used to have at the movie store to take it up because there wasn't an actual movie back there, and they're going back and get a movie. You're like, that's basically what they're selling you now.   Correct.  

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Yeah. Pretty much. Yep.  

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Yeah. And, you know, is that just, government getting in the way to say, well, we don't want our kids playing violent video games, so they have to show an identification   at the Walmart.   They can't just give them cash and say, hey, I want that m rated Call of Duty game. It's like, no. And I have to show your ID to prove that What m rated mean?   Mature. Mature. Mature would be, like, 17 plus.  

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So it's like an n c 17?  

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N c 17   would be a movie rating   that isn't profitable. So they don't make those movies anymore.  

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Mhmm. You take it.   You know that that's what I was trying to make a compare a metaphorical comparison  

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because I don't understand what In in video game ratings, that would be adult only, and that would be like a boobie game. What I can offer? Better.   This is this is sort of getting into the conversation of who determines what is r rated content   and has that changed over time. But to answer the question in terms of video games, video games are   artistic   depictions of things that look more and more realistic, but you're not seeing   real breasts.   You're not it may you know, god of war and PlayStation  

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two. More real than they were on the Custer's   last stand video game with the Indian. That's true. Laura  

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Croft sold a lot of CDs.  

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Yeah. She had, like, the dye she had, like, the pyramids.  

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Yep. Yep. Correct. Yep. Freaking Roblox boobies.   Yep. That's a great way to get a kid to figure out how a computer works. Is he, you leave a Tomb Raider 2 disc around on a shelf and a computer over there? And   how do we install this game to to play the game because there's a girl on it? That's that is certainly   a motivating   factor   in marketing.   Absolutely.  

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Yeah. You you need to quit talking like this and remember that   the patriarchy is very anti female character.   So you need to stop talking like that. Like,   get in your role. Get in your role.  

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Well,   with a new president and a handover of power, you know, is that a apostolic   secession where someone touches somebody and the power just goes to the next guy?   I I don't understand what we're seeing in Oh, that's a big mouth.   Oh, we have a guest on the mic tonight. Buddy.  

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It's our big boy. Can we get some pebble snorts?  

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Let's get some pig bowl snorts. Getting some ASMR licking sound. Piggy.  

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You're gonna get a little piggy noise.  

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No. You're not gonna snort? Okay. That's fine. That's fine. You're not gonna give it to us? No. It's okay. When you ask for it. I'm not a dancing chicken.  

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You're right. It's not on demand.  

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Right.   Hi, puppy.   What do you want?  

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So are the dogs taking over and now the cats are living in fear?  

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I've picked all the cats out today.   Okay.   Suckers.   Well, except for a couple. Spookums and   my cutest kitty and stuff, but I kicked most of them out, like, and I locked up their little get in get out hole.   We're finding more. And Well, yeah. It's the worst part is is it, like, I've been kicking them out all day. They come every, like, every so often, another wave of them comes from upstairs.  

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Is that a pink wave?  

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Wave of pussy? Yeah. A pink hand wave?   Pink hand wave.   I made a pink hand well, it doesn't really look pink on screen. When I look put it on screen, it was red, but it should have been pink.   And I waved it.  

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Okay.  

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Madonna.  

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Yeah. Madonna had those those rocket boobs too. Appealing to the, the demographic in our audience.   The, inside jokes really   really helps.   I know with, CNN on their   December 31st, New Year's Eve celebration, they they allowed some people to use substances   and be on the air. Again. Oh, yeah.  

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Again. On the, on the LSD   at that, a highly regulated   substance.   Right. And I and I was That's not cannabis, which most states have legalized. That's that's nobody's legalized fucking LSD.  

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Right.   So do you know the potash guy who made, something called,   CIA weapons as, drugs as weapons against us? Yeah. Yeah.  

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Watching I think it makes me think make out sometimes.  

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Well, yeah. So I'm just realizing that, you know, a Frank Zappa   is hanging out with artist people, but not doing any of the the fun club drugs.   Is that sort of what what we're seeing again happen through this, CNN disclosure of that LSD exists, and adults can use   of that LSD exists, and adults can use it, and that's okay. But then what happens when,   you know okay. Well, let's try it, and and we don't know what moderation  

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is. All drops in New York. Right?  

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Times Square, I think.   Yeah. Times Square, New Year's Eve.  

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They haven't really done a whole bunch of crazy legalization. Like, I could see in California because there's   they've lightened up on at least mushrooms   and things like that   and decriminalize them in a lot of California.  

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Yeah. It's all plant based psychedelics. You can grow them in your house. You can grow fucking iwasps a big side shot. He didn't say he didn't say argot.  

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You know? He said he he's taking LSD.   Yeah. But that's very microdosing, though?  

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Didn't you say he was microdosing   on the New Year's Eve special?  

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Oh, my point is, how is that even allowed? Won't they just bleep that? Won't they cut the feed? Won't they go to It was live.  

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I mean, there's a delay. Right. Well, they know that, but he did not suffer back. The category of, like, where Eminem when he had his, that court case   where he said music, you know, you're doing that for an entertainment factor. That doesn't mean he's gonna go out just because he says he's gonna go out and somebody or whatever.   Doesn't mean that he's actually gonna go do that, that that's hyperbolic   in order to, you know, make it entertaining.  

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Mhmm.  

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And so I would assume that that falls under the same category. He'd be like, we thought it would be more entertaining   if we acted like we were high on LSD. That does not necessarily mean we were taking LSD.  

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My curiosity   in mentioning these cultural shifts and changes that   we find frustrating,   I don't know if everyone else finds them frustrating, but really,   how do we gather enough information amongst ourselves to take a,   selves to   take   a climate sort of check to see how warm things are, where things are cooling down   in terms just in terms of culture. Like, what are the hot topics? What are the cold topics? What are things that could get you in trouble? What are things that are gonna get you high fives and, you know,   praise for talking about?  

And how  

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with an and it's not just the new president. It's not Elon Musk. That with the social credit system coming out. They aren't pushing that at all.   Don't talk about what we want you to talk about. That's not gonna take full effect.  

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Right. So if you want to be alternative   and you wanna be punk and you wanna be against the machine and you wanna punch   Nazis  

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and play Yahtzee and do the cool things Well, no. That's not really punk anymore, isn't it? Isn't that more, like isn't that more mainstream? Isn't that, like, the whole   left side took that took and   subsumed that?  

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Right. I mean, even the idea of hot topic is now the store hot topic, but that's old news.   So to be   a young person who's in alternative,   who is a punk, who's standing against the system, you know, is it an Alex Jones sort of globalism thing that made it silly to the stand against globalism? Because Alex Jones just made it laughable.  

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Now that he's a globalist?  

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Now that he's on either Ozempic or has a personal trainer. I mean, he seems to be physically fit and really menacing.  

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Lean and mean.   And I was being a smart ass   about the patriarchy there, Gregory Walker. I I fully believe and I've you can find entire,   interviews with me where I bang on the whole interview about we're in a feminine we're in a feminine society.   We're in a feminine system.   There's nothing masculine about it.  

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Right. And that's where I'm in agreement with you. And   to to answer my own high,   rhetorical question is,   you know, now that we're in 2025, we have a new president. America's number 1 again, and, you know, everyone's really excited about everything that is gonna be fixed and repaired and moving forward.   Has it though? I mean, are we still   living   under   conditions that are   comfortable?  

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Well, they haven't even got they haven't even take Trump hasn't even taken office yet, and the free speech people are already like,   yeah. No. No. Not so much with that free speech.   And the anti globalization   people are already like,   yeah. Yeah. We really like globalization.   Let's do it American, though. We'll call it American globalization.   Now we could be pro globalization. Before bad, just globalization,   bad. American globalization,   good.  

