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In this episode of Ungovernable Misfits: PMM, Max and Jon cover a variety of topics, starting with a light-hearted conversation about idioms and their meanings. Reading through SoulEx's Lake Satoshi Report, they explore the intricacies of community trust and the social dynamics at the Lake Satoshi event, highlighting the importance of mutual respect and the power of community in fostering meaningful connections. The discussion takes a deeper turn as they DELVE into Charles Myriel's thought-provoking article on the necessity of acknowledging societal dysfunctions and the path to personal and communal healing.


Max shares his rigorous workout routine, emphasizing the importance of physical fitness in maintaining mental resilience. Max and Jon also touch on the challenges of running a small Bitcoin business, the impact of COVID-19 on personal perspectives, and the role of surveillance in modern society. Throughout the episode, they stress the value of authentic relationships and the need for vulnerability in building trust within communities.



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• INTRO - I Hate You BY Ungovernable Misfits
• LAKE SATOSHI - Turn the Page BY Bob Seger Listen here
• OUTRO - Rise BY PIL Listen here

|| ARTICLES

• The Lake Satoshi Report BY Soulexporter Read here
• Admitting How Bad Things Are, Knowing How Good They Could Be BY Charles Myriel Read here

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Lake Satoshi is a private lake located on 130 acres of land in Mid-Michigan. Originally a gravel pit, Lake Satoshi has since evolved into a tranquil oasis for those who love the great outdoors and Bitcoin culture.


With the growing popularity of Bitcoin, Lake Satoshi has become a hub for like-minded individuals to network, camp, collaborate, and enjoy all that the property has to offer.


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[00:00:00] Unknown:

I am recording whatever tickles your pickle. Well, you don't even wanna know, mate. Just about anything.  

[00:00:07] Unknown:

Not picky.   Not really.   Did you take your little poopy? I wasn't little. You take a big old shit. Well, you inspired me because you said you were going, and I thought, you know, sounds like a nice idea. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. What the fuck does that mean?   You don't know what a gander is? To have a look at something?   No.   A gander?   I believe.   Have an example is like check me on it. I thought a gander was, like, the entire goose population,   the goose crew.   You know? So if it's good for me, it's good for everybody.   That's how I've always interpreted that saying. The phrase have a gander   means have a look. Sure. But now look up what's good for the goose is good for the gander. What's plural of goose? Geesen?  

A gaggle. It's a gaggle, isn't it? It is a gaggle, isn't it? Cool. Then what the fuck is is good for the goose is good for the gander mean then? Back to my original question then. Mhmm.  

[00:01:07] Unknown:

Let me look.   Using duck duck go, and it is  

[00:01:13] Unknown:

fucking horrendous. Oh, it's terrible.   Just give up. It's the worst.  

[00:01:19] Unknown:

I think I might.   Merriam Webster. Let's see what this bitch is saying. It is you. Merriam and Webster. Oh, is that what it is? It's 2 people. I think I think it's 2 people. Yeah. I thought it's just one person.   What's good for the goose is good for the gander.   High quality content here, by the way, mate. Mhmm.   We're calling. Way to open a show. Sure.   Use   to say that one person or situation should be treated the same way that another person or situation is treated.  

[00:01:52] Unknown:

Mhmm. Okay. So if it it   if taking a shit in the morning is good for me,   then it therefore,   it must be good for you. Yeah.  

[00:02:01] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't think that's quite how it reads according to Marion, but you can use it that way, I suppose. No. No. Whatever.   This would be more like a fairness thing. It's like,   John's taking a shit. Can I? Well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I see. Yeah. That's how it should be. Like, we should be treated equally. And if you require a shit and I require a shit, we should both be free to  

[00:02:24] Unknown:

shit ourselves together. Did we just become communists?  

[00:02:28] Unknown:

I think so. Yep.  

[00:02:32] Unknown:

That's that's that's Stepbrother's moments. Did we just become communists? I need to watch that film again. I used to watch it constantly. It's like Oh, Sarah and I did too. Did I ever tell you this? We went to see that in the theater,   and there must have been 10, 15 people in the theater,   And we were laughing our asses off the whole time like idiots.   And then we looked around, and everybody looked so miserable watching the movie.  

[00:02:55] Unknown:

It's fucking ridiculous.  

[00:02:57] Unknown:

I love it. Did you see recently   this is an American politics thing, but Kamala Harris finally did an interview, like a puff piece interview with with, a CNN reporter. And she brings along   her doofus vice presidential candidate guy, tampon Tim Walz.   And,   somebody did Tim Walz. Tampon Tim. Yeah. Because he was real big on getting tampons into boys' bathrooms and schools in in, where the hell is he from? Minnesota or Wisconsin. I don't know. Minnesota and Wisconsin just meld together to make Tampons  

[00:03:30] Unknown:

into boys'   bathrooms.   That's right, buddy. And what was his   thinking here?  

[00:03:37] Unknown:

You and I would figure diarrhea.  

[00:03:39] Unknown:

You know? Some sort of stop cap for terrible explosive diarrhea. Or nosebleeds   if it's like a boxing club or something like that. Yeah. I assume they'd be relatively good for that. That makes sense. Interesting. But okay. So this guy sounds great. Temple Temple You've seen him. So they they go on an interview together on CNN,  

[00:03:58] Unknown:

and somebody took their faces for that and did the stepbrothers thing. You know, when they go on the job interview? Hello, miss lady.   Did one of them fart?   I'm sure. Or or queef. No. This is terrible. Why do why do all of our conversations   have to go this route? We started off talking about shit. Now tampons,  

[00:04:17] Unknown:

now back to farts. The bit with Seth Rogen where he, like, almost hires them. Mhmm. He's like, I can taste it. Is that onion and ketchup?   Yep. Now the suit seemed fucked up.  

[00:04:32] Unknown:

This is what I like about the PMM recordings is we don't need to be chained down to any particular topic. We can just do this for hours and hours like the last episode title. Wasting an hour of your life with Max and John. A lot of people did reach out and say, that is an hour I will never get back. Oh, get out of it. People loved it.   I got completely different messages.  

[00:04:54] Unknown:

So there. Did you? Yeah. Okay. I think people like to throw abuse at me more than you.  

[00:05:00] Unknown:

I don't know.  

[00:05:02] Unknown:

I don't know about that. People like to whinge at you.   They like to bitch and moan   probably because they know you're quite proactive and you actually do stuff. So, like, I'm gonna bitch and moan to John because he'll fix my life. Whereas with me, they know they're just gonna get tough shit, mate. Sorry about that. Response.  

[00:05:19] Unknown:

Yeah. That's more like it.  

[00:05:22] Unknown:

I can't be bothered. Pretty much. I'm doing more bothering these last couple of weeks, mate. I've been doing a lot more bothering, a lot more   responses,   chirping up in the groups.   I don't know. Maybe people start whinging to me as well. Oh, it's so much aspire to. Yeah.   Oh, I hope so. Bring me all your problems. I haven't got enough.  

[00:05:44] Unknown:

I'm stacking problems. We've hinted at it in previous episodes that your life is changing and then on the last,   what's Bitcoin Monthly called now? It's not Good question.  

[00:05:56] Unknown:

Fuck's sake. Now you've caught me out.   The queue kept forgetting it as well.   UTXO   Management.   Fuck. What is it called?   Jordan's gonna be Bitcoin Brief. There he is. He's gonna be so annoyed. The Bitcoin Brief.  

[00:06:12] Unknown:

I gotta write this idea down. Hold on a second.   Old school. Well, yeah. That's a pencil, motherfucker.   Okay. Pencil?   Put it in a quill. It's my little inkwell.   Bam.   That's for the future of this episode.   Hey. Why don't we get into the episode since we're already here? Great idea.  

[00:06:36] Unknown:

For your safety.   Big pharma,   big banks,   income tax,   VAT,   the Illuminati elite, cultural Marxism,   critical theory.  

[00:06:48] Unknown:

You are nothing.   You are nothing to me.   You're a useless   fucking cunt.   You are nothing to me.   I  

[00:07:00] Unknown:

don't That's right. Localist,   Higgs, big pharma,   big banks.   You are useless fucking cunts. Yeah. Useless to me, useless to Max, useless to the ungovernable misfits.   How do we battle them? How do we take them down? That's a big theme on PMM.   Every month, we give you the tools to be your own boss. That's it. And bank?   And be your own bank and be your own daddy. Oh. Be the daddy of your family instead of looking elsewhere   for somebody else to be your daddy.   We only have 3 big themes here in this particular episode,   and that is   circular plebconomy,   as the Sollex family likes to say it. Shitting yourself.  

Now that's not really a major theme.   It felt like it this morning, though.   An in-depth review of Lake Satoshi on on the last, action news. We spoke   briefly about the Lake Satoshi experience, but we're gonna really dig into it and see things from, Soulex's eyes on an article that he wrote that's up on on Govermbersfits   right now called the Lake Satoshi report.   Then we will delve. You know, I hate that word. Mhmm. Like, delve. Use it a lot for someone who hates it. Go to hell,  

[00:08:19] Unknown:

pal.   We will delve into the depths of hell. Yeah. With Charles Muriel.  

[00:08:26] Unknown:

I I don't know what the name of his articles is   to give you I just had it up. It's pulled up somewhere.   We'll go over that. Admitting how bad things are. Is that the actual title?   Mhmm. Okay. Good. It's like first you have to realize you have a problem before you can solve it kind of thing. If you just wanna be a Pollyanna   and say everything's okay, how are you gonna have the wherewithal   to assess your problems and fix them? Charles Muriel goes deep.  

[00:08:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Did you read the article even though I sent it to you 4 days ago? Well, you didn't send it to me 4 days ago. You sent it to me   yesterday.   Let's have a look. Horse shit. Horse shit. You sent it to me   yesterday.   August   31st.   No.   You sent it to me yesterday.  

[00:09:15] Unknown:

Writings section of our group chat.   Mister Crown, Max, this is the Charles Mariel piece we will be covering on the next episode of PMM.  

[00:09:24] Unknown:

You need to be more specific with your language. Crown   gives a thumbs up. You, nothing. Well, there we are. I didn't see it. You need to be even more specific with your language. You asked me, when did I send it to you? And I answered correctly. You sent it to me yesterday   Mhmm. And you sent it to me   yesterday.  

[00:09:45] Unknown:

Oh, you son of a bitch. At 110 5,  

[00:09:49] Unknown:

it was sent. Then I woke up this morning,   and it was the first thing I saw. So, really, I had it this morning.   I should have made time to read it properly. I scanned it is the answer.   I scanned it. Got the overarching   theme.   But I really like it when you read to me, so I didn't wanna spoil it. Alright.  

[00:10:10] Unknown:

I'm gonna start having to record these things earlier   so you can listen to them on your little bike ride. Oh, that's not a bad idea. Yeah. That probably isn't a bad idea. Oh, but And by the way, so the audience knows I sent this on August 31st   to Crown and Max.   So it no. It wasn't specifically   Max alone on our private message. It was on our group chat. I don't like sharing. Yeah. That's what it is. You wanna be treated special. Have have your little bottom padded. Yeah. I love hand held.   Back to the show. So that's what we're gonna be covering on this episode of PMM.   First things first, we're gonna do our,   Lake Satoshi ad read in the form of going over Solix's   Lake Satoshi   report.  

And as we're going to do all year until the next Lake Satoshi event, we'll be playing a little bit of Michigan's own Bob Seger. I think this song is appropriate.   Just imagine   SolEx and the SolEx family   driving across the Midwest,   discovering America,   large dirty inner cities,   beautiful open expanse of the Great Lakes,   the woods and farmland of the great state of Michigan,   dipping up into disgusting   maple syrup eating Canada   on your way to Buffalo to see Niagara Falls,   to get back into the United States,   to the heart of the rust belt,   Buffalo, New York.  

And then   heading back over to the EU to live a miserable existence over   there.   And just let some of the European Union.   The World Economic Forum   and Hollywood pedophiles. No. I guess it doesn't really apply over there.   Soulex on the road again.   Soulex wrote an excellent article that's up on Ungovernable Misfits right now. As we mentioned, it's called the Lake Satoshi   Report   where he goes over, what Lake Satoshi was,   the power of community in action,   his value for value experiment in selling clothing that he made there,   reclaiming trust in community,   trust freedom in the social layer of Bitcoin,   and Fireside   Reflections,   proof of concept.  

