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In this episode of AMERICAPLUS, host Cole McCormick dives into the recent controversies surrounding Elon Musk and former President Donald Trump. The discussion kicks off with Elon's abrupt departure from a government role and his subsequent social media outburst, where he criticized Trump's economic policies and made bold claims about Trump's alleged connections to Jeffrey Epstein. Cole explores the implications of Elon's actions, suggesting they reveal a deeper spiritual struggle and a need for inner peace. The conversation touches on the broader themes of ego, power dynamics, and the challenges of navigating government inefficiencies, with a particular focus on the potential benefits of Doge and the economic future of America.

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Okay. So Elon had a crash out.   What's up, everyone? It's America Plus. I'm your host, Cole McCormick. It's another week. Another episode, folks. What's going on? It's Sunday, June 8. '12 '12 in the PM. What's going on? Little palindrome,   episode.   Having a great time, folks. Well, happy to be here. Welcome to another beautiful week of America Plus, folks.   I'm coming to you in good moods, man. I'm about to see Mission Impossible again again in a little bit. So we are going live a little bit earlier than usual.   So that's pretty cool. Pretty chill.  

I have okay. So we need to talk about this. Right? We're just gonna jump in.   We're gonna talk about what happened this week with Elon and Trump, dude. I got a whole thing to say about   how this is connected to Trump's bill, big, beautiful big, beautiful bill.   And, you know, just the whole Doge conversation. What is really going on? I'm not gonna try to   echo   any talking points that I've seen online before,   because I think this all leads to something that is more spiritual,   that not a lot of other folks are really paying attention to. So pretty much, like, Elon needs to find inner peace. Right? But before I get into that before I get into that, we need to   establish what happened, dude.  

This past week so in   in a span of one week,   Elon completed his   special   government employee   discount situation. Like, he was able to be   in some government employee for a little bit for, like, a one hundred and thirty days.   And   he ended that. He walked away. And, like, as soon as he walked away from that,   he just, dude, he just started having, like, a little, like, tism,   like, a some little autistic temper tantrum, dude. That's how I interpret this thing.   He Elon just started going off the rails about   Trump's,   Trump's economic bill, the big, beautiful bill,   how it's gonna, like, increase spending. It's gonna add to the national debt.  

America's gonna go bankrupt.   And,   he's not happy about that. And then he starts talking about how Trump he had this insane Elon had this insane tweet where Trump is on the Epstein list, and he's in the Epstein files, and that's why Trump hasn't released the Epstein files yet.   So he pretty much just called Trump a pedophile,   and that's insane.   And he's been posting about all these just all these memes and retweeting all these posts about how   Trump isn't doing well for the country. He, like, all the people   all the congresspeople who are not supporting,   Doge is bad and how they're just ruining America,   which I mean, I don't disagree   with that, you know, because I because I like Doge.  

But, Elon was just going off the rails, just becoming the villain. Just a real heel turn,   which is very interesting.   And,   while I'm not steeped into the, like,   specifics of everything going on, you know, I do have a point of view.   First of all,   Elon not enjoying Trump's big beautiful bill is a little ridiculous because it's not even passed yet. You know, they're still, like, changing the specifics about it.   And I personally don't think it's that big of a deal, dude. Like, can we just, like, like, this is, like, the first bill that he's actually passing. So maybe we should just allow   the bill   to, like, breathe a little bit. Maybe we should discuss it a little bit more. Trump, I'm sorry. Elon just coming out against it right away   is a bit suspicious to me because   it seems like Elon wanted something   in the bill,   or he wanted the bill to do something more that it wasn't doing. Okay?  

And the fact that   it wasn't doing that, maybe that implies that Trump wasn't willing to give Elon that. You know, my whole thing, you know, I think this is like   exposing   Elon's ego. You know? This is really just, like, just what's happening. This isn't a big deal. This isn't, like, this isn't a national security risk, but this is something to be said about how   humans,   egos are on full display right now in this era. We are able to see the president's full ego and character. We're able to see   okay. So this is interesting. So Milo had, like, Milo u Eulanopoulos, Milo on Twitter. He had the he had the best post.   He was like, Elon is the richest   man on Earth. Trump is the most powerful man on Earth, and Elon is finding that out right now. I thought that was a really good take because,   Trump being the most powerful man on Earth, which is just a fact,   we're e we're able to see his ego and his character at large.  