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Mhmm.  

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Well, that's that's the branding to make America great again. Well, there was 4 years when that was sort of a goal. Now   there's a 4 year break, and now the the ping pong balls on our side of the table, and what are we doing with it? Well, if you're American and you're listening to this, unfortunately,  

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according to Vivek Ramaswami, you're an untrainable retard. So there's no hope for you.   None whatsoever,  

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puppy. Well, I mean, I I I don't disagree with that.  

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Well, okay. So then here's here's the thing. If we're going to address You know, he's gotta be right sometimes.   The the country of India, is that what they call themselves? I I don't know if we need to do a land acknowledgment at this point and what the proper procedure moving forward is to talk about   Indian people. And the question is outside. Are are we also talking about   Hindu Indians, or are we talking about Muslim Indians or Christian   Indians?   So are we talking about  

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I I I'm gonna presume that no matter what religious faith that they're that they're pretty much   the Chinese and the Indian cultures are very,   rigid and structured   where Americans are kinda wild,   where individualists,   they're not individualists.   We're a very   white culture is very individual.   And   there's,   in Chinese and Indian cultures, not so much.   And, I mean, we're talking about people that still live in a fully,   a cast system.   Like, that's hard to imagine in today's world that these people live in a full cast system to the to the point where,   somebody in lower cast goes and saves the life of somebody,   upper cast, they can get killed for having touched them.  

Like,   that's   little wild.  

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Sure. So this   is this is my concern.   If we go back   to 19 nineties where we have this global coffee house aesthetic where people are learning about Starbucks and and they're they're accessing the Internet. And now there's sort of this global village situation where we're seeing   the best   quality,   you know, food from other cultures. And Americans are just like, oh, we love it. We love it. We love it. We we love living in the city   and being able to eat from different cultures and at their restaurants and and see their fashion and their art and their music and celebrate   the best quality that they're bringing to America.  

And now in 2025,   the nightmare seems to be   the worst   aspects of that culture are put front and center,   and now we're focusing on that. So   going back to November,   December   2024,   you know, just 6 weeks ago,   read it. You know, people post their their questions in Reddit, and they have their opinions, and they share them.   There were   an influx of English speaking Indians   who were flooding   the boards. Now people   aren't using their face, so you don't really know anything about them. But people were   very Indian in their posting and the way they're posting.   And there's maybe some accounts that were   parody Indians to be, like, pretending to be the worst possible Indian for humor for trolling effect. But but this really riled people up,   And the assumption was   on English speaking   social media sites   that the people behind the usernames would   look like me, share the same values as me, know the same music, these types of things.  

But this was the shock   that   there are Indians in India who are posting on American message boards,   and that's a bad thing.   So then there was a racist   backlash to say,   we don't want to have this   change the culture of the board. So the culture,   the topics that were posted, the things that were uploaded   and celebrated,   it was very insular,   the people that were there. But then the culture changed and now people are hating on them. And the result was   that was weaponized against certain subreddits   to get those subreddits   banned   because the moderation  

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staff wasn't Is this what happened to,   Glow?  

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His story about posting to the Donald subreddit  

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for a time and then read it Doesn't he run with all the Indian kids? Isn't that who he tries to get to be alpha boy? You know, tries to take all these little bobs and vasheen dudes and tries to  

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Correct. So that has to do with   globalism   on the Internet where   people from all these different countries are all showing up to the same places   and posting at at them. And then because   of the weaponization   of that, people are saying words that are offensive. And because too many offensive words   are being posted, it gets targeted,   and then they just delete the whole space where the conversation was happening. Yeah.   So the point I'm making here in in a in a greater sort of,   concern that I'm sharing   with the force of this,   Indian immigrant h one visa thing   because people are upset about it or they have questions about it. And maybe   they're being a little insensitive   in the way they're phrasing questions and trying to learn about this new topic, it comes across as being   white supremacists,   patriarchal, all the things that are insensitive.  

So then that whole conversation gets shut down and removed.   Yeah.   So that's my question   in terms   of what conversations   are hot and are   encouraged to be warfare   on our social media platforms   for the sole purpose of   having casualties,   taking down accounts   Mhmm. Taking down platforms   in place where people are having   conversation.   So it might seem like it's more open,   but let's be suspicious and treat that as a trap and tread gently.   And then wait   and see   if there's   people that are punished   for their post histories and for the things they're saying.  

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Yeah. I mean,   if,   you know, it's down to individual   executives   at   social media companies to decide   what is and isn't sensory. But we already know   over the whole   last several years   that multiple different governments   lobby for things to be   removed or individuals   to be removed   all the time   all the time. So there's a truly a censorship industrial   complex  

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Right.  

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That doesn't, yeah, doesn't have borders. It just it only has,   you know, individual   petty agendas that get   enacted out under the name of national security or   this violates our misinformation policy   because they're telling you things that we don't like.  

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Right.   And it makes me feel nervous or anxious   that you're posting about that. So I report to you, and then depending on what country you're in, you'll get a knock at your door or someone has a mental health check to say,   how are you feeling? You're you know, we we know your post history   because   you're logged in to your Twitch account,   which is connected to your Microsoft account, which is connected to your Windows   PC, which sees all your keystrokes. So it's like   the illusion of privacy   was already shattered with, you know, snow does. It's like we have to be reminded again and again and again and again.   Let's not get too comfortable here.  



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Mhmm.   Well and I mean, you know, we tell people on the show all the time. There's the digital world and ever increasingly in the three-dimensional one. There's   only operational security. There's no such thing as privacy. Most people have   none to next to no   operational security.   Yeah. So it's all out there. You know?  

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But then to be an influencer,   you give up all of that   for the opportunity to see,   could I get paid for the things that I'm already doing?  

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Mhmm.  

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Yeah. And then at that point,   they know who you are.   You've identified yourself to multiple companies,   to multiple   platforms.  

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Is it fair?  

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And then at that point, you you can't be the alternative. You're only an influencer if you get paid?   That's a good question. Are influencers   defined by them being   paid?   I think that's the goal of every influencer, isn't it? To be compensated to do brand deals,   to have advertisements run on your stuff and then receiving payouts for that?  

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I mean,   it's definitely a   workable business model if you   don't you know, you never wanna have   an opinion or a thought again.   Listen, Marcus.  

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Mhmm. Just because   you're ready to suck Ricola Dick   in order to get your throat lozenged,  

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doesn't mean the rest of us are. It's true. Well, you should be because this is   how I   fuel these streams and keeps my vocal cords   operating.  

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Have you ever even once tried to go,   Ricola.  

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Let me just let me just tell you. I tried these dollar store off brand things, and you know what? It's just   painful.   It hurts. It makes my   mouth feel worse and my throat just   tighten up in the worst possible way.   These are bricolas.   Every time. Never disappoints.  

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Never never disappoint. Never disappoints.   The last influencer I knew gave me influenza. I couldn't use some recall.  

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Good stuff. Good stuff.  

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Oh,  

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shit. You got any news on swine flu? Are we doing a big,   sickness?  

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They did find the first human case of bird flu   or first death,   of bird flu or something like that.  

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It was in the US. Snuffleupagus?  

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It was not mister snuffleupagus.  

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Oh. Well Yeah.  

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Question then. So maybe we don't have a really big one,  

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but maybe we still have maybe Maybe you don't have a big one.  

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So,   I mean, hey. Fortunately   for,   America and the rest of the world, Poppy Warp Speed is heading back into the White House. So Yeah. It'll be it'll be okay. It'll be okay.   It'll be brand new mRNA treatments and  

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all kinds of neat little rules. Gonna have $2 gas because the gas was all Biden's fault despite the fact that Trump put a tariff   or or not a tariff.   He full on embargoed Iran, and every time historically you embargo Iran, it doubles gas prices   and did that right before he left office. So it almost seems like, wow. Weird. Like,   the prices were gonna double anyways.  

