In this intriguing episode, we delve into the mysterious world of body swapping and the metaphysical possibilities of soul transference. Our story follows Jack Hanley, a young man with a troubled past, who encounters Leroy Frazer, an elderly gentleman with an unusual proposition. Frazer offers Jack a fortune in exchange for his youthful body, promising a life of luxury until the time comes for the exchange. As Jack grapples with the bizarre offer, he finds himself entangled in a web of mystery, questioning the very nature of identity and the soul.
As the narrative unfolds, Jack is drawn deeper into Frazer's enigmatic world, where ancient books and cryptic conversations hint at the possibility of a soul transplant. Despite his skepticism, Jack is tempted by the allure of wealth and the promise of a carefree life. However, as the story reaches its climax, Jack must confront the reality of his decision and the chilling consequences of trading his body for riches. This episode explores themes of greed, identity, and the eternal quest for immortality, leaving listeners pondering the true cost of such a fantastical exchange.
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Come in. Welcome. I'm E. G. Marshall. Welcome once again to the shadow world of mystery and suspense, to a dark and cryptic universe called the imagination. When we were young, we liked to believe there are things money cannot buy. You know, things like love, happiness. But as we grow older and learn more about the world, well, we're not so sure. As a matter of fact, many of us even begin to believe that the only thing money cannot buy is a fresh new body and a chance to live another lifetime. Well, don't be too sure of that. Our mystery drama, The Forever Man, was written especially for the mystery theater by Sam Dann and stars Paul Hecht.
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All of our great religions agree on one important point. The soul leaves the body after death. However, from time to time, the question has been raised, can the soul leave before the body dies? Philosophers have considered the point and as usual in these matters have reached no consensus of opinion. Actually, they found it difficult to define just exactly what the soul is. Well, we're about to meet a young man named Jackson Hanley who will soon become intimately concerned with the problem even though no one has ever accused him of being a philosopher. He has, however, often been accused of other things, which is why our story opens in what is a rather familiar locale for Jack Hanley,
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a police station. Well, if it isn't an old and reliable customer, Jack Hanley, the cop fighter himself. Why don't you just count the tiles on the ceiling, Jack? I'll be with you in a minute. Sergeant Burns here. Oh, hi, sweetheart. Nothing. Nothing. I just have to dispose of an old client. Yeah. He can wait. What's with Junior? He did. He said daddy. I told you he was a genius. No. Sure be dialing. You can always call me up with news like that. That's right. Goodbye.
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Ah, well,
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Jack Jack, what are we gonna do with you? I guess I'm just a bad boy, Sarge. Why do you fight with cops, Jack? I don't like to get pushed around. Well, there's no percentage in it. Yeah. You're a % right. I mean, you can't win. So what? All you do is wind up in a cell with a black eye and, a fat lip.
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Look, maybe there's a law that says I gotta go to the cooler. But is there a law that says I gotta listen to you?
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Jack, I got great news for you. Yeah? Like what? Take a real wild guess, Jack. Okay. Somebody came along and posted bond.
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That's right.
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What's right? Somebody came along and posted bond.
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What are you talking about? You guessed it. Oh,
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are you kidding? No. It's on the level. But who'd post the bond for me? I don't know. Maybe you got a fairy godmother.
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You mean I can just walk out of here? There's the door. Take off. That's all there is to it? That's all. You mean you ain't even gonna give me the speech? Jack. On your way, will you? I don't have all day to fool around with every hood that's hauled in here.
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Ah, mister Henley. Who are you? How do you do? My name is Frazer. Leroy Frazer. Yeah? What can I do for you? Not nearly as much as I can do for you. How'd you know my name? Oh, I know quite a bit about you, mister Henley. Yeah? Oh, yes. Matter of fact, I posted bond for you this morning. Oh. Why? Would you believe I'm a wealthy old man who likes to do good deeds? No. Then why do you suppose I did it? You want something? Excellent. You, mister Henley, are a realist. No illusions. Exactly the man I'm looking for. To do what? First, to take me somewhere. You drive a car? But, of course, you do. You even race cars when you can.
I'm parked at the curb. That
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that imported sports job? That's yours? It's one of mine. One of my cheaper cars, I might add. Gee. I never saw one like that outside of a magazine. Are you afraid to drive it? Hand over the keys.
