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Cole discusses his experience shaking hands with Paul Saladino who promotes organ meat and the Raw Farm Family who produces Raw Dairy in California. Food Intelligence.

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E E E E R200:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,800Phenomenal300:00:22,160 --> 00:00:28,480What competence America plus, I'm your host Cole McCormick it's another week another episode what's going on400:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,480What's up? How ya doin'?500:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,480Welcome to the show. It's July 9th, 316, in the PM.600:00:36,480 --> 00:00:40,480I am recording this on the road. It is. I'm in Arizona right now, folks.700:00:40,480 --> 00:00:45,480I am in the old AZ What Up Family!800:00:45,480 --> 00:00:49,480It's my dad's B Day. My dad's my father's birthday.900:00:49,480 --> 00:00:54,480I think he's 48 today, man. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Officially he's 48 tomorrow, July 10th.1000:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,480But we had the birthday party last night. We partied. We had some people over.1100:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,480And people didn't leave until like 2am. So that was lit.1200:01:03,480 --> 00:01:09,480It was lit, people. So I got the...I got the Rodecaster Pro on the road right now.1300:01:09,480 --> 00:01:15,480And I am currently sitting in my mother's office on the pullout couch in front of my computer1400:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,480talking into a microphone to you. Super happy to be here. It's been a good week.1500:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,480It was a good week at work. Nothing to complain about managers or anything like that.1600:01:24,480 --> 00:01:31,480I got the appropriate amount of days off. So I'm just...I'm glad I'm with my family, ultimately, man.1700:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,480Like, what you heard earlier, the opener was me and Wyatt, me and my nephew.1800:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,480He's five years old, Wyatt. He was just messing around with the soundboard.1900:01:39,480 --> 00:01:46,480And we got a little song going on, man. I love capturing these, like, just small moments with him.2000:01:46,480 --> 00:01:53,480I always try to record like a few minutes with him all the time whenever I'm with him, just to see like the growth of it.2100:01:53,480 --> 00:02:01,480And I think...this is like a 20-year thing, you know? This is like that movie...what was that movie?2200:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,480Boyhood. That movie Boyhood that came out in 2014, directed by Richard Linklater.2300:02:06,480 --> 00:02:14,480He...what was that movie? That movie took like 14 years to make, I think.2400:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,480That movie took...was it 14 years or 12 years? Something like that.2500:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,480Like, they...this movie filmed chunks of this boy's life, right?2600:02:24,480 --> 00:02:36,480Like, Richard Linklater wrote the script, and then every aspect, like almost every act of the script took place during a different age for the boy.2700:02:36,480 --> 00:02:42,480And so all they did was just waited for the boy to age that age. And then they filmed it.2800:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,480And then in the movie, you have this incredible growth. You see this little boy grow.2900:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,480And I've been obsessed with that since I saw that. I've been obsessed with that type of a concept.3000:02:52,480 --> 00:02:57,480Just like a long-term growth thing. Like, that's like interesting, right? That's funny.3100:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,480I'm right now just seeing the parallel with America Plus, trying to see this long-term growth.3200:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,480But I'm in love with just listening to my nephew grow up.3300:03:07,480 --> 00:03:13,480And I want to make a giant-ass podcast about that. It's gonna be cool, man.3400:03:13,480 --> 00:03:20,480But that's like 15 years from now, you know? Maybe shorter, maybe longer. We'll see. I don't know.3500:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,480But I want to try to do that with all my family. Just try to record little snippets with everyone.3600:03:24,480 --> 00:03:31,480You know, something so romantic about that. Not in a secretly recording creepy way, but just in like a...3700:03:31,480 --> 00:03:37,480Like, let me just... Can I just hit record and just capture this moment? Can we just be a family?3800:03:37,480 --> 00:03:42,480I want to hold this memory in. That's not a photo. It's not a video.3900:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,480Just let the microphone catch whatever it catches.4000:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,480That's like one of the beauties of podcasting. You can really just...4100:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,480Podcasts just let you flow, man. They just let the audio flow, dude.4200:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,480It's the biggest deal. This week... Another good thing why this week was awesome is that4300:03:59,480 --> 00:04:07,480it is the 20th anniversary of podcasting, people. 20th anniversary of podcasting.4400:04:07,480 --> 00:04:13,480Yo, dude. 20 years ago today. 20 years ago today.4500:04:13,480 --> 00:04:19,480Fountain tweeted this. The first podcast was enclosed in an RSS feed.4600:04:19,480 --> 00:04:27,480Thank you, Adam Curry. Thank you, Dave Weiner. Thank you to these old white men.4700:04:27,480 --> 00:04:35,480They did something incredible for us. They... Adam Curry. Just shout out to Adam Curry, bro.4800:04:35,480 --> 00:04:43,480You made podcasting. I'm a podcaster. That was 20 years ago. 20 years ago, I was 3 years old.4900:04:43,480 --> 00:04:49,480No, I'm sorry. 6 years old. 20 years ago, I was 6 years old.5000:04:49,480 --> 00:04:55,480And you did the first podcast. That's wild, dude. Just thank you for podcasting.5100:04:55,480 --> 00:05:01,480I'm thankful that I am trying to do my best in this new medium, this new art form.5200:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,480This is... I am in my mother's office recording, speaking directly to you.5300:05:06,480 --> 00:05:13,480This is decentralized media, man. What up? This is America Plus, yo.5400:05:13,480 --> 00:05:20,480This is so real. 20 years. Where were you 20 years ago? Were you innovating?5500:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,480Were you doing anything important? Were you jerking off? What were you doing 20 years ago, dude?5600:05:25,480 --> 00:05:31,480Honestly, you really gotta think about that. Adam Curry is able to say he invented podcasting.5700:05:31,480 --> 00:05:37,480I really take a lot of inspiration from that because when I'm in my 50s, when I'm in my 60s,5800:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,480I wanna be able to look back and say, yeah, I did that shit. I did something interesting.5900:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,480I did something cool. And I'm trying to be better at it.6000:05:46,480 --> 00:05:54,480That's the best example Adam Curry has for me as my podcasting mentor from afar, my unofficial mentor.6100:05:54,480 --> 00:06:01,480I'm just trying to take as much wisdom I can from the man. I hope he's podcasting for the rest of his life,6200:06:01,480 --> 00:06:07,480but you really never know how long a person is gonna be around. You never know how long the show will be around.6300:06:07,480 --> 00:06:14,480And I'm just sort of in that mood right now. I am constantly trying to listen to the man.6400:06:14,480 --> 00:06:20,480I'm constantly trying to listen to more information, more podcasts. What's a good podcast? What's a bad podcast?6500:06:20,480 --> 00:06:27,480What is a podcast? There's so many definitions. There's so many different opinions on these things.6600:06:27,480 --> 00:06:34,480And I'm taking pride in just having fun with it. I'm taking solace in being in the middle of all of it.6700:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,480Because that's really just, from my perspective, that's what it's all about. Just enjoy being in the middle of everything.6800:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,480I've always found myself in the middle of so many different situations.6900:06:44,480 --> 00:06:50,480When I was in high school, I was in the middle of football, church, and school.7000:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,480I had to balance these three really different things.7100:06:53,480 --> 00:07:03,480If you're going through a difficult time in your life, you might need to deal with someone being sick while having a promotion.7200:07:03,480 --> 00:07:11,480So many times in life, there's these extremes happening at the same time.7300:07:11,480 --> 00:07:19,480And that's just the reality of life. It is a permanent reality of life.7400:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,480You're going to be in the middle of everything all the time, all at once.7500:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,480And it's never going to be the best time for something to go down.7600:07:27,480 --> 00:07:36,480It's never ideal if something negative happens. And you never really know when the positive thing will happen.7700:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,480It's like two sides of the coin there.7800:07:39,480 --> 00:07:45,480But you've got to be in the middle. You've