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So we can have   $2  

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gas, but if your vehicle repair is We're not gonna get that now because they're banging on about how good it is to be at war with Iran. They're trying to bang the Iran war drum unless Iran is in the oil trade.   Gas don't get cheaper.  

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Vehicle repairs   aren't   getting cheaper. So even if we have $2  

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gas, that's a dream, but we're not taking those cheap. Dollars 17 for a fucking taillight because it's the whole unit.  

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Dude, I just I just saw a dude who's just getting injector cups on a truck like mine.   They want $44100   just to do the injector cups. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me right now?   Holy holy cow. I can't imagine doing a job like my rear end or something like that, what that would cost. I really don't.   I mean, it didn't cost us that much. I got a whole brand new rear end. I mean, carrier and everything upgraded for, like, $1500.   But you're gonna if you're gonna pay them, apparently, that's like an $8,000 job or something.  

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And then you're parking your vehicle until you can save up money to repair it. I I do see a lot of people driving   the ill the electric bicycles   Yeah.   In January.  

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We were just recently in the city, and I've seen a lot of that.  

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Yep. But And I know those people would prefer to have a windshield and 4 doors and a ceiling so they don't have to experience the windshield. Well, then also, how many of those people also don't have a driver's license, don't,  

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you know, for whatever reason. Because I don't think if you if it's electric like that, as long as it's,   given size, I don't think you need any kind of a license or insurance or any of that.   So, I mean, you're really   avoiding a lot of expenses with it, not just the gas.  

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Well, maybe we could argue that we should have more licenses and more insurances.  

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I would argue against that.   But you do have to you have to carry,   for those ebikes, like, there's a couple of hoops you have to jump through and stuff like that. They're not yeah.   It's like  

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you can get pulled over on them. You you know? Well, sure. I'm sure you still have to navigate. You still have to follow normal traffic laws, but can't you just fucking put in, like, a couple bucks in a little machine on the way by? The last time I was in San Francisco, you just put a couple bucks in the machine and just you're off and ripping.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. That's that's the cities   that put in   the infrastructure   to have ebikes available on rental   so you could drive a bike around the city.  

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But I'm saying, obviously, there's not a driver's license requirement or anything like that   because it's an ebike.   So that's a huge thing.   You you imagine how many people that could still want transportation, but now that you're on a electric bike, you don't even you don't even get checked for a driver's license. It's not even a thing. As long as you obey normal traffic laws,   you're good to  

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go. Yeah. I haven't looked up the laws to see if,   you know, certain size ebikes   are regulated. Like, if you have a smaller one, could it drive,   you know, a   sidewalk that has little arrows? Like, they they'll print diamonds on some of the sidewalks   where you can drive, and, like, children can ride bikes on them.   But   as far as enforcement   of traffic violations because   adults are riding ebikes   on sidewalks  

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and jaywalking with them and not stopping at stop signs. But that's once again, you're breaking traffic regulations. That's a whole different thing than having regulations just to ride the ebike.  

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Sure. So then I'm arguing in favor   of, you know,   letting the   You would still have to follow those same set traffic regulations. You couldn't go What I'm stating is the ebike rider doesn't know the traffic violations because they haven't taken the behind the wheel test that would require them to get a driver's license. So you're advocating for for,  

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electric   motored vehicles,   small motors like that to require a driver's license now?   That's what you're saying?  

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I'm talking about the education   wherein   community   ed would offer   a more affordable option for students to   take a written test to get a driver's permit,   there was still an out of pocket expense   for that.   So what I'm saying is   there could be an option for   that to be   a a class taken in high school   for people who   want to go through the program, get a equivalent of a permit,   and then not have to pay for it because it would be included in it. So to remove the barrier permit for ebikes?  

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I'm talking about removing  

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the removing the cost of getting the education.  

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I I'm not  

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yeah. I'm not sure I follow.  

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The the question was with  

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riding an ebike and not having a driver's license. Having the driver's license is Well, I was stating. I wasn't stating. That wasn't a question. I was stating that   with the ebike, you don't need a driver's license nor do you need insurance. So there's other benefits to it besides not paying just for the   insurance, so there's other benefits to it besides not paying just for the gas.   That you like, say you're an illegal immigrant. Say you've had a DUI.   Say, you know,   what you've had your driver's unpaid fines.   Whatever,   an ebike,   all those people can ride an ebike.  



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Sure. So then here's the question I'll ask you then. What is the difference between   an ebike  

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and a motorcycle, and who determines what's the difference? Motor and a gas motor.  

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Okay.   So are there Also, there's Are there motorcycles  

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that have the same cc and horsepower capacity that Horsepower capacity doesn't doesn't apply on an ebike. It it don't matter. It's just it's electric or gas, a gas or regulated electric or not.   In that way, they switch again. They start their follow traffic laws. That's   that's a whole separate issue. If you were on a horse, you couldn't go blow them through a stoplight. And that's where I pause to say the issue of understanding the traffic law  

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goes to the education.  

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And Once again, that you could be on a horse,   you could be on a skateboard,   you could,   be on roller blades,   you you could you could have lassoed a pig and be hopping along on a pig. Mhmm. You would still get that ticket   if you blow through that stoplight.  

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Okay. So I understand your excitement. You've got a new ebike for Christmas.   You haven't driven a car before. You don't know traffic rules, but you've got the means to go to the other side of town.   And then at that point, the officer pulls you over because you're not stopping at stoplights, you're endangering pedestrians, you're weaving in and out of traffic.   Does the officer say, you know what? Here is the website to download the PDF to read the traffic regulations. Please read them before you ride your bike again.  

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No. They make you take a class. They give you a ticket, and they make you take a class. And you've got a sheriff that teaches the ebike safety class, and you have to go give up 4 hours of your Saturday or something like that to to do it. That's that's the process.  

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Okay.  

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So then is that   after   getting   recognized for your poor driving behavior,   you receive the benefit of a of of a   free education.  

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Yeah. No. It's not free. You you pay you paid the ticket. So you're paying the fine, and then you're also required to pay for the class also.   And and no. It's a well, I guess it depends by, county by county. But  

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yeah. Sure. The night the nice thing with them ebikes is they come in full size because on gas motors, this also applied to anything under 50 cc.   So for so like you see a lot of those little pocket bikes are 49 cc.   And 49 cc, you don't need a license,   and all that. Where 50 cc, you do.   But then little 49 cc bikes are all tiny, you know, where an adult's not gonna ride that so much.  

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So Oh, that's hilarious. Is there any concern about people modifying these ebikes, you know, pimping out their rides,   making them   run faster?   And is that all unregulated?  

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I don't know. How do you   mod out an electric motor?  

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Right.  

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Like, what? Do you just, like, get an extra battery and jump it on there? Like, you know, like, fucking we're rolling along and, you know, hey, Steve. Open up that compartment. Marcus, grab the cables.  

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What?  

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You know, like, I You you would give it more electricity. I I you know, I don't know. That's what I'm saying. You know? How how does that even work?  

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Right. So now with the   ebike situation,   that seems to be taken on. People are comfortable with ebikes.  

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And that's I I got to imagine that the as those   more of them appear,   there's gonna be regulations that are gonna appear with it. There's just no way there's not. And and then there's gonna be   motors   that even if you can't mod the motor,   bigger motors are gonna come out. You're gonna as soon as you see a dude ripping by on 60 on an ebike,   just know that there's regulations coming.   Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah.  

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Right now, they can only go, like, 35 tops. Yeah. And   the city bikes and stuff like that have a governor on them to where they don't go over, like, 15.  