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Where to? Not far. The Pershing arm. Hey. That's a pretty classy joint. I find it adequate. Why'd you post my bond? You already know I want something. What? Let us say my share of eternity. What does that mean? Are you willing to take a job? Doing what? For one thing, you'll drive this car. Chauffeur. That's a drag. The car will be yours. Mine? You'll need it to get
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around. Where would I be going? You'll find out after lunch. Why not now?
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It's a long story.
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Listen, mister Fraser. I better straighten you out. Please do. I, You see, I'm a guy who gets into trouble. I know. Yeah, it's because, well, maybe I got a bad temper, you see? It's a lot of low boiling point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see, so Well, I get into fights, I get arrested. I'm aware of that But I'm not a crook You understand? I understand perfectly Yeah, so This thing, Well, it better not be something I could go to jail for Jack, I assure you it's a pure and simple out and out
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private business agreement. But to do what? Something that is mutually
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profitable. But what is that?
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Pull over. Oh. We're at the Pershing Arms. Uh-huh. What's here? Your apartment. My apartment? Already and waiting. Well, I, I hope the place is satisfactory.
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Yeah. It's okay. It's okay.
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Hey. Wait a minute. Come over here and look. What a magnificent view of the park. Yeah. But call out. We got some things to break. Kitchen, a freezer stocked with steak. Yeah. That's fine. But listen, listen, Send it a hi fi and stereo,
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a liquor cabinet. Sure. That's all very nice, Fraser. But, but But what, Jack? What is all this about?
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I promise to tell you after after lunch. Why do I have to wait? I'll see you at my place at 03:00. Hey. Wait. Now wait a minute. Where are you going? I To my apartment. I have a duplex down the hall. I thought we were gonna have lunch. I always eat alone. Oh. Oh, I'd forgotten. You'll need money Money? For expenses.
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Oh, yeah. Hey. What what what kind of expenses? 300
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should see you through the next couple of days. Three hundred. Well, I, On second thought, let's be safe and make it 5. 5. Let's see. 50, hundred, $2.03, 4, and 500. There you are.
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Enjoy lunch. But, mister Fraser, I gotta know what I'm getting into. Is it,
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is it bad so far?
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How'd you like the pad,
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What's the catch?
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Nothing.
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Jack, you're talking to me, Della. Remember?
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Well, there's this guy. Which guy? An old guy. Mister Frazer. He puts up my barn. Why? I don't know. He gives me the car. Why? I don't know. And he gives me a job. Doing what? I don't know. He even gives me 500 in advance. I don't like it. But you're always on to me to get a job. Okay. I got a job. A job? Sure. But something like this,
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Jack, it has to be a setup. What kind of setup? I don't know. That's what's wrong. You see, we both keep saying I don't know. You don't know what the job is, and I don't know why I don't like it. Look, Della. I figure it this way. No, Jack. Don't you figure. Figuring always gets you into trouble. But you have to figure he's an old nut. Right? And he's out to throw his dough away for kicks. So why shouldn't I catch some of it? I still don't like it. You mean there are no old nuts like him? It don't happen. Oh, in storybooks maybe. In the movies maybe. Oh, Jack. Jack, listen to me. You're 500 ahead.
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Let's get out of here right now. Hell, this is a gold mine. You think so? And this 500, that's just what's lying around on the top.
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Jack, I'm scared. Of what? I I can't explain. I'm just scared. That's all. Look. I can handle it. Oh, sure. Sure. I know how you can handle it. The way you think you can handle everything with your fists. You just won't learn. Well,
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I know. I well, okay. Maybe I'm stupid. But that's why I can't turn down a chance like this. Don't you see? No. There's something about this place. It's
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it's creepy. There's something in the air here. I don't smell nothing. Even the books on the shelves.
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Hey. I didn't notice that. Hey. You know these feel like leather? I bet they cost a bundle. Jack,
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just read these titles. The transmigration of the soul. The experience of metham psychosis. One soul,
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two bodies. Stella, you don't have books like this to read. You keep them around to give the joint a touch of class. These books are old, Jack. So old. And they gotta be worth a lot of dough. Yeah. And all of them are about
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souls that leave the body. Well, isn't that what happens when people die? Okay, Jack. You got all the answers. I just wish you knew some of the questions. Oh, you must be mister Jack Handley. Come in. Come in. Hi. Now I'm going to confide in you because you look like an honest young person. Who who are you? Oh, I'm missus Toomey, mister Fraser's housekeeper. Oh, shh. Let's not make a sound. Why? What's up? Mister Fraser is oh, how to put this? Well, he he isn't well, and and so you should do nothing to excite him. Okay. Dear old gentleman, I I do believe that Uh-huh.