got to just enjoy the dance, enjoy the flippening, the flip.7900:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,480Enjoy the flip of the coin.8000:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,480But thank you to Adam Crowe for making podcasting. That's insane. That's nuts.8100:07:53,480 --> 00:08:00,480July 9th, 2003. July 9th, 2003, dog. That's crazy.8200:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,480Just shout out to you.8300:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,480Now we've got podcasting with Bitcoin.8400:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,480This week, what I want to talk about, the narrative of the week.8500:08:08,480 --> 00:08:14,480I had a good week because I met Paul Saladino, bro.8600:08:14,480 --> 00:08:20,480I had a real beef initiative situation before I came to Arizona.8700:08:20,480 --> 00:08:26,480I had a meat and sip. I went to a meat and sip at Erwan, Venice.8800:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,480Erwan in Venice, California.8900:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,480So first of all, what's going on?9000:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,480I follow these animal-based diets, right? I follow this guy named Paul Saladino.9100:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,480He came onto the scene during the early days of COVID.9200:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,480And he was known as the carnivore MD.9300:08:43,480 --> 00:08:48,480He was on Joe Rogan as that. He mainly discussed carnivore diet.9400:08:48,480 --> 00:08:57,480And as years went by, the last three years, he has evolved his position to be animal-based.9500:08:57,480 --> 00:09:06,480And so what that is, it's all animal meat, mostly beef and organ meat, along with fruits, like all fruits.9600:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,480You can have raw honey, and you can have raw dairy, and you can have maple syrup.9700:09:11,480 --> 00:09:17,480So there's a lot more flexibility within the animal-based diet, which I've really clung onto.9800:09:17,480 --> 00:09:24,480I've really gravitated towards. I tried doing mostly carnivore, but within this middle of the year,9900:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,480I'm trying to add in more fruits. I want to add in more variety of fruits.10000:09:28,480 --> 00:09:34,480I'm a man who can just eat blueberries every single night for dessert and not care.10100:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,480So I've got to expand my horizon, you know?10200:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,480And I've always enjoyed Paul Saladino's content. He makes his fun reels.10300:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,480He has this whole, like, Kayla's Bullshit t-shirt line. That's just super funny.10400:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,480And he seemed like an honest guy, you know? He did have some sort of stint.10500:09:51,480 --> 00:09:58,480He had some sort of business with the liver king that came out to be like, the liver king's fraudulent.10600:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,480Like, he's not all raw liver, you know? He's a little bit of steroids.10700:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,480And that sort of hurt Paul Saladino for a minute, but not in terms of reputation, just in terms of, like,10800:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,480oh damn, like that, like, you were involved with that, you know? From my perspective, he's only elevated.10900:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,480Like, he's really only elevated after that.11000:10:17,480 --> 00:10:25,480And he was at Erwan, dude. He made this, he did this collaboration with Erwan,11100:10:25,480 --> 00:10:31,480which is a super-duper, extremely bougie grocery store in California.11200:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,480Maybe it's other places, but it's mainly in LA.11300:10:35,480 --> 00:10:41,480And when I say bougie, I mean, okay, so first of all, to give a quick reference,11400:10:41,480 --> 00:10:47,480when I buy a gallon of raw milk, okay, a gallon of raw milk where I live,11500:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,480first of all, it's only available at the Sprouts Market, at the Sprouts Marketplace.11600:10:52,480 --> 00:10:58,480It is $16 a gallon, okay? $16 a gallon.11700:10:58,480 --> 00:11:06,480I go to Erwan, in Venice, any Erwan, that same gallon, which was already expensive as shit,11800:11:06,480 --> 00:11:12,480it is now $20 at Erwan. Can you believe that?11900:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,480So that's what I mean by bougie. It's more expensive prices just for the hell of it.12000:11:17,480 --> 00:11:22,480And Paul Saladino, but this is where, like, the healthiest people are, right?12100:11:22,480 --> 00:11:29,480Usually, like, it's Venice, it's Calabasas, it's these, like, beach areas, you know?12200:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,480That are usually health-conscious communities.12300:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,480Paul Saladino has these organ supplements, and he did a collaboration with Erwan12400:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,480to put his organ supplements into a smoothie.12500:11:42,480 --> 00:11:50,480The smoothie was also using Raw Farms Kiefer, which is a local dairy farm in California.12600:11:50,480 --> 00:11:56,480It's been around since 1998. There is this insane collaboration between these two things12700:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,480that I've been following deeply. You know, if you've been following the podcast,12800:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,480I've been, my whole experience with raw dairy has been nuts.12900:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,480I've gained 10 pounds of muscle since I started to consume it.13000:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,480I didn't really change my workouts too much.13100:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,480Just, I changed the type of dairy I was eating, and I gained muscle, dude.13200:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,480Like, that's crazy. And then I had a stint with the organ supplements,13300:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,480and I felt amazing. I was getting horny. So horny. Every single morning from these,13400:12:21,480 --> 00:12:27,480I was eating these liver, and then I had testicles, and then blood extract, dude.13500:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,480If you want to have a morning wood, get the whole package from Heart and Soil Supplements.13600:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,480That's Paul Saladino's company. Like, I'm telling you, like, this is nuts.13700:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,480Those weren't in the smoothie. The testicle wasn't in the smoothie.13800:12:39,480 --> 00:12:45,480He had normal beef organs. The normal beef organs, it's like a, just a smorgasbord.13900:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,480You're getting a little bit of liver, a little bit of kidney, a little bit of spleen,14000:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,480a little bit of heart. So there's the beef organs in there,14100:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,480and then there's something called immunomilk, which is colostrum,14200:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,480which I believe is breast milk from an animal, breast milk from a cow.14300:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,480So hopefully baby cows weren't harmed in the collection of that,14400:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,480but what I'm saying is it's healthy for you, okay? It's healthy for you.14500:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,480I have total belief, I have total faith that he treats animals well,14600:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,480but I met Paul Saladino. I shook the man's hand.14700:13:18,480 --> 00:13:25,480The entire, like, philosophy with the beef initiative is to shake your rancher's hand,14800:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,480to shake the hand of the person who's bringing you nutrients,14900:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,480and I got to do that with him, and I did that with the raw farm family.15000:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,480I got to meet Kaylee. I spoke with Kaylee, and I believe her husband,15100:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,480I think it was her husband, and I shook his hand.15200:13:42,480 --> 00:13:47,480I really said, your farm changed my life. I really said that.15300:13:47,480 --> 00:13:55,480I really said that. It feels a little corny to say, like, out loud,15400:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,480but like, it's true, man. Like, that dairy farm changed my life.15500:13:59,480 --> 00:14:07,480This carnivore-esque animal-based diet has changed my life for the better,15600:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,480and I believe I'll be eating animal-based for, like, all of my life.15700:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,480I don't understand why I would prioritize vegetables for any reason.15800:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,480Why would I prioritize plants when I have everything I need within this meat,15900:14:18,480 --> 00:14:24,480and I literally have, I truly have more energy when I have the organ meats.16000:14:24,480 --> 00:14:30,480If you were to seek out a more of