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Sure. So then let's let's zoom out a little bit and examine, you know, the success of ebikes   and culture and say, well,   you might see that as a benefit to some people. But now if that's   what   low income   people are   not enforced to, but all the other options are eliminated,  

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So that's the only option that remains for them. So we just end up looking like a 3rd world country with a bunch of people running around on little e bikes. Again, a little carriers on the back, little carts. Oh, fuck, dude. I wanna see Marcus driving one of those. I I I I will buy him the little hat, and I want Marcus on a fucking little ricochet bike. You know?   I I dude, he's got the beard. He's already got the beard.  

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This this is he he he you know what? I'll deliver 80 gigabytes to you, and you can call me Johnny Mnemonic.  

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K. You know how few people know that movie?  

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Too few people.  

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Yeah. It was   real bad movie from back in the nineties. Oh, man. I I I I remember it. It's from when I lived in South Dakota, and the only thing to do is go to the movies on the weekend because everything was frozen bought frozen cold, and you're not 21 yet. So,   yeah, went and saw Johnny Mnemonic, and wow. Was that bad?   Real bad.   Had iced tea in it, though.   Equally bad. He just got in a bunch of trouble for driving around without,   I was watching the video. It's pretty hilarious because I do this too, so it just made me laugh. I'm not even judging the guy. But the cops, like, pulls him over because his plates hadn't been registered in, like, 4 years. And he's like,   it god pulls him over, and he's like, yeah. I'm on my way. I'm just going to get it registered now. Yeah. I'm just gonna take care of it. Alright. And he got pulled it over, and he's like, it's been 4 years. He goes, yeah. I'm going to take care of it. Like,   he goes, okay. I see your driver's license.  

And   he goes in the hands of 2 goes, that's expired too. Like, yeah. I'm gonna take care of it. Like  

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Oh, fuck. Mean you're gonna tow it? No, dude. I'm driving it to DMV right now.  

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Yeah. It's just right over here. It's over in that. Yeah. I can't go over there.  

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Oh,  

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fuck. When the cop went fucking I can't remember. There was one time I got pulled over, and it'd been, like, 4 or 5 years since I got the plates on my truck and the cop did that to me. He's just like I was like, yeah. I've been working on taking care of you. It's been 4 years. Like,   it's taken me a minute.  

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I mean, I've had some things come up, guy. Yeah. I don't   know. You've never had a complicated life. You sit there judging me, Tubby.   I had to read You got all day to sit down in the DMV?  

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Like, you can just do that any fucking day, and it's only open some days. I don't know even know why you bothering me.  

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Right?  

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And my other complaint is because a president reached a 100 years old and then died, you know, he should have stayed alive. But on Thursday,   the United States Postal Service, the   USPS,   is taking the day off.  

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Okay. They're like, are are they all are they all gonna   eat Lunafisk that day? Because that was the weakest, stinkiest fish of a president that's ever been. Well, I, you know, I didn't clarify  

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as to whether or not no one is allowed to enter a USPS   facility if their doors remain locked, lights off.  

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No. You can still go in to go get your your if you rent a box, that's never closed.  

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Yeah.  

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They're just not gonna have a service counter person.  

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They won't be making mail deliveries on Thursday. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Because a weak fish of a president who who was just horrible.   Just   horrible. Died.   Yeah.   I mean, he he wasn't,   overtly, like,   actively bad person,   but he did nothing   good. Like, he was just, like, completely impotent, like a eunuch of a president. So do you have one term?   Mhmm.  

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Did he make people feel better about Vietnamese   situations?  

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Well, I mean,   we were in such a way weird state back then, very similar to the one that we're in right now,   where   we had   the whole democratic the DNC   shakeup where   the DNC is similar to the way it was is now   was a very moneyed party,   and they tried to push humor Hubert Humphrey the third down everybody's throats.   And the people named the Metrodome after. They wanted the Quincy. Right. Right. Right. They wanted somebody to name the Metrodome after. I know. And,   they,   and   we're actually pushing George McGovern,   which is a really super interesting thing because South Dakota's got, like, no people whatsoever.  

And both McGovern and Humphrey are from South Dakota.   Like,   just wild. I mean, I know the Metrodome's named after him, but the guys from either Condie or Dolan, I don't remember which, South Dakota. They're right next to each other. I don't remember which one it is.   But the people   wanted McGovern. And the money people, similar to the Bernie Sanders thing with Hillary Clinton said, nah. You're getting this other person   and overrode the will of the people. Only back then, people had more gumption, and they had a full on riot.   And this is what led to Nixon.  

And then that was such a horrifying   fiasco with Watergate and all that. That's what led to Carter   who is just   worthless.  

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And there's the whole   ritual   celebration   ceremony happening to recognize   this, presidential figure.  

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Trump's all bummed because the flags have to fly at half mast   during his inauguration.   Because after a US president dies in DC all around, they fly the flags at half staff for, like, a,   like, 60 days or 30 days or something like that,   and it's gonna   fall within   his his inauguration.  

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Interesting.  

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Old man Bush has gotta be about ready to to drop off any.  

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Well, I think they have to fill up some paperwork and and schedule their time of of leaving this mortal coil just to make sure that the US Postal Service can schedule their time off and not deliver.   Mhmm.  

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You're talking about you're talking about Poppy Bush? Yeah.  

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Senior guy? He died  

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in freaking 2018.  

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Oh, jeez. I I I I somehow pay. I somehow pay. Did she have a smoke of a store right now? Now I do remember that. That's right. Yep.   Yeah. And Clinton and and w, they aren't that they aren't that old. They'll be around for a while.  

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Yep.   I don't know, man. Bill Clinton looks like he's full in the middle of, like, syphilis rot.   He is not looking good, man.   It'd be nice if he'd start a podcast. You know? They stopped giving them podcast. They stopped giving them the adrenochrome from the unvaxxed kids, and   now he's just disintegrating   in front of our eyes.   It's it it takes its toll. It takes even He didn't even turn up when his wife got the presidential medal of freedom.  

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Oh, wow. That the things that the Biden administration's   doing here at the end,   just   wild.  

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Right? Let's give George Soros a presidential medal of freedom and give one to Hillary Clinton. We'll have Magic Johnson bend over and twerk for him. It'll be great.  

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Dude, and then, yeah, the picture of Clinton, because I saw the picture of Clinton getting it. And   in the background   is John Magic Johnson,   the the outside of EZE.   He was the second person I remember   having   the the Hivs. The Hiv. Yeah. And, he somehow   he's just fine still years later. He's back there just yeah.   Him and Bill Bill guy, the actor guy,   you know, are back there chilling out.   And I'm like, wow. And that's honestly, that picture,   that comment at the beginning of the show when I said,   you had 2 things I remember when you we first started your little coin phrases.   Literally, that picture is the one that made me think, god, it is just so overwhelmingly cartoonish now. Freaking cartoon,  

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Ridiculous.   Yeah.   Yeah.  

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Is it a fun cartoon?  

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For proof.   See, right there. Live in a cartoon.   Yep.   Mhmm. Get masks. Are people still masking out? What are you seeing? Oh, yeah. Yeah. There was an uptick in it over the holidays.   At least here,   you know, Bay Area.  

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Right. So there was the concern about, you know, particulates in fog, and people were digging up   papers   and, declassified documents about using   fog for various purposes   that could contribute to, you know, a few days of some real big sniffles and, you know, flu like symptoms. I don't know if it has HIBs   like symptoms.  