I got to see SolEx in Lake Stochi and spend a lot of time with him and SolEx Boy and our daughters played together.   It was really beautiful. It's everything anybody's ever imagined the mesh to Dell to be.   You know, wherever I go, people ask,   where's Max?   All the time. Like, we live together or something.   I wish. Blizzard buddies.   Where's Max? Why didn't you bring him? You've left me at home. You're not coming. Somebody's gotta feed the dog.  

[00:13:10] Unknown:

I don't get to go anywhere. Poor me.  

[00:13:15] Unknown:

Yeah. Well It did look awesome, though. Solac's got to go somewhere. I just have a couple snippets from the article. Of course, all of our articles, please go to the beautiful Ungovernable Misfits website.   Read the articles. Listen to the pods from there. Each pod has really, really long show notes that relate to it. You might even get, like, an extra Easter egg inside the show notes that you didn't get in the show. Oh. Yeah. You like a little teaser. Someone might delve in. Yuck. Yuck. They could delve delve into this, pal. We're gonna read snippets of the article, but, of course, it's best to go to the source material.   So, like, starts out a unique gathering. Like, Satoshi was a beautiful, unstructured event, and, no, I'm not gonna read this in Solvix's foist the whole time. I was wondering about that. Yeah. Not happening. Built on well organized preparation. Yes. There was a speaker schedule, which I mostly missed, and I did as well. Food and drinks for every meal and plenty of facilities. But the overall vibe was one of freedom and flexibility,   an atmosphere where anything seemed possible in a way Lake Satoshi embodies the most positive aspects of anarchy,   not top down rules. Just friendly requests and advice.  

Everyone seemed motivated to do the right thing, driven by a natural peer pressure to maintain the event's laid back yet respectful   atmosphere.   I felt that way too there.   There's no pressure anything. Even when even when you go in,   initially, you're supposed to have already had a a ticket or pay for it there or find   or Mike or Ben and say, hey. Can I I pay for my ticket now   in some fashion or another? They use the Oshi app, which I don't prefer. I I just like to do, just give send a freaking address for something, but you could do that too if you want. Okay. It really is that. I I love that SolEx said that in the article that it's it's,   anarchy   at work.  

Freedom and flexibility   at work. Hey. You can pay now. You can pay later. You could have paid a year ago if you wanted to. And then when you go around to the lakeside of things, you find yourself a campsite   mindful of where somebody else is set up. Maybe you don't set up right next to them and and play music. That that didn't really happen. Everybody spaced themselves out appropriately.   There's very little direction, but somehow everything worked.   Respectful.   What a concept.   Everything was clean. Everyone cleaned up after themselves the entire time. Do you think that that is  

[00:15:36] Unknown:

down to the type of people that are going   and being pulled in, or do you think there's also almost a bit of a social pressure that keeps people in line   even though there's technically no rule. It's like, you know, if someone was being a right prick, we'd be on here saying, oh, you know that company was putting their tent right next to everyone and being really loud and really abrasive.   Do you think some of it's social pressure, or is it just literally people understanding that they can be respectful to each other, certain type of person  

[00:16:05] Unknown:

that it pulls in? Yeah. I think it's that certain type of person   initially   that is able to live in that kind of community Mhmm. Where people are expected to do that. It's like you have to start out with good source material. Mhmm. You have to start out with good source material. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. If you were to just go into,   some trailer park or one of America's   thousands of ghettos and just say, hey. Come to Lake Satoshi and be respectful   because we expect you to. I don't think you'll get the same results. I think that's the power of an intentional community is people come to that intentional community   because of certain morally aligned aspects of their personality and and their viewpoints in life. And so, therefore, you already have a great foundation   to build   intentional community   to society, that evolution of things. There is an expectation. They've already built that type of community there. You just go in and you know, first of all, Mike, the guy who owns the place with bitcoin 101.i0,   that's a respected guy amongst the Bitcoin community. He spent a lot of money, a lot of time, many years building out Lake Satoshi,   building out Bitcoin 101. They've got a bank there in in Ovid, Michigan where it's a whole Bitcoin learning center. They bought a bank and converted it into this, like, Bitcoin Museum.  

You can tell he and   and Ben and the whole Lake Satoshi crew have put a ton of work and time and effort and money into building this this citadel community there. So you go in and there's there's already a sense of reverence and respect. Yeah. Yeah. Look it up. Bitcoin 10101.i0.   We used to say that more on last year's   Lake Satoshi ad read. And for some reason, I didn't I didn't type it into my notes initially, and   then it never never got into the show. An actual use for a bank. Yeah. That's part of the Lake Satoshi experience is   eventually they they pull people away and say, hey. Who wants to go to to the bank   and see the Bitcoin Museum?  

And so some people do that. But me, I'm always busy yapping and talking to people. So I actually haven't gone.   Next in the piece, Solix titles, this section, the power of community in action. Lake Satoshi was a microcosm where community trust and social bonds were prioritized over commerce and profit.   The experience there demonstrated that despite the dominance of technology,   human connection is what truly matters. The community naturally took care of one another, evident in how Otis's wife spontaneously organized a playgroup for kids, allowing other parents to enjoy the event.   The communal care extended to vendors who would leave their stands unattended with a QR code for payment, trusting fellow attendees to pay fairly.  

It wasn't about sales, but fostering mutual respect and trust.  

[00:18:51] Unknown:

Very different to   what I've experienced with   conferences.   Totally different. You don't really know the people there. There's cameras around.   There's   Mhmm. Security everywhere.   You wouldn't trust leaving anything anywhere.   You certainly wouldn't trust anyone with your kids.   Yeah. Yeah. To have that kind of setup where it feels like much more like a family event to me. Mhmm. Without going just from what I've heard, Feels like a family event that everyone could enjoy  

[00:19:24] Unknown:

and, yeah, not about the money. Just like meeting like minded people, which is what it's all about at the end of the day. It felt like a family reunion in a way. I mean, a lot of these people I'm closer to with and second and second cousin run once removed and and 3rd cousins. I don't even know the whole cousin structure. It's confusing to me. My first cousins, I think, are about the only ones I can correctly identify.   Who   are you again? What are you to me? But it was that it was that same thing. You know, there's there's a guy, DK, that I met there last year. And he was sitting next to me and I looked over and I said, hey, DK. How are you doing? Hey. How are you doing? It it wasn't like, oh my god. Oh, yeah. That's you. I remember you. Aren't you, you know, this person or that? He's in the mesh to Dell. We've interacted throughout the year. It was just like no big deal. Bam.   Start talking to him   like last year never ended. And what Solix is talking about is we had a a table there. And like I'd said in the last action news episode, we had 2 Urlackers set up, and I brought this huge box of Ungovernable   Misfits T shirts.  

Our T shirt printer, I don't think we're identifying him, but he was there, and he brought   all of our spare inventory,   and we just had it there to sell.   And, honestly, I don't know if you and Crown are gonna like this, but I just left the box there at the table over tonight.   No big deal.  

[00:20:48] Unknown:

It rained pretty heavily. I just left it outside.  

[00:20:50] Unknown:

It couldn't go in there.   It was inside underneath the table, and then I had all the different shirts laid out, the pleb minor skull, the rat poison 1,   the time chain 1. What else would I have had there? Rat poison, pleb minor skull, time chain,   samurai,   Ronin Doja freedom defender   1 was out, you know, so people could see an example, and then I would hunt through and look for the size. Probably wasn't the best. But either way, SolEx was like, can I set up here? Sure. So he just set up on that that same table and had his wares for sale.   Then we wanted to go hang out at the lake and swim with the kids.  

So we just left it there. And Urlacher just running   on free power.   I don't even know. I think it was pointed to to,   all tires, you know, whatever pool selection   was there. I didn't change anything. No problem.   You know, here are these valuable machines.   Didn't expect anybody was gonna steal those. 1,000 of dollars worth of ungovernable   misfits, high quality shirts.   Yeah. Just left them there. No big deal. Somebody's wife. Hey. Your little one is absolutely obnoxious and shouldn't be in a setting like this. She needs to run wild and free.   Would you like me to take her up to the lake?  

Sure, lady, who I don't know, but I know your husband a little bit because he he does,   solar mining direct DC projects, and he roasts coffee.   Sure. Take my child.   No. I didn't think anything of it.   There's there's all like, those family connections are already built, whether it's in the Ungovernable Misfits community, the Mesh Diddell community, the Pleb Miner community, the Lake Satoshi, the the Michigan meetup community, or people from abroad.   We already all know each other. We've we've spent so much time building those connections and   friendships and familial   bonds with one another.  

It just felt like no big deal. Yeah. That's nice. Now I do make a habit of pawning off my youngest to anybody that will take her, so that's a little bit easier for me, but maybe for other people, that would   be that would be a hill to climb.   I'll tell you a story. Did I tell this in the last action news   about number 3 almost   drowning?  

[00:23:06] Unknown:

No. You did not. Okay. Quality parenting there, mate.  

[00:23:10] Unknown:

Oh, buddy. I'm the best. Alright. Now I set that up. She didn't almost drown. Okay? She's an excellent, excellent swimmer. Maybe too good for her age. We're at the shore   of the lake, and I'm speaking to a few plebs. I believe I was talking to Otis Spittmeyer and his wife and, pleb to polymath   and his wife, and,   maybe there are a couple other people there. And we're sitting on the shore, and I'm having a great conversation.   I think we were talking about pleb to polymath taking his cows to to the butcher shop and not having them already sold,   which is kind of nerve wracking from a freezer space position.  

It's like, okay. I'm taking these cows to the butcher shop. I gotta pay the kill fee. You know, I gotta pay to have them processed. I gotta figure out what cuts, and I don't have a customer already lined up for this. Then when I go back to the butcher shop, I don't have the freezer space for this. What the hell am I gonna do? And we were talking about, you know, what we do around here is just put it on Facebook, basically, and somebody picks it up. It's really not not a hard sale. That conversation brought up, well, what does Otis do about his coffee? You know, should he brew a bunch of coffee? And one of the strengths there is it's freshly freshly roasted on that. I said brew. Freshly roasted coffee beans. So you can't roast £20 of coffee beans and say, hey. Guess what? It's for sale. This is this is a problem, and we should   delve into this conversation a little bit more is   we can't do this model as plebs,   international   community where we hold a bunch of stock. And and I know you and Crown are already having this problem with Ungovernable Misfits clothing line. Yeah. Okay. We bought a bunch of stock at $40,000   Bitcoin.  

Now Bitcoin's   58 k. Oh, Christ. If I see another fucking 58 k meme, I'm gonna shoot myself in the head.   These people.   You know? And and so you already lost a ton on that. And now you're holding all this, and you've got a bunch of smalls and extra extra extra larges that are gonna sit there for who knows how long. I don't know. You might buy some, mate. Yeah. That's enough. I'm gonna do something someday.  

[00:25:15] Unknown:

I'm   gonna get healthy. No. I was saying small. You're looking quite skinny. Oh,  

[00:25:20] Unknown:

what's that?   Yeah. I didn't expect the compliment. You're looking quite feeble.   Yeah. Always got my dukes up with you. Come on. Take a shot, motherfucker.  

[00:25:31] Unknown:

But, yeah, that is a problem. Well, there's a few problems, like, in terms of   selling   low production run   stuff, whatever it is. Because, a, it generally costs more to produce, especially if you're doing it of high quality.   And then you've got the issue of if you're buying it using Bitcoin   and you're holding it for some time, you're   exposed to the volatility in the price, and you don't wanna gouge people's eyes out on prices because you're selling to people that you actually like.   So you're kind of stuck in this like, oh, I don't wanna have massive margins,   but I kind of have to have enough that hopefully I don't lose too much. But then Bitcoin can move so   crazy and all over the place that I think most of the time that we sell our clothing, we lose money. Like, that's ever since the very beginning. Because I remember   the first time we did it, the price moved against us really badly after we just bought it all. And this time, it's consistently been doing that as well. And then you have the issue of now you have the stock. You've got a global audience.  