a nose-to-tail diet, you know,16100:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,480as in, like, you try to eat everything that involves the animal,16200:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,480I think you would, you might have better energy.16300:14:37,480 --> 00:14:42,480You might have a better mood, you know, you might feel more nourished.16400:14:42,480 --> 00:14:47,480I believe that, and that's just a matter of experimentation on your part,16500:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,480but I met these people. I shook these people's hands.16600:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,480I smiled with them. I told them my story,16700:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,480and I was able to connect with them one-on-one as a human being,16800:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,480and that is some real shit, folks.16900:15:00,480 --> 00:15:07,480That is some real America-plus shit that I am encouraging you to do as well.17000:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,480You, if you are listening to this, if you're on Fountain,17100:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,480if you use Bitcoin, if you are, if you consider yourself a good Christian,17200:15:14,480 --> 00:15:20,480if you want to be a good human being on Earth, then, and if you eat meat,17300:15:20,480 --> 00:15:25,480if you consume dairy, you need to make an active effort17400:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,480to try to just have a more personal connection with it.17500:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,480And it doesn't have to be what I did, you know, like, it's anything, you know,17600:15:32,480 --> 00:15:37,480just, how about you just try to strike up a conversation with the butcher17700:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,480at whatever grocery store you already go to, you know?17800:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,480Like, it's something like that.17900:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,480This deeper personal connection with the people who bring us food,18000:15:48,480 --> 00:15:54,480it's absolutely necessary, because that's a part of the feedback loop18100:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,480of the food cycle, you know?18200:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,480There's no real science on that, right?18300:16:01,480 --> 00:16:06,480But whenever you do any research on some sort of tribe,18400:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,480and they're like hunting for animals, you know, like,18500:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,480it's always a very social thing.18600:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,480You're getting a lot of different dynamics within the hunting space,18700:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,480and whether you're looking at an indigenous tribe,18800:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,480or you're reading about history,18900:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,480or you're just listening to a Joe Rogan podcast about hunting,19000:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,480you know, there's always some spiritual, social, like,19100:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,480inner human personal connection and experience19200:16:34,480 --> 00:16:40,480when it comes to getting the meat, when it comes to getting the food.19300:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,480And I love that, like, I love that concept.19400:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,480I must be involved with that.19500:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,480Like, I need to do more of that.19600:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,480And this happened on Friday.19700:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,480Friday the 7th, I was really just, I was blown away.19800:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,480I was so giddy. I was so excited.19900:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,480You should have seen me in the shower.20000:16:57,480 --> 00:17:03,480I was just like, like, I'm going to meet these people.20100:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,480I was like rehearsing my questions. I was nervous.20200:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,480I was like, am I going to tell them this?20300:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,480What am I going to tell them this? Am I going to try to make a joke?20400:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,480I don't know what to do, man.20500:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,480And then I get there, and it's a whole swarm of people around them20600:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,480taking photos. Like, these people are celebrities.20700:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,480These people are celebrities.20800:17:23,480 --> 00:17:29,480These people milk cows and freeze dry organs.20900:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,480Like, these people are celebrities. It's incredible.21000:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,480And we're taking photos, and we're talking, and there was life in there.21100:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,480There was life in there.21200:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,480And at the end of the day, Paul said, no, not Paul.21300:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,480It was Kaylee from Raw Farm.21400:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,480She was talking about how the Irwan manager, the Irwan staff was saying21500:17:49,480 --> 00:17:54,480that they hadn't felt that type of energy in such a long time.21600:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,480The Irwan folks, they didn't know what was going on.21700:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,480Like, they hadn't felt that happy in a long time.21800:17:59,480 --> 00:18:05,480Everyone there was so excited to get this smoothie, this animal-based smoothie.21900:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,480I should probably list the ingredients.22000:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,480So it was Raw Farm's kefir, which is a cousin to milk.22100:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,480It's very delicious. You can make it yourself if you have raw milk.22200:18:14,480 --> 00:18:20,480And then along with that, it was a mixture of the beef organs and the immuno milk.22300:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,480And then it was blueberries. It was banana. It was maple.22400:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,480It was...you're looking at the photo right now.22500:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,480Maybe I should just pull it up right now, too.22600:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,480I'm missing, like, three more ingredients.22700:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,480This thing was tasty. Like, tasty.22800:18:34,480 --> 00:18:41,480At first, listen, at first glance you might think that the organs in the smoothie might be gross.22900:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,480But no, dude. There was coconut cream in it, which is made...23000:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,480Like, this cream was made at Irwan, which is even better, which is cool.23100:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,480There's something called lacuma.23200:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,480Lacuma? I've never heard of that. I've got to Google that.23300:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,480And then some honey.23400:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,480Like, can you imagine just having...23500:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,480Like, forget the beef organs.23600:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,480Can you imagine yourself having a smoothie like that?23700:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,480Maybe a little bit of protein powder?23800:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,480Like, that is a healthy thing.23900:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,480Like, the raw dairy is healthy.24000:19:08,480 --> 00:19:13,480These foods blended together in my belly is healthy.24100:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,480And then to add in the organ subs, those are...24200:19:17,480 --> 00:19:22,480Those give you absolute nutritional value.24300:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,480Like, it's insane.24400:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,480Like, there's so much innovation happening with that.24500:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,480It feels silly to say that there's innovation within this smoothie.24600:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,480But there is.24700:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,480Hey, little Wyatt, what's up? I'm recording right now, bud.24800:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,480Uh...24900:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,480Can you give me a few more minutes, dude?25000:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,480Okay, thank you so much, man. I'm still talking.25100:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,480I'm talking about smoothies. I'm talking about milk.25200:19:47,480 --> 00:19:58,480Okay. I'll see you later. I'll tell you when I'm