Elon is figuring out that when you're on this type of national stage, which is different   from where he has been in decades past, you know, he's been famous. He's been on television.   You know? But to this degree, to have to seek this type of influence   that Elon is seeking, this is a different game.   And Elon can't just get his way   every time,   which I think is a pattern in Elon's life. I think Elon has sought to get his way in   pretty much every situation.   And so,   you know, e Elon's ego being exposed   is something to to just point to just like it it's just silly. Like, this is just Elon's ego, and it's silly.   That's my cat. Hey, Blue. Hey, Blue. Could you stop doing that, Blue?  

Holy crap, dude. Can you stop fighting the bugs right now, dude, behind the fridge?   If you hear any background noise, that's that that's Blue.   When it comes to the to Doge so Doge seems to be on edge when it comes to,   like, does the government really like Doge? Does anyone in the government want Doge? No.   The only people in the government who want Doge   are pretty much the people who are not gonna be there for a long time, and who actually want the government to be efficient.   The people who don't want the government to be efficient are the people who thrive   on the inefficiency. You know? I think that's a that's a general fact.  

I'm excited for Doge. I want Doge to be codified, codified. Is that what it means?   If Doge were legitimate   law, if Doge if there was like a,   a standard, like, to   a government standard for every department to actually   be efficient and to have standards   of efficiency,   I think that would benefit America.   But DOS is on edge within this big, beautiful bill.   Democrats don't want it. A lot of Republicans don't want it. The Uniparty. There's a lot of people in the Uniparty,   who don't want it. You know?   So I'm hoping that changes.   I've spoken positively about Doge, and I've spoken positively about Elon,   months back, right after the election, just, like, wanting   these things to, like, come to flourish. You know? And, you know, we're still in the early stages, I would say, on if it's working. People have criticized Doge for not finding a trillion dollars,   in wasteful spending.  

Is it possible to find a trillion dollars in a one hundred and thirty days?   Has anyone ever done that? Has anyone ever found a trillion dollars in under a year?   I think that's a funny standard.   Was he was Elon supposed to find   the trillion dollars in wasteful government spending within his tenure as a special government employee with the special discount or whatever he had,   I don't think that was the thing. I think those were supposed to be a thing for, like, over a year, and they were gonna take a year or so.   But it it it was always gonna be, like, before the,   what's it called? The midterms. It was always gonna be before the midterms. Like, Doge had to find a trillion dollars to get rid of before the midterms.  

And so we're not even a year like, we're barely a year away from that.   So there's still time. There's still time, guys.   So I'm not afraid of that.   I'm not too worried about that. I think there is a trillion dollars that can be cut from the budget.   But Elon's whole thing is,   talking about, like, the national debt and, like, America's gonna go bankrupt.   You know, I voted for Trump because I believe he wants the economics of America to be thriving.   Does anyone doubt that? I don't understand this narrative that Trump is gonna run   the economics of this country to the ground. I don't understand why he would do that. I don't understand how   that could be the intention of of anyone   in the,   administration.  

I think I I I think it's more clear that presidents past   have done specifically that. They have created laws that would run the economics   of America into the ground, you know, just like beginning with, like, Bill Clinton. And, like, this is the whole conversation about   outsourcing jobs and factories going under and Chinese companies buying American companies and manu and, like, there's, like, some Obama documentary. Like, Obama produced a documentary when I was in high school about, like, some   some Chinese company buying an American factory and, like, these two cultures combining.   But, like, it's not really helpful for America   because a whole other a whole other ass country owns the owns the company,   owns the workers,   which is ridiculous. So, like, Trump's whole thing is, like, bring   bring jobs back to the states, bring manufacturing back to the states.  