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That can only be our Jack Henley. Here it is 03:00,
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and here you are right on time. Mister Fraser, you promised the doctor to take a nap. And I did.
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Oh, so to take a pill. And I shall.
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Now, missus Toomey, excuse us. Oh, yes, sir. I I hope you and the young gentleman have a a most agreeable afternoon.
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Well, Jack, glad you're here to go to work. I'm ready to be told what the work is. What do you want? I want to make you rich. Why? One step at a time. You asked me what I wanted. I told you, why is another question, and tomorrow is another day. Okay. Did you know that you are now the owner of a Mark nine Borghese Fratelli? Here are the registration papers made out in your name. Surprised? Why? I told you the card was yours. Yeah. But I thought just to Now please sign these documents. What what kind of documents? Applications for bank accounts, Jack.
Now, Jack, take that suspicious look off your face. You filled out cards like these before. What what kind of bank account? I said I wanted to make you rich. Therefore, I intend to give you a rather large sum of money. Now, do you want to carry half a million dollars around in cash? Half a million? And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Obviously, you can't carry it around in your pocket, can you? Uh-huh. Well, of course not. So we put it in the bank in your name.
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Mister Fraser, I don't wanna get you all upset, but, look, I have to know why. Is that what's bothering you? Yeah. That's what's bothering me. How do I know you ain't setting me up, Jack, I assure you that I am a completely
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reputable businessman.
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Yeah. Well, yeah. Sometimes they're the worst kind. Look, it all comes down to this. What do you want?
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That's a fair enough question, I suppose. Jack, I want your body.
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Hey, wait.
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I want your body. And in exchange, I'll give you mine.
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answer.
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Well, here's an offer you might not get every day. Say you're a young man of about 28, tall, strong, attractive, and a frail, elderly gentleman offers you a fortune to exchange bodies with him. What do you do? Laugh? Edge away quickly? Notify the men in the white coats? Jack Hanley has just received such an offer, but he's still sitting there because the old man has already put his money where his mouth is. I become you.
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You become me. But how could that happen?
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Let us say it could happen. So
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you're saying I become a sick old guy who's gonna kick off in a couple of years, and you get a whole lifetime?
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Jack, you're 28. You've been in serious brawls. You've been arrested for breach of the peace. You've cracked up several cars. How long do you think you can live? Two years? Three years? Your luck has run out. You'll die, and your body will go to waste. What are you giving up? A lifetime? No. A few years, maybe months, perhaps even days. You can't afford to turn me down, Jack. What what you're saying, it's impossible. Let me worry about that. This way, you're guaranteed two to three years of a life of luxury. But how could you and me exchange bodies? It would be a sort of transplant. No.
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No. No. No. No dice. None of that operating room for me. No surgery.
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That is no physical surgery. This would be psychic surgery
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of a sort. What are we even talking about it for? The whole thing is crazy. It's a joke. Well, then the joke would be on me, wouldn't it?
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But I'm willing to take the chance.
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You are,
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I'm willing to enter into a verbal agreement with you. I agree to place at least half a million dollars in your name in return for which, on demand, you permit me to take over your body. Do you agree?
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It could never happen.
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I need your agreement. But I don't believe it.
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Whether you believe it or not, you have to state the following if you want all this money. You must say Yeah. I agree to the exchange of bodies with Leroy Fraser. But it is crazy. I must have the statement,
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or we have no deal. Okay. If it'll make you happy, I agree to the, what what was it? The exchange
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of bodies with Leroy Fraser. With Leroy Fraser. Okay. Well, now, that's in order.
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So what about this, job?
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The job? Yeah. Oh, don't you see? Your job is to enjoy life until such time as you are required to surrender your body. Oh. I might add, You must take excellent care of it.
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Not that this could ever happen, Frazer, but, I mean, how do you enforce a thing like this? I mean, just suppose, if and when the time ever comes, I I just tell you to go and soak your head.
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Too late. You've already agreed.
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How'd you do? My name is mister Soames. Do you need help? Yeah. I'm, I'm Hanley, Jack Hanley. Hanley Hanley. Did did you say Hanley? Yeah. Oh, please. Sit down, sir. Oh. Have a chair. No. No. Not this one. This one. Oh. Yes, sir. Yeah. This is so much more comfortable.