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You know?   Because I don't ever remember   every single year people in this time of year getting sick.   I don't remember that at all.   If yes. It's always happened.   Mhmm. Forever.   People have been scooped up inside for a little while. You're you're you're breathing horrifying air. You're the weather's bad. There's,   you know, things building up in your home that you need to let out.   This is a very typical thing, and you get sick in the winter. You get sick. And again,   in the some like, in the spring when the thing everything changes again, it's just your body adjusting. Yeah.   I don't know why there has to be a magic fog.  



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Because   you can't get people scared enough to give up what remaining rights they have   if it's just seasonal illness.  

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Do we have flu shot numbers for the season so far? Are are those numbers up? Or are more people   trusting in their local pharmacy and their grocery store to deliver   a   healthy, happy flu shot to them to keep them from does that prevent them from getting the flu? Or does it just make the flu like symptoms   less?   How are they marketing? Because they would sell them to older people   to say you guys are   and your body's breaking down, your immune system might,   be more   susceptible to whatever's going around, but we can't really tell you what's   going around or how that works. But you know what? Here's a here's a flu, and maybe it's covered by your your health care provider.  

So schedule your your flu shot today.  

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Yeah. I'm up at the schedule it. You could just walk into a freaking   CVS or   a Walmart or a Safeway or No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.   No   Literally, no. There's no line for it, but I mean, literally, just about anywhere on the the with a freaking storefront will shoot you up.  

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Well, you know, I I I wondered why, you know, great clips didn't get in on this. So, like, I get a haircut.   You're already sitting in the chair. You're not doing anything.   Yeah. So, I mean, innovation in business, there are still opportunities,  

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obviously. I just listened to Then they'd have to name their their   their store cut stick and boot. You know, you cut cut the hair, stick them, and boot them out the door. Oh, I thought that you would get a free boot kiss. You'd get to lick a a boot for free.   Well, that was also in there. Okay. That was implied. Alright.  

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It's like a leather. Do they even allow real leather boots to be made? Or is PETA completely prevent the people from purchasing leather? Oh, no. You can still get leather boots. 100%.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Yeah.  

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American made even.  

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America.  

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Yeah.  

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So are we bringing back manufacturing   in the industry,   Or is that gonna stay down in Mexico in Monterrey right up against the border, and then we're just gonna take that part of Mexico into USA? Yeah. That's what I would say. Mexico. America. America.  

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You know the easiest way to get by a terrace?   We just move the border.   Right. We're not gonna build  

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new facilities,   you know, in the next 2 to 3 years to get things operating.  

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We we could them, we could just take theirs. They're already  

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merrick. They're already working. We just have to draw a line around them to include them in our border.   So it's good that he didn't build a wall.   Maybe we could build   better infrastructure   over the border and put more lanes on those highways.  

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Yeah.  

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Mhmm. Are we gonna need photo IDs to cross, though, or is that gonna are they gonna remove the photo ID requirements for crossing the border at that point?  

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I mean, if it's all part of the   Greater greater Yeah.   Then,   ostensibly, you would be able to travel anywhere within the borders of it as a citizen.  

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Not not not now   how many people live in Denmark even?  

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Not a ton.  

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Denmark.   Where is Denmark?   Is that by Greenland?  

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Northern Europe.  

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Well, they own Greenland. Just below,  

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like, scandalous.  

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They're the ones stopping Greater America   because, obviously, it's not Canada doing it. So we've seen fucking gains.   And John Candy by himself   can can   could defeat Canada even though, yes, I know he's he's passed. I'm aware.   The ghost of John Candy   alone   just with his actual humor.   5.9.   So if you add,   Canada and Denmark   together,   we we come up with about 6,000,000 people. So, yeah, I don't know that that's a big fight gonna happen.   That's why I I also laugh when all these when when all the   politics, you know, and the liberal politics when they go on about it and some of these things. It's like,   you know, that whole fucking country is less than any major city in the United States. Right?  

Like, I understand that they have certain policies that it that they're able to do, but   you're you're you're talking   a much   crazier larger scale.   And our country,   because it's so much larger, is also,   a republic.   And so each of the individual states inside that have rights   and aren't supposed to be getting pushed around by the overall federal government,   something liberals absolutely forget.   Mhmm.  

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I just forgot what you said. Could you say it again? What's the point about   liberals?  

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Well, that they forget that we're individual states in a republic, so each so the the federal government not supposed to have overwhelming power. And you wanna grab this, Chad? Check it out.  

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Overwhelming power and just push around the states and do things. So Bad big bad Trump pushed around to Trudeau in Canada, and the guy's already saying I'm done. I'm out of here. Right?   So Trudeau in Canada has just,   said I'm done. Just take it.  

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No. That wasn't Trump. That wasn't Trump. Canada is just slightly behind us.   No different than,   like I said,   you know, again, when Steve back when Steve first started,   my my prediction was that they're pushing so hard to the crazy left that there's gonna be an ultra hard swing to the right coming.   And Canada was just a little behind,   and their ultra hard swing to the right's coming now. And Trudeau   is stepping out before the bloodshed happens.  

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No. I mean, he's, you know   Yeah.   Technically,   until there's a Canadian election, he doesn't have to leave. All he said is that he was stepping down as the head of the party. Yeah. He's always stepping down his head of the party. He's not stepping, but he knows that  

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he knows that he's gonna lose this next election. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a 100%.   And he and not only is he supposed to lose, it's supposed to be a red wave similar to the, the United States election in November, where   basically it's conservative   across the board. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.   And so   he is bailing and not only that, but his   right hand, you know,   person   also said, no. No. I'm not taking the fall on this either. I'm not gonna be the one that oversees the sinking of the ship. Mhmm. And that's that's what's going on there is they're just trying to not be the captain when the 6th when the ship sinks.  

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Yep.   Yep.   And then,   the dude who's gonna replace him,   Pierre Polover or whatever his name is.   We played a clip of him this morning.   You brought up,   Iran earlier   and how the   incoming administration   has a particular   hard on for war with them.  

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War drops.  

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Yep.   Pierre Poliver is on you   know, was talking the other day   and saying that, well, if if Israel   wipes Iran off of the map, that's a a gift   to humanity from the Jewish state. That's a quote. It's a quote.  

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Wow.  

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Wow. Did he tweet that? Did he no. He said it to a camera,   on a microphone,   the part of, like,   a press conference or something. Wow.   Yeah.  

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Wow.  

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So   no.   It's not really gonna be,   you know,   any massive difference in foreign policy.  

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Does Iran have, like, a military march song that we can listen to just to kinda see?  

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Iran? Do they? I'm sure they do.  

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So it's interesting that none of the we can't seem to provoke a fight with any of the right wingers.  

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Yeah.  

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Even though we're   all ready to, you know, crap on Trump, crap on Elon,   and things like that.   They don't want they would definitely they're all about picking fights with these,   you know,   real   real stupid   liberals   who can't, you know, put 2 thoughts together, but   they won't come fight with us for some reason. And I've   been try I've been trying pretty hard. Yeah. And, you know,   I know Steve   has a a large platform and is   well known and connected.   And you get guys like   you know?   You you see him debate some real idiots, but they won't debate anybody like us. It's, I don't know what to say about it.  

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Yeah. I mean,   it I think a lot of those guys don't know how to have a conversation   outside of partisan whataboutism.   And so   if you aren't   just the ideological   opposite, they don't really know what to do.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. Like, when I when I can say something like, yeah. I couldn't stand by nor the liberal parties, but I would never vote for Trump. I'm an actual patriot.   I'm an actual veteran.   I can't I am in shock that any veteran   would   vote for a guy that   skipped the draft.   Sure, he got a a rich boy's medical exemption.   Who cares? You skipped the draft. You should never be commander in chief of the army. You were too too good   to go serve. You don't get to be chief.   Like, how how how are you claiming you're a patriot otherwise?  

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Well, he developed his his patriotism   later in life, Ben. Later in life.  