Mhmm. The people we talk about on this show are dotted all over the world. And then it's like, okay. Now you wanna sell this stuff to them, and there's these county organizations   that cover each different land that people are in called governments. And they have these things called taxes   and import duties and these different rules about what you can and you can't   import   and then things get checked. And then you have the issue of people doxing themselves because they want return addresses   and names.   Almost everything   works within this Bitcoin world,   except that   you still have to ship things, and you still have the issue of price volatility because you still price things on websites   in dollars. Like, if I just put the shirts   are point 003 Bitcoin   Yeah. People can be like, what the fuck? Like, even though they're thinking of Bitcoin, they're not really thinking of Bitcoin. They still wanna see, like, what's the dollar amount and that's to be stable. There are issues, but we've got some ideas around that of, like, trying to   make things hopefully better for   people who wanna produce stuff like this Otis Bitmire. Like, I'd love to buy the coffee. I haven't spoken to him yet, but I'm like, I just know that the shipping and fucking around is gonna be a pain in my ass  

[00:27:56] Unknown:

and his. It was extremely simple.   Basically, we need more Lake Satoshi events so we can all get together and bring our wares.   We need the mesh to del concept to be built out   larger and stronger than   the Michigan meetup scene at Lake Satoshi   and the Dutch node runners scene over there. To me, as far as our mesh to Dell nodes, I've always seen those as as being so very strong.   But those are, like, super nodes.   Whereas, you know, SolEx, wherever he lives, is this micro node and and me here and what I'm doing and building and maybe 6 months to a year from now, I will, you know, reveal what's going on. But as you know, it it's kind of big. That's a little node,   untapped growth in Oklahoma. That's a well, I guess you could probably call that a super node, but they don't really have a lot of visitors down there. But in it in its production, in its beef production   and innovations   in breeding cattle and regenerative agriculture and high density management intensive grazing programs there that they're developing. You you know, Joel said on Twitter the other day that they're now one of the largest   ultra high density grazing  

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farms in the United States. Really? Yes. Well It ain't no rinky dink operation with 20 cows down there. I never assumed it was that, but there's quite a jump from one of the biggest in America, which is quite a big place and presumably has quite a lot of cattle, to, like, rinky dink. There's sort of like a a gap in between there, which is where I thought they would be. You know, the, you know, the huge gap is not a lot of people are doing management intensive grazing.  

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Rotational grazing is like a a niche thing. Mhmm. It's not being done at scale. And already within a couple years, Joel's doing it down there. So and, you know, long story short, that's that's a node down there. I think he's got a with his herd share program, which we went over in our maybe episode 2, episode 3 of PMM this year, the purebred managed mooing. If you wanna learn more about that, if you're a new listener to the audience and you want to understand what what type of growth is doing down there in Oklahoma, check out that episode.   Getting his beef to market, getting his beef over   to EU plebs,   Impossible.  

How the hell would you do that? Well, if we had all these little kind of micronode   things, maybe that would make it a little bit easier, but we still have huge huge hurdles we need to get over. Anyway, long story short, back to number 3, almost dying.   We're having this conversation.   You know, these these families are having this conversation with we we all make things. We all produce things for extremely productive people.   Mesh to Dell pleb community is extremely productive and hardworking. None of us are 9 to fivers   and then come home and watch the big game. And I don't know one pleb that lives that life. No. We're all stressed out,   sleep deprived.  

Every one of us. So we have things that we want to trade amongst one another, and that's the conversation that we're having. So while I'm deep in this conversation,   Otis' wife looks up, and I've granted   keep in mind she had watched her for, like, 2 hours   earlier in the day. And she goes, is that number 3 out in the middle of the freaking lake? It's a big lake.   Number 3 is I'm not gonna tell you her age, but she's   not in elementary school yet. That's good enough. And there she is. I'm like, oh, I wasn't even scared. Yeah. Because she's just that she's like a little a little gremlin. You you're not gonna little gremlin. You're not gonna kill her. You know?   But there she is. You know, there there's there's people on the boat. There's paddleboards, and she could get knocked   in the head. I'm like, oh, fuck. Swim out there. Rescue her. So what what are you doing? I wanted to hang out with them on the boat. She had made a friend out there. Okay. And then, you know, an an more mature   gal,   and she thought she was gonna go hang out hang out with her friend on the boat. Now meanwhile, they're all adults, and that's they they wanna go and hang out by themselves. No. You can't hang out with them, but that's not good good enough for her. So I had to rescue her, bring her back in. Now she's all upset, mad at me because I didn't let her swim out to a boat where a bunch of adults are hanging out. Probably cramped her style, to be fair. Oh, yeah. You have a habit of doing that. You cramp my style a lot from this well.  

That's the power of community in action right there, though. Not only did Otis Bittmeyer's wife watch number 3 for a couple hours, and that's can be very stressful with her. But she also was was on the you know, mom radar was banging 100%.   There's your kid. Go get it.   These things are automatic amongst the strong pleb community.   Next on this piece,   Solix goes over his experiment in value. At Lake Satoshi, I conducted an experiment with clothing I had designed, focusing on how people would respond if they set their own value. I took a table from John and followed other vendors by leaving a note, allowing people to pay whatever they deemed the closing was worth. Interaction was more important than price,   encouraging buyers to consider the personal value of their purchases.  

The trade I'm most proud of involved a board game I wanted for our family collection.   Soulex boy, the seller, proposed trading a hoodie from my collection for the game. This trade embodied the atmosphere at Lake Satoshi,   where value was about connections and shared experiences, not just Bitcoin.  

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SolEx Boy was the seller of the game. No. I think SolEx Boy had clothing.  

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He said he proposed trading a hoodie from his collection for  

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I get you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that it was just Solex and Solex Boy trading between one another, and I thought you could have done that at home, lads.   You didn't have to come to, like, state of Satoshi to do that test.  

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That's really expensive.  

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Yes. I've just reread that. That makes sense. I'd say you both you both lost out on that deal. Did you have, like, stands   all in one area altogether, like a little market kind of style? Yeah. You know, as I've mentioned before in the show, this  

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original location for Lake Satoshi started out as an excavating company.   So Mike, who owns an excavating company, and who owns another excavating company. This is a garage for them to   repair machinery. But they do a great job of converting it into a an event space.   So it's a large garage. There's a bathroom there and sort of an apartment loft thing. And BF sets up a stage and chairs and tables and everything. But when you go initially go into the garage, there's a little horseshoe shape of table setup.   So I imagine there were maybe   10 tables   and no table fee or anything. Hey. Do you need a table? Yes. Okay. Here's some space over here. You can sell and peddle your wares or just set up shop to talk to somebody about something if if you so desire. It's very, very open. What a difference.  



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Just to shit on Bitcoin Magazine a little minute. Do it. I had a message from them. Must have been, like, a year and a half ago. It was like,   oh, we love what you're doing with the, with the clothing and everything everything with Uncoverable Misfits.   We thought it might be worth you having an event space or whatever they call it. Please get in contact if this would be of interest,   maybe this sort of size, and they gave me all the info.   And it was, like, fucking I think it was, like, $20   for, like, a little skinny weasel tiny little space, and I thought Yeah. That's what I've heard. Have you got any concept   of   how many fucking shirts   Mhmm. We would have to not sell to get closer to not losing money to be able to think about that space? Like, it's a completely   unreasonable   idea for any   small pleb level person   to be considering. It's just it and that's a shame because it prices people out who have got interesting stuff. And then what you have is just, like,   a 100 fucking crypto lawyers   and, like,   a few   scammy cons. Like, you count you're never gonna get yeah. Exactly. Like, all accounting software to make sure you pay every set to the government. Stuff like that. Yeah. Exactly.  

Software to make sure you pay every sat to the government,   stuff like that, which is, like, completely   counter to what we care about. So it's cool to hear. Like, there's no fee. People can rock up and show what they can do.   So, again, jealous. It sounds fucking incredible.  

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I didn't sell a lot of shirts.   I probably could have sold more if I had,   you know, stayed there at the booth the entire time. At one point, like, Chet comes and grabs me and just, like, hands me some cash. Here, somebody bought some shirts. I said, oh, what? Cool. Okay. Do you know what they were? I I did keep a list. I actually still owe you for, like, 5 shirts. I did keep a list. Okay. Let me get some money coming your way. How exciting.   Oh.   Five shirts worth. But it was pretty neat. It was Every little helps at the moment. Yeah. It was just so laissez faire. It was excellent. I think next year, they're probably gonna do something where the marketplace   is,   separate because there were a lot of conversations going on, and people couldn't hear the speakers. And I've got a freaking trying to set these Erlackers up and went from the problem if you get an Erlacher,   spend some time on the Vonets part. That's the Wi   Fi section, and this isn't this isn't yet the Altair ad read. But logging into the Vonets   program and that takes the Wi Fi and puts it into Ethernet is a little clunky.  

And sometimes it, like, doesn't take on reboot all the programming that you put into it. So I was like, fuck this. I just wanna get one of these damn things up and sell some shirts and then get out of here and go play around with the kids at the lake. So I switched machines, and then that one, like, scaled up real loud. I don't know what the hell I was thinking plugging it in. Somebody was talking up on stage, and then you hear,   Fuck.   Sorry, everybody.   I'm an idiot over here. I'm trying to sell shirts to set up minors and do all this shit so that maybe the marketplace will be somewhere else from where the speakers are. But that's like how breezy it is. Hey, guys. Do you think we could separate this? Yeah. Sure. We'll figure something out next year. No big deal. Let's cut Bitcoin Magazine   bullshit.  

Pricing out plebs.   Hey. We've been here the entire time. 90% of your 95%   of your Bitcoin Magazine conference, your mining disrupt conference people   are not going to be there next year because they don't give a fuck about Bitcoin. They're just there to see if they can take advantage. And then when they realize, oh, this isn't,   some kind of get rich quick scheme. I'm out. I'll I'll move on to the next grift. Get poor slow scheme.  

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Say that again? It's a get poor slow scheme.  

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I thought it was some Polish guy you knew.   Get get.  

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It is a sketchy stuff. Brain.   No. That's what Ungovinal Misfits has been. It's been a get poor slow scheme. Yeah. For sure. More efficient, faster ways to do it. You could invest in some shit coin or do some, like, weird start up. You could lose it all Sure. In a flash. But if you wanna get poor slowly,   start a small Bitcoin business and hold stock that you buy in Bitcoin.  

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See, I'm I'm only brought into the side that actually makes money.  

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Actually, I'm not sure about that because you are involved heavily in mining. So that is also often a get more slow scheme.  

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Hell is. I I'm I'm hoping on the next episode of action news that,   fundamentals from rock paper Bitcoin.   He gets up in the morning, makes Otis Bittmeyer coffee,   stares in the sun, and then does math problems all morning. Or sunning his balls. Yeah. This is what this is his life. Okay. Why you if you had other choices in life, why would you do this? I don't know. But he loves it, and he's been pumping out some,   some mining statistics   lately.   Okay. And so I'm hoping that's all fleshed out by the next episode, and and we can oh, you know what would be fun? Let's do statistics from, like, fundamentals   is data, which I I bet is going to differ than than lens and brains insights and   mining pool stats dot stream, which are my main sources   of, statistics when we do that section. Yep. Let's do that. Fundamentals get on it. Get it all nice and clean and understandable   so Max and I's dumbasses can   pour through. Solix goes on in his article, trust, freedom, and the social layer of Bitcoin. Bitcoin's decentralization   removes the need for trust and money. It provides an opportunity to reintroduce   trust into our social relationships,   creating a community where human connection and mutual support take precedence   over financial transactions.  

Almost like you're   breaking down money to its its purest form. Like, this is just supposed to be a monetary transaction between one another.   Later on in the article, he has this one titled reclaiming trust and community.   Historically, money evolved from barter to facilitate trade across distances, but this abstraction has distanced us from the social aspects of trade.   Bitcoin simplifies transactions by removing many conversations. But to unlock its full potential, we must reconnect with the social relationships that make trade meaningful.   The concept of a mesh todell   represents thriving communities where Bitcoin fosters trust and collaboration.  

Lake Satoshi exemplifies this vision, suggesting a global network of meshdels could restore trust and enhance human connections.   Woah.   He says that so well. Yeah. He does.  

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Many little Lake Satoshis dotted around.   I talked for several, like, years ago.   He was talking about, like, pleb mail, just going back to this   issue of, like,   getting goods   across borders.   And we're talking about pleb mail being a way that it would not be guaranteed   to be fast,   but it would be like a trust based pleb   way of getting   for example,   if you knew that you were coming over to England   to finally come and have some lamb with mint sauce,   and I really wanted some coffee from Otis Bittmeyer,   then I could say to you, okay. Can you bring some coffee across?   When you're going back? You maybe could pick up something from the UK that someone wants in America to give to them. It just makes me think of that, like, if you have these little hubs where they would be almost like like FedEx hubs.  