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Is it Guy? No. I I just wanted to check on the, oh,
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check? By all means, check as inspectors ordered and balances constantly. We will measure up to your highest expectations. Oh, no. And we are honored that a man of your standing should have chosen our bank. Yeah. I I I just, wanted to make sure that the, the account The account, sir? Yeah. Yeah. That there that there is an account. Oh, yes. Indeed, sir. The account in your name has been opened, and it's in perfect order. You will find us your kind of banking institution.
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I've been to all the banks.
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You know how much it adds up to?
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$590,000 Well, say something
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What do you want me to say? I I want you to say what you think You know what I think Yeah, I shouldn't have told you Oh, you've got to break that agreement somehow Agreement You know,
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I listen to your talk and I wonder have you got all your marbles? You did make an agreement with this, Mr. Frazer All I did was I went along with a gag to keep some old nut happy. But it's an agreement. Look, all right. Why don't we just forget it,
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Okay. You know, I I think I figured out a way you can break it. Oh, once It's the break. Don't touch the money. Don't take a nickel that's in the banks.
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Now, how much of the 500 did you spend? Now, look here. And give him back the car with a full tank of gas. No, no. No, no. This baby is mine. All mine. Oh, please, Jackie. You know where we're headed tonight? Meridian Oval. Jackie. Yes, ma'am. I called up the whole crowd Spread the word Jack is back Jacky, you're not gonna race In this one? Won't be a race It'll be like wheeling the baby home
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Jack,
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suppose Suppose I crack out the car, so what? So what? Yeah, so what? This heap goes for 21 thou Big deal All I gotta do is ride out a chip What you got? That's all there is to it Listen, I gotta educate you on how to behave You see, you never had any real dough in your life Jack, you don't understand Nothing I'm getting sick and tired of being told by you that I don't understand Jack, this Mr. Frazer he wouldn't make an agreement like that unless he knows something Or unless he's lost all his marbles and he's a loon I got the inside dope from his housekeeper Give it all back You know, Della, you're starting to be a drag Oh, Jack, I I'm only thinking of what's best for you You know, I found out what money is these past few days I found out You know what money is?
Everything Oh, sir, all of a sudden you're mister Hanley and it's yes, sir, mister Hanley It's an honor, mister Hanley And you know what? I like it Oh, Jack I just wish I could Say that! Now just ask yourself a question All the time we've been running around together You were smart I was dumb Is that the way you wanted it? What are you talking about? Were you looking for the kind of setup where you call the shots? I only trust You need a guy who's a dummy so you can be the wise one? Jack,
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if I've been
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Well, if I've been making the decisions it was only because I wanted It was only because you wanted to You were against this from the first minute You didn't even know what it was and you were against it without even knowing why you're against it. Oh, I'm still against
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it. What
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what are you stopping for? So you can get out if you don't like it. Oh, is that how it is? Yeah, baby. That's exactly how it is.
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Well, goodbye, Jack.
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Who are you kidding? You'll come back. You always come back.
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Hey, Jack. Where'd you get them wheels? What do you say, Jer? What are you trying to do? Blow us all off the track? I see the word is out.
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Crazy, Jack. Man, you won't be happy that you killed yourself. How come you not, Jerry old buddy? Because in five more minutes, you won't see me for dust. Boy,
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a car like that on a two bit crack like this I'm just warming up for the big time Jerr yeah but it's been a couple of years since you were ready better than ever
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hey there's a flag yeah see you Jerrry
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Well,
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hello, George.
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George? Do I look like somebody whose name would be George? Oh, yes.
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Yes. The voice is different, but there's the same kind of spirit she had. She? Who? George. George Sand. And who was George Sand? A friend of mine. What are you doing here? I'm waiting for Jack Hanley. How did you get into the apartment? Same way you did. I have a key.
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I came here to give mine back. Oh, you must be the old guy. Guilty as charged. Well, you don't look so old.
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Thank you.
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Well, everybody's here. Jack, what what happened to your face? Nothing. Couple of scratches. I walked away from him. For what? I hit the turn too fast. I totaled the car. So what? Jack. Look. That's enough out of you. What are you doing here anyhow?
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I thought
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maybe we could No. No. No. No. We do things my way or no way.
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Alright, Jack. Then it's no way Goodbye and this time I mean
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it Sure. See you tomorrow
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Well, Frazer, what can I do for you? You cracked up the car tonight I can afford another one. Our agreement calls for you to take care of your body. Have a cigar, Pa? By continuing to take foolish risks, you can cancel the agreement.
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I can, Oh, yes. That's too bad. I got the money. It's in my name. How could you get it back from me? I couldn't. It's yours. Yeah. So I'm holding all the aces. You have a powerful hand.