done, okay?25300:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,480Okay. I'm just trying to get your voice. Okay.25400:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,480That's Wyatt. Oh my god, he's so cute.25500:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,480But I'm telling you, man, this smoothie is healthy.25600:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,480You can have a raw dairy smoothie, and it's like, it's good for your gut.25700:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,480It will help you digest. It will help you gain muscle.25800:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,480It will help you lose fat.25900:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,480It's a good experience, you know? I'm just speaking from my own experience.26000:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,480Shannon liked hers. My girl liked hers.26100:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,480She didn't have the whole thing, so I had like, pretty much like a 1 and a half,26200:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,480which, and then I felt even more nourished, because I had even more organ meat,26300:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,480which is, it's just funny to say, man.26400:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,480The, what the supplements are, it's freeze dried organs26500:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,480and then it's like a powder in a capsule.26600:20:37,480 --> 00:20:42,480So I think they were just given the powder and they just did like a teaspoon or something like that, whatever.26700:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,480But it's simple, dude. It was super simple.26800:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,180Then I read the ingredients when I was there, I was like, wow, this is...26900:20:49,180 --> 00:20:51,840It's so simple and yet so nutritious.27000:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,560How is this possible?27100:20:53,560 --> 00:21:01,000This is exactly what any of the plant-based people want, any of the lab-grown people want.27200:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,440Don't you want a shake that has everything you need in it?27300:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,780Don't you want to just drink your calories?27400:21:09,780 --> 00:21:15,320Don't you want to just do that?27500:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,840I have nothing else to say about it, honestly.27600:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,160It was just good.27700:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,040It was a good hang.27800:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,480I got to shake these people's hands.27900:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,080I got to have two delicious smoothies that nourish me for the whole day.28000:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,080I felt really good.28100:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,840I'm doing my best to get my family in on these organ subs.28200:21:31,840 --> 00:21:38,400I really believe they'll feel better after they start consuming more of that, just consistently.28300:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,960There's real power in this stuff.28400:21:40,960 --> 00:21:50,460So I'm taking this episode to speak of the philosophy of the beef initiative and to connect28500:21:50,460 --> 00:21:56,360with my fellow humans, to connect with my fellow people who are bringing me nutrients.28600:21:56,360 --> 00:21:57,360It's incredible.28700:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,680Thank you to the raw farm family.28800:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,760I think their name is McAfee.28900:22:02,760 --> 00:22:03,760Thank you to the McAfees.29000:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,760I'm praying for you, praying for your soil, praying for your cows.29100:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,880Thank you, Paul Saladino.29200:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,760I'm praying for you and your sups.29300:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,840I'm praying for your cows in New Zealand.29400:22:13,840 --> 00:22:14,840Praying for everyone, man.29500:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,020It's just a beautiful time to be alive.29600:22:19,020 --> 00:22:25,960One good thing about living in California is I get to have these really interesting29700:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,680health experiences.29800:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,120What other place is there like a cliche health culture?29900:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,720It was really cool to see.30000:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,960There's one guy, this one fitness influencer there, and he had his shirt off.30100:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,960That's his brand.30200:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,680He always has his shirt off, I guess.30300:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,100It was so funny to see these people.30400:22:48,100 --> 00:22:56,520You could totally point out the fitness influencers and the people who are following Paul and30500:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,280just want to be healthy.30600:22:58,280 --> 00:23:03,080Then you could totally identify the people who had no idea what was going on.30700:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,080Those are the girls.30800:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,040They're only women, right?30900:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,720There's a clear difference of the girls who are actually trying to pay attention to what31000:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,800they're eating, and then there are the girls getting the strawberry lemonade, double pump31100:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,480milk, double pump coffee.31200:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,040You know what I mean?31300:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,240That is silly, man.31400:23:21,240 --> 00:23:27,400It's wild to see the dichotomy within these different narratives.31500:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,500People are getting certain drinks to just get a drink, to just have something sweet.31600:23:31,500 --> 00:23:34,320It was a Friday afternoon.31700:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,120People just want their lemonade.31800:23:36,120 --> 00:23:43,360People just want their coffee with double caramel pump.31900:23:43,360 --> 00:23:44,620Some people just want to be healthy.32000:23:44,620 --> 00:23:49,920Some people want to taste something that's delicious, and they want to be healthy with32100:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,920it.32200:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,440I'm one of those people.32300:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,320I'm one of those people.32400:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,800I think it juxtaposes to the lab-grown stuff, doesn't it?32500:24:01,800 --> 00:24:08,200I'm consuming organ meat from cows that were raised grass-fed and grass-finished within32600:24:08,200 --> 00:24:13,600New Zealand, and then those organs are freeze-dried and put in a capsule form and then shipped32700:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,720to me.32800:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,000That's a normal process.32900:24:17,000 --> 00:24:24,280This lab-grown stuff, I don't understand how I'm supposed to have a connection with anyone.33000:24:24,280 --> 00:24:29,440The only way that you can really have a connection with the lab-grown meat is if you know the33100:24:29,440 --> 00:24:36,000CEO, or if you know who's growing the thing in the tube.33200:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,200I got a couple clips here of... Just listen to these narratives.33300:24:41,200 --> 00:24:49,600Listen to the narrative that the CEO of one of the newest lab-grown meat startups, it's33400:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,660called Upside.33500:24:51,660 --> 00:24:57,320This guy is talking about... He's really describing the narrative around humans and33600:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,760meat.33700:24:59,760 --> 00:25:06,640It blows my mind because it's radically different, not in an emotional way, but just in a logical33800:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,520and evolutionary way.33900:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,600I'm Uma Valeri.34000:25:09,600 --> 00:25:15,120I am the co-founder and CEO of Upside Foods, a cultivated meat company based out of California.34100:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,280I was training to be a cardiologist.34200:25:17,280 --> 00:25:22,800During that time, I was exposed to working with stem cells, which are these magical cells34300:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,480in our human body that can become anything.34400:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,520So I was taking stem cells and injecting them into patients' hearts to regrow the heart34500:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,880muscle when they had a heart attack or a cardiac arrest.34600:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,340And I started thinking, what if we can do the same thing with meat?34700:25:34,340 --> 00:25:39,180If I take high-quality animal cells and give them