And   we need to there's this conversation of or I guess, like, it it's a little bit of hopium,   but it's actually, like, it's hopium that is actually, like, positive. It's not just, like, willy nilly. There's this idea   that we can outgrow   the national debt.   And so whatever   extra spending that this bill,   this big beautiful bill, adds to the national debt and adds to the government spending.   The situation   coming in with AI   changing   industries   and how America is gonna be leading could presumably be leading energy,   selling   energy to the rest of the world,   selling   what do you wanna call it? Selling AI to the world or selling I don't know. Like, somehow America's gonna own the AI or own the platform.  

Something like that. I don't fully understand that. Like but there's this narrative that America's gonna own AI and energy, and everyone's gonna make wanna make a deal with America.   And then you have, like, the whole, like, gold card,   situation where you have, like, all these billionaires and millionaires buying   all these   gold card   immigrant cards,   which, like, if you spend if if America   sells   10,000,000 gold cards, that's, like, $50,000,000,000,000   or something, whatever Trump said,   we could outgrow this problem. We can outgrow   the $36,000,000,000,000   debt problem, which was when I was a kid, when I was in high school, the debt was, like   what was it?  

I think it was, like, 30,000,000,000,000.   I I I think it was that.   I think it was, I think it was around the 30 or maybe it was 15. I don't even know. Maybe I should look that up right now.   National Debt. Yeah. Let's just do a little search. National   Debt 2015. That's when I graduated.   2015.   Oh, no. It was way yeah. It was pretty much half of it. When I was in high school, the national debt was 18,800,000,000,000.0.   And I remember be I remember sitting in, like, what is it? Economic   economics class, and my teacher was just like, so this is how much debt the the country has. And all of us kids are like, what? This is crazy. How are we gonna pay that off? What?   All these, like, 17 year olds are worried about the debt.  

And now it's twice that. And Trump is saying that we can get past this and we can grow out of it. That's certainly a good idea.   Will it happen? I don't know.   But Elon is certainly worried about that, which is good. He's like, it's good to be worried about about the national debt, you know, America.   You know, if any country should be thriving, it should be America.   That that's what I think here at America Plus.   But pretty much, dude, like,   I don't think this is, like, the most important issue. Okay?   Elon going crazy, Elon calling Trump a pedophile, which okay. Let's talk about that for a second. Elon literally said that Trump is on the Epstein files, and then he deleted it. He deleted that tweet.   Okay? Why would you say that? Why would you say that, Elon? Like, that's what points to, like that that that's the reason why I think this is ego. It's a little temper tantrum. Because, like, Elon's just, like, throwing out bullshit.  

Like, when you're upset about, like, nothing or when you're upset about   how you didn't get your own way, you just start screaming random shit. You know what I mean?   Like a little kid. And I think this and I'm not trying to, like, belittle him, but I think this is pointing towards, like, his biological   autism. I think there's just emotions   that he hasn't fully regulated yet.   And this points to   what I've been personally doing,   a practice of inner peace.   Okay? This is, like, what all this is moving towards. Okay?   Elon needs to practice   inner peace. He tried going after Trump.  

He tried doing the heel turn, and Trump's reaction   has been quiet.   You know, Trump hasn't really said anything about Elon.   I think I saw some fake posts about   mediocre Musk or something. I I'm not sure if that was real or not. But,   Trump's whole   reaction to this has been very calm. You know, Trump has had a whole life. How old is he? He's, like, 70?   He's had, like, seventy years of people turning his back on him. You know, he's been screwed over many, many times before.   You know, Trump used to have friends, you know. 2016   is like ground zero for all of Trump's friends leaving him,   or at least most of them   and starting to talk shit about him in the media. So Trump's not afraid of someone,   just, like, doing a heel turn and saying that he's a bad person because it's happened before.  

And so I'm a bit confused why Elon thought that that would, like,   work   or   help.   Like, seriously, like, I don't see any real thought process during this. Along with all this, when it comes to the conversation of   Epstein   and Trump being on the Epstein files,   that's a serious claim, dude.   If you had that information now and and this is something that I I have seen people talk about. If you have this information   that the person you're working with, the president,   is   affiliated   and had done   things within the pedophilia   realm,   why would the hell would you be working with him?  