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Yeah. I feel a bit weak. Oh, there's a there's an excellent brandy in the cabinet. Could you paw me a bit, please?
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Hey. Smells pretty good here. Do you mind if I try a shot myself?
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Certainly not. After all, it belongs to you.
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Oh, yes. I forgot.
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Thank you.
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Well, happy days. So the agreement's busted,
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no. No. Not the complete agreement. You see, only the part of it that gives you the two to three years. Is that right? I can't take a chance that you will live that long. Not at the rate you're going. So So what? You are required to surrender your body on demand. You agreed, remember? Sure. Sure. I remember. You want some more of this brandy? No. But help yourself if you like. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks.
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You were saying?
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I was saying you agreed to surrender your body on demand, but I demand it now. The exchange will be made tonight.
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There is a vital essence, a special quality, a unique consciousness that makes up the individual
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core of each of us.
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Is this essence or soul, as some would call it, transferrable? Mister Leroy Fraser has bet close to a million that it is.
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Give your hand to a friend. Give your heart to your love, to your love. But give your allergy to contact you.
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Give your hand to a friend. Give your heart to your love, to your love.
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The tiny time pills in one contact keep this antihistamine working up to twelve full hours all day, all night. Take contact only when needed. Only as directed.
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Hey, Pat. How tall do you think she is? Three hundred feet of Susan in Luigi, and a fine lady she is. The year 1886.
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On second thought, I love it's bitterness.
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Ponte mez. Is it bitter? Is it sweet? People have been arguing about it since 1786. Ponte mez. A lovely before lunch or dinner drink from Italy. On the rocks, so with soda and a slice of orange. Punte Mes, capital p u n t, little e, capital m e s. It's bitter.
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It's sweet. It's bitter. It's sweet. It's bitter. It's bitter. It's sweet. It's bitter. It's sweet. Alright, Sofia. It's bitter.
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You, my darling. Let's just say it's bittersweet. Like life, like love, like marriage, Italian style.
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Reported by Kellogg and Portrait of it in New York, New York.
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Leroy Fraser and Jack Hanley have an agreement. They will exchange bodies. Each will become the other. Jack Hanley will become Leroy Fraser, old and infirm. Leroy Fraser will become Jack Hanley, young and vigorous, maybe.
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Why are you laughing? I'm laughing at you. At me? Yeah. You. Do you really believe this? Believe what? Believe that we can swap parties. Certainly. Certainly, he says, look. I took your dough. Ask me why. Why? Why? Because an old clown like you, you had to lose it. It's like you were you were standing on a street corner. You were saying, here's my money. Take my money. Might just as well have been me. That's not exactly the way it happened. You received this money as part of an agreement. Oh, yeah. The agreement again. You and Della, you'd make a great pair.
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We might at that.
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Yeah. I must say, Pop, you're you're you are cool. I mean, you are very cool. You're sitting there with a bust hand, and you make out like you're holding a royal flush.
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Well, time for the exchange.
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It will be over within a minute. All a crazy idea. What makes you so sure you can do it? Well, you see,
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I've done it before. You what? Oh, yes. Many times. Who are you kidding? Nobody. I'm serious.
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You're the one who keeps insisting this is a joke. Okay. Okay. Enough is enough. Look. I'm tired. I wanna go to bed, so take off. Come on, Frazer. Beat it. Look. Don't make me throw you out of here. Try to get up, Jack.
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Just try to get up.
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Oh, I I feel kinda dizzy.
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What did you do? We have an agreement, you and I. We have an agreement. No.
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No. No, sir. It's the brandy. You did something to the brandy But I drank it too
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And I feel fine
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now, listen, Frazer You can't You can't
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You can't do it Have you read any of the books, Jack? The books? What books? The books on the shelves. Why? Why would I So you would know, Jack, you'd know how it was done. I didn't read nothing. It doesn't matter. You shared the room, the wisdom, the power that is in the books. I I don't feel so good. No, Jack. You'll feel fine. You know, just changes. Change? Changes taking place in your soul. What what kind of changes Just changes that will prepare it for a journey.
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The journey
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from your body to mine. My soul is also preparing.
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She was right. She was right.
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She said she was scared. You should have listened to her.
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My oh, my head. My head is splitting wide open. No, Jack. You're fine.