high-quality feed and food, they can34800:25:39,180 --> 00:25:40,320grow into meat.34900:25:40,320 --> 00:25:45,160Our relationship with meat is complicated, but if you step back globally, our relationship35000:25:45,160 --> 00:25:52,120with meat has always been about love for an enormously exquisitely tasty product and not35100:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,520wanting to know how it comes to the table.35200:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,720Whoops.35300:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,420That's insane, right?35400:25:59,420 --> 00:26:00,420That is nuts.35500:26:00,420 --> 00:26:01,420Let me go back to that real quick.35600:26:01,420 --> 00:26:03,040What did you say right here?35700:26:03,040 --> 00:26:08,840Our relationship with meat has always been about love for an enormously exquisitely tasty35800:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,200product and not wanting to know how it comes to the table.35900:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,360Our entire relationship is just wanting to eat delicious meat and not wanting to know36000:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,480how it got there.36100:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,160That doesn't even align with history.36200:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,600That does not align with history.36300:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,520That doesn't make any freaking sense.36400:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,480I don't understand how that can be the narrative for lab-grown meat.36500:26:29,480 --> 00:26:36,680And then I'm also supposed to think that the Indians in the 1800s were committing extinction36600:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,320against the bison, you know?36700:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,520Even though they're eating bison, even though people are eating bison, people are killing36800:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,040bison with spears, you know?36900:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,360How can that narrative compute?37000:26:49,360 --> 00:26:50,680I don't understand.37100:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,520That's incredible to me.37200:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,520I saw this clip.37300:26:53,520 --> 00:26:59,360That was a clip from this PBS thing that was published 12 days ago on YouTube.37400:26:59,360 --> 00:27:04,680They got this channel called Be Smart, which is pretentious, but it has like 4 million37500:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,680subs.37600:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,680It's PBS.37700:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,600And I just don't trust that narrative, dude.37800:27:10,600 --> 00:27:18,320How can you say that we've only wanted to eat it and not know anything about it?37900:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,640Why do you want people to not think about something?38000:27:23,640 --> 00:27:34,600Why is there a company that is assuming a historical context of people not being curious?38100:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,280I don't like that, dude.38200:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,240That is so...38300:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,600Clearly that's just for the business.38400:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,040It's clearly just a positive spin for the business.38500:27:45,040 --> 00:27:50,280But I don't know what global thing this is connected to.38600:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,200They're just trying to outsource nature.38700:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,560That's my narrative against this thing.38800:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,120I don't want to outsource nature.38900:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,480They talk about things about protecting the environment.39000:28:03,480 --> 00:28:09,400Even in the same video, they talk about how we're trying to dig ourselves out of a hole39100:28:09,400 --> 00:28:15,040that we dug, which is about the whole environmental thing with cow farts and all this stuff and39200:28:15,040 --> 00:28:21,880how the production of meat has skyrocketed along with the population growth.39300:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,360And the nuance there is like, yeah, dude, no one likes the factory farms.39400:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,800That's why we need to eat more local.39500:28:28,800 --> 00:28:34,720The answer to getting rid of factory farms is eating more local, having more of a connection39600:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,200with a rancher around you, with some sort of...39700:28:38,200 --> 00:28:44,240Having some sort of a network of animal foods that you have direct access to.39800:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,180It's not about the grocery store.39900:28:46,180 --> 00:28:49,140It's about having friends that have chickens.40000:28:49,140 --> 00:28:51,080It's about knowing the butcher.40100:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,380It's about knowing where to get the best meat.40200:28:53,380 --> 00:28:58,120It's about looking for the regenerative ranching practices.40300:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,360The regenerative ranching is when there's practices of raising animals that is good40400:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,960for the soil.40500:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,440It's incredible to hear these narratives of like, they want to protect nature so they're40600:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,240going to try to clone it.40700:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,280What?40800:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,160How about we just be aligned with it?40900:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,960I got one more clip of the CEO talking about like just the long-term situation of what41000:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,920he sees lab-grown meat for.41100:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,620The conventional products that are on the market that are produced with animal agriculture41200:29:27,620 --> 00:29:29,600have a definite role to play.41300:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,080The plant-based meat alternatives have a definite role to play.41400:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,720And cultivated meat, which we are growing, has a definite role to play.41500:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,560And increasingly, as we go into the next five to 15 to 20 to 50 years, I believe that cultivated41600:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,920meat will have a bigger and a bigger role to play.41700:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,600But it's going to take time for transformative change because if it was simple to do, we41800:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,280would have done it already.41900:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,960But it's not simple to do because in the early stages, there's no roadmap, there's no blueprint.42000:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,320We've got to figure out a lot of these things and bring it together.42100:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,680And if you're talking about the future, let's say kids, grandkids, great grandkids, and42200:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,440let's say if you are a person who believes in rebirth, the future version of yourself42300:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,920will get really annoyed for not pursuing these choices earlier than we did.42400:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,640They'd be very happy we ultimately made the shift.42500:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,280But I think they will watch for a period in history with horror.42600:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,760Can we just roll it back real quick?42700:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,120What are you... do you hear that music cue when he's talking about rebirth?42800:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,960I'm going to the future, let's say kids, grandkids, great grandkids.42900:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,680And let's say if you are a person who believes in rebirth, the future version of yourself43000:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,720will get really annoyed for not pursuing these choices earlier than we did.43100:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,940They'd be very happy we ultimately made the shift.43200:30:40,940 --> 00:30:41,940But I think they were...43300:30:41,940 --> 00:30:43,240Oh yeah, and then he's talking about our ancestors.43400:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,560They're going to be annoyed with us.43500:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,560These choices earlier...43600:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,560Hang on.43700:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,880...self will get really annoyed for not pursuing these choices earlier than...43800:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,360They'll get really annoyed.43900:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,280Our people will get really annoyed.44000:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,600Our... the