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Yeah. Of course, he wants us to be good patriots and go off and go to war for him. Yeah. And he wasn't ready to.   You know, if we're talking military How do you at all claim the supposed to do legal values? How do you watch a video of him saying flat out that all you had to do to be president if you wanted to do it was run on a republican ticket   and say, I love God. I'm conservative.   I'm against immigration.   And, yeah, I would win. And then that's what he did, and then he won. And then say that he actually believes what you believe, and he didn't just follow a script that he said if he followed, he would win.   Mhmm.  



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It's, it's a humble brag for him to say what he's gonna do and then do it and win, and people just went along with it. And I do have questions about the military in a place called Bragg. Is there a fort called Bragg?   In the news recently,   producing   some some bad behavior, some mischievous   behavior? What are we talking about? There's been reports of people, you know, who have been committing some boo boos,   doing some man. Man. Man. The cyber  

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truck   dude in Vegas   on New Year's and then the New Orleans  

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guy who drove a truck into people. Have they been pop out? Stationed in Bragg?  

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Both stationed at Bragg and   the Ryan   Rausch,   the dude who was gonna take a shot at Trump on the golf course   that   seriously spooked up freaking weirdo.   Mhmm. Apparently, had been to Bragg,   like, 60 times and stayed overnight there almost half of those times.  

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Are they gonna change their name or shut down or, you know, go under Where does the psyop division is headquartered anyway?  

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Okay. I thought I thought that was in, Leonard Wood.  

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No. It's one it's one of them,   but the the same fucking   army sci ops division that put out those ghost in the machine videos and stuff like that. Mhmm. That's brag.  

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So brag is developing a reputation.  

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Get trained in Leonard Wood. Mhmm.  

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Yeah.   But, like, operators and stuff like that, and they're they're they're   all out of Bragg.   Like, a couple of different locations for where they have, you know, specialized camps and stuff like that.   But, I mean, because you can go from Bragg down to fucking,  

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Oh, it's Fort. Christy Kringle says it's Fort Liberty now. It's not Bragg. Oh,  

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that's right.  

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Well, again, change the name of a location. It's still the same building. It's still the same people running it.  

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Delta Force trains in Bragg, she says,  

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for part of the time, and then they go down to Georgia.  

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Interesting.   Like I said,   so when I was in, it was at least special forces, and I thought Delta trained in in, Fort Leonard Wood, and all the spooks got trained in Leonard Wood.   When I was in AIT,   a lot of this,   spies and anti spies and other things like that were all in school with us because   they would get stuck so long waiting for clearance. Because some of these guys, it would take them 2 years to do clearance.   Like, you know, I was just a mechanic in the army. I wasn't named by special, so   my background check was fairly mild. You know, they had that completed before I was out of boot camp. But   these guys that are doing these other things,   they go around and talk to everybody they've ever talked to   and and have a conversation with them about the person.  

And,   some of them, it takes years. So they may while they're doing that,   they have them take, like, mechanics,   cool,   different operator schools, tanker school. You know? So that way, any kind of equipment that they get out in the field with, they're trained on basically everything. Well, that takes years. So they do that while they're waiting on their clearance and all that was in,   Leonard Wood when I was down in there.  

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Alright. Are you saying there's been a lot more success stories coming out of that,   building, that that property than there have been capital t terrorists?   So, I mean, that's just gonna be what happens. You you put a bunch of people through it, and some of them turn out to be, you know, bad actors. And,  

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well, you know, that's just the price of doing business. Yeah. I'm sure. I'm sure. You know? I'm sure not everybody passes clearance.   I  

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mean, I guess the cyber truck dude was an 18   year operator.   Hey, dog. What are you doing?  

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When was the last time he was active?  

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I don't  

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know. Because, like, my cousin, her her dad, it was a   a navy seal sniper. And   when he got deactivated,   I think they kept it was still 2 years before they fully released him because they were deprogramming him. It took 2 or 3 years. I don't remember which   before they let her dad back   to the general public, you know, freely.  

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Yeah.  

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And when I was in, they told you, like, especially in, like I said, Leonard would go look those guys dead in the eye, and then it's like a fucking pit bull. They'll snap.   And then you're probably gonna get hurt or or or deleted.   One or the other. Just just leave them alone. Don't look them in the eyes.   You you know, you can tell them because they really do have that 1,000 mile stare, that 100 mile stare or a, you know, a 1000 yard stare or whatever they call it. Mhmm. They just walk around, and it's like they're not there. And you can see it in their face right then and there. As soon as you walk in, you're like, oh,   nope.  

Nope. Just just just just fucking   nope.  

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Yeah.  

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Alright.  

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Just dump all the news on us. You know, everyone goes back to work and school, and,   you know, Monday Tuesday have just been such huge news dump days   that there's no way we're gonna get through all of the details of all of these stories.   It's almost as if the media wanted to say, hey, remember  

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remember us? When we were kids, we would still today be talking about the assassination attempt. Right. And pulling through the details of that still today like it would like it just happened yesterday.   I remember   when I was 18 or 19 years old,   fucking,   OJ the OJ Simpson trial was on TV every day,   fucking all day for a fucking year,   a fucking year. And we only got 2 channels at fucking interstate Detroit Diesel. And so at lunchtime, it was either watch Ricky Lake or some shit like that or,   the OJ Simpson trial, and no no mechanics are gonna sit there and watch,   you know, Geraldo or whatever. Right. Like, that's not happening.  

So fucking we were all ready to see OJ get hanged by the end just because we were tired of fucking listening to his trial for a year. And now   literally,   we had   a air quotes,   Brett, assassination   assassination attempt on an   ex president and at the time,   most likely   incoming president.   And   that was forgotten about within days. I mean, it's something that gets brought up, you know, like, as a quip, like, oh, yeah. They tried to take him out. But, I mean, is it something that truly gets talked about, you know, in a meaningful way? No. Will anyone write a book about it? Is anyone  

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gathering all the information  

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and sticking to their story? Since Andrew motherfucking Jackson, has there been another president that's had that many attempts on him? That's no names.  

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I I didn't learn that in history class then. It was a family name. He came from a long line of motherfuckers.  

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So it's Andrew Jackson. Has there been another president,   like, that's had that many open attempts?   And Jackson crashed the federal well, it wasn't called the Federal Reserve, but it that's what it basically was. Jackson crashed the Federal Reserve.   Like, yeah, he got a lot of attempts on him.  

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So with   attempts on people's lives, there's a guy, Luigi mansion guy. The   not affiliated with Nintendo, not affiliated with McDonald's, but seem to serve as a Who?  

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A a guy who His name is Rigatoni Tortellini  

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or something like that. Oh, the the insurance guy. He had back  

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problems.   Maybe he had some concern about,   you know, not performing. He had some concerns about  

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something, and he, you know, he he, launched some I have theories on that, and, actually, I wouldn't mind debating that with a girl   where   I have a theory that girls like dudes like that because   they're at least willing to step out and do something. You know? Step up in some way. So even if you're   pushing against the system,   I think that there's some girls that just appreciate that.   And so he's got a giant female following.   And people are like, well, why do they like criminals? I don't think it's necessarily that you're a criminal. I think it's that you're willing to buck the system.   And   anybody that's willing to do that and step out and be their own man,   that's that's attractive to them where all these little sheepy sheeps that, you know, whether it's red or blue or whatever, or just following along the line, that's not quite so sexy.  

Like, find a jury. When you have a a male leader, savior, Trump, emperor, god, or whatever.  