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You promised. You promised me three years. Two years, you promised. Oh, but, Jack, I can't believe you. I can't breathe. Yes, you can, Jack. You're fine. Look, I I promise you. No, Jack. I can't trust you. You can't. I swear. With what you know now, you'll kill me. I I feel cold. I I feel stiff. I feel There is a law. It's written in the book. No. No. The mind, the soul,
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the essence,
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I can't believe it. Living force, the vital spirit is free. Unfettered, unbound, escape. Escape the petty prison of the faltering body. Escape. Be free. He is tearing at my ins Escape. Leave me. Leave this shattered hulk. No. Leave me. Go to him. No. With the magic of ancient Egypt, the wisdom of Greece, by all the sciences the ancients knew, let our souls be free. I don't wanna die. I have been the vital spirit in the bodies of 15 men before this night. No. Now, now, I shall become Jack Handley.
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Well, and how are you this morning, mister Fraser?
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What? Oh, I
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feel like I'm 80 years old. Well, the truth is you're you're not far from it.
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What what what are you saying? No. Mister Frazer. Who who who are you calling, Frazer?
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I I know it's early in the morning, but we have things to discuss. I
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I'm not Frazer.
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I'm I'm Jack Hanley. This is not the time to joke, sir. Only, don't you understand?
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I'm Jack Hanley. What what what am I doing here? How did I Sir, please
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look in this mirror. Now
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God.
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Sir, can we talk about How did he do it? How did he put me into his old body?
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I better call the doctor. I get the doctor.
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Call the police. He stole my body.
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And doctor, he he's got this crazy idea. He's somebody else. Doctor, I have to talk to you alone.
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Please excuse us, Mrs. Tully.
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Oh, alright, doctor.
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Listen, doctor, I am not Leroy Fraser. No? No. I'm Jack Hanley. I'm I'm 28 years old. Come, Fraser. You're talking to me, the doctor. Oh, I'm Jack Hanley. Fraser somehow found a way, maybe a drug or something. He was able to get me into his body and and and he took mine for himself. I see. That's what happened.
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Frazer, old friend, you need rest. I'm not Frazer. Now don't excite yourself, Laurent. You won't believe me. None of you believe. I
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know. I know. You look at me like I'm a nut. Some rest and quiet and Look.
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You're a doctor. You should see it. Of course. Of course. F fifty years ago, if a guy said you could transplant a heart, you'd say they were crazy. But they can do it today, can't they? Well, sure. Sure. So why couldn't somebody figure out a way to transplant a guy's soul? We'll discuss it first. No. We won't. We'll discuss it now. Della, she knows. She was afraid of what happened.
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Yeah.
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She'll prove it. No. Now don't you try to stop me.
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Hello? It's Della. Who who's this? Lee.
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Who are you? Jack. Oh, you you're not Chad. Della, listen to me. It happened. It happened. What happened? The agreement, Della. He went and he did it. What what are you saying? The answer. The answer's in those books. Now, Della, go to the apartment. Find the answer. Look through those books and hurry. Yeah. Della, she's gonna prove it. And meanwhile, you'll just rest. Now I'll be right back.
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How is he, doctor? Well, we'll have to get him to a sanitarium.
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Whatever gave him the idea that he that he's a young man?
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A delusion. A not uncommon delusion. A yearning for better, happier times. Should we get him ready to travel? Yes. Go in and help him dress. I'll make some telephone arrangements.
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Certainly, doctor. Mister Frazer? Mister Frazer? Oh, doctor. He he's disappeared.
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Sergeant. Sergeant. Sergeant. Brian. Do you remember me? No, Pop. I can't say that I do. My name is Jack Hanley. Jack Han? Well, that sounds familiar. But but he was a young guy. I am a young guy. Look. A man named Frazier, an old man, he stole my body and he left me his. Well, oh, come on. No. It's true. Yeah. Sure. Sure, pop. Don't call me pop. I'm younger than you are. Now look, friend. Why don't I have one of the officers take you home? I'm Jack Hanley. I was here three days ago. Jack Hanley was here three days ago. Not you. I am Jack Hanley, and I can prove it. Sure you can. Sure. Sure. You called me cop fighter. Yeah. Cop how how would I know that if I weren't Jack Hanley?
If I if I were some old man, how would I know that? Well, it's And another thing, how would I know that your wife called while you were talking to me? What? Your wife. She called, She said your son had just said daddy. Now wait a minute. How would I know that, Sarge? Now look, Burns, you're a cop. You're a great guy, and you're the only chance I got. Well, what do you want me to do? Come over to the pad. Dela's here. She'll show you the books. I'll show you the brandy, and I'll prove to you how it was done. Adela can prove it. Come on. Come on. Come to the apartment with me.