future people and our families will get really annoyed that we did not try44100:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,360to grow meat in a vac.44200:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,760Like what are you saying, dude?44300:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,960This narrative is not strong.44400:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,880This is a not strong narrative.44500:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,800In the same video, the guy who's like hosting it, he actually gets to taste the lab-grown44600:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,560chicken because that's all they can do right now.44700:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,040They're just doing lab-grown chicken.44800:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,160He says it tastes like chicken, which is fine.44900:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,160That's great.45000:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,820Like it is chicken cells.45100:31:21,820 --> 00:31:25,500They take the cells and then they process it a certain way.45200:31:25,500 --> 00:31:32,400But how can you say that that's good for society when there's a company that now has...45300:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,400And this is true.45400:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,840This is what all the companies are doing.45500:31:34,840 --> 00:31:41,080Any company that's doing a plant-based or a lab-grown meat, they are looking for patents.45600:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,720They are looking for intellectual property.45700:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,480That's what these companies...45800:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,520That's all companies really have.45900:31:48,520 --> 00:31:54,840If there's an AI company, that's their proprietary technology.46000:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120Any company, they have patents on their stuff.46100:31:57,120 --> 00:32:03,560They have patents on their assets and on their processes.46200:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,840I do not agree with putting a patent on creating meat.46300:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,760I don't want there to be some company war.46400:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,040There already is.46500:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,520There's already a company war on what the best meat is.46600:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,120Even now, it's morphing into a cultured war.46700:32:21,120 --> 00:32:28,120It's morphing into this intellectual property around cells war.46800:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,400Who has the best cells?46900:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,400This is nuts, dude.47000:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,400I'm against it.47100:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,920I'm against it.47200:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,800And I want to continue to shake people's hands.47300:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,760It's that fucking simple, people.47400:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,960I shouldn't curse from emotion, right?47500:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,160I believe the majority of people on earth just agree with that.47600:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,440I'm like, yeah, we should have a more personal connection.47700:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,440That makes sense.47800:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,360That makes sense, man.47900:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,280It doesn't take a lot either.48000:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,600But it is a personal choice.48100:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,400It is a deep choice.48200:33:06,400 --> 00:33:13,300Because the choices that I'm performing, the choices that I'm choosing, they're not my48300:33:13,300 --> 00:33:14,760father's choices.48400:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,480They're not my mother's choices.48500:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,120They're not my sister's choices.48600:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,360They're definitely not my nephew's choices.48700:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,320Wyatt had a Snickers this morning.48800:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,960He wakes up and he's like, can I have this chocolate?48900:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,560And I was like, no.49000:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,520And then he just took it, ripped it open, and ate it.49100:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,320I'm like, oh my god, thanks.49200:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,320OK, Wyatt.49300:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,520Whatever, Wyatt.49400:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,920It's a super difficult choice, man.49500:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,160But you just got to lean into it.49600:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,920You need to lean into it, man.49700:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,560If you open your heart up to these organs, if you open your heart up to a more personal49800:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,000connection, maybe your life will get a little better.49900:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,440What happens when you open your heart up?50000:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,960Because that's definitely one reason why I can see young people not wanting to eat meat,50100:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,060because they have this moral stance on the factory farms.50200:34:07,060 --> 00:34:11,960But then if a young person most likely has anxiety, most likely has some sort of social50300:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,960awkwardness.50400:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,640A lot of people do.50500:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,480A lot of people my age and younger do.50600:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,160If I were to tell them, you should just shake a person's hand.50700:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,920You should try to strike up a conversation with the butcher.50800:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,600That's hard for them, too, man.50900:34:28,600 --> 00:34:35,760So there's real people with a real perspective that are stuck between a moral thing that51000:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,760I agree with, not wanting to engage with factory farming, but also something that I sympathize51100:34:40,760 --> 00:34:46,040with and not being able, not knowing how to have a conversation with someone.51200:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,200And you just got to practice.51300:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,520We need to practice talking to each other more.51400:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,380That's why I think podcasting is so important, because you can actually hear people discuss51500:34:58,380 --> 00:35:00,260things through.51600:35:00,260 --> 00:35:02,120You can hear when someone is wrong.51700:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,640You can hear when someone is honest about their mistake.51800:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,880You can hear when someone is coming from a true place and speaking from the heart.51900:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,920And you can also hear when they're just reciting their book, when they're just going through52000:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,300the bullet points.52100:35:15,300 --> 00:35:16,640You can hear these things.52200:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,760It doesn't take long to figure out where the person is coming from.52300:35:21,760 --> 00:35:28,120Are they just trying to sell something or are they trying to express themselves?52400:35:28,120 --> 00:35:35,640We as a society, a part of America Plus is to be better, is to lean into that growth52500:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,960mindset.52600:35:37,960 --> 00:35:44,200To lean into the idea that this thing that might feel difficult is actually helping me.52700:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,760This thing that feels like I'm overextending myself in terms of trying to have a conversation52800:35:48,760 --> 00:35:54,440or spending a little bit more money on a grass-fed meat.52900:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,440I need to lean into that and say, this is actually helping my body.53000:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,680This is helping my life.53100:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,860Because this is helping my body, this is helping my life.53200:36:03,860 --> 00:36:06,340And that's why I should do it.53300:36:06,340 --> 00:36:08,840So that's the real narrative, man.53400:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,280Try to be aligned with the cycles.53500:36:11,280 --> 00:36:17,720Try to be aligned with the cycles of nature and put your money where the best products53600:36:17,720 --> 00:36:20,520are.53700:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,520That's