Different people who were part of that web of trust could maybe say, oh, well, I'm gonna be going this direction at some point. I could take that. That might be a way around some of these these issues in the long run. 2 things come to mind. Number 1  

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is over the next 6 months, as you know, I'm gonna be   extremely   busy.  

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And I've already told you guys this, you and Jordan and and Crown. John's going on a round the world trip with the family. He's hit it big. So he's,   he's going on a cruise around the world,   hiring a yacht,   be sunning his balls in each ocean,   and, just relaxing, unwinding   a little bit. Fuck fuck you.  

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So I've I've already all about that. My work on Ungovernable Misfits. I feel that it's gonna wane. It's gonna suffer. Mhmm.   Good to know. Let's well, I I'm saying that because maybe 1 PMM episode, SolEx fills in for me. Oh, that would be nice. Yeah. When's the last SolEx,   recording?  

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3 years ago? Yeah. A long time ago.  

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Yeah. That he should probably fill in,  

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on a PMM episode if if I'm slammed. Oh, that'd be nice. I'd actually look forward to that. Yeah. I bet.  

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And the other thing I wanted to to mention is we did just that. Solex bought a ton of Ungovitable Misfits T shirts that he   smuggled into the EU and is going to,   exchange   with plebs where he lives in his   mesh to del node. So the snail the snail mail's happening.  

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We get our eyes gouged out otherwise, and so does the buyer.   Mhmm. It's a problem, and it puts a lot of people off. And and then the other issue is, like,   I don't know how much we can say. Well,   for the thing that we've talked  

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about no. I can't talk about that. Let's not say too much about that yet. I can't talk about that. Till we really flesh out that that concept.   We're getting close people to figuring out something that is serviceable.   There you go end of story.   So, Lex wraps the article up with fireside   reflections   proof of concept.   The insights for my damn it. I almost did it at this point.   The ins the insights from my visit to Rev Hoddle's farm were foundational to my understanding of Lake Satoshi.   The farm showcased a philosophy   of gentle stewardship and interconnected care extending to land, animals, and community.  

Conversations with Rev HODL about Bitcoin and the Lightning Network highlighted the importance   of social connections in trade, suggesting that networks should reflect personal relationships   rather than just transaction channels. At Lake Satoshi, I saw the Michigan network evolving,   emphasizing the social fabric of Bitcoin.   I envisioned creating a local version of Lake Satoshi, my own mesh to del inspired by the community's resilience and mutual trust.   This experience reinforced the true power of Bitcoin lies in the communities around it, not just its technology.  

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Very true. I can't remember who it was. I was oh, it was, Max Tannehill I was speaking to about this. When you actually look at Bitcoin,   depending when you got involved, but for us, sort of like   2017,   2018 is   when you look at   Bitcoin   as just an investment,   there are many things that you could have invested in and done better on if you look at it just through that lens. Well, yeah. Especially when you take into account   inflation and everything else. Like, when you really look at your purchasing power   from holding all that time, actually   not the   best. But what you do gain   is these connections and knowledge. So   if I simply look to Bitcoin as a investment, I'd go, I've done better previously with other things. Like, I I could have done better over these, whatever it's been, 8 years. But in terms of connections   and learning and everything else, there's nothing that's come close.  

Yeah. You don't make   connections   like I've experienced   anywhere else, and you don't learn the types of things anywhere else, and you don't meet the types of people that we have in the mesh to Dell   learning from Carl and others. Like, you just don't get that.   It's just, it's everything is just,   Fiat bullshit   wrapped in sort of clever marketing and scams, and you never really get to meet the people who really know what they're doing. So it's a very good point.   The returns have been excellent  

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in that sense. Very yeah. Well said. Completely agree. Before we move on to the next section of PMM, I have to   pee. Okay.  

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Yo. I'm back.  

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I did some good training today, mate. Did you? What'd you do? Yeah. Do you wanna know? Yeah. Because then then I'll feel like a piece of shit, and maybe I'll do something.  

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Good. Alright. Let's get this,   up then. Where's my workout?   Okay.   2 miles on the treadmill.   Wow. 2 hours of cycling Wow. There and back. Oh, yeah. They do that every day. Do that every day. Out there, out back.   1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,   7   sets   of   15 reps on leg extension machines   Mhmm. Goblet squats,   sumo squats,   a shitload of push ups,   incline, decline, and flat bench dumbbell,   5 or 6 sets on each,   tricep pull downs, tricep ropes, shoulder presses, standing military presses,   a fuckload of leg press, calf presses,   and stretching.   Holy   shit.  



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You did Oh, yeah. A banging leg day,   shitload of cardio,   chest and tries. Hey. You're throwing shoulders too. Why not? Yeah. Why not, mate? Not. I'll be back in tomorrow. Damn, boy. You're living the life. What I've been doing is, like, spacing out.  

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So I'll do a set. Like, I don't go in and just blast because that's like a lot of shit. Mhmm. It's a ridiculous amount of stuff in there.   So what I do is go through one exercise, and then I'll take, like, 3 to 5 minutes, do a couple of emails and bits and pieces or make a clip or do some social media shit or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And then I'll do the next thing.   That kinda works quite nicely.  

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Man, what a workflow you got going on. Mhmm. It's pretty neat. Our lives   used to be a lot of the same.   And now that you've pivoted to this and I've pivoted to what I'm doing, I feel like we're growing apart.  

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No. We're not.   No. We're not. Don't ever say that.   I was just kidding. I don't mean it. No. It's good. I'm happy with it and feel a little bit more sharp mentally,   especially now. Like, I don't feel as fucked. Yeah. Although, actually, I did wake up absolutely covered and pissed this morning. So that was, that was not a good start to the day. Your own piss? No. Actually not. Those days are pretty much gone. It'll be a few years until I reintroduce that probably, but   I've been sleeping in the same room as my little one   and put them to bed.  

I don't know how, but I forgot to put a nappy on them. Just like I don't know how the fuck that I've never done that before. Yeah. But it happened. And then I woke up this morning. I was like, why is this bed so fucking sticky and wet and disgusting?   I was like, it is hot here, and I can't open the window because I'm too scared they're gonna, like, click because they climb up and they, like, would jump out. So I've had to ratchet strap because they work they've worked out how to do the keys and the locks and all of that shit as well. So I had to actually ratchet strap the windows together, and I can't open them, and it's been fucking hot. So I was like, oh, maybe it's just like me being disgusting and sweaty. And then I was like,   no.  



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Me  

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No. And the child   and the bed   and the pillows   are covered in piss.   Oh, boy.   Oh, yeah. That was the start to the day. So only the only way is up. The only way is up, baby.  

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You know, my grandfather   used to tell us that That he pissed himself. You had that if you had acne,   you should pee on a rag and wash your face with it. This is true.  

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I've heard that before as well. And if you get stung by a jellyfish, you weigh on yourself. And,   apparently,   drinking your own urine can help if you've got cancer or certain cancers.  

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The power of pee. Mhmm. It's a lot of pee talk. Lot of poot we started off with poop talk. Now in the middle of the show, we're heavy into pee talk. Wavy, we should just want to boost.   Good idea. Thank you to the podcasting   2 point o   multiverse.   Value for value people support the show, and, we like to support them supporting the show by reading their boosts. You're up first, Max.  

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Hashlatet.   Max.   Sick face,   vomiting face,   queasy face,   vomiting face Sucks.   Sort your   life out. Jesus.   K. John,   microphone issues are a turn off. Sorry. I fixed it. All comes blazing here, isn't she? Yeah. Yeah.   Chet,   I want to sit on your s nine.   Okay.   Wow.   We've really lost her, mate. He's taken her. That's what he does. He does this, I've heard. Missus Botti,   I want to meet you   and your Volkswagen.  

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Woah.   Little girl on girl action.  

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Okay.   Lucky   Chet.  

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Lucky, lucky Chet. Got himself a, wildcat there.   Not so lucky mister Bottey. I don't know. Maybe. Depends on what he's into.  

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Let's see.   Well, thank you, Hashlata.   I guess we appreciate that.   8 Myth Randir,   77,000   oh, no. That's wrong. 8 Myth Randir,   77,777   sats. It's a tongue twister. Mhmm. They sold out of Ungovernable   Misfits, hashtag free samurai   apparel. How do you say that? Apparel? Apparel? Apparel.   Apparel. Apparel. So I'll boost extra sats instead.   Send some of these sats to samurai for me. I will do, mate. Yeah. And we should hopefully   be stocking them again soon. I have been chasing. We are getting   very close to having them back in stock. So I'll know more today, I think. And if anybody else would like to donate to Samurais Cause,  

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punch in your URL p2prights.org,   and you can donate there. Next up is Chet.   Rod Palmer signed the waiver for rights to take Hashletet out. He tried telling me she's an old nasty lady, so I'd lay off at Bitcoin fight club in Nashville. Turns out she's smoking hot.   Max, get off John's mom too. She can't tug on your nub with a hurt shoulder.  

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Tug on your nub.  

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You all crack my fat ass up. It was great to see those that came to Lake Satoshi. Thank you. Max, you're a nasty parmesan foot bastard for the image in my head. Fuck. I threw up in my mouth. Yeah.  

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Too much sharing with you. Yeah. I won't go into it anymore. No no more foot updates for anyone.  

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Thank you. Next up is late stage Huddl. With all these sats, I respectfully request longer episodes so I can waste more time. Thank you, sirs. Well, this one's currently at an hour, so that shouldn't be a problem. Mister mister had a number of boosts. Can we make this episode number 1 on fountain? It's currently number 2. Check it out. Boost. Boost until you bleed.   Forget the leaderboard. Boost. Boost. Boost. And of course, that last episode of PMM wasting an hour of your life with Max and John did reach number 1 on fountain, and thank you very much. Yes. Thank you. It was almost 400,000   sats boosted from from of the from of the pleb.  

Next, he says this show title makes me want to listen, and you did. Quite funny for regular listeners that is. My favorite bit was the fundamentals   special boost read by John lma0.  

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I believe that might have been a subway guy saying I'm not sure.  

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The content of this episode was hard to concentrate on first time around. I'm considering listening again probably not.   Yeah. Hard to concentrate on.   We that a d d.  

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It was a strength on us. Yeah. Yeah. I loved it as well.  

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Oh, well. What are you gonna do? This is just us. This is who we are. This is PMM.   Mhmm. This is it. Just loose. Fundamentals, John and Max are both funnier than Tom Segura. Also, you're better people. Hearing you suggest otherwise pained me.   Oh, well, thank you. Thank you, mate.   Rod Palmer from the Bitcoin Bugle boosted 20,000 sets, and, like, Satoshi boosted 15 1,000 sets. I wasn't supposed to read those, but they didn't have any comments, so I had to say something. Rod Palmer never really says anything. For a journalist, that's strange.   He's all tapped out writing articles for the bugle and doing their their podcast. I guess so. Well, we appreciate the stats anyway. Mhmm.  



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Shadrach,   I'm paying you to waste an hour of my life, question mark.   No. No, boys. I'm paying you to waste 8 plus hours of your life.   Thank you.   8 plus hours, I guess he means in recording and editing. Or If he if he only knew it's more than that.   Yeah. I wish it was 8 hours. Yeah. But thank you for the comment, and thank you for the Thanks, Shadrach.  

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Mhmm. May I tell a a little story? I also don't I have no recollection of what I said on action news and what I'm gonna say here. I do remember saying on action news briefly about Lake Stoshi, and then I would go into more detail Okay. On on this show. Yeah. So if I if I had already told the story, please stop me.   It takes a village.   You know? Are you familiar with this this term as far as raising children? It takes a village. It's usually some, like, progressive bullshit for the government to get involved in your life and, public education and, you know Stop. Feeding  

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You've done the story. Done the story. Like to see like to see the grandfather in Shadrach. Yeah. Okay. Good. Yeah. Hey. Good guy. Thanks thanks for helping out with with number 3. It took a village. Guy. Great story the first time around.   Still quite good the second time around. When it gets to the 4th or 5th time that John has told this story to me, it is less interesting.   Nonetheless   nonetheless,   really cool to hear you were jumping in and helping, and I don't know. Maybe you'll be a grandfather soon. Good practice.   Bon.  