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Well,
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come on in. Oh, sure.
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Sorry about last night, Della. Who are
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you?
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Yeah. Yeah, Della. And, honey, I've been doing a lot of thinking.
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Have you? About what? Oh, about you and me. Yeah. And?
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Well, you couldn't be too angry with me. How do you know? You wouldn't have come back here this morning.
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You wanna know why I came back here? Why? I got a phone call from Frazer.
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Frazer?
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Why would Frazer call you? Oh, it it was kind of a a crazy story. What did Frazer say? Would you answer a question first? Sure. Do I still remind you of of George Sand? Oh. Well, do I?
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Yes. More and more every minute.
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I looked her up. Her name was Amandine Dupin.
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You could be right. What do you say we get out of here? Where are we going? I don't know. But we're both 28, and it's a long, long trip.
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Della? Della?
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Oh, hey, pop. Now what are you handing me? There's nobody here. Just last night. Last night, sir. You were sure? There were books on that shelf. Well, there's nothing there now. Oh, oh, there you are. Oh, thank heavens you're safe. Ah, ma'am. Now this old gent claim Sergeant. Sergeant, I'm surprised at you. Oh, excuse me. Yes.
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Yes? Oh oh, for you, sergeant Burns. Oh, thank you. Yeah?
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Oh, you check the bags. I see. No record of deposits in the name of Jack Hanley. Yeah? What? Well, naturally, where would a dumb hood like that get money? Who'd give it to him? Don't you see? He's got my body. You're okay. I know. It was a wild thing. But you know how it is. Anything can happen. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Right.
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Oh, Pop. Pop, what are we gonna do with you? Don't call me that. Where's Della? She crossed me. She went with him. Now, mister Fraser, you you'll feel so much better in the hospital, so much better. I am not Fraser.
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I'm Hanley. I am Jack Hadley. Won't anybody believe me? Oh, look.
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Get some rest, Mark. Any anybody believe me? No. You'll feel better with good food,
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lots of sleep. Nobody has to believe me. Won't anybody believe me?
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As he sits there, Leroy Fraser, or if you prefer, Jackson Hanley, he sits there in his room in a faraway sanitarium and he keeps asking the question of everyone who will stop to listen. So far, no one believes him or is willing to admit it. All I can admit right now is that I'll be back in just a few moments.
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Our cast included Paul Hecht, Bryna Rayburn, William Redfield, Dan Ako and Leon Janney. The entire production was under the direction of Hyman Brown. Radio Mystery Theater was sponsored in part by Contact, the twelve hour allergy capsule, Anheuser Busch Incorporated, brewers of Budweiser, and the Kellogg Company, makers of Kellogg's Special k Cereal. This is EG Marshall inviting you to return to our mystery theatre for another adventure in the macabre. Until next time. Pleasant dreams.
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I'm Fulton Lewis in the Mutual Broadcasting System Studios in Washington DC. Now my commentary. Senate Watergate committee chairman Sam Ervin disclosed today that White House chief of staff general Alexander Hague testified for more than an hour and a half during midday answering questions about the use of a $100,000 payment made by representatives of multimillionaire Howard Hughes four years ago to the president's close personal friend, Bebe Rebozo. On May 2, you recall general Hague had been asked virtually identical questions by the same Watergate panel. On that occasion, he produced a letter from the president directing him to invoke executive privilege and declining to answer any questions.
Mister Nixon, during the interim though, decided to waive that executive privilege, but only as it applied to questions regarding the Hughes contribution. The funds in question regarding that contribution were returned to Rebozo by Rebozo to Hughes in the spring of nineteen seventy three. Rebozo has contended that the money was given back intact and had never been used for any purpose. Its interest in that issue was a major factor in prompting the Watergate Committee today to vote unanimously to extend its life to June 30. Another reason for the extension is that the committee wants to eliminate from its final Watergate report any findings of individual guilt or innocence in the Watergate matter.
An earlier preliminary staff report includes such findings and has been widely criticized because of that fact. The committee members themselves apparently appreciate something that the staff has failed to even recognize, namely that the urban panel is not a court of law. It has no right whatsoever on the basis of the testimony it has received to make any assessments of guilt or innocence on the part of anyone involved in the Watergate story. Such such assessments can be made only in a judicial proceeding where the accused are given the right to cross examine their accusers. As I mentioned a week ago, when portions of the staff report were leaked to the press, it was an outrageous document.