If you know that Trump abused kids, why would you be working with him? Why would you bring your kid around him? Why would you do anything affiliated with him if you had this information?   Because you left on good terms,   allegedly. You left when, like, the contract was up.   And so it's just it it's   that is an inconsistency   in logic   and morals   that I find to be really suspicious of Elon,   which just points to just, you know, him not having inner peace, him not practicing inner peace, him not enjoying how he hasn't gotten his way within the government. He did he it seems like he thought that the government would just bend to his will if he just did what he usually does,   with all of his other companies. You know? The All In podcast, who loves to suck Elon's dick. Like,   oh my god, Elon. I'm an investor in Tesla.  

I'm chasing Galaganas.   Like, they love talking about how Elon just, like, changes the whole realm.   He fires 80% of people at Twitter and turns it into x, and then he's gonna transform it into a profitable company. It's gonna be really,   really investable. It's gonna be really incredible.   And he was gonna do the same thing with the government.   First of all, Elon's not in charge of the fucking government. Doge is not in charge of the government. Doge   is a is about finances.   Doge is about finding where we can create more efficiency   within the government.  

Elon's not in charge of that. The CEO of America   is the president.   The president wants things to be more efficient, but it's the president's job   to figure out how to move forward, how to get more money, how to make sure the citizens are thriving.   Okay? It's not that's not Elon's   responsibility. And Elon,   I think he's there's like a tug and pull here where, like, he's acting like he's in charge. He's doing things that he has done in the past when he was in charge, but he's not getting his way as if he was.   And he's having a little temper tantrum   and this is just his ego showing.  

And I pray for Elon.   I pray for Trump. I want this relationship to be good.   I want this relationship to be thriving   because you have the richest man and the most powerful man. It's better for those two people to be friends. It's better for those two people to to be on the same mission of helping America   than to be at odds   at each   other while they both individually   seek   America to be better? Like, it it really doesn't make any sense.   Elon needs to do jujitsu. Elon needs to know how to, like, go with the flow. Elon needs to know how to, like if something isn't going his way, he needs to learn how to use that momentum   to his advantage.  

You know? Like, he's not one of those guys. You know? He's always been, like, a brute force. He's gonna run at the wall, and he's gonna, like, try to figure out how to rebuild the wall. You know what I mean? He's gonna try to re figure out how to, like, rebuild   the hammer so you can destroy the wall more efficiently.   But this is a wall,   as in, like, the government. This is a wall that cannot be destroyed   in a matter of months, dude.   The way I see it, I see Trump is trying to, like, reenergize   and reorganize   and revitalize   America.  

And because he was president before,   he knows the system,   and he has an instinct as to how he can use the system   to his advantage.   This is my perspective. I could be wrong.   But that's why I trust Trump in this leadership position.   It seems like Elon is a bit arrogant and ignorant to how the government has been functioning. When Elon was on Joe Rogan,   he was saying how, like, just how he's been blown away. You know, everyone on the Doge team has been blown away   at how inefficient the government is, and how terrible   the tracking of finances are, and how terrible the,   like, I guess,   you know, usually within a company, you should have backstops and you should have, like, reporting   standards.  

And   these things are just not existent within the government. And that's why there's so much spending. That's why there's so much fraud. That's why   there's   so many bad things within within the government regarding money and personnel.   And Elon's been blown away by that. Trump has already known this.   You know? Trump has known this, and that's why you bring on Elon. It's like Elon is going through Trump's first term. Elon is having his own Trump's first term.   And Elon thinks that he can do what he wants   and get his way and say what he wants and somehow people are gonna bend to his will. And that's not the way I see it.  

Because I think this is a more spiritual issue,   because I because I think Trump   has more inner peace than Elon, whether it be, like, a spiritual practice or not, Trump just like he doesn't care if you don't like him. You know, that's a sign of inner peace. If someone doesn't like you and you don't give a shit,   like, you're you might as well be the fucking Buddha.   Elon   does not have that,   practice yet. Elon does not have that stability   within his heart.   I think this is just a fact.   So I hope Elon finds a way to find inner peace.   You know, maybe this can get out to him, you know, and, like, just, like, show that. Like, you need to actually, like, work on   work on your messaging. Like,   you you you go so hard when you believe in something.  