for real, dude.53800:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,520That is for realsies.53900:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,000What's also for realsies is the support for America Plus, folks.54000:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,640We are now heading into the boosts.54100:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,640Ladies and gentlemen, America Plus is a value for value show.54200:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,160What that means is I do my damn best here to make the best show, to make the best content.54300:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,640I'm trying to have good conversations.54400:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,280Creating healthy narratives, trying to identify unhealthy narratives.54500:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,440And I get better at it each and every week.54600:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,720And I'm growing a community here.54700:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,800This podcast is super long-term.54800:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,200I'm doing this for 20 plus years.54900:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,640You're going to see me grow into an incredible director, producer, an incredible filmmaker,55000:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,520documentarian, whatever.55100:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,000I am growing into myself.55200:37:03,000 --> 00:37:09,720I am growing into the best version of Cole McCormick telling stories and talking about55300:37:09,720 --> 00:37:12,560whatever I want to talk about.55400:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,560And you're part of the community right now.55500:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,500And I encourage you to be a part of this community.55600:37:17,500 --> 00:37:21,960We got a couple people supporting me from last week's episode.55700:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,960Last week was number 77.55800:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,000It was called Cosmoerotic.55900:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000Cosmoerotic.56000:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,960Talked about some spiritual stuff.56100:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,280Talked about the spiritual concept of Cosmoerotic humanism.56200:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,680Talked about Aubrey Marcus and his mentor, one of his spiritual mentors, Mark Gaffney.56300:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,080Talking about this new humanity, this pulling.56400:37:46,080 --> 00:37:53,320We were pulling from every religion and science and trying to make our own vibe.56500:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,880And now we got these people who are supporting me from the lowest to the highest.56600:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,880I want to start off.56700:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,920We got a bunch of different boosts from Joel W. First off.56800:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,160So shout out to Joel W. What do we got here?56900:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,160So the first thing.57000:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,480He sends in a few satchel of Richards.57100:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,960One thousand one hundred and eleven.57200:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,840Thanks Joel.57300:38:11,840 --> 00:38:19,360The first thing that Joel wants to say from last week is no sweat and no hair.57400:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,000Sounds like you have a reptilian overlord at work.57500:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,000Yeah dude.57600:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,000First of all.57700:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000Boost me bitch.57800:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,000Thank you Joel.57900:38:26,000 --> 00:38:32,360That's a reference to my manager telling me that I smell last week and then proceeding58000:38:32,360 --> 00:38:39,240to make self-deprecating jokes that he doesn't sweat and he doesn't have hair.58100:38:39,240 --> 00:38:42,960I don't know why the hell you would tell me that after you say I smell but whatever.58200:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,080Joel thanks for saying that.58300:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,200I think he's a lizard too.58400:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,200The next one from Joel.58500:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,640Another satchel of Richards.58600:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,640He says.58700:38:49,640 --> 00:38:57,160I've got to admit I have an inherent distrust in anyone who uses the term open society being58800:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,800that George Soros founded the Open Society Foundation.58900:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,080Well that's something that I agree with you.59000:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,880Last week there was a few clips where there was they were talking about something that59100:39:07,880 --> 00:39:13,960they would describe as an open society and I don't have a firm vision on that.59200:39:13,960 --> 00:39:19,320You know I don't have a firm path on what that looks like from their perspective.59300:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,920But if I were to give them the benefit of the doubt because that podcast for one is59400:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,840absolutely against George Soros.59500:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,040They're not a part of the mainstream narrative.59600:39:30,040 --> 00:39:36,800You know Aubrey Marcus definitely didn't get the COVID-19 vaccine.59700:39:36,800 --> 00:39:42,680I'm able to give more of a positive undertone to that term.59800:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,280I'm more willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and maybe there's it's an open59900:39:46,280 --> 00:39:53,760society of openness of belief of spirit you know and openness of spirit you know.60000:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,160Can that change the world?60100:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,120Can that can that type of a narrative change our systems?60200:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,360You know I don't know Joel but it sounds nice.60300:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,880Then another one another satchel of Richards from.60400:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,240Wait hang on did I do that?60500:40:07,240 --> 00:40:09,640Booster whatever.60600:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,240Satchel of Richards almost forgot Joel W. almost forgot watched CODA.60700:40:14,240 --> 00:40:20,400Okay so he watched the re-edit of Godfather Part 3 the CODA.60800:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,440I really like the change of the closing scene.60900:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,720Hits harder showing Michael having to live with all the guilt.61000:40:27,720 --> 00:40:28,720Yes dude.61100:40:28,720 --> 00:40:29,720I agree.61200:40:29,720 --> 00:40:32,960Basically you put Bitcoin with anything and all of a sudden that is more efficient.61300:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,680I agree with that 100%.61400:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,720You know the Godfather is clearly just one of the best trilogies but for the man himself61500:40:40,720 --> 00:40:50,280to the American cinematic master Francis Ford Coppola to re-edit one of his movies I think61600:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,280it's brilliant.61700:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,080I think it's smart too Joel.61800:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,120And then we got one from the mere mortals podcast.61900:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,360What up Kyron down from down under.62000:41:00,360 --> 00:41:06,240My guy he sends in a row of ducks 2222 sats.62100:41:06,240 --> 00:41:10,280He says you're a legend Cole and I appreciate you greatly.62200:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,920I love you Joel.62300:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,920I love you.62400:41:13,920 --> 00:41:20,800Oh wait did I say Joel Kyron Kyron I'm sorry Kyron Kyron let me do another one for you62500:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,800Kyron.62600:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,800Ameri-62700:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,560Basically you put Bitcoin with anything and all of a sudden that is more efficient.62800:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,600I love you Kyron.62900:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,680I appreciate you greatly Kyron.63000:41:30,680 --> 00:41:36,080And then we got the last boo- oh a quick shout out to Shannon P. my girlfriend boosted me63100:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,720with 333 sats.63200:41:37,720 --> 00:41:38,720Thank you Shannon.63300:41:38,720 --> 00:41:44,880And then we got the last one is from Joel W as well.63400:41:44,880 --> 00:41:53,200He sends in the magic boost the magic number 3333 sats.63500:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,640He