The staff members who prepared it and who caused its partial release should be severely disciplined. President Nixon's move in ungagging General Hague today is perhaps significant, and that it represents still another step on the president's part to try to accommodate those in the congress who are probing the record of his administration. As I have noted before, mister Nixon had a perfect right to extend the cloak of executive privilege to general Hague. It is, of course, precisely the same cloak which many former presidents have used on many occasions for the same purpose. You recall president Eisenhower used executive privilege time and time again as a means of preventing his administration officials from cooperating in the slightest with the late senator Joseph McCarthy's probes into subversion in government back during the nineteen fifties.
Judiciary committee voted 37 to one today to subpoena 11 Watergate tapes that president Nixon has refused to provide for the committee's impeachment inquiry. By top heavy votes, it also subpoenaed schedules of the president's daily meetings and conversations during four periods of time. It set a vote for tomorrow on subpoenas for tapes of 66 presidential conversations dealing with other matters that the judiciary committee has under investigation. The vote on the Watergate tapes supported by all committee Republicans except the ranking committee GOP member, Michigan representative Edward Hutchinson.
It was a direct challenge to the president who, of course, notified the committee last week that he would give it no more Watergate materials. The subpoena calls for the subpoenaed materials, the tapes, to be turned over next Wednesday. The 11 conversations covered by the new subpoena deal with plans for bugging democratic headquarters, conversations a few days after the Watergate break in, and efforts to get the CIA to limit the FBI investigation of the break in. That's as far as chief counsel John Doar has gotten in his presentation of evidence to the committee, which he resumed after the vote on the subpoenas today.
Doar said as he proceeds through the house panel's Watergate evidence, he is going to request additional subpoenas for tapes that the White House is still withholding. The committee requested 76 Watergate conversations last April 19, of which the 11 that were subpoenaed today are part. The subpoenas the committee will consider tomorrow cover 46 conversations believed to relate to the president's decision to increase milk price support, 20 conversations believed connected with settlement of a government antitrust suit against ITT. It took four votes to approve the subpoena for the president's daily schedules, one for each of the time periods covered.
Indiana Republican representative David Dennis, who objected to three of them, forced the separate votes. Those votes ran 36 to two, thirty two to six, twenty nine to nine, and thirty two to six, all in favor of the subpoenas. Dorr said the committee should see who Nixon met with and talked to during the specified periods so that it can determine whether it wants to request some specific conversations. The periods covered by the subpoena are April 1972, which Dorr said was critical to the Watergate planning and break in, February 1973, which covered the White House investigation of the affair, July, which he said was the period before and after the existence of the White House taping system became known, and October 1973, during which time the president fired special prosecutor Archibald Cox.
In contrast to the request for a subpoena, the daily schedules, which Iowa Republican representative, Wiley Maine, called a fishing expedition, No one spoke against the subpoena for the Watergate tapes. Hutchinson, the ranking Republican member, did not take part in the discussion, but he has stated on several occasions in the past that he is going to consistently vote against any subpoena because he opposes a confrontation between congress and the executive branch. New Jersey Democrat representative Peter Rodino, the committee chairman, said the committee was not seeking a confrontation, but was after the truth.
Several members questioned Doar as to whether he knew tapes existed for the 11 conversations that the committee has subpoenaed. Doar responded, we are reasonably satisfied that they do exist. In other related developments, former presidential appointment secretary Dwight Chapin was sentenced today to ten to thirty months in prison, that for lying under oath about political dirty tricks in the nineteen seventy two campaign. He was the second high ranking former White House aide of president Nixon to be sent to prison. Chapin, who had pleaded for leniency in a written statement to US District Judge Gerhard Gesell last week, made no statement to the judge today.
His attorney said that he would appeal Chapin's jury trial conviction this Friday. The judge allowed the 33 year old Chapin to remain free without bond until that appeal is disposed of. He said he had been had given a great deal of thought to Chapin's case, and he said your resort to swearing falsely cannot be condoned. Chapin was convicted by a jury on April 5 of two counts of making false statements to the FBI regarding political trickster Donald Segretti. He could have been sentenced to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine on each count.
From a mutual studios in Washington, I'm Fulton Lewis.
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Introduction to the Shadow World
The Forever Man: A Mystery Unfolds
The Soul's Journey: Philosophical Musings
Jack Hanley's Predicament
A Deal with Leroy Frazer
The Proposal: Body Exchange
The Exchange: A New Reality
The Aftermath: A New Identity
Reflections and Conclusions