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Sure. So then you mentioned the OJ trial and how that was just   news and news and news and every little thing that happened in the trial. That was a day. Every day. Every year. Detail was talked about for an hour.   Every little detail was a new detail in the story, and they overtalk that.   Are   they going to allow the judge is the judge gonna allow cameras   into the Luigi trial? Is there going to be a a televised   trial? Is this going to be   too much of a a a populist,   celebration of the people celebrating  

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the death of a big fan? I'm assuming there's gonna be a media spectacle, so they're gonna automatically   narrow that down to a pool of who's allotted to go in there is what I'm assuming. Steve is definitely the if he'd if he'd pay a fucking attention, he's the expert on this kind of thing It could tell us exactly how this is gonna work.  

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Well, we have the next drop my earbuds. 12 months to talk about it. You know, there's there's a lot to talk about in this Luigi   guy's story. Steve,  

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who are they gonna allow in the courtroom for rigatoni's   thing?  

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A guy who looks exactly like Jack Ruby. Is this discrimination?   What they're gonna do?  

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There is that photo of Luigi wearing a sweater.  

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They dressed him identically.   They dressed him identically to Lee Harvey   Oswald. Like, the exact same color sweater, the exact same color stack. Was that his was that his team deciding how they're gonna dress for the photo? Dude, I'd I think I think that I think that kid was set up   like a freaking stack of bowling pins. I think he fucking   I I do not think that he pulled the trigger on that dude. I the his family   and all of the stuff that they're caught up in or they do for money,   is directly connected   to   the freaking   Baltimore mob families  

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that Nancy Pelosi comes from. Sure. So then I'll ask you, does the adoration   the public is outpouring for this guy   seem to kinda conspiracy   proof it in terms of   people not wanting to get to the truth of the situation.  

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I don't know if it makes it conspiracy   proof,  

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but it'll There's no audience who wants   to have that angle   explored.  

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Yeah.   Yeah.   Well, no. They're really I mean, that's not gonna stop a bunch of people from exploring it, but they won't get the kinda airtime it deserves. But I I've seen the gotta get explored like mad. In 20 years, that dude's gonna get talked about similar to the way  

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Manson does where people are gonna do whole 3 hour breakdowns on   dark rigatoni.  

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Mhmm. Sure. And I   I've had this thought before,   but it seems like, you know, we mentioned the idea of it being set up in some way.   There is the the movie deal, the book deal, all the   the storytelling,   the the   who's gonna play him in the movie, and who's gonna play him in the documentary, and who's this whole thing. It almost seems as if our media apparatus   with intellectual property rights, all this is set up to then allow for these situations   to be absolutely maximized   upon   from the moment the event happens.  

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So there's people jumping at it saying, you know What what I haven't followed this. What are they charging him with for starts?   Murder is Being really attractive and Yeah. But but   but but but what are they all like that was murder. I mean, like, like if he's I don't know if he's murder are they hitting him with? I I just I don't even know,  

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if he's had, like he's had to have had a bond hearing and an arraignment.  

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That's why I'm saying there has to be some charge that there's that they've start their starting position.   Mhmm. What is their start position for They're probably going was his murder? Yeah.  

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To what degree was it murderous?  

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Yeah.  

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What was how much damage did he do?  

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Well and and, obviously,   it includes,   you know,   he thought about it beforehand. He made a whole plan.   But   there are some other factors, you know, like, they could put under duress and all kinds of things. Mhmm. So how murdery are they looking at? And and with with have you Wikipedia'd   this or whatever?  

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Typed in how murdery is he? I'm looking. I'm trying to find it.  

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And then, no. He's they're gonna hit him with terrorists. He only killed 1 person, and he was very specific.   And then once we figure that out,   what are the level of the charges in that state for that level, you know, for that? York state. So  

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life without parole is what they're saying is on the table,   facing state and federal charges, but don't say I don't see them list the charges themselves listed. And federal?   Mhmm.   Neither of them.   He had a ghost gun, allegedly,   which he traveled across state lines with. So he took a quote, unquote illegal gun across state lines that automatically made federal. The feds typically pick it up at that point, and the state drops it.   Well, he's got a he hasn't been, you know, the there hasn't even been a a I just saw a thing where,   they've been,   trying to get the   trial delayed or pretrial delayed and all that kind of stuff.  



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I I did see that the attorney made some motions that   had already made some motions because I was watching   one of the trial videos, and and she wasn't wrong.   She was showing where they were actively   making this into a publicity stunt,   and she showed things and said, you know, how exactly   because part of the   idea behind a fair jury trial is is that the idea that   you're gonna put together a group of people that doesn't have preconceived   notions.   Mhmm. And once you made this into such a giant publicity stunt,   the idea of finding that group of people without said preconceived notions Is there are found substantially.  



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Is there a vista? Nationwide.   Jury? Could could we just outsource,   jury selection? You know, make a special Visa where they can come to me Sir. Sir. I'd be very good on your jury, sir.  

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Isn't that what that h one n one Visa is about? Yeah. It's about jury pools.  

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Isn't that,   another name given to a a kind of a person?  

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Weird Bob's and Virgin, I say it is innocent. In in those a very nice bobs.   Very very nice.  

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Mhmm. I say you're not guilty. We make fuck.  

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You said money order. Jury notification.  

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Money order. So here's here's the thing. Luigi dude did enter a plea of not guilty,  

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for a legal charges. Plead plead to what was it to? Federal charges of murder. Murder and firearms violations.   Firearms violations?   That's not a fucking life sentence. That's not fucking  

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Murder in New York with an illegal,   quote, unquote, illegal gun does that that not gonna be a  

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a little easy charge. Do they have video of him? Yeah.  

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Will they have video of allegedly him? Sure. So then they have to prove  

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that the person in the video is the person in the courtroom.  

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So it's saying in the the office of public affairs, United States   department of justice   says,   Luigi Mangione charged with the stalking and murder of UnitedHealthcare   CEO.   So that that   probably adds a little   flavor to it, a little spice into the murder because they you add the stocking in there. That's Yeah. You had to figure out where the guy was gonna be.   Well, that's part of the different,   variations of the murder is, you know, they're they're that's part of what they're determining is is how much you thought about it. You know? Was it a crime of emotion? Things like that. There there's a lot of different things, and, yeah, it looks like they're definitely giving him the, full on,   full sized   I don't know the name of any of the porn stars that have the giant dicks. I guess,   Jeremy Hall or Ron Jeremy   strap on  

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over it. Well, he played  

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Mario, didn't he? And that guy in prison too?  

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Yeah. And running the game.  

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Was. Yeah. For playing Mario?  

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No. For being hella rapey.  

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Yeah. I know I know Nintendo is rather litigious and protecting their Oh, dude. Intellectual property. Wild. Right? Because you've had girls  

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do the most   crazed things,   you know, willingly,   and then you go and have to do that. Like like, that's just wild. Right?  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. Because I, you know,   out of control. Our dude was out of control   for decades, I guess.   There's, like, a handful of those dudes that just sorta   fully go over to the dark side.   Don't   know how you couldn't   if that's your environment and that's all you know.  

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Yeah. I've seen I've seen some pictures that, you know, you see the memes floating around or whatever, and one of them is hanging out with that kid from Terminator.   And the 2 of them just look   horrifying.   You're like,   wow.   Did you eat anything healthy ever? Did you try a drink of water?   Have you breathed air without intoxicants in it?  

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What are you doing, jackass?   Jesus   dog.   Oh, I need to feed you.  

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Oh, he's hungry.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. I'm sure he's starving.  

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He's keeping time for us. Me, Ed.   Do we, have any one to thank? Any comments from any of the chats? Let's  

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go check.  

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We wanted to test to make sure that we were streaming to all the streaming places.  

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Well, we're gonna try and get,   miss Moyer on, I guess, next week. I haven't asked yet, but she, we had already I have asked if she wants to come on. We just didn't have a subject,   and have her come on and debate.   What's that thing called? Simulation theory. Simulation.   Debate   simulation theory and,   we're working on it after that.   So,   hopefully, most likely, Emily Moyer next week.  