says and have a magic number boost.63600:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,640Thank you.63700:41:57,640 --> 00:42:04,040Go to value for value dot info for more info then download the fountain dot FM app.63800:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,760It's the best way to support the show.63900:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,840Value for value dot info is the place where you want to get more of a deeper broader understanding64000:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,120of this of this thing that I'm engaging in.64100:42:14,120 --> 00:42:23,040Value for value is really just about me building a community around valuable information that64200:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,240is hopefully entertaining as well but mainly I want it to be informational inspiring you64300:42:28,240 --> 00:42:32,880know I I want there to be something tangible you know we're trying to make better systems64400:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,040here.64500:42:34,040 --> 00:42:41,160Better systems require tangible solutions so you know every week is a is a continual64600:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,880conversation of trying to do those things and you know value for value is the way you64700:42:45,880 --> 00:42:52,200know you have the opportunity to show me how how how much value you have for the show like64800:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,680what is this show worth to you.64900:42:55,680 --> 00:43:03,760Is it worth the 45 50 minutes is it worth a milkshake is it worth a pizza is it worth65000:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,080some of your talents you know is it worth helping me out on one of my projects.65100:43:07,080 --> 00:43:12,840I do want to talk about one of my projects coming up soon.65200:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,560Does it require you to give any money does it require you to give any time you know value65300:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,960for value is time talent and treasure and the treasure I prefer to be given to me through65400:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,560through fountain through bitcoin.65500:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,720I really prefer bitcoin here.65600:43:27,720 --> 00:43:32,760Send me some send me some support dude like help me out like for real like be a part of65700:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,440this community be a part of this growing community.65800:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,560This is something that's that's this is a real brand that I'm putting all of my energy65900:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,820in so you're going to see something big.66000:43:43,820 --> 00:43:49,160This is it's a little seed right now but it's going to be big.66100:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,160Yeah.66200:43:52,160 --> 00:43:58,000What do we got what else we got here those are those are all the boost those are all66300:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,160the value for value stuff.66400:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,480My projects let me go to my photos real quick.66500:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,280What do I got for my projects.66600:44:05,280 --> 00:44:11,120I'm still working on magic mushroom fun time.66700:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,380I'm so sorry I don't I thought I had something to share with you but I sort of don't.66800:44:15,380 --> 00:44:21,880It was 4th of July here in America and I did take some inspiration from the fireworks to66900:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,040put in my animated short.67000:44:24,040 --> 00:44:30,240You know when it comes to the Fantasia animated short I'm doing you know I'm still trying67100:44:30,240 --> 00:44:36,680to figure out how to make it pop you know I don't want it to just be like slow moving67200:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,280like slow moving squiggles on the screen you know because when I say Fantasia you know67300:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,200I want there to be like psychedelic shapes floating around I want there to be you know67400:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,360what looks like water flowing I want there to what looks like electricity spiking through67500:44:51,360 --> 00:44:58,280the entire the entire screen and it's when you look at fireworks you know there's something67600:44:58,280 --> 00:45:03,800so beautiful about a firework you know it's it's this bomb in the air it's this like bright67700:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,880thing and just pretty man like just pretty so I'm definitely taking inspiration from67800:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,560that I had a really good 4th of July.67900:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,800You know when it comes to my creativity stuff I was able to share my vision with a couple68000:45:17,800 --> 00:45:23,240people last night with a couple men I should say I've known these men since I was a very68100:45:23,240 --> 00:45:24,520young child.68200:45:24,520 --> 00:45:31,480These are my father's friends they're all similar age you know my dad's age and older68300:45:31,480 --> 00:45:37,280and I was able to tell them about what I'm doing with the podcast and Bitcoin and not68400:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,640so much value for value but I was I did mention my my short film because you know they've68500:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,400always known that I've had this insane passion for movies and stories and so every time when68600:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,260I see anyone out here in Arizona they're like hey man like are you still like going after68700:45:51,260 --> 00:45:55,300movies like are you still doing that and I'm like yeah like I'm doing this like I'm I'm68800:45:55,300 --> 00:46:00,520able to give them a plan and when I was sharing with these gentlemen my idea you know they68900:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,920don't know about they don't know everything about Bitcoin you know they really he's one69000:46:04,920 --> 00:46:11,840guy his name is Chad he's a financial advisor right and he goes I like I'm deep into talking69100:46:11,840 --> 00:46:17,880about Bitcoin and 21 million and Satoshi's and he's like Cole to be honest you're speaking69200:46:17,880 --> 00:46:27,760Chinese like okay okay but like you understand the concept right he's like yes I do so like69300:46:27,760 --> 00:46:35,200they were able to to to grasp my vision but they couldn't really see it but they understood69400:46:35,200 --> 00:46:41,520the passion they saw the passion and it's not a scam you know Bitcoin's not a scam and69500:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,600that's something that I think is is turning the corner you know so many people might be69600:46:45,600 --> 00:46:51,940afraid of it because it can go down so fast but then when when these guys saw the fountain69700:46:51,940 --> 00:46:57,920app like of me showing them like the boost and what I can do and what people can do just69800:46:57,920 --> 00:47:03,640peer-to-peer just sending those sending that value without a company sending that value69900:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,960without a patreon or without a youtube or without a visa you know that's that's a huge70000:47:07,960 --> 00:47:16,480innovation and the other guy his name is Dave Dave even said one of the things that that70100:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,760that he's not into one thing that doesn't excite him about Bitcoin is that everyone70200:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,480who's everyone who makes money from it they sell it back into dollars so what that means70300:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,400is like the American system is important like the financial system is important and I was70400:47:30,400 --> 00:47:37,260like yeah absolutely but when you engage in different economies like podcasting and meet70500:47:37,260 --> 00:47:44,000podcasting and beef you can really grow a parallel economy and like right there he sort70600:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,560of like reiterated what I said because that's how like he learns you know he's one of those70700:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,480guys he's one of those like he trades stocks and he likes to like he like he's always talking70800:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,160like that he's like yeah sure so so when you're like engaging with that and you're not selling70900:47:56,160 --> 00:48:01,560it and when you're doing it peer-to-peer like wow that that does actually change everything71000:48:01,560 --> 00:48:06,640he just said that casually like wow that that really does change everything and I was like71100:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,880yeah it does it does and that's my plan and I'm building a community around it I'm fundraising71200:48:12,880 --> 00:48:18,960for my movies with this podcast and with value for value and it is how my name it is how71300:48:18,960 --> 00:48:26,320my artistic name will be etched into the Twitter sphere like it's just some like that's just71400:48:26,320 --> 00:48:34,240a plan so I invite you to engage with it engage with a better system of creating my own world71500:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,800folks and that's America plus bitch stay free