And when it doesn't go your way, you then go so hard in the other direction within a reaction.   And that's   not the right way to go about things, dude.   This is not. So, Elon, I love you, man. I love you. I love Trump.   I love Kanye's tweet, Ye's tweet, when he was like, no, bros.   We love you both.   That was awesome.   Like, that was so real.   And I just I I want you guys to be friends, man.   I want you guys to be friends. I want America to be great again, and I want there to I want America plus to be legitimate.   I want America plus to be reality, man. Like, we're updating this whole thing. That's that's the mission we're updating.  

We're updating the country. We're updating ourselves   through innovation and spirituality,   spiritual optimism.   And so, I ask Elon   to   look at the spiritual side of things and to   change the way you are approaching   any sort of hardship in your life. Because clearly, it's not working out the way that you have been doing it.   Okay? You can't approach this government problem with how you've approached   your relationship   problems and your,   company problems. Like, there needs to be a different angle here.   Okay? And it might be a different like, a totally different path, you know? I'm suggesting the spiritual path, the the meditation path.   I know that sounds weird but,   you know, it's weird times.  

So maybe it might be helpful   to to to listen to a guided meditation   on inner peace and if and to choose to feel   peace and compassion within your heart. And maybe that can help you discern what is the correct way to move forward   if if you want a certain outcome.   Maybe if you were to practice,   knowing like   observing the emotions in your heart and   knowing   knowing why those emotions are there   maybe you wouldn't be so reactionary   with how things are going on in the government   You know? This is super important.   So and maybe I'm speaking way out of left field.   Maybe I'm just being stupid and   naive. You know? Because a lot of people think the spiritual side of things is naive,   but   our emotions are the fundamental   reality   of our   experience.  

The way you interpret hardship, the way you interpret,   truth   and lies,   you know,   that is a spiritual situation.   And for anyone who has gone through any type of trauma,   you know, for anyone who's ever gone through any sort of pain,   you know, you grow from that.   You know,   at least that's, like, the goal, you know. You grow from trauma. You grow from learning the truth that might be painful to to know.   But it's up to you to integrate this.   And so maybe it's time for Elon to integrate   what he has learned. Maybe it's time for Elon to integrate the truth, the hard truth that he has learned within the government, and   to   change his ways,   beginning with his heart. Because everything begins with your heart.  

You know, any movie, any fantasy,   any sort of journey that talks about, you know, listening to your heart, follow your heart, you know, these are not airy fairy,   like, stupid things that don't really exist.   You know? Listening to your heart is actually real.   That's a part of reality.   And if you were to do a practice   of   observing how you're feeling and choosing   to feel peace and compassion   and love,   and to use those emotions to move forward, to push your decision making,   to lead your decision making,   that would be more than beneficial   for Doge in America.  

And so that's just my 2¢, really. You know? That's just how I see see things.   You know, it's a relationship. We're all humans. And,   you know, Elon and Trump, I think they're gonna be okay. You know? I like seeing them at the UFC. You know, Trump went to UFC this past weekend, and,   it was sort of sad not seeing Elon there. I like it when the whole crew I like it when the whole MAGA crew's at UFC, man.   I like seeing my boys at the UFC, dude.   That's what I think.   What do you think about that, man? I wanna know what you think. Do you think this is a   important situation? Do you think this is a dumb situation?  

I really wanna know what what what the listener is thinking right now because this is, like, a valuable conversation to have. Do you think there's something to be said about Elon spirituality?   Does Elon need to develop inner peace? Will that do anything good   for the country and this situation?   I think so.   I think so. But I I really wanna know what you have to think because this is like a value for value exchange.   We're gonna go into the value for value section now, folks. America Plus is a value for value show.   Pretty much, if you're getting any value out of this conversation,   I just wanna know what you have to think.  

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