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Yeah. Let us know what the hot topics are in terms of interest. What what what are the   most interesting topics for us to   dig into.   There's research involved naturally. You can see us tonight doing the research live to figure out what are the charges.   When we have a little bit more time to prepare for this stuff, we'll have the research at hand ready to go to to argue the point based off of the the factual information.   What,   topics?   What topics?  

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They're gonna be stuck in motions for a minute for as much as they're publicizing this also.  

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Yeah.   Jury nullification.  

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Well, that's that's another that's another factor in it   that they have to look at with this being as highly publicized as it is. That jury nullification is   absolutely   a a thing at that point. There's enough people that know about it and know about him   that that could easily   be a factor in this.  

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And his name alongside   jury notification   has been shown up on a lot of the social media platforms.  

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Alright. There are people learning about  

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notification for the first time.  

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What are your odds?   What are your odds of getting an untainted   pool at this point? That's not   you almost automatically and you know that that that their attorney's gonna throw motions on it if they try and pick a pool of a bunch of 80 year olds who somehow  

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have not accessed as any social media or or cable in here. Sure. Yeah. I mean, that could that could be something we could debate in terms of,   getting out of jury duty. Do you wanna announce right away when they ask your name and, you know, tell you something about yourself? You say, oh, I'm I'm a firm believer in jury nullification.  

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You say that Yeah. I'm I'm proud of that, and I believe in jury nullification. Or you just keep that up. To sit on your jury. Right. You just kinda keep that to yourself in your back pocket.  

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Well, it depends on   whether or not you wanna nullify that jury.   Right? Like, if you actually wanted to participate in jury nullification, you wouldn't say anything. You'd get on the jury, and then you would nullify it. Sure. Exactly. You'd  

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but then I just wanna get out of jury duty, then you would end up some some crime that I actually thought that the dude would like you know, like,   obviously, if you're if you're a graper,   you know, then I I think you should go into prison. I well, honestly, I think you should get hung on the  

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court dates to find the courthouse. Grape Kool Aid.  

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Yeah. I know. Grape Kool Aid. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. If you're not down with grape Kool Aid, you're probably not You're not drinking fresh squeezed orange juice as an adult.  

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Right. I do.   Mhmm.  

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A lot of it.  

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So are there laws that are still on the books that people are getting charged for that we could debate against?  

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Oh, god. There's there is and that's what makes it arbitrary is is   they like to leave as many laws on the books as possible   so they can arbitrarily   just go through and pick 1. Because I guarantee everybody's guilty of something almost of every day because there's so many arbitrary weird laws on the books. In Deadwood, South Dakota,   $10,000   fine to spit on the sidewalk.  

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Yeah.  

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Like,   do they do they employ that? No. But if the cop wanted to be a dickhead   and saw you do that and was aware of that law, you betcha. They can arbitrarily   enact those things.   And so that's part of why they never take laws off the books.   Leaves them less options.  

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Could we argue that there was a little flower growing and that we were just giving in a little bit of love and attention?   Are there benefits to spinning on the sidewalk?  

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Well, uh-uh.  

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Probably not. Probably not. Yeah. No. You're probably not.  

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No. I there is I remember   1 year I was flying out of Indiana. I was flying out of Indianapolis,   and it was election day.   It   was back when I was back when I was drinking,   and   I tried to get a beer.   And they were like, we don't sell beer until the polls close   on election day.   And I'm like,   I'm on the other side of airport security.   Mhmm. About to get into a plane   and and fly away.   And you're telling me   that Indiana   law says, even though I would have   to leave the airport,   go find an open polling station,   somehow   manufacture   an Indiana ID   with credentials, you know, all that kind of stuff.  

Wait in line.   Go vote   and come back and catch my flight. You think I'm gonna do that? Or you think I'm gonna get like ripped snorting drunk in the airport bar and be like, fuck it. I don't need to go home today. What I really need to go and do is vote   as close to the Indianapolis airport as humanly possible.  

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Because a lot of people who are leaving the airport   start getting drunk at the airport bar. That's so common. I know that I prefer   to only drink drinks that are 3 or 4 times as much as it would be at a normal bar, much less at home if I'm getting home.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're not really flying unless you paid $27 for a shot. I think that was dating advice.  

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Go to airports and just hang out on airports.   Right? Wait. You you you can buy a cheap flight ticket  

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and then just not get on the plane and hang out in the bar for a few hours and maybe find a date Probably easier when they didn't stop people at check-in, like, you know, back when you could just, like, walk anywhere in an airport back before 9:11.  

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Mhmm.   Will we ever have fun in airports ever again? Not that much.   No. No. Then the other note I have is,   spittoons.   Should we be carrying those around or just like Hock and Loogies and   handkerchiefs?  

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I had a spittoon.   Don't know what happened to it years ago. Instrument?   No. It's just for spitting in. Mhmm. Although they can be kinda musical if you get the brass ones or the tin ones that are metal and you can  

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Mhmm. Do you spit  

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seeds into them like the,   sunflower seeds with the You can.  

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My grandpa used to chew Copenhagen.   My great grandpa,   he'd chew Copenhagen, and then he'd buy me, them cans of the ground up beef jerky.   And we'd sit on his front porch and   and swing on his swing   and spit in this platoon.  

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Spitting out the   used up   tobacco   into the Yeah. Well, for him, it was tobacco. For me, it was beef jerky. Is that It's not gonna require that much spitting, but, you know, I wanted to be like great grandpa, you know. Mhmm. Is that why they put a law on the books? Because too many people were spitting tobacco on the sidewalks and maybe dogs were licking it up or kids were playing with it.  

[02:11:04] Unknown:

You know, Deadwood back in the day, I know it doesn't a lot of people don't make this association, but the wild west was South Dakota. It wasn't Yeah. California. It wasn't   you know, it was the Dakotas and, you know, right along that line.   And,   Deadwood was a rough,   rough place   and still is. And I think at some point in time, they were trying to probably clean up the city   and make it respectable and all that.   You know? Because at some point in time, there was a lot of money in deadwood. It was it it went from being, you know, all cutthroats   and,   you know, people trying to   take an opportunity to wealthy people, you know, in a fairly short time.  



[02:11:53] Unknown:

South Dakota tourism.   It's huge.  

[02:11:56] Unknown:

Well, it wasn't the tourism is the gold mine. So the ones that struck it big in the gold, you know, became very wealthy and powerful.   And then that, you know, the the wealth area grew up around that.  

[02:12:13] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yep. I gotta bounce. I did. I you guys don't have to, but I got, like No. We'll try and set up something next week. Clock down.   3 or yeah. I know, dog. Stop looking at me like that.  

[02:12:28] Unknown:

Yeah.   I get,   Emily in next week and try and get some   debate opponents.   I don't know.  

[02:12:38] Unknown:

We're doing Tuesdays? Andrew,  

[02:12:41] Unknown:

your your father smells like, your father smells like,   elderberries.  

[02:12:47] Unknown:

So Steve's got his laptop now, and we're looking forward to every Tuesday, same time? Yeah, we can do it. Yeah.  

[02:12:55] Unknown:

This time's good for me. So,   yep,   Tuesday's at 6 now. Love you guys.  

[02:13:02] Unknown:

Cool. Y'all have a fantastic week. Thanks for hanging out with us. So we can end the show by saying see you  

[02:13:09] Unknown:

next Tuesday, dudes.  

[02:13:11] Unknown:

Correct.  

[02:13:13] Unknown:

Correct. See you and cut it.  

[02:13:16] Unknown:

Tuesday. Yeah. Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.   Take care, everybody.