Oh, I was speaking to Bon earlier. Well, actually, I was speaking at him. I was sending him a voice note. Oh. He sent me a very lovely   message   about me going full time with this and wishing me good luck. And,   it was very, very nice. Yeah. So I sent him a voice note that he probably won't be able to hear.   Bon,   you guys made it pretty hard to hold my paintbrush steady listening to this one. No more PMM at work anymore.   Laughed out loud so many times during this one.   FF Oshima means fat fuck.   Subway guy deserves his own  

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show. Laughing face. I don't know if I could do this voice for an hour at a time, but I'd give it a shot, you know, if you really enjoyed it. I'd do it for you. I would do it for you,   bun.  

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PodConf,   rubbish.   Do not support these frauds.   They are attacking Bitcoin price increase.   It's true. We're the ones suppressing the price. We're the ones who are keeping it at 58 k. It's our fault. Mhmm.  

[00:58:24] Unknown:

Sorry. Sorry, Podkampf.   They're the enemy. They're truly the enemy. Sorry. Not sorry. Podkoff and I did come to some agreement.   There was a thing on Twitter from this guy named Matt Walsh who who used to work for the Daily Wire or still does work for the Daily Wire.  

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Oh, yeah.  

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I know the sky. Cut his teeth in, like, the conservative   news broadcasting space by,   challenging people on the trans kids things. It's was a lot of good material.   It's definitely good pieces that he did, but he's questioning raw milk. Oh, you don't fuck with raw milk. Yeah. Yeah. So PodConf had said something about raw milk, and I said, boy, this is the first time we've agreed on something, PodConf.  

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What's your take on it? Because I actually saw that, and he was saying something about, like, oh, we don't live in a third world country. Like, this is stupid that you're gonna do this because you can get only listed off a load of different diseases and stuff.  

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Listeria   and E coli. Yeah. Listen. No word.   Alright.   I don't let's do this some other time. Oh, okay. Let's do the let's do a whole raw milk thing on the next PMM. Okay. I look forward to not doing that with you. Oh, no. Come on. Well, you know we're not gonna do it because you're so busy now. You're so cool. No. I'll I'll put it in my notes. I swear I'll do it. I'll do a whole raw milk thing. Okay. We'll do a raw milk thing. Hey. We gotta tease things. Just give them all. Let's blow our load here in one show. You're gonna have raw milk  

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all over you very soon. Oh, yeah.  

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Where is that, baby?   Give me a   stove. It's cold.   My nipples are hot.   So Now I've got e coli bacterias   all over my body   and all the folds.  

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To all the new listeners,   I apologize.   We do actually do some educational shows as well. Stick around. Don't be put off by,   an e coli. Yeah. Bubba.   Shucks boys. I wanna meet y'all too, and maybe we'll have to group hug.   See? Bubba likes group hugs.   After the 5th whiskey,   and then we will let the music do the talking.   Max, we will let you live in Northwest   Arizona   among us desert rats.   We will be waiting.   This episode feels like a rough quickie in a barroom   bathroom.   Very satisfying.   Fire, whiskey,   cigarettes,   gay little rainbow. Thank you, Bubba. It did feel a little bit like a, quickie in a barroom bathroom. Not that I would know, but I would imagine it's something similar to that. No. You wouldn't know anything about that. No. I would not. Too classy. I'm a classy gentleman.  

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Oh, we know. English gentleman, of course. Mhmm. Up next on podcasting 2 point o value for value boost, we have wartime with a heart and a cheers clinky glass. Thank you, sir. SolEx, well, that is an hour I'm never getting back, smiley face. Using this boost to say Lake Satoshi is the best Bitcoin event for me. Got to meet John over there. Party time.   Bad for privacy though. Now, at least 4 people there know who I am.   It was worth it buddy. You know it. Vic, I'm an expert at wasting time. I can waste an hour of my life and only 45 minutes.   That's impressive, sir.  

That is impressive. And Phomotronic   gave us a boost. Thank you.   Next up on Ungovernable Misfits,   PMM,   we have   one of our favorite sponsors, Bifrost Manufacturing.  

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One of our favorite sponsors. One of our favorites. Yep.   We all favorite them equally.   Wasn't it Bifrost you wanted to get it out the way last time as well? No. I think it was Altair.  

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Oh,   let's get this out the fucking way.  

[01:02:28] Unknown:

Let's get these bitches out the way. Fucking hell so we can get on with the show. Will they stop paying us money so we could just do the show?  

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No. No. Our sponsors are a vital part of ungovernable misfits and especially Bifrost manufacturing   in the PMM space   with   our, perhaps the   the meshadell   snail mail concept   or this issue that we have with getting products and goods and services across international lines with cut   value added taxes and   cut piece of shit customs people. Anybody that is a customs   guy that flags stuff day in and day out.   Oh, man.   Oh, man. What I think of you?   You know who you are.   Anyway,   Bifrost Manufacturing   is working on some really incredibly   cool stuff.  

Was talking to Aaron the other day, the owner of Bifrost   Manufacturing and Sundog Mining. They all got certified on TIG welding, which is is very difficult   to do. I tried it there at Bifrost. It was bad enough at welding, but then TIG welding,   forget about it. That's a skill. What's the  

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remind me. 1 is where   the weld comes out of the end of the welder, and one is where  

[01:03:42] Unknown:

you have a separate rod or, like, a separate thing, which is which Yeah. That's the TIG welding where you can weld aluminum. Your timing has to be right, and you have to adjust the foot pedal for for a boy if all the welders can be like, this guy's an idiot on his shit. Yeah. Watched him for, like, 5 minutes. Alright? So that's the extent of my my TIG welding experience. My my buddy Andy can do it. If I need something welded, I just clean it up and take it to him, and then all of a sudden, it's done. So What's the other one? Is it make and TIG? Mig and TIG. Yeah. I've done some Mig. I've never done any TIG. Well, it's quite something   You know, every time we run into this, we ask the audience to comment in the boosts to give greater clarification, and they usually do. So any of you welders out there, give us a rundown.  

Also in the happenings of the Bifrost manufacturing   space in,   North Dakota,   they are sponsoring the North Dakota Signature VEX   Robotics Competition   hosted by the University of North Dakota College of Engineering and Mines.   It's a competition that takes place from October 31st to November 2nd at the Alris Center in Grand Forks, North Dakota. It's where middle and high school teams from across the region design, build, and program robots that compete head to head in a 12 by 12 foot arena. The kids will be showcasing their engineering prowess and strategic skills in both autonomous and driver controlled rounds. That's pretty nice of them. Sponsored the kiddies in their robotics competitions.  

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Top tip for anyone who is involved in that competition.   I always like the ones that are sort of, like, based on a bit of, like, a lawnmower design,   just like rotating  

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on the outside because it just fucks everything up that comes near it. I always like those ones in Robot Wars. It's not Robot Wars. This is the whole competition they do. They have different games. One's the high, high stakes and that's where teams collect and score objects balancing   risk and reward in the strategic game. They have over under where robots place objects in elevated goals while defending scoring zones. Sounds like basketball to me. They've got spin up. Robots spin and shoot discs into goals focusing on precision and timing. They have a game called tipping point where teams balance platforms with objects managing weight distribution   to score. It's very technical.  

Change up where robots score by placing balls in connected goals   and change their state for points.   Takeover tower where teams stack cubes and goals and towers   maximizing point values.   And starstruck, where robots fling star shaped objects over a fence to score points. Now you're you're throwing shurikens, so that's pretty pretty badass  

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robot wars type shit. That is cool. But if you do think about doing Robot Wars, if you think about adding that in there as well  

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Spinning disk. And make it happen. Yeah. I like I like spinning disk. It's a good one.  

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I like Robot Wars.  

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While Max is coughing,   what are we doing with it? And you guys can stop, drop, and boost the show.   Something new.   Stop.   Drop.   Shut them down. Boost this show.   Woah.   Cheap bucks.   Give us your sats.   Right now, if you're listening on a podcasting 2.0 application, look down at your phone, hit that boost button, and send us some sats. You'll also see a wonderful GIF of DMX and the Rough Riders stopping, dropping, and boosting themselves.   Did he die? Oh, Oh, I never did look it up. I'm just gonna say, yeah. He he he did. He died. Okay. Die. It's a rough ride of life. What are you gonna do? I'll pull one out for my fallen homie. Yeah. Do it. Well, Max, where do you wanna go now with the show? Do you wanna do talk about Altair? Pouring out   some protein shake. It wasn't a 40 of old English. It was not. O e.  

Where do I wanna go with the show? Yeah. Where do you wanna go with the show? You wanna do our boosts now? Go back to the boosts. You wanna talk about Altair. You wanna get into the Charles Muriel article.  

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I think we finished with the Charles Muriel article. Oh, great. Nice. Yeah.   Shall we   jump into the Altair   band?  

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Just get that out of the way. Let's do it. Let's get this out of the way. What's that up in the sky while it's Altair?   Altair tech dot I o, Bitcoin mining solutions is the next sponsor on the show. As we've been talking about all episode at Lake Satoshi,   Altair's creations were well represented there with the 2 Urlacher bills, even interrupting   one of the very important talks at Lake Satoshi with the screaming of an Urlacher miner as it initially booted up. But then, in hushed tones, it just mined away for the next day on free power. Who paid for the power? I don't know. I didn't unplug it at night. I went there the next morning. It was hot as hell inside   of that of that warehouse, and there was a guy, like, staying at the, the little loft apartment they they had there. And he's like, I heard that thing all night. I was wondering what the hell it was. Well, it was a minor.  

It was so it was so unassuming that he didn't realize where the noise was coming from. It's just the soft the soft were beautiful, really. You too can get yourself a heater right now because it's time to prepare for winter   this moment. Don't wait until it starts to get cold and October. Be prepared. Get your home heating stuff right freaking now. How noisy is this thing? The Urlacher is pretty un pretty unnoisy.   I think we spoke about it when noisy. Unnoisy. Sure. Yeah. I can use that. It's fine. Yeah. Okay. We were at so this is twice now. I've been at an event and displayed in Urlacher. The first time was at mining disrupt,  

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and Barn and I made it a barn miner   with his olive oil hooves. They are so nicely groomed.  

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We were at the load booth and trying to figure out how to set up this miner because you couldn't do it on the Wi Fi network there. It was, like, way too congested, so we just did it on my phone. And we didn't even know that it was on until we actually felt heat coming up the front of it. Mhmm.   Because the back fans don't turn on unless they have to. Just the front ones do. They're like, this thing's broken. We don't know what we're doing. We're supposed to be motors. But it it it was working just fine. No problem at all. So it's pretty quiet, especially if you you underclock it. It's gonna produce less heat. You tune it to your specs.   You think about getting one?  



[01:10:36] Unknown:

I'm considering it, although I still haven't set up my fucking bit access. Get the fuck out of here. Oh my Yeah. Well, do you know what? I did try and set them up, and then one of the screens on one of them wasn't working, wasn't turning on. And I was like, oh, I think I need that for part of the setup process. So I think I actually need the screen.   And then I got distracted, and I was like, oh, I'll come back to it. And I I have them. So I really appreciate you send them out to me also. He's so glad he rushed, you know, because he were like, yeah. I'd be interested in some of those. Oh, I chipped them off right away. Oh, you got them to, you know, 2 or 3 days later. How great. He has a sense of urgency. And here you are. Oh, I don't know. Screen, mate. Sorry. Yeah. I don't know how to fix it. I took the case off and took the screen off and then checked the connections and did that a few times and couldn't get it to work. So I was like,   I'll do this later.  

So I I haven't done it. I will do it, and I do appreciate   it. But, yes, if I get those running, I know I'm probably gonna get overly excited   and just start adding extra things.   And also that other thing, I don't know if you have it on the list, but the coffee warmer thing. I was like, oh, that's a bit of me. Oh, you do have it on the list. That's a bit of me. Like, that's the sort of thing that I would have on my desk, maybe not when I'm recording because it probably makes some noise, I'd imagine, and just keep my coffee warm. That would be nice. That's perfect for you. It is. Nobody else in the mining space is doing all of this in one site, and that site being altairtech.  

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Io.   If you'd like to order a pre order, a mine coffee, coffee warmer, an Urlacher,   a Bitaxe,   or   better yet, get yourself an entire   mines worth of giant machines and mine yourself right into the poor house like the rest of us have done.   You can visit altairtech.   Io.   Mining is tough, but if you want a little bit of a discount, we can get you that 1% off if you use coupon code   ungovernable.   Max, what's that coupon code, sir? Ungovernable.   Max, that just wasn't good enough. I need some enthusiasm. Do you want these people to save 1% on their orders from Altair tech dot I o or not? Oh, I do. Use the code  

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ungovernable.   There you have it. You happy with that one? I am. I'm happy that you're happy. And I'm even more happy that listeners are gonna be saving   money on their orders and plugging in more hash.  

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Indeed.   Winter's coming. Prepare right now.   Shall we go back to our boosts, Max?  

[01:13:12] Unknown:

Hopping about all over the place there, mate. But yes. Totally. Yeah. Where did we get to? You're up next with an expatriotic   boost. Let's see if it's about coffee this time. It's gotta be, hasn't it? It's gonna be coffee or   the English language.   Let's find out.   Expatriotic.   Running low on sats in fountain.   Here's my pittance.   Boost. Erectile dysfunction.  

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Just wonder what you're gonna do with that. Weird.   Yeah. He's not happy about his erectile dysfunction. Oh, erectile dysfunction.   You make my wife unhappy.  

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At q and a, good afternoon   at Ungovernable Misfits RSS feed. I don't know what he's doing here. What's he doing? He's just linked to show. Yeah. Is he boosting   the show that I do with him   inside the show that I do with you?   I don't know. Anyway, love your q and a, you weird little robot.  

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What do you think he's doing? What is that? I don't know. I was trying to figure it out because somebody else did it too, Put a link into the episode. I I can't remember where it was. Do you know what it's like? Kind of,  

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like, search engine optimization kinda deal. I think this is this nostring.  

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I think he's nostring.   He's nostring.  

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Dirty, dirty robot. You can, like, fountain in a nostril and nostril in a fountain, and your nostrils go through the fountain and in the feeds. And   there's nodes and things and Mhmm. Nips and all sorts of things going on.   The hot in here? Cyborg,   alien face   surfer dude thing slash rock thing. Hang loose. It's called hang loose. Hang loose. I'll get it one day. Thanks, Cyborg. Sure will. Yes. Thank you, Cyborg.  

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Up next on our boosts,   we've got a Dominic the donkey update with pies at a pleb. Hey, chingy, ching.   It's a pies at a pleb. He says, I fucking hate cats. I'm allergic, and they're evil. Alright. Very well. I'm with you there, mate. Max moved to dirty Jersey so I can train you to do pull ups like a g in the prison yard.   I I think you're pretty and give a couple months. You could be giving Pazza a run for his money with all this training you're doing.  

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That is, that's very kind offer. But, honestly, I would probably rather not be in prison. It feels like it might be close here in the UK, but He said like.   Oh, like. Okay. In that case, yes. That sounds great. I don't think he was trying to put you in prison.   That's the UK government's job. Mhmm.  

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Next, he says, women with British accents is sexy. Men with British accents sound like cunts.   U S A   F U, Great Britain. Fair enough. Next, he says, stop, drop, and boost, motherfuckers.   Yeah. Do it. Pies actually tells you when he hears the DMX song. He goes right. He he does. He picks up his phone and hits the boost button. He says fundamentals boost was great, John. You are a comedic genius. Laughing face, laughing face, laughing face.   Max, you British cunt. Don't be a bitch. Get on Noster.   He really hates where you're from.   Mhmm. Yeah.  

Was laughing so hard doing 100 on the highway, almost got in an accident. Now that's 100 miles per hour, not 100 kilometers per hour. So that's fast. You don't used to tell me that we invented miles and per's and hours.   Wow. Science. The Jersey turnpike will never be the same once Pies is done on it. Next, he says, John, I got some homies in the hill in Pittsburgh.   I'll let them know to watch your back. Clinky glass, mushrooms,   smoking a cigarette to something else, and the muscle.   Hey, thanks. The hill has changed quite a bit. It's,   not as rough. It's probably rough as it used to be, but the hill district has got a lot of hipsters. Hipsters have taken over Pittsburgh. They did the same thing. Bloomfield, Lawrenceville, Polish Hill. It's fucking hipsters everywhere. The hell these people coming from on their little bicycles and their tight jeans and   then coffee and piercings   and crappy tattoos that don't mean anything.  

Oh, it's a what is that tattoo? Oh, it's an outline of a dinosaur.  

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Stegosaurus.   What the why would you get a tattoo of that? You know the little hats that they have on the top of their head, like, just rolled up? It looks like you've just taken a condom out of the packet and then placed it on your head. Do you know the ones I'm in? I do. Yeah. They seem to reside normally in the cities.   There's loads of them in London, like, in the little cool parts. But the weird thing is, like, most of them are actually really rich with, like Yes. Mommy and daddy's money. Trust funds. Mhmm. One of my friends calls it peasant chic.   Nailed it. They can actually drive around and bent these, but they've got, like, 5 children on a bicycle. It's peasant chic. Oh, these people don't even have children.  



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It it was, not too far off, but this is what we do on PM members get far off of topic. When these people first started moving into Pittsburgh,   you know, like the locals,   we'd be walking around. Let's let's say Lawrenceville.   You know, this is just one big flat area. Lawrenceville was all Irish.   6th and 9th sport in Lawrenceville. And then when these hipsters started moving in and, like, going to our our bowling alley, the bowling alley there in Lawrenceville called Arsenal Lanes,   you can't go in there now without it being just flooded with hipsters.   We used to close that place out. People until 2:1 o'clock in the morning because we knew, you know, we knew who owned the place. We could do whatever we wanted to. Now, like, Sarah and I were gonna try to reminisce a little bit and go down to arsenal lanes, but it it's all hipsters.  

Disgusting.   That was my bitch about hipsters.   To be fair, they don't really do anything. They're just annoying. They raise property values. This is true. Wanna buy the shit $15,000   house. 10 years later, it's   $400,000. Why? It's just a shitty row house? I don't I don't know. Because hipsters.  

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That's fair. They're not mosquitoes. They're more like flies. They're not actually harming you. They just make the environment that you're in worse.   Yeah.   Anyway.   Anyway.   Fuck you hipsters. Last fuck you hipsters.  

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Last boost from pies. Love the outro song. I believe that was,   what was our outro song there?   Don't remember. It wasn't neon rust, was it? No. That was the last action news.  

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No. It was the last action news. Can't remember, but it would have been good. That's for sure. Of course. We don't we only pick bangers here. Oh, my ears are getting so hot.   Oh, yeah. Tell me more. No. I mean, these fucking headphones. It's a 1000000000 degrees in here, and I can't open the window because of, noise.   I might have to actually take them off for a second.  

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Okay. Are we still, we still doing good? You you got one more boost. You're you're gonna finish it out.  

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Okay.   At brother   Abel, prayers for John's mother, hoping her shoulder recovers well. Little prayer slash high five hands.   Thanks, brother Abel.  

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I'm pretty sure he's praying.   I would imagine so. My mom's not gonna be too good for high fives if she's got shoulder problems. Depends which shoulder. That's true. I mean, no. I think it's her right. Write her off just yet. Well, I didn't write her off. She's doing her red light therapy and all this alternative stuff and her   yogas and chiropractor   thing. And she's a you know, she'll do it from all directions there. You wanna go conventional medicine? Okay. But I'm also gonna do this nonconventional   holistic stuff at the same time. Maybe she'll put some crystals on it. I don't know.  

I would not put it past her.  

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Put some crystals on that.   Oh, can I take these headphones off for   for a minute, please, mate?  

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I'm actually gonna die. Sure. Would you just like me to go on with the Charles Muriel stuff?  

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How about this You'll you'll get you'll get back to me. How about I can take them off, go and take a piss. By that time, I'll have cooled down slightly, and then we jump into Charles Muriel. Very well. I'll just wait. Okay.   Sorry about that, mate. It's,   it's these over ear headphones.   They're like pleather,   sweaty   shit.  

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Oh, yeah. Sounds like Saturday night.   Up next on Ungovernable Misfits PMM, we have another wonderful article by   Charles   Francois  

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Bienvenu   Muriel.  

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Such a great name. I was talking to   Charles Francois Bienvenu Muriel the other day, and we talked for about 3 hours.   Wow. Yeah. All over the place in conversation.   Smart guy. He's a smart guy. Yeah. Conversations go deep and very   personal. And then after the conversations, I'm, like, in deep thought for a good hour after that. Just reviewing all the things that we talked about, trying to get an understanding of where he's coming from. Great conversation,   deep thinker,   and he causes you to think deep as well.   We've got an article by Charles Francois Bienvenu Muriel up on the Ungovertible Misfits website under writings.  

If I can request of crown, maybe he'll have this done before. Can we please get a Charles Francois Bienvenu Muriel   section so people have don't have to go under misfit rants to find his writing? Good idea. And I would also  

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ask, it would be just lovely if there was a way to search. And I know the response will be   a technical reason why   it's better to Google   search the thing, and then you can find it in Google search.   But if there was a way that it could be done so I could find things,   I would love that, please.  

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I will say crown search engine optimization   with the Google search is excellent because I use it all the time.   Ungovernable misfits,   Charles Muriel. Bam. The stuff comes up. I want a I want a specific baseload article. I want a specific,   podcast that we did with somebody. It it is very searchable on SEO, so I would give him mad props for that. Maybe there's a way  

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that you could search in a box on Ungovernal Misfits,   and that would behind the scenes   just paste that into Google, do the search for the person, and then take them to that page because it's effectively doing the same thing. Just most people who go on the site don't know to do that. So they're like, hang on. I wish there was a search function here, and there isn't. And then unless they really listen enough or they're, like, in our backroom conversations, they wouldn't know to do that. And they might go, oh, fuck this then. Mhmm. Maybe that's a way around it. Perhaps. I don't know. That's up to you guys. A more technical thing. Just from a  

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a blue collar perspective, sometimes I'm looking for a baseload article. Sometimes I'm looking for something on mining or Charles Charles Mariel article. The other day looking for Ben Gunn's series that he did because I wanted to share with fundamentals   comes from the traditional finance banking   insurance cabal. And I said, boy, I think you and Ben Gunn would have a lot to talk about. And he's like, who's Ben Gunn? I said, here, let me send you these, these recordings and these writings that he that he did. Here, let me fuck up your life. Yeah.   I think he went right into it and started listening to the to the episodes, the original one. You you can't eat sats. Mhmm. Which I think off top of my head was October of 2021, if somebody wants to go back and listen. Anyway, back to the Charles Francois Bienvenu Muriel article.  

It's titled   admitting how bad things are knowing how good they can be.   Initially, he starts out with why is it vital to admit how bad things are?   Jimmy was 12 when he broke his arm on the playground.   When he went home, his mom told him it wasn't that bad and did not take him to the hospital or doctor to get it set properly and heal. As a result, he suffered with pain as his bones healed improperly.   Later, he had to go to a medical professional for the bone to be broken intentionally so that it could be reset and healed. Until that happened, he suffered. In order for us as individuals to heal, and for our culture and society to heal, we have to admit how bad things are.   If we don't have the context of what is helpful and what is harmful, we will continue to get sicker and sicker. Having context is what is healthy, is what allows us to strive for something more.  

The challenge is that many people give up and believe that a free society is unachievable,   that resistance is futile.  

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Good point. I don't like it when I see that when people just sort of roll over and go, yeah. Everything's fucked. We're fucked.   And they talk about it all the time, but they don't wanna, like, try and fix it. And there are definitely elements   that are just, like,   just fucking don't even bother. Just, like, leave that alone and focus on other things, but you still should focus on other things. I can't be bothered.   I'm just gonna go home and watch a telly.  

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We speak at length in other Charles Mariel articles about demoralization.   And so that's the that's the demoralization   tactics by by our oppressors that are working   when you feel that resistance is futile thing.   Charles goes on in the article, many people believe that the books like Brave New World in 1984   predict a scary totalitarian future, and are cautionary tales of which is yet to come.   What many people fail to see in these books are in many ways actual depictions of what is happening today. We live in a world where there is no real privacy. Even if you try to use software that increases your privacy, the hardware itself is likely compromised.   The level of sophistication needed to achieve a real sense of privacy is just not attainable to most people.  

Heads of state often have their hardware compromised by other nation states. The lack of privacy is much more sinister than many people care to admit. It is used to collect information to shape people's perspectives on the world but ultimately is a demoralization tool.   Most of us allow social media and individuals on the internet to shape our view of the world. Prior to the internet, people relied on newspapers, books, and television. All of these mediums can be and are controlled.   The internet is very different because it can give people personalized views on the world depending on what their values and interests are.   Big tech can mine data in order to personalize individuals views on the world. That is why your experience   and view on things can be so radically different than your neighbor. In 2020, during the lockdowns, families and communities were torn apart and divided as a result of this. Parts of the population believe that COVID 19 was the most dangerous illness ever to hit humanity   and considered their neighbors and family members toxic bioweapons that would kill them.  

Others believed that it was all a scam and that PCR nose swabs were implanting microchips inside your nose.   Determining the truth was incredibly difficult. It generally is difficult, if not impossible, to verify what is true because we all can rely on the majority of times is both what we are seeing in the real world, but also what we are told by others to see online.   We are rapidly moving towards a world where it is safe to assume that everything we see on the Internet is completely fabricated.  

[01:28:13] Unknown:

I saw an interesting tweet from, not my favorite person, but interesting nonetheless.   Elon Musk retweeted,   people who can't defend themselves physically,   women and low t men,   pass information through a consensus filter as a safety mechanism.   They literally do not ask, is this true? They ask, will others be okay with me thinking this is true? This makes them very malleable   to brute force   manufacturers consensus.   If every screen they look at says the same thing, they will adopt that position because their brain interprets it as everyone in the tribe believing it.   Good point.  



[01:28:55] Unknown:

Highlighting the importance of   riding your bike 2 hours a day, lifting weights,   doing legs, chest, tries, and throwing shoulders there. You gotta keep that tee up. You can't be mind controlled. It's more because  

[01:29:10] Unknown:

there's such a steep slope to climb   when you're as fucked as I currently am.   You just gotta go for it. Mhmm. And the bike thing, I'm quickly realizing. I knew it'd be annoying. I was like, I'm gonna sell my car so that I can do this. I know it's gonna be annoying riding a bike every day. It's days when it   rains where you go,  

[01:29:32] Unknown:

this is particularly shit. I can see why we went to carriages.  

[01:29:38] Unknown:

Yeah.   But, yeah, getting fitter and less easy to manipulate.  

[01:29:44] Unknown:

You fucks.   Yeah. That's kind of dystopian in a sense for I don't know. Let's just take men. Let's admit the fact that most of this audience is   20 to 50 year old men. Mhmm. That's not true.   That's not true that most of this audience is 20 to 50 year old men. I didn't say we have no women. I just said most. No. I don't think it's most. I think it's mainly female.   Oh, okay. Well, for those very few 20 to 50 year old men in this audience,   keep your testosterone levels up so you don't get mentally manipulated. Mhmm. Get at it. Charles continues on in his article. People at their core are ungovernable   because they are self interested. That's a very Ayn Rand thing to say, isn't it? It is. What a legend, by the way. Yes. She is. High t female.  



[01:30:34] Unknown:

Yeah. High t female. What a hard bitch. Have you ever seen the interviews where you've got, like, the Marxist y type, like, fucking retard interviewers who are trying to, like, trip her up and, like, trying to paint her in a certain, like, way Chain smoking the whole time. She just fucks people up. Yeah. What a legend. I would love to be able to sit and have a conversation with her. She's so much more high t than 99.999   percent of men. It's enough. But only 90%  

[01:31:04] Unknown:

more than our listeners. Yes. The ruling class's ambitions generally are counter to that of the individual. But for them to accomplish their goals, they need to pacify the population.   This is why democracy   is such a powerful way to co opt people because it gives them the illusion that they have a choice or power to make changes when they really don't. The political process is a way to corrupt the individual and get them to engage in incredibly unproductive   activities.   Then he posts a video   that I think everybody should click on. I was gonna try to summarize it, but it's like,   I think it's called mister Jones's plantation.  

Basically, they convince the slaves to   participate in more of a free market slavery or say, hey, well, you're not slaves anymore. We're now gonna pay you. But then as days go by, the plantation owner manipulates things, so they're basically still slaves. They just don't realize it anymore. I think that's that's the gist of it. Familiar. Yeah. Are we living that right now?  

[01:32:02] Unknown:

I think we might be.  

[01:32:04] Unknown:

Could be. Possibly   you. Your stepbrother's references.   It's very important for the ruling class to control the population that individuals know they are being surveilled. In tightly controlled countries like North Korea or the Soviet Republic, surveillance was done by people.   Examples were made and relationships were completely broken down as no one could trust each other. Someone's spouse might be the informer, and therefore, you could not discuss or share any subversive ideas without taking on enormous risk to yourself.   Children were taught in schools to inform on their parents in order to subvert the family.  



[01:32:36] Unknown:

Today Little grosses.  

[01:32:38] Unknown:

Yeah.   There are some of those themes in our communities, but ultimately, the Internet connected device is the informer.   Having the possibility to constantly listen to us.   Most of us carry them everywhere we go, and the threat of someone listening has a major influence over people in what they do and say. Just knowing in the back of your head that your FBI agent is watching casts a dark shadow over society.   Eliminating privacy is one of the biggest attacks on the individual, and is all done under the belief that the individual is a criminal that needs to be controlled. K y c and AML laws start from the premise that people are guilty,   have zero rights to self determination,   and therefore are able to be abused.  



[01:33:22] Unknown:

I,   watched that Snowden film again.   Is it last night? No. Night before last with my missus. I know you're probably gonna say, like, he's an agent or he's a you just said this about literally every single person. I wasn't gonna say anything. It was just give you a sip of water. Okay. Watching that back, we were both saying it when it finished. We were like, isn't it creepy   how this was whenever it was 2013   that it all broke or something like that?   That that was the   capability   that they have   then   and that he knew about. There may have been layers above and different layers beyond what he knew. And when you're watching that film I read his book as well, but it kind of it was different with the film because it's kinda like you get a bit more invested in it and the characters. And it's like, if that's what they have then,   what do they have now? And also with, like, the way that people are socially, we were saying, like, they kind of almost don't need to do their job because   everyone's kind of grassing on themselves   in a way.  

Because everyone's on social media.   There's that kind of, like, culture of showing off wealth and, like,   almost like the ideal way to   catch people out. It's like, oh, you're living this lifestyle, but you're saying that you're earning this. Or you've got these views online, and we're tracking you across all your communications   and then tracking that with people that you know, and then we can make assumptions on that. It's kind of, like you said at the beginning of the article, it's like,   1984   is now. Mhmm.   In many ways, it's worse. It's just it's not so bad in the sense that, like, everyone's   working in a shitty factory drinking very, very bad quality gin. Yeah. Yeah. The gin's great here. Everything else is a bit fucked.  



[01:35:11] Unknown:

Right. It it it's a you know, how could Huxley and Orwell   predict it precisely,   but you get the overall themes are here. It's not a cautionary tale yet to come. They're here right now.  

[01:35:22] Unknown:

Hello, FBI agent.  

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That's what's next up here in the article. And if you go on Ungovitable Misfits, you can see this meme, but I'll describe it to you. It's somebody searching the Internet googling   ungovernable   misfits.   Their FBI agents agent says, oh, another group we can infiltrate and co opt. Wait. They're focusing on empowering the individual   like a dough  

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kind of deal.   How do you coop this group? How do you coop the mesh to Dell? How do you coop Ungovertible Misfits? You don't coop it. You if it was me, if I was like a little FBI   Mhmm. Fuck. I would go in there,   and   I would start creating   rifts,   posting pointless   shit that's not relevant to empowering the individual   to try and drown out the signal   and create mistrust within the group   to dissipate all the good that could come out of it. That's how I would do it. But if you were to do that FBI agent and you are listening, what you don't understand is there are groups and subgroups   that run off the side of the mesh to Dell where there are certain different levels of trust.  

And to work your way through those ladders would be very, very time intensive   and extremely difficult.  

[01:36:42] Unknown:

Your payoff would not be that great compared to the amount of energy you'd have to put in, so I wouldn't advise it. It's difficult for us enough to herd cats and getting people to get on a phone call once a month. You think you're gonna call off the group?   Yeah. I'm not I'm not incur I'm not encouraging them to try. Yeah. You're saying that. The mental community is is, you know, as you said, Max, is very, very, very layered.   Yes. Charles goes on the article to say, mass surveillance is primarily a conditioning tool, more so than just a collection of data to control tool. When people know they are being watched, they behave differently. It stifles creativity and creates an attitude of compliance and conformity.   If you knew that a law would not or could not be enforced, you would likely not follow it. But if you believed someone was watching you and could arbitrarily enforce it, most people would follow it, even if they disagreed with it. What needs to be understood is the sinister nature which is the ruling class's need to break down individuals,   families, and community structures that promote the individual. We need to understand that there are people intentionally trying to hurt us in order to control us. I could go on for a while discussing the nature of this, but the point of this article is not to black pill the reader.  

Well, I guess it depends on depends on the reader. I don't think you're gonna black pill the ungovernable misfits crew, but   some normie if you're stumbling across the ungovernable misfits universe, this might black pill you a little bit and perhaps you need that. There is damage being done to us every day. The covid-nineteen   lockdowns are something that almost all individuals around the world experienced to some degree And yet, there is very little discussion on how to recover from it. In many ways, this was a turning point where surveillance, government power to abuse the individual, and propaganda   accelerated.  

At the same time, it was a catalyst for many individuals to realize the importance of personal responsibility   and how deranged the people who are supposed to be the experts are.   Unfortunately, things are much worse than what I listed above. But now, I want to talk about why any of this is important.   As a side, Max, I have had conversations with Charles Muriel about   his covid-nineteen   lockdown experience. And it like fundamentally changed his view on the world. And I found that surprising. And I thought, well, geez, how remiss I am   in connecting with with people of different generations than myself.  

Because I only saw it through the lens of   my family   which consists of me, Sarah, and the kids.   And of course, the kids and Sarah experienced something completely different than I did. It was much more difficult on them than it was for me. For me, COVID 19 lockdowns were great. I got to take my bucket truck home, walked in at, you know, at that time. So I got more time in the mornings. Sarah and I were going on walks. It was great for the kids. It it sucked.   Looking back, I don't I don't think it was terribly bad for them because at least they got to be home. And once, you know, the homeschool stuff was over, they had a great life playing in the yard, and and I've talked about this on the show many times. Playing in the yard, playing on streets, playing, you know, out on a basketball hoop, riding bicycles. The neighborhood was alive during COVID 19 times. This was a bang in neighborhood with kids everywhere going COVID 19. So I saw it as a great value. And, you know, in a sense, I I there's so many teachable moments that I continually get to use with my kids.   See, this is what all powerful totalitarianism   looks like. This is what a technocracy   looks like. This is what trust the experts look like or trust in institutions.  

If you trust the institutions too much, this is what you could experience.  

[01:40:21] Unknown:

But the black pill that Marielle got, I I didn't see that, and I'm glad he shares this kind of material with us. Similar with me. I was already kind of well, I already was blackpilled, but COVID 19 was not a fun experience for me at all. I wasn't in proper work, so I had no income.   I didn't get any   government   handouty help because I just try not to touch or go near them at any point because   every time I ever have at any point, they fucked me.   So I had no income.   I was arguing with people,   fucking nonstop.   Got on top of me because I was trying to   explain   what I thought was happening to everyone I cared about. Mhmm. Pretty much no one shared the same views.  

I get extremely frustrated by little certain things, like, really get under my skin and the clapping.   Like, when people would go out, we had this in England. Like, everyone would go out.   Oh, mate. Fuck me. The NHS. Like, people would go out at a certain time,   stand on their doorstep Yeah. And, like, wave stupid little flags and clap.   Honestly, like, the rage that built inside of me,   knowing   what I thought I knew and now realize, yes, I was right about these things. Yeah. The rage that was building inside of me was just   horrible, and there was no, like, real outlet for it. I don't think I was alone in that where it's like,   yeah, you were black pills. You kinda know everything's fucked up. But, like, it was the first time that I really saw   quite   how sadistic   and incompetent   Oh, wow. Everyone could be. And I was just like, maybe we are fucked. And me and the missus were looking at like, okay. We might have to leave now because they were very close to the forced vaccinations and all that kind of stuff. So it was like it was pretty traumatic. It was like, we've got no money. We've got no income. We can't trust anyone. Everyone is attacking my ideas. I can't go anywhere,   and now we might have to leave because   we don't have sovereignty over our bodies. Like, it was it was a fucking dark  

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shit time. I'm with you, Charles. Well, Charles doesn't want us all to be black filled. He goes on the article to say,   knowing how good they can be. And I hope I'm reading this right. Nope. I'm not reading it right.   Good, the bad guys can be, I think.   Let's read on and we'll find out. I want to present to you the reality in which you wake up in the morning with a sense of purpose and meaning. You are surround oh, maybe it is. That's positive. The only way is up.   You are surrounded by friends who care deeply about you and want to see you successful.   Instead of feeling a sense of instability, you are secure in who you are because your financial circumstances are stable, but also because you know that if anything happens, people will take care of you. Instead of being blackpilled, walking around hypervigilant   because the people around you are threats, you have a positive outlook on the world in the future. You believe that you can have kids and their future will be better than yours.  

Uh-oh. Let me know. One of the challenges which makes healing from the social trauma that we are subjected to is that it is a community based activity   requiring trust in other people. Trauma is being weaponized in an attempt to separate us from each other. We cannot heal on our own.   No matter how much you read or try to work on yourself, unless you can be vulnerable with another person in a community setting, there will not be much meaningful progress.   Charles Muriel has has experience in this professionally.   I   I'm not a   trust the experts. Charles Muriel is an expert,   but he he does have experience   in helping people   deal with trauma. He goes on and says, we are social creatures, and secrets eat at us and destroy us. Unless you can share who you are with people around you fully, without self censoring or hiding parts of yourself, you cannot truly be free. This does not necessarily mean broadcasting every bit about yourself to everyone around you. Like it does mean   No need to know about Parmesan feet. But it does mean having at least some individuals in your life that you can share the deepest parts about yourself with. The reality is that unless you truly show yourself to another person, you will never experience true love.  

We are conditioned to wear disguises in order to get recognition from the people around us. And doing this long enough will cause us to forget who we truly are. If people applaud our disguises while it may feel gratifying in the moment,   damage is being done because at our core, we know that they are not applauding who we truly are. Thoughts like, if they only knew who I truly am, they would find me disgusting, may go through our heads, especially Max's.   Living with that Living with that type of shame will ultimately create dysfunction in our lives and relationships.   Think we nailed it Max, we figured you out.  

We need community to heal because people are mirrors. Some people are better mirrors than others.   Someone who has a good sense of who they are and has a good self awareness can be an excellent mirror.   Most of us carry deep burdens of shame of the things that we have done or were done to us. We see these as disqualifiers   of real authentic relationships.   So when we refuse to allow people in and hide things, people will mirror back a distorted image of who we are. It is not until you find someone who is safe and share with them everything that real healing can begin.   We need others to do this for us because we cannot ourselves see an accurate image of ourselves on our own. The things that we are embarrassed by, in the right setting, with the right person, can be qualifiers of real relationships.  

Our pain is the thing that can allow us to have empathy and relate to each other. The shame can be a bridge to real authentic connection instead of a disqualifier.   But vulnerability is risky. We hide things from others because oftentimes they are our deepest wounds that in telling another person could be used to inflict more damage.   If we tell someone something painful,   and then they break our trust by telling others or ridiculing us, we can be a lot worse off the more rumors started.   This is the fear that plays through our heads preventing us from achieving meaningful connection with one another.   That is why it is vital to be able to identify who is safe. If we have experienced abuse, and I would argue we all have living in an extremely sick society,   our ideas on safe individuals can be and will be completely warped   mostly because we were never taught the meaning of this.  

Building trust with others takes time,   and trial,   and error.   Here are a series of strategies I would suggest for identifying safe people.   Look for people who are comfortable with themselves.   Look for people who have gone through healing themselves.   Look for people who have healthy relationships.   Look for people who are secure   with who they are.   And   look for individuals who are not concerned with conformity.  

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Could list that.  

[01:47:27] Unknown:

I see those characteristics   in a lot of   the people that I've surrounded myself with over the past few years being so deeply involved in in this pleb community.   We seek each other out.  

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Especially that conformity part because the conformity   it's not like   people who just don't conform with what regular people conform with.   Because even if you get into the   Bitcoin world,   generally, the people who are in the Maestro Dalinar groups don't conform necessarily within those Bitcoin   Yep. What would you say like?   Parameters?   Yeah. They might have a different view on a lot of things   Mhmm. Than most, like, Bitcoin maxi types.   Yeah. And they're prepared to defend their position on certain things   without, like, worrying about, oh, I'm not gonna be accepted and be like, cool. Mhmm. That's definitely something that I've seen with, like, the people that I get closest to generally. Like, I don't always agree with them either. It's just like I like that they don't care that I don't agree with them, and I don't care that  

[01:48:32] Unknown:

we don't agree on that because most other things we're cool with. It's a big one. That's the power of the mesh to del because it is a collection of people that started off in this   standard journey within Bitcoin.   I question things. I question authority. I question our monetary system.   Came in for a number go up and stayed for the Number go down. You know?   And once people are in Bitcoin for a while and and extend beyond the memes and Twitter and and watching the charts,   a couple get plucked off into the ungovernable misfits community.   We always say the same things, like, when we have meetings with our advertisers, like, yeah, we don't quite   have what Bitcoin did, simply Bitcoin numbers.  

But   everybody that listens to Ungovernable Misfits   is high value,   thoughtful,   dedicated  

[01:49:27] Unknown:

to the cause kind of folks. Not everyone. We have some right guns, sweetheart.   I'd list them off, but,   I won't do that to you, Bon.  

[01:49:39] Unknown:

Moving on, Charles writes, this is a topic I will look to expand on in the future and likely could be a best selling book if I put my mind to it. I agree, Charles.   I I very much agree. Please continue with your other book writing,   ventures. Yes. I really value you in that, and I know you can do it.   The world needs safe individuals because the world desperately needs healing.   One of the reasons I choose to write for Ungovernable Misfits is because I have grown to trust John and Max. I believe that their intentions are to truly be helpful and to empower the individual.   I have tested them by sharing bits and pieces about myself   and have not been betrayed.  

They have also reciprocated by sharing things with me about themselves that allow me to trust them.   Vulnerability   and connection is a two way street that requires both parties to cooperate.   The problem with many professional clinical settings   is that there is an inherent power dynamic   which makes trust difficult.   The layman will always be the best equipped because when we interact with peers instead of an authority figure, there are not power dynamics.   That is not to say that professional clinicians should be avoided, but the human spirit is healed when it is seen and known.   Therapists are only an imitation of the healing nature of a real relationship with another human being, and as a result are limited.  

They can be a helpful starting point for teaching you how to relate with another person, but cannot be the end all be all.   I believe that there is a future in which individuals can share truthfully with each other, and strive to make a healthy society.   Even as the world around us becomes crazier and more detached from reality, we can form communities of individuals built on trust and cooperation with each other.  

[01:51:23] Unknown:

Said it before, but he's a very good writer.   I feel like I'm on this journey with him. It's it's really nicely written.  

[01:51:30] Unknown:

Yeah.   I can say this this previous section   that we just read, I experienced that with Charles Muriel.   He flushed out all of these ideas   to me. I'm like, wow. That really happened with us. And to finish off the article   with drop your burden.   Yes. The world is fucked up. And it is important to know to some extent how fucked up it is. This is incredibly important context because unless you can identify what is wrong, there is no way to identify what is healthy and good.   Normalizing the unhelpful themes in our cultures will only perpetuate them. But identifying them, grieving them, and striving for healthy alternatives is the path forward.   When the foundation on a house is crumbling, the answer is not to build a shiny facade.  

It is to fix the foundation,   and then build back on top of it. If you have lived your whole life with dysfunction   as a result of shame and pain, doing something like this can and will feel earth shattering.   Many people do not have the courage to go through the process of healing until things get so uncomfortable   that change is the only option, and the dysfunction becomes un ignorable.   I believe we are in a place as a society right now as the fiat monetary system is breaking, individuals who have tried to believe that what we are experiencing is normal and good are being faced with the reality that the people they put their trust in are not the good guys.   They're coming to realize that the institutions and causes they supported   did not have their best interests in mind,   and that there is a coordinated effort to make them sick.  

I believe that the answer is not to build guillotines and perpetuate the anger, but is to empower the individual so that the people who have attempted to abuse and control us are not given the power to repeat what has happened again.   Yes, we have to defend ourselves at times,   but this is not a kinetic battle.   It is a deeply spiritual one. The decisions we make have massive impacts, and the commitment to heal will have positive repercussions throughout the whole universe.   We don't need to run around blackfilling people. Well, okay.   People will find out how bad things are one way or another without our help. That's true, sir.  

We can name things for context, but the context is only necessarily   for explaining what is possible.   Having real connections with other people and seeking to build each other up and inspire each other is how we make meaningful progress.   This does not require the cooperation of the rest of society.   We don't need everyone to be safe and go through the process of healing in order to make meaningful progress for ourselves and families.   The people who are willing to will be examples for others. The most effective sales pitch is to actually live out what you are trying to sell to others and being the change you want to be in the world.   If you want to find people who are trustworthy, first you have to be someone that is trustworthy.  

Instead of lashing out when you feel hurt, sit with the pain.   Identify and name it and observe it. Why are you feeling hurt or scared? Now, how can you deal with it in a productive manner instead of separating yourself from the people around you?   Share what you are experienced with someone you trust. If you believe that someone actually cares about you, explain how something may have been hurtful   instead of trying to hurt them back.   Resentment and revenge are not productive activities and will ultimately   hurt you more than you could hope to hurt others.  

Any pain that is assigned meaning and purpose is not just endurable, but could bring you a new sense of purpose and meaning.   Depression that seems to have no meaning will be consuming and destructive to the human spirit. That is why the victim mentality is so dangerous.   When you can see that your pain can actually be a bridge instead of a barrier, it will completely change your life for the better.   The revolution is not ideological.   It is not about converting people to a certain way, talk a certain way, or even think a certain way. It is about lifting each other up and connecting with each other.   When people have self confidence and value themselves, they will also value each other.  

Likely, we'll come to the conclusions that many of us believe about freedom.   The belief is the necessity of the ruling class to dictate what is allowed, and coerce you if you break arbitrary rules   is a belief stemming from low self esteem.   The belief that individuals have agency,   are not dumb, and are responsible for themselves   is one of empowerment.   I hope you experience the freedom that results from deep meaningful connection with others to allow someone to love you all.   I hope you experience the freedom that results from deep meaningful connection with others To allow someone to love all of you, not just the parts you curate out of self defense.   Until you reveal all about yourself, you will not be able to truly experience love.  

The freedom that will be experienced as a result of this is earth shattering.   It has the ability to heal even the most jaded and demoralized spirit.   It has the power to change the world.   I think that was one of the most emotionally impactful pieces that we've ever had on on Goverdable Misfits.   So much truth in that one. I told you about the conversation that we had, and a lot of this is mirrored in this piece here. And I said that I you know, for an hour after our conversation, I I'd really reflected on on myself   and on Charles Mariel and and our relationship and the things he said   and try to bring it in perspective. And then reading this again, and I didn't know he was gonna put, like, the personal stuff with John and Max and and the whole time I'm reading it, think about our relationship   and the relationships   we have in the mesh to Dell. Man, this this one really this one really hits.  



[01:57:14] Unknown:

Yeah. Incredible work.   Go back and listen a couple of times.   I will be. Well, I'll be editing it, so I'll be listening to it many, many times. But yeah, incredible   work, Charles, as always,   and,  

[01:57:28] Unknown:

appreciate you. I appreciate Charles Marielle. I appreciate SolEx   and his writing about Lake Satoshi.   I appreciate   you, Max, and I appreciate all the ungovernable misfits in our sphere. Thanks for listening.   Well, I didn't know that that piece was going to be so emotionally impactful. I know. Really deep.  

[01:57:51] Unknown:

I almost wanna go and train again now because I just wanna get the rest of the demons out. I'm so, like, empowered by it.  

[01:57:58] Unknown:

I was thinking I I would just like to meet up with Drognarelli and give him a hug.   Oh,  

[01:58:03] Unknown:

that'd be lovely. Maybe Bubba can be in there as well. Just have, like, a  

[01:59:01] Unknown:

be wrong.   I could be right.   I could be wrong